Berlin

Feeling a little settled and started venturing out.

After a few beers headed over to Club 53 on Danziger Strasse.

Was looking for a place similar to bon bon club where I remember having many a fun evenings few years ago. Basically was looking for a fun bar with the option to go to back room. This place was close to home.

Quite a letdown. 2 girls plus bartender watching TV when I walked I around 11ish.

The Thai girl there offered FS for 60 Euro¢ but only CBJ.

Totally dead place. Had a courtesy beer (5 Euro) and left.

Walked down the street to Maison the, envie and got buzzed.

My first time at a german bordello so didn't know what to expect.

Was a pleasant experience though.

I was shown into a room and the girls came one by one and introduced themselves.

Choose Betty who could speak a little English. Website has pics. Pretty accurate. Age claims may not be accurate. Older.

40 Euros for 20mins plus 10 extra for BBJ.

Was not rushed till then end when time was really up I guess.

Overall, satisfied.

Until next weekend,

Cheers

[QUOTE=Dick1; 1447390]I had an experience with street girls recently. I was touring around Kurfurstenstrasse and saw a very lovely lady. She had a perfect ass and she said 70euros for a trip to a nearby hotel. This included the room, a soft drink and blowjob.

Fucking would cost 180 Euro. The lady was nice and although I felt that the price was a little high (many girls in the area takes only 20 E) I was happy.

There was no nonsense and a clear agreement was completed. I have talked to the girls in Oranienburg strasse, and here is the same price for BJ.

They say openly that fucking is much more expensive. Does anyone have experience with BJ with the girls here without feeling cheated?[/QUOTE]Only stupid tourist's get ripped of like this. Same shit in oranienburgstrasse, the also give fake BJ with they hands and cover with theyr head. And they don't let you touch the hair etc. Just google and read.

What place would you recommend for a first timer who wants a clean, safe place with good service in a nice neigbourhood.

Since its my first time I will be nervous so I would like preferbly good service with understanding girls. Something discrete and safe is also important.

With my research its seems for me that Kamilla Dee is my best shot, or what are your thoughts?

And should I take a full hour so that I don't get stressed if I'm not able to perform from start.

[QUOTE=James Dean 2; 1448500]Feeling a little settled and started venturing out.

After a few beers headed over to Club 53 on Danziger Strasse.

Walked down the street to Maison the, envie and got buzzed.

Until next weekend,

Cheers[/QUOTE]I am unclear what you meant by Maison. Could you add more info.

Thanks.

Rick

[QUOTE=AmericanSlang; 1448747]What place would you recommend for a first timer who wants a clean, safe place with good service in a nice neigbourhood.

Since its my first time I will be nervous so I would like preferbly good service with understanding girls. Something discrete and safe is also important.

With my research its seems for me that Kamilla Dee is my best shot, or what are your thoughts?

And should I take a full hour so that I don't get stressed if I'm not able to perform from start.[/QUOTE]Kamilla la Dee is certainly a good choice for a first-timer. Every time I've been there, I've been well looked after. It's very clean, in a safe (boring) neighbourhood and they are very discreet. You won't meet another punter there. Check out their web site; if a girl catches your eye you can make an appointment. Otherwise, just turn up and you should have a good selection of girls in the line up. The only downside is that BBBJ is not on offer.

I've had good sessions recently with Luna (large-breasted Australian girl)

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/luna.htm[/url]

And Theresa, a slim German, good with a strap-on dildo.

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/theresa.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=AmericanSlang; 1448747]What place would you recommend for a first timer who wants a clean, safe place with good service in a nice neigbourhood.

Since its my first time I will be nervous so I would like preferbly good service with understanding girls. Something discrete and safe is also important.

With my research its seems for me that Kamilla Dee is my best shot, or what are your thoughts?

And should I take a full hour so that I don't get stressed if I'm not able to perform from start.[/QUOTE]BerliBrit said it all. I will just add that if you go there you should take note of the adresses of VanKampen and Royal, they are very close to KDee, similar places, and if for some reason you are not satisfied with the lineup you will have alternatives without loosing time.

Ciao

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1448891]BerliBrit said it all. I will just add that if you go there you should take note of the adresses of VanKampen and Royal, they are very close to KDee, similar places, and if for some reason you are not satisfied with the lineup you will have alternatives without loosing time.

Ciao[/QUOTE]Thank you Kimino (and BerlinBrit) for your thoughts. Its not so easy for a shy Swedish guy to get a grip of all things when the selection of places it so large.

About not having BBBJs at Kamilla is a plus for me. Makes me even more comfortable for a first time at a brothel. I will be in Berlin Thursday to Saturday next week (25-27th). After KD maybe I will try Royal or even if I feel for it go to Artemis.

Two more questions:

1) Since I want to be as discrete as possible (at least the first time) I am considering going already when things open at 10am (when I assume less people on the streets compared to later in the afternoon, even thou I plan (if all goes well) go back later the same day.) But is this a stupid idea? Is the lineup real lousy that time, the girls might not even almost started. So might there be only 1 available?

2) How does it work with the "doorbell"/buzzer? Do you normally get buzzed in straight away or could you get standing there for several minutes until you get in? Don't like standing there on display more than necessary. And do the person how lets you in talk in the speaker or do you just get buzzed in?

Thanks for the help!

[QUOTE]=AmericanSlang: What place would you recommend for a first timer who wants a clean, safe place with good service in a nice neigbourhood. Since its my first time I will be nervous so I would like preferbly good service with understanding girls[/QUOTE]I think BerlinBrit's suggestion of a German Girl with a Strap on Dildo might be both stretching (ha ha) your sense of good service, and probably not the wisest way to calm your nerves. Luna appears to be off on holidays.

KD is a good place to start and Kimino's suggestions are also good. I would take van Kampen over Royal. Not knowing your taste in women, recommendations a bit difficult, but Nathalie at Kamilla Dee, or Paris or Holly at vK would be good choices, all speak a bit of English, and all really good in the patient service and general niceness depts. You did not mention how soon you plan to do all this. It is summer and it would be good to phone ahead just to see who is on, on a given day. Explain your needs and wishes. Just bear in mind all this might take a bit of running around, and in general, a slightly older, more experienced and settled girl vs some 20 yr old profit driven spinner will more likely give the understanding and service you seek.

The alternative is Artemis. Very very chilled out and relaxed (discrete) at the moment, you have all the time in the world to chat and size up ladies vs the quick parade at the bordellos, relax at pool and sauna, the staff are used to newbies, and as long as you take it slow, it has some advantages. More choices, you can easily talk with a girl for 1/2 hour for free and then, things go not so hot, you are only out Eur 60 for a 30 minute session but still have spent an hour with a girl, so less performance pressure. The costs of a 1 hr session with various extras at a private bordello will be only slightly less than 2x 30 min sessions with 2 girls at Artemis, not including all the food, drink, and wellness facilities, even with the 80 EUR entrance fee. As it is so quiet at the moment, it is a rather discrete location.

If you are around Wed-Thurs this week, very likely that Kimino, possibly even the late recently departed Angus, and I will be poolside starting mid / late afternoon. You are welcome to come over, introduce yourself, and we could steer you possibly in some useful ways. Our general level of idiocy has been known to calm nerves. We might even wear strap-on ourselves but facing rearwards just confuse things a bit.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1448910]I think BerlinBrit's suggestion of a German Girl with a Strap on Dildo might be both stretching (ha ha) your sense of good service, and probably not the wisest way to calm your nerves.

KD is a good place to start and Kimino's suggestions are also good. I would take van Kampen over Royal. Not knowing your taste in women, recommendations a bit difficult, but Nathalie at Kamilla Dee, or Paris or Holly at vK would be good choices, all speak a bit of English, and all really good in the patient service and general niceness depts. You did not mention how soon you plan to do all this. It is summer and it would be good to phone ahead just to see who is on, on a given day. Explain your needs and wishes.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your answer.

To reply on the taste. Well, as in only 5'2" (160) tall (or well really short) I tend to like women that are not too tall. So generally I like the somewhat more petite type. Like Cat, Lea or Betty on KDs site. I have a budget of around 400€ so I might do KD several times or also to Artemis. I'm not ugly but also not the "girlfavourite" (as one I might know be my being pretty tiny) so its been quite a while since I had sex. Really not a virgin (had a couple of longterm relationships) but still not that experienced. My worry is that ill come very fast. And then what? Is it a general policy that you have a second go during the hour if you come in like 10 minutes and have 50 minutes left?

[QUOTE=Medong;1448148]I'm in Berlin this weekend and saw on Kamilla dee website that Klio will be working so I wounder if someone can recomend her?[/QUOTE]Sorry, this answer is probably too late now.

See Internationalsexguide's archive :

Probably the first post about Klio is :

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/archive/index.php/t-668-p-4.html?[/url]

See : 08-08-08, 09:46.

[QUOTE=AmericanSlang;1448912]Is it a general policy that you have a second go during the hour if you come in like 10 minutes and have 50 minutes left?[/QUOTE]Ok-so all the women I mentioned are indeed tall so you probably can forget all that. The policy on multiple pops varies and you will just have to ask but in general you should be able to.

However, the counter argument would be Artemis would allow "free" chats of easily 20-30 minutes and then you could just take a short session, and even if you pop early, you can always extend if the spirit moves. By spending effectively an hour with a girl but paying for only 30 min, and without having to pay extras as at Arts kissing and BBBJ are included (though you must ask on the former to be sure) , over time, you would be getting more bang for the buck and could actually be with more girls. Just to use your numbers-at a bordello a 45 min session with extras is easily EUR 120-150, an hour 150-170. So on your budget that is about 3 girls. At Artemis, your budget could could buy 1 day + 5 girls x 30 min (EUR 60 each) sessions, or 2 days and 2-3 sessions per day. Or you could vary the pace and extend a session if things were great. Plus all the wellness and food/drink stuff. Lots more options. Or surely if you have time - 1 day at Artemis to just get back in the swing of things, next day one session at KD, or van Kampen, Liberty (another good option value wise), Royal, etc.

You do seem to be putting yourself under some pressure. The whole chill scene and lower consequences (a so so session means you've blown 60 EUR vs 150ish in a bordello) at Artemis might really be the way forward and help you relax because everything is just a lot more slowed down. Taking your time to get to know a girl, feeling out the vibe, being able to just walk away if the mood isn't right, are big advantages vs the quick decision needed at a bordello. Pool and sauna, lounge chairs, massage if you want etc. There are plenty of petit playmates playing at the poon palace and the new wing with its private rooms really a discrete option, away from the circus.

Just be aware that Artemis is at full strength at about 8pm although you can obviously start much earlier and still find some options. There are just lots more a bit later-say starting around 6pm. If you do go the bordello route, call ahead so you are not wasting hours waiting. Their web pages, especially in summer, are no guarantee that anyone is actually there at a given set of hours that suit you.

[QUOTE=AmericanSlang; 1448912]Thanks for your answer.

To reply on the taste. Well, as in only 5'2" (160) tall (or well really short) I tend to like women that are not too tall. So generally I like the somewhat more petite type. Like Cat, Lea or Betty on KDs site. I have a budget of around 400€ so I might do KD several times or also to Artemis.[/QUOTE]Ciao AmericanSlang.

I think RB is absolutely right on.

If you are a bit anxious and under pressure, Artemis might really be the best option. You can get there, relax, just look around for hours before you make any decision, stay by the pool, enjoy your time. The weather should be great this week.

For sure some girls will come up to you to propose their services but saying "not now, later" is not so difficult and it's part of the game. You will have all the time to decide which is the girl that better matches your tastes.

In a normal bordello things happen more quickly. You get in, enter a room, have the available girls come in one by one telling their name, and then you have to make a decision (leaving is an option obviously). This could put some pressure on you, and normally you don't have the time to chat with th egirl and ask anything.

Regarding the BJ, at Artemis you can choose if you want it covered or not. Standard is uncovered but if you want it covered you just tell the girl once you are in the room. Some girls even ask you.

As RB was saying, some of us will be there for sure both wed and th, so if you want some stupid chat while you look around, we are specialists. LOL.

But apart from meeting or not, I'm kind of sure it could be a good start, you can then decide to visit KD or other clubs the next day. If you still have money that is. LOL.

BTW. Don't worry about your look, your height, the color of your eyes, your sexual skills or anything, the girls don't care. Just be a gentleman with the girls.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1449090]Ciao AmericanSlang.

I think RB is absolutely right on.

If you are a bit anxious and under pressure, Artemis might really be the best option. You can get there, relax, just look around for hours before you make any decision, stay by the pool, enjoy your time. The weather should be great this week.[/QUOTE]Artemis was actually my first choice before starting reading about apartments. So I do think I might go there (on Saturday) if not other than just to see the place. But one thing is that I am actually, believe it or not haha. , going to Berlin mainly to do the tourist thing. The sex is only the icing on the cake. And I'm sure that if I'm going to do this there won't be many better chances to get it done. And with me going the tourist road (this time) I don't really plan more than about half a day of total "bordellotime" (including travel and all) so apertments being quick is in that way not a problem at all.

Thank you for all the advise!

[QUOTE=AmericanSlang; 1448912]. Etc.

If you come in like 10 minutes and have 50 minutes left?[/QUOTE][b]1) No problem with KD (and probably with other bordelloes) [/b]

Furthermore, because of its system of rates, you may start with 30 minutes and then (if the lady is still free of course) extend into 45 minutes. 60 min. 75 min. Etc.

With salon-prestige, based on its price system, I think you may start with 20 minutes and extend 20 minutes by 20 minutes (probably even 10 minutes by 10 minutes too) , if the lady is still avalaible.

[b]2) Artemis. [/b]

I don't have many experiences in Artemis but I remember that the lady's (of course, it would certainly depend on ladies) behavior made me feel that the meeting was finished after my ejaculation ("RLD's spirit") : of course, in this case, (for a meeting shorter than 30 minutes,) I didn't pay for 60 minutes but for the whole 30 minutes.

[QUOTE=AmericanSlang; 1449094]Artemis was actually my first choice before starting reading about apartments. So I do think I might go there (on Saturday) if not other than just to see the place. But one thing is that I am actually, believe it or not haha. , going to Berlin mainly to do the tourist thing [/QUOTE]

Yea well everyone in Artemis says exactly the same thing-they are in Berlin for tourism. Even on their 3rd 15 hour shift. Anyway 3 things to bear in mind.

Weather forecast which could change of course but for the mo is talking about a super hot weekend. This is what we use-also because it has good radar maps and both hourly and 3 hour forecasts, essential when bicycling around [url]http://www.niederschlagsradar.de/wettervorhersage.aspx?view=Day&lat=52.45&lon=13.5333&p=1&c=germany[/url] It will put a bit of a damper on running around as we approach the end of the week.

Second-all this tourist stuff. Well you know, if you were really focussed it could be done in a day or so, so don't lose sight of the primary mission which is of course to get laid by hotties multiple times in an affordable fashion. Berlin's comparative advantage is most def in this dept.

Finally, unlike Artemis, the apartments will be definitely less full of girls on the weekend-just a different market. If you did want to at least go to KD or vK, go before end of Friday.

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