Lisbon

Yes I've often read reports of attitude problems with ebony girls, particularly in places like England and America, but my experience is that the girls in Lisbon are willing to please and deliver a good service. Of course, you'll always get the odd one who may give a stinking service, but in general I think Lisbon girls are good.

It's a shame Debora Dias seems to have disappeared from the roster as she was great.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2884531]Thank you for the information! Telma did look sketchy and I will avoid.

I don't mean to imply bias, but culturally, in Portugal, are the black women more or less likely to be scammers? It's certainly 100% true in America where a few times, long ago, I tried some of the dark girls in Detroit and LA. Horrible experiences with conniving bitches. Id never considered black escorts in the US. (Actually, any escorts are a high priced rip-off in the land if the free, imo)

So, Any general cultural differences in Portugal that would lead an experienced monger to shy away from the ebony ladies?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Harry1217;2884561]Thank you Mongerer88 for the useful links to those reviews, but Flora Neves most definitely isn't darker skinned. We had the same suggestion on the board before, I'm not sure why she is being classed as darker skinned.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. She is listed as Latin on Eurogirls advertising site, but her pictures there are whiter than on Apartadox.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/flora-neves/646062/?list=cv3vce[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-flora-neves-5484[/URL]

Where is she in the skin tone chart?

As a group, the African ladies have the same reputation as the Brasilians or Portuguese (without making even the distinction of the Brasilians and Portuguese nationals who are also black). Some are bad, some are good, some even have fans on this board. I can't really say more than that, because it's not a group I pay attention to -- not my thing.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2884572]As a group, the African ladies have the same reputation as the Brasilians or Portuguese (without making even the distinction of the Brasilians and Portuguese nationals who are also black). Some are bad, some are good, some even have fans on this board. I can't really say more than that, because it's not a group I pay attention to -- not my thing.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I appreciate that response and it is what I had hoped.

Since EP raised their prices I thought independents become more attractive so I started with a new list. Maybe some of you have comments to that:

Juliana Calvancanti.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-juliana-cavalcanti-5459[/URL]

Lunna Cardoso.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lunna-cardoso-8239[/URL]

Morena Flor.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-morena-flor-5670[/URL]

Mariana Martins.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-mariana-martins-5725[/URL]

Bia Novais.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-bia-novais-7739[/URL]

Angel Chloe.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-angel-chloe-5539[/URL]

Mariza Rodrigues.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Mariza-Rodrigues-4581[/URL]

Laura Sampaio.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-laura-sampaio-7798[/URL]

Sophie Adams.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-sophie-a--7071[/URL]

In terms of age and body types the list is all over the place I know but they should all have solid reviews.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2884531]Thank you for the information! Telma did look sketchy and I will avoid.

Regarding the Apartadax and EP girls, is it actually safe to conclude that the verified photos are real, if re-touched? Or could they be of a totally different woman?

I'm a bit torn between going for someone like Rebecca who seems nearly certain to provide good service, or to take a chance and try one of the ebony girls. I get plenty of good sex in Asia and have no strong affinity for Caucasian girls, so good sex with a late 20s white girl, would be nice, but not unusual. Bad sex with a young black girl would be an unfortunate waste of good money. So, how risky is that?

I don't mean to imply bias, but culturally, in Portugal, are the black women more or less likely to be scammers? It's certainly 100% true in America where a few times, long ago, I tried some of the dark girls in Detroit and LA. Horrible experiences with conniving bitches. Id never considered black escorts in the US. (Actually, any escorts are a high priced rip-off in the land if the free, imo)

So, Any general cultural differences in Portugal that would lead an experienced monger to shy away from the ebony ladies?[/QUOTE]Maybe try Lara Vincent? I believe her reviews are favorable and she is darker skinned.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lara-vincent-7113[/URL]

I'll tell you Julia Calvancanti and Luna Cardoso are both on my working list for next time around.

It's worth keeping in mind that Mariana Martins is working out of an area on the eastern outskirts of Sintra. When I visit, I always spend part of my time either in Cascais or Sintra, so that isn't a problem for me. But it seems to be an issue for the basically everyone else who doesn't actually live there, and I suspect going to see her without a car would be very, very inconvenient.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2884886]I'll tell you Julia Calvancanti and Luna Cardoso are both on my working list for next time around.

It's worth keeping in mind that Mariana Martins is working out of an area on the eastern outskirts of Sintra. When I visit, I always spend part of my time either in Cascais or Sintra, so that isn't a problem for me. But it seems to be an issue for the basically everyone else who doesn't actually live there, and I suspect going to see her without a car would be very, very inconvenient.[/QUOTE]You Sir have very good taste!

They are also on my shortlist and I will definitely try to visit them.

I insist: the very best dark skinned beauty right now is Ana Santos [URL]https://somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1179-ana-santos-massagista-sensual-Lisboa[/URL].

[URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/AnaSantos[/URL]

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2885110]I insist: the very best dark skinned beauty right now is Ana Santos [URL]https://somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1179-ana-santos-massagista-sensual-Lisboa[/URL].

[URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/AnaSantos[/URL][/QUOTE]But one downside. No English.

But if you have recommendations for dark skinned girls that speak English and are independent. I am all for it!

Good news! Deborah Dias ist back!

She now goes under the name Raquel Costa.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-raquel-costa-8395[/URL]

[QUOTE=Front604;2884771]Maybe try Lara Vincent? I believe her reviews are favorable and she is darker skinned.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lara-vincent-7113[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the suggestion. Looks nice, but maybe a little big for my tastes: BMI is over 21 based on her reported weight. Considering that most girl shave off a few kgs, her actual BMI is probably 23. I like something in 17.5-19 range. But perhaps not possible.

[QUOTE=Front604;2885304]Good news! Deborah Dias ist back!

She now goes under the name Raquel Costa.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-raquel-costa-8395[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks. Great catch. Raquel is well reviewed and should move toward the top of SteelBaton's list.

This thread has been incredibly helpful for my 'research' as I plan my first (sadly too short) stay in Lisbon.

Based on the girls you have reviewed here, it looks like our tastes match! So thanks very much for that! I have a few clarifying questions:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/celine-luz/[/URL]

Really great body, made me feel very confortable although it was not communicative. I did not like her face too much, but oral without condom was good. Sex also great, we did a few positions and she seemed to be enjoying it. 8/10.

Celine is now among my top picks. Was there anything she wouldn't do?

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/iris-freitas/[/URL]

Had a petite and natural body, with small tits, but recently has put silicone, but still a great body. I just love her face, although she is sure not 19 her face is very young and delicate. Oral without condom was very good. She is also very energetic and really seems to enjoy it, sometimes even asking to go harder or slap her. Likes to talk a lot, but if you don't start she will usually start by herself at the 30 min mark. 8/10.

Regarding the fake tits, would you say her current photos on the link you sent are before or after the implants? I couldn't tell. I myself prefer natural, but silicone if in moderate size is fine too.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-julieta-6070[/URL]

Very beautiful girl with a great body. Oral with condom. Unfortunately seems to think its a new star with prices going up to 160 EUR for a incall. Went a few months ago and it was great. Tried to go recently, was hard to schedule and since it was over 10 PM, she seemed very tired and just wanted to finish it as soon as possible. Will not go again unless someone says she went back the old ways. 4/10.

The link you have for Julieta is no longer active. By any chance, is this the same girl? [URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/escort/julieta[/URL].

Thanks again!

Unless Astroglider1 tells us otherwise, it does not appear that the Julieta in your Portalprivado link is the same Julieta in the Taking a Break For Now Apartadox link.

In the local board review of the Julieta of Apartadox thread (which also indicates declining review scores for her), there is a link to her Apartadox and PortalPrivado ads, both of which are now inactive.

The phone number in the PortalPrivado ad you linked to with a working number, leads to a thread on the local board with a different provider name from many years ago with complaints of false photos. So I think you have hit two duds in your pursuit of an elusive Julieta. You are better off going with Celine or Iris that you mentioned, or for other younger ladies looking at Flora Neves or Viviane Miler.

[QUOTE=QMan0007;2885420]This thread has been incredibly helpful for my 'research' as I plan my first (sadly too short) stay in Lisbon.

Based on the girls you have reviewed here, it looks like our tastes match! So thanks very much for that! I have a few clarifying questions:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/celine-luz/[/URL]

Really great body, made me feel very confortable although it was not communicative. I did not like her face too much, but oral without condom was good. Sex also great, we did a few positions and she seemed to be enjoying it. 8/10.

Celine is now among my top picks. Was there anything she wouldn't do?

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/iris-freitas/[/URL]

Had a petite and natural body, with small tits, but recently has put silicone, but still a great body. I just love her face, although she is sure not 19 her face is very young and delicate. Oral without condom was very good. She is also very energetic and really seems to enjoy it, sometimes even asking to go harder or slap her. Likes to talk a lot, but if you don't start she will usually start by herself at the 30 min mark. 8/10.

Regarding the fake tits, would you say her current photos on the link you sent are before or after the implants? I couldn't tell. I myself prefer natural, but silicone if in moderate size is fine too.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-julieta-6070[/URL]

Very beautiful girl with a great body. Oral with condom. Unfortunately seems to think its a new star with prices going up to 160 EUR for a incall. Went a few months ago and it was great. Tried to go recently, was hard to schedule and since it was over 10 PM, she seemed very tired and just wanted to finish it as soon as possible. Will not go again unless someone says she went back the old ways. 4/10.

The link you have for Julieta is no longer active. By any chance, is this the same girl? [URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/escort/julieta[/URL].

Thanks again![/QUOTE]