Here is what I remember from my trips up and down the cost
Buzios is overpriced, but it's beautiful with very nice cobblestone downtown streets and upscale clubs / eateries. I've been there multiple times, staying in villas and nice ocean-front hotels (posadas). I don't remember paying more than $100 per ocean-front room. Maybe prices have gone up lately.
Arraial do Cabo has more of a backpacking vibe for me. Nothing's wrong with that, but it's very different from Buzios.
Cabo Frio has at least one excellent beach (Concho? But I was kind of unimpressed otherwise, though I was there just a few hours.
I thought Angra was a little more boring than Buzios, in terms of the night life. If you go to Angra anyway, I'd consider Ilha Grande or Parati (or both).
There are no motor vehicles on Ilha Grande, and the island is still not fully developed. We went there right before the pandemic in January 2020. Was my last vacation until, hopefully, next month.
We rented an awesome house practically on the beach with pool, Jacuzzi and awesome terrace overlooking the harbor and the ocean. When I go with a buddy, we do tend to book airbnbs with private pool and / or Jacuzzi when we can share the cost. Makes a lot of unforgettable fun with girls. I mean, any of you guys, who're willing to pay $150 and more for a bed in a hotel room should at least consider that option.
Parati is historic and also has great tours to waterfalls and Costa Verde beaches. It also has great art and craft stores that put Rio crap souvenirs to shame.
I wrote a report from IG and Parati sometime in Feb 2020.
The Tradeoff: Quality Beaches vs a Better Nightlife
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2660408]I actually like swimming in the ocean for its own sake, and one of the best if not the best spots for ocean swims is barra posto 1 (all the drama in Dom notwithstanding).[/QUOTE]OK, let's talk about the trade off between high quality, world class beaches which RJ is NOT and places where you have a ton of girls and a decent beach which describes RJ pretty well. IMHO. The theory is that the better the beach the less opportunity there is for poon. Examples:
1. Pattaya: The Sex Capital of the known Universe. More girls / more bars / more everything than RJ, but Pattaya Beach is totally polluted. The Beach sucks although it looks nice from a distance.
2. RJ: a good combination / tradeoff of decent beaches & plenty of attractive, friendly girls. Maybe the best combo in the world, but RJ beaches are not world class! They may be considered iconic, but I can think of at least 30 beaches more beautiful, more serene, more natural. The problem is these spectacular beaches have no girls or very few, so they are strictly bring your own girl type beaches.
3. Patong, Phuket: a much nicer beach than RJ, IMHO, although not the prettiest beach on the island, but there is plenty of nightlife in Patong, although not as good as RJ's nightlife and most certainly not even comparable to Pattaya's nightlife.
I could keep going, but I think you get the drift. RJ is a great place to monger and shag friendly, attractive Brazilian girls and relax on the beach during the day. But if you want a better nightlife than RJ, you have to give up the beach and go to Pattaya, SP, or BKK. And alternatively, if you want to spend time on higher quality beaches you have to give up on the nightlife. That is the tradeoff.
BTW Barra Posto 10 IMHO is better, cleaner, and more natural that Barra Posto 1, but it is farther out, so you got to BYO. This illustrates why I am interested in the Beaches of Northern Brazil. I wonder if they are worth the trip with one of my favorite gals along for the ride or if I should just settle on nearby Buzios side trip. I guess I won't know the answer to this burning question until I find out for myself. KKK.
There is no other place in the world like Rio
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2660550]OK, let's talk about the trade off between high quality, world class beaches which RJ is NOT and places where you have a ton of girls and a decent beach which describes RJ pretty well. IMHO. The theory is that the better the beach the less opportunity there is for poon. Examples:
1. Pattaya: The Sex Capital of the known Universe. More girls / more bars / more everything than RJ, but Pattaya Beach is totally polluted. The Beach sucks although it looks nice from a distance.
2. RJ: a good combination / tradeoff of decent beaches & plenty of attractive, friendly girls. Maybe the best combo in the world, but RJ beaches are not world class! They may be considered iconic, but I can think of at least 30 beaches more beautiful, more serene, more natural. The problem is these spectacular beaches have no girls or very few, so they are strictly bring your own girl type beaches.
3. Patong, Phuket: a much nicer beach than RJ, IMHO, although not the prettiest beach on the island, but there is plenty of nightlife in Patong, although not as good as RJ's nightlife and most certainly not even comparable to Pattaya's nightlife.
I could keep going, but I think you get the drift. RJ is a great place to monger and shag friendly, attractive Brazilian girls and relax on the beach during the day. But if you want a better nightlife than RJ, you have to give up the beach and go to Pattaya, SP, or BKK. And alternatively, if you want to spend time on higher quality beaches you have to give up on the nightlife. That is the tradeoff.
BTW Barra Posto 10 IMHO is better, cleaner, and more natural that Barra Posto 1, but it is farther out, so you got to BYO. This illustrates why I am interested in the Beaches of Northern Brazil. I wonder if they are worth the trip with one of my favorite gals along for the ride or if I should just settle on nearby Buzios side trip. I guess I won't know the answer to this burning question until I find out for myself. KKK.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure about the purpose of this intellectual exercise. Rio's are urban beaches, so blaming them for their lack of serenity in a megapolis of 7 millions is not really fair. You won't find any huge city in the world that would meet these demands. And bringing up Pattaya couldn't be more wrong; Pattaya, being the only urban open-air hoarhouse in the world, is an amazing locale, but it has no historic value, no architectural or natural beauty, no usable beach, nothing except good food and that famous in-your-face, 24-hour a day nightlife. Which, by the way, is fantastic, don't get me wrong, but you aren't even comparing apples and oranges, more like apples and beetroots.
My point is that Rio has the best combination of natural beauty, decent beaches, amazing nightlife and even bits of colonial history for those of us who aren't scared to venture downtown. Does it have serene beaches like Fernando de Noronha? No. Does it have fewer GDPs than Sampa? Probably. But in all seriousness, one would have to live several lives before they'll have an opportunity to get lonely in Rio.
In terms of beaches in the North, I took a couple of boat trips to different beaches when I visited Salvador. They were both gorgeous, but not more so than Lopes Mendez on Ilha Grande or Trinidade in Parati, and both are just a few hours away from Rio. So no, I wouldn't fly there for the beaches, but I would fly there to see Salvador again, which is a unique and amazing city, or to discover new places in the North I've never been to. I think it's ridiculous to fly away from Rio for the beaches, but what do I know.
Now, if you're looking for a place that should be in everyone's bucket list, monger or not, try Lencois Marenhances (sp? It's a long journey, but it really is an otherworldly experience.
Concur with Xpartan. RJ optimal
Concur with Xpartan. RJ optimal.
Rio's outlying beach towns -- beginning with Barra -- are where it is at.
As I said, I went on a very non pro hike Sunday morning. We step off at 7. Ironically (because it is a religious organization), our link up point is less than a futbol pitch from the top tier hoarhouse in Zona Sul. We hike transcarioca trail. On times when we have finished, fellow hikers and I go to Barra p3.
Barra P3 is described by the youtube blogger that Bearsi recommended as the best beach in Rio.
[URL]https://youtu.be/ihNqHLsvsw0[/URL]
It is. Chege, SocratesNY (a generous and good wingman, BTW) and I have been hitting Barra P1, which is where Perola Negra is, and is where Metro Jardim Oceanico is.
You go to Perola Negra. You get numbers. The girls at PN are the same as 4 x4. They go back and forth, for example Callsign Penelope, whom I designate Callsign Annette Schwarz. She can be found at both.
The girls will come to work for PN in the afternoon, and go to the beach. They will sit there on the beach in front of Na Brasa Colombia, and zap (whatsapp) you and tell you to come find them, which me and SocratesNY did. You could then order them if you wanted their price (I didn't) of 500 r and hour. Fug that. But it is high season. Summer Solstice was 21 Dec, 2 h50 m longer than winter solstice 21 June, and the earth is tilting back, but high season will be an affliction on spartan mongers until carnival passes. So you can go back and forth between the beach and arguably one of the best if not the best termas in Rio, all at Barra P1. OK, some of you argue P10 is better, maybe. Pesquera, a great insta photo spot is about P8 or 9. P12 is Recreio, and IMHO unexplored and probably awesome. Papatinho the prince of Brazil lives there in a surfers run down ap and surfs daily, his success on pineapple notwithstanding. Keep going up the road, and you have praia abrico, half nude, half clothed. Keep going further still and you come to Guaratiba / Marambaia. The best paella is at Cafe Marambaia and a good pousada is probably at Pousada Marambaia.
And that's not even getting into Angra, or Buzios, or Arrail, or Cabo Frio, or Saquerema, or Paraty -- all those are venues of super beaches, which, again, you can hit with a unlimited supply of 18 year old Rio hoars. Just go to trash casas and VM, 116, and PN, and get numbers, and make a market, it will take 3-5 to find a few regular, buttman backpacker sex hotel fuck companions to make those short trips pretty awesome.
Finally, Vagabundo has been to Thailand, as a non pro (not hobbying) Lieutenant of Naval Infantry, to include a side trip to Cambodia as a Phnom Penh fireman to get Swiss folks out, and the simple fact is that Latinas and negras and mulatas are hotter than asian women, IMHO, though I did sleep with a hot Thai girl with huge natural super fit tits for free. So, Rio really is the capital of the world, and its own planet. Now that Copa and even Leblon are basically toilets, Barra is the place to be. A MILF blonde super hot AMERICAN woman Vagabundo met in the Transamerica pool totally concurs, and I got her zap so I will be tagging that loira tail along with the locals soon enough.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2660651]I'm not sure about the purpose of this intellectual exercise. Rio's are urban beaches, so blaming them for their lack of serenity in a megapolis of 7 millions is not really fair. You won't find any huge city in the world that would meet these demands. And bringing up Pattaya couldn't be more wrong; Pattaya, being the only urban open-air hoarhouse in the world, is an amazing locale, but it has no historic value, no architectural or natural beauty, no usable beach, nothing except good food and that famous in-your-face, 24-hour a day nightlife. Which, by the way, is fantastic, don't get me wrong, but you aren't even comparing apples and oranges, more like apples and beetroots.
My point is that Rio has the best combination of natural beauty, decent beaches, amazing nightlife and even bits of colonial history for those of us who aren't scared to venture downtown. Does it have serene beaches like Fernando de Noronha? No. Does it have fewer GDPs than Sampa? Probably. But in all seriousness, one would have to live several lives before they'll have an opportunity to get lonely in Rio..[/QUOTE]