[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Sat in Thai can mean honest and truthful too. Many Thai words come from Sanskrit I guess.[/QUOTE]There is no need to guess: many Thai words COME from Sanskrit!
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[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Sat in Thai can mean honest and truthful too. Many Thai words come from Sanskrit I guess.[/QUOTE]There is no need to guess: many Thai words COME from Sanskrit!
[QUOTE=Hat Trick]Excellent map Mick.Question: Am I to assume that places without 'FS' will not offer FS? Or places without 'soapie' will not offer soapies?Also, they all seem to be clustered in one small area of town, is that a subpar neighborhood like AMPs are in the US? Safe to go late in the evening?The prices seem more than reasonable. Thanks for the info.Oh, which one is the most upscale of them all MPs? The most storied franchise per se, if there is one.HT[/QUOTE]Sorry I missed the questions here.Firstly Soapies have been moved off the Map for the most part. Soapies Map will come out shortly. But if its a soapy, I will say so.Definition: Soapy MP means that a significant part of the session is the girl cleaning you in the bath tub. A proper soapy ought to see the girl joining you nude in the tub.Another name for Soapies is Turkish Baths.FS means FS is normally available. If an MP has no service information then FS may be available or may not.If we say HJ BJ then expect HJ and BJ but probably not FS but I can never guarantee that FS is impossible, plus status of FS availability can change and depend on the girls just like some do BBBJ and some CBJ.There are many places I have never been to so we must rely on other sources to help with the FS info: Giotto, Nic Frenchy, Satrai2000 and various ISG posters who kindly put in a detailed report on the lesser known places.
Others swear by it, at the behest of senior MP expert Mick Licker, made my virgin visit yesterday and here's how I voted:[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=722338&postcount=1830[/url]YMMV but this place seems to be a slam dunk ;)
Thanks Mick for the info,I'll be sure to contribute to your list when I'm done with couple of them. Gotta visit the MPs in BKK!! Btw, where is Darlings 1 and 2 and are they any good? I love soapies.Thanks again.
[QUOTE=Hat Trick]Thanks Mick for the info,I'll be sure to contribute to your list when I'm done with couple of them. Gotta visit the MPs in BKK!! Btw, where is Darlings 1 and 2 and are they any good? I love soapies.Thanks again.[/QUOTE]Darling is not my favourite soapy There are way better options for that price. However it is convenient for some in Sukhumwit. Its still on the map.There is no darling 2 to my knowledge.Here is my Soapy (Turkish Bath House) map (under construction):[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&z=12[/url].
I am forced once again to follow the Master of MP, Mick Licker.My fishbowl pick had great body, excellent skills. Unfortunately there are times when the 'chemistry' is just lacking, and this was one of those times. I found her too mechanical and also clock watching. She started off great but can't say ended in a bang. YMMVAs for the side-liners - since i went up first but ended earlier (yep, i cut it short), I did get to eye all of them. Although I'm not as picky as ML, 90% of them were absolutely 8-9's, great bodies, some better looking than others.For the farang surcharge of 1500 and regular 2000 or 2400, it's not a bargain. Since I don't qualify for the surcharge and it's a short walk from Love Boat, it will certainly remain on my list to repeat in the future.PS - did I mention ML's girl was off the charts? Sorry but don't pm me - I didn't catch her number ;)
Yesterday decided i needed some exercise.Got off BTS at Ratchathewi, and walked along Petchburi road westerly. Came to Soi4 and looked for "Bacara". Its closed down now. So that one is struck off. Turned left and walked down Urupong road. Crossed the bridge over the Khlong (canal) and the bright Red Lights of "Sao Botan" were evident on the right.S. Botan actually has a Cafe in the front called PP Cafe. Entering the Soi next to it, the first door is the Thai Traditional massage section, so I didn't go in there. The 2nd door is the Aap Op Nuat (Turkish Bath). There were about 50 girls in the fishbowl. Opens at 14:00 on week days. The older girls on the right were 1000 Baht for 1 hour. the middle girls were 1500 for 1.5 Hrs and the left end younger and prettier girls were 2000 Baht for 1.5 Hours. Some doable girls there, but you could get cheaper equivalent girls at places like Bangkok Cozy, Nancy, or Colonze. So I would think it would not be worth a special effort to go to S. Botan unless you happened to be in the district.But certainly the large array of girls is like a Nataree or Catherine but girls are older.Next I went down to Maitree Chit (Jit) Road in Chinatown to see why someone couldn't find "Harlem" down there. Turns out that Name has changed from "Harlem" to "The Cleopatra", not to be confused with "New Cleopatra" in Din Daeng which has also closed down. I guess thats why they have pinched the Cleopatra name. "The Cleopatra" is a small place with only about 6 girls in the fishbowl (well its Monday). The 1000 Baht girls (1.5 Hours) were not to my taste. The 1500 Baht girl was O.K. but apparently already booked.This place didn't really have enough class to tempt me to come back. S Botan was much better.I then had a little walk to find Texas in a very small alleyway to the right just after the "Chine Town Hotel".Thsi was a bigger place inside than "The Cleopatra" but fishbowl only had about 8 girls at the time. Opens at noon. They were all fat except for one who still didn't interest me. Prices started at 1000 Baht. I wouldn't bother to go back to here either.Years ago I had seen "Sahara" on Rama 4 road, I thought. So went to find it. Looks like it is long gone and replaced by some other sort of shopping/business complex. The taxi driver didn't know anything about it. It could have been rebadged under another name and could be round in Sathorn Neua (North) Road. So I'll look again when I check out the Silom area MPs.Noticed "Versailles" at Galaxy as went past close to Patpong. So will check that out another day too. So in summary S Botan is perhaps worth a look if you are in the district. Bargain basement punters can try The Cleopatra or Texas in Chinatown but i wouldn't recommend these two.I have commenced a Soapies Map on Google Maps. So these places can be located there:[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.712554,100.551896&spn=0.192451,0.299377&z=12[/url]
Within the past 10 days I have experienced two uncomfortable situations, one at Kornwan and the other at Irei. Within the 2 hour period I can usually pop 2-3 times. In both cases that is what I did. At the end of the session I offered 1,500 Baht to the girl, who was astonished. In both cases they were adament, stating that 1, 500 was for only one pop and each subsequent pop would cost another 1,000. Up to the point of payment, both offered GFE experiences. However, when I steadfastly refused to pay more, both girls turned sullen. Needless to say, I will not frequent either establishment again. Has anyone else had a similar experience?
Another report to be caught up.Kristen at Angel26 is on looong holiday (or is it a very long booking), so I called Aviva at 2:30PM. "Nana" was busy so i booked her for 5PM sight unseen (well I had seen the web pic).Her nickname is really "Nar" but to make it easier to remember has been changed to Nana (nar-nar). As soon as I saw her face I was already happy since the web page photo is very realistic:[url]http://www.avivabkk.com/girls/nana.html[/url]particularly the first one. She doesn't look old like the last photo (she is 25). Actually pics 3 and 4 are fibbing. Her toits are definitely not that big. She could have lost weight since the photos were taken but it still seems exaggerated.Seems she is very popular so i was lucky to get a booking maybe. She apparently speaks English a little bit but was very chatty to me in Thai. I took the 2Hr lotion massage to make sure there was plenty of time for other things :)The massage was soft and slow. I don't like really firm so O.K. by me, but I feel that those looking for a good strong massage would not be impressed.The girls get only 100 Baht per hour less various other fees and expenses, so in reality almost nothing. So really a monger should not be going there chiefly for the massage part. Most of you will know by now that I want everything.Even though she was only a small A cup, her body was nice and her looks turned me on.She had a nice light brushing/tickling technique that got me a hard on during that later part of the massage. I licked her body a little and proceeded to the DATY which she got well into as she couldn't ignore my tonhgue. Sexually she was quite shy and conservative but she got into it well enough for me to enjoy well too. No complaints from her at all. The feeling of being inside her pussy was better than normal. Not sure why. Maybe a just right fit. Her mouth and lips were large but not as soft as I was expecting when kissing her. Was something injected to puff them up??? :confused: But tits were small and totally natural so seems unlikely that lips were doctored.Not quite a GFE but still very satisfying. Probably only average for service but her looks made up for it reasonably well. Not in same league as my Utopia girl but the price is a lot less.I took some pics of her but as they don't contradict the web site pics, I might be too lazy to include them.I would probably go back, but I have a few other girls on a list to try first. My last Thonglor 2 girl, Bum (Boom) was a better more energetic screw now that I think about it, and a better massage.Nana will get plenty of repeat customers even if just because she looks good!
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]NicFrenchy probably uses 50 condoms per week. LOL.:) [/quote]Well, someone has to balance out with Opebo who has never used a condom in the past years LOLI probably use 20/week at most and they are mostly provided by the girls :)
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Well, someone has to balance out with Opebo who has never used a condom in the past years LOLI probably use 20/week at most and they are mostly provided by the girls :)[/QUOTE]Did you know the infamous (I think) Tuk is back at SOL? I might try out one morning while GF at English class.
Another late report.One evening checked out Soapies around Patpong.Started at Versailles or New Versailles Behind "Galaxy complex in Rama4 road just a little north of Surawong road.Can enter from PatPong by passing Rose Hotel and turning right. Opens 14:00. Girls were 1500 Baht (B numbers), 2000 Baht Red numbers, 2500 (S numbers) all for 1.5 hours. I never intended to stay but but red number 20 was short 152cm but very pretty (a stand out). Total of about 15 girls. Jip (#20) and I chatted for a while while bath filled slowly. She only has a little English. She massaged my head and shoulders. I let her watch the rest of the action soapy on the TV. She was very surprised when I new the names of the 3 female leads: Butsagorn, Phornchitaa (Benz) na Songkhlaa, and Teya Roger. But it just so happens that the latter 2 are really pretty Thai stars. Eventually the bath was ready.When she got her gear off my jaw dropped. Magnificent natural C cups and a full apple shaped bottom. Definitely artists model material.The bath is a complete blur now but sex was real good. With DATY she either came really fast or was faking. Hard to tell for sure as being wet doesn't prove anything. Just a little too quick for a sceptic to believe.Had a really good time, got a couple of pics, and gave her an extra tip. Pretty face and seriously hot body.Proceeded around the corner past Rose Hotel and down to Surawong road (suriwongse). Turning left as if going to the Montien, we find Infinity JC upstairs.About 20 girls in fishbowl and prices start at 2500 for most of them. About 4-5 were stunning to my taste. I'll definitely be back. I can't recall ever seeing such an array of beauties concurrently in a Soapy. Opens at 14:00I had already shot my bolt. Bummer!Next I walked through Patpong 1 passing Kangaroo Club BJ bar, Queen's Castle 1 and 2 where have nude dancing, accross to Patpong 2 to have a quick drink at SOL where "Tuk" was was back. Will try her some morning.Passed Bangkok Sisters. Made a mental note to look for Bi-girls there some day.After the supermarket and opposite Pharmacy we have Soapy: "Plaza". I'll call it Plaza Patpong to distinguish from Plaza Entertainment Sherbet/De Lila/Cupidy in Petchaburi road.Had about 8 girls starting at 1600 Baht for 2 Hrs. No 74 was do-able but the rest not quite pretty enough for me. Walked out to Silom Road. The Entered SalaDaeng Road to check exact location of Ogoto Oily/Lotion MP. I had it spot on on the Google Map already. Too late to enter as midnight already.Walked along Sathorn Neua Road for a bit and stopped at the street vendor (totally on his own) selling Thai deserts. Bought some Wun Gati (Coconut jelly) Sangkhayaa (Baked Thai custard). Right behind him was a huge vacant lot joining to Rama 4 road. I asked what was there before. He said was a turkish bath place, torn down to make way for new construction. "Sahara" I asked and he confirmed.So now my mystery of the missing Sahara is solved.Can't wait to get back to try one of the Infinite beauties of Infinity JC. :p
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Did you know the infamous (I think) Tuk is back at SOL? I might try out one morning while GF at English class.[/QUOTE]Been RTFF like crazy since I will be landing in BKK shortly. This will be my second trip but since I hadn't yet discovered ISG my first trip was more of a hit and miss event. Really only saw NEP but did enjoy a nice girl then. Am really pumped to check out all that is on tap. Wanted to thank all the posters for their insights and will definitely post my own FRs when I get the chance.But my curiousity is peaked and I am dying to know who "Tuk" is and why she is so infamous! SOL was one place I planned to check out so if someone can humour me and let me know that would be great! Thanks,AF
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Another late report.One evening checked out Soapies around Patpong.Started at Versailles or New Versailles Behind "Galaxy complex in Rama4 road just a little north of Surawong road.Can enter from PatPong by passing Rose Hotel and turning right. Opens 14:00. Girls were 1500 Baht (B numbers), 2000 Baht Red numbers, 2500 (S numbers) all for 1.5 hours. I never intended to stay but but red number 20 was short 152cm but very pretty (a stand out). Total of about 15 girls. Jip (#20) and I chatted for a while while bath filled slowly. She only has a little English. She massaged my head and shoulders. I let her watch the rest of the action soapy on the TV. She was very surprised when I new the names of the 3 female leads: Butsagorn, Phornchitaa (Benz) na Songkhlaa, and Teya Roger. But it just so happens that the latter 2 are really pretty Thai stars. Eventually the bath was ready.When she got her gear off my jaw dropped. Magnificent natural C cups and a full apple shaped bottom. Definitely artists model material.The bath is a complete blur now but sex was real good. With DATY she either came really fast or was faking. Hard to tell for sure as being wet doesn't prove anything. Just a little too quick for a sceptic to believe.Had a really good time, got a couple of pics, and gave her an extra tip. Pretty face and seriously hot body.Proceeded around the corner past Rose Hotel and down to Surawong road (suriwongse). Turning left as if going to the Montien, we find Infinity JC upstairs.About 20 girls in fishbowl and prices start at 2500 for most of them. About 4-5 were stunning to my taste. I'll definitely be back. I can't recall ever seeing such an array of beauties concurrently in a Soapy. Opens at 14:00I had already shot my bolt. Bummer!Next I walked through Patpong 1 passing Kangaroo Club BJ bar, Queen's Castle 1 and 2 where have nude dancing, accross to Patpong 2 to have a quick drink at SOL where "Tuk" was was back. Will try her some morning.Passed Bangkok Sisters. Made a mental note to look for Bi-girls there some day.After the supermarket and opposite Pharmacy we have Soapy: "Plaza". I'll call it Plaza Patpong to distinguish from Plaza Entertainment Sherbet/De Lila/Cupidy in Petchaburi road.Had about 8 girls starting at 1600 Baht for 2 Hrs. No 74 was do-able but the rest not quite pretty enough for me. Walked out to Silom Road. The Entered SalaDaeng Road to check exact location of Ogoto Oily/Lotion MP. I had it spot on on the Google Map already. Too late to enter as midnight already.Walked along Sathorn Neua Road for a bit and stopped at the street vendor (totally on his own) selling Thai deserts. Bought some Wun Gati (Coconut jelly) Sangkhayaa (Baked Thai custard). Right behind him was a huge vacant lot joining to Rama 4 road. I asked what was there before. He said was a turkish bath place, torn down to make way for new construction. "Sahara" I asked and he confirmed.So now my mystery of the missing Sahara is solved.Can't wait to get back to try one of the Infinite beauties of Infinity JC. :p[/QUOTEMick,I can tell you that I had good experiences at Infinity JC, I can recommend it.A question: on the googlemap you placed S. Botan at Rama VI soi 11. Maybe I am wrong but I thought it was located at soi 13. Check this please.Another question: anyone ever tried [b]Takara massage - Patpong I[/b]? Is it worth going?
[QUOTE=Taumaoe]Within the past 10 days I have experienced two uncomfortable situations, one at Kornwan and the other at Irei. Within the 2 hour period I can usually pop 2-3 times. In both cases that is what I did. At the end of the session I offered 1,500 Baht to the girl, who was astonished. In both cases they were adament, stating that 1, 500 was for only one pop and each subsequent pop would cost another 1,000. [/QUOTE]I am not familiar with either place, and there is no hard fast rule among the 1000 MP in Bkk! Most places I frequent, fishbowl sessions included 2 hrs (pared down to 1 hr 45 minutes these days), two pops, B2000, and 500 tip. Some places they do charge extra 1000 per pop and of course there are also some with farang surcharges.It's usually best to talk with poppasan if you are in doubt....it's been years since I could get a 3rd pop into a two hr session ;) And certainly if you did get 3 in a two hr session, your girl must have been pretty good - so she deserves a better tip - IMHO.