Minsk

[QUOTE=Michi T; 1316201]In the hotel Yubileiny, there are lots of girls in the bar (from around 8 PM).

They want to have 200 $ per hour. When you tell them that this is too much they come down to 200 $ per "night", I. E. Until around 4-5 AM. Any thoughts? I made bad experience when I had to bargain the price down. And, isn't 200 $ too much for Belarus? That's what you pay in Poland. But Belarus. Come on!

Also, there is no safe in the room. How can one have a girl for "the night" if the money and passport is in the room? A little to un-safe, isn't it?[/QUOTE]Club Next in Minsk might be a better option. But in general hookers is not a good value in Belarus. Germany / Bulgaria / Poland is a better value. Belarus is good for courting pretty girls long term. Agreed 200 dollars given the current exchange rate is nuts.

[QUOTE=Jojosun; 1316216]Never seen any good looking Hoes in there. Of course US$200 is too much.

Have you seen any good looking wgs in there?

If you do see one that is really attractive give her maximum US$ 100 all night.

Bear in mind if you are staying at the hotel? The girl pays about Us$ 20 to the security guy.

Why not just cross the river and head to West world club, much younger and cheaper pros, semi pros, and freebies.

More wgs at the bar in Hotel Planeta. Bargain hard.

Very good strip club at this hotel BTW, also at the complex where west world club is located.

Keep us tuned in.[/QUOTE]
Working girls in the Yubileiny.

Oh yes, one working girl in Yubileiny was very sexy. She had no bra and the niples very vey visible. I could have bargained down from 200 $ to 125 $ but as you said. 100 $ was the maximum for me (having in mind the salaries here in Belarus). And yes, I am staying at the hotel. The wgs told me the same: They must pay about 20 $ to security and the floor girl.

This morning at the breakfast, I saw two wgs with old fat ugly guys having breakfast. That means they found some sponsors for the night. The girls did not even look at me (probably becasue I didn't want to pay them their outrageous "salary"?). I wonder if the breakfast is included for the girls or if you have to pay for them.
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Security issues with overnight girls.

How do you guys handle "security issues", I. E. Passport, money etc when you have a girl for the night and there is no safe in the room?
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Civilian girls in Minsk.

Minsk is a complete disaster so far. Almost impossible to have a longer talk with civilian girls on the street, in the restaurant, in the supermarket. I believe they are not used to foreign tourists.
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Strategy for civilian girls.

Which strategy do you guys follow when you are on your own in Minsk? Which clubs, pubs, discos are within walking distance from the hotel Yubileiny? The West World Club which was mentioned: Is this just accross the river in the building where it says "casino" and is visible from the hotel?
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General impression on Minsk.

Forget everything which you read and hear in the Internet. Minsk is a normal city just like any other city. No secret service, no other dangerous things for you as a normal tourist. Even walking at night is safe and no problem at all. On the other hand, Minsk is an extremely boring city. There is no much to do and not really touristic. English, by the way, was no issue so far. There is always somebody who can help you. People are genererally open and helpful when you ask them for directions and advice.
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Any buddy in Minsk right now?

And finally, is there any body in Minsk right now?

[QUOTE=Michi T; 1316201]In the hotel Yubileiny, there are lots of girls in the bar (from around 8 PM).

They want to have 200 $ per hour. When you tell them that this is too much they come down to 200 $ per "night", I. E. Until around 4-5 AM. Any thoughts? I made bad experience when I had to bargain the price down. And, isn't 200 $ too much for Belarus? That's what you pay in Poland. But Belarus. Come on!

Also, there is no safe in the room. How can one have a girl for "the night" if the money and passport is in the room? A little to un-safe, isn't it?[/QUOTE]Michi T,

Why are you using the girls at Yubileiny Hotel? In fact, you need not use hookers at all in Minsk. What is more, 200-per hour is ludacris. They are taking advantage of you (and clearly they are seasoned pro's). When I was in Minsk last May I had an 18-year old beauty bouncing around my flat nude for 100 USD for two hours. She wouldn't stop sending me text messages wanting to meet me. Use the internet. There are much, much better options, trust me.

[QUOTE=Michi T; 1316363].

Strategy for civilian girls.

Which strategy do you guys follow when you are on your own in Minsk? Which clubs, pubs, discos are within walking distance from the hotel Yubileiny? The West World Club which was mentioned: Is this just accross the river in the building where it says "casino" and is visible from the hotel?[/QUOTE]West World club is just across from your hotel on the other side of the river. Next to Hotel Belarus. Go there day time and have a look around.

At night I just got a Taxi, didn't fancy crossing the bridge at night.

Its a huge club with a mixed crowd. Go early in the evening and give a good tip to one of the waiteresses and ask her to get you a good table close to the dance floor.

Dress up for the evening and plonk a good bottle of drink on your table. Trust me the girls will land on your table. A lot of students, freebies out to have a good time, semi pros, and of course the hard WGS. Ignore hardend hoes, simply not worth it in Minsk.

Next to your hotel just up the hill try hotel Planeta the bar and the club. .

Try your luck with the girls at the strip Clubs. There was one good club at your hotel.

Leave your valuables at the Hotel's safe.

How long are you there for?

Good Luck.

This Minsk is somewhat of the most boring cities for mongering. There is simply no possibility. And in Internet I don't know any dating sites for Minsk.

[QUOTE=Michi T;1316534]This Minsk is somewhat of the most boring cities for mongering. There is simply no possibility. And in Internet I don't know any dating sites for Minsk.[/QUOTE]Check The Belarus thread. I left a couple of links.

I was in the Westworld Club last night and oh nooo, such a mistake. Entrance was with 50k BYR astronomicaly high. For me it's ok but still a waste of money. A beer cost 20k BYR which is also not nothing but also in this case for me ok and yet too expensive. The club was empty when I went there first at 11 PM. Went back to the club around 1 AM. And yet, the club was not even half full. No working girls at all, no semi pros either. Only a handfull locals who were into dancing. Over all only three nice girls seen. Two of them did not speak a single word of English and were not at all intereested in a conversation. The third one was there with a guy. Also the strip club on the ground floor was empty, not a single visitor there. Club Westworld was a waste of money and time.

[QUOTE=Michi T;1316726]I was in the Westworld Club last night and oh nooo, such a mistake. Entrance was with 50k BYR astronomicaly high. For me it's ok but still a waste of money. A beer cost 20k BYR which is also not nothing but also in this case for me ok and yet too expensive. The club was empty when I went there first at 11 PM. Went back to the club around 1 AM. And yet, the club was not even half full. No working girls at all, no semi pros either. Only a handfull locals who were into dancing. Over all only three nice girls seen. Two of them did not speak a single word of English and were not at all intereested in a conversation. The third one was there with a guy. Also the strip club on the ground floor was empty, not a single visitor there. Club Westworld was a waste of money and time.[/QUOTE]You couldn't have chosen a worse time to visit Minsk.

August is the time to find girls by the seaside in EE countries including Belarus. Students are away.

Blame it on you your planning and lack of research before heading there.

I don't recall anyone here saying Belarus is great for mongering. Its a different country, a different breed of girls, not so much in your face P4P.

Us$6 =50k"astronomicaly high " to pay for entrance to a club.

How much do you pay in your home country to get to a similar club?

"Gents, I want to visit Minsk in April / Mai / June (June would be best). I have no experience in this country (but very experienced in other countries). Does anyone want to join me? Please send me PM.".

Michi's post 3/12/12. In the travel announcements section. .

Second half of May, Early June would have been best for you.

Now you are there nearly 3 months later during the exodus from Minsk.

Also you get on the links to girls (Non Pros, semi) in Minsk or anywhere at least 2 months before you get there. .

Girls in Minsk don't juat suddenly drop from the Sky. It does need a bit of work and research.

Does anyone know what is the visa steps to live there?

[QUOTE=Clement Mic;1320693]Does anyone know what is the visa steps to live there?[/QUOTE]I guess you are thinking about a permanent residence permit. So, first you ave to qualify:

Read Article 53, Permanent Residence Permit:

[url]http://mvd.gov.by/ru/main.aspx?guid=6561[/url]

If you qualify you should hire a local lawyer who guides you trough the administrative jungle.

Oh well, lesson learned. Which season is best?

The other night I went to Royal Club Madison. This was even worse. Prices doubled from the Westworld prices. Music was so loud that a discussion was impossible and also there, hardly any English speaking girls. And I realized, not only me was not successful, also other foreigners (mongers?) failed.

As I said. 6 $ is too high for me for a 3rd world country. And in the Madison. 12 $, wow, that's just crazy. At home I don't pay any entrance fee at all.

[QUOTE=Jojosun; 1316747]You couldn't have chosen a worse time to visit Minsk.

August is the time to find girls by the seaside in EE countries including Belarus. Students are away.

Blame it on you your planning and lack of research before heading there.

I don't recall anyone here saying Belarus is great for mongering. Its a different country, a different breed of girls, not so much in your face P4P.

Us$6 =50k"astronomicaly high " to pay for entrance to a club.

How much do you pay in your home country to get to a similar club?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Michi T; 1322341]Oh well, lesson learned. Which season is best?

As I said. 6 $ is too high for me for a 3rd world country. And in the Madison. 12 $, wow, that's just crazy. At home I don't pay any entrance fee at all.[/QUOTE]It seems Belarus is not for you, Period.

The top and good clubs in any first world country wouldn't admit just any Tom, Dick, Abdul.

Face control at the door, membership required, refernces to get on their books etc.

Or you get told its a Private Party on the night, which really means to F off.

[QUOTE=Michi T; 1322341]Oh well, lesson learned. Which season is best?

The other night I went to Royal Club Madison. This was even worse. Prices doubled from the Westworld prices. Music was so loud that a discussion was impossible and also there, hardly any English speaking girls. And I realized, not only me was not successful, also other foreigners (mongers?) failed.

As I said. 6 $ is too high for me for a 3rd world country And in the Madison. 12 $, wow, that's just crazy. At home I don't pay any entrance fee at all.[/QUOTE]Madisson is a high class club for monied Fashiionable locals. Its not a pick up place.

I went there with a Girl who worked For Belarus TV. I didn't pick her up.

She picked me up in West World Club. She told me she was coming to London in a few weeks time and had her Visa all sorted out.

Obviously she wanted company, money and a partner in London.

But on hearing this I had to pass.

Where else in the World have you mongered apart from Poland?

Seems like there is a solution to the Scandinavian mongerers problems with the current diplomatic war between Belarus and Sweden. Scandinavians can now apply for the visa at Minsk airport as we lack Belarus embassies in our countires. This is official Belarus gov info. As for those planning to bring a girl from Belarus home, the Estonian embassy in Minsk is prepared to handle that.

Cheers and happy mongering!

/Felix