GFE is what motivates my loyal, somtimes semi-exclusive, patronage...
I have to agree that if a guy were just limiting himself to only one girl, the end result would probably be as many have suggested...a let down.
But, the reality of my situation is different than what has been represented. I am not limiting myself to one girl. I am selecting one girl based on my own preference to be with her, because she is far superior to any I have formerly been with in Monterrey, and far superior to any I anticipate experiencing out of the pool of available bar girls in Monterrey in the future.
This last trip to Monterrey, I bar fined a new girl in addition to my "favorita." And, I have scouted several clubs for new girls, working them accordingly, setting up future endeavors. I have one at Tangalay, two at Harem, four at Pasarelas, two at Givenchy, and probably more that I am forgetting to mention.
Carlos is regularly commenting that I have stolen all the available inventory in Monterrey, especially when there is a new girl. He usually finds that I have already been there. So, I am not guilty as charged. I am guilty of having a preference for my "Angel Girl," but not guilty of totally limiting my other options. I know better.
You see, I simply have a "favorita" in Monterrey, a girl that far and away delivers my brand of GFE better and more sincerely, even if only acted out, than any of literally a couple hundred I have taken on salida in Monterrey over five years.
I could understand if some might believe my "strategy" were born out of naivete, especially if I had only bar fined a few girls here or there, if I were a newbie. But, I have bar fined a couple hundred in Monterrey alone, and have experience in many other venues. I am fortunate to be in a position to use these experiences to gauge a comparison, to use that experience as a bench mark that enables me to comparison shop, providing me a perspective that many may not necessarily have at their own disposal.
Humbly I say...I don't mention this to brag of my experience. I merely point out that I can understand why some might have apprehension or skepticism about my judgement as to what I may have found unique in this one particular girl. But, she is "unique." I have a vast sphere of experience and a worldwide frame of reference to compare her performance to, and her performance is "unique." So, my conclusions about her are based on a wide range of experiences not only in Monterrey but in many other parts of the world.
But, lets keep everything in perspective. We all know that performance varies based on "chemistry." With this same girl, your mileage may vary, just as my mileage may vary with respect to girls that you might recommend. There is more to be said for chemistry than meets the eye, and I firmly believe that girls that come as "recommended" are totally dependent on our own likes and dislikes, chemistry, attitudes, etc...
Angel Girl, and most girls in general, obviously have the capacity to deliver the goods the way we like them. Girls have the capacity to probably deliver in general to anyone. But the quality of the delivery is dependent on the chemistry that exists to begin with. That is what makes, at least for me anyway, Angel Girl "unique."
There have been a few in Monterrey that were similar in GFE, but they were obviously acting out their affections, and I was able to feel that from them in a relatively short period of time. Those girls were still good bar fines, and I enjoyed my time with them, but in a relatively short time our encounters went from GFE to increasingly mechnical in nature. This one does not give me that feeling. She is totally immersed in her role. That is, of course, assuming it is a role, which I am beginning to sincerley doubt at this juncture.
The costs, the ROI, tell the story. I am totally GFE'ed to the inth degree with this girl, including passionate sex, with her being totally sincere in every respect, and it costs me less, hourly, than if I had somebody cut my lawn, and payment is at my discretion, totally.
My brand of GFE is very similiar to what Carlos describes in his definition. I am not really interested in the mechanical delivery of sex from a chica, not even if the eventual outcome is to get my nut off. I don't mean that as a criticism of those that like both scenarios, such as yourself MJ. And, admitedly, if I find a girl that's HOT, and she is not GFE, but HOT, HOT, HOT, I enjoy getting in on with her, even mechanically, just as much as the next guy. But, that is not necessarily what I prefer or seek out. If I had my choice between the two, I would choose the moderately attractive girl for GFE, my "Angel Girl," who has the most gorgeous ass in MTY by the way, in lieu of a totally "HOT Girl" that delivers the goods, but lacking much GFE, even if they were both the exact same cost.
Here are my criteria for excellent GFE. I have reiterated those attributes that Carlos mentioned, embellished them, and added a few more. But, MJ, I must qualify my comments here in pointing out that we do differ with respect to my wanting the girls to hang around LT (long time), versus your preference that they leave within a couple of hours.
I do not like to see the girls leave. I enjoy having a girl with me. I do eventually grow tired, wanting them to leave, just as you describe about yourself, but I like them to hang around much longer than just a couple of hours. I think it could have to do with a difference in our ages. You will have to let me know if you morph into a Spongebob look-a-like by the time you reach your early fifties. That might be interesting to know how age affects the overall criteria for GFE. Personally, I think the age influences are huge, as are the influences with respect to married or unmarried, children, and specifically if one has experienced raising daughters as I have. I believe that my past experiences give me a perspective into the mind of some girls that proves to be very effective at bringing out potential GFE....Just a theory.
With respect to LT versus short time, I really enjoy their companionship, which is what separates me from most mongers I know. My criteria for excellent GFE are things that might be construed as having a real girlfriend...but, in my case, that is not really something I am available for. But, none the less, it is what I enjoy. And, it is also what makes my criteria so hard for the average Mexican bar girl to live up to...I realize that.
Many will possibly say I am looking for a legitimate girlfriend, and not a prostitute. But, I am not able to entertain the idea of a legitimate girlfriend, so I need my girls to morph into something that is not particularly easy for them to possibly understand. I am almost certain that most girls do not understand me, and do not understand what I am actually looking for. My Angel Girl does.
Here is my perfect GFE girl:
1. A girl that smiles and jokes around alot.
2. A girl whose eyes twinkles.
3. A girl with a bubbly attitude (jokes around).
4. A girl that hugs a lot.
5. A girl that kisses a lot, on the lips.
6. A girl that cuddles.
7. A girl that seems "hot" in the privado area.
8. A girl that after all this is good in the sack-which to me means a girl that demonstrates a swooning passion from foreplay, working her way into a frenzied lustful kind of decadent desire to screw me like crazy, but to do it with considerable affection, kissing, hugging, but evenutally, and animalistic kind of desire without restraint :-)
9. A girl that is playful.
10. A girl that initiates sex.
11. A girl that shows a sincere desire to hang around with me doing other things.
12. A girl that shows a sincere desire to do things with me that go beyond just sex, things like movies, dinner, shopping, ice cream...actual dating kinds of activities.
13. A girl that does not mind being seen with a man twice her age in public. Although, one that is mindful of society's prohibitions to such things, and is discrete otherwise, not causing too much embarrassment for on-lookers. This is not something you have to concern yourself with too much in the East. It is primarily a social taboo in Western society it seems.
14. A girl that hangs onto to me when we walk together, caressing me, etc...
15. A girl that kisses me, discretely, on the lips, in public and private, without any prompting from me whatsoever.
16. A girl that gazes into my eyes.
17. A girl that does not always need to be paid.
18. A girl that does not prevail upon my generosity too much when we shop together.
19. A girl that does things other than sex to demonstrate affection.
20. A girl that remembers things I have told her in the past, and knows me.
21. The girl must be very ticklish so I can torture her accordingly. :-) Part of the playful aspect of things.
22. A certain number of girls are overly sensitive with respect to foreplay. The best GFE girls like a lot of foreplay, and enjoy oral sex performed on them, and they are not too sensitive in that area for pocket rockets and oral sex to be performed on them. My experience is that about 40% of girls are perfect, 40% are slightly too sensitive in that area, and 20% don't like it or are indifferent to it being performed on them.
23. A girl should like to listen to music, to savor the romance of the experience.
My circumstances with "Angel Girl" exist primarily because I prefer her delivery of GFE, and I like her reactions to the things I do. She delivers an extremely sincere version, even by the standards I have illustrated above. She has demonstrated her capacity for GFE more than any other girl I have ever met. She has consistently delivered outstanding quality now for almost (8) months. Usually, when I have found a girl that I particularly like, I begin to notice "cracks in her porcelain" well before now. Usually, within only a couple of salidas I start to notice that act coming through.
But, in this instance with "Angel Girl," the act is not discernable. That doesn't mean that I have discounted the idea that it is all and act, or that I am "committed" to anything with her, other than to patronize her more loyaly than the others in Monterrey. I simply patronize her because she delivers exactly what I am looking for with NO discernable insincerity.
Other girls have done the same thing in other countries, primarily in Asia and Colombia, but not in Mexico. That is why I am so hard on the Mexicana with my commentary. They do not generally compete well with the attitudes, acting ability, whatever we wish to call it, compared to girls in some of the other venues.
We can get into a lengthy discussion as to "why" the girls act like they do toward us, what their attitudes are toward the emotion of "love," etc...which is really not important if the goods are being delivered optimumly. Many guys are always telling me "why" my girls are doing this or that, acting a certain way toward me. But, the bottom line is, the girls I like, my favorites, are doing "it" the right way, while many, many others are too lazy, greedy, and/or amateurish to deliver the goods consisitenly. They eventually fail to maintain my interest level, and to ensure my loyal patronage over time. The "WHY" doesn't really matter to me.
Frankly, MJ, when you first commented a couple of months ago to me, you mentioned how sometimes these girls develop serious feelings for us, feelings that can result in legitimate heartache for them. I must admit that I am sincerely concerned that perhaps things are going too far in that respect with my "Angel Girl." I am concerned that it may not be an act on her part, and that she is not being insincere with me. I am more concerned that by patronizing her with my own brand of BFE sincerity, I am being insincere with her. I hope not, but that too has me a little concerned.
But, if her's is an act, she is an outstanding actress. And, if she is an outstanding actress, then I am certainly getting my money's worth with respect to my brand of GFE. So, why would we, the two of us, want anything to change. Whether she is in fact getting a BFE, or whether she is financially enriched as a result of seeing me and that is her only motivation, then I am happy. So, I see little reason to patronize others if I can have what makes me happy in exchange for whatever small sums of money I do pay her.
And, MJ, you mentioned this before too, which is an interesting observation. I do agree that what motivates my "Angel Girl" are things that have more to do with her own sociological influences than actual "love" per se. Like you said before, to be sincerely treated like she is worth something is a pretty heady thing for a young Mexican lower class girl. And, to be treated with the appreciation that is characterstic of my BFE treatment (Boy Friend Experience) is usually something that most Mexican girls do not seem to experience from most of their lower class boyfriends. The sociology has a tremendous influence on how the girls define "Love," and the "BFE." And, the sociology of the lower class Mexican bar girl sometimes serves me well in soliciting GFE from them, probably resulting from sociological influences I will never fully understand as a Gringo.
I am aware of that, even though I may not thoroughly understand the influences that motivate them. I am sincerely, at this juncture, concerned that I am setting her up for a real heartache, something that I did not intend to happen. But, now things have progressed, even for me, beyond just the fantasy of the experience, and my concern is for my friend and lover, that she not be sincerely hurt by seeing me. If on the other hand, it is an act, my concerns are of no consequence, and I can relax with respect to any guilt I might feel over having romanced my girl into some kind of eventually hurtful let down.
My Angel Girl is smart and savy. She has a very strong personality, not strong willed or bitchy, but emotionally courageous. I sense that quality in her personality. I have to assume that even if her feelings are legitimate, she is intellegent enough to understand the limitations of our relationship, something I have explained to her numerous times, just on the off chance that all of this "romance" coming from her is legit. But, none-the-less, if her feelings are legit, I am not entirely sure I want the ride to end, even if her eventual hurt is the final consequence to her for entering into her chosen profession, and exposing her vulnerabilities to me.
I don't take GFE that seriously either...
I agree with your post completely. Nobody is talking about making life changing commitments to these kinds of girls. Some of the girls have the same motice operandi you described with respect to flattering us, not many, but some are good at it. Most, frankly, in my experience, do not try that hard.
Most of the girls in Monterrey are not up to my standard of GFE, and were they to pledge their undying love to me, I would not believe it. Frankly, most of them are not believable even when they tell us in person that they are madly in love with us. That speaks volumes about their acting ability. That is what GFE is all about. Some are much better at it than others at working their clients.
With respect to cell phone communication, I just like receiving texts from them. It's kind of like going out to the mailbox to fetch the mail everyday, or checking to see if there are any interesting emails received each day, or checking the boards to see what might have been posted while we were absent. It's just a diversion while I am back here in "no man's land."
The actual content of their posts is sometimes "intriguing" to say the least, more of a "mystery" due to their usually lacking correct grammer and spelling, kind of an interesting puzzle to decipher, but fun none-the-less. But, when I receive their texts, and their pledges at undying love, I take them all with a grain of salt, and I realize that they do not carry enough legitimacy to motivate me beyond contemplating them just intellectually, nothing more. I have no motivation to take the totality of their comments to heart, nor do I intend to follow-up with any kind of action to legitimize them as real girlfriends.
But, I must also point out that while the statements you found, WastedG, in their cell phones, might on the surface seem disappointing, you must also realize that those are just text messages sent to their clients for "marketing effect." It does not necessarily mean that they do not consider you "Special," regardless of your stumbling upon that relatively disappointing revelation through covert means.
We all know that salidas are not common in Monterrey, and we all know that the girls sell their bodies to men that are willing to pay the price. The girls work in clubs where they are charged with the responsibility of impressing hundreds of men, but they do not typically go on salida often. They do not get to know their clients on that level generally speaking. We are "unique" to them in that sense, and with that distinction, I am convinced that we are sometimes considered by some of them as "Special."
Again, the reasons "why" don't really matter. Everybody is all wrapped up in "why" they do what they do. Whether there is, or is not, legitimacy in their feelings doesn't really matter because none of us are going to make any moves that legitimizes those feelings. So, our intellectual contemplations about their respective states of mind are merely folly that we have to entertain us intellectually, emotionally, just a fantasy and nothing more.
For that reason, I think you have to cut them some slack with respect to their marketing prowess. Frankly, WastedG, I think you do hold a particularly "Special" place in their hearts. The girls are just doing their jobs to cultivate clients when they send broadcast messages, but it does not necessarily mean that they do not have legitimate feelings for you, regardless of what is texted for marketing effect to their clients.
With respect to my former posts, and specifically with respect to "Angel Girl," because she delivers the GFE according to my criteria, which is a relatively demanding set of criteria for any Mexican bar girl to fulfill, she enjoys a level of my patronage that exceeds what most others would receive from me, even to the point of relative exclusivity.
It is not a matter of exclusivity due to romantic commitment, but more a matter of relative exclusivity due to performance, cost, and my own expectation for a superior experience compared to other Mexican bar girls in Monterrey. If she were to fail in her job, I would not care about patronizing her exclusively.
Again...nobody is talking about making life changing commitments. I am talking about making patronage commitments, commitments that result in my being the most satisfied with my time in MTY. If I contemplate the potential that she may or may not be sincere in her feelings, or whether she might be hurt as a result of romantic disappointments that may or may not develop between us, then I am concerning myself intellectually only with such things, but nothing more. And, if I am contemplating such things about her when in reality her's is a total "act," then she must be doing her job really, really well.
The way I look at it, if she does have legitimate feelings for me, her feelings are more the result of the way she is treated by me, and a result of her wanting out of a life that is, by comparison to our's, a living hell. So, I do care for my best girlfriends because they are precious human beings, and friends, questionable ones, sometimes disingenuous ones, but likeable ones none-the-less.
I am also totally aware that she, Angel Girl, is not from my world, and could never be from my world, not in a million years. So, there is nothing to be done on my end. That is why in my former post I said that she was responsible for exposing her own vulnerabilities to "me."
Many of us see ourselves as being vulnerable to these girls, emotionally, financially, etc...but, the reality is that they are exposing their vulnerabilities to us by selling themselves to we that have only one thing in mind, to use them for our purposes, some for GFE, and some for mechanical release.
It is "they" that are vulnerable to "us" because none of us are going to actually contemplate any "life changing" kinds of behaviors with respect to legitimizing them as real girlfriends, something that some of them may actually hope for because we are distinctly different than the majority of their other clients, and many of us actually have the capacity to change their lives significantly for the better. In my opinion, if there is legitimacy to their feelings for us, it originates with that prospect and builds into something sincere from there.
I was just contemplating a return to MTY again...looking over the flight arrangements, considering the costs, the amount of time spent both in travel, and in waiting around in MTY for the GFE opportunity, which is somtimes rather ellusive. Compared to other venues like Asia and Colombia, even comparing MTY to Costa Rica, Monterrey offers significant less opportunity for GFE encounters, especially for the money spent.
Frankly, I am hard pressed lately to get too terribly excited at the prospect of returning to MTY, and that's even when I know that upon my return, I will have a "good" GFE girl there, at least some of the time, one that delivers the goods the way I like them delivered. She is not nearly available to me to the extent that I would prefer, and that is what causes me great pause. I do not like to be bored.
My Angel Girl is NOT available to me enough, even though she provides me with her excellent brand of superior GFE. It just isn't quite enough to make the tedium, the money spent, the boredom in the off hours, etc...seem like it's worth the effort to arrive there. For that reason, I may even decide to fly directly into MTY this time for about $100 more than it costs me to fly into Laredo and take the bus down. Of course, when I start to contemplate the money that will be spent in the end by going to MTY, I start to consider other options entirely.
I am planning to return between the 16th and the 23rd of June, but I have been hesitant, looking at all the other options, that coming from a guy who has a relative sure thing in his Angel Girl. But, only in the sense that she is a reliable option, if not one that is not as easily available as I might find othewise in other venues.
Were I foolishly considering my Angel Girl as an actual "Novia," I would be always considering the idea that by returning I would be striving to legitimize her in some way. But, in reality, I am contemplating a trip to other venues because a return to MTY, even with the potential for a good GFE from an exceptional girl, does not typically stack-up to what I might expect to experience elsewhere.
If I return to MTY it will be because it is an easier venue, cheaper to get to, easier from me to justify as a business destination, also offering me that added potential for entertainment by my being able to fraternize with my amigos, and also because I have no other decent options here in the US.
I notice that Costa Rica has a very similiar airfare cost right now. I would have to fly into Miami first, then on to San Jose. I could literally be there in the same amount of time. I could get to San Jose for maybe about $50 more, round trip. And, I could then continue on to Cartegena, Medellin, Cali....where I can get todo la noche, GFE style, for about $30-$60 a night, all night every night. And, if I want it, I can get short time (ST) for even less, having multiple encounters each day with totally HOT mechanical release.
So, I am really vacillating over whether I should return to Costa Rica/ Colombia, or to MTY. Costa Rica will almost guarantee me an easily arranged, todo la noche, GFE, with a HOT stripper for a lot less money compared to MTY, and it will yield todo la noche in contrast to 1.5-6 hours in MTY. And, in Colombia, the sky is the limit, all for about $30-$60 a night.
But, honestly, I do not particularly feel even like going to Costa Rica/Colombia to monger alone. I miss the comradre, the fraternizing with my amigos, and the relative diversity of selection that MTY offers in comparison to San Jose.
The GFE is the thing that breaks the tie, whether to monger in MTY or travel to other venues. I frankly think I am getting lazier...It's easier to come to MTY, find my Angel Girl, have a couple of GFEs, fraternize with my friends a little, easier than the logistical effort that would be required of me to venture off to less familiar venues. But, I am still reluctant to chance the down time in MTY waiting for my Angel Girl to find the time to come around, so at times I just think I might be better off staying home, saving my money, and flying off to Asia.
I miss my amigos, Carlos and Porker, and my other amigos that might find the opportunity to return while I am there, WastedG, Mr. L, RTW, etc...So, I will probably return to fraternize, and to hopefully experience some GFE in the process, maybe work a few new girls for kicks, cultivate more options in MTY, hand out a few cookies, a couple of jelly beans here or there, etc...I Hope you can make it WastedG.
[QUOTE=Wastedgman]I did not read the entire posts but just scanned through them real quick.
Let me tell you what I found out and it shold speak for itself:
I had my sI did not read the entire posts but just scanned through them real quick.
Let me tell you what I found out and it should speak for itself:
I had my share of GFE where I was truly in love. One day, she left her cell phone behind and I scanned through it. Every word of love that was sent to me had been sent to ten other guys. Every call she made to me, with her thinking I do not understand Spanish, had been made while in bed with me to other guys. She played them the same exact way she played me. Did not need any other clarifications. I was one of many while I thought I was the one and only.
GFE is true, but it is offered to countless others and every one of us felt we were the only one. It's their job and they do it well.
Heck, I am given the same from a girl that 'assumingly' belongs to one of my friends. Same words he heard where said to me after she was done with him. Did I make that clear? My friend would tell me what he had and she world turn around and give it again to me telling me I am the one and only.
GFE for a price. Professionally offered to make you feel special.
Fall for it and you're a fool.
I have done other guys' girls. What do you want to call that? Cheating? No. It their job. And it obviously works..... but not on me. Not any more.
Again, she gives you GFE because she is has been given to others. She’s good at it and it shows. … You’re not the only and only. She is working and doing a hell of a job.
Was I clear?
Wasted
hare of GFE where I was truely in love. In summary, she left her cell phone behind and I scanned through it. Every word of love that was sent to me had been sent to ten other guys. Every call she made to me, with her thinking I do not understand Spanish, had been made while she was in bed with me to other guys. She played them the same exact way she played me. Did not need any other calrifications. I was one of many while I thought I was the one and only.
GFE is true, but it is offered to counltess others and everyone of us felt we were the only one. It's thri job and they do it well.
Heck, I am given the same from a girl that 'assumingly' belongs to one of my friends. Same words he told me about where said to me after she was done with him. Did I make that clear? My friend would tell me what he had and she wold turn around and give it again ot me telling me I am the one and only.
GFE for a price. Profissionally offered to amke you feel special.
Fall for it and you're a fool.
I have done other guys' girls. What do you want to call that? Cheating? No. Its their job. And it obvuiously works..... but not on me. Not any more.
Was I clear?
Wasted[/QUOTE]
I will give your ideas a try...BUTTTTTTTTTT!!!
You are stuck on the "why" I am or am not getting "GFE." It's not the "why" that concerns me. I am paying each and every time, even now, even to my Angel Girl, all be it in much smaller amounts than what's usually required even to obtain a standard MTY bar girl salida experience, and thankfully she actually provides what I am looking for.
But, in cases where I pay the going rate, I don't find myself receiving GFE to my standard, which is a standard that Angel Girl attains regularly with me. If I could find other girls that produce that same quality of experience, even for the going rate, I would gladly expand my flock. It isn't like I haven't been looking or that I am discounting your collective advise to play my game a little differently. I will optomistcally endeavor as recommended by Mill, Carlos, Porker, but...
REMEMBER, I have probably bar fined at least 200 girls from the clubs of Monterrey already. I am not making these judgements without also having considerable experience with probably the largest sampling of girls in MTY compared to anyone here on this board, at least with respect to "salidas," and notwithstanding possibly the experience of WastedG, although he has been at it for a shorter period of time than I in Monterrey. Obviously, Carlos and Porker have the most general experience with the girls of MTY, but not with respect to Salidas...right? Even Porker, who has a considerable "worldwide" experience, has not completed the numbers of sorties I have with respect to actual salidas in Monterrey. So, I don't make these accusations of the girls without knowing a thing or two about it through direct experience.
I do think that Mill's former observation with respect to living in the venue are directly relevant to my situation. You guys all have the ability to make GFE work for you. I have to make it all happen within one week, re-visiting Monterrey once a month, at great personal expense due to travel costs. I have to accomplish what you guys can slowly accomplish over time, and with no travel expense to constrain your efforts. You have infinite patience with respect to making things happen because you don't have the expense looming over your heads with respect to overall costs.
If I were living in Monterrey, I suspect my conclusions about the girls would be different because I would have the time to worm my way in with them. As it is now, even with Angel Girl, my routine absence is a disadvantage. If I were local, I may find myself adopting the same opinions about the girls that Mill has articulated here, probably so. But, that is the one circumstance where I do have an advantage over all of you, if that is an advantage, in that I can escape back across the border, leaving all that baggage behind me in Monterrey.
Porker reminds me that there are plenty of girls that are willing to climb on the "gravy train." But, my point is that the level of GFE that's attainable from most MTY girls, even if you puke pesos on them, is not worth the investment. Porker may not have considerable experience with salidas, and he may limit much of his activity to the massage parlors and the privados, but he still knows this because he has been to other venues, and he knows just how expensive it is in Monterrey by comparison. He also knows that he can blow into the PI, and find a good girl, probably within an hour, and that if he wants it, she will stick to him like glue, providing all the GFE he can stand until he finally is so tired of her he will have to kick her in the ass to move on to something new. That is the GFE I seek. I get just as tired of them as the next guy, wanting something different here and there, but I want to be the one making the decision as to when to kick them loose. As it stands now, most of the girls never really attain any level of GFE in Monterrey, so kicking them loose is putting the cart before the horse.
But, more importantly, it is not only more expensive in MTY, the girls do not provide, as a whole, even for their going rate, anything even remotely comparable in quality of experience to what is avaiable in other venues for their respective going rates. If their "need" is the motivator (the "why" being money), then I will postulate further by stating that even if I were to pay most MTY girls twice the going rate, I doubt seriously that the level of GFE would be any better. It is not entirely a matter of the money spent. It is a matter of attitude, culture, conditioning, and money. That is "why" I am unsatisfied with their performance. I am not concerned with why they provide GFE, I am concerned that they do not provide it, some to a worser or better extent than others depending on the girl of course.
Most of them simply do not really possess the desire to deliver what I am looking for, regardless of the amount of money spent. Conversely, within other venues, I've found my brand of GFE encounter, regardless of the "why," to be more easily available, and for much less of the "why," the money. It's true that the cost of travel is typically more than what it generally costs to travel to MTY, but discounting the travel expense, and soley judging based on the experience the girls provide, there are much better venues for my brand of GFE than MTY.
Unfortunately, I like hangin out with you guys too damned much and I will probably be returning soon to puke pesos once again on a flock of undeserving, typically unappreciative assemblage of hookers that "CHOOSE" not supply GFE due to attitude, not even if their lives are frickin' depending on it. :-)
To reiterate Porker's former comment, I concur completely:
"Carlos (and Mill), you are obviously right about Mexican girls not being as financially desperate as their SE Asian sisters, but there is also a HUGE difference in the attitudes of Mexican mongers as well, who pay out the ASS for overpriced drinks for girls to sit around and laugh at their jokes. The girls are unbelievably spoiled by guys gushing money who don't even expect much sex, if any. Asian girls get paid a LOT less and actually have to EARN their money. Yet their attitudes are 1000% better."
It is all about attitude, cultural conditioning, even when the "why," the money, is comparatively equal in comparative venues. It is not the "why." It is attitude and sociological conditioning (ie: "guys paying out the ass for..." nothing).
[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]Porker, Mill, Wasted... all of us are telling you the same thing, USB.
Be it Monterrey or be it Costa Rica or Colombia... you are getting the same "GFE", the one you are looking for, for one and one reason only: money.
What will happen if the you tell a girl "I don't have any money"... the girl will give you a kick in the ass and adios "GFE"
And this:
"Most of the girls in Monterrey are not up to my standard of GFE"
You are phrasing the statement wrong: "We are not up to the BFE standard of the girls of Monterrey"
If you start looking for girls understanding this, which you totally refuse, everything would be different.
You've seen me set the ground rules with the girls, impossing the ground rules as a matter of fact.
If I weren't married, I'd had 3 girls eating from my hands right now, and not ugly fat girls... you know the ones I mean at the Infinito, Prestige and Harem.
I make them forget their standards and make them start acting by my own...[/QUOTE]
International Sex (was Guide) Discussion Board
Not that I'm complaining.... no no y no
I'm planning a June 14th trip. If any of you dares, come on down. Although I do not know how much I can handle anymore. I have aged 3.5 months since my last visit. Besides, this needs to be a relaxing get-away trip for me. I need a break from it all. Been working way too hard. Of course, all subject to change with or without notice.
I want to be cheap and lazy for a change. I think it has a more calming effect. Well .... again, all subject to change.
Mr. "L" is in too. We'll just have to coordinate.
Wasted
