False Imprisonment at the Seoul hotel off Burgos
i would say that i am a moderately experienced mongerer having practiced the sport all over the world including some pretty rough spots in brazil and columbia. nevertheless, a few days ago i got myself into some trouble that could have turned very nasty. i let my guard down for a moment, didn't use common sense and didn't trust my instincts. here's the story:
i was walking down burgos street alone in broad daylight around 2:00 pm looking for a pedicure or a massage. i was an area of burgos that is about 1/2 mile from the entrance. this area of burgos has lots of japanese karaoke strip joints. as i am browsing, i am approached by a woman who asked me if i wanted a massage. she spoke good english, stood about 5' 8" and was somewhat nice but very talkative. her face had lots of pimples and dents where you could tell she generally had bad skin. she was not attractive and was very big for a pinay. i would guess she weighed about 200lbs.
the big woman tells me that she has a 8 girls who do massages with happy endings a little bit off the beaten path in a place called the seoul hotel which she informed me was owned by a korean. she told me that i could choose any of the girls that i liked to do the massage and she spent a lot of time trying to assure me that she wanted me to have good service so i could tell my friends about the place. i think this was all in an attempt to make me feel comfortable. since i was actually looking for a massage, i asked her the price and she said 500 pesos and it included everything. so thinking this might be a good deal, off we go about 1. 5 blocks off burgos street to the seoul hotel. the area looked a little rough but i could see it from burgos street, so i figured it was ok.
she tells me to give her the money because the place is normally for philippinos and they would charge more if they saw that i was american. this made sense to me so i give her the money and after talking with a woman at the desk, the big woman escorts me to the 4th floor where we go inside and she immediately tells me to take a shower. i tell her no thanks; i'll wait until she leaves the room before i take a shower. she insists but i still refuse, so she eventually leaves telling me to lock the door behind for my own safety. this was another red flag! i should have cut my losses and just left. i walk out into the hall and see very pretty girls going in and out of rooms so i assure myself that i am just over reacting.
the big woman returns a few minutes later with one girl. i asked where the others were and she replied that they were all busy. the girl she brought was actually very beautiful. she was tall about 5' 8", slender, and very pretty. i would say she was an 8. so i said, "i guess i'll take her. " then the big woman said, "ok great now take your shower." i replied, "i'll take a shower when you leave." to which she replied, "well. i'm waiting for my tip." i said, "tip? you said 500 pesos." so i'm thinking that this is the trick, use a cheap price to get customer's there and then ask for a large tip before services begin.
now i'm getting upset and starting to see where this going. so, i get up to head for the door and the big woman races to the door and steps in front of me. she say's, "don't you want to have sex with my girl for 2000 pesos?" i said, "hell no! i'm here for a massage" she replies that this girl is new and she feels uncomfortable leaving her with me and would like to watch as she is giving me the massage. i say, no! but she blocks the door. i grab her arm which was very toned and solid. when i grab her, she screams "don't hurt me!" very loud, she resists and i can tell she is very strong. now i'm thinking this is probably a man.
not wanting to make a big scene, i don't pressure to get out of the door. i did not want someone screaming "he's hurting me help" so i go to the other side of the room to decide what i would do next. she is still blocking the door and the pretty girl she brought in starts to get visibly upset. she says, "just let him go!" this made the big woman very angry and she stands up and starts screaming at the pretty girl in tagalog. i thought for a minute that they would come to blows.
now i just want to get the hell out there without making a fuss so i tell her that i do not need any service and that i am just going to leave. the big woman says give me 2000 pesos and you can leave. i replied, "i'll give you ass kicking if you don't move." she replies, "if you hurt me i will scream and my friends will come."
i said, "i'm not giving you another dime, i don't trust you and all you will do is keep asking for more money" she replied, "ok i'll make you a deal, if you have sex with me and my girl then i will let you go" she approaches me and places my hand on her breast and i immediately draw back. she is offended and says, "ok then we will wait."
i calculate that the more time we wait the greater the chance is that this is going to turn ugly. the only thing that kept me from giving her my backwards flying elbow to the face was the risk that i would not knock her out cold. there would be blood and screams and if she really did have friends in the hotel, i would have a great challenge trying to escape down 4 flights of stairs and then out into the street unrep001hed. i still didn't know for sure if she was girl or a guy. what if the cops thought i assaulted a woman? i could imagine the men on the street being upset that an american guy just beat down a pinay female. i could see headlines in america about a guy traveling for sex tourism who get arrested for beating up a prostitute so, she had the upper hand and i think it is best to try to resolve this silently.
we negotiate for a while and i eventually get her to promise to release me quietly for an additional 1500 pesos. i hated to give in. it hurt my pride and challenged my manhood but i figured that it would be much smarter to lose 55 us dollars than take a chance on something that might cost me many thousands of dollars or possible my life.
the agreement was that she would open the door before i gave her the money. this time she did open the door and i held the money high in my hand until i was out in the hall. i dropped the 1000 peso note and then walked briskly out of the place. i survived only having lost about 55 us dollars.
she was probably bluffing about her friends. probably a two person operation with her and the girl. i think the initial 500 pesos was for her to rent the room and that there probably were legitamate operations going in in the same hotel. however, i didn't want to take the chance and i did not want t o have to fight what could have been a female.
so a word to the wise, be careful out there. don't be stupid like me. this can be a dangerous game. trust your instincts.
The Underbelly Of Mongering
[quote=mrlowdown]i would say that i am a moderately experienced mongerer having practiced the sport all over the world including some pretty rough spots in brazil and columbia. nevertheless, a few days ago i got myself into some trouble that could have turned very nasty. i let my guard down for a moment, didn't use common sense and didn't trust my instincts. here's the story:
i was walking down burgos street alone in broad daylight around 2:00 pm looking for a pedicure or a massage. i was an area of burgos that is about 1/2 mile from the entrance. this area of burgos has lots of japanese karaoke strip joints. as i am browsing, i am approached by a woman who asked me if i wanted a massage. she spoke good english, stood about 5' 8" and was somewhat nice but very talkative. her face had lots of pimples and dents where you could tell she generally had bad skin. she was not attractive and was very big for a pinay. i would guess she weighed about 200lbs.
the big woman tells me that she has a 8 girls who do massages with happy endings a little bit off the beaten path in a place called the seoul hotel which she informed me was owned by a korean. she told me that i could choose any of the girls that i liked to do the massage and she spent a lot of time trying to assure me that she wanted me to have good service so i could tell my friends about the place. i think this was all in an attempt to make me feel comfortable. since i was actually looking for a massage, i asked her the price and she said 500 pesos and it included everything. so thinking this might be a good deal, off we go about 1. 5 blocks off burgos street to the seoul hotel. the area looked a little rough but i could see it from burgos street, so i figured it was ok.
she tells me to give her the money because the place is normally for philippinos and they would charge more if they saw that i was american. this made sense to me so i give her the money and after talking with a woman at the desk, the big woman escorts me to the 4th floor where we go inside and she immediately tells me to take a shower. i tell her no thanks; i'll wait until she leaves the room before i take a shower. she insists but i still refuse, so she eventually leaves telling me to lock the door behind for my own safety. this was another red flag! i should have cut my losses and just left. i walk out into the hall and see very pretty girls going in and out of rooms so i assure myself that i am just over reacting.
the big woman returns a few minutes later with one girl. i asked where the others were and she replied that they were all busy. the girl she brought was actually very beautiful. she was tall about 5' 8", slender, and very pretty. i would say she was an 8. so i said, "i guess i'll take her. " then the big woman said, "ok great now take your shower." i replied, "i'll take a shower when you leave." to which she replied, "well. i'm waiting for my tip." i said, "tip? you said 500 pesos." so i'm thinking that this is the trick, use a cheap price to get customer's there and then ask for a large tip before services begin.
now i'm getting upset and starting to see where this going. so, i get up to head for the door and the big woman races to the door and steps in front of me. she say's, "don't you want to have sex with my girl for 2000 pesos?" i said, "hell no! i'm here for a massage" she replies that this girl is new and she feels uncomfortable leaving her with me and would like to watch as she is giving me the massage. i say, no! but she blocks the door. i grab her arm which was very toned and solid. when i grab her, she screams "don't hurt me!" very loud, she resists and i can tell she is very strong. now i'm thinking this is probably a man.
not wanting to make a big scene, i don't pressure to get out of the door. i did not want someone screaming "he's hurting me help" so i go to the other side of the room to decide what i would do next. she is still blocking the door and the pretty girl she brought in starts to get visibly upset. she says, "just let him go!" this made the big woman very angry and she stands up and starts screaming at the pretty girl in tagalog. i thought for a minute that they would come to blows.
now i just want to get the hell out there without making a fuss so i tell her that i do not need any service and that i am just going to leave. the big woman says give me 2000 pesos and you can leave. i replied, "i'll give you ass kicking if you don't move." she replies, "if you hurt me i will scream and my friends will come."
i said, "i'm not giving you another dime, i don't trust you and all you will do is keep asking for more money" she replied, "ok i'll make you a deal, if you have sex with me and my girl then i will let you go" she approaches me and places my hand on her breast and i immediately draw back. she is offended and says, "ok then we will wait."
i calculate that the more time we wait the greater the chance is that this is going to turn ugly. the only thing that kept me from giving her my backwards flying elbow to the face was the risk that i would not knock her out cold. there would be blood and screams and if she really did have friends in the hotel, i would have a great challenge trying to escape down 4 flights of stairs and then out into the street unrep001hed. i still didn't know for sure if she was girl or a guy. what if the cops thought i assaulted a woman? i could imagine the men on the street being upset that an american guy just beat down a pinay female. i could see headlines in america about a guy traveling for sex tourism who get arrested for beating up a prostitute so, she had the upper hand and i think it is best to try to resolve this silently.
we negotiate for a while and i eventually get her to promise to release me quietly for an additional 1500 pesos. i hated to give in. it hurt my pride and challenged my manhood but i figured that it would be much smarter to lose 55 us dollars than take a chance on something that might cost me many thousands of dollars or possible my life.
the agreement was that she would open the door before i gave her the money. this time she did open the door and i held the money high in my hand until i was out in the hall. i dropped the 1000 peso note and then walked briskly out of the place. i survived only having lost about 55 us dollars.
she was probably bluffing about her friends. probably a two person operation with her and the girl. i think the initial 500 pesos was for her to rent the room and that there probably were legitamate operations going in in the same hotel. however, i didn't want to take the chance and i did not want t o have to fight what could have been a female.
so a word to the wise, be careful out there. don't be stupid like me. this can be a dangerous game. trust your instincts.[/quote]i think you handled the situation well.
man that's one hell of a story. thanks for posting it. i love reports like this that expose the seedy underbelly of mongering. i have been lucky all these years. never been in a jam, even running around various countries with thousands of dollars on my person. never lost a wallet or had to scream for help as some pseudo experts.
re: False Imprisonment at the Seoul hotel off Burgos
Thanks for your story. I have been tempted to take some of the massage girls up on their massage on Burgos but haven't done so. I believe the ones in uniform are legit, where I'm a little apprehensive in taking some just freelancing on their own as their are a lot of ladyboys around Burgos St. I probably wouldn't have gone with the person you described, but the way it went down gives me some heads up on possible ongoings over there in the future.
