Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2660534]And, despite the ladydrink commission only thing that you correctly cited, if a girl working in or around any bars or on the street is notably above average in looks and not a rip off in bed, she is definitely not hurting for customers or money these days.

A few of my favorite repeats from pre Covid days returned to Bangkok from their provinces a few weeks ago and I can assure you a couple of them can get the kind of dudes who are here now to happily pay 2,500+ for ST twice or more per day and night, require a condom for everything including DFK if they feel like it and ladydrink commission only conditions or problems are not a factor in their lives.[/QUOTE]This is 100% true.

I have also noticed that girls with "notably above average looks" attitudes or priorities have changed since covid. I think they are less interested in volume and more interested in repeating with regular customers or going with first time customers that appeal to them. They are alot more choosey in who they go with. Before covid it was all about how much cash they could make, after covid they seem to be more interested in a decent lifestyle.

[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2660644]This is 100% true.

I have also noticed that girls with "notably above average looks" attitudes or priorities have changed since covid. I think they are less interested in volume and more interested in repeating with regular customers or going with first time customers that appeal to them. They are alot more choosey in who they go with. Before covid it was all about how much cash they could make, after covid they seem to be more interested in a decent lifestyle.[/QUOTE]Yes. And I have also gotten the impression that they are quite comfortable with this 100 baht per lady drink commission thing just for easy pocket change for street food snacks and so on, free and easy come and go anytime and any night at any bar or no bar at all, show up as they please or not at all, wearing whatever street clothes they had fun shopping for with all that money or bought for them by customers in addition to their regular support, not having to display their butts and boobs with or without a bikini for hours on stage every night and they don't miss the monthly salary and pressure to meet any quota for anything one bit.

It might be difficult to get many of these girls, new arrivals as well as veterans, back to the old ways if or when this Covid thing ever fades into the manageable background.

[QUOTE=Bernikle;2660592]Many thanks for these links. Has anyone used these websites?

How it's working? Do we meet the girl in her place? Has anyone managed to contact the girl directly? So far I'm talking on "Line" with bots and "admins" of girls. I am also aware that the reality may not match the photos.

Thanks in advance for the hints.[/QUOTE]I suggest that you read this thread, there is a lot of information here as you go back in time.

[QUOTE=Bernikle;2660592]Many thanks for these links. Has anyone used these websites?
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How it's working? Do we meet the girl in her place? Has anyone managed to contact the girl directly? So far I'm talking on "Line" with bots and "admins" of girls. I am also aware that the reality may not match the photos.

Thanks in advance for the hints.[/QUOTE]This was the most detailed overview of those sites I'd read here by someone who apparently uses them a lot.

See Post #50588 here:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2617944[/URL]#post2617944.

My own brief experience with 2-3 of them was chatting on Line with who I realized was never the actual girl whose profile included that Line info, of course, but instead some clerk, pimp or manager who offered nothing of value to me in terms of deciding to book an appointment with the girl or not.

And, frankly, if the assessment of the Thai "sexpert" in the linked post is correct, I would be wasting my time, travel and let's say 1,500 baht at a minimum if among the deadly sins deserving blackballing, getting banned for life or, worse, getting plagued by bait and switch scams going forward are so much as trying for BBFS or submitting a negative review on a girl even if no way she delivered a claimed service such as a genuine BBBJ+CIM or in fact if she herself was actually a disappointing bait and switch lady who showed up in the room after you'd paid in full upfront.

I am sure there must be some cases that turn out well. But I was not tempted to go for it based on those Line chats and overviews I've read here even if 1 in 20 of the girls I met through those sites turned out to be physically lovely. So what, if all those other restrictions and warnings to be a very well behaved boy with little or no expectation of delivery as advertised applying after paying upfront. I can be denied real sex with hotties for a lot less time and effort than that. LOL.

[QUOTE=Downandup;2660730]I suggest that you read this thread, there is a lot of information here as you go back in time.[/QUOTE]Or read the thread in the Sideline Girls link I provided just 3 or so posts from the one he quoted. GaijinGigolo just took the links from that thread and posted them on this thread.

Or read some post's Racshack is posting on Sideline Girls http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2617944#post2617944

Hi guys,

Are hotels that were girl friendly before covid still girl friendly now? E. G Marriott in Bangkok was guest friendly so has anyone had any issues bringing a girl back to guest friendly hotel since covid?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=HornyDude353;2660828]Are hotels that were girl friendly before covid still girl friendly now? E. G Marriott in Bangkok was guest friendly so has anyone had any issues bringing a girl back to guest friendly hotel since covid?
[/QUOTE]I'll take an educated guess that the answer is yes as long as you book a room for 2. If you really want to be certain call or email the hotel before you book. Hotels will tell you.

Question for oldtimers from a BKK first timer. How quiet is Bangkok during and after Songkran? I will be arriving at that time this year (booked uncancelable tickets without realizing). Obviously in a non-Covid year would we expect things to be back up to speed by Saturday or Monday, or is it a whole week or more written off? I'm thinking in terms of both P4P, freebies if I can get them and other tourist stuff in to do in Bangkok as well as whether legit restaurants and bars shut down. They say Songkran celebrations are worth seeing too, but perhaps not for a whole week if everything else is closed.

[QUOTE=HornyDude353;2660828]Hi guys,

Are hotels that were girl friendly before covid still girl friendly now? E. G Marriott in Bangkok was guest friendly so has anyone had any issues bringing a girl back to guest friendly hotel since covid?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I was in Thailand last November (Phuket (2 places), Koh Samui, Chiang Rai (2 places) and, if anything, they became even less strict on "joiners". The only thing that got religiously checked was the girl's vaccine status. Most hotels are desperate for guests, so if you book a room for two, they don't object. Booking a room for two isn't more expensive than a room for one, unless you take the breakfast option.

Quality advice, I've had these online bait and switch all over, especially places like Budapest, Kiev and Bangkok, but that is part of the fun of this game.

For every 10 online random I tried in Hungary only 2 were even close to the profile. Had better luck in the pubs overall. Bangkok is a bit of fun though.

The fiwfans reviews I've tried out (following supposedly top ranked players) have been more bait and switch then random picks.

I'm going with instinct, tineye and a modicum of saying WTF from now on.

YMMV and hopefully your luck as well.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;2619005]Once upon a time there was a snake oil salesman.

Honestly, it should not come as a surprise. A decade ago we were discussing how photoshopped escorts were on the websites or how when you would show up at an oily the girls on the cards were so heavily retouched that they no longer resembled the lady in the flesh.

It's always been this way. Now with the online world opening up and the ability to post reviews, it also should not be a surprise to see fake reviews to boost the girls or the shop.

Some hotels in the west do it on their Tripadvisor page so why wouldn't these shops do it?

This is the very reason we have forums like this one, to share genuine photos, reviews, opinions on places and girls.

My preference when I go to a place is to see the girls in a lineup, in the flesh, that way not only do you see the girls in the flesh but also their mood of the day. If the girl looks at her feet and avoids eye contact, you know she's not going to give you what you're after.[/QUOTE]

I realise that the gogo bars of Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza are operating very differently at the moment but my question is, are they still worth visiting? If there is a plentiful supply of pretty girls I can forgive the lack of dancing and semi-nudity!

It's seven years since I visited Thailand last (I made the rookie mistake of getting in to a relationship) and previously I always enjoyed visiting the likes of Nataree, Annies and Mango in Bangkok. Is there any positive news on the massage parlour front or are they all still closed?

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2660999]I realise that the gogo bars of Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza are operating very differently at the moment but my question is, are they still worth visiting?.[/QUOTE]After going to both last night the answer I would give you is. No.

[QUOTE=TourduMonde;2660870]Question for oldtimers from a BKK first timer. How quiet is Bangkok during and after Songkran? I will be arriving at that time this year (booked uncancelable tickets without realizing). Obviously in a non-Covid year would we expect things to be back up to speed by Saturday or Monday, or is it a whole week or more written off? I'm thinking in terms of both P4P, freebies if I can get them and other tourist stuff in to do in Bangkok as well as whether legit restaurants and bars shut down. They say Songkran celebrations are worth seeing too, but perhaps not for a whole week if everything else is closed.[/QUOTE]I doubt there will be any typical Songkran celebrations this year in terms of concert or festival gatherings and, thank god, water gun fights on the street. They were banned over the past couple of years due to Covid. Things are a little more open and relaxed now, but I don't think it will be all masks off and drench everyone in sight with ice water time in just 2 months from now.

Songkran isn't an event or time when restaurants, shops, bars and so on close. Everything should be open as usual. However, most bargirls these days being free to come and go without concern about salary issues. It is hard to say how many might see that week as a good time to return to their province to hang out with family and childhood friends. Unless they get word that Bangkok will see a notable influx of tourists and customers like you, that is.

[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2660335]I think you are right, I believe all the big Gentlmans clubs have all been closed since the big Delta surge which was allegedly started in the G Clubs around ThongLo namely the Krystal Club and Emerald Club.

For anybody that complains about the prices in Nana etc. These clubs are on another level. Prices so high will make your nose bleed![/QUOTE]Are they really that high? If you split it with a group it doesn't seem that bad? But I’d be tempted to meet outside the club which seems hit or miss.

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2660999]I realise that the gogo bars of Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza are operating very differently at the moment but my question is, are they still worth visiting? If there is a plentiful supply of pretty girls I can forgive the lack of dancing and semi-nudity!

It's seven years since I visited Thailand last (I made the rookie mistake of getting in to a relationship) and previously I always enjoyed visiting the likes of Nataree, Annies and Mango in Bangkok. Is there any positive news on the massage parlour front or are they all still closed?[/QUOTE]In a word, "Yes", the Soi Cowboy and Nana bar areas are still worth visiting. As of this writing. As of just last night. However, the quality and number of girls can vary wildly from night to night, hour to hour. The same as the with the bars and girls on Soi 7, Soi 8, Soi 11 and just about everywhere else in the lower Sukhumvit area. Not sure about the Patpong area since it has been a few weeks since I cruised through there.

I am not really a massage shop guy, but I do see many Happy Ending style massage shops with girls and sometimes ladyboys waiting outside open all over the area.

BTW, on that topic, a Brief Trip Report: On a whim and having a spare afternoon, I stopped by the legendary Tulip in Thong Lo a few days ago. There were maybe 8-10 girls in the line up. I took one that smiled at me and was at least slim and well proportioned.

It was an ok 1 hour experience in a basic, dreary room. Wound up getting an acceptable BBBJ+CIM that I feel I over paid for at 1,900 baht for that hour. No big deal. I understand this is the high water mark standard shop for supposedly PSE sessions in Bangkok. Been hearing and reading that for years, I mean. This was my second time there in 9 years. I can only report that in my experience it was a PSE only if the porn you're used to watching has girls presenting, discussing, debating, requiring and insisting that her partner wear a condom for FS or no sex. It might be another 9 years before I bother to return for a third such PSE.