Bangkok Reports

After doing some reading here it sounds like the girls are happy with lots of other Asian men. This is typical in the Philippines with Korean tourists and they seem to throw money away and the girls know it.

We always caked it 3-3-3, three inches, three minutes, three thousand pesos. Well think at it like a business, the time is quick, the rooster is small not like a wrecking hammer and the coin is much. I hope I will be a well received American is all I know. I do know if you see what you like you better capitalize on the moment and don't hesitate or you will loose out. I have seen this happen time and time again so don't be bashful and get it done don't snooze.

[QUOTE=MarkZ;2776355]Where are the places you can just walk choose girl and pay 1 set price in Bangkok??[/QUOTE]Go have a look at the Bangkok massage thread, these places have been discussed over there but prices are more like 2000 baht for 1 hour.

The Exodus of people, including Nana Plaza boom boom workers, over Christmas and New Years is real.

While there were enough workers to cover the holidays the last 2 night have been abysmal.

Couldn't even Stomach Rainbow 5. Did not partake. Rainbow 4 isn't any better but I went, had to choose 1.

Pretty sure by Chinese New Year they should back.

[QUOTE=MarkZ;2776217]Another thing that's so damn annoying is these women in Bangkok can't even translate their own language, I've handed them google translate.

Over and over and over and they still can't understand their own words. They speak into the phone and its all a jumble of mess.[/QUOTE]This post can't be real.

You go in their country and you complain they don't speak your language?

Question about go go bars vs gentlemen's clubs. When you go in a gogo bar are they like a US strip club? Are All the girls in bikinis and a bunch of girls dancing topless. What's the setup like. Can you get lap dances on the couch if you buy a drink for her. Are gentlemen's clubs just a higher end gogo bar.

This may be a stupid question but hear me out. This involves [URL]smooci.com[/URL]. If a lady is listed there and it indicates she "likes".

Likes A-Level CIM, etc.

And on her agency Web page she has the same list with under rates they say.

A-level (anal) + ฿2000.

And CIM +฿1000.

What would I expect to pay for all her services when [URL]smooci.com[/URL] just lists.

2 h ฿ 4,000 2 shots.

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2776397]Nice and succinctly said. Bravo (11). ![/QUOTE]Well, I don't know about succinct [S]...[/S] But I do enjoy a good "slice and dice".

[QUOTE=MarkZ;2776355]I don't travel to different countries to pay the Canada / us rates especially when.
People only make $5 a day.[/QUOTE]And that's why Thai's come to BKK, to make more than $5/ day.

I always flip the coin, look on the other side, if the situation was reversed. I wonder how Mark would feel, back home, a customer comes in, says I want this job done for this price. Mark says, no, price will be this. Customer says he can get a better price in x,y, z places, storms out. Think Mark would be saying he, Mark, was wrong, should have taken the low price? Or would he be saying, about the customer, what an as*hole. I KNOW what I'd be saying.

And how many bars back home can you walk in, sit down, and say I'm not buying any drinks, I'm just here for the live music, want to talk to the band about a future gig?

[QUOTE=MarkZ;2776355]For over a year now I've been talking to people getting in the forums watching videos of guys saying Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Then please cite sources HERE on BKK thread that talk about 1000/1500 Nana / Cowboy prices. I again think you really need to get out a map and understand basic differences in physical locations and venue types.

[QUOTE=MarkZ;2776355]Clueless on customer service and google translate to make a welcoming experience.[/QUOTE]MY experience, the FEW places that I've felt disrespected, I've QUICKLY left, as in mach snell. But then again, I understand the difference between a bar and a brothel. (and an MP).

[QUOTE=MarkZ;2776355]In dr, curacao, st martin, medellin, bogata, Costa Rica, jaco, toronto these casas you go in pick girl pay 1 flat fee for 30 minutes.
No lies, no scams, no gold diggers no cheats just honest fun sensual time.
Where are the places you can just walk choose girl and pay 1 set price in Bangkok??[/QUOTE]Well, agogo's are NOT the place. BUT there are any number of places; they're called massage parlors. Instead of Nana or Cowboy, take a stroll along Soi 23, the soi that Cowboy ends in. Or Soi 22, Soi 24, Soi 24-1, Soi 26 (can you say "Jill-in-the-box").

In re-reading, couple of things come to mind:

[QUOTE=MarkZ;2776217]I'm looking for ones like Medellin, Aruba, Curacao you walk in their is line up, you choose, you pay $50 us / Canadian for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]$50 US = 1500 baht. Wouldn't the FS option at Wood's Bar on Soi 7/1 meet that criteria? Now, the lineup might not be chock full of beauties, but, my understanding, price point would be met (can't say personally).

Or, a bit of math: 2*(50 US = 1500 baht, 30 minutes) = $100 US = 3000 baht, 60 minutes. I'd think just about any MP on soi 24/1, Soi 24, the shops along Soi 23 above Cowboy, would meet that criteria. And I think one MP (Angels?) on Soi 24/1 might run a quick 40 minute service, but can't say if that's a FS.

[QUOTE=MarkZ;2776355]Pushy disrespectful and girls kept grabbing my dick.[/QUOTE]Here we have a truly different perspective: disrespectful / grabbing my dick ARE, IMHO, mutually exclusive. And I can think of several bars, mentioned by [B]Blue Nose[/B] and myself, that he should definitely stay out of if THAT is disrespectful.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2776443]You have a Wise card with your account? If you did, would know that your max limit is 4 K per month. You are referring to fees, not max withdrawals. Is it necessary for me to load a screenshot?

Absent a Schwab or the like, Wise is the best way to get baht in Thailand at the best rates.

Glad I can help you out.[/QUOTE]I don't know what is meant by "account", guess I'm just dense. I have Wise, a sign in account, which I use to transfer money from Bank A to Bank B, Bank C, in several countries. I don't see any limits on what I can transfer. Wise just removes the specified amount from my bank account and sends it to the bank account I designate.

But I don't have a Wise card because I obviously don't understand the fee structure, and I don't care to load a card with money I can't readily access. Like I say, I don't understand what the website is referencing.

But given what they state on their website, 2 FREE withdrawals per month, with "up to the following amount", $100 USD. Is that a limit on the ATM [B]FEES[/B] per month that you will be liable for? Is that the local fees charged? Are those included? Is that a limit of $100 [B]ATM FEES[/B] per month, and what happens after that? I was charged a "local fee" of 220 baht per withdrawal. So will I be liable for the first $100 of local fees? Or do they pay the first $100 in ATM fees, and it's on you after that? It confuses me when they say "2 FREE withdrawals per month", then list limits? What are the limits? On what YOU'LL pay, or what THEY'LL reimburse?

No screen shot needed, I believe it works for you. Myself, I'll stick with Schwab. Previously, I could get a temp raise on the maximum daily amount, but this time, was declined. Oh well, 1 K / day, I can just go the next day if I need to stock up, and ALL ATM fees are FULLY reimbursed, no limits anywhere. AND a real PLUS: Schwab's phone reps are all in the US, so language is not a problem. But thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2776466]This post can't be real.
You go in their country and you complain they don't speak your language?[/QUOTE]He just ddin't supply the proper initial settings: "Do [S]. . . [/S] You [S]. . . [/S] Speak[S]. . . [/S] English[S]...[/S]?", allowing her to set the correct vocal parameters.

[QUOTE=TomThumbbs;2776461]Couldn't even Stomach Rainbow 5. Did not partake. Rainbow 4 isn't any better but I went, had to choose 1.[/QUOTE]And to be a [b]USEFUL FR[/B], especially for people like Mark, you should have included: bar fine, asking price, accepted price, duration. What you did, for all I know, simple eye contact and oogling, in the room, I couldn't care less. But otherwise, no actionable intel. "Yes, Captain, I had contact". Very good private, where is the actionable intel? Private, private [S]...[/S].

And Mark, Mr. [B]BS[/B] did not pay 1000/1500.

[QUOTE=AsianWinkie;2776377]I'll be landing in Bangkok on the 5th and looking forward, but recent reports of over priced and non friendly attitude got me little down. Plus with recent travel restriction lift from China got me little worried as well. Looks like I will have to come up with some other creative way to fill my time in land of smiles or even cut my time short. I hope this is not the case. Either way I'm looking forward to having a cold one in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't worry, any number of punters, EVERY punter is not a member here, and EVERY member does not write FR's, so MANY are having a great time in BKK. I certainly did. Just do some reading, know the going prices in the various venues, be friendly, and it will be returned.

PS: hey, pre-any-China influx, I caught Covid in BKK and I was FULLY vaccinated, and MOSTLY masked. Shit happens, 3 days feeling poor, week's isolation, though Doctor said I was being overly cautious. FR's written.

[QUOTE=Mark Z;2776355]They want to make you smile. Nooooo Just want a mans wallet.[/QUOTE]MY experience, the two are NOT mutually exclusive. My suggestion: an attitude adjustment on your part. If you want fun, be fun. DON'T be a mark, don't be run over, don't be taken advantage of. IMMEDIATELY SAY NO. SET LIMITS, as in lady drinks, charges, etc. But be fun. Agogos are not brothels. The lineup is on stage. The [i]entrance fee[/i] is you buying a drink for YOURSELF. Enjoy the differences, language, part of the world, etc. For me, the girls are like mirrors, they return what they see. When I get quoted a high price, I just grab my chest, make a face, "heart attack, heart attack". No, it might not work, but I enjoy it. SOMETIMES, it even gets a smile, and that's THE point.

In you description of other countries, sounds like what you want are MP's. Lineup, pick a girl, pay money, enjoy.

[QUOTE=Mark Z;2776355]Nana and cowboy dismal dissapointment [/QUOTE]Disappointment: the difference between your fantasy and reality.

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2776393]Contrary to your view.

The kamagra products sold by the street vendors on Sukhumvit are Class A OK.

They all come from the same supplier and are legit.

It is the same supplier that sells them to the pharmacy shops where you happily pay inflated prices.

I know as I have privately sourced them from there for years, and nowadays I even run a successful export business off their product supply.[/QUOTE]Just looking at the Boxes you can tell the product is Suspect.

Kind of like Beer garden girls.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2775973]I've found that the "Searching at Your Leisure" method is very effective. And yes, I'm an acolyte of Professor Kingsfield. Do the required reading before coming to class. [/QUOTE]Don't get me wrong. I love Professor Kingsfield, especially when he's abusing the unprepared 1-Ls. "Here's a dime. Call your parents and tell them you'll never be a lawyer. "

But I respectfully submit Mr. Bravo is in another class when he schools those who wander into this forum and admit to all and sundry that they're too lazy to read previous posts. To me, Mr. Bravo is a MASTER, much like the old blind dude who tutored Kung Fu in the Seventies.

* Nov 28 - Smooci. Molly.

Very cute, she looked very similar to her pictures. Pretty good conversationalist too. I wrote a more detailed review on Smooci, but I can't access it because they don't want to take my money. Smooci is pretty simple to use too. They call to confirm the booking and the hotel calls you once she shows up. They even have tracking.

* Nov 29 - Pretty Massage. Ping Ping.

Had a look at the line up before talking to the mamasan. Mamasan's English wasn't great, so one of the girls kept popping her head out to translate. Ping ping was great, not too much English. Great BJ, and riding. CIM cost 500 extra and she didn't like it going up her nose. A second round with another CIM finish was 1 k extra. She was very playful and attentive though. It was raining when I left and she even gave me her umbrella.

* Nov 30 - Smooci. Sofa.

Very talkative and good service. She was hungry, which made her want to leave soon. Her mustache was a bit of a turn off, but worse was how concerned she was not to mess up her make up and hair.

* Nov 30 - 7 Heaven.

Showed up and a very rude mamasan refused to show me a line up and just shoved the pictures in my face. If she didn't want my patronage, I was more than happy to oblige. Fortunately there was a really nice barbecue place opposite where I decided to grab a bite.

* Dec 1 - Angel 26.

The most dizzying selection I had seen with maybe 30 or more girls, which made for a hard decision. I forgot the name of the girl I picked, but she was stellar. Those little red skirts walking up the stairs in front of you is a great appetizer. A pretty firm massage before the fun. She wanted 1 k for CIM, but I thought that was a tad high so I refused.

* Dec 1 - Kiss Massage - 4 hands.

I wasn't very satisfied when I returned to my hotel room and I figured I had enough time for an encore performance, so I jauntied down to Kiss Massage. The line up was decent and 2 girls caught my eye and while deciding between the 2, the mamasan sneakily upsold me for the 4 hands massage and a pint of beer. One of the girls had a fully tattooed back and had her nickname tattooed on her surgically enhanced left breast (don't remember it though), the other was natural and just had the more common Yak Sant tattoos. We started in the jacuzzi, where one of the girls was my backrest and the other teased me from the front. The massage was alright, but I never understood the appeal of B2 be personally. The tattooed girl was definitely a performer, but complained about my size (I think it was late and she may have been hungry or something). The other girl was a lot cuter. Overall having 2 girls at a time wasn't optimal imo. Your attention is divided and a lot of the fun position switches aren't available since you have to change condoms when you switch between the girls. The girls weren't happy with how long it was taking me to finish and were starting to get tired, when the cuter girl managed to get me to the finish line with her hands. I wanted the tattooed girl's mouth, but the translation took too long sadly.

-End of First Trip-.

To Be Continued.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2776510]Question about go go bars vs gentlemen's clubs. When you go in a gogo bar are they like a US strip club? Are All the girls in bikinis and a bunch of girls dancing topless. What's the setup like. Can you get lap dances on the couch if you buy a drink for her. Are gentlemen's clubs just a higher end gogo bar.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen's clubs. Can't say, never been in one, but I'm not a gentleman.

Have only been in a US strip club once, buddy's party, and having been to BKK, all I could think of was how stupid and such a waste of time. Look, but don't touch, or perhaps limited touching. Maybe just my limited experience, but can't see the purpose of a strip club, the "where's the beef" tagline.

Lap dance? My only thought is why? To what purpose?

Now, my VIEW of bkk agogo's, and the MAJOR difference between BKK and US clubs: there is (with one noted exception) the REAL POSSIBILITY of taking home any of the dancers (or staff) there. The exception is [I]Coyotes[/I]. These are girls from an outside agency brought in for quality and quantity, to fill out the agogos ranks. Most Coyotes will not go with customers, or are exorbitantly priced, at least for me, but I'm not a hansum man. I hate coyotes; they're clutter, chaff that masks TRUE POTENTIAL targets.

Some agogos, girls wear bikinis. Others, crop tops, micro skirts, no panties. Any number of permutations of sexy attire. Some girls dance topless, others nude (less clothes, higher pay). Depends on the agogo and the girl.

Been a LONG time, but I think Crazy House bar, Soi Cowboy, SOME girls will [I]circulate[/I] naked, sitting with customers, even on laps, but lady drinks are expected, and those lady drinks are outrageously (IMHO) expensive (300,400,500 baht?, maybe someone who KNOWS can say for sure). I've never bought, so can't say. Again, why? Why pay lady drinks to fondle a girl, when there is the potential of some private [I]entertainment[/I] at home?

And that's my view. I don't view agogos as entertainment destinations THEMSELVES. They are an ends to a mean. I buy a beer, or two, for myself, as the price of admission to see the [I]lineup[/I], various shifts of dancers. When one catches my eye, I invite her over. An instant request for a lady drink is a rejection. But if she sits, has some nice banter, then I just [B]might[/B], FIRST asking the price of a lady drink and ordering THAT ONE for HER. But not as a matter of course. I understand the push for lady drinks as income for her, but I'm more interested in a [I]direct[/I] monetary investment for her future. The goal is to sign an [I]entertainment[/I] contract for the evening, setting menu, time of departure, price / pay after, and, if mutually agreeable, pay the bar fine, and while she goes and changes into street clothes, pay my check bin. Yes, if she's particularly charming, even if the language barrier is severe, but at least we're having a good time, then a lady drink might be forthcoming, but that's a bonus, not a requisite.

The purpose of a agogo [B]FOR ME[/B] is to provide a potential selection of [I]company[/I]. I don't hang around once an agreement has been reached. Better to RTB and enjoy some private [I]entertainment[/I]. But that's just me.

The exception, again for me, is certain non-agogo bars, BJ bars. Yes, I will buy a lady drink, but that's not JUST for a lap dance. That's to get her naked. And I don't stop there. For an additional 800 baht, a BBBJ / CIM. For 1200, FS. Now, first to admit, they aren't lookers, but they DO have certain [I]talents[/I] that are [U]exceptional[/U], and A LOT OF FUN, for me, anyway, but like I initially said, I'm not a gentleman, and form over function is not a positive for me. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Bunky;2776608]Don't get me wrong. I love Professor Kingsfield, especially he's abusing the unprepared 1-Ls. "Here's a dime. Call you parents and tell them you'll never be a lawyer. "

But I respectfully submit Mr. Bravo is in another class when he schools those who wander into this forum and admit to all and sundry that they're too lazy to read previous posts. To me, Mr. Bravo is a MASTER, much like the old blind dude who tutored Kung Fu in the Seventies.[/QUOTE]Thanks.

For me, I APPRECIATE all the time and effort it takes to write INFORMATIVE FR'S, and so one should avail themselves of those resources FIRST.
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[I]Charles W. Kingsfield Jr.: Mr. Hart, here's a dime. Call your mother, and tell her there is serious doubt about you becoming a lawyer.

James T. Hart: (pause, as he is leaving the room} You... are a son of a bit*ch, Kingsfield!

Charles W. Kingsfield Jr.: Mr. Hart! That is the most intelligent thing you've said today. You may take your seat.[/I][/INDENT]
[S] [/S]

Priceless, one of my all time favorite scenes.

Likewise:
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To MISQUOTE Charles W. Kingsfield Jr. : You come in here with a skull full of mush; you leave thinking like a [I]punter[/I].
[/INDENT]
[S] [/S]

But it does require reading, making use of the good / bad examples so you succeed, and don't make the same mistakes. Though you will, we all do. But that's what makes it fun. It's [I]punting[/I]; you kick, you just don't know how the ball (s) will land.

Hopefully, I'm not blind, but in thinking back to some of my pulls, I just might have been, and in certain bars, it does pay to be a bit. And these days, that photo just might be the way a lot of the bg's see me, unfortunately, I'm the one in the foreground [S]...[/S].

Cheers.

[QUOTE=TConor;2776564]This may be a stupid question but hear me out. This involves [URL]smooci.com[/URL]. If a lady is listed there and it indicates she "likes".

Likes A-Level CIM, etc.

And on her agency Web page she has the same list with under rates they say.

A-level (anal) + ฿2000.

And CIM +฿1000.

What would I expect to pay for all her services when [URL]smooci.com[/URL] just lists.

2 h ฿ 4,000 2 shots.[/QUOTE]I had a girl from Smooci who included CIM. The Smooci price was inclusive of that. I never compared the agency website though.

[QUOTE=TomThumbbs;2776461]The Exodus of people, including Nana Plaza boom boom workers, over Christmas and New Years is real.

While there were enough workers to cover the holidays the last 2 night have been abysmal.

Couldn't even Stomach Rainbow 5. Did not partake. Rainbow 4 isn't any better but I went, had to choose 1.

Pretty sure by Chinese New Year they should back.[/QUOTE]Yeah, both massage parlors I tried yesterday and the day before had slim pickings. Everyone I was trying on Sideline wasn't working either. Some places are even shut till the 6th.