Seoul

[QUOTE=Coitus68]Stop right there. Who started it, how many of them there were, and whatever else you think justifies why you got in the fight are immaterial and irrelevant.

It comes down to who got injured the worst, making the other party the guilty party. Doesn't matter who started it or why--Korea doesn't have a self-defense law--the "law" is the most injured is the least guilty.

If the other guy is claiming such huge injuries, you are guilty. Period. Your friends' minor injuries mean nothing because you did MORE damage to the other group of guys, and your friends will not be compensated for their minor injuries. You are the guilty party in the eyes of Korean law. As such, if you don't settle up, they WILL sue you and they WILL win.

If you are not in Korea, you're safe. They won't collect from someone internationally, but your friends in Korea will not be so lucky. They will pay either through settlement or through lawsuit. Your name will mostly likely also be in the lawsuit, but they won't be able to collect from you unless you are stupid enough to return to Korea.

A story similar to yours from about 6 years back, 2 Canadians out and about in Shinchon got jumped by three or four Koreans guys, but the Canadians defended themselves well and shattered one guy's jaw. The Canadians were jailed for assault and held until they paid the settlement (ended up being in the realm of $25,000). Once the money was paid, they were immediately deported.[/QUOTE]It's true, I also have a Korean friend who spent 3 months in jail after being jumped by a guy in Hongdae because he was talking to his girlfriend. My friend broke the guy's arm when he wrestled him down. So the rule is 1. Never get in to fights in Korea 2. If someone wants to fight you, try to get away from there asap.

[QUOTE=Coitus68]
A story similar to yours from about 6 years back, 2 Canadians out and about in Shinchon got jumped by three or four Koreans guys, but the Canadians defended themselves well and shattered one guy's jaw. The Canadians were jailed for assault and held until they paid the settlement (ended up being in the realm of $25,000). Once the money was paid, they were immediately deported.[/QUOTE]

Happens all the time. Really what your friend needs to be concerned about is his ability to "lets make a deal".

True story involving my subordinates in Tonducheon: Fighting amongst themselves 2 vs. 2. Crowd (the whole bar about 30 people) had gathered outside the bar to watch, alley was crowed, impassably. Foreign man (white) with Korean wife walking through alley pushed their way through the crowd and through the fight. While doing so, Korean wife was knocked down by flying combatant after he had received a punch to the face.

Couple showed up in my office Monday morning demanding 10 million won from each of the participants; Total 40 million won even though her injury was a bruised shoulder from the fall. After one month of negotiation between me and the family, they settled for 3 million won total in installments over 3 months.

Coitus is correct, whoever has the most injury gets the compensation. Courts take a long time, so tell your friend to pay up. But don't take the first offer. Its kinda like buying a blanket! They say 200...you say 100...you settle on 150 etc...etc...

[QUOTE=Dooly]Hey guys,
They assaulted me first by pushing me and fight went on fire between their group and my group.

We all got taken to police station and got interrogated.

All done, no settlement and ETC. Now, I'm back to state.

They are threatening us that they will sue us if we don't settle.

Two is what happens if they really sue us?

[/QUOTE]
The fact that the police conducted an interrogation/investigation and did not charge you with a criminal act certainly bodes well for you and your group but civil suits burden of proof are lower than criminal cases. As to the "what happens if they really sue us" question, unless you settle a binary act will occur you will win and they will lose or they will win and you will lose (and have to pay), what else could happen? Surely your friends can search the web to find lawyers for themselves in Korea.

So, that was the name of that place! I was walking out of the cheap hotel on top of the Hill, and the beautiful woman I was talking about came out of ABC like a trap door spider and literally dragged me into that place.

The mamasan was SO aggressive, but because I was the first one to get with the girl, she lowered the price for me. As soon as I took out my card, she swiped it quick. I actually had second thoughts because I had to get back to Busan, where I live, at a certain time I changed my mind. However, she refused to refund it. Can you believe that? Anyway, the girl WAS BEAUTIFUL and her pussy felt great, so I wasn't too upset about it. I may even go back there when I'm actually SURE about what I'm want. I'll just try to appease the troll better.

[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Sorry but I disagree. This site is about sex and sharing experiences including how to get it. For those new or visiting Korea, it is important to have information about how the locals react to your attempts to get busy. The girls in question are locals (not SPs) and may have sex with either Koreans or non-Koreans. However, many Korean men do not like western men with their women, and even if they have no interest in her, will prevent you from closing the deal. Has nothing to do with your game. As for P4P, other than Itaewon, I have been cockblocked at many, many SP locations (Mia, Yongsan, Cheonyqngi, Anmas, etc.). If a older woman is running the service, usually no problem, but if an older Korean male is, forget about it. Moreover, I have heard Korean male customers complain to owners that a foreigner is "tainting their women" in many, many P4P locations I have frequented. I actually helped Korean friends (including the guy in previous posts) land western women back home and here. Double standard in play. Regardless, information is key, hence the popularity of this site.[/QUOTE]


I sympathize with you Jack....Its the case of all third world and developed Asian countries having what i call "immaturity" & "Jealously"...I'm from Asia myself (India) and i totally abhor the double speak that Asian's put up on everything.

When we go to western countries we speak of equal rights and equal pay...Many Asian's have become millionaires and billionaires and many have married white girls, f**cked many white girls...but when it comes to the other way around...especially i have seen this with Indians, Arabs, Korean's, Chinese and Japanese.... (Philippines and Thai seems to have no issues) the male ego and double speak start to come up.

I have personally taken part in conversation when these topic's come up and always end up losing as majority just cannot wrap around their tiny brains away from nationalism and sentiments.

In China last month there was such a hue and cry when a Chinese women married a black guy and posted pictures of their living online...check out [url]www.chinasmack.com[/url]

It really is sad, I don't know what else to say...People in Asia not only needs to grow economically but needs to mature in their heads. Anyways, not all Asian men are like that but majority that are willing to fight and make a negative comment are..

Hi,

I'm new on the board. In my twenties. I just came from Canada and will be living in Seoul for awhile. I'm Korean but was born in Canada so my Korean is really novice.

I've been trying to experience what Korea has to offer in terms of women. Barbershops and Anma's seem to be easy to find. I'm finding it really frustrating finding Kiss Rooms and Dae Dal Bangs. Doesn't anyone have an complete listing on Google Map? I know people give directions but sometimes I end up walking for like hours looking for some places.

I've tried to use Naver and Daum to try to find them but they always need that Korean ID number. I did manage to find one Kiss Room near Jamsil/Songpa Station. The building does not have any signs outside indicating it is a Kiss bang.

Address:

??? 295-11? 402?

Translation: Seoul, Songpa-gu, SeongChon-Dong, Building's name is?, Room 402

Phone:

02-423-5812

010-2460-5812

(*You may need to practice your Korean. I don't even know if they would take a non-Korean)

Website:

[url]http://cafe.naver.com/thekiss5812[/url]

(*I've attached the map from the website below)

Hope this helps.

I'd like to ask for help finding a Dae Dal Bang (University Girls Hand Job place, etc). PM me. Maybe I can help you with your Korean in return. Honestly most places ask the same questions over and over again. I just taught a white friend of mine how to order food over the phone and he's a pro now.

Thanks

TP

went to yeongdeungpo rld, thanks to great directions (and maps) from users.

i walked out of yeongdeungpo main station. it is large station and part of a huge skyscraper. when you come out of the station you will cross the street and walk and take your next left. you'll see even from the intersection the pink lights. i walked the whole street. i honestly thought it was going to be longer and bigger but i guess i just pumped up the idea in my mind.

i guess because i look korea i got a lot of attention. it is big ego boost to walk and have all the girls call you "oppa".

after walking the whole street, i honestly thought the prettiest was the first girl on the right. she quoted me 210, 000 for the hour. i didn't negotiate as i'm not that skilled in korean.

i was kind of surprised as she dropped a foot in height as she stepped off her super high heels and lost 1-2 cups sizes from the bra. she was still pretty perfect. kind of felt i was having sex with a middle school girl.

great attitude and smiley.

would recommend to anyone.

I'm a newcomer to the forum, having lurked for some time and being very appreciative of the information here...

I'll be in Seoul for three days with a tight schedule (first time in South Korea) and am wondering if anyone here has had experiences with outcall "massage" services which advertise online. Places like koreanaroma.com or bobogirls.net all seem to be suggesting FS (going by the rate charged). Did anyone try them out? Quality of the girls? Any upsell involved? What about Su escort service?

I'll be staying at the Lotte Hotel downtown - any other reliable options nearby?

Any experiences are highly appreciated - PM me if you don't want to share in public!

[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Noticed a lot of Koreans and kyopos on this site now. Which always tends to amaze me since they have direct access to various P4P and other resources. That being said, I'm sorry to say but I finally validated what I expected about my only Korean friend (of 8 years). As indicated on previous posts, I was pretty sure he was cockblockng me and snagging my local pickups. I brought my western buddy out last night who spoke Korean to verify. Lo and behold when I would go to the bathroom he would work on the girl I was with in Korean, telling her I was player, etc. etc. then scoop her digits. He would then bow out early and then text her to offer her and her friend a ride home (with his Korean friend waiting in the car which he had set up previously). My western buddy saw the text on her phone. Always heard about this situation but never believed he was capable of it, after everything I have done for him (including save his relationship with his fiancé). Unbelievable, but yet expected. Not angry or even surprised anymore.[/QUOTE]That sucks dude. Me personally as a kyopo, I would NEVER pull that shit with any of my friends. I'm not really sure why you are friends with this guy. He's a scumbag.

[QUOTE=Starchild2012](Philippines and Thai seems to have no issues) [/QUOTE]
Never been to the Philippines, so I can't speak to that end, but Thai men ABSOLUTELY have issues with farang men and "their" women. Thai women who go with farang men and Thai women who go only with Thai men are treated and seen quite differently by not only the Thai men, but also the women.

Learn a little Thai and you would be very surprised with the amount of hate and venom they hide in the "land of smiles". Smile to your face as long as you are a walking wallet to them, but a knife in the back (or more likely a blindside suckerpunch and 6-on-1 beating) the second you are not.

[quote=turtle power]i'm korean but was born in canada [/quote]
off-topic, but this is a pet peeve of mine.

your family roots are korean, but you are not. you are canadian.
my family came over as immigrants not long ago, but i would never introduce myself or identify myself as romanian or french. my family came from romania and france, but i was born in canada. i'm canadian. so are you.

and now back to our regularly scheduled p4p program...

[QUOTE=Nc Guy 68]I'm a newcomer to the forum, having lurked for some time and being very appreciative of the information here...

I'll be in Seoul for three days with a tight schedule (first time in South Korea) and am wondering if anyone here has had experiences with outcall "massage" services which advertise online. Places like koreanaroma.com or bobogirls.net all seem to be suggesting FS (going by the rate charged). Did anyone try them out? Quality of the girls? Any upsell involved? What about Su escort service?

I'll be staying at the Lotte Hotel downtown - any other reliable options nearby?

Any experiences are highly appreciated - PM me if you don't want to share in public![/QUOTE]There are some agencies and freelances on CL. The easy part is to tell you what I know about the freelances. There appear to be two: One lady reports as Nina or as massage for "outcall" only. I thought I had an appointment with her the other night but she canceled on the first appointment and never showed for the second. Her rate was 150 for sensual massage only. The other freelance aways has a pic of her back and advertises 36C. Her rate via an e-mai lwas a little high at 250.

Goof luck.

Frank M

[QUOTE=Turtle Power]Hi,

I'm new on the board. In my twenties. I just came from Canada and will be living in Seoul for awhile. I'm Korean but was born in Canada so my Korean is really novice.

I've been trying to experience what Korea has to offer in terms of women. Barbershops and Anma's seem to be easy to find. I'm finding it really frustrating finding Kiss Rooms and Dae Dal Bangs. Doesn't anyone have an complete listing on Google Map? I know people give directions but sometimes I end up walking for like hours looking for some places.

I've tried to use Naver and Daum to try to find them but they always need that Korean ID number. I did manage to find one Kiss Room near Jamsil/Songpa Station. The building does not have any signs outside indicating it is a Kiss bang.

Address:

??? 295-11? 402?

Translation: Seoul, Songpa-gu, SeongChon-Dong, Building's name is?, Room 402

Phone:

02-423-5812

010-2460-5812

(*You may need to practice your Korean. I don't even know if they would take a non-Korean)

Website:

[url]http://cafe.naver.com/thekiss5812[/url]

(*I've attached the map from the website below)

Hope this helps.

I'd like to ask for help finding a Dae Dal Bang (University Girls Hand Job place, etc). PM me. Maybe I can help you with your Korean in return. Honestly most places ask the same questions over and over again. I just taught a white friend of mine how to order food over the phone and he's a pro now.

Thanks

TP[/QUOTE]I recently went to Sinchon (around Yonsei University) and found that there is a street among the regular bar streets that has 3 Kiss Rooms pretty much next to each other. Since it's an area with alot of foreigner they might be foreigner friendly. To get there get out from exit 1 and get to the back of Hyundai Department Store, walk past the park in the direction of Yonsei (on the main bar street) and then turn left at the first side street.

Greetings Turtle Power, Welcome to Seoul!

Wouldn't it be sweet if there was a Google maps for mongers? Unfortunately, I think the foreign contingent here is just too small, turns over too fast, and is hindered by the language barrier to such an extent that nothing gets off the ground.

I'm sort of curious why you're keen on the kiss rooms and dae dal bangs as they leave you with little more than blue balls and a big head full of desire once your time is up. Seems to me like the anma's are ultimately a better value and more bang for your buck.

[QUOTE=Turtle Power]Anma's seem to be easy to find. I'm finding it really frustrating finding Kiss Rooms and Dae Dal Bangs. Doesn't anyone have an complete listing on Google Map?
010-2460-5812

TP[/QUOTE]

Hi Seoul Friends;

I want to ask about Itaewon , is it the best and the safest place for foreigners and which Anma is upscale and foreigner-friendly?

Thanks a lot.