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[QUOTE=Nounce;2659327]In person meeting is different. I am talking about online dating where men get into asymmetry situation like 2000 to 1.[/QUOTE]The same applies. I have several women who I met online and established something more than a simple P4P transaction.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2659355]I am talking about getting her attention over the other 1,999.[/QUOTE]I've covered that in the past. My last trip I flew to Bogota. We were just passing Medellin just after sunset and I had a perfect view of the city, with the streetlights all lit and all the colors in the sky. I snapped a picture and posted it on Facebook. Over the next 2 days 59 Medellin girls liked it and about 25 messaged me, wanting to meet. That's without sending a message to anyone.
I could also just post a question like "Quien quiere visitarme en Poblado" (or Laureles, Envigado wherever) and have 50 to 100 messaging me. There are endless variations on the theme. Post something enticing on Facebook and watch the feeding frenzy begin.
Then you just weed through the ones who responded. And there's always the friend list. Send as many messages as you want. "Hola. Estoy en Medellin esta semana. Como estas? Quiero verte. " Send that to as many as you want. I expect and get about a 70% response rate. 10 messages, 7 dates.
In 15 minutes or less you can easily fill your calendar for the next week.
It gets even easier with repetition. Girls will hit you up wondering when you'll be back. Some will refer you to friends or even cousins and sisters. More girls will send a friend request. I don't even look for girls anymore. On rare occasions there will be one I really want to see, so I'll initiate a conversation. For the majority, I have plenty of regulars and plenty of girls who are contacting me.
If I went back to spend another year in Medellin, I could just see the girls who initiated the conversation with me, have 2 every day and never need to repeat with 1 or go searching for 1.
The great thing is, anyone can do the same thing.
I stopped seeing most 8 and 9's a while back, because I was not getting a great experience for the inflated price they wanted. Basically, I was paying to bang the body, the make-up and the surgeries. I am sure there are exceptions who perform decently with the right guy, but surely at a price. A price which some will pay and some won't if they believe they can get something better with a 6 or 7 (my situation, as I like girls next door, not plastics). I agree that high end girls are often difficult to nail down, as they get a lot of messages, they probably have several sugar daddies, and they just feel like their shit doesn't stink.
While most women do want to fuck, not all of them want to fuck you or me or feel good when fucking for money. Some do, some don't. And there are some women where sex is not important to them (I can think of at least one very well known prepago who does her best to avoid as much sex as she can. And prefer to drink and eat on the gringos dime).
I am glad you have gotten good service from 8's and 9's. I suspect you are in the minority on that one. Of course, your vision of an 8 or 9 might be different from mine, which has been well discussed here.
I would add that most 8's and 9's you find are, in fact, hardened pros. Which goes back to the non-GFE / too many rules / performance issues. How many 8's and 9's are mongers pursuing who are not prepagos / putas / escorts / semi-pros or whatever you want to call them? I agree that if you can find a try 8/9 who is not into sex for money and is not otherwise self-absorbed, you could have a good time. But I don't have that kind of time. I already spend a lot of time cultivating chicas on FB. With some girls, I have met them through cousins or friends and have had to wait years to have them (because of age). But it was worth the wait. Because they were pretty fresh. I am waiting for another who turns 18 in April. Cousin of a girl I was banging quite regularly 4-6 years ago.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2658902]You guys make a wrong assumption thinking that if she is a 9 her performance in bed will definitely suck. This assumption also makes you settle for less without even trying to hit on gorgeous girls. I have not had many 8's and 9's in my life, but I had a few, and never got an attitude or shitty performance from any of them, the best sex in my life, say top 5 in terms of performance, has always been with 8's and 9's. Just imagine, you are fucking a smoking hot girl and she is into you, and the sex is passionate and hot, and you are in heaven. This is what every monger should aim for. The real problem with 8's and 9's is not the performance (why would it be different? Hot or not, they are all human beings and love to fuck), the problem is as follows: 1. They are difficult to find. 2. Once you find them, it is difficult to grab their attention or to get a reply, if online. 3. Once they reply, it is hard to negotiate a price / terms. 4. The last one, it is hard to actually meet in person, because they flake or ghost you. But once you get to that point of meeting, her performance should not be an issue if you treat her right, have a good hygiene, etc. And if GFE is what you are looking for, don't go for escorts and hardened pros, otherwise you will have issues described in the recent post. This doesn't have to do anything with the looks, you could fuck an average looking Parque Lleras girl and get equally shitty service, I think we all have been there, done that. My point is that don't assume just because she is hot, you will get disappointed in bed, just don't bother with escorts.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nounce;2659120]I already analyzed about situation like yours. You need to be cream of the crop to date cream of the crop. In reality, men likely are dating the lower tier relatively speaking in online dating situation. The reason you are getting it is because you are sharing it. I know someone who does not have problem getting what he wants. He has money but little time so he always line up several girls a day. His deal with girls involves luxury items and cash. When a girl can't make it, the girl introduce another smoking hot girl as replacement. He is not handsome but his generosity makes him the cream of the crop.[/QUOTE]When I was an American sugar daddy and was down to never be monogamous, and always had may, that would happen a lot. A girl would not just bring a girl in to replace her but show up for a threesome. She enhanced her friendship to the girl by introducing her to me and also putting $$$ in her pocket. However, this was enhanced P4P.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2659120]So I am wondering why Elvis wears a suit, now it all makes sense.[/QUOTE]It would if I tried in the USA but in the USA I was trying to temper down expectations as the women there have no limit to what they would ask for.
I dressed up in the Latin countries and was selling a lifestyle in the Latin countries selling the notion if you go with me, we will stay in hotels like this and eat at high end place and go to high end resorts. It was a notion of if you fuck me, all your dreams will come true and for some girls, it either happened or almost did.
With the American women, they were willing to share. It was just money for sex, but when I took vacations with women in the Latin counties, they were not willing. They wanted it for themselves. Some even had boyfriends and left them behind.
JJBee kind of gets to the truth. There are more ways to attract women that just money and looks, but they are the easiest for them to spot. He even talks about being a safe place for women, and you can get them that way, and I have, but you are not anyone's first choice if you are just safe.
There is a difference between attracting and keeping them. The second part was always easier for me, even when it was just dry sex for money. To keep women, you have to show them a good time.
What do women want? Well, even if the women do not use social media to show off, they want a life where if they posted on social media, it would drive the friends green with envy.
Hello fellow Mongers!
Am a junior monger finally got a pass from wife going to Medellin.
I read la Isla and Loutron have top shelf. Can you share pricing anyone tried it?
Any tips are welcome also will do a quick 2 days in Cartagena.
Thanks.
I'd say you have some power online on Facebook of Tinder in terms of the story you tell with your profile pictures and profile. So it's not always 2000 to one odds with attractive girls if your profile sticks out from the crowd. A good profile enhances what you have to work with and tells a narrative about you will help you stick out. The story you tell could be "I'm rich", or "I'm a world traveler / adventurous", or "I'm edgy" or as many of you do "I live or spend lots of time in Medellin". I was just watching the Tinder Swindler on Netflix last night. It's gives some interesting insights in what grabs some women's attention on tinder etc.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2659327]In person meeting is different. I am talking about online dating where men get into asymmetry situation like 2000 to 1.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RonaldoV7191;2659399]Hello fellow Mongers!
Am a junior monger finally got a pass from wife going to Medellin.
I read la Isla and Loutron have top shelf. Can you share pricing anyone tried it?
Any tips are welcome also will do a quick 2 days in Cartagena.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Get on stripchat that pops up when you log on ISG, my trip is plan for June but been getting WhatsApp numbers from them a couple dudes even message they could get me certain models, and tinder is golden. My next trip is Lisbon in March not getting any love, but them central and South Americans are thirsty. Good Luck.
[QUOTE=RonaldoV7191;2659399]...I read la Isla and Loutron have top shelf. Can you share pricing anyone tried it?
Any tips are welcome also will do a quick 2 days in Cartagena. Thanks.[/QUOTE]All you have to do my friend is read back a couple of pages on this forum, and you will have all the answers you want.
Osteoknot, based on my experience of Latinas, being on the same wavelength as them buys you a lot and explains your recent luck. Jessie seems like a gem. Can you share a bit more about her? Where did you find that little stunner?
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2658933]Some kind of energy nexus point, as yet to be defined. Two more girls came over late and did not expect payment, Scarlet and unbeknownst to me, Super Groovy came-a-knocking on my door after I told Scarlet I wouldn't pay her to visit. I assumed that meant she would not come but I was wrong. That makes six girls in a row. Scarlet has novia status in my line-up so she does not have to be paid but I usually give her at least a hundred mil COP because she is so poor so you can call that one a cheat and I will acquiesce. I still gave Super 40 mil COP for cab fare but she definitely was not expecting it by the expression and sound that came out of her moufus, you know, one of those Scooby Doo's.
So yesterday ended up being a five girl day, way above my average of 3.2 to 3.3 this trip. This really is a different culture here. When Caribe got off her night shift from the Web camming studio this morning, she walked in (I left the door open for her) walked over to my bed, threw the covers back. The first words out of her mouth were, "Why isn't your cock hard?" She then dragged me out of bed, pushed me in the shower before she would have sex with me. I don't know how she knew I had not showered since Scarlet and Super left late last night, but she did. By the time I got out of the shower, she was passed out asleep. Where she is now.
And not to berate the point, but it looks like the 7th girl not expecting payment is coming over later, although I did promise to take her out to eat and to buy her one cute thing to wear, and of course pay taxi. Like a date. And my outlay will be roughly half compared to fair market value of Pay for Play. So of course, there never really is such a thing as "free", we all pay in the end, one way or another.
Why ask why? I am going to ride this wave until it reaches shore and I have no idea how far from the beach I am. Ostee Out and let's Keep On Keepin' On, together. I am running on fumes. Back to the salt mines and time to dig deep..[/QUOTE]
Hi gents,
A fresh apprentice here hoping to gain some practical knowledge. Currently considering a trip back to Colombia late Feb / early March (first visited in Dec 2020).
I'm coming in here with a slightly different angle in the sense that I'm younger than most on here (just hit 30 a month ago) and P4P has been a fantasy of mine for a long time. I'm 6 ft3, in good shape and don't really have issues pulling a girl in a normal way (please don't take it as me being arrogant). I was quite successful during my last trip meeting girls naturally / through Tinder and even met a mixed Colombian / English couple and experienced the best MMF / cuckold fun with them on several occasions (one of the reasons I want to come back to Colombia. I find the women there incredibly sexy in terms of their looks and attitude).
Now, because it is going to be my first mongering experience I'd prefer to meet a girl with the right attitude. A GFE with a hot and feisty Latina, without all the complications and drama of a relationship.
What's the best way of finding the right girl for this? Tinder?
I never see any reference to pages like mileroticos on this forum? What's your experience of using it?
On accommodation, I see most mention hotels. Are there specific reasons you don't feel comfortable using AirBnBs and just bringing the girls to your place?
Lastly, does anyone know the Colombian swinging scene (I'm new to punter lifestyle but definitely not a newbie when it comes to MMF etc.)? Any specific websites / clubs etc that you could recommend? I'd love to experience some group fun again or even possibly a full on GB party on this occasion.
Feel free to send me a pm with any recommendations. All the help will be much appreciated.
[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2659127]I was trying to be helpful but I could have gotten my facts wrong. I was there. I experienced it. My Spanish is good enough to comprehend it. I even asked the chicas I was with at the time if there were different prices on different days, because I did not think their answer made sense the first time and they said "no". Probably, I fucked up. Been known to happen, more than once or twice. I am a Truth Seeker so misinformation cuts me like a knife. Thanks for the help. Lesson learned.[/QUOTE]I took a candy girl there yesterday paid 8 k for the rato.
Ended up fucking her raw I didn't even ask if I could I just went straight from cunilingus to sticking my raw dick inside her ended up BBFS anal and I came in her ass and then she gave me a back massage for like 10 mins and then I was like "quiero mas sexo" and she was like "estoy llena de semen" and I was like "te voy a llenar con mas semen" then I fucked her pussy some more and came in her pussy too. Then she showered and I got dressed. Gave her 40 k COP and she was cool with it. I must have been in the room over an hour but they never knocked. Total damage was 48 k COP.
[QUOTE=Recondite;2659428]I'd say you have some power online on Facebook of Tinder in terms of the story you tell with your profile pictures and profile. So it's not always 2000 to one odds with attractive girls if your profile sticks out from the crowd. A good profile enhances what you have to work with and tells a narrative about you will help you stick out. The story you tell could be "I'm rich", or "I'm a world traveler / adventurous", or "I'm edgy" or as many of you do "I live or spend lots of time in Medellin". I was just watching the Tinder Swindler on Netflix last night. It's gives some interesting insights in what grabs some women's attention on tinder etc.[/QUOTE]The number 2000 is from JB and MiamiBoy but it does not matter that much. I am mainly talking about the asymmetric nature of online dating. Use what you said as an example. I simplify it here and assume you look like Brad Pitt. Do you agree that you will get a lot more swipes than an average looking guy? As a result you already have many choices without effort so you become selective and you don't need to swipe too many woman.
A true centro love story! I love it. Good for you man. Maybe I need to head down there and talk to the candy girls. Nice.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2659482]I took a candy girl there yesterday paid 8 k for the rato.
Ended up fucking her raw I didn't even ask if I could I just went straight from cunilingus to sticking my raw dick inside her ended up BBFS anal and I came in her ass and then she gave me a back massage for like 10 mins and then I was like "quiero mas sexo" and she was like "estoy llena de semen" and I was like "te voy a llenar con mas semen" then I fucked her pussy some more and came in her pussy too. Then she showered and I got dressed. Gave her 40 k COP and she was cool with it. I must have been in the room over an hour but they never knocked. Total damage was 48 k COP.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2659482]I took a candy girl there yesterday paid 8 k for the rato.
Ended up fucking her raw I didn't even ask if I could I just went straight from cunilingus to sticking my raw dick inside her ended up BBFS anal and I came in her ass and then she gave me a back massage for like 10 mins and then I was like "quiero mas sexo" and she was like "estoy llena de semen" and I was like "te voy a llenar con mas semen" then I fucked her pussy some more and came in her pussy too. Then she showered and I got dressed. Gave her 40 k COP and she was cool with it. I must have been in the room over an hour but they never knocked. Total damage was 48 k COP.[/QUOTE]I would say "strong work" but you were having too much fun to call it work, jajaja.
[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2659504]A true centro love story! I love it. Good for you man. Maybe I need to head down there and talk to the candy girls. Nice.[/QUOTE]Yes, the candy girls at the bottom of the heap, literally anything goes with them, and I guess hitting the backdoor without a jimmy hat and blowing loads in them is pretty common.
I've had my share of candy girls, but only opted for the front door with them.