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[QUOTE=Arcangel;2286560]That means Colombia is not much different from any other country. You and I both probably have HSV-1 and HSV-2. As the Wikipedia article shows, these virus are very common.[/QUOTE]You're right about HSV-1. The majority of people have it in most (but not all) countries. Where a large percentage of genital herpes is HSV-1, low HSV-2 incidence rates don't tell you much. However, in most parts of the world, most genital herpes is HSV-2. I think the 57% HSV-2 incidence rate in women in Colombia versus the 4% HSV-2 incidence in women in Spain is significant, as is the 5% HSV-2 incidence rate in women in the UK and Isreal, and 13% incidence rate in women in Canada. When in countries with a high incidence rate, like Colombia, more caution may be advisable: See my reports in the Safe Sex forum. On the other hand, if you've already got genital herpes or get it in the future and decide to look for a long-term relationship, a country like Colombia where most women already have the same STI you have might be your best place to look.

I guess you should stay home.

Or use two condoms.

[QUOTE=ParamAhmad;2287165]You're right about HSV-1. The majority of people have it in most (but not all) countries. Where a large percentage of genital herpes is HSV-1, low HSV-2 incidence rates don't tell you much. However, in most parts of the world, most genital herpes is HSV-2. I think the 57% HSV-2 incidence rate in women in Colombia versus the 4% HSV-2 incidence in women in Spain is significant, as is the 5% HSV-2 incidence rate in women in the UK and Isreal, and 13% incidence rate in women in Canada. When in countries with a high incidence rate, like Colombia, more caution may be advisable: See my reports in the Safe Sex forum. On the other hand, if you've already got genital herpes or get it in the future and decide to look for a long-term relationship, a country like Colombia where most women already have the same STI you have might be your best place to look.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2285719]In Medellin you can usually find some gringos hanging out at Patrick's. They also cluster at the Parque Lleras Juan Valdez.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info.

I actually found a another good bar that I like to hang – out at, and I will recommend this place as being worth a visit.

Philly Sports Bar it's on the ground floor of the San Peter Apartment building in Laureles.

Bill the expat owner and his sidekick chef Victor are excellent hosts.

I've written about this before and have shared these thoughts with a few others who appreciated them. I was reading through some old messages this morning and realized unreasonable expectations is what started the current row in the stupid shit thread.

My first visit to a restaurant in Colombia, a little place in Bogota, near Parque 93, left me frustrated. Simply put, I expected to receive US restaurant service in Colombia. As everyone knows, service in Colombia is much different. I expected a waiter to check on me 4 minutes after handing me the menu, and every 5 minutes after that. As you already know, that ain't happening.

It took me several days to adjust. When I did, I learned something. The waiters and waitresses were being polite, by Colombian standards. To interrupt someone with a mouthful of food, just to ask a basic question is rude.

When we're traveling, especially to common mongering destinations, it's easy to treat it just like home. At home, nobody is going to show up 90 minutes late without any effort to inform you of the delay. At home, the cashiers keep the lines moving. Waiters swoop down on you every 5 minutes. If you let them, these things can ruin your day. Even worse, these things are unavoidable.

No matter where you go, or what you do in Colombia, you're going to have interactions with the locals. That's why most of us go there. I've listened to several guys gripe about how annoying it can be dealing with Colombians. My response is, "stop expecting them to be north Americans."

You can yell all you want at the girl who showed up late, or who didn't tell you she was on her period, but it won't change anything, except for your mood. She's going to be late for the next guy. Screaming at the cashier or waitress won't accomplish anything either. Neither will complaining about them to me.

I'm almost always going to side with the Colombian. They are just being Colombian. If your dog shits in the wrong spot, I'm on the dog's side. To him, it smelled like the right place to shit. He's just following his instincts. It's not right or wrong, it's just different. There are things you can't change.

How you handle all the situations that come up is your decision. However, if you accept that these things are inevitable, you can learn to work around them or to deal with them without letting them affect your mood.

The Paisas are going to be the same next week, next month and next year.

Does anybody know of a similar site but a Colombian version. Feel free to PM me. I am not disturbing sh_t here. I pay for this site and like it, but need a more well-rounded view.

THANKS!

[QUOTE=ParamAhmad;2286231][URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_herpes_simplex[/URL]

According to this Wikipedia article, 57% of women in Colombia are seropositive for HSV-2, suggesting 57% of women in Colombia have genital herpes. However, also according to this article, 89% (men and women) in Colombia are seropositive for HSV-1 (which is elsewhere said to be responsible for the [U]majority[/U] of genital herpes in some parts of the world).[/QUOTE]50-80% of the WORLD's population have HSV-1. There are no countries that are exceptional on either end of the spectrum.

There's NO WAY 57% of Colombian women have HSV-2, because I assure you if the rate were that high, I'd be positive too after all the fucking I've done here.

Please don't use Wikipedia as a legit source of scientific data.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2289777]I've written about this before and have shared these thoughts with a few others who appreciated them. I was reading through some old messages this morning and realized unreasonable expectations is what started the current row in the stupid shit thread.

My first visit to a restaurant in Colombia, a little place in Bogota, near Parque 93, left me frustrated. Simply put, I expected to receive US restaurant service in Colombia. As everyone knows, service in Colombia is much different. I expected a waiter to check on me 4 minutes after handing me the menu, and every 5 minutes after that. As you already know, that ain't happening.

It took me several days to adjust. When I did, I learned something. The waiters and waitresses were being polite, by Colombian standards. To interrupt someone with a mouthful of food, just to ask a basic question is rude.

When we're traveling, especially to common mongering destinations, it's easy to treat it just like home. At home, nobody is going to show up 90 minutes late without any effort to inform you of the delay. At home, the cashiers keep the lines moving. Waiters swoop down on you every 5 minutes. If you let them, these things can ruin your day. Even worse, these things are unavoidable.

No matter where you go, or what you do in Colombia, you're going to have interactions with the locals. That's why most of us go there. I've listened to several guys gripe about how annoying it can be dealing with Colombians. My response is, "stop expecting them to be north Americans."

You can yell all you want at the girl who showed up late, or who didn't tell you she was on her period, but it won't change anything, except for your mood. She's going to be late for the next guy. Screaming at the cashier or waitress won't accomplish anything either. Neither will complaining about them to me.

I'm almost always going to side with the Colombian. They are just being Colombian. If your dog shits in the wrong spot, I'm on the dog's side. To him, it smelled like the right place to shit. He's just following his instincts. It's not right or wrong, it's just different. There are things you can't change.

How you handle all the situations that come up is your decision. However, if you accept that these things are inevitable, you can learn to work around them or to deal with them without letting them affect your mood.

The Paisas are going to be the same next week, next month and next year.[/QUOTE]In general, I agree with you, with the exception of lateness. Lateness should NEVER be tolerated.

If a girl is late, it's because she dgaf. When I've had women really into me, they have been as punctual as anybody in North America is.

[QUOTE=MjTravelLove;2289999]Does anybody know of a similar site but a Colombian version.[/QUOTE][URL]doncolombia.com[/URL]

My sincere thank you!

[QUOTE=Arcangel;2290114][URL]doncolombia.com[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2290060]In general, I agree with you, with the exception of lateness. Lateness should NEVER be tolerated.

If a girl is late, it's because she dgaf. When I've had women really into me, they have been as punctual as anybody in North America is.[/QUOTE]My point is that you're not going to change it, especially with first time girls. Usually they will be late. You can cancel, or cuss her out, but it's not going to change.

My experience has been, the girls who I have the best time with are more likely to be punctual. The ones who are habitually late, seem to be weak in the sack. If I'm really interested in giving her a try, I'll give a bigger window. If she's just in the middle of the scale for me, I shrink the window and give her an ultimatum.

But there's always the chance of something coming up. If it's raining hard, chances are you're out of luck in Medellin. Especially if she lives up in the hills. One extremely dependable girl cancelled because her mother couldn't make it up to their house until the rain stopped. Nobody to watch the kids until she got home.

My vacation attitude is to be relaxed. I don't want to create a bunch of stress every day over things I can't change. I make allowances. If I need to take a detour, I enjoy the change of scenery instead of griping about taking a different route.

I found out there is an App that works like Uber in Colombia. It is called 'beat'. I downloaded it to my iphone and used it. Very similar to Uber. Apparently it costs a bit less than Uber.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2290516]My point is that you're not going to change it, especially with first time girls. Usually they will be late. You can cancel, or cuss her out, but it's not going to change.

My experience has been, the girls who I have the best time with are more likely to be punctual. The ones who are habitually late, seem to be weak in the sack. If I'm really interested in giving her a try, I'll give a bigger window. If she's just in the middle of the scale for me, I shrink the window and give her an ultimatum.

But there's always the chance of something coming up. If it's raining hard, chances are you're out of luck in Medellin. Especially if she lives up in the hills. One extremely dependable girl cancelled because her mother couldn't make it up to their house until the rain stopped. Nobody to watch the kids until she got home.

My vacation attitude is to be relaxed. I don't want to create a bunch of stress every day over things I can't change. I make allowances. If I need to take a detour, I enjoy the change of scenery instead of griping about taking a different route.[/QUOTE]That's my whole point. Instead of stressing about it, just write a girl off if she's more than half an hour late without a good reason and you'll enjoy yourself a lot more. You're probably dodging a bullet, as you also kindly pointed out.

Of course, if she calls and says she's two blocks from where you're staying and wants to fuck for free, your call.

[QUOTE=Sun08;2292322]I found out there is an App that works like Uber in Colombia. It is called 'beat'. I downloaded it to my iphone and used it. Very similar to Uber. Apparently it costs a bit less than Uber.[/QUOTE]Beat is good; a lot of my friends use it. It takes longer to get a car sometimes but it is quite a bit cheaper.

There's also Picap for the really intrepid. They send you a MOTORCYCLE that picks you up.

Do any of you guys tip hotel housekeepers in Colombia? They seem so surprised when I do it.

Latina angeR.

One Latina I've been speaking to online seems pretty mad at me and said she didn't want to talk to me again. Did nothing wrong. Just couldn't do something she wanted on time so created a fuss. She Seems really nice and don't want to lose her over something so stupid. Should I just wait and hope she texts back? I think maybe I'm blocked but it was random.