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[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1334036]One of the frequent complaints on the punter boards is the demise of the girl-friend experience (GFE).
You make some good points especially at the end.
The westernization has caused a lot of the problems. But I get GFE 99% of the time. That is one reason I fly 8, 000 miles to these places.
I stay in a nice place, treat them nice.
Also, I always spend some time with them talking or having a coffe or drink before the commitment. I can usually tell within 15 minutes if it will be a GFE or not.
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[QUOTE=Opebo; 1334124]A thousand or two thousand per day profit (after paying for costs of ingredients) is quite normal, with usually 2-4 family members laboring there. Finally at the end of the month they may have some payments such as rent for the space, and a small payment to police. As far as I've heard 500 baht per month is commonplace in the upcountry, so no doubt it would be a bit more in Pattaya.
Overall I'd certainly much rather be a food-stall operator in Thailand than a fast food worker back in the Bad Place.[/QUOTE]That's more like it. The girl who makes to order for me is extremely busy for several hours, and would not suprise me if she takes 150 Baht per 10 mins. She only has one helper. In her busiest hours she could be taking 1000 Baht per hour, and even after overheads that is good money. She got 70 Baht from me for 2 dishes in 5 mins or so but was cooking for others concurrently.
O.K. Its not fair for me to compare a busy suburb of Bangkok, to out in the sticks, as up country the customers may not have much to spend.
If Thais want to sell, it should be popular cooked food, and choose the right location near to market places or business areas.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1334161]okay Its not fair for me to compare a busy suburb of Bangkok, to out in the sticks, as up country the customers may not have much to spend.
If Thais want to sell, it should be popular cooked food, and choose the right location near to market places or business areas.[/QUOTE]Actually, the sellers upcountry have it easier, as there is not much as competition. About 5 miles from Buriram there is a lady that sells chickens on the side of the road. Also somtom and rice and some chips and drinks. On a slow day she will sell 100 chickens, at 150thb each-you can do the math. I am building a a resort complex nearby, and it seems that her stand is busy for the whole time she is open (11-4). About one mile closer to town is another chicken place, and her sales are higher. It seems that a great number of people don't either have the facilities to cook, or are too lazy. The money is there is somone wants to make it, the side of the road places have very little overhead, and can make their own hours.
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[QUOTE=Evil Penival]There was a very gradual switch from survival prostitution to what could be called occupational prostitution. The girls no longer traded sexual services for minimal level, but because they considered it far more lucrative than any other job they could realistically get.[/QUOTE]Can you define "survival prostitution" and the "occupational" type?
Are you saying the former would have starved to death, if they didn't become hookers?
And what are their options to being a working girl today? Work 60 hours a week in a factory for 6000 baht a month? If so, some would say they are "forced" by Thailand's poverty into selling their pussies. Moreover, some might contend that those who use them thus are "exploiting" and taking advantage of them.
BTW, for the record, I am speaking here as a "devil's advocate". I am interested in how you would respond so that I might learn something & be able to help others understand. I fully support sex tourism to places like Thailand.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1334099]Thanks for the history lesson. If you could only get NGOs to understand this reality as you have so eloquently put it.[/QUOTE]Can you elaborate?
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[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1334585]Can you define "survival prostitution" and the "occupational" type?
Are you saying the former would have starved to death, if they didn't become hookers?[/QUOTE]I think he explained that quite well in his post. Read it again. S L O W L Y.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1334585]And what are their options to being a working girl today? Work 60 hours a week in a factory for 6000 baht a month? If so, some would say they are "forced" by Thailand's poverty into selling their pussies. Moreover, some might contend that those who use them thus are "exploiting" and taking advantage of them.[/QUOTE]I am forced by the European greedy capitalist system to sell my brains on a daily basis. I think that is even worse since it is my profound wish to be able to sit under a palm-tree surrounded by worshipping sex starved Asian girls who think I am their sex-god.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1334585]BTW, for the record, I am speaking here as a "devil's advocate". I am interested in how you would respond so that I might learn something & be able to help others understand. I fully support sex tourism to places like Thailand.
Can you elaborate?[/QUOTE]You are not a devil's advocate, you are an Internet Troll. You are both giving the Devil and lawyers a bad name by what you are doing.
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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1334647]I think he explained that quite well in his post. Read it again. S L O W L Y.
I am forced by the European greedy capitalist system to sell my brains on a daily basis. I think that is even worse since it is my profound wish to be able to sit under a palm-tree surrounded by worshipping sex starved Asian girls who think I am their sex-god.
You are not a devil's advocate, you are an Internet Troll. You are both giving the Devil and lawyers a bad name by what you are doing.[/QUOTE]True, his entertaining story was explained or described in quite a bit of detail. Though I was asking for a definition, and in particular if starvation was occuring & their only other option. What did TGs do before farang were in LOS buying their bodies? Selling it to locals for half as much?
Re your cushy job, as one rock and roll troll to another, I totally sympathize with your sufferings. Perhaps you'ld prefer a sweatshop like factory job, eh? What's their other choice, being a fuck barbie, painful supersized alien anal probings, COF up the nose & down the throat with gaging? Life can be rough.
D. A.
District Attorney
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Yah-Pit (BODY SLAM)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lACNkaKSZ0&feature=relmfu[/url]
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Not everyone has the skill set to become an entrepreneur. For some, the only inventory they can manage is their vagina.
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Don Muang
A friend just called and told me that Don Muang airport is almost flooded. Dumb Asses.
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[QUOTE=Dash Riprock;1334680]Not everyone has the skill set to become an entrepreneur. For some, the only inventory they can manage is their vagina.[/QUOTE]A friend if mine once described the pussy as a life support for the Thai girls.
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[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1334662], and in particular if starvation was occuring & their only other option. What did TGs do before farang were in LOS buying their bodies? Selling it to locals for half as much?
Yah-Pit (BODY SLAM)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lACNkaKSZ0&feature=relmfu[/url][/QUOTE]Have a look at SEA history and presence of farangs in the last century, at least (more if you go north to Shangai) and you will see that farangs buying sexual services from local women have always been a good support to many families.
Where do you think the American soldiers were resting their bones during the Vietnam war? Surely with the grand-grand mothers of some cutie go-go girl of these days. Or about.
Not for nothing prostitution is the eldest profession in the world. Can this be changed now? By a law?
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[QUOTE=Dash Riprock;1334680]Not everyone has the skill set to become an entrepreneur.[/QUOTE]So do what you are good at that makes good money.
Some Thai girls like sex alright. Why work hard 9 to 5 for low money when can fuck when they feel like it for quite good money? Others prefer to work harder and a top girl can make a lot more than an office worker. Girls drift from straight massage to sex providers because they get good extra money. Usually the normal job money is just not enough to support the whole family.
Would I do my current job, if I could fuck girls or do something else (that doesn't involve going to prison) for a much higher pay day? I doubt it.
Its simple people just arrive at whatever allows them to make the most money most easily, unless they have strong religious qualms.
Poor countries have a lot of hookers if they can get away with it legally. Its always been that way and always will be. For many guys, a hooker is cheaper than a wife and better variety, or a good suppliment to insufficient sex.
Its only immoral when you make babies.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1335777]So do what you are good at that makes good money.
Some Thai girls like sex alright. Why work hard 9 to 5 for low money when can fuck when they feel like it for quite good money?[/QUOTE]Spoken like a True Tourist.
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[QUOTE=Bionicman;1335714]A friend if mine once described the pussy as a life support for the Thai girls.[/QUOTE]In that regard, I was surprised to read this the other day:
[QUOTE=]Thai women rise fastest in corporate world.
Published: 8/03/2011 at 03:26 AM Newspaper section: Business.
Thailand ranks first in providing opportunities for women to climb the corporate ladder, according to the latest survey by consulting firm Grant Thornton.
[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/05/yingluck-shinawatra-thailand-female-pm[/url]
In the 2011 Grant Thornton International Business Report, Thailand boasts the greatest percentage of women in senior roles at 45, followed by Georgia (40%) , Russia (36%) , Hong Kong and the Philippines (both 35%).
Countries with the lowest percentages are India, the United Arab Emirates and Japan, where fewer than 10% of senior positions are held by women.
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/economics/225389/thai-women-rise-fastest-in-corporate-world[/url]
Women are also likely to play an increasing role as leaders. According to the survey by Grant Thornton in 2011, the share of women in Thailand who are in a senior management position is as high as 45, the highest in the world (see Figure 27). This is mainly on account of women's higher educational attainment. There are now more women than men with vocational and university education in the labor force, a different trend from the past of which the share between men and women with higher education was about the same (see Figure 28).
[url]http://www.scb.co.th/eic/doc/en/insight/SCB[/url]
%20Insight%20April%202011_Eng. Pdf[/QUOTE]
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Metal Mouth
Do Thai girls have the worst teeth in the world?
I am just wondering.
I have never seen so many young girls with bad teeth and braces. A BBBJ with braces can be very painfull.
Whats the deal?
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1335777]Why work hard 9 to 5 for low money when can fuck when they feel like it for quite good money?[/QUOTE]Some of the TG hookers do both. If P4P dries up, e. G. Gets flooded to death, they have an income source to pay the rent & eat on. The problem with that is when they come to work they may have trouble staying away & nod off during sex.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1335777]Girls drift from straight massage to sex providers because they get good extra money. Usually the normal job money is just not enough to support the whole family.[/QUOTE]Therein lies the curse of Buddhism for these girls; they think it's their duty to "support the whole family". Western SP's are free from that.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1335777]Its only immoral when you make babies.[/QUOTE]What if she wants babies? They may be your hookers in 20 years.