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What a storm in a teacup."Americans went to Colombia and had sex for pay with Colombianas". Americans of all ages and careers have been bedding chicas from less sex-starved destinations for centuries with the occurrence of many more serious incidents. Why this one has achieved the coverage it has is a mystery to me. It would be interesting to know.
Thanks, guys, for all this local information. It helps me understand what the current Secret Service flap is all about. I've never been to Colombia, but will certainly put it on my list!
-J
[QUOTE=Manizales911;1269443]In a universe that an individual officer hasn't been exposed to a Cartagena, Colombian prostitute. Anybody that has been to Cartagena knows that some of the prepagos working the bars and streets in that city can come on as just a pretty face to someone that has never been there. Cartagena isn't Pattaya, Thailand or Sosua, DR where ALL the girls are openly selling their wares, some (not all) of the girls in Cartagena try to fly under the radar. It happened to me on my first trip to the city, I met a girl in a bar and I honestly did not know she was a h00ker. Fortunately I was with someone who lived there and he straightened me out on what was going on. I think there is a very good possibility that this what happened because of the city in which it happened.[/QUOTE]I would also like to add that Secret Service guys easily get laid in the States with there good looks and prestigious job. Unfortunately, that does not mean they are familiar with the social nuances of women in foreign cities. When the director realized the use of prostitutes was prevalent among his men, he was left with no choice but to recall all the agents and not compromise the security of the President. This poor guy probably stood up for what he thought was right, not realizing the gigantic clusterfuck he was creating.
Come on guys who are we kidding. These guys are secret service agents. It is their business to do "Secret Service." You are not only fooling yourself but you are just wanting to be plain ignorant. I don't understand your thinking process.
This happens all the time. If some one wants to think this way through then you can surely come to conclusion that this report only gives the Secret Service Agents a bad name but also does many other things which I have no reason to elaborate on this board as it can and will be only argumentative.
Think. Think. And Think some more before giving the US SECRET SERVICE the benefit of doubt on this or any other matter.
Regards,
John.
[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1269481]I would also like to add that Secret Service guys easily get laid in the States with there good looks and prestigious job. Unfortunately, that does not mean they are familiar with the social nuances of women in foreign cities. When the director realized the use of prostitutes was prevalent among his men, he was left with no choice but to recall all the agents and not compromise the security of the President. This poor guy probably stood up for what he thought was right, not realizing the gigantic clusterfuck he was creating.[/QUOTE]
Just a thought from the fearless leader of home land security. He stated that is "compromised the security of the president". I guess getting layed at night and off work is a going to lead to some potentially bad problems. The guy wasn't there yet and I don't think they would be talking to the chicas about the itinary of the president. It just made to much noise so they panicked and called them home. After all with a stiff dick, you know how the mouth will talk. What we needed was a few senators or congressman there and then see what happens.
[QUOTE=John; 1269516]Come on guys who are we kidding. These guys are secret service agents. It is their business to do "Secret Service." You are not only fooling yourself but you are just wanting to be plain ignorant. I don't understand your thinking process.
This happens all the time. If some one wants to think this way through then you can surely come to conclusion that this report only gives the Secret Service Agents a bad name but also does many other things which I have no reason to elaborate on this board as it can and will be only argumentative.
Think. Think. And Think some more before giving the US SECRET SERVICE the benefit of doubt on this or any other matter.
Regards,
John.[/QUOTE]So what your saying is that a Secret Service agent of incredible credibility decided to cheat a working girl or are you saying this chicka conspired to scandalize the secret service. So much easier to believe that love led a man down a foolish road.
[QUOTE=Helpmann; 1269390]This makes no fucking sense!
In what universe is a government intelligence officer unable to positively identify a prostitute?
-Helpmann.[/QUOTE]Agree. The only ones that are saying that are ISG members. None of the news outlets ever said that it was a casual one night stand that went bad.
It is humorous to try and guess what might have happened, speculate, agree or contradict but at the end of the day most of us would have to agree that this is bad news for those that like to monger in Colombia and try to do it under the radar.
I blame the assholes at the hotel management squarely for this."Disputes" can happen unexpectedly and sometimes you can't control them. The guy did not beat her up or was violent. It was a disputed bill for crying out loud. The hotel management should know how to handle it and they had no reason to start checking the registrations of other guests. How ridiculous is that? The guys manning the desk at night let them in and the guy during the day obviously got pissed and took it out on the guests. If they were going to be so prissy about it, they should have not let them in the night before. What a cluster fuck.
I feel bad for the SS agent. My sympathies are with him.
Chicas were supposedly from Pleyboy Club. 7-9 guys there. Arguement over how much one was charging in the morning, has happened to many, including myself. Proabably shouldn't have been a big deal, just press looking for anything to get print. Please, met some of these guys plus DEA and FBI that are stationed in Cartagena (lots there, look at the bldg) , most were good guys, like to get laid (La Dolce often) some assholes, probably like this forum. That was years ago when I opened Loco Gringo Cafe and was probably looking for a reason they were wrong, per my other life. One friend tells me that he can't go to Cartagena anymore because noone will believe he was fishing, Please, take the pussy out of Colombia and how many would go there? For the beaches? Medellin countryside? GOD save Colombian pussy.
[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1269571]Chicas were supposedly from Pleyboy Club. 7-9 guys there. Arguement over how much one was charging in the morning, has happened to many, including myself.[/QUOTE]If that's the case, than the guy is a complete idiot for not negotiating his girl before services. What fool does that? Even if he got himself a really rotten one, you always have to be prepared to take the short end of the stick in the hobby.
Now congress is going to investigate the whole thing. The agents were at Hotel Caribe and it is not a chica friendly Hotel.
[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1269585]If that's the case, than the guy is a complete idiot for not negotiating his girl before services. What fool does that? Even if he got himself a really rotten one, you always have to be prepared to take the short end of the stick in the hobby.[/QUOTE]He got the short and long end, probably suprised too. They were staying at the Caribe, chica has to leave her cedula at the front desk until leaving. Guys I know did takeout there (Pleyboy) last month. 100+ takeout fee and 160+ for chica, that is some expensive Colombian pussy, even before he got busted.
They made it so damn hard we have to leave the country to hobby somwhere and when you busted with a hoe all your day is fucked. L love it when these people are busted, police, secrect service agent, fBI and of them. Can, t get no action, cus the police have clean out the streets and don, t have money to travel somewhere too
Many on the board are very easily giving the benefit of the doubt to the Secret Service Agents. What I am clearly saying is that it is their business to know that in Cartagena their are working girls all over.
Come on it is not like just one guy got lucky that night. All 12 of them got lucky. That is just not possible that all 12 of them didn't know what they were getting into.
I think it can be clearly thought that from this day onwards any body wanting to travel to Colombia at least for next one to two years will not be able to make lame excuses about why they are planning to go to Colombia.
LOL. More chicks for us non US residents.
Regards,
John.
[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1269524]So what your saying is that a Secret Service agent of incredible credibility decided to cheat a working girl or are you saying this chicka conspired to scandalize the secret service. So much easier to believe that love led a man down a foolish road.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1269481]I would also like to add that Secret Service guys easily get laid in the States with there good looks and prestigious job. Unfortunately, that does not mean they are familiar with the social nuances of women in foreign cities. When the director realized the use of prostitutes was prevalent among his men, he was left with no choice but to recall all the agents and not compromise the security of the President. This poor guy probably stood up for what he thought was right, not realizing the gigantic clusterfuck he was creating.[/QUOTE]Sport fucking compromises the El Presedente? Give me a break! Would anyone in the Western world give even a rat's ass if the Presidential agents of any world leader were getting laid while off duty? Of course not. What this has generated on this thread is a defense, or at least attempted observations of the mental processes of the agents, followed by an explanation of the perceived just result arising from the event. Frankly, the hypocritical responses are disappointing but obvious.
Why hasn't the administration simply said that the sexual lives of the Secret Service agents while off duty is of no concern of the President. A strong argument can be made that sex makes one happy, and the President deserves to have happy people protecting him. I'm damn sure not going on the record to suggest that fucking ever endangered anyone. Man, throw off and reject the Puritan influence in America. Come out of the closet, support the secret service, support our fellow mongers (they learned the hard way that there's no free pussy) , and stop trying to justify any harm to them for doing what we all do.
But, maybe I'm wrong. I didn't understand that secret service agents took an oath of celibacy. Maybe it's the puta involvement that triggered the outrage. Some of you guys sound like "them." You'll fuck'em, but agree with them being degraded. Well, fuck you!
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