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I agree that the quality to price ratio is more consistent in terms of looks than in terms of service, although it's certainly not a tight correlation. Service is much more important to me than looks, I will say that. Looks have to meet a minimum standard, and then I focus pretty much entirely on service. That was less true when I was younger.
[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;1942830]I guess ' cheap mongering' as I put it was used more in a comparative way to what I've blown (had fun doing it) in the FKK clubs and prices in the USA. I apologize for the confusion. I've set 100/150 as my baseline for nighttime carry out and it looks like that is easy where others have kindly suggested.
However, I am interested in finding out the upper end be it 200 or 300 or whatever it may be and see if it is worth the difference in price / service between the Habano's / Veneto girls. If you can pay 200-300 and the girl you get is say 2-4 notches higher than a 100/150 girl on a scale of 1-10 than I would entertain that option othwerwise I'm more than content with the usual stops mentioned in many posts here.
Hope that clarifies and sorry if my original post was confusing. Perhaps what I am getting at is the price point delta between places like LE Palace and Elite (both suggested below) vs the 100/150 at Habano's / Veneto worth the difference in the opinion of Panama's regular and seasoned punters?
Hope that clears things up, thanks guys. I am not a fan of TLN, the massage parlors or even taking these girls to dinner or hanging out but to each their own I fully respect we all have our ways of playing and there exists no right or wrong, better or worse as we captain our own ships. . For me it is take one home, finish, go grab another one an hour later. But, I will pay up for a hour+ if the girl is an absolute knockout stunner that the majority of men would rate an 8+ otherwise a buck or buck and a half for the 5-8 range is fine.
Thanks.
KC.[/QUOTE]With that attitude your pocket will get raped! Change that or pay big! $100 for a 10 should be what you pay MAX, if you like maybe $300 all night! Don't make things bad for everyone by paying more and emptying your own pocket!
If you don't adjust your mindset, they will [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] your pocket! Take this advice and don't let them take you for an ATM machine! $ don't equate to a quality experience with these chicas!
They just see an opportunity to dig for gold!
[QUOTE=TripAdvisor16;1943150]With that attitude your pocket will get raped! Change that or pay big! $100 for a 10 should be what you pay MAX, if you like maybe $300 all night! Don't make things bad for everyone by paying more and emptying your own pocket!
They just see an opportunity to dig for gold![/QUOTE]Perhaps your critisism is constructive in nature but this isn't my first rodeo.
I've seen plenty of Latin Americans, amongst a slew of other types of ladies in my life abroad and can hold my own. I actually find them (even the hot Columbian girls) very easy to negotiate with. Haven't been to Columbia yet (springtime) but they have been in just about every locale I have mongered in, even the FKK's. The Romanians are actually tougher, they toss curveballs and sinkers and sliders not just fastballs and underhanded softball pitches. The Columbians work all over the world. I'm not worried about my ATM card getting eaten alive, more woried about the mosquitos.
But one comment on prices, one guy paying $1, $10, $100 or $1,000,000 will not drive up prices however hundreds if not thousands of men paying more would. I am just one. So what I pay is irrelevant except to myself and the hooker. Every monger is their own boss, ' unions' don't exist and even the hookers who click together and promise not to budge always have several who will not conform and give in to the john.
That being said, I am interested in your ' 100 for a 10 being the max' one should pay comment. I can't imagine all the girls being 10's and if 100 seems to be one of the going rates +/- a few bucks for a Habano quality girl, does this mean I should pay no more than (please insert your suggested price here) for a girl who I consider a 5-8 ? Just curious.
If a 10 gets 100 than what is your price structure on the non 10's?
I would have said much the same thing to KK had I not remembered him from many years ago. It's true that Romanians are some of the shiftiest, and if he can handle them, he will probably be okay in PTY. And, since he won't be going to [B]Colombia[/B] for a while, he will have plenty of time to learn how to spell it correctly. Although, he'll probably spell it Kolombia, but that is better than Kolumbia. He has some very funny posts from México going back ten years or so.
This attitude, however, is complete horseshit and is what messed up Costa Rica: "one guy paying $1, $10, $100 or $1,000,000 will not drive up prices however hundreds if not thousands of men paying more would. I am just one. So what I pay is irrelevant except to myself and the hooker. " It is indeed relevant, and if you want to come down and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in the pond, you are on your own.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1943332]This attitude, however, is complete horseshit and is what messed up Costa Rica: "one guy paying $1, $10, $100 or $1,000,000 will not drive up prices however hundreds if not thousands of men paying more would. I am just one. So what I pay is irrelevant except to myself and the hooker. " It is indeed relevant, and if you want to come down and in the pond, you are on your own.[/QUOTE]I agree with you actually, the johns collectively screwed up Costa Rica. They paid up. And yes, I will get the spelling right for 'Kolombia ' ! What I really meant was if I go to PTY or anywhere and paid $1,000,000 myself alone would not force up prices as one single monger. However, if many mongers did such than yes, what happened in CR could happen anywhere. I think we actually agree. Glad you enjoyed some ancient MX posts, I dropped the 3rd person writing style and the ' K's as well in recent years. The CR and DR reports all dissapeared when another board went under.
Shifty is a great word you chose for the Romanians, first one I did started negotiating her tip with my dick in her mouth, they never lose focus of the Benjamin's, or Euros in their case.
I'm not looking to pay over market or outbid anyone, I am a cheap J** by nature, but I would pay up as in rent an Elite girl for an hour at market price if you got great quality AND you got great looks and it was market rate; like anything I don't want to pay more than I have to, I'd rather fly home with it and put it towards a RT ticket to Frankfort! Or Berlin, Artemis was my favorite.
Romania does not use the euro. Minus five. Similar to Poland, where I am now, they don't have their fiscal shit together enough to qualify to use it. Your credibility is eroding. I don't like Romanian women. Had enough of them in Spain. Polish women are fat. I was just in Latvia and there are a lot of hot women there.
But do you really want to fly to the capital of Kentucky? Are there good hookers in Kentucky? I thought everyone was strung out on heroin or Oxy.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1943346]Romania does not use the euro.[/QUOTE]No, they don't. But the Romanians you screw in the FKK clubs in Germany to which I was referring you do pay in Euros. They are Romanians getting paid in Germany. I was never in Romania. So, when I said the Romanians never took their minds off the Euros perhaps that was because they were getting paid in Euros by the johns there. Do I need to apply to get my 5 points back now or am I going to get -5 for another infraction of (k) redibility.
Latvia, guess they do breed beauties, I banged a beauty from there at Artemis. Hot blond, blue eyes (perhaps contacts), perfect body.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1943346]Romania does not use the euro. Minus five. Similar to Poland, where I am now, they don't have their fiscal shit together enough to qualify to use it. Your credibility is eroding. I don't like Romanian women. Had enough of them in Spain. Polish women are fat. I was just in Latvia and there are a lot of hot women there.
But do you really want to fly to the capital of Kentucky? Are there good hookers in Kentucky? I thought everyone was strung out on heroin or Oxy.[/QUOTE]I'm interested in hearing more on Latvia. Is there an active message board for that country? I've been thinking of getting there before it's part of Russia again. What's the going price range?
Are you keeping notes? You really ought to write a book titled Dickhead lol.
People are always telling me I should write a book on either mongering or traveling, or both. Writing is hard work. I'm retired. I was only in Latvia for two nights. One night I went out to dinner with a woman from Spain I picked up in line at the grocery store, and the other night I got drunk with a bunch of Aussies. I didn't monger. I'm just saying the regular women are pretty good looking. I did see two obvious hookers on the flight from Riga to Warsaw, but I don't know which country they were from. I tried to look at their passports when we were boarding but was unsuccessful in spotting the country. There is a board for Latvia, and there was a pussy club right by my hotel in Old Town. Those clubs in Europe are always too expensive for me.
But I don't think Latvia will ever be part of Russia again. They hate those fuckers. Latvia did not give them citizenship, or their descendants either, so a lot of the ethnic Russians there are stateless. They changed that law finally, as far as the descendants go, but they did not make it retroactive. I did not go to Lithuania, but the other two Baltic States seemed to be doing quite well on their own, if the number of drunk British tourists puking in the streets is any indication. But I liked Latvia a lot more than Estonia. Better beer and cuter women.
I'll give KK back 3 of the 5 points now that he has clarified, but I bet a lot of those hookers still think in [i]lei[/i], since they are probably all making remittance payments.
I visited and stayed at the Hilton in July. I'm seeing some misinformation about it; it is chica friendly. They charge a $15 guest parking fee and take their passport and copy it. Or you can go in through the casino, take that elevator bank to the pool level, and then grab a separate bank of elevators to the rooms. Not the best place to pick up ladies, but you get Honors points.
After joining this board several years ago I've returned in preparation for a planned trip to Medellin. While I've chased babes across the globe my visit to PC was one of the best so I thought I'd share my experience from a trip I made there one year ago with a buddy.
During one of my two trips to the Del Rey in CR I talked with a girl who told me about "Veneto. " I booked a room there for $55 a night (three nights) so even with the high guest fee of $42 my room cost was still under $100 per night. The rooms aren't fancy but they are clean and served my purposes just fine. Furthermore, I was impressed with it's location in the Financial District of PC which is fairly nice and not too dangerous. One thing I liked about Veneto was the hotel pool which had a couple working girls in bikinis, one in particular was a fairly hot girl named Andrea, a Colombian who would have made a tasty afternoon snack. However, I was keeping my powder dry for an evening big game hunt.
The festivities take place in the hotel bar / casino and here's the best part about Panama; it's non-smoking! Yeah! I freaking hate second-hand smoke and being able to chase babes in a bar without having to breathe that crap is a huge plus in my book. (Also, very few of these girls smoke anyway) The bar is loaded with girls, 99% of whom would rate a 3 or less but don't be discouraged because the 1% are super-hot. I'll come back to this subject in a moment.
Do not, repeat, do not grab the first girl you meet in either Veneto's or Habano's until you've fully evaluated the available talent in both places. Habano's is just about a ten minute safe walk at most from Veneto. In the evening it's absolutely crammed with girls who on average are much better looking than the Veneto crew. As with Veneto. Most of the girls you'll meet at Habano's are Colombian although I met girls there from several different countries including Spain, Cuba, Central Europe, Venezuela, etc.
There was one absolutely mind-blowing scorching hot babe who had a level of class and sophistication above the others. About 5. 5-5.7, killer curvy body, brownish blonde hair in a bun, wearing a stylish pants suit. She was walking ahead of me just before we reached the entrance to Habano's and I quipped "muy bonita chica" and she turned her head with a nice friendly smile of appreciation although she kept walking. This gave me a moment of pause for thought as a normal working girl given the least bit of encouragement would have you in a headlock instantly trying to close the deal. She entered and stood by herself along the rail along the elevated portion of the bar. She was clearly not on the prowl, rather seeming to be biding her time. After about a half hour I saw her climb into a black SUV with a clean-cut guy probably in his mid-30's. Are there any board members with a lot experience at Habano's who can shed light on this girl? Trust me, she's head and shoulders above any of the others so I'm sure I'm not the only one who would have been left with a lasting impression of her.
I'm only interested in the creme de la creme and I'm not afraid to go back empty handed at the end of an evening as I did on my final third night. As I mentioned earlier the average girl at Habano's is much better than at Veneto so it was ironic that outside of the Habano's super babe the two hottest babes I found were at Veneto's. The first evening I met Connie, a girl from Medellin about 5.5 with a beautiful face, long black hair, and a killer body without an once of fat, firm but just soft and smooth enough to the touch. The next night I met Angela, thin, 5. 9 beautiful face from Baranquilla. Both of these gorgeous girls were fantastic in bed and went at it like wild animals. They both asked for $150 and were well worth it and more. FYI- I asked Connie about doing an overnight and her price was $600.
Our trip was brief so we never ventured beyond the financial district but Habano's and Veneto provided all the entertainment options we needed. All the Colombian girls I've met in the states are gorgeous and the two best ones I met in Panama were also Colombians so I'm looking forward to my coming trip to Medellin. What are some of the other board members thoughts of PC vs MDE, in terms of quality and what locations best approximate the Veneto / Habano's experience.
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Our trip was brief so we never ventured beyond the financial district but Habano's and Veneto provided all the entertainment options we needed. All the Colombian girls I've met in the states are gorgeous and the two best ones I met in Panama were also Colombians so I'm looking forward to my coming trip to Medellin. What are some of the other board members thoughts of PC vs MDE, in terms of quality and what locations best approximate the Veneto / Habano's experience.[/QUOTE]Glad you had a good time. $600 for TLN is a bit high. I got it for $200-$300 in the past.
As far as I know there's no such thing as Veneto or Habanos or any setup like it in Medellin. I'm going in November and my research indicates the closest is going to the bar at one of the Mansions. You can find information on those places deep in the Medellin thread. Otherwise in Medellin the locals prefer not to have it out in the open.
PC is great but it's just boring during the day as I mentioned before in the thread.
[QUOTE=Buffed;1944712]After joining this board several years ago I've returned in preparation for a planned trip to Medellin. While I've chased babes across the globe my visit to PC was one of the best so I thought I'd share my experience from a trip I made there one year ago with a buddy.
During one of my two trips to the Del Rey in CR I talked with a girl who told me about "Veneto. " I booked a room there for $55 a night (three nights) so even with the high guest fee of $42 my room cost was still under $100 per night. The rooms aren't fancy but they are clean and served my purposes just fine. Furthermore, I was impressed with it's location in the Financial District of PC which is fairly nice and not too dangerous. One thing I liked about Veneto was the hotel pool which had a couple working girls in bikinis, one in particular was a fairly hot girl named Andrea, a Colombian who would have made a tasty afternoon snack. However, I was keeping my powder dry for an evening big game hunt.
The festivities take place in the hotel bar / casino and here's the best part about Panama; it's non-smoking! Yeah! I freaking hate second-hand smoke and being able to chase babes in a bar without having to breathe that crap is a huge plus in my book. (Also, very few of these girls smoke anyway) The bar is loaded with girls, 99% of whom would rate a 3 or less but don't be discouraged because the 1% are super-hot. I'll come back to this subject in a moment.
Do not, repeat, do not grab the first girl you meet in either Veneto's or Habano's until you've fully evaluated the available talent in both places. Habano's is just about a ten minute safe walk at most from Veneto. In the evening it's absolutely crammed with girls who on average are much better looking than the Veneto crew. As with Veneto. Most of the girls you'll meet at Habano's are Colombian although I met girls there from several different countries including Spain, Cuba, Central Europe, Venezuela, etc..[/QUOTE]Hey, was the Angela a fit gym girl with a hard body? Secondly the girl you are inquiring about, does she have a lot of tattoos? Daunting eyes, serious face?
[QUOTE=TripAdvisor16;1945005]Hey, was the Angela a fit gym girl with a hard body? Secondly the girl you are inquiring about, does she have a lot of tattoos? Daunting eyes, serious face?[/QUOTE]No she's got a long light brown hair and no tattoos as far as I can remember. At 5'. 9" without shoes she's definitely on the tall side with a perfect young better although not muscular. I'd been doing laps around the casino when I rounded a corner of the slot machines heading toward the front entrance when I ran into her head-on. It was an instant no-brainier so probably five seconds elapsed before we were on our way down to the front desk to pay the guest fee.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1944931]Glad you had a good time. $600 for TLN is a bit high. I got it for $200-$300 in the past.
As far as I know there's no such thing as Veneto or Habanos or any setup like it in Medellin. I'm going in November and my research indicates the closest is going to the bar at one of the Mansions. You can find information on those places deep in the Medellin thread. Otherwise in Medellin the locals prefer not to have it out in the open.
PC is great but it's just boring during the day as I mentioned before in the thread.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree that it was too much but I understand why Connie would ask it because she was by far and away the hottest working girl in either Veneto or Habano's that evening (first night, Angela was second night). She could have been racking-up $150 dollars every 45 minutes all night long.
Since PC was new to us we didn't get bored during the day as we walked around touring the immediate vicinity of Veneto. Also, there was Andrea and a couple less attractive girls to hold our attention at the Veneto pool in the afternoon.