Amsterdam

I’m providing a summary report, based on, quoted from, summarized from recent reports on this forum, and somewhat on my own experiences. I have tried to provide info for newbies that isn’t often given.

NOTE TO REGULARS: please give enough specific info for newbies like me to find places, and the hours. Feel free to offer corrections to this report. It would be great if some local expert would write a more complete “FAQs of Life” introduction.

Options in Amsterdam include RLDs (Red Light Districts), private houses (privehuis), clubs, and escorts. The newspaper is probably a source of info. Non-pro is always an option if you get lucky. I have summarized info on RLDs and discussed one privehuis. You’ll find info on clubs, escorts, etc in the earlier postings. This forum has separate areas for private houses and window girls (RLDs).

RED LIGHT DISTRICTS (RLDs)
see http://www.rld-info.com for good maps; how good the other info there is not known.

When negotiating price, it’s worth asking whether she will be naked. Reported: in de Walletjes (and sometimes Singel) they don’t want to remove their top. Prices vary: reported 35-50 Euro, better looking ladies can command a higher price. "Quickie" experience. Mostly transient out of town providers in city center, some in De Pijp looked like they may be Dutch. Not confirmed: you can find some open for business by 10.00am, and as late as 2.00am.

de Walletjes is the main red light district. Crowded with non-customer tourists. Opinions vary on quality – some say the best-looking women are here, others say they look old and tired and will hurry you. Location: near the Dam, in the direction of Nieuwmarkt, bounded to the south by corner of Warmoesstraat/Dam Straat and Kloveniers Burgwal/Oude Hoogstraat. Head down Dam Straat and you’ll eventually get to Oude Hoogstraat (the street changes names).

Singel – various streets near Singel canal at Kortejesp, see map at Web site above for details. Around 4pm I found several available window ladies, none to die for, not terribly young, but probably ok.

De Pijp – south of the city center along Ruysdealkade at Govert Flinkstraat, as well as other locations a few blocks away, see map at Web site above for details. Around 5pm I found a few on Ruysdealkade, a bit better than at Singel. One petite blonde, good looking, great figure, but I was put off by the cigarette she was smoking.

PRIVATE HOUSE/PRIVEHUIS

Park 118 address: Sarphatiapark 118, hours 10am-2am (but that means you have to leave by 2am). Shift change reported as 4pm. The main street name is "Ceintuur Baan", but it changes to Sarphatiapark only along the park. Park 118 is on the opposite side of Sarphatiapark street from the park and has a slightly larger number on the doorway; when I visited it was a black-painted brick unit among the red-brick units. Easy to find by watching street numbers. It’s close enough to De Pijp that you can have a look there as well.

Tram: line 3 or 25 to Helstraat or Sarphatiapark. (“as you get off tram 25, turn away from Sarphia Park and these are the buildings you are looking for”)
Cab: 11-15 Euro from Central Station.
Walk: at least 45 minutes from Central Station.

Prices quoted to me: 1/2 hour is 50 Euros, 1 hour 75 Euros; I was there at 6pm. Prices reported elsewhere vary from my experience, may depend on time of day etc. Shower was not in the room I got, but in the hall, shared; I’ve heard some rooms have a shower or hot tub at extra charge. My basement room smelled somewhat of sulfur (like a hot spring, but not bad).

When you ring the door bell, you are greeted at the door by the hostess. She will seat you in a room and tell you prices. The girls come into the room, shake your hand, introduce themselves. You choose one, she takes you to a room, you pay her, and she goes to get you a drink. My experience was a friendly conversation with a local girl, followed by sex, for the one hour I asked for. There were but two girls to choose from when I visited at 6pm; others have reported more at later times. It’s not clear how many others were in already session; at least one was. See also my report on “Sarah” (coming soon).

I visited Park 118 recently around 6pm on a Saturday (for more info see my recent posting). Only two ladies were introduced, both apparently local Dutch girls. I don't know how many rooms they have, or how many were already in use - perhaps they were busy, but it didn't seem so.

Sarah was a long tall drink of water, a willowy blonde in blue jeans that she seemed to be poured into. Her face was neither beautiful nor hard to look at, and her relaxed smile made her charming - a regular Dutch girl who grew up in Amsterdam. Very slim, but not skinny. Nice shape. Healthy. While she is not largely endowed, I found her very attractive, so I opted for a leisurely hour for E75. (As is often the case, the hour was up when the main event and my shower was over, about 10 minutes short but it was ok since I was satisfied.)

We chatted for awhile to start. Comfortable and friendly. She told me she had just arrived for work, and had not had a chance to change into her working clothes - a short skirt. I think I would have liked her more the way I found her, and told her so. It seemed that she could have used a shower, which I didn't tell her, but perhaps should have; she smelled a bit sweaty but not dirty. BTW showers are solo because the stall is too small for two to get clean, and there was no shower in the room, so you have to wear a robe.)

Sarah was friendly but not GFE. Cuddling and some kissing on lips was ok but not DFK, which she said was "too intimate". She allowed me to undress and caress her - fun given the tight jeans. I enjoyed touching her in a lot of places (in front, but not in back, which I didn't try, I sensed it would not be welcome).

She didn't rush me (after paying for an hour I would have been unhappy if she had), and gave one of the nicest CBJs I've ever had: tight attention paid to the little fireman's helmet with her lips, although he wasn't ready to put out the fire, so we moved on. After several positions, I just wasn't going to pop, despite the pleasure involved (would have been better if she had used a bit of KY, I should have asked). I asked her to finish me with her hand - which she offered to do without the condom, and which she did very well.

Overall I was satisfied with Park 118 and pleased with Sarah. The place seems relaxed. Sarah works there because she chooses to work there to supplement the income from her regular job. My experience seems to be in line with what others have reported in past postings, and thank-you gentlemen, for telling me about this place.

Visit to Walletjes, Park 118, SamePlace and Paradise

Haven't been able to post this report from Amsterdam from the beginning of the month . Spent 3 nights and each night planned a different sort of adventure. I love this town; there's a great vibe and excitement from the people who have this great attitude towards other people and a live and a live and let live attitude which is always refereshing to experience again. This is all besides that it's genuinely one of the most culturally rich and beautiful cities in the world, and has one of the best nightlife scenes anywhere. I love coming back to Am-dam and luckily I recently had 2 biz trips there within a month. On one of them I was free all 3 evenings so I had a chance to once again enjoy some of the pleasures that Am-dam has to offer.

The plan: Tues.evening – smokes with my local bud, followed by an RLD choice.
Weds. Evening - Park 118 followed by SamePlace swingers bar.
Thurs. – gang bang night at Paradise.

RLD – Guys, the secret to a good RLD experience, like all other transactions, is research. I've been there many times and unless you're a glutton for punishment and don't mind lackluster service, you can't go in there, walk aimlessly and expect to have a sublime experience. The sheer quantity together with the generally poor circumstances to chose a partner and have the right rapport instantly is impossible without getting for yourself a headstart-
Follow the discussion and rating system on ignatz's authoritative site and you can't go wrong. It includes maps, reviews from previous punters and excellent descriptions. Having enjoyed an occasional Polish woman, I chose the luscious Anna, a buxom Polish women with fabulous attitude and curves that never end. When I arrived at her kamer the curtain was drawn – smoked and waited with 2 other guys who it turned are regular customers. Not wanting to wait outside for 2 more session, I started to check my notes on my PDA for an alternative. When the door opened and she saw the line , she asked who was first. When she heard my English I realized that I was a "tourist" she asked where I had heard of her. After I told her and mentioned the name of one of her recommenders, she asked the other guys if they minded letting me in first "because I had a plane to catch" !!! I loved it, the humor, the attitude, and the grabs of flesh. Promised her 180 for 1 hour and 300 for 2 if she decided that she wanted me to stay for the extra hour.
Her body is heaven on earth, lots of places to get lost in and she loves to have fun. We rolled around for awhile and somehow ( must have been the hash) I lasted for a half hour of this… talked about my trip to Warsaw a couple for years ago and when I told her that I had Polish ancestors she began telling "Polack "jokes. We spoke for awhile and she began to see if I was ready for more – I was. Altogether a fabulous time for almost 2 hours, yet when I began to pay her she insisted that I only pay for the 1st hour. I'll be a return customer. Highly recommended and definitely my best RLD experience ever.

Park 118 at Sarphatipark – I've found this over the years to be the most consistently good house, clean well maintained facility and at 70EUR an hour, perhaps the best value on the western side of the continent. Picked a dark beauty from Curacao and I'm embarrassed to admit, I can't remember her name. Good session beginning with sensual back rub that I gave her.. The sight of her raising her tight ass and keeping it there in the air so that I could gain access underneath, will remain with me for awhile.

SamePlace – swingers bar. My first time there and good thing that I took a cab to get there. Nice people running it and the concept is neat, relying on the audience getting wild and dirty with each other but on the night that I was there, 2 couples were there , and 5 single men and nothing happening. Task: try it again on a weekend.

Paradise – Been there done that and all that but the idea of a group of wild wives mixed with pros raises the blood level and engorges all sorts of organs. My previous Thurs. night there almost 2 years ago fulfilled the promise. This time, promise aside the realization of the promise seems harder to deliver on. Paradise is one of the best equipped clubs of its type with lots of rooms, swimming pool, saunas, couches, bar, TV room etc. It has everything , but like SamePlace, and any other venue like this needs the right type of audience participating. This night there were about 12 couples, but most there to observe and not actually get into it, 3 very unattractive pros, and about 20 men. Some of the couples went off by themselves, The women half of the one German couple was the life of the party dirty dancing and making herself available. I popped her and the only one of the pros who wasn't totally repulsive to me. I don't understand the management – and I've seen similar things at some of the German clubs – it's not like there's a shortage of women in Am-dam in the business. If they would pay the price for reasonably attractive women to participate in the gang bang, they would probably bring in 50 more guys and more couples. Sadly what should be an insanely erotic experience, really leaves a bad taste (pun intended).

Iseeu,

You are right about the Paradise Club. It is a nice place and for the most part well kept. When I was there the working pros were nothing to brag about. One would think with all the hot looking trim in Amsterdam there would be some better pickings to hire. Maybe its management’s way of keeping costs down, nevertheless with the experience I had there, I would rather spend the 50 Euro in a kamer.

Joecaddy.....

Hey Iseeu,

What a great report on Ansterdam. I was glad to see somoene make a report on some of the swingers clubs there. I'll be traveling there on the 26th and looking forward to my first trip.

My wife was there two years ago and took time to go to Paradise and insists that we go back so I can enjoy it as much as she did. She had no idea it was gang bang night but she only had one night free to enjoy the herself so she took full advantage of it.

I'll be there the whole week and she will be joining me on Friday night so we'll probably hit it on Saturday night when it will be the busiest. I'll make a concerted effort to explore the club and patrons in detail so I can post a good report upon my return.

I was surprised to read your comment on the working girls in the club. I'd think they would be up against a lot of competition.

Also, I noticed you mentioned some German clubs. I was over at the German forum and chased down a few links but they were all in German. Needless to say I didn't get a whole lot of information from them. If you have the time, could you email me some information on a good swingers club, massage parlor or bars that are good for picking up some girls. Anything you care to share would be appreciated.

Carpe diem,

Randy

Houston,
Saturday is couples only night at Paradise, so there's less of a gang bang atmosphere and more real swinging. BTW on Fri. night, Candy Club, another local club has a similar night with 7-8 pros. On these nights the pros are what attract the hordes of men as they are a sure thing and f*ck anyone who wants to, so it's not like there's actually any competition. Most of the couples on these nights come for the atmosphere and not so much to play.
Actually, the locals say that Showboat which is just outside of the city has a better scene than Paradise right now on Sat.night so you may want to consider that. I haven''t been there on a Sat. night. Both have excellent facilities. BTW in Holland outside of the city are some fabulous clubs including one that is perhaps the best in Europe, Kastel Waterloo, which is as its name applies in a huge mansion.
I'd love to join you on the 26th, and I could be in Am-dam that weekend but without my significant other.
If you have a PM account here I can send you some info on German clubs including perhaps the best of them all - Beverly in Solingen.

Hi guys,

I'll be back in Amsterdam next week and wanted to try one of the Parenclubs since I've never seen any of them. Do any of you know if one can attend on couples night only with an escort? Suppose the atmosphere will be nicer then on gang bang nights with pros.

Have any of you ever been at Club Paradise on Friday without a lady? Would be great to hear from you or have a drink somewhere if someone would like to join.

Have fun,

Krauti

Krauti, Yes I have gone to Paradise with an escort and there's no problem if she plays along. But you'll end up paying this girl so that someone else can f*ck her and unless you're rolling in the dough that makes no sense. IMHO go insyead to Showboat on Sat.nite- they let single men in.
Enjoy.

Iseeu,

Thanks for your quick reply. Quite right you are, if I pay her I might just as well be doing her instead of the rest of the building, haha.

What would you recommend, Paradise on Thursday or the Showboat on Saturday? Since I would have to rely on public transport it may be a little harder to get to the showboat.

Anyway, in case you're around and keen on a drink or so let me know. Would be great to meet some locals.

Krauti

Krauti,
1) I'm not local, just lucky enough to visit this terrific city on the average 5-6 times a year. But I'm still always keen on a drink.
2) I would not go again to Paradise on a thursday night until they get decent looking and positive attitude pros.
3) You can get to Showboat via public transportation from Am-dam. Or go to the club's website, and get the contact info for their in-house car service which will pick you up from anywhere in AM-dam and take you straight to the club - just remember to tip the driver.

Isseu

Thanks again for your help, I shall give it a try.

Have fun mate

Krauti

Hey Isseu,

I see that you get around on these various forums as I do.

I have been to Paradise club one time on a Thursday. Not for the faint of heart or shy folks. The girls are quite rough, not sure how the management figures that men will actually show up in large numbers to stand in line to fuck a 5 or 6. The scene is worth seeing once,, no more IMHO.. After visiting the FKK's, I don't have the same intial phobias about seeing people fucking around in public not to mention showering with both guys an gals while people casually walk by.

You were at World FKK the night I was there last month? I am trying to picture you but my memory is fading fast. Just got back from a Mexican Mongering trip to Nogales. Its just a short two hour drive from Phoenix. Nothing like the FKK clubs but when its easy, I am in.

Doei,

Lanrac, aka Carnal1

Lanrac- I'm shocked. I thought I was unfrogettable. then again you were f*cking your brains out for a couple of days and coupled with the tequill probably fried your brain. I had been in touch with Tarl before that night. Anyway check your PM for more identifiers.

I agree about Paradise. It' s off my todo list until they fix up that part of their business. Am-dam has plenty of other diversions. No need to gross out.

I'm in FRA this week. I plan on checking out Palace but there's a big show in the Messe, so i may pass on the FKK scene. Can't believe I said that.

Your gonna pass just because the Messe, Too many punters to deal with I guess. Go to PHG instead, you can take the train to Duisburg in a short 1 hr trip and then taxi over.

Good luck,

NO FKK,

Your right, unbelievable

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Lanrac,
Tried but couldn't stay away. Palace was packed, I had to park 3 blocks away. As I walked into the club at 12:10 a.m., about 15 other guys were walking in. Turned around and 20 minutes later I was at my old favorite, Oase, which maintains its classy A league status. Will report later in the appropriate spot.