Moscow

[QUOTE=SukaShalava;1574646]This is not a dispute of your observations, just wondering why you or anyone would fail to consider so many other attractive options than ONLY one city in a country of many destinations. If you would go to all the trouble to fly there, unless you are stuck in the capital because of work, why limit yourself to the easiest choice, where you are clearly going to find yourself in the midst of many other international travelers, businessmen, and men of means, all looking for the same thing? Yes, its true that Moscow also attracts the greatest number of ladies from the provinces and other countries too, in search of financial opportunities, but according to your own calculations, they will be expecting more there too.

The point of arriving at Sheremetyevo, but then NOT looking at the domestic departures board, to peruse all the connections where Aeroflot can deliver you to, or arriving at Domodedovo, but NOT stirring your imagination considering all those places where S7 can connect you to, doesn't make much sense. I don't mean to infer that Moscow is not a great destination, it clearly is the center of the universe. But it's only the beginning.

It's just that when I read your Clarifications, I'm baffled that such comparisons are intended to illustrate that the US is a valid comparison and worth mentioning as a mongering option stacked against Russia? You make it sound like mongering in Russia, can be matched at the quality levels and price points of ladies in the US. Yes, I get it, that you meant JUST Moscow, but I have to stick my foot in here to say, wait a minute.

Consider that you could simply get back on another flight to connect to one of many provincial capitals, and in that one step, all YOUR clarifications go right out the window. Within the standard quality deviations of University and Institute ladies, 7's, 8's, and 9's, I found myself with more GFE relationships than I could handle in the range of sponsorships between 6000 and 10000 rubles (172 to $292). Almost every day, I was blessed with such abundance, enough to have tell ladies that I could not see them again, because I was already busy. Considering a quality apartment in the center can run $80 per day, there's no need to pay twice or three times that for a hotel.

Damn yourself, double and triple, there's no need for regrets. No, you can't go back in time to 2005, but why waste time looking back? It won't get you anywhere.

Instead, you can go forward, buy a ticket, board a connecting flight, keep going, move out of your comfort zone.

It's not called the glorious Motherland for nothing, or by accident.

Not to take anything away from the capital, Moscow will always be THE place that attracts the best and the brightest.

But also the most expensive, the worst traffic, and the least real, pragmatic, and unpretentious. [/QUOTE]Amazing reply.

Yes, just go elsewhere, but even in Moscow outskirts (I always live in a suite, two rooms, 45 square meters, for 100 , 25 min metro and it's OK) you can find clerks, jobless, maids, barmaid etc etc, but my favourite are students. Usually cultured in 18-22 area giving real GFE (you see real wet swollen pussy labia! Let's say in the 200 euro range.

If you do your proper homework you do not need to go to Night Flight and pay 30-50 kRUR for some hours with a girl that is like a log in bed. If you want you can find next door naive home gown teenies in hunt of some $ or , may be not stunners, but usually very effective in bed. And fucking like rabbits.

Moscow is like New York (even more sophisticated in my opinion). Go after the Urals. Get in a small city (less than half million) and you get easy in bed with students.

Another great place to drill is Ukraine. Specially now where no foreigners at all, Kiev is safe. Even Russia got a fall of foreigner, but there is a pussy market for locals.

You can even have fun with two. Almost all Russian girls have no problem in doing threesomes (light lesbian. No pussy licking).

KaveMan is writing about 2004 and so.

The golden age was between 1991 and 1997. Still remember a week spent with two sisters (18 and 20) for something like 800 USD. Great time.


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Just concluded a weekend (business) visit to the alleged southern "capital, or, as Moscow is affectionately known in St. Petersburg, 'karova bez mozgov. '.

And brains, and what Moscow does to brains and the psyche, is the topic of this post.

Flew in on Friday from the US via Amsterdam. Arrived at Sheremetyevo on a KLM flight. Took the Aeroexpress to Belorussky Train Station and then took the metro to the hotel (Best Western Vega). 35 minutes on Aeroexpress and then around 40 or so to get to the hotel. I had purchased the Aeroexpress ticket on the internet site prior to arrival (340 rubles; it's 400 if you buy it at the airport). Hotel was fine. Price was reasonable for Moscow. About 5 minutes from the nearest metro. If you need to buy a metro card all you have to do is walk up to the window in the metro station and use your fingers to indicate how many trips you want on the card. Kitchen Russian is optional. Unfortunately, to return, I had to arrange a car at the hotel: 2500 rubles for the return trip to Sherm Airport.

Shower and short rest and then back on the metro to meet Natasha Very Short Blue Hair. She came via train (1400 rubles for the ticket) from a city not too far from Moscow. Natasha Very Short Blue Hair has also met me in St Petersburg. Attached are two photos of her for comparison of the effect the two cities have on the human psyche. In the one from Moscow you can see the city has started damaging her psyche and turning her morose and religious and in the one from Petersburg you can see she is joyful and smiling and agnostic.

Saturday we went to Pushkin Cafe. Recommend a reservation on the second floor if you want some privacy.

Prior to arriving, Natasha Very Short Blue Hair had indicated she wanted to visit a "church, Matrona Moskovskaya, she's always wanted to go to in Moscow. And so on Sunday we went, and the negative effects of the city were in full effect. She was determined to see the relics and icons, place candles by each, kiss each, and otherwise queue up (the queues were outrageous - 1. 5 hours to get to one of the icons; almost 3 to see the relics; 30 minutes just to buy candles). It turned out her church was a huge monastery. Now I know what your thinking: How could I possibly stand in queues for so long with a glum girl who had dressed very conservatively on a hot day and was even wearing a head scarf so as not to offend the spirits of the monastery (or whatever the reason is all the women wear head scarves), well, as it turned out Natasha Very Short Blue Hair struck up conversations with people in the queues, asked them to save our places, and then we went off to visit other parts of the monastery, place even more candles, kiss even more icons, and even went to lunch. Fortunately, Natasha Very Short Blue hair retained enough brain matter to game the system.

So the lesson here is beware if a girl asks you to visit a church with her in Moscow. The negative effects of the city are such that they will turn her into a devout icon kissing, candle placing, relics obsessed tourist and you might find yourself foot sore.

Met Natasha Very Short Blue Hair at a birthday party for a (Russian) friend she was visiting in Petersburg, so I suppose you could put her in the category of girls you can meet if you visit Russia and participate in local social events. She was studying English at the time and was thrilled to practice her English with me at the party and then we exchanged numbers and VK info. We kept in touch and I invited her to visit Petersburg again and we went thru the song and dance of, 'but I don't have any place to say, 'you can stay with me, 'I don't have money for a ticket, yada yada yada. Our relationship currently is I pay for her tickets (of course) and give her presents, usually rubles (15000 this time) and something else (this time it was perfume and vitamins and shoes). She stayed with me from Friday evening until Monday morning.

[QUOTE=Skwiskwis;1575264] I had to arrange a car at the hotel: 2500 rubles for the return trip to Sherm Airport. [/QUOTE]Why was it necessary to return to the airport by car? Why not take the train? Is it not practical for a return trip? Conflict with your flight schedule?

[QUOTE=Skwiskwis;1575264]Just concluded a weekend (business) visit to the alleged southern "capital, or, as Moscow is affectionately known in St. Petersburg, 'karova bez mozgov. '.

And brains, and what Moscow does to brains and the psyche, is the topic of this post.

Flew in on Friday from the US via Amsterdam. Arrived at Sheremetyevo on a KLM flight. Took the Aeroexpress to Belorussky Train Station and then took the metro to the hotel (Best Western Vega). 35 minutes on Aeroexpress and then around 40 or so to get to the hotel. I had purchased the Aeroexpress ticket on the internet site prior to arrival (340 rubles; it's 400 if you buy it at the airport). Hotel was fine. Price was reasonable for Moscow. About 5 minutes from the nearest metro. If you need to buy a metro card all you have to do is walk up to the window in the metro station and use your fingers to indicate how many trips you want on the card. Kitchen Russian is optional. Unfortunately, to return, I had to arrange a car at the hotel: 2500 rubles for the return trip to Sherm Airport.

Shower and short rest and then back on the metro to meet Natasha Very Short Blue Hair. She came via train (1400 rubles for the ticket) from a city not too far from Moscow. Natasha Very Short Blue Hair has also met me in St Petersburg. Attached are two photos of her for comparison of the effect the two cities have on the human psyche. In the one from Moscow you can see the city has started damaging her psyche and turning her morose and religious and in the one from Petersburg you can see she is joyful and smiling and agnostic.

Saturday we went to Pushkin Cafe. Recommend a reservation on the second floor if you want some privacy.

Prior to arriving, Natasha Very Short Blue Hair had indicated she wanted to visit a "church, Matrona Moskovskaya, she's always wanted to go to in Moscow. And so on Sunday we went, and the negative effects of the city were in full effect. She was determined to see the relics and icons, place candles by each, kiss each, and otherwise queue up (the queues were outrageous - 1. 5 hours to get to one of the icons; almost 3 to see the relics; 30 minutes just to buy candles). It turned out her church was a huge monastery. Now I know what your thinking: How could I possibly stand in queues for so long with a glum girl who had dressed very conservatively on a hot day and was even wearing a head scarf so as not to offend the spirits of the monastery (or whatever the reason is all the women wear head scarves), well, as it turned out Natasha Very Short Blue Hair struck up conversations with people in the queues, asked them to save our places, and then we went off to visit other parts of the monastery, place even more candles, kiss even more icons, and even went to lunch. Fortunately, Natasha Very Short Blue hair retained enough brain matter to game the system.

So the lesson here is beware if a girl asks you to visit a church with her in Moscow. The negative effects of the city are such that they will turn her into a devout icon kissing, candle placing, relics obsessed tourist and you might find yourself foot sore.

Met Natasha Very Short Blue Hair at a birthday party for a (Russian) friend she was visiting in Petersburg, so I suppose you could put her in the category of girls you can meet if you visit Russia and participate in local social events. She was studying English at the time and was thrilled to practice her English with me at the party and then we exchanged numbers and VK info. We kept in touch and I invited her to visit Petersburg again and we went thru the song and dance of, 'but I don't have any place to say, 'you can stay with me, 'I don't have money for a ticket, yada yada yada. Our relationship currently is I pay for her tickets (of course) and give her presents, usually rubles (15000 this time) and something else (this time it was perfume and vitamins and shoes). She stayed with me from Friday evening until Monday morning. [/QUOTE]Nice story and as usual, the "FREE" pussy is never really free is it? LOL.

PC out.

Thanks for replies.

Please list other Capitals outside of Moscow worthy of visits for undiscovered 18-19 yo and 9-10's.

One side note. I think in all this hopping on jets and international mongering, many of you have overlooked the pussy right underneath your noses.

Online USA dating sites are an untapped gold mine of home-mongering. I realize many of you monger away from home for anonymity, escape, or maybe even fantasy.

Nevertheless, not banging Women for $25 in any Metro area near you is akin to using a telegraph for txting. I realize many of you will say I don't have time for the 1500 txts (yeah thats15 double-taps with coffee) OR showing up for 8 dates because I have important things to do like watch TV or go to bars!

Trust me banging 20's gals is fun at home too. Match even has a Russian language option you can filter on. With your Moscow pics in profile you will get responses.

True Mongering has no borders.

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Stravinsky;1575455]Why was it necessary to return to the airport by car? Why not take the train? Is it not practical for a return trip? Conflict with your flight schedule?[/QUOTE]The plane to Amsterdam was at 05.30 (departure). The first Aeroexpress train leaves Belorussky Rail Terminal at 05.30, so with the very early morning flight a car was my only option. I left the hotel for the airport at 03.00.

Let me also add I was only carrying a backpack with a laptop and a small travel suitcase, neither of which was heavy and so navigating the metro when I arrived wasn't made more difficult by luggage.

[QUOTE=Skwiskwis;1575536]The plane to Amsterdam was at 05. 30 (departure). The first Aeroexpress train leaves Belorussky Rail Terminal at 05. 30, so with the very early morning flight a car was my only option. I left the hotel for the airport at 03. 00.

Let me also add I was only carrying a backpack with a laptop and a small travel suitcase, neither of which was heavy and so navigating the metro when I arrived wasn't made more difficult by luggage. [/QUOTE]There is an excellent taxi company in Moscow. http://city-mobil.ru/?l=2

Both prices and reliability are excellent. About 900 rubles from Arbat area to Sherm at 03:00 and they will pick up immediately or schedule a pickup. Price structure is on the site. If you are in the center it never takes more than 10 minutes for a pickup. They send SMS with driver and car details. They mostly speak Russian but if you ask real nice they will put on an English speaking person. "Pojalusta, pa-angliski, pojalusta. ".

There is also a great iphone app for getting taxis.

[QUOTE=YummyPL;1575550]There is also a great iphone app for getting taxis. [/QUOTE]"Get Taxi" is a FABULOUS App. I tie it to my credit card and automatically add a 12% tip. Taxi drivers respond very quickly. Since discovering Get Taxi back last fall, I have not used one gypsy cab. This probably sounds like an ad, but seriously, this is so convenient. Especially if you are in a loud place and it's difficult to talk (or hear) the dispatcher. The app seems to understand addresses in both cyrillic and latin. Plus the GPS driven map is surprisingly accurate and leads the taxi driver right to you. And if you know in advance where you are headed you don't even need to TALK to the driver. Check it out! Www. Gettaxi. Ru.

[QUOTE=KaveMan; 1575507]Thanks for replies.

Please list other Capitals outside of Moscow worthy of visits for undiscovered 18-19 yo and 9-10's.

One side note. I think in all this hopping on jets and international mongering, many of you have overlooked the pussy right underneath your noses.

Online USA dating sites are an untapped gold mine of home-mongering. I realize many of you monger away from home for anonymity, escape, or maybe even fantasy.

Nevertheless, not banging Women for $25 in any Metro area near you is akin to using a telegraph for txting. I realize many of you will say I don't have time for the 1500 txts (yeah thats15 double-taps with coffee) OR showing up for 8 dates because I have important things to do like watch TV or go to bars!

Trust me banging 20's gals is fun at home too. Match even has a Russian language option you can filter on. With your Moscow pics in profile you will get responses.

True Mongering has no borders.

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Assuming you already are familiar with the outer pussy ring around Moscow, Kaluga, Tula, Rybinsk, Kostroma, Ryazan, Vladimir, Yaroslavl, and Tver' You don't need a jet for any of these cities, just a train.

Jets will get ya to Perm, Chelyabinsk, Ufa, Yekaterinberg, Nizhny Novgorod, Kirov, Ul'yanovsk, Samara, Kazan, Volgograd, Rostov, Saratov, Krasnodar, Voronezh, and on and on and on.

That's still just the beginning, dozens of other oblast cities accessible by train like Orel, Bryansk, Smolensk, Kursk, Yelets, Michurinsk, Cheboksary, Yoshkar Ola, Penza, Saransk, Cherepovets, Vologda, and on and on.

That's many many many lifetimes of University and Institute ladies to make new acquaintances.

Is July a good time to visit Moscow?

Is it high season or low season (ie, babes left for beach or family vacation)?

I know in EU late July / August its dead as most have left for summer holidays.

Would July be better than September?

Thanks

[QUOTE=KaveMan;1583140]Is July a good time to visit Moscow? Is it high season or low season [/QUOTE]Kaveman,

You're looking at this the wrong way. Moscow is not the Cap d'Antibes, it's not a tourist resort. There is no "season". In the summer, the girls wear their summer dresses, which has a definite advantage. In the winter they bundle up against the cold, snuggle up to stay warm and hang their trusiki on the steam pipe.

Moscow is whatever you want to make of it, at any time of the year.

[QUOTE=Stravinsky;1583564]Kaveman,

You're looking at this the wrong way. Moscow is not the Cap d'Antibes, it's not a tourist resort. There is no "season". In the summer, the girls wear their summer dresses, which has a definite advantage. In the winter they bundle up against the cold, snuggle up to stay warm and hang their trusiki on the steam pipe.

Moscow is whatever you want to make of it, at any time of the year.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clarification.

I did read in past threads that there are times when gals go back home (from school / college? Isn't Moscow like any city with slowdown in August?

P.S. Is Aeroflot best for fares from USA? (LAX or JFK).

July and August are considered "high" tourist seasons in Russia, meaning prices are comparatively higher for rooms, flights, etc. This is also a "high" tourist season for tourists crossing the Atlantic, what with Americans taking their summer vacations and such. By way of only one element comparison, I flew to Moscow a couple of weeks ago from Detroit. Round trip ticket price from the US: slightly less than 800 $. I'm flying again to Russia at the end of July. Returning in August. Round trip ticket price to Moscow: $1400.00. To Petersburg: $1600.00. If you happen to live in NYC you can get direct flights to Moscow for around $1000.00 in August, if you book ahead of time.

And don't forget your visa.

It's also worth keeping in mind that airline ticket prices have been going up. I believe May saw one of the highest increases in some years.

June (White Nights) is a high tourist season in St Petersburg. And the New Year is now a high tourist season in Petersburg and Moscow, for about a week or so.

The prices are lowest during winter. DOH!

Another way to check is to go onto the calendars of the rentals being offered on a site like Airbnb for example. You will be able to check out the periods when prices are lowest and when they are highest. Moreover, if you are traveling during a low season, definitely make an offer below the listed price. The owners are usually pretty agreeable at such times. Almost no one visits during the coldest months, for example, and they are willing to take lower prices just to generate some revenue.

Aeroflot is okay. I personally prefer to fly it only domestically in Russia as other Russian domestic airlines can be downright spooky (I once flew on S7 from Petersburg to Novosibirsk on an old double decker Soviet Ilyushin Il-86. Two of the bolts holding the seat were missing and the other two were loose so the seat rocked back and forth and the toilets had signs, Туалет не работает. Держитесь до тех пор, пока приземлимся, "out of order, hold it until we land" signs on them.) Aeroflot offers direct flights from NYC to Moscow. It's also in the Delta Skyteam alliance (you can use your Skyteam miles on Aeroflot) and I think its flights are all code share with Delta. The few times I've flown out of NYC they were definitely Aeroflot planes with Aeroflot crews, but maybe some are also Delta (Delta definitely flies in to Sheremetyevo from variety of US cities). On a side note, Aeroflot continues to use the hammer and sickle as its marketing logo: Soviet iconography becomes kitsch. And, if the flight attendants are female and attractive they definitely look sexier in Aeroflot uniforms, than in KLM, Delta, or Air France uniforms, in my humble opinion.

Russian universities are currently on summer break and resume again at the beginning of September. And Russia has a ton of holidays. This past week, June 12, was, for example, Russian Independence Day and Russians had the 12th and 13th off. However, I agree completely with Stravinsky. Moscow is a city of 12 million plus. Whether some of them are on holiday or at their dacha's for extended stays is irrelevant.

So. If one had to construct a Moscow dream trip (7 days). And $$$ spent was not an issue what would you do?:

Air (Best Airline, Airport & transfers).

Hotel (best for location, service and amenities: Bar, pool, sauna, local gals, concierge, etc).

Salon (best rated in Moscow).

Escort Service (Top Rated).

Best Club (Pickups or P4 P).

Best Escort Club.

Best Sauna.

Best Restaurants / Delis (To refuel and get local flavor, not 5*.

Best Day-Trip (College / Institute Gals).

Best Recent Escort (last 1-3 mos).

MY experience is sometimes its worth it to pony and get the best, and then fine-tune to find best deals after you know market.

A great spot for hunting classy non pros.

The terrace of the Kabuki restaurant, on top of the Atrium shopping center (4th floor) close to Kourskaia metro station.

I was there today together with 20 Moscovite pretty girls around me enjoying a rest after an afternoon of shopping. I was the only man (except for the servers). As I was in a business suit, I attracted a lot of welcome attention. The couple of girls on the table next to mine offered to help me translate the menu, as the servers spoke no English.

Regards to all.