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First time she has sent me nude fotos of her novia. I'm going to take that as a good sign, jeje. They are both Paisa miniatures. Her novia on the right with the Cesarean-section scar has a 15 month old girl. One kid and one scar means her outlet tract still has not been stretched out by birthing babies, another good sign.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2626088]Ok, I am currently w a chica that works / worked at Gustos, at least until a week or two ago. She tells me. The rate that the girls must charge are. COP 300.000 / USD 100 per hour, double that for 2 hours. And its USD 300 for TLN. She says the prices are controlled by the cabal of experienced chicas that work there. If a girl charges less, she will be kicked out. Girls have to pay 30.000 entrance, same as anyone else; that's all the club makes from the girls. Plus drink sales too. But the girls need to pay 30.000 entrance, plus taxis there and back, plus a shlt load on clothes and make up so they can look presentable for mugs that frequent the place. So they are looking at 100.000 cost per night for themselves.
I used to know the girl well when she worked at Bananas in Sta Marta, and used to FK her for a 100.000, or 150.000 TLN. Its the same girl. Now she is the "GF"of a friend of mine. More evidence that a price does not dictate the quality of the girl.[/QUOTE]Gustos is a damn clip joint. Go down the block to Parque Lleras Bar and you will see similar quality for less, albeit there may be a few more hotter ones at Gustos. Not one of the girls in Gustos quoted us less than 150-200 us dollars and they never quote in pesos. I am fluent in Spanish and above average looking as well but they are all business there. To me, this is why Medellin is not the Holy Grail for mongering for freelancers at bars or discos. There are just not enough venues or one single great venue where prices are reasonable and quality is good. The Cocal bar in Jaco Beach, Habanos / Don Julios in Panama blow Gustos out of the water for quality, and selection. Girls can be had for 100-120 max in either of these venues while the better girls at Gustos want 150-200. I certainly did not see any 9s or 10s in Gustos so I don't see the justification for high prices. Many average girls in these places, while the hottest girls are online (FB, escort services, online etc.).
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2626112]how do the other girls know what the guys are paying a girl, how is it controlled.
[/QUOTE]They chat w each other, and clients tend to frequent the place for a few nights on the trot. So if a guy comes back claiming "girl X only charged me 200.000", they hear and learn what's going on.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2626112]Just a stupid question here, but how do the other girls know what the guys are paying a girl, how is it controlled.
If the club is only making the entrance fee and drink sales, who's monitoring and enforcing this as I find this hard to believe that the girls who work there would enforce this unless the club was involved.
Just sounds odd to me.[/QUOTE]They generally don't. If a girl goes for less than the "normal rate," she won't tell her friends what she charged. Some will even make up outrageous amounts they've received to make the other girls envious.
While there are guys who lie about what they pay, there are at least as high a % of girls who do the same.
I admit to not being a Gusto expert. I've only been twice in my life, and only once took a girl. But this principle is the case in virtually all freelancer type venues (not casas, termas, FKKs, etc where you pay a fixed price to "the house," not the girl).
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2625960]Been to Gustos close to a dozen times on several different trips. For most dudes, the guys are going to get quoted 150 USD for an hour and 200 USD for all night. You can talk them down and get lucky if you wait around for closing and maybe knock a few bucks off, but that's the general rate. The girls aren't there to fuck hot guys for fun, they would go to normal clubs for that. They are there to make money first and if they have fun along the way its a bonus. I did pull a 3 some out of there a year ago for around 600-700 mil and the one girl wanted to stay the night and I had to kick her out. My last trip I was quoted 200 USD for the night and the girl wouldn't budge and neither would I. I also approached a few girls and they didn't seem too interested so I definitely did not make an offer. Ended up taking a very decent girl out of the park for 300,000 and I know I should have haggled to 200,00 but I was in the moment having fun, my fault. I would be very surprised to hear a girl leaving gustos for 100,000. Maybe 200,000 but with the pesos so low right now that's less than 30 $, might as well be free at that point.
If anyone has stories of getting a cheap gustos girl for 200 mil or less, please share the tale and let us know it is possible for some.[/QUOTE]Can confirm it was $200 TLN in late 2019. Maybe they raised it to $300 this year.
[QUOTE=StudBucket;2626128]Gustos is a damn clip joint. Go down the block to Parque Lleras Bar and you will see similar quality for less, albeit there may be a few more hotter ones at Gustos. Not one of the girls in Gustos quoted us less than 150-200 us dollars and they never quote in pesos. I am fluent in Spanish and above average looking as well but they are all business there. To me, this is why Medellin is not the Holy Grail for mongering for freelancers at bars or discos. There are just not enough venues or one single great venue where prices are reasonable and quality is good. The Cocal bar in Jaco Beach, Habanos / Don Julios in Panama blow Gustos out of the water for quality, and selection. Girls can be had for 100-120 max in either of these venues while the better girls at Gustos want 150-200. I certainly did not see any 9s or 10s in Gustos so I don't see the justification for high prices. Many average girls in these places, while the hottest girls are online (FB, escort services, online etc.).[/QUOTE]I think the talent at gustos looks a lot better than what can be found at the Cocal bar in Jaco: Rates were $80-100 in 2017, it's 100-120 now? Damn inflation.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2626191]They chat w each other, and clients tend to frequent the place for a few nights on the trot. So if a guy comes back claiming "girl X only charged me 200.000", they hear and learn what's going on.[/QUOTE]This. Just like how mongers want to lock in 30 k fixed rates in el centro, the putas in gustos want to lock in fixed rates.
[QUOTE=Combo;2626194]They generally don't. If a girl goes for less than the "normal rate," she won't tell her friends what she charged. Some will even make up outrageous amounts they've received to make the other girls envious.
While there are guys who lie about what they pay, there are at least as high a % of girls who do the same.
I admit to not being a Gusto expert. I've only been twice in my life, and only once took a girl. But this principle is the case in virtually all freelancer type venues (not casas, termas, FKKs, etc where you pay a fixed price to "the house," not the girl).[/QUOTE]There were bars in Nana in BKK they all knew how much a girl was getting when she left with me, and that was less than everyone else was paying.
I would regularly take putas from the same few bars for the most part and they all knew what I would pay, never as much as everyone else was paying.
This monger never pays retail, jajajajajaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
Aka sticker price / sucker price.
I know Medellin's great for mongering and that'll bring me there, but is it realistic for an American to be able to get regular girls there too? If so, that may be keep there LOL.
[QUOTE=Combo;2626194]They generally don't. If a girl goes for less than the "normal rate," she won't tell her friends what she charged. Some will even make up outrageous amounts they've received to make the other girls envious.[/QUOTE]Excuse me, but how do you know that?
Yes, it's crazy. This craziness was caused by the gringos, mainly Americans, there who accepted to pay 1,000-4000 % of normal prices. That's why locals always say that gringos fuck up everything.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2625905]I agree that's fucking crazy. I've heard of Parque Lleras chicas charging 200 k to 300 k but 300 usd is just fucking nuts Idgaf if it's a gustos girl or not, Centro girls get me off for 30 k - 40 k COP. Maybe it's just my personal preference but I'd rather be fucking a bunch of Centro girls than to blow a bunch of money on a stuck up Poblado *****, that's for damn sure. And I've heard from various chicas that it's often the same centro bitches in Parque Lleras, they work centro in the afternoons and then go to Lleras like around 8 pm.[/QUOTE]
Yes, Gustos is a classic clip joint. The key clip join attributes are there: the majority of its clientele has little to no knowledge of market rates, it is in a location frequented by tourists, its price points are unique to a small group of other local clip joints.
[QUOTE=StudBucket;2626128]Gustos is a damn clip joint. Go down the block to Parque Lleras Bar and you will see similar quality for less, albeit there may be a few more hotter ones at Gustos. Not one of the girls in Gustos quoted us less than 150-200 us dollars and they never quote in pesos. I am fluent in Spanish and above average looking as well but they are all business there. To me, this is why Medellin is not the Holy Grail for mongering for freelancers at bars or discos. There are just not enough venues or one single great venue where prices are reasonable and quality is good. The Cocal bar in Jaco Beach, Habanos / Don Julios in Panama blow Gustos out of the water for quality, and selection. Girls can be had for 100-120 max in either of these venues while the better girls at Gustos want 150-200. I certainly did not see any 9s or 10s in Gustos so I don't see the justification for high prices. Many average girls in these places, while the hottest girls are online (FB, escort services, online etc.).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2626203]Excuse me, but how do you know that?[/QUOTE]Because I've had girls tell me that in mongering locales worldwide, including MDE. I generally tell girls what I'll pay and periodically I'll get the "ok. Don't tell anyone else. " FWIW I'm not a hard bargainer. I generally try to pay what's more or less that going rate. And if a girl says no, I move onto the next.
As I said, I'm not a Gusto's expert by any means. But logic would tell you this dynamic applies in any freelancer type venue. It's laughable to think that another girl can verify how much a guy gives a girl in these types of places. Guys can pay what they want and girls can accept what they want.
[QUOTE=SilverTurtle;2626213]Yes, it's crazy. This craziness was caused by the gringos, mainly Americans, there who accepted to pay 1,000-4000 % of normal prices. That's why locals always say that gringos fuck up everything.[/QUOTE]I've been going to Santa Fe in Bogotá since 2018 and I just started exploring Medellin this year. I did notice a lot more gringos in Medellin than I did in Bogotá. I myself prefer places with less tourist attention, Cúcuta was actually a nice place for mongering and with really good prices. And Santa Fe in Bogota and centro in Medellin but I have to check out Poblado.
[QUOTE=Combo;2626240]B It's laughable to think that another girl can verify how much a guy gives a girl in these types of places. Guys can pay what they want and girls can accept what they want.[/QUOTE]Exactly, but there are guys here that seem to think Gusto's is "unionized" somehow and the girls control the prices, and have control over girls that don't adhere to established pricing.
I believe Knowledge articulated Gusto's as being a place guys patronize who know nothing about mongering in Colombia.
And he's correct, however Gustos has it's place in Medellin, no different than the Mansion, in the sense that both places are a perfect fit for some guys.
As an example, a guy is in town for a few days, is well off, and staying at the Charlee Hotel.
He doesn't have to go far to get a companion at Gusto's, yet doesn't realize the girls working outside of the entrance to Gusto's around the Park go for 1/2 or less.
I find it amusing when I read posts about guys that have gone with girls from there and think it's the best place since sliced bread.
If they only knew how hosed they were getting, but at the end of the day, if the guys had a good time, and it's work for them, that's what matters.