General Reports

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Well, it has been several days since I have arrived in Bangkok and I suppose its time to start sharing some of my experiences in the hunt for inexpensive horizontal refreshment, if only to stop Giotto from nagging me about it. Since you guys have all been there and done that, I’ll just post things that are different, if only from a newcomer's point of view.

Day 1

Sorry, nothing really juicy here, but it was my first night in town and when you experience things like this by yourself, it tends to change you.

I had a delay in Tokyo and arrived in Bangkok around 3AM Tuesday morning. After checking in at Giotto’s, I took a quick shower and went for a walk. I like taking walks around new places I stay at to get a feel for the area and mark places of interest like Internet Cafes, Money exchanges etc. I eventually made my way to Soi Cowboy and found that it was pretty much closed for the evening. A cabbie saw me and waved. I went over and we chatted a bit. He asked me if I was looking for a girl, and if so he knew where to find one at this late hour. No charge to look and I was free to leave if I didn’t like any of the girls. Against my better judgment, I agreed and off we went. While in the cab, I chatted with him and he mentioned a few places he knew. Alarms really went off in my head when I heard the name “Cupidity”. I believe someone posted earlier this place gives kickbacks to the cabbies.

Anyway, we wound up at this place I think was called the “Stardust”. The cabbie said he wanted to check to see if any girls were still there, asked me to stay in the car and went inside. Yeah right, I thought. More likely he wanted to go inside to make sure he got his finder’s fee. The place was dark, rather shady looking and it was a bit intimidating when about 4-5 guys came out of the bar and approached the cab. I’ve been in fights in my younger years in the military and prepared myself to get rolled. I had no illusions of winning, but I was going to make damn sure someone was going to bleed before I went down. As it turned out, they checked me out, thought things were okay and brought out two girls. Neither girl was particularly attractive to me but I asked how much for the taller and skinnier of the two was. The guy in charge initially wanted 3000, I countered with 2000, and that got him down to 2700, which included barfine and the LT itself. Not much of a LT since it was already 4AM and told him so. We haggled some more, but I wasn’t really interested and more than a little on edge with 4 other guys standing around watching me. Eventually I just asked the cabbie to drive me back. As we left, one of the guys tried to get me to tip him for parking in the spot. I refused and asked him what he was talking about. I eyed the cabbie and the cabbie said something to this clown then waved him off. I asked the cabbie to drive me back to the hotel. At this point, I just wanted to get some rest and lay off hunting until I got some better advice from Giotto and other local fellow mongers.

More interesting encounters to follow…

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[QUOTE=Fox Two]....A cabbie saw me and waved. I went over and we chatted a bit. He asked me if I was looking for a girl, and if so he knew where to find one at this late hour. No charge to look and I was free to leave if I didn’t like any of the girls. Against my better judgment, I agreed and off we went.....[/QUOTE]
Whilst not advisable to take this kind of trip, its far from dangerous, and the worst case is paying well over the odds for some P4P, personally, i think the fact you've done it has wised you up even more, and i think you played all of the situations that followed perfectly.
Although at 4am, i would suggest walking the sukhumvit, on the odd numbered side, between soi 19 (Robinsons) and soi 3, be careful of katoey pickpockets between soi Asoke and Soi 19, under the BTS. Plenty of fun to be had with FL's and bBG's who have finished shift, also plenty of drink & food stalls, and even Subway sandwich on the corner of soi 7/1.

[QUOTE=Dutch Boy]can anyone tell me what this place is like... is it bargirl terratory like issaan or a better area??..[/QUOTE]Surathani is not a bad place at all. Good staging area on the Southern Railroad for trips to Ko Samui and Ko Phuket. Take the sleeper train from BKK at 17oo and you'll be in either destination by next day by noon, well rested and ready to kit the beaches. Much cheeper and more hassle free than flying and more comfortable than bussing in. (RR line runs all the way to Singapore).

Many flirting opportunities with 'good' girls on the train. I've even got shagged right in a sleeper berth.

Day 2

Woke up, showered again and went downstairs for breakfast. I met Giotto and his day staff. Everyone was friendly and we hit it off well. I spoke with Giotto for a bit and he was gracious enough to offer to show me around a few of the local bars on Soi 33 later in the evening. I spent the day walking around and making travel arrangements to Vietnam (the next leg of my vacation). Later I came back for some dinner and got ready for the evening.

The name of the first bar eludes me ("The Office" I think?), but it’s within walking distance accross from the hotel. Being new to Bangkok, Giotto was nice enough to give me a rundown of what to expect, how to flag down a girl (basically just make eye contact and wave), and described some of the local lore. None of the girls at the first bar really stood out and after a drink, we moved on.

The next club was Monet, which was pretty much around the corner and a few buildings down. It was a smaller place and the music was a little louder. Giotto spotted some acquaintances and made small talk with them while I chatted with a girl named “Mon”. Mon was a short, cute girl with a friendly and bubbly attitude. While not a knock out beauty, she did have a certain charm and reminded me of a past girlfriend. We joked around a bit, asked the usual questions. Where are you from? How long are you staying? Etc. She started giving me an impromptu shoulder massage and things started progressing quite nicely. Giotto finished up his conversation and caught my eye. He suggested we try another place or two since he thought that since Mon was not drop dead gorgeous, she would probably still be free if nothing better turned up later. So I made an excuse to Mon, conveniently blamed Giotto for dragging me off and away we went.

Club Renoir was our next stop and this place was a bit classier than the last two. The furnishings were higher quality and the girls were better dressed. Several were quite attractive. Giotto picked up conversation with someone he knew, while I chatted up a girl whose name sounded like, “San”. San was a dark exquisite beauty. She had smooth skin and a toned body with small but firm looking breasts. She was in her mid twenties and definitely not an amateur. I was hooked. Her English was quite good and we played the usual “get to know you” small talk game. San was more reserved and while she didn’t mind leaving the bar with me to hang out, she made it clear that she couldn’t do a ST/LT session. She made some excuse about recently recovering from some surgery. No, not a ladyboy operation. Giotto would agree we were talking to someone 100% female. Anyway, I made it equally clear that a happy ending was what I was looking for in the evening. Regrettably, after a bit more chatting, no accommodation could be found and we bid our farewells and moved on to Giotto’s place for a look around. In retrospect, perhaps San had been more interested in going with Giotto after learning who he was, but whatever her reasons, she certainly knew she was attractive and knew how to play her game.

His place was quiet that evening and while there were several girls about, none of them really sparked my interest. As a side note, I must comment that Giotto’s mamasan is quite an attractive lady, at least in my book. So after a drink, I bid Giotto a good evening and headed back to Monet to see if Mon was still around. She was and we picked up right where we left off. After some small talk, some mutual massage and kissing, we agreed on 2000 for a LT session plus a tip if things went well.

We got back to the hotel and showered up together making sure to pay extra attention to the more sensitive parts. There was lots of DFK and we moved on to the bed for the main event. Oral wasn’t all that great as she tended to use her hands too much to stroke. We did several positions and finished up in doggie. After cleaning up, we curled up together and slept til morning. I didn’t feel like a second round when we woke up, so we showered and I treated her to breakfast before seeing her off.

More to follow…

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I plan to come to Thailand & maybe Vietnam via Laos for 12-18 days in late Nov/early Dec & as a complete newbie to the post here in Thailand,i am a monger in Canada who travels to Cuba alot,there is tons on info i desperately need to know before i book my trip.
I will not bore you all with the 100s of guestions here,but it would be great if some of you reply to me in a PM some ideas i am going to know:for example,how much would i need which includes $1500 in airfare,very modest accomadations in bangkok,pattaya,phuket,laos & vietnam,food,some drinks & of course a woman or 2 per day.
Thank you in advance to all who PMs me.
For a solo newbie i love this site,but theres just way too much info for 1 man to read & get a unbiased opinion from member who have there preference towards certain bars & hotels,and have an endless supply of funds to play with.

[QUOTE=Member #3200]I plan to come to Thailand & maybe Vietnam via Laos for 12-18 days in late Nov/early Dec & as a complete newbie to the post here in Thailand,i am a monger in Canada who travels to Cuba alot,there is tons on info i desperately need to know before i book my trip.
I will not bore you all with the 100s of guestions here,but it would be great if some of you reply to me in a PM some ideas i am going to know:for example,how much would i need which includes $1500 in airfare,very modest accomadations in bangkok,pattaya,phuket,laos & vietnam,food,some drinks & of course a woman or 2 per day.
Thank you in advance to all who PMs me.
For a solo newbie i love this site,but theres just way too much info for 1 man to read & get a unbiased opinion from member who have there preference towards certain bars & hotels,and have an endless supply of funds to play with.[/QUOTE]
As a senior member, you should know to RTFF first, and then ask specific questions for which you did not get an answer. Hey if you want to be lazy, that's fine. But please do not think that we have the time to answer either, for newbie questions. Perhaps some newbie will help you out.

Duni,

with all due respect, but I wonder what that RTFF advice is good for.
Nobody forces you or anybody else to reply to him. He politely asked for some advice via PM and I can't see anything wrong with it.

Also keep in mind that infos do change over the time.

for someone from north america who might have 1 chance in his life 2 afford to experience a trip to the other side of the world,i miss 1 day online & i might miss 3 pages of info on bangkok,there's more 2 travelling for us here if going 2 thailand that it might be 2 the more experienced/wealthier & who live closer than some of us, it is not because i am lazy,there is just more involved when planning such a trip.
compared to doing homework on such places as cuba,dominican republic & or costa rica compared to thailand,thailand is a novel to read while those places are as simple as a poem 2 read.
if most of you this i should just RTFF then fine i will do so,i asked nicely & i see what the responses were & the kind of society we live in nowadays.

Member #3200,

Traveler1234 gave you some good advice via PM how to start from scratch.

If you have any [b]specific[/b] questions feel free to ask, you will get answers.
But don't expect us to write a complete "Thailand for Newbies" guide in response to a question like "what to do in LOS ?".
You must do your part of the trade.

I also kindly ask you to stick to Jackson's [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=156273&postcount=91]Posting Guidelines[/url], chat style is not allowed (reads quite ugly), being a senior you should know.


Thank you

[QUOTE=The Traveler]...with all due respect, but I wonder what that RTFF advice is good for....
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I totally agree, as you well know, RTFF these days means going through pages and pages of individual member flames/arguments/disagreements just to find a single post of actual info. Hardly time well spent.

Theres always reports of distinction & FAQ

[QUOTE=Meaty]I totally agree, as you well know, RTFF these days means going through pages and pages of individual member flames/arguments/disagreements just to find a single post of actual info. Hardly time well spent.[/QUOTE]
Flames? Arguments? Disagreements? Where? when? how? by whom?
:D

This is not directed per se to Member # 3200 but to any newbie or senior member. I pm rather than posted a reply, per his request. It is quoted below along with his reply:

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My PM
Re: Newbie

Originally Posted by Traveler1234
Welcome to LOS threads.

You may or may not get pm from others. From me, a polite RTFf. This site has probably the most information (except for possibly China but that's because China has more places).

Start with FAQ - it has all the essentials and is one of the few countries that has a good FAQ.

Then read a couple of the reports of distinction....by then you'll be an expert before even visiting.

Reason for this advice is because you don't tell us what you're into? There are MP, go go bars, FL, escort services, and literally tons of 'opportunities' for pussy. Probably the only place as concentrated in one area and easy in Asia is Indonesia, eg.

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His reply
i wanna do all,but there is more 2 planning a trip than pussy-how much cash 2 bring along/what travller's cheques/malaria shots?/travelling within certain countries/personal security & other issues including accomodations--its a wide arrange of questions i am asking & looking 4 help--thats why i am doing it now-3 months b4 i book
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I think the FAQ answers most of his questions. So I leave it to each individual to draw his own conclusion re how we should reply to similar future 'queries'?

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]This is not directed per se to Member # 3200 but to any newbie or senior member. I pm rather than posted a reply, per his request. It is quoted below along with his reply:

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His reply
i wanna do all,but there is more 2 planning a trip than pussy-how much cash 2 bring along/what travller's cheques/malaria shots?/travelling within certain countries/personal security & other issues including accomodations--its a wide arrange of questions i am asking & looking 4 help--thats why i am doing it now-3 months b4 i book
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I think the FAQ answers most of his questions. So I leave it to each individual to draw his own conclusion re how we should reply to similar future 'queries'?[/QUOTE]

Two ideas popped into my head when I read the query: 1) the use of chat room style typing and 2) the nature of the query. Let me discuss my 2nd thought first. Regarding travel to Thailand, there are numerous travel sites that offer comments/suggestions about health, personal security, transportation, money, traveller's checks, cash etc. These range from Fodor's to Lonely Planet to the infrequent comment in Stickman. Thus, I would suggest that the noob either read the web or go to a knowledgable travel agent in his (I assume that the noob is a he) neighborhood. That thought was reinforced by the chatroom style of typing; my impression--based on albeit very limited data--is that the noob is lazy and wants people to give him a bunch of advice that he just doesn't want to look up on his own; he has admitted having three months to search for information.

Well. I suppose that I could suggest that he take only cash, pay THB8,000 LT at Thermae or Grace, get a room from Giotto for THB4,000/night, and try some of that
keng rot action that the girls are up on.

BTW--I'll be arriving LOS Tuesday for a week, staying over on Suk Soi 20. If anyone is up for a beer, PM me. I'll also stop by Giotto's to check out the rooms!