Lisbon

Not great when someone wants to "fact check" the dates but then proceeds to give inaccurate dates (also not great in light of me clearly wording my post to suggest it was an estimation).

I can see a chap on a forum having reviewed her in 2019. So to state no reviews before "early 2020" is inaccurate.

My suggestion that her EP pictures are probably almost 10 years old may not be accurate but it was a guess based on my seeing her in the flesh last year. It could be that they are approximately 5 years old.

Anyhow, the most important point I wanted to convey, was that she looks more like her classificados pictures (which show a quite different body to those on EP). Hopefully that came across to those who were interested. She may not be a "leathery veteran" but she is early 30's in my opinion and has been in the game since 2019 or earlier.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2912112]Joana Montenegro was probably an EP newcomer some months before the Pandemic -- say middle 2019?

No review of her dates to before early 2020.

And finally, the current photoshoot is her third, if I recall correctly. It is at least two years old. Anyone interested in doing a little homework can verify the earlier photoshoots and the review dates with even a brief, properly worded search.

I won't comment on her looks, since I have no direct experience of them. But she is absolutely not some leathery veteran who was working Lisbon back in 2014. I should know; I was there at the time. The idea that the photoshoot is that old is pure balderdash.[/QUOTE]

Trolls going to troll.

Yet another inaccurate post.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2912112]Joana Montenegro was probably an EP newcomer some months before the Pandemic -- say middle 2019?

No review of her dates to before early 2020.

And finally, the current photoshoot is her third, if I recall correctly. It is at least two years old. Anyone interested in doing a little homework can verify the earlier photoshoots and the review dates with even a brief, properly worded search.

I won't comment on her looks, since I have no direct experience of them. But she is absolutely not some leathery veteran who was working Lisbon back in 2014. I should know; I was there at the time. The idea that the photoshoot is that old is pure balderdash.[/QUOTE]For what it's worth, I saw Joana a few times in 2023 and she mentioned she was 29. I would have guessed somewhere between 28-30. As Harry mentioned, the selfies on Classificados are the most accurate photos. She's a very attractive woman for sure but not as young as advertised, which might bother some.

No idea how long she's been working. Don't think that really matters when it comes to quality of service.

I always thought she looked like Rae Dawn Chong in Commando, which is the most 80's reference I've ever come up with.

Yes the Rae Dawn Chong resemblance is not a bad shout!

Agree completely that her service is what's important rather than how long she's been working. I enjoyed the meet with her, and tried to see her again on a recent trip but she only had late evening availability for several days which didn't work for me (I'll update shortly on other ladies I saw).

It's a shame her EP details are not as representative as they could be, fortunately I still found her attractive last year.

[QUOTE=PER23;2912434]For what it's worth, I saw Joana a few times in 2023 and she mentioned she was 29. I would have guessed somewhere between 28-30. As Harry mentioned, the selfies on Classificados are the most accurate photos. She's a very attractive woman for sure but not as young as advertised, which might bother some.

No idea how long she's been working. Don't think that really matters when it comes to quality of service.

I always thought she looked like Rae Dawn Chong in Commando, which is the most 80's reference I've ever come up with.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PER23;2912434]For what it's worth, I saw Joana a few times in 2023 and she mentioned she was 29. I would have guessed somewhere between 28-30. As Harry mentioned, the selfies on Classificados are the most accurate photos. She's a very attractive woman for sure but not as young as advertised, which might bother some.

No idea how long she's been working. Don't think that really matters when it comes to quality of service.

I always thought she looked like Rae Dawn Chong in Commando, which is the most 80's reference I've ever come up with.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reference point on Joanna Montenegro.

[URL]https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-commando-year-1985-director-mark-l-lester-rae-dawn-chong-10271518.html[/URL]

I think Sara Valente looks amazingly like this girl who reviewed the various breakfast sandwiches at McDonalds.

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/tried-8-mcdonalds-breakfast-sandwiches-130800780.html[/URL]

These give people a better idea of what to expect when they hear the knock, knock on the hotel room door.

With women of Portuguese and Northern African heritage in Lisbon, expect some big hair and some big noses. For Brazilians, expect some big butts, too.

I think the American tourists who express some disappointment in the looks of Portuguese providers think that every European woman looks like the Scandinavian lady featured in 1980's sex comedies directed at men. Those movies always had a 18-year year old tall, blond, busty European foreign exchange student girl who had arrived in the United States and lived with her host family who had teens who went to her new high school. The foreign exchange student would walk around topless after her morning shower while the boys would look longingly at her and the girls would be jealous, before the host family parents would inform her that American traditions forbid this. I have serious doubts that this ever occurred in real life, or that busty Scandinavian high school senior girls in their native lands walk around the house topless.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2912459]I think the American tourists who express some disappointment in the looks of Portuguese providers think that every European woman looks like the Scandinavian lady featured in 1980's sex comedies directed at men. Those movies always had a 18-year year old tall, blond, busty European foreign exchange student girl who had arrived in the United States and lived with her host family who had teens who went to her new high school. The foreign exchange student would walk around topless after her morning shower while the boys would look longingly at her and the girls would be jealous, before the host family parents would inform her that American traditions forbid this. I have serious doubts that this ever occurred in real life, or that busty Scandinavian high school senior girls in their native lands walk around the house topless.[/QUOTE]What an overdose of totally silly stereotypes!

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2912575]What an overdose of totally silly stereotypes![/QUOTE]Yes, but the American teen males seemed to enjoy this stereotype when the American censors finally allowed bare breasts in are rated movies in the 1980's.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2912459]Thanks for the reference point on Joanna Montenegro.

[URL]https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-commando-year-1985-director-mark-l-lester-rae-dawn-chong-10271518.html[/URL]

I think Sara Valente looks amazingly like this girl who reviewed the various breakfast sandwiches at McDonalds.

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/tried-8-mcdonalds-breakfast-sandwiches-130800780.html[/URL]

These give people a better idea of what to expect when they hear the knock, knock on the hotel room door.

With women of Portuguese and Northern African heritage in Lisbon, expect some big hair and some big noses. For Brazilians, expect some big butts, too.

I think the American tourists who express some disappointment in the looks of Portuguese providers think that every European woman looks like the Scandinavian lady featured in 1980's sex comedies directed at men. Those movies always had a 18-year year old tall, blond, busty European foreign exchange student girl who had arrived in the United States and lived with her host family who had teens who went to her new high school. The foreign exchange student would walk around topless after her morning shower while the boys would look longingly at her and the girls would be jealous, before the host family parents would inform her that American traditions forbid this. I have serious doubts that this ever occurred in real life, or that busty Scandinavian high school senior girls in their native lands walk around the house topless.[/QUOTE]Respectfully, I would say Sara Valente looks like a slightly mature version of the actress Jennifer Esposito - [URL]https://theplace-2.com/photos/Jennifer-Esposito-md2041/[/URL] Especially since she (Sara) dropped a lot of weight and changed to a shorter hairstyle.

So I just have been with Patricia Navarro and Isabela. What a superb experience, she remembers me and is all, sympathy, sweetness smiles but salty and wild too. Isabela is quite bella and lovely too. Taller and less curvy, natural medium boobs, not busty. But classy and deep stare and endurance. My first trio and it has been superhot. Kissing (real life passionate kissing, c'Mon. It is not so difficult, girls). All positions we wanted. Facial, cowgirl, doggy, spoons. Double heavenly oral BBBJCIM " I like it more than you, she said", 69's. And wild fuck with both, of course. Anal fingering and rimming for me any time while pushing and pushing. Patricia showed me a dildo for strap-on, with an evilish smile, as she did before. But not for the moment, maybe. I would try one day, who cares. What else that have not been told again and again. 10/10 you could find more model-like posh fancy girls but they have 1# top attitude, they really like to fuck and enjoy the moment giving and receiving pleasure. Experienced and enthusiast. Brazil!

The good new is their unbeatable price 240 1 h / 140 30 m. (compare with the 400) Patricia is 120/80 still.

Place is clean and cozy, with shower, Patricia speaks good English and Isabela can understand with her.

They are doing the duo this week at least, the ad is down but you can contact her. Be patient and keep trying.

At the end we did talk about this thread and how I met her because of all your comments and tips. When I have mentioned " one of the best girls in Portugal" they laugh out oud! She asked me to show the comments. And if it is OK for the members I would do. I wait for your response.

Tomorrow I will go with Eller Rocha. Patricia knows her too and say place and her are great.

[QUOTE=Pakore;2912764]So I just have been with Patricia Navarro and Isabela. What a superb experience, she remembers me and is all, sympathy, sweetness smiles but salty and wild too. Isabela is quite bella and lovely too. Taller and less curvy, natural medium boobs, not busty. But classy and deep stare and endurance. My first trio and it has been superhot. Kissing (real life passionate kissing, c'Mon. It is not so difficult, girls). All positions we wanted. Facial, cowgirl, doggy, spoons. Double heavenly oral BBBJCIM " I like it more than you, she said", 69's. And wild fuck with both, of course. Anal fingering and rimming for me any time while pushing and pushing. Patricia showed me a dildo for strap-on, with an evilish smile, as she did before. But not for the moment, maybe. I would try one day, who cares. What else that have not been told again and again. 10/10 you could find more model-like posh fancy girls but they have 1# top attitude, they really like to fuck and enjoy the moment giving and receiving pleasure. Experienced and enthusiast. Brazil!

The good new is their unbeatable price 240 1 h / 140 30 m. (compare with the 400) Patricia is 120/80 still.

Place is clean and cozy, with shower, Patricia speaks good English and Isabela can understand with her.

They are doing the duo this week at least, the ad is down but you can contact her. Be patient and keep trying.

At the end we did talk about this thread and how I met her because of all your comments and tips. When I have mentioned " one of the best girls in Portugal" they laugh out oud! She asked me to show the comments. And if it is OK for the members I would do. I wait for your response.

Tomorrow I will go with Eller Rocha. Patricia knows her too and say place and her are great.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review. I don't think any of us object to the ladies seeing reviews and discussions. The good providers hang out with other good providers, and may not realize just how many rip-offs and scams exist. We have reviews and lists to help each other, and to help get more business to the ladies who give great service.

Here are their ads.

They advertise on Portal Privado, which doesn't list all the advertisers likeApartadox does, so sometimes ads on Portal Privado are more difficult to find. These two ladies certainly belong on the list of the best ladies to see in Lisbon, but keep in mind that the list I made for the guy asking about Lisbon was geared toward younger providers since he asked about ladies under 30. Lists are helpful for the summer tourists, but difficult to make because some people want ladies in their teens and twenties, and others want more mature ladies. But in the last few pages, there are now around 25 recommended ladies, which should be helpful to the summer tourists.

Of the guys I have helped on the Toronto board, one raved about Patricia. So she is no doubt an excellent provider, as is Isabella Venturi based on your review. They both have excellent reviews on the local board, with Patricia having pages of top-notch reviews.

But we will never avoid disagreements. Of the three Toronto guys who came back and did reviews, one loved Joanna Montenegro of EP, and one of them didn't think she matched the EP pictures, just like Harry indicated.

[URL]https://portalprivado.com/pt/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-patricia-navarro[/URL]

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-isabela-venturi[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2912802]These two ladies certainly belong on the list of the best ladies to see in Lisbon[/QUOTE]I've only met Patricia once and dhe is, no doubt, very, very good. But I'm not sure if I would place her in my current Lisbon top 5. A great experience but you never forget you're paying for sex. With the really outstanding ones thet thought never crosses your mind.

I read earlier in this thread that Sara Valente's breasts shrunk due to weight loss. Is it true?

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2912983]I've only met Patricia once and dhe is, no doubt, very, very good. But I'm not sure if I would place her in my current Lisbon top 5. A great experience but you never forget you're paying for sex. With the really outstanding ones thet thought never crosses your mind.[/QUOTE]I am curious, Kama! What is your top 5 list?

Flora Neves.

She isn't on EP but has now pushed her price up to the EP levels (e200) having previously been e180. Guess it was inevitable. I asked her about it and she said that as she works minimal hours, she needs to be charging as much as she can.

This meet actually wasn't quite as good as my meet last year, but it was still satisfactory. She immediately remembered me, which took me aback given it had been several months. This time, however, I got absolutely no DFK and even the pecks were limited (she kept turning her face away). Last time it was unlimited DFK from memory, just with no tongues. Some other reviews have also mentioned no DFK. The issue is that she advertises providing the service, so it's really not great.

One other slight negative is minimal FIV this time (she said no) whereas last time I recall there being no restriction.

What I like about her is her positioning during penetration to give us maximum pleasure.

Also beware that trying to get a booking with her isn't easy, partly because she just switches her phone off some days. She also arrived almost 30 minutes late, which I find very poor (but I know some guys find it normal).

However, despite what seems like a lot of negatives, I was satisfied with the meet. The blowjob and penetration were good. Overall, however, I'm not sure If I'the book her again. The new level of Lisbon outcall prices also doesn't help. Funnily enough the comment in the previous post about not forgetting you're paying for sex, rang true a bit with Flora.

Funnily enough, there is a girl on EP called Margarida Dias who looks so much like Flora on the pictures that I'm going to give her a go if she's around when I'm next there:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/margarida-dias/[/URL]



Vitoria Mendes.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-vitoria-mendes-7606[/URL]

I decided to roll the dice. Yes, I'm fully aware of the risks of seeing someone who hasn't been reported on much. But I get a buzz from the unknown.

Decided to go with incall at e150 for the hour even though outcall is very much my preference. A relatively central Lisbon location, but when I got there I regretted not doing an outcall. It wasn't the most luxurious of places, and I was worried about cleanliness of bed sheets / towels etc.

She looks good in the flesh, not too dissimilar to the above advert. However, she is slightly darker toned but I expected that and have no issue with it.

She doesn't quite have the enthusiasm for sex as someone like Flora, but you can still have a good service providing you are happy to be constantly directing her. Got some DFK, a deep blowjob and some face fucking, and she's happy to take quite a pounding. Got through 5 different positions which was great, and she catered for fetishes.

Her English is limited and communication was hard (needed google translate once or twice).

Got the full hour with her, but I must reiterate that you need to direct her. If you are too passive, she may try and get away with a lacklustre service and short change.

Not someone I'll see again but good to have a gamble and not a bad meet overall.



Vivianne Miller.

A e200 outcall meet via EP. Well reviewed girl and I don't have much to add other than to confirm she's great. Looks like the pictures on EP, albeit not quite as attractive. Aged 19-20 in my opinion.

Unlimited DFK, wonderful OWO and deep throating, energetic penetration in any position I wanted. Just a wonderful girl and nothing was off limits. We even performed a bit of role-play which she acted out brilliantly! Her English is workable but I wouldn't describe her as fluent.

She arrived on time and there was no request for money at the start which I always take as a positive.

Will be seeing her again.

Will update shortly on another two ladies I saw.