Rio de Janeiro Reports

A friend invited me to the opening of the bar in old Quebra Mar. I did not go, but I can confirm such a bar did actually open. Let us hope it will continue.

At least it is at the very end of Barra da Tijuca, a little separate from all. But still too close to classy upper class housing. And of course, with my apartment being near old Help, I will be away from Point Zero then.


[QUOTE=Java Man]A poster currently in Rio, stated on another board:
"its more like a Boite setup with over 60 to 70 girls that come from all over the termas in Centro the talent its awesome great, and they are also building a dance hall too. They guy that owns 4x4 is the owner of the new spot. I heard the dance hall should be ready next month. And of course you have to negogiate with the girls if you want an all nighter with her. Overall it was an ok place to begin with." and:

"Piere Lounge its like another Barbarellas, with alot of termas girls going there after work, you can negogiate a 200 reais all night. and this is the address of Pier Lounge Av.Do Pepe #40 Barra da Tijuca."

Per Google Maps, that address was formerly Quebrar-Mar Boate & Restaurant. It is NOT close to Copa:

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_enUS347US347&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Av.Do+Pepe+%2340+Barra+da+Tijuca,+RJ,+BR&fb=1&gl=us&hnear=Chicago,+IL&cid=0,0,7472577379671164418&ei=TmKETOWHBISAnwe66bxf&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQnwIwAA[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dutch44]Hi Helprules and others,

It depends. That would be my answer. I am not such a fan of the Termas anymore. I have been to a few (in Rio) and 4x4 is the one I visit once, every time I am in Rio. But just once. Termas are not the best deal IMO. I do not understand why they have gotten so expensive. In a country like Germany, where the average wages are 3x to 10x that of the Brazilians, a german FKK offers MUCH better value for money. Really MUCH MUCH better. Believe me, I know. For 50 Euro entrance (Düsseldorf/Köln area) you get free drinks, food and entrance ALL day. 1 hour in a (nice and clean) room, with an lady of your choice (stunner can be found), can often be arranged for Euro 75.

IMHO if you have an apartment in Rio, the best deal are the escorts. Besides the obvious ones (Karla and Scort which will cost you some 150-170 for 2 hours including taxi) there are some really good ones where nice ladies (7-9 score) will stay 2 hours for 250 R$. I know no place in Europe or the USA which offers anything close to this. I think Brazil still offers the best there.

For instance this one is not bad: [url]www.vipgoldrj.com[/url]. There are plenty others like that in Rio.

I personally think that spending 2 hours in my apartment with a very nice and good looking 22 year old (as I have met from such agencies) is a great deal.

Dutch44[/QUOTE]

Be careful about unknown escort sites. Most are cheats

[url]http://www.gpguia.net/devphp/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=77306[/url]

Most likely all the photos are fake, stolen elsewhere. Now maybe the agency happens to have good girls anyway, as reported by gpguia, but most likely it is not the girls that are on the photos.

Pricing: yes, pricing went through the roof. If I did not know cheap cheap places in Rio, I might feel compelled to go to Germany or Pattaya for cheaper sex.

[QUOTE=Christopherd]Obviously something worth keeping our eye on. But Barra is a hellishly long way out. Going to Niteroi and back is less hassle. Either are more like 'nearby towns.'[/QUOTE]


16km from Posto 5 to Av Pepe. Not so far!

[QUOTE=Beach Star]16km from Posto 5 to Av Pepe. Not so far![/QUOTE]
Do you do it a lot?? In traffic, of which there can be plenty at the wrong time, that can be hours. And Barra is not a place you just stroll around. It stretches for feet-achingly distances further than the eye can imagine like one big American Shopping Mall connected by fast moving traffic (fast moving till you try to get in or out that is.) I don't know how well you know it, so am not being cheeky - just want to highlight ground level in case anyone is planning it and hasn't been. The other option (rather from Sul) is to take the freeways from near Vila Mimosa when you want to go upmarket lol. They go past some 'scenic' badlands. ;)

[QUOTE=Brazil Specialist]Be careful about unknown escort sites. Most are cheats

[url]http://www.gpguia.net/devphp/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=77306[/url]

Most likely all the photos are fake, stolen elsewhere. Now maybe the agency happens to have good girls anyway, as reported by gpguia, but most likely it is not the girls that are on the photos.

Pricing: yes, pricing went through the roof. If I did not know cheap cheap places in Rio, I might feel compelled to go to Germany or Pattaya for cheaper sex.[/QUOTE]Due to work I have been spending some time in Peru. I have had some amazing good luck in Lima. The expense is not and issue for me (my wife can spend more shopping in London or Paris in an afternoon than I can spend in Rio for a week). Lima is at least half the price of Rio for all services.

[QUOTE=Christopherd]Do you do it a lot?? In traffic, of which there can be plenty at the wrong time, that can be hours. And Barra is not a place you just stroll around. It stretches for feet-achingly distances further than the eye can imagine like one big American Shopping Mall connected by fast moving traffic (fast moving till you try to get in or out that is.) I don't know how well you know it, so am not being cheeky - just want to highlight ground level in case anyone is planning it and hasn't been. The other option (rather from Sul) is to take the freeways from near Vila Mimosa when you want to go upmarket lol. They go past some 'scenic' badlands. ;)[/QUOTE]


Yes I know Barra very well, in fact I often stay there. Av Pepe is on the beach right at the beginning of Barra and I would say after 9 at night you would comfortably get from Copa in 30/40 mins. In fact any time except for rush hours you can get from Copa in that sort of time. This new place they are talking about (I haven't yet been there ) is just down the road from Cafe400, a conventional termas but there is no need for taking your clothes off (Av Pepe 400)

Should you want to further afield in Barra you need transport, you are right, it's no place for strolling around. If you are based in Barra, say somewhere around the Sheraton, then you are a short cab ride from most places you would want to go, and public transport is good, but of course it is a different experience from what most on here are used to.

In Barra there are several other termas and massage type places, a lot of shopping centers and some very good restaurantes. The beach is, imo, much better than elsewhere in Rio. It is the safest place also, imo.

[QUOTE=Golfinho]corner of Siq. Campos and Bar. Ribeiro, in the Apart-Hotel building, 2nd and 3rd floors. due to disc issue, I find these places. on 3rd floor, just to right at top of escalator. also: there are some good ones to be found that are provided by Japanese, traditional style in Zona Sul. (also in this building, there is a place to get your travel 'shots'. fast and easy, no appointments)[/QUOTE]
Checked out this place today. The vaccination place is still there and that is worth knowing. As for the rest, basically there are many vacancies in the mall now, probably 50% of shops are vacant. I didn't see any massage places open, there was one acupuncture place, but getting a needle stuck in my ear lobe was not really what I was looking for. Thanks for the note though, seemed promising.

I will check out Spertos massage with a happy ending places in Centro soon.

[quote=bubba boy]checked out this place today. the vaccination place is still there and that is worth knowing. as for the rest, basically there are many vacancies in the mall now, probably 50% of shops are vacant. i didn't see any massage places open, there was one acupuncture place, but getting a needle stuck in my ear lobe was not really what i was looking for. thanks for the note though, seemed promising.

i will check out spertos massage with a happy ending places in centro soon.[/quote]closed? was just there in the spring: loja 304. phone is (was) 2255-5318. if they're gone, can give you my therapist's cell. far as i know, she doesn't stick needles (or anything else) in your ear. as for the so-called health travel place: they don't have the yellow international cards. you'll need to supply your own. otherwise, they're ok.

[QUOTE=Java Man]
"Piere Lounge its like another Barbarellas, with alot of termas girls going there after work, you can negogiate a 200 reais all night. and this is the address of Pier Lounge Av.Do Pepe #40 Barra da Tijuca."

Per Google Maps, that address was formerly Quebrar-Mar Boate & Restaurant. It is NOT close to Copa:

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_enUS347US347&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Av.Do+Pepe+%2340+Barra+da+Tijuca,+RJ,+BR&fb=1&gl=us&hnear=Chicago,+IL&cid=0,0,7472577379671164418&ei=TmKETOWHBISAnwe66bxf&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQnwIwAA[/url][/QUOTE]


I cant see terma girls going all the way out to barra da tijuca after they get off of work. That means the pplace wont get hopping until 1-1:30AM!!

[quote=golfinho]closed? was just there in the spring: loja 304. phone is (was) 2255-5318. if they're gone, can give you my therapist's cell. far as i know, she doesn't stick needles (or anything else) in your ear. as for the so-called health travel place: they don't have the yellow international cards. you'll need to supply your own. otherwise, they're ok.[/quote]

spring last year? i think spring is just about to start in rio next week?

i will go and check there wednesday, there is a public holiday tomorrow, hence maybe a lot of shops appeared to be closed today to make the "4 day weekend", which is common when there is a public holiday wednesday.

Went to 4x4 tonight, I remember somebody complaining that the receptionists at 4x4 do not give correct change. Well 2 weeks ago I was shorted R$3, I kind of was annoyed but said nothing. I always check my change in Brazil.

Tonight, I am already pissed before reaching the reception to check out because the locker attendant comes over and asks for a "caixinha" a tip, has a bit of paper already to write it down. This practise is what really shits me about Centaurus. If I want to give a tip I will if the service is good or some other extra service was provided, just giving out R$ to everyone in Brazil with a hand out is just nuts, no Brazilians do that shit. I have zero problem now saying firmly no to these requests and letting them know very firmly that I do not appreciate this request.

Anyway, get to the reception, the bill is R$265, I hand over $300, I get R$25 in change. I was so ready for them, was actually waiting for them to try and fuck me I picked it up straight away. I look around to speak to the manager who is nearly always sitting on the chairs in front of the reception - usually has a cap. As luck would not have it he is not there. Hence, I just blasted the receptionists, all 3 of them. Fuck I was pissed. They are systematically thieving change from people.

To top the night off, as I am leaving the security guy outside asks for a tip. I let him know exactly what I thought of his request, blasted him as well.

I won't be going back to 4x4 for a while, if I do the first thing I will do is find the manager and have a chat to him.

The receptionists at 4x4 can go fuck themselves........nothing but thieving pieces of shit!

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]Spring last year? I think spring is just about to start in Rio next week?

I will go and check there wednesday, there is a public holiday tomorrow, hence maybe a lot of shops appeared to be closed today to make the "4 day weekend", which is common when there is a public holiday wednesday.[/QUOTE]That would be Spring this year. not so hard to follow a calendar. used a Japanese a while back through an ad posted in the Posto 6 weekly. was good -- for shiatsu and traditional. was offered the acupuncture (small, small little 'needles', more like lancets) but declined.

[QUOTE=Golfinho]That would be Spring this year. not so hard to follow a calendar. [/QUOTE]

Spring starts in Brazil around Sept 20 this year, hence there has been no spring this year in Brazil. You must be referring to spring in your country?

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]...

I won't be going back to 4x4 for a while, if I do the first thing I will do is find the manager and have a chat to him....[/QUOTE]

I wish you to go there back asap and to have a successfull chat with manager.

If 10 reais to girl of lockers, to receptionist and guy doorman outside, in 10 times at 4x4 you give out 300 reais....

Couple of times the guy outside got almost angry when I did not tip him, too bad ! If this guy take tip daily from every gringo going to 4x4, think how much he can earn in one single month just from tips !

Moreover why only guy outside 4x4 asks all the times for tips, when guys outside for example at Montecarlo, L'uomo and Solarium never did it once ?!?

The same, woman of lockers of 4x4 is the one asking tips, where in the other termas girls of lockers do not ask.

That's the common sport at 4x4 is asking tips, is a thing the manager at 4x4 should definetely know ... imho !

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy]Spring starts in Brazil around Sept 20 this year, hence there has been no spring this year in Brazil. You must be referring to spring in your country?[/QUOTE]I was. Sorry about that. September to 2nd week in December not my favorite time to be in Rio. Likely true for a lot of people as see Continental flights at $740 roundtrip from EWR though.