Lisbon

Hi Harry.

The thing about this thing of ours is that sometimes what a reviewer talks about has a lot to do with the reviewer himself, and not what actually happened. That was definitely the case with Sofia Amorim, who was a little disappointing. I suppose that guy likes what she brings; I liked it less.

In Luna's case, she definitely has a way she likes to get started, but when I took over she went with me gladly, so I don't know why someone would say she is rigid about what she will do (except for time control -- she keeps things inside the mandated time). I may not agree with all the details on the local board, but YMMV, and I think the consistent 7/8 out of 10 scoring is very on the dot. That is for a lady who has settled on 130/ h, so I think it's pretty fair all things considered.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2899919]It isn't realistic to expect quality outcall in Europe for 120 an hour from quality GFE providers.

A lady in Lisbon will have 45-60 minute of transit time to and from your hotel, plus Uber / Taxi. So you would be asking her to work for 40 euros an hour. That is cheaper than Cambodia, I think.

Portugal is one of the most affordable countries in Europe. If you want an hour for 120-150 euros, you need to go see them, which is the standard in Lisbon.

Among active ads at the moment, here are some excellent GFE choices that should be in the price range you mentioned.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-mavie-8096[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428[/URL]

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-patricia-navarro[/URL]

[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/412217-valentines-day-somente-hj-933-[/URL]

[URL]https://portalprivado.com/pt/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-silvia-nobre[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you for these links and info. From what I gather you say incall prices will be cheaper, however will this mean I have less options to pick from? Or is it the other way round where more do incall as opposed to outcall? I am more than happy to travel to them if this is the case.

Also regrading the links you sent, only 1 has a price of 130 and it says that ad does not exist, silvia nobre comes up with a failed link too. Other than messaging and contacting every single girl on each of the sites, is there a way to filter down based on price range?

Seems silly I know but everywhere I have been before I either go to brothels where the price is set, or when I look online the price is with the persons advert and if they do incall or outcall.

I am happy to message a few I like, but no point in me haggling down to 120 when they are starting at 250 for example.

Appreciate any follow up or you can PM me if easier?

Rex.

[QUOTE=RajaSaurus;2901936]Thank you for these links and info. From what I gather you say incall prices will be cheaper, however will this mean I have less options to pick from? Or is it the other way round where more do incall as opposed to outcall? I am more than happy to travel to them if this is the case.

Also regrading the links you sent, only 1 has a price of 130 and it says that ad does not exist, silvia nobre comes up with a failed link too. Other than messaging and contacting every single girl on each of the sites, is there a way to filter down based on price range?

Seems silly I know but everywhere I have been before I either go to brothels where the price is set, or when I look online the price is with the persons advert and if they do incall or outcall.

I am happy to message a few I like, but no point in me haggling down to 120 when they are starting at 250 for example..[/QUOTE]These are western women. They don't haggle on price at all. If you do that, they will stop communicating with you.

Lisbon doesn't have brothels. When you meet her for incall, it will just be you and her.

All but one of the ads works for me. I identified ladies who offer incall at a price lower than EP's outcall price to help you.

But you need to communicate with them to get current pricing information. The price for you will be the price charged to any customer. Apartadox simply doesn't allow prices to be displayed, whereas ClassificadosX does.

This is how independent incall sex work works in Portugal.

Patricia Navarro was asking 120/ h last I checked. Ines was like 120 or 130. I just wrote up Luna Cardoso, who would be a reasonable second choice to either and asks 130. The links to all of them worked for me.

BTW -- Rafaela Albuquerque recently returned to the scene. She has a strong reputation and is currently charging 120/h


https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-rafaela-albuquerque

Silvia may have gone on a trip, be out sick, have decided she has enough new clients or gone back into retirement. Who knows?

[QUOTE=RajaSaurus;2901936]Thank you for these links and info. From what I gather you say incall prices will be cheaper, however will this mean I have less options to pick from? Or is it the other way round where more do incall as opposed to outcall? I am more than happy to travel to them if this is the case.

Also regrading the links you sent, only 1 has a price of 130 and it says that ad does not exist, silvia nobre comes up with a failed link too. Other than messaging and contacting every single girl on each of the sites, is there a way to filter down based on price range?

Seems silly I know but everywhere I have been before I either go to brothels where the price is set, or when I look online the price is with the persons advert and if they do incall or outcall.

I am happy to message a few I like, but no point in me haggling down to 120 when they are starting at 250 for example.

Appreciate any follow up or you can PM me if easier?

Rex.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2902002]Patricia Navarro was asking 120/ h last I checked. Ines was like 120 or 130. I just wrote up Luna Cardoso, who would be a reasonable second choice to either and asks 130. The links to all of them worked for me.

Silvia may have gone on a trip, be out sick, have decided she has enough new clients or gone back into retirement. Who knows?[/QUOTE]I appreciate both yours and brother Mongerer88 helping me with this. If I do indeed go for incall as you both have stated that is cheaper and easier, I also contact them not to haggle and using the sites you have provided, this will make my experience a lot better.

These sites have many girls / profiles, how do I filter them down based on price when it is not displayed? Or is it the fact that on these sites the ladies are generally priced around the same amount?

Regarding what Mongerer88 said about brothels. You told me to visit Somassagens. This seems to advertise many SPAs. Are these not brothels under another title? On this site some posted about being for massage only, I take that to mean they do not add extra services or offer escort options?

Finally and neither of you 2 may know this. What is the best time of day to go visit 1? Do they work late and get up late? Is it better to be the last punter or the first? If it is better to go at like 3 am, what is public transport like at that time of night?

Please do not think I am just asking and won't give in return, I will be posting about my trip once I return, with who I met and how it went. I think this would be the least I could do.

[QUOTE=RajaSaurus;2902004]I appreciate both yours and brother Mongerer88 helping me with this. If I do indeed go for incall as you both have stated that is cheaper and easier, I also contact them not to haggle and using the sites you have provided, this will make my experience a lot better.

These sites have many girls / profiles, how do I filter them down based on price when it is not displayed? Or is it the fact that on these sites the ladies are generally priced around the same amount?

Regarding what Mongerer88 said about brothels. You told me to visit Somassagens. This seems to advertise many SPAs. Are these not brothels under another title? On this site some posted about being for massage only, I take that to mean they do not add extra services or offer escort options?.[/QUOTE]No problem.

Mavie's two reviews on the local board have her at 80 euros for 30 minutes, with a 30 euro surcharge for anal, if available that day. There are no one hour reviews of her.

Eller Rocha's most recent reviews on the local board have her at 80 euros for 30 minutes and 150 euros for an hour.

You just have to WhatsApp them to see if those rates are current. The place I get burritos from has gone from $7.50 to $11.50 in the last year with $1 increments. We are living in an inflationary era, and sex isn't an exception to that.

Apartadox takes the position that it doesn't want to list prices. So sending WhatsApp messages is a way of life with Portugal. Many of them have an auto reply set up with rates.

While prostitution is legal for the seller and the purchaser in Portugal, many elements of prostitution such as operating a brothel are illegal and occasionally enforced, especially when the government wants to curb illegal immigrants working in the industry. This is likely why you don't find ubiquitous Asian massage parlors and clubs full of Romanians in Portugal. Which brings up the question of spas and line-ups and the availability of full-service at massage parlors. Yes, you will find reports of massage parlors in Lisbon where a guy got a line-up upon request and got full-service, often including CFS, BBBJ including CIM, and even anal sex. But you shouldn't really go in guns blazing and say you want to see every girl and have the ones who do CIM and anal line up on one side like you might do in Thailand. You have to have some grace and even some luck, because not every experience in the spas is the same. If CFS and BBBJ is the goal, and you want to walk in and politely request a line-up for ladies offering the Relaxing Massage, the Nuru Spa has the most favorable reports. But they are more expensive than incall independent escorts.

[URL]https://www.nuruspas.com/en[/URL]

The Nuru Spa is not really open that late at night according to the website. You can ask the various independents how late they take appointments. Lisbon isn't that much of a really late-night city like Madrid is. Hopefully your schedule permits seeing ladies during somewhat normal hours.

Fair enough, Luna's Portalprivado pics may well have been a good representation but when I compare ladies who are on both Apartadox and Portalprivado, it always strikes me how much more attractive they look on Portalprivado.

Just doing a quick check now of ladies such as Luna Reiz, Karol Prado and Nicole Splatz, they all look better on Portalprivado. I wouldn't say their Apartadox pics are out of date, its specifically the brighter lighting and magnifying of bodily curves on Portalprivado which makes the pictures more appealing.

I remember I saw a lady last year who looked incredible on Portalprivado, but in reality she looked more like her Apartadox pics.

Thanks for the positive affirmation of Luna, I may try and see her when next there although there are a few others I wish to see ahead of her.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2901876]I want to make this crystal clear: Luna's Portalprivado shoots were all very accurate. In fact, her first one -- where she did geek girl with glasses -- was most authentic to her personality.

Aurora Vaz only advertises on PP, and her shoots are 100% accurate. PP is the only ad site Isis Lisboa keeps up to date, and her shoots are accurate. Patricia Navarro prefers PP, as do her chosen partners for duos. Those shoots are honest. Etc etc etc.

The main problem with Portugal's photo-verified sites isn't misleading photoshoots, but old, out of date photoshoots. A lot of folks who aren't regularly in Portugal and therefore watching these things may not know that ad was shot three years ago, and the lady doesn't look like that anymore. The second worst problem is the way EP allows their truly bad actors to change names and stay on the roster -- tracking them is a pain in the ass.

The one time I have felt misled by the photos was with Apartadox, not Portalprivado. When I compare the two, I see two different styles, but one isn't really more "misleading" than the other.[/QUOTE]

I met with Amanda Marques today. It was a good time. I was impressed by the pics on the site of her body. Her body was even better in person. 120/ HR, owo, DATY had a good time, massage and left a happy man. MSOG is available. I don't think that you can go wrong with Amanda. Aurora Vaz tired to charge me 180 for an incall and I passed. I really like spinners anyone have intel on Sophie?

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/escorts/escorts-lisboa/escort-sofia-scarlett[/URL]

Thanks.

I met with Amanda Marques today. It was a good time. I was impressed by the pics on the site of her body. Her body was even better in person. 120/ HR, owo, DATY had a good time, massage and left a happy man. MSOG is available. I don't think that you can go wrong with Amanda. Aurora Vaz tired to charge me 180 for an incall and I passed. I really like spinners anyone have intel on Sophie?

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/escorts/escorts-lisboa/escort-sofia-scarlett[/URL]

Thanks.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/flora-neves/646062/[/URL]

I wanted to have a quality GFE and spend time with someone as the focal point of the meet, and she delivered in that regard. Very much enjoyed the conversations while she was looking at me with that intense stare, sitting meekly between my legs during OWO. Sometimes I felt as if she maybe tried to slack on the activities, but it could be that was her just trying to keep the mood going, because she herself confirmed that she feels me very well, I. E. Knows how far I am from climax.

She kisses with just a little bit of her tongue, and despite me asking her a couple of times to include more of it she kept it mostly the same, which makes me believe that's just how she does it, I. E. Doesn't know how to do it differently. I'm a conventionally attractive guy and she for sure tried to please in general, so I feel like that's just as good as I could've gotten out of her. I would've preferred more passion in that regard, but it does remind me of my youth and inexperience, which kinds of makes it sweet.

There's one thing that people reported on the local forums, but I can't quite recall seeing in here: she has a distinct bitter smell on her once she starts going, the kind you associate with nervousness, even if she doesn't show it. It's not a problem for me, but I believe it's something people should be aware of. Thinking about it now, I kind of wish I tried to lick it off her, which is a first for me as I'm not at all into kinks.

After helping me finish she came back to me to cuddle and stayed with me well over the agreed period just talking, laughing, sharing stuff with me, and just in general being a sweetheart. This, on top of being able to discern genuine compliments, makes me want to become her regular.

Oh, nevermind Sofia -- she wants 200/ h for either incall or outcall. The girl has serious GPS.

That is a shame about Aurora. If she raised her incall to 180, well, that is unwarranted given that the incall range is 120-150. And if she was trying to do a tourist tax, that is just plain obnoxious.

[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;2902026]I met with Amanda Marques today. It was a good time. I was impressed by the pics on the site of her body. Her body was even better in person. 120/ HR, owo, DATY had a good time, massage and left a happy man. MSOG is available. I don't think that you can go wrong with Amanda. Aurora Vaz tired to charge me 180 for an incall and I passed. I really like spinners anyone have intel on Sophie?

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/escorts/escorts-lisboa/escort-sofia-scarlett[/URL]

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;2902027]I met with Amanda Marques today. It was a good time. I was impressed by the pics on the site of her body. Her body was even better in person. 120/ HR, owo, DATY had a good time, massage and left a happy man. MSOG is available. I don't think that you can go wrong with Amanda. Aurora Vaz tired to charge me 180 for an incall and I passed. I really like spinners anyone have intel on Sophie?

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/escorts/escorts-lisboa/escort-sofia-scarlett[/URL]

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Classic good news and bad news.

The good news is that Sofia Scarlett got an 8 out of 10 in her only review on the local board based on her actually being a very hot 18-22 year old just like the pictures show.

The very bad news is that she is CBJ only, didn't even do much oral despite the condom being on, and checked constantly to see if the condom was still on during vaginal.

She was 200 euros an hour.

And when you look closer, an 8 out of 10 is actually the lowest score that reviewer gives out. Most of his other reviews are 9's out of 10.

So personally I would do a hard pass on her, given the importance of BBBJ to me.

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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2902133]Oh, nevermind Sofia -- she wants 200/ h for either incall or outcall. The girl has serious GPS.

That is a shame about Aurora. If she raised her incall to 180, well, that is unwarranted given that the incall range is 120-150. And if she was trying to do a tourist tax, that is just plain obnoxious.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up on Sofia. Yes, Aurora was hitting me with the tourist tax. I am meeting Becky Diniz this afternoon. .

[QUOTE=NoTimezone;2902171]Looking for reviews for [URL=https://escortprivada.com/escort/leticia-ramos/]Leticia Ramos[/URL]. If anyone has anything to share, please do.[/QUOTE]Leticia Ramos is Iris / Mara Freitas, she just changed her name.