Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Lexb]I am flattered that, who I consider, an excellent ISG poster would "put me in my place"!

Since you don't know me, personally, and don't know exactly where I have or haven't been, I have been to all the places I write about with the exception of Melbourne, Australia and Chisinau, Moldava(but, re-read my reports and do not confuse all my location headings with information and/or opinions given as, on a few occasions, my topic was information requested).

In these two series of opinionated reports, respectively, I gave my personal beliefs about pricing of a particular sexual act and, in the Chisinau thread, responded to, what I considered, a report full of misinformation(actually, lies, is closer to the truth!).

Once again, just my opinion in both, nothing more, nothing less and I don't expect everyone(or anyone) to agree with me but I would be more than happy to change opinions if I was proven incorrect by a contradicting opinion(not just, "mind your own business" or "you don't know what the hell you are talking about", etc.!).

But, Mouse1, attacking me personally by implying that I have contributed little or nothing informational to the website, IMO, is a "cheap shot" and does not represent your usual level of reporting! If you re-read my any of my reports, I hope you will alter your opinion of me, just a little!

Admittedly, I'm not as nearly as good as you but I do try!

Have I angered you that much? If, so, I apologize as I am not mean-spirited by nature but, possibly, to a fault, I try to live my life by thinking in a logical and reasonable manner!

Perhaps, Mouse1, it is a conflict of our interpretation of this website as I rely on it for a source of valuable information and get "put off" when a report goes, what is IMO, way "off topic" with desciptive language with, I consider, no informational value!

Cheers![/QUOTE]
When I looked up "No informational value" in the dictionary, the above report showed up.

Many times, I have read a report, and thought "I should PM or write something in the forum saying what a great / funny / informative / interesting / sad / unfortunate report that was", or whatever the case may be.

Never could be bothered. I file that under "good intentions, but too lazy".

Kumbus reports have been the most fun, enjoyable, interesting reports I have read for a loooooong time. Well written, excellent spelling and grammer (;)), sometimes heart wrenching, but always a good read.

A punter like the rest of us? Of course, nothing more, nothing less. But a punter who can tell a good story. What a lovely change from "where is this", or "how much should I tip", or "this girl loves me, she is different from other girls," and finally, my favorite, "what ATM doesn't charge 150 Bt", etc.

Kumbu's name has come up several times in PM between me and other members, and always in a positive way.

So, Kumbu, thanks for sharing your adventures. Hope there are more to come in the near future, wherever you go next.

[QUOTE=Lexb]

This website's threads would be better served if reports specific to paid sex with SPs,(such as names, vital statistics, locations, prices, availability, opinions on quality of sessions, any problems encountered, etc.!) would be shared in a direct, concise manner without a lot of uninformative "window dressing" added!

Save your "minutial" details script and submit it to Penthouse Magazine, contact details at:

penthousemagazine.com

for "The Penthouse Forum", so "you know who" can read and enjoy them:

Cheers![/QUOTE]
I agree. I'm bothered to start reading a post only to find how some guy is soooo happy to have gotten laid and fallen in love. He has to describe in detail about the whole experience like he's never gotten laid in his whole life.
Who gives a fuck? I don't. I'm interested in new pussy deals and where they can be obtained.

This is about getting pussy. Prices, places, and services provided is all I'm interested in.

The more objective the post the better.

On the flip side, you can always click the ignore button and weed out the love birds! LOL !Happy Hunting!

You said it best in that if people don't like your posts then they don't have to read them.

It's the gays that fingr point and create arguments that should be reported and they wil be droped down to regular member. Look at how many I's are in their reports. So selfish.

Will be in Pattaya in 1 week and curious about the freelance action on beach road. Anyone have a recent observation with ratings and prices?

thanks

lex, it's like this, mate - "pood Thai dai?" If it's "mai dai" then you certainly don't exactly have a lot to contribute to the discussion.

The only people I criticize are those who don't contribute USEFUL information (and, to be honest, I have even done a few reports that fall into that category, so "I are one, too").

So... let's all just get on with it and get over it (wounded pride and all that...)

[QUOTE=Lexb]I am flattered that, who I consider, an excellent ISG poster would "put me in my place"!

Since you don't know me, personally, and don't know exactly where I have or haven't been, I have been to all the places I write about with the exception of Melbourne, Australia and Chisinau, Moldava(but, re-read my reports and do not confuse all my location headings with information and/or opinions given as, on a few occasions, my topic was information requested).

In these two series of opinionated reports, respectively, I gave my personal beliefs about pricing of a particular sexual act and, in the Chisinau thread, responded to, what I considered, a report full of misinformation(actually, lies, is closer to the truth!).

Once again, just my opinion in both, nothing more, nothing less and I don't expect everyone(or anyone) to agree with me but I would be more than happy to change opinions if I was proven incorrect by a contradicting opinion(not just, "mind your own business" or "you don't know what the hell you are talking about", etc.!).

But, Mouse1, attacking me personally by implying that I have contributed little or nothing informational to the website, IMO, is a "cheap shot" and does not represent your usual level of reporting! If you re-read my any of my reports, I hope you will alter your opinion of me, just a little!

Admittedly, I'm not as nearly as good as you but I do try!

Have I angered you that much? If, so, I apologize as I am not mean-spirited by nature but, possibly, to a fault, I try to live my life by thinking in a logical and reasonable manner!

Perhaps, Mouse1, it is a conflict of our interpretation of this website as I rely on it for a source of valuable information and get "put off" when a report goes, what is IMO, way "off topic" with desciptive language with, I consider, no informational value!

Cheers![/QUOTE]Ha ha! Flattery will always win me over! :) And actually I didn't mean to imply that you hadn't been to those places; it was just my poor grammatical style. So apologies for that.

Let's just agree to differ, but as Kumbu says, you don't have to read the reports, and I for one think the world would be a poorer place without them.

Meanwhile, does anyone know of an ATM where I can withdraw cash without being charged?

Gentlemen,
Someone once described my writing style as literary masturbation. I think this pisses some people off, and I understand why. I prefaced my month of reports with the following note,
[post]1025003[/post]
in which I warned people that my reports may not suite everyone's taste. That last paragraph was particularly prophetic.

I think it is time we moved on from this discussion, but not before I do two things. The first is to give a HUGE thanks to all of you who spoke up in my support. I really do appreciate it. It is gratifying to know that my reports were of interest to at least some of you. Second, I want to sum up my thoughts on what this little spat has brought to light. After that, I will move on – I promise. I have two more reports left to post (both on the BKK thread), and then I will be done.

So. To sum up my thoughts, here are some quotes and some quick responses to them.

[QUOTE=Lexb]The minute details of a paid sexual encounter with a Pattaya Thai SP...especially in the long, drawn-out manner you report in, serves no worthwhile purpose...[/QUOTE]Wrong.
[QUOTE=Lexb]This website's threads would be better served if...[/QUOTE]Wrong again.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]This is about getting pussy...The more objective the post the better.[/QUOTE]Different member, but still wrong.
[QUOTE=Hypothetical Kumbu]The only thing worth reading about on this thread is touchy-feely emotional descriptions.[/QUOTE]Different (hypothetical) member, and still wrong.

All these quotes show people assuming that their opinion is universal. Just because *I* want pussy, pussy, pussy, then everyone must also want the same thing. Just because *I* dislike your reports, the website's threads would be better served...And this is further supported by remarks such as these:

[QUOTE=Lexb]I find no worthwhile purpose in it![/QUOTE]Correct.
[QUOTE=Lexb]describing in detail what you did with any SP does not add to my knowledge base![/QUOTE]Correct.

I am sometimes offended by some of the things said by some people (e.g., “Thai girls are only good for fucking! Take em to your room , fuck em, then kick em out. Repeat cycle!”), but not once have I ever told a member that such reports are useless or unwarranted or have no place here. These are opinions, and they will be useful to some people (not me, but to some), and so they should be aired.

Gentlemen, we are all different. Angus Magee, in his most excellent blog (to which there is a link below, and which I highly recommend) has a post about how he can't help but get emotionally involved with P4P girls. This despite knowing full well that nothing will come of it – that he is probably being played by the girls. This is essentially the way I am. Reading his posts and blog, I find solace in knowing that there is at least one other who shares my experience. And if there are two of us, there must be more. This means that such experiences (emotionally charged or otherwise) are a genuine part of this activity we engage in. Just because money exchanges hands does not make me into an automaton. And the fact that some of us engage in this activity in this manner (and not in the pussy, pussy, pussy method espoused by the gentlemen quoted above), makes it relevant. Whether they like it or not.

There is only one person who can tell anyone here what is appropriate on this forum, and that is Jackson. The day he tells me to cut it out, out it shall be cut.

Finally, the various fora of the ISG each have their own vibe, each dictated by the members who populate it. The Thailand forum is populated by a lot of genuine, serious, thoughtful, honest, supportive and knowledgeable gentlemen, and it is these people who provide the bulk of useful posts. But for whatever reason, there is a culture of aggression on this forum that I just don't understand. People cut others down for no productive reason. It's almost as if there is an army of angry men sitting by their computers waiting for someone to post anything, ready to pounce on them and rip them to shreds. Why? Here's a rather pointless example:

My innocuous post:
[post]1025827[/post]
Someone criticizing, with not an ounce of useful information:
[post]1025877[/post]
Me defending my post as being worthwhile (why do I have to do this??)
[post]1026136[/post]
A fine gentleman pointing out that there is no reason to be destructive.
[post]1026181[/post]

So my final thoughts are that I think some on this thread, and the Thailand forum more broadly, are not tolerant or thoughtful of other perspectives. They assume too quickly that theirs is the only legitimate point of view. And that, my friends, in my opinion, is not the kind of forum we should settle for. Many thanks for your indulgence, and many thanks once again for your comments of support.

I am not quite finished - I have two more reports coming up on the BKK thread, and then I will seek comfort in the hollows of my work...until my return to the Land of Beautiful Legs, at which point I vow to report my experiences with as much emotional, subjective, gloriously visceral detail as I can muster.

[QUOTE=Kumbu]The Thailand forum is populated by a lot of genuine, serious, thoughtful, honest, supportive and knowledgeable gentlemen, and it is these people who provide the bulk of useful posts. But for whatever reason, there is a culture of aggression on this board that I just don't understand. People cut others down for no productive reason. It's almost as if there is an army of angry men sitting by their computers waiting for someone to post anything, ready to pounce on them and rip them to shreds. [/QUOTE]Kumbu, I agree, although I think the good far outweighs the bad... But it is widespread on the internet: the computer equivalence of road-rage. We are protected by a little glass screen and feel free to lash out at anyone with differing views. I've done it myself, to my undying shame. And occasionally I think there is value in stamping on some of the more repugnant views expressed very occasionally, which you identified earlier, if only to ensure that new readers don't think that such views are acceptable. But that's just me. Hopefully one of the legacies of your reports and the ensuing debate is the realisation that there is plenty of room for differing opinions.

(Interestingly, I have a difficult meeting to go to in a couple of hours, at which I may go as far as to describe one co-worker as 'unprofessional' or 'unhelpful'. In fact I am seething with rage inside. But that is the real world, and perhaps we would do well to remember some of the real-world niceties.)

Anyway, Kumbu, before I get accused of being touchy-feely, great reports, and I'm really pissed off that we didn't get a chance to meet in BKK. Perhaps next time.

[QUOTE=Mouse1]Meanwhile, does anyone know of an ATM where I can withdraw cash without being charged?[/QUOTE]Well as a matter of fact, I DO!

Just yesterday on Soi 3 just off Sukhummvit Soi 21 at the AEON (you may have heard of them) Branch in Ocean Tower I did withraw 16,000 baht for NO FEE! (4 withrawals a month is just like a free blow job every month!)

But wait! It wasn't as easy as all that. As I approached the vacant alter of no fees, the little alter guard name of Noi, saw that I held in my hand an ordinary Visa ATM card that did not say AEON anywhere on it. She stopped me. You ARE NOT going to put that thing in this slot! My head spun all the way around. WTF??? I thought I was divorced 5 years ago.

But, this being the land of smiles, IF you've got the money, I promised her a nice tip if she allowed me to put the thing in her slot.

She said "I know you are a charter member of the ISG ATM Wankers. Make it 1000 and I'll wank you with this yogurt that I was just going to have for lunch. How could I resist?

And, thanks for asking.

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]: [/b] [blue]This report was deleted because it was an effort to [u]discourage members from posting information[/u]. If you have a concern about information posted by another member, then please contact them privately by PM. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information. [/blue]

Gentlemen I'm shocked - after some eight years of visiting Pattaya and paying only for service rendered, I was hit up for a 'loan'. After some chit chat about when I would next be visiting Pattaya, I was asked by SMS for 1,000 baht, requested to be deposited into the woman's bank account, as a kind of emergency advance on services-to-be-provided.

Of course I didn't respond, though I was very disappointed as the girl is probably the top five service providers I've ever come across.

I feel so dirty - I never gave her any reason to think I'd be a patsy, other than tipping her 100-200 baht.

Really too bad because a tip-top girl in terms of service, one of the five best I've ever had.

Well kumbu, I actually enjoy reading your posts which are informative I've found. To read and aknowledge the situation and feelings which you seem so easily capable to type into words for the rest of us to read is astonishing, and I sincerly congratulate you for doing so.

All this coming from a well travelled and experienced monger such as yourself, I seldon to think what lays ahead for myself since this would be my maiden voyage to LOS.

Sure, alot of us males would admit the reason for going is mostly for the pussy, that perfect shape and form that only a short, slightly dark skinned, petite, almond eyed, full lipped thai girl can produce.

But what about the other reason why we go there that we don't really mention, which I can just imagine the hate posts,.companionship. Surely her being a great fuck and her pussy tasting so good isn't the only reason why we'd LT her night after night again. (oh, well, maybe.)

By the way LittleBigMan, I'm so relieved you were rolling around laughing in your boxers, 'cause I would of been paranoid if you were naked. Hehehehahaha

Really, I'm glad to know someone enjoyed my metaphorical use of ice cream.

A couple of months before my trips I usually research the threads to see what is going on, clubs, name of gals, hotels, etc. However, I see, more and more, anything with even a little value. I am not sure it is even worth it to remain a member.

Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=Henryv]A couple of months before my trips I usually research the threads to see what is going on, clubs, name of gals, hotels, etc. However, I see, more and more, anything with even a little value. I am not sure it is even worth it to remain a member. [/QUOTE]Cool. I look forward to your reports with great excitement.

[QUOTE=Kumbu]Gentlemen,
Someone once described my writing style as literary masturbation. I think this pisses some people off, and I understand why. I prefaced my month of reports with the following note,
[post]1025003[/post]
in which I warned people that my reports may not suite everyone's taste. That last paragraph was particularly prophetic.

I think it is time we moved on from this discussion, but not before I do two things. The first is to give a HUGE thanks to all of you who spoke up in my support. I really do appreciate it. It is gratifying to know that my reports were of interest to at least some of you. Second, I want to sum up my thoughts on what this little spat has brought to light. After that, I will move on – I promise. I have two more reports left to post (both on the BKK thread), and then I will be done.

So. To sum up my thoughts, here are some quotes and some quick responses to them.

Wrong.
Wrong again.
Different member, but still wrong.
Different (hypothetical) member, and still wrong.

All these quotes show people assuming that their opinion is universal. Just because *I* want pussy, pussy, pussy, then everyone must also want the same thing. Just because *I* dislike your reports, the website's threads would be better served...And this is further supported by remarks such as these:

Correct.
Correct.

I am sometimes offended by some of the things said by some people (e.g., “Thai girls are only good for fucking! Take em to your room , fuck em, then kick em out. Repeat cycle!”), but not once have I ever told a member that such reports are useless or unwarranted or have no place here. These are opinions, and they will be useful to some people (not me, but to some), and so they should be aired.

Gentlemen, we are all different. Angus Magee, in his most excellent blog (to which there is a link below, and which I highly recommend) has a post about how he can't help but get emotionally involved with P4P girls. This despite knowing full well that nothing will come of it – that he is probably being played by the girls. This is essentially the way I am. Reading his posts and blog, I find solace in knowing that there is at least one other who shares my experience. And if there are two of us, there must be more. This means that such experiences (emotionally charged or otherwise) are a genuine part of this activity we engage in. Just because money exchanges hands does not make me into an automaton. And the fact that some of us engage in this activity in this manner (and not in the pussy, pussy, pussy method espoused by the gentlemen quoted above), makes it relevant. Whether they like it or not.

There is only one person who can tell anyone here what is appropriate on this forum, and that is Jackson. The day he tells me to cut it out, out it shall be cut.

Finally, the various fora of the ISG each have their own vibe, each dictated by the members who populate it. The Thailand forum is populated by a lot of genuine, serious, thoughtful, honest, supportive and knowledgeable gentlemen, and it is these people who provide the bulk of useful posts. But for whatever reason, there is a culture of aggression on this forum that I just don't understand. People cut others down for no productive reason. It's almost as if there is an army of angry men sitting by their computers waiting for someone to post anything, ready to pounce on them and rip them to shreds. Why? Here's a rather pointless example:

My innocuous post:
[post]1025827[/post]
Someone criticizing, with not an ounce of useful information:
[post]1025877[/post]
Me defending my post as being worthwhile (why do I have to do this??)
[post]1026136[/post]
A fine gentleman pointing out that there is no reason to be destructive.
[post]1026181[/post]

So my final thoughts are that I think some on this thread, and the Thailand forum more broadly, are not tolerant or thoughtful of other perspectives. They assume too quickly that theirs is the only legitimate point of view. And that, my friends, in my opinion, is not the kind of forum we should settle for. Many thanks for your indulgence, and many thanks once again for your comments of support.

I am not quite finished - I have two more reports coming up on the BKK thread, and then I will seek comfort in the hollows of my work...until my return to the Land of Beautiful Legs, at which point I vow to report my experiences with as much emotional, subjective, gloriously visceral detail as I can muster.[/QUOTE]


Kimbu

Post on with your slightly sordid literary prose.

You show appreciation, style and at most times an interesting flavor of the mongering arts. Brown saga excluded......

Personally anyone who enjoys the art of wh.ore mongering as much as you do should be applauded.

Just my .02 baht.

Guido88