Printable View
[QUOTE=Amjeck]
If you're mongering just for the sex, you'll win every time. If you're after something more, it's best to find a new game.[/QUOTE]
Anyone here looking for a wife or GF has serious issues.
You have to appreciate this place for what it is.
Hihg on a pedestal? Not really. Just treating them as human beings who are providing a good service and deserve consideration.
I also avoid the ones that look too skanky anyway.
[QUOTE=Mouse1]Sorry, but I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. :( Maybe a typo? Maybe a secret language? Maybe an acronym? Maybe just bollocks? :)[/QUOTE]
"ngern" (Dinghy's transliteration) = เงิน = money
[QUOTE=Amjeck]Repeat this mantra everyday:
Thai girls are only good for fucking! Take em to your room , fuck em, then kick em out. Repeat cycle![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Amjeck]My words appear harsh sometimes.[/QUOTE]A huge talent for understatement... :)
[QUOTE=Goyave]"ngern" (Dinghy's transliteration) = เงิน = money[/QUOTE]Thanks. I'll stick to English though.
[QUOTE=Mouse1]A huge talent for understatement... :)[/QUOTE]
It's all shop talk!
[QUOTE=Amjeck]It's all shop talk![/QUOTE]Ha ha! You shop at different places to me then!
[QUOTE=Mouse1]Ha ha! You shop at different places to me then![/QUOTE]
No, I saw you on soi 6 the other day! He he.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]I'm not advocating treating the girls like crap, but to put them on a pedestal is ridiculous. Better to keep your guard up and remain a little skeptical.
It is a business relationship. You can have fun when you conduct business too.
Respect is earned. If she earns it, she gets it. If not, then she doesn't. But she is the one who has to concede first, because I am the one with the money. No special treatment until she earns it. No favors until she earns it. Rewards for good service/behavior etc.
At the end of the day, if she sold her body for money that makes her a sex worker. She gets labeled as a hooker and is treated as such (business relationship)
On the flip side: When the girls give it up for free (p4p or non p4p girl), the relationship is totally different.[/QUOTE]
I am quite skeptical and I do not put them on a pedestal by any means. Regarding respect, I am talking about the basic respect that you afford to a person you have just met. I agree that greater respect must be earned (or lost), and while some guys put the girl on a pedestal, there are others who treat them like crap. To be clear Amjeck, I am in no way accusing you personally of treating the girls like crap.
Your a poet, and you don't know it, your feet are longfello.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]No it's not! They suck and fuck for a living. They fuck any guy that has money.They fuck thai guys for free bareback and foster the transmission of stds. They talk shit behind your back first chance they get and would rob you or cheat you if they get the opportunity.
You hold these girls high on a pedestal? The truth is ugly and only gets uglier the longer you play in the gutter.
Have a look at some of the faces of the girls who've been working longer than 4 months or so. Their soul has disappeared, they hate their lives, themselves and guess what? They hate you too.
I'll give you a break because I think you just got your nut off and are writing in post coital bliss.
If you're mongering just for the sex, you'll win every time. If you're after something more, it's best to find a new game.[/QUOTE]
Spent the afternoon in DD and thought I'd report as there isn't too much info here.
I took jar and Boo. My experience was mixed:
On the negative side: he girls looked nowhere near as good as in their pics. Jar has some very saggy banana tiitties and Boo is tatted up with some big bruises on her but. A bit skanky, but I guess they will have to do. There is something about Jar that is still very cute in a schoolgirl kind of way.
Also their act can be a bit contrived at times. It can feel like they are going through th emotions. A lot of spitting, cleaning and wiping in between change of positions, kissing, BJ. It can throw you off. But considering what they are doing for a living it is probably a good idea for everyone involved. They also spend way too much time in the shower between shots dilly dallying.
Rooms are tiny and dingy. Showers also suck. May be worth it to do the outcall service instead of taking their room. But the mirrors they have are good for the visuals, though. and this is all about creating a Porno Experience.
On the positive side they are real pros (especially Jar) and up for anything. this is some real PSE stuff! I have never had a more freaky session anywhere. I mean, this is some wild stuff. Highlight of the afternoon was me and Boo DPing Jar. Boo using a strap on and pumping as hard as I did. Shoolgirl Jar took it like a champ moaning the whole time. Hot stuff! The girls did work hard to make me cum twice, and were straight up willing with the CIM. Jar's BJ skills are also fantastic. I couldn't walk away without tipping them 160 each.
All in all I am definitely glad I went. G\It was a great experience. I will take the image from the overhead mirror of us DPing Jar to the grave. But I am not sure I would repeat. This may have been something I should have done at the beginning of the trip, before I got spoiled with the quality of the girls and by the GFE I have been getting from these girls -- though nothing nearly as wild as this afternoon's romp.
Also it may be a good idea to forgo sex the night before. I had two goes this morning with the lady from the night before and was maybe not at the height of horniness. We did manage to stay busy the whole time I was at DD. But I just wasn't as into it as I probably would have been if I saved a bit more energy.
I'm recovering now and trying to work up the strength to hit the Discos and try and find another "freebie" or freelancer.
Stay horny my friends,
Uncle V
[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]I took jar and Boo. My experience was mixed[/QUOTE]Had some fun with Boo several months ago too... in my (of course humble)) opinion, she looks better than on the pics on the DD site... the 2nd was a girl that for some reason i can't find on the website, but god she was wild! all in all a damn fu**ing enjoyable session, they know what they are doing! just a hardcore porn style BBJ from two hot girls is something memorable!
[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]I couldn't walk away without tipping them 160 each.[/QUOTE]LOL how did you come up with that weird figure? Don't say they have 100 and 20 baht banknotes in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Alxxx]Had some fun with Boo several months ago too... in my (of course humble)) opinion, she looks better than on the pics on the DD site... the 2nd was a girl that for some reason i can't find on the website, but god she was wild! all in all a damn fu**ing enjoyable session, they know what they are doing! just a hardcore porn style BBJ from two hot girls is something memorable!
LOL how did you come up with that weird figure? Don't say they have 100 and 20 baht banknotes in Thailand.[/QUOTE]
I gave them 4Gs and told them to keep change as tip to girls.
My idea of a great report, i.e., the names, the place, description of their bodies, services provided, etc.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya]Spent the afternoon in DD and thought I'd report as there isn't too much info here.
I took jar and Boo. My experience was mixed:
On the negative side: he girls looked nowhere near as good as in their pics. Jar has some very saggy banana tiitties and Boo is tatted up with some big bruises on her but. A bit skanky, but I guess they will have to do. There is something about Jar that is still very cute in a schoolgirl kind of way.
Also their act can be a bit contrived at times. It can feel like they are going through th emotions. A lot of spitting, cleaning and wiping in between change of positions, kissing, BJ. It can throw you off. But considering what they are doing for a living it is probably a good idea for everyone involved. They also spend way too much time in the shower between shots dilly dallying.
Rooms are tiny and dingy. Showers also suck. May be worth it to do the outcall service instead of taking their room. But the mirrors they have are good for the visuals, though. and this is all about creating a Porno Experience.
On the positive side they are real pros (especially Jar) and up for anything. this is some real PSE stuff! I have never had a more freaky session anywhere. I mean, this is some wild stuff. Highlight of the afternoon was me and Boo DPing Jar. Boo using a strap on and pumping as hard as I did. Shoolgirl Jar took it like a champ moaning the whole time. Hot stuff! The girls did work hard to make me cum twice, and were straight up willing with the CIM. Jar's BJ skills are also fantastic. I couldn't walk away without tipping them 160 each.
All in all I am definitely glad I went. G\It was a great experience. I will take the image from the overhead mirror of us DPing Jar to the grave. But I am not sure I would repeat. This may have been something I should have done at the beginning of the trip, before I got spoiled with the quality of the girls and by the GFE I have been getting from these girls -- though nothing nearly as wild as this afternoon's romp.
Also it may be a good idea to forgo sex the night before. I had two goes this morning with the lady from the night before and was maybe not at the height of horniness. We did manage to stay busy the whole time I was at DD. But I just wasn't as into it as I probably would have been if I saved a bit more energy.
I'm recovering now and trying to work up the strength to hit the Discos and try and find another "freebie" or freelancer.
Stay horny my friends,
Uncle V[/QUOTE]
[Quote=Amjeck]They actually think they are worthy of a normal relationship...I advise to treat all of them as hookers...The truth is ugly and only gets uglier the longer you play in the gutter...Their soul has disappeared, they hate their lives, themselves and guess what? They hate you too.[/QUOTE]I think this says more about Amjeck than it does about working girls in Thailand. Let's refer to this as [b][u]The Amjeck Doctrine.[/u][/b]
[QUOTE=Mouse 1]Why do I rise to the bait?[/QUOTE] Because you see the intellectual laziness in this.
As I groaned under the weight of the bar, doing my extra set of squats in the gym last night, I realized I was wrong. When I first read Amjeck's statements, and Mouse's response, and all that followed, I had thought Amjeck was a hypocrite. On the one hand, he makes grand claims about getting your head out of your ass and seeing the girls for what they are (The Amjeck Doctrine, quotes above). But at the same time, the statements he makes are clearly not in fact true. That is, this Amjeck Doctrine is so obviously provocative and incendiary that he can't possibly believe it. And any cursory analysis of the situation by even a half-wit would reveal that the view espoused by Amjeck is fantasy. (To be clear: I am not calling Amjeck a half-wit, please read on). Hence my initial conclusion that he is a hypocrite: he claims to be the purveyor of truth, whereas he in fact is the ultimate consumer of fantasy. The only difference is that his fantasy is a sick, cruel version that few of us would agree with.
But then I realized I am giving Amjeck (and his ilk) too much credit. The Amjeck Doctrine is a simple one: the girls are all prostitutes, and therefore should be considered as lesser human beings - as some category he calls 'hookers'. Accepting such a view is easy: it's like sitting on the couch eating potato chips. It is far easier to think of them all as prostitutes, not worthy of any emotion, not worthy of a second thought, noth worthy of distinction. It is *easier* to do this than to see who they really are. But this is sheer self-delusion. And it is delusion of a particular kind, one that is very common amongst us humans. Consider two American statesmen:
Joseph McCarthy: "Today we are engaged in a final, all-out battle between communistic atheism and Christianity."
George Bush: "See, we love, we love freedom. That's what they didn't understand. They hate things; we love things. They act out of hatred; we don't seek revenge, we seek justice out of love."
A simplified view of the world: us versus them. We are good; they are putrid prostitutes (or evil-doers, or communists, or what have you). It's easy for the average person to understand since it does not require that you exert any effort in talking with them, or treating them fairly, or trying to see the world from their perspective. And it makes treating them badly a morally acceptable thing to do. We can bomb innocent Muslims, but that's ok since they are all cave-dwelling evil-doers. And we can treat the girls poorly, but that's ok because they're all nothing more than lowly prostitutes. Mmm, those potato chips are good...
This all harkens back to a discussion started by Angus Magee a few weeks ago: fantasy versus reality. My fantasty when I am with a working girl (in Thailand or elsewhere) is that I am connecting with her, that we are going to share something special. I know this is fanstasy, but damn it, that's what I want. Mouse refers to this as the GFE, and he is right in pointing out that such an experience is diametrically opposed to the view that these girls are subhuman. But that's the thing: the Amjeck Doctrine is equally a fantasy, and it is the opposite one from mine.
Why would Amjeck engage in such fantasy? I mean, it is entirely his prerogative, but it has puzzled me for the last few months. In thinking about this, I recognized a recurring theme in his posts: Us versus Them. It is WAR! 'You win everytime'. Win what? War with whom? Why is this a battle? Not sure where I am going here, but I find it interesting.
So...if you are such a person, and if you want to insert your penis into as many orifices as you can with the minimal monetary expenditure possible and no lasting attachment to the girls who possess said orifices, and then at the end you can say that you WON...then I would recommend fully embracing the Amjeck Doctrine. You should keep this attitude if you want to treat the girls poorly and with impunity. That's the only way your conscience will allow it.There is nothing wrong with it once you recognize it as the fantasy that it is. His fantasy is no worse than mine - you just need to know who you are and which fantasy suits you best. As just about every Thai lady has ever said to me at some point or the other: Up to you.
But if his view is fantasy, and my view is fantasy, then what is reality? Angus Magee has some interesting thoughts on this, and I can't come close to his wisdom, but I'd like to make just one point. I would say that the reality is that nothing in the natural world is as simple as that. If you honestly want to *understand* the situation (and you may not in fact want this), such black-white dichotomies need to go. And that requires you getting your fat ass off the couch and hitting the gym (in the metaphorical sense). Not all of us can or even want to do this, and so there will always be lazy couch potatoes, no matter what any of us say or do.
Finally, although this post is written as if it is all about Amjeck, it isn't really. It's pretty clear that there is a spectrum of mongers. Amjeck happens to represent one end of that spectrum, and he is courageous for putting his ideas out there. I don't think there is anything wrong with that end of the spectrum, provided you don't end up hurting the working girls in any way that is not part of the norm. I don't think I will ever visit that end of the spectrum, but I am sure there are some of you who will.
This was pretty self righteous, I know - bring on the flames. Mouse, you see, you're not the only one who can be baited.
[QUOTE=Kumbu]I think this says more about Amjeck than it does about working girls in Thailand. Let's refer to this as [b][u]The Amjeck Doctrine.[/u][/b].......
This was pretty self righteous, I know - bring on the flames. Mouse, you see, you're not the only one who can be baited.[/QUOTE]
clap clap (and that's not with irony)