East China - Shanghai

After finding several BBS on Hang Nan Lu, I continued to explore this neighborhood, located to the north of the Hangzhong Road metro station (line 10). Located a string of six BBS on Hang Xin Lu between Hang Bei Lu and G50 Huyu Expressway. The gals are younger, better looking and better dressed than the ladies in the Hang Nan Lu BBS. On Hang Xin Lu the services are not provided onsite. After making a selection you walk with the lady to nearby apartments. BBBJ and FS for 200 RMB. I tried ladies from three of the shops. Excellent service from beauties!

[QUOTE=Arizona123;1293975]If this is your 1st time there it is better to go during the day. I had exactly the same experience as you. You can't see shit at night. It's perfectly fine to walk in there, check out the goods and if nothing is to your liking, just say thank you and leave. Someone will jump right up and try to point to the back and lead you there. This is the girl that's is next in line. It is ok to pick someone else, and ok to turn around and walk out.[/QUOTE]Thank you Arizona, I will try to do like you said next time, hope my "little brother" will give me enough courage. Feel curious to test the big titted babe you mentionned before (second BBS from left).

Last Friday, I also went to the "flying dragon bar" near Mannathan, very bad experience, girls very pushy and get angry easily if refuse to buy her the 100rmb drink.

Tried some girls bar in Pudong area at Chang Yi Lu (there is a row of many bars and a DVD shop (LOL) between them). Had fortunately good experience with the one called "coyote.", friendly girls, smiling and not too pushy. But these bar are clearly not "taking home" bars, but more a place for having fun with sexy girls.

Last November, a guy was fallowing during few minutes in front of my Hotel with "massage? Sexy girls? Sex?", since my little bro was in good mood, I've decided to accept his offer. He called someone one his phone, then we were waiting in the street during 15/20 mins then 2 cabs arrived, with 2 nice hookers. I choose one (very cute, from Shichuan) for 1400rmb whole night (she gave 400rmb to the guy).

Honestly, I'm a bit tired of escort agency, because they don't know the "what you see is what you get", pictures are fake in worst case, and better case photoshoped.

Nothing better than choosing "in real life" your girl.

Peace

I know you are trying hard, but you do need to spend more time to read and learn from other mongering brothers.

First, there are only a few pick-up bars like Manhattan. The others are "buy me a drink" bars, where the girls will only chat and drink with you. Most of the time you would not even be able to hold their hands after spending hundreds and hundreds of mao's. If that is what you want, it is of course OK. If not, you are simply wasting your time and money.

Second, RMB 1400 for overnight is very expensive. For the same price, you can visit a sauna twice, go to a BBS 6-7 times, get a nice massage with HJ 5-6 times, or even find a good Viet from Manhattan.

Escort agency will almost never give you the girl in the picture. If you can live with that kind of "uncertainty", it is OK. But most of the time they are overpriced and provide very mechanical services.

[QUOTE=Aniki88; 1294216]Thank you Arizona, I will try to do like you said next time, hope my "little brother" will give me enough courage. Feel curious to test the big titted babe you mentionned before (second BBS from left).

Last Friday, I also went to the "flying dragon bar" near Mannathan, very bad experience, girls very pushy and get angry easily if refuse to buy her the 100rmb drink.

Tried some girls bar in Pudong area at Chang Yi Lu (there is a row of many bars and a DVD shop (LOL) between them). Had fortunately good experience with the one called "coyote.", friendly girls, smiling and not too pushy. But these bar are clearly not "taking home" bars, but more a place for having fun with sexy girls.

Last November, a guy was fallowing during few minutes in front of my Hotel with "massage? Sexy girls? Sex?", since my little bro was in good mood, I've decided to accept his offer. He called someone one his phone, then we were waiting in the street during 15/20 mins then 2 cabs arrived, with 2 nice hookers. I choose one (very cute, from Shichuan) for 1400rmb whole night (she gave 400rmb to the guy).

Honestly, I'm a bit tired of escort agency, because they don't know the "what you see is what you get", pictures are fake in worst case, and better case photoshoped.

Nothing better than choosing "in real life" your girl.

Peace[/QUOTE]

Dear All,

Actually I want to help you guys to get action with the best value available. , I'm from indonesia, I can understand english (not really good at writing though) , and speak mandarin.

There is a way to get a satisfaction service as the escort service / sauna service give, with cheaper price.

I guess you guys know about QQ girl right?

I know what you think, that they all fake. It's not true. There's also a gold mine there. Best quality, best service, best value (price)

If you are a member than you can look at the picture I upload. I don't know if its good enough for your taste. But good enough for me.

This picture are real,

And for 300 RMB 90 min you can get service such as :

1. Bath together,

2. Cosplay,

3. Rubbing using tits,

4. Ice and fire (oral sex using the cold and hot water)

5. Using tongue lick your whole body (cat bath)

6. Use pantyhose massage your xxx (more like a foot job?)

7. 69.

8. Off course the main course.

9. You can cum on face, or body, etc.

Overnight is 800 RMB. You can cum as much as you like.

Not like the escort service, you can't see their profile, in QQ girl you can see who is going to give you the service.

The cons :

Most of them don't do out-call and you have to go to their place (mostly because safety reason). I don't know if you have high standard over this kind of things. But if you don't mind. Then is a very good deal.

I don't mind share all the information that I can find with you guys. And help you arrange the meeting. Usually you have to go to the nearest subway station and give her a call, then she will direct you, or someone will pick you up.

Why you want to invest your time study mandarin? Well this thing surely paid it off. Haha.

I don't know if this information is useful for you all. I don't want to make it like an advertisement or so.

If you don't have the problem speaking mandarin. The qq of the girl is : 1164260847 she live in pudong. You can contact her directly.

Dear all! Greetings!

I will be in Shanghai from June 26- 28. I will be there in PUDONG NEW AREA near SINEC.

My first time in Shanghai-China.

Can anyone guide me of Night scene / massage parlor / FS / Escort services.

Much appreciated.

Cheers

After a round in Thailand and Korea, its good to be back in the Shang.

Hooked up with my regular massage girl. Rainy night, and she comes to me. Couple hours FS + a nice massage. 400rmb.

For all you who are working the bar scene. ChangYi Lu and similar. The girls will drink your wallet and leave you blue balled. Good fun, but do not expect to take 'them home. Manhattan = Viet heaven. 1000 ST. 1500 LT. On the high end of spending.

I am off to find some new places. Will report back soon.

SH

[QUOTE=ShangHangin; 1294608]For all you who are working the bar scene. ChangYi Lu and similar. The girls will drink your wallet and leave you blue balled. Good fun, but do not expect to take 'them home.

SH[/QUOTE]My experience is somewhat different. I've found that many of the girls in Changyi Lu (and similar) bars are available, but you have to go according to the bar rules. As others have commented, their main purpose in life is to drain your wallet by getting you to buy drinks for them, their friends, and anyone else they can find to swell the bill. Changyi Lu used to be low-pressure in that respect but they all seemed to get more pushy last summer, as a result of which I simply stopped going for several months and told the owners why. (Even at its worst it was never as bad as the nearby "Office" complex on Pudong Avenue. Most of those bars and girls seem to have relocated around the corner from Manhattan where they do their screaming harpie act as Aniki88 described). To get back to the point, the bar owners want the girls there earning money until the very last customer leaves. If you want to arrange to take them out you'll either have to wait until close to dawn or pay quite heavily for "lost income". I know one bar insists the girl earns ten drinks before she leaves, so you're looking at a barfine of 500 or 600 rmb. On top of whatever you negotiate with the girl for her time. It is not difficult to arrange this. If your appearance and behaviour are not too scary you can ask one of the girls who is available. Last weekend I was actually asked if I needed a "take-out" as closing time approached, and invited to indicate who I might prefer. As long as you treat the girl well and pay the agreed amount word will get around and you won't need to go home alone too often.

At the other end of the bar scene I was in a high-end hotel bar a few weeks ago and saw a neatly dressed girl sitting at the bar, could have been a business lady but turned out to be a very discreet working girl. Nice person and very good at her job. How can you not respect a girl whose waking words are "good morning, I give you blow job!". She doesn't want publicity, I mention this just to remind us that opportunities are all around!

R

Anyone interested hunting QQ girl together?

I have lots of them. No time to check them all. And limited cash hahaha.

The pros :

Cheap 300/800, good service (SPA service) , GFE (for sure and you can have a cosplay also, foot job. You can cum on their face also. Haha for hardcore) .9-10 face. Not kidding here. Real deal.

The cons :

Well you need to go to their place, no out call.

If you want to try this experience.

. I can send you their picture. And explain to you their service. Some will do anal, some won't, some even can cum on their mouth. Arrange the meeting, I can take you to their place (I know sometimes new stuff can be scary, and the Chinese have the reputation on fooling laowai).

. I don't know if I can post my number / yahoo messenger here. Maybe you can sent me a PM?

I upload one of their photo.

I will go to beijing on 22-24 for vacation. I'm from indonesia, can speak both mandarin and english. This forum help me become the man I am now. Haha, so its time to payback to community.

Good bye buying "cat's in the bag".

-

One of those girls can move down the street to a massage place or sauna, and work under a different pay structure, but their daily lives tend to be so entrenched in routine and total lack of privacy. Taking a punter home, for instance, entails the rest of your pack knowing you're not coming home, you're earning more, your manager wanting a cut,"face" (not surprisingly, crucial in that subculture) , and safety. Every one of them carries the memory of a nightmare client entrenched and the medical bills alone counter any profit you would be making. Relocating to a new KTV / BBS is usually a result of a major mess involving the hunch of this punter being the pot of gold that went awry.

Does this make them innocent and "good girls"? Hell no. Instead, it more often than not makes them jaded, burdened by trust issues, and barely surviving. Though wearing hooker heels and with a phone full of potential suitors to fall back on or get trapped into.

Most importantly, it's sometimes hard for us to understand that Shanghai is very much a buyer's market. The average local is not going to pay just any girl 10. 20 percent of his monthly salary for a night with a girl he's already typefaced as a loose woman. The er nai's tend to be a fairly exclusive club and have successfully broken away from the pack mentality in which most of these girls operate. Any of you who go to KTV's with your Chinese clients / managers, you can see the girls in the line ups for yourselves. There are so many of them, and the locals don't see them as much more than lubricants for Anhui businessmen not quite on par with the Wenzhou and Fujian superstars of Xuhui and Jingan.

Anyway, I do hope this has lent a bit of a background to some of what you may see. This is an area of Shanghai that has survived the Expo and seems to still operate under a pre-2008 code. Foreigners are still a bit of a novelty here, so for any of the brothers, come, treat the ladies with respect, play safe, and let me know if you should ever decide to take the trip.

I will post more reports in due time, and cheers for the finally fruitful discussions on the boards.

Stay safe.

Goat

I'm in Shanghai next week for a couple of days, staying at the HI Pudong and wondered what action there was locally. My first time in China so don't know what to expect but a friend said that he found girls always hanging around the bar in the hotel.

Recently spent a few days in Shanghai with a few good mates. All westerners in our mid-late 30's. We were well researched, but generally had very little previous Shanghai experience. After RTFF we prepared the following list of destinations for recommended activities. I have commented on our experience below.

HOTEL.

Sofitel Hyland Shanghai. 505 Nanjing Road East.

Sofitel Hyland was in a great location for shopping and sight-seeing. Contrary to some reports observed in the Shanghai Hotel thread. This hotel was girl friendly. After about 10pm, the security guy asked to take details from the girl's passport. Before about 10pm, we would just walk through as if we were a couple. There were some good rates at this hotel and we stayed on an Exec Floor meaning that we had access to the Exec Lounge which included free booze and food in the afternoons and evenings, plus breakfast in the mornings.

SAUNAS.

Visited Bodi. The Pudong Soapy Spa at Bodi Hotel. Entrance is to left side of hotel. Arrived at 2pm on a Sunday. Price was 880 RMB. Typical soapy.

Change into the robe in the changing room and leave your belongings in a locker. Then lead to a relaxation room. I waited for about 5 minutes here before boredom set-in and I navigated myself to the line-up. Good line-up of about 20 women of 7's. 8's. Chose No. 236. A tall and pretty Chinese with natural D-cups. Started with an assisted shower, then to the wet bed for cat-bath, body to body, BBBJ, rejected to offer of the anal play and rimming, cow-girl, reverse cow-girl, doggie, mish to finish. Overall, a highly recommended experience for a Shanghai newbie. Great service from No. 236 is recommended if you like her looks.

Other Spa's noted in the forum by other members include:

My Spa. 229 MingYue Lu (Corner of BaiHua Lu).600RMB 90mins. FS or M&BBBJx2.

2XG Spa. Shuangmei Sauna (on Wuyi Lu and Dingxi Lu).2XG FS 800RMB.

Sacrosa. 580RMB Before 6pm. 680RMB After 6pm. Not Soapy. Can be a little tricky to find, since its set back into the plaza where its located, next to the Yaohan (Ba Bai Ban) Mall with KFC, Pizza Hut and Hagen Das. When you enter the plaza square where there are statues of elephants and other random things, walk toward the back of the plaza off the main street and you'll see a roundish building to your left, behind the mall where Wagas is. Go into the central door and there are two elevators in the lobby. Go to the 5th floor.

General Sauna Prices are advised in the forum as 600RMB 60min. 800RMB 90min.

FREELANCER BARS.

Manhattan was our freelancer bar of choice for reliable take-outs on a couple of evenings. Address: 154 NanYang Road near XiKang Road Jing an &21335; &38451; &36335; 154&21495; (&36817; &35199; &24247; &36335.

Solid selection of talent from Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines and the odd Nigerian. The boys did not have much trouble finding 8's and 9's in the 20-25 year age range, however there were lots of 6's. 7's with a general age of about 25-40 years. Prices were 1000RMB-1500RMB range LT.

Other freelancer bars that were on our list are included below, however we never needed to visit any of these bars, so I cannot comment on value:

Big Bamboo (Apparently Good Food & Band. Good BMD Bar)

Malone's (Older Birds. Visit Malone's for a beer and food before Manhattan. Tong Ren Lu. Jing an.)

Judy's (Older Birds. Jing an.)

Zapata's (Older Birds. Heng Shen Lu.)

Brown Sugar / Xin Tian Di for African Women (We did visit here quickly, however the quality was 2's-4's generally aged 30-45 years. Ouch!).

KTV.

After RTFF we cautiously proceeded to test Shanghai's shark-infested KTV waters. We made a reservation for arrival at 10pm at the KTV at the Rendezvous Hotel Shanghai Merry, however we received a call at the last moment to cancel. We suspect that a regular customer may have turned up to take the room. Our concierge kindly helped reserve a KTV room for 7ppl at the KTV Business Club 2F 1045 Shanghai Huaihai Road near Fenyang Road. The phone number is 13795441281. We pre-negotiated a 1200RBM Per Person. Included room, drinks, everything included, etc. However, upon departure, it was clear that the staff expected that tips would be in addition to the 1200RMB per person. So this realistically increased to about 1300RMB per person. Line-Up included about 20 women aged 18-25 years mostly 7's. 8's. Some of the boys organised take-out's. The take-out's were not full fee, but rather were simply freebies or a 300RMB taxi fare. Basically, we wanted to try the local KTV experience. And overall, it was a good experience. Previous forum posters advise that you should pre-negotaite costs to try and avoid a massive up-sell and a massive bill. If you do have a problem, call police by dialling 110.

Other KTV's that were on our list are included below. We did not visit any of these:

Suggestion: Rendezvous Hotel Shanghai Merry. 396 Yan An West Road Shanghai. Phone: +86 21* 6249 5588.

Suggestion: KTV in Everbright Hotel is good. 1100RMB per Person including room, booze and tips. Take out is 1000ST and 1500LT. Advise intentions to Mamasan before choosing. Everbright Hotel. 66 Cao Bao Road, Xuhui District. Hotel Tel: +86-21-6484250.

Suggestion: 919 on the corner of Shanxi Lu and Jiujiang Lu. Pre-Negotiate. 1200RBM Per Person. Includes room, drinks, everything included, etc.

Suggestion: On corner between Whei Hai Lu and Shimen Lu. Pre-Negotiate. 1200RBM Per Person. Includes room, drinks, everything included, etc.

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LOCALS FREEBIE BARS / REGULAR NIGHT CLUBS.

Club 88 was our freebies bar of choice. Address: (&20301; &20110; &23500; &27665; &36335; 291&21495; &24735; &38182; &22823; &21414; 2&27004; (&36817; &38271; &20048; &36335. Fumin Lu / Changle Lu. 10mins Walk & 1km from Manhattan)

Great dance club with high quality women aged 20-30 years. We noticed that the freebies seemed to clear out at some point in the early morning with freelancers remaining. So there is freelance action here also. Picking-up here as a westerner was not really a problem. Assuming that you have got a little game in you.

Other freebie bars / regular night clubs that were on our list are included below. Most seem to be located near Tong ren Lu, Yong Fu Lu near Fuxing Lu.

Blue Sky Bar (Tongren Lu & Nanyang Lu)

Richy (Fuxing Park)

Babyface (Huai Hai Lu)

Muse 2 & 3 (not Muse 1) (Jing an)

Guandii.

El Cocktail.

The Appartment.

Shiva lounge.

Bling.

Park 97 (Fuxing Park)

Richbaby. 1 / F, Infiniti Plaza. 138 Huaihai Zhong Lu.

BUND BARS.

We visited Shanghai during a major event and so the Bund bars were humming. We generally quite liked these bars. There were lots of freebies and a healthy supply of freelancers. The freelancers were from Eastern Europe, Turkey and the odd African. Freebies were from all over the world with a healthy supply of middle-class or upper-class Chinese. We visited Bar Rouge a few times with good results. Again, LT for 1500RMB.

Other Bund bars on our list but not visited include:

Muse 1.

M1nt.

Lounge 18.

Bar Rouge (In the same building as Lounge 18. Located at 18 Bund.

Laris (also in another building in a walking distance from Lounge 18)

Jan George (also in another building in a walking distance from Lounge 18)

BMD BARS.

We did not visit BMD Bars in Shanghai. However the key headlines are:

Buy 2-3 Drinks Max at 100RMB Each. Max spend 200RMB-300RMB and all should be good. For this amount, you should be entitled to a fondle, kiss and pantie play with your new friend.

BMD Bars may be found across the road from the Hilton Shanghai (Hua Shan Lu).

BBS PUDONG.

We did not visit any BBS. However, we would have visited the BBS Pudong Century Park (apparently this is supposed to be good for 1st time).

BBBJ +FS 200-300 RMB. 20mins.

Only FS 250 RMB. 20mins.

HJ 50 RMB. 20mins.

Other posters highlight that Pudong BBS's are located on Yinghua Lu. Street starts at the intersection of Baiyang Lu and Yinghua Lu. Easily accessible from the Line 2 Century Park metro station. 5 minutes walk from exits 2. If you exit Line 2, you can walk west on Meihua Lu to Baiyang Lu. Hang a right and when you hit Yinghua Lu, hang another right. The four BBS will be on the right hand side of the street within the first block. Pronounce 'Chow Bay' upon entering the door. Which directly translated means 'knock back', like the old style fist knocking on back. Apparently this is good value.

SCAMS.

We were warned by members in the Shanghai forum about scams and saw lots of it o Nanjing Road.

Basically, if you get approached by anyone in the street. It's a scam. If you get taken to a restaurant or bar by someone. It's a scam. The standard operation is a 20 year old cutie will start talking to you in the street and ask about your plans. She will suggest a coffee, tea or meal. She chooses the cafe or restaurant and you get landed with a bill from the cafe / restaurant owner with a massive bill. Your new friend will split this 50/50 after you leave with your tail between your legs.

[QUOTE=Dudut; 1294890]Anyone interested hunting QQ girl together?

I have lots of them. No time to check them all. And limited cash hahaha.

The pros :

Cheap 300/800, good service (SPA service) , GFE (for sure and you can have a cosplay also, foot job. You can cum on their face also. Haha for hardcore).9-10 face. Not kidding here. Real deal.

The cons :

Well you need to go to their place, no out call.

If you want to try this experience.

I can send you their picture. And explain to you their service. Some will do anal, some won't, some even can cum on their mouth. Arrange the meeting, I can take you to their place (I know sometimes new stuff can be scary, and the Chinese have the reputation on fooling laowai).

I don't know if I can post my number / yahoo messenger here. Maybe you can sent me a PM?

I upload one of their photo.

I will go to beijing on 22-24 for vacation. I'm from indonesia, can speak both mandarin and english. This forum help me become the man I am now. Haha, so its time to payback to community.

Good bye buying "cat's in the bag".

-[/QUOTE]I tried to send you a PM, but not possible.

Happy hunting. Have you tried this lovely, for only 200 kuai?

[QUOTE=Dudut; 1294890]Anyone interested hunting QQ girl together?

I have lots of them. No time to check them all. And limited cash hahaha.

I will go to beijing on 22-24 for vacation. I'm from indonesia, can speak both mandarin and english. This forum help me become the man I am now. Haha, so its time to payback to community.

Good bye buying "cat's in the bag".

-[/QUOTE]Would be great to go hunting QQ girls together. I speak Mandarin too. But you're a regular member, can't leave you messages.

[QUOTE=Toolkit;1295127]Recently spent a few days in Shanghai with a few good mates. All westerners in our mid-late 30's. We were well researched, but generally had very little previous Shanghai experience. After RTFF we prepared the following list of destinations for recommended activities. I have commented on our experience below.[/QUOTE]This contribution has to go in the Report of Distinction and will go! A comprehensive resume lots of newbie should read before asking questions. Thanks Toolkit for this job.

[QUOTE=Pushkin13; 1295159]I tried to send you a PM, but not possible.

Happy hunting. Have you tried this lovely, for only 200 kuai?[/QUOTE]True veteran, but unfortunately my research skills are not up to par to yours. Mind sharing some QQ info and I'll report back. I tried searching through some of the Chinese websites, but no luck with some of the girls as I get more bad experiences than good.