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[QUOTE=Werqweq;2727570]Let me give you a possible recommendation. The woman is not by any means attractive unless you're into the "BBW" look, but she gives a very good massage, and she followed it by a very good deepthroat BJ (just keep your eyes closed) that included rimming in my case (perhaps since I asked to use the shower before my massage).
Shop is "Top Thai massage and spa 2" on Sukhumvit 33, about 500 meters down the road on the right side. Name of woman is Rin, pronounced "Riiiin".[/QUOTE]I wonder if the woman is the very famous Rin known long ago for ball massages?

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2727237]Thanks for that.

I have lived and worked here for a while now, so I have picked up on the Isaan girl mentality and demands.

I don't even try to fully understand the cultural nuances and why, I just accept they are there.

As well as living here, I work here, and thankfully that means I stay away mostly from the harder edged places, Bangkok, Pattaya and even Patong.

I live south in Phuket, Rawai, and we see here a different mix of the types of working girls.

I like to say that we see a softer type, so you learn more, before you get killed.

And, I'm not single, being 4 years into a relationship with an Isaan ex bargirl, tho such for a very short period, who is some 30 plus years younger than me.

It has worked, and is still working, and has morphed also into a professional business career relationship for both of us.

And you know what, I am not unique around here, there are many many many similar successful pairings.[/QUOTE]You consider being in relationships with ex-bar girls as successful relationships? LOL. That tells me everything, the standards are so damn low.

OK.

I guess I didn't ask the right question or didn't ask it correctly. Or gave too many details. Sorry about that. I was hoping somebody could help me figure this out. I am not used to the culture here.

At home in the United States, I get way, way hotter girls than I'm finding in Bangkok. The girls here seem really old and if they are not old they seem really lazy. As you can see from my previous post, I don't even ask for much, but they want to breeze in for long time money and then get out in one hour I think.

Can anyone help me figure out how to do what I try to do here in Bangkok? What Avenue should I try? I have a bar girl that's good to go, but she's like 100 years old. I have freelancers that are good to go, but they seem really lazy.

I have not tried massage parlors and trying to get them to go a longer time.

What else can I try? How should I proceed?

Also, you know how complicated that post was? Imagine trying to explain this when you don't know Thai.

I hate to say it, but I do way way better in United States. Like 1000 times better. I thought this was supposed to be an awesome place. It's not working out for me. I think I need the help of the experts here. Can you please help?

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2727593]If you properly want to see Rawai, then yes its best to stay there for the night, Patong is a 30-40 minute travel at night.

Travel down in the afternoon, book into a hotel, then check out the massage shop action into early evening, then eat.

Then hit Gilbis / Banana / Bank bar area around 8 pm, then if still looking hit Laguna at 10 pm, and Club Zhou opens at midnight.

Head back to Patong early the next afternoon.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Appreciate the advice.

[QUOTE=PuntgerMon;2727699]I hate to say it, but I do way way better in United States. Like 1000 times better.[/QUOTE]

Then jump on the next plane back to the US. If you're unhappy with your experience in Thailand, nobody is going to give you advice that will improve it by a factor of 1000 times.

To be fair, Thailand is overrated for mongering. It used to be an order of magnitude or two better back back 10-20 years ago, has been on a steady decline, but is still drawing upon some of the old glory. Even given this, you'll find that most punters find Thailand easier and more satisfying than most spots in the western world. If you're a rare exception, just accept it and go where you prefer to be.

I think a key to being happy in Thailand is to accept things as they are, relax, adopt a "mai bpen rai" attitude, explore a bit and enjoy all the small (and not so small) delights that come your way. Having rigid expectations and trying to shoehorn Thais into conforming to your specifications is a recipe for a bad time. You can nudge them slightly sometimes, but if you come with a list of requirements and insist they follow them exactly, you'll be disappointed. This is true of many aspects, from food to sex. Some people are a bit OCD and don't like this, and Thailand is not for them.

[QUOTE=PuntgerMon;2727699]OK.

I guess I didn't ask the right question or didn't ask it correctly. Or gave too many details. Sorry about that. I was hoping somebody could help me figure this out. I am not used to the culture here.

At home in the United States, I get way, way hotter girls than I'm finding in Bangkok. The girls here seem really old and if they are not old they seem really lazy. As you can see from my previous post, I don't even ask for much, but they want to breeze in for long time money and then get out in one hour I think.

Can anyone help me figure out how to do what I try to do here in Bangkok? What Avenue should I try? I have a bar girl that's good to go, but she's like 100 years old. I have freelancers that are good to go, but they seem really lazy.

I have not tried massage parlors and trying to get them to go a longer time.

What else can I try? How should I proceed?

Also, you know how complicated that post was? Imagine trying to explain this when you don't know Thai.

I hate to say it, but I do way way better in United States. Like 1000 times better. I thought this was supposed to be an awesome place. It's not working out for me. I think I need the help of the experts here. Can you please help?[/QUOTE]If you aren't happy with the bar girl quality then you should check out the Thai Friendly website. Plenty of cute, younger women there that are looking for company. Also, if you are willing to spend a bit more cash (still a lot less than in the USA) check out [URL]smooci.com[/URL]. They list escorts from multiple agencies at prices much less than what they charge at their regular sites.

And if you are doing that well in the USA why spend 24 hours or more to get to Thailand. Myself at Social Security age, with a normal income, the quality (and quantity) of available and "free" women is quite poor. And the P4 P quality is horrible unless you are willing to shell out major $$.

Also, you didn't indicate where in Bangkok you were. You definitely want to be in the Sukhumvit area. There you have access to Nana, Soi Cowboy bars and freelancers on Suk 4 and Thermae bar. I would be astounded if you couldn't find someone that appeals to you.

[QUOTE=PuntgerMon;2727699]OK.

I guess I didn't ask the right question or didn't ask it correctly. Or gave too many details. Sorry about that. I was hoping somebody could help me figure this out. I am not used to the culture here.

At home in the United States, I get way, way hotter girls than I'm finding in Bangkok. The girls here seem really old and if they are not old they seem really lazy. As you can see from my previous post, I don't even ask for much, but they want to breeze in for long time money and then get out in one hour I think.

Can anyone help me figure out how to do what I try to do here in Bangkok? What Avenue should I try? I have a bar girl that's good to go, but she's like 100 years old. I have freelancers that are good to go, but they seem really lazy.

I have not tried massage parlors and trying to get them to go a longer time.

What else can I try? How should I proceed?

Also, you know how complicated that post was? Imagine trying to explain this when you don't know Thai.

I hate to say it, but I do way way better in United States. Like 1000 times better. I thought this was supposed to be an awesome place. It's not working out for me. I think I need the help of the experts here. Can you please help?[/QUOTE]In Thailand, you can get anything you want if you pay and most speak enough English in the P4 P scene. So perhaps the problem starts with hmmm?

[QUOTE=PuntgerMon;2727362]Hi,

First post ever. Very experienced with USA and some experience in Europe Mongering and Puntering. Ha ha.

I like a different kind of thing that most of you. I'll describe it. Then, can you guys tell me my best bet for trying to do this in Bangkok? In the States it's soooo easy to do this but I don't know where to get started in Bangkok since it's all about "short time" and numbers of pops here.

What I like: just getting teased for extended periods of time. I'm good with hands only even. Edging. That type of thing. In the States, it's easy. I find girls that appreciate the easy nature of my kink and pay less per hour because it's so damn easy for them. I usually go like 4-6 hours. I find sugar babies mostly for this. They understand it more than high dollar escorts. I also go for crazy attractive / hot / thin / young ones. Breast implants a plus actually for me.

Basically what I do in the United States is a contact them online and then set up everything through text first so there are no surprises. The cost is figured out, everything is figured out in great detail. And it's really easy when we meet.

So how can I find the right type of girls for this in Thailand? I'm here for a month, but if I just do this trial and error trying go go bars, street girls, agencies, massage parlors, Thai friendly, freelancers, etc. Etc. I am liable to waste three weeks before I can figure out how to get this to work.

What do you think my best bet is? For finding girls like this in Bangkok? And Pattaya?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PuntgerMon;2727699]OK.

I guess I didn't ask the right question or didn't ask it correctly. Or gave too many details. Sorry about that. I was hoping somebody could help me figure this out. I am not used to the culture here.

At home in the United States, I get way, way hotter girls than I'm finding in Bangkok. The girls here seem really old and if they are not old they seem really lazy. As you can see from my previous post, I don't even ask for much, but they want to breeze in for long time money and then get out in one hour I think.

Can anyone help me figure out how to do what I try to do here in Bangkok? What Avenue should I try? I have a bar girl that's good to go, but she's like 100 years old. I have freelancers that are good to go, but they seem really lazy.

I have not tried massage parlors and trying to get them to go a longer time.

What else can I try? How should I proceed?

Also, you know how complicated that post was? Imagine trying to explain this when you don't know Thai.

I hate to say it, but I do way way better in United States. Like 1000 times better. I thought this was supposed to be an awesome place. It's not working out for me. I think I need the help of the experts here. Can you please help?[/QUOTE]I see you are looking for a particular kind of prolonged teasing, edging, super delayed orgasm type of Happy Ending massage, perhaps up to 4-6 hours in duration. Is that right?

In addition to which you have a somewhat narrow range in terms of the service provider's age, body, face, etc, you desire, right?

I am not a massage shop punter so I have no idea where to find such a place or lady in Bangkok. But you probably should have posted your initial question in the Bangkok Massage Shop or similar threads.

I don't think the previous replies about you simply meeting girls in the go-go bars at Nana Plaza, on ThaiFriendly, Smooci and so on are addressing this very specific kind of specialized service from a highly skilled provider that you are seeking. At least, I would be surprised beyond all get out if you found a Thai girl in those places who fits your description and is willing and able in terms of experience and skills to put in the hours and effort.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2727769]Then jump on the next plane back to the US. If you're unhappy with your experience in Thailand, nobody is going to give you advice that will improve it by a factor of 1000 times.

To be fair, Thailand is overrated for mongering. It used to be an order of magnitude or two better back back 10-20 years ago, has been on a steady decline, but is still drawing upon some of the old glory. Even given this, you'll find that most punters find Thailand easier and more satisfying than most spots in the western world. If you're a rare exception, just accept it and go where you prefer to be.

I think a key to being happy in Thailand is to accept things as they are, relax, adopt a "mai bpen rai" attitude, explore a bit and enjoy all the small (and not so small) delights that come your way. Having rigid expectations and trying to shoehorn Thais into conforming to your specifications is a recipe for a bad time. You can nudge them slightly sometimes, but if you come with a list of requirements and insist they follow them exactly, you'll be disappointed. This is true of many aspects, from food to sex. Some people are a bit OCD and don't like this, and Thailand is not for them.[/QUOTE]You're right.

In regular life here, it's very much Mai pen Rai for me. I'm thoroughly enjoying all the other aspects of living here this month. It's also a great challenge and fun to learn Thai and figure out the city. I confirm and enjoy the experience along with ups and down. Truthfully, there have been no downs at all. It's been a wonderful place.

For some reason, I've developed a habit of not risking it when it comes to mongering. I've also developed a habit of only the absolute hottest 18-24 year old girls. I'm trying to apply these preferences to Bangkok and it's not working. You're right that maybe I just need to risk it and see what happens. Much like getting on a plane to come here in the first place.

Since I do this in the USA all the time, money isn't really an object. But I also don't want to contribute to any upward pressure ok m rates here by giving too much. So I'm also trying to follow the norms.

It's currently 01:42. Maybe a good time today go look at Soi Cowboy. It's almost closed.

It's a very short walk.

Thanks for setting straight. This is exactly what I needed.

[QUOTE=HardDrive;2727776]If you aren't happy with the bar girl quality then you should check out the Thai Friendly website. Plenty of cute, women there that are looking for company. Also, if you are willing to spend a bit more cash (still a lot less than in the USA) check out [URL]smooci.com[/URL]. They list escorts from multiple agencies at prices much less than what they charge at their regular sites.

And if you are doing that well in the USA why spend 24 hours or more to get to Thailand. Myself at Social Security age, with a normal income, the quality (and quantity) of available and "free" women is quite poor. And the P4P quality is horrible unless you are willing to shell out major $$.

Also, you didn't indicate where in Bangkok you were. You definitely want to be in the Sukhumvit area. There you have access to Nana, Soi Cowboy bars and freelancers on Suk 4 and Thermae bar. I would be astounded if you couldn't find someone that appeals to you.[/QUOTE]Ok. I haven't been checking out the bars. That's my problem too, I suppose. I'm 5 minutes from Soi Cowboy at the Asok stop on the BTS. At home, I'm used to going online, finding crazy hot "freelancers" and meeting them next day. Yes, it costs almost $1000 USD a meet, but the quality is outstanding. I'm finding very few young, hot freelance girls on Thai Friendly. A couple, but the freelancers seem to be old. If not old, they are not attractive. If they are young and attractive, they are very slow to meet. None have made it through the "sales funnel" to meeting yet. A few are looking for real boyfriends and I'm looking at meeting these eventually when they get around to it. Another cultural difference. At home I meet most girls the very next day. Tuje is limited here and girls are dragging it out.

For comparison sake, I have 149 unread messages in my inbox on Thai Friendly and I read most of them. I have many thousands on my home source. These are messages from girls where they send the first message but I'm not attracted. One thing I do notice is all the hot, young girls seem to be in Pattaya. Attached, this is my absolute favorite girl in all of Thailand. I'm trying to set up a meet but she is super slow at responding. I'm going to spend next week in Pattaya, but have had absolutely nobluvk here on Bangkok.

I'm not a big "go out and party at night" guy anymore either. I live a more quiet, balanced life and typically get girl online. And ieet them during the day. I think this is making it worse. Y9 u actually have to go out in the middle of the night to bars / streets around here, don't you?

Anyway, this girl is veryuch my type. Trying to find girls like this. This particular one is super slow to set up with. Seems like she's on vacation right now because even her online presence has slowed way down.

[QUOTE=PuntgerMon;2727699]OK.

I guess I didn't ask the right question or didn't ask it correctly. Or gave too many details. Sorry about that. I was hoping somebody could help me figure this out. I am not used to the culture here.
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I hate to say it, but I do way way better in United States. Like 1000 times better. I thought this was supposed to be an awesome place. It's not working out for me. I think I need the help of the experts here. Can you please help?[/QUOTE]Your attitude feels negative right now. That's the first thing that must change before you have a good time in Thailand.

After reading your first and second posts, I question if Thailand is the right place for you. Suggest you spend 4 hours reading this website and you will better understand how the Thailand scene works. Bangkok, Pattaya, and Phuket all have different feels. Different parts of those locations feel different. Lower key is at Samui and maybe Hua Hin (I've never visited Hua Hin).

You are in a foreign land. Don’t expect the same things as you have at home.

[QUOTE=PuntgerMon;2727699]OK.

I guess I didn't ask the right question or didn't ask it correctly. Or gave too many details. Sorry about that. I was hoping somebody could help me figure this out. I am not used to the culture here.

At home in the United States, I get way, way hotter girls than I'm finding in Bangkok. The girls here seem really old and if they are not old they seem really lazy. As you can see from my previous post, I don't even ask for much, but they want to breeze in for long time money and then get out in one hour I think.

Can anyone help me figure out how to do what I try to do here in Bangkok? What Avenue should I try? I have a bar girl that's good to go, but she's like 100 years old. I have freelancers that are good to go, but they seem really lazy.

I have not tried massage parlors and trying to get them to go a longer time.

What else can I try? How should I proceed?

Also, you know how complicated that post was? Imagine trying to explain this when you don't know Thai.

I hate to say it, but I do way way better in United States. Like 1000 times better. I thought this was supposed to be an awesome place. It's not working out for me. I think I need the help of the experts here. Can you please help?[/QUOTE]You are a regular member with 2 posts and zero information. You get what you give. You haven't shared any meaningful information so most senior members are probably not going out of their way to help you with information.

Adding to this this board has hours of reading materail with tons of info.

RTFF, then you might find people will actually bother to put some effort into responding to you question.

[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2726070]Thai Bar Girl's Priorities List: (humour yes, but illustrative none the less).

1. Money.

2. Gold.

3. Food.

4. Sleeping.

5. Child or children.

6. Watching TV.

7. Grandparents, mother, father.

8. Her Thai boyfriend or husband, siblings and other family members.

9. Monks and temples..[/QUOTE]Haha, this is an awesome list, thank you!

[QUOTE=PuntgerMon;2727699]I hate to say it, but I do way way better in United States. Like 1000 times better. I thought this was supposed to be an awesome place. It's not working out for me. I think I need the help of the experts here. Can you please help?[/QUOTE]When in Rome, be like a Roman.

SL.

[QUOTE=PuntgerMon;2727833]Ok. I haven't been checking out the bars. That's my problem too, I suppose. I'm 5 minutes from Soi Cowboy at the Asok stop on the BTS. At home, I'm used to going online, finding crazy hot "freelancers" and meeting them next day. Yes, it costs almost $1000 USD a meet, but the quality is outstanding. I'm finding very few young, hot freelance girls on Thai Friendly. A couple, but the freelancers seem to be old. If not old, they are not attractive. If they are young and attractive, they are very slow to meet. None have made it through the "sales funnel" to meeting yet. A few are looking for real boyfriends and I'm looking at meeting these eventually when they get around to it. Another cultural difference. At home I meet most girls the very next day. Tuje is limited here and girls are dragging it out.

For comparison sake, I have 149 unread messages in my inbox on Thai Friendly and I read most of them. I have many thousands on my home source. These are messages from girls where they send the first message but I'm not attracted. One thing I do notice is all the hot, young girls seem to be in Pattaya. Attached, this is my absolute favorite girl in all of Thailand. I'm trying to set up a meet but she is super slow at responding. I'm going to spend next week in Pattaya, but have had absolutely nobluvk here on Bangkok.[/QUOTE]I think you will have no problem finding girls equal to or surpassing the girl in those photos (talking about how she likely really looks in person, not just in her photos) in the bars on Soi Cowboy or, better in my opinion, in the go-go bars of Nana Plaza another 10-12 minute walk down Sukhumvit at Soi 4 for all the usual desired P4 P services such as DFK, DATY, CFS or BBFSCIP, BBBJCIM, etc. And you can easily have it for 1-2 hours in your hotel room for roughly $100 USD not counting the cost of drinks, any and every night of your stay in Bangkok.

It might cost even less than that if you don't mind choosing fully clothed girls for those services inside Thermae on Sukhumvit near Soi 15 since no 800 - 1000 baht barfine is required to take them to your room.

However, as far as the more specific, "different" and skill-based kind of prolonged (4-6 hour) teasing, edging Happy Ending type of "massage" service you described in your first post goes, as you suggested, that is going to require a whole lot more explaining and, possibly, detailed translating from English to Thai in order to make that happen with those girls.