Jakarta

Popped by CJ's this Saturday around 12:30 AM. Friendly, welcoming staff and the band was superb, but the quality of cewek was average at best. In fact, I would say there are better-looking cewek at the nearby Blok M. I came across a stunner (the only one I could identify in the bar) near the cashier area as you walk in and she had an attitude that came with her (genuine) Louis Vuitton. At 1, 000, 000 IDR a pop, I felt it was a little too much for just 15-30 minutes of her time. As expected, she wouldn't budge even 100, 000 IDR and minutes later a Singaporean-looking guy snapped her up. It seems the bar clientelle is the corporate type, so people actually pay these prices. Oh, and the drinks are extremely overpriced. 35, 000 IDR for a glass of Coke!

Came across another less-cute but friendly girl who initiated contact after she caught me giving her a glimpse. She got a little turned off when I said I was looking for a Working Girl. She says she works as a Public Relations officer but is here with her friends. Thinking she may be here as a part-time WG, I ask her if she can go with me later on and she gives me a bad face. When I asked her why you came here, she said she is looking for a "rich white boyfriend". Nice place to find one!

[QUOTE=Egy Monger; 1171280]Have to say that Travel Hotel in Manga Bessar VIII is way overrated here. I did not find any cewek to my liking. Although the mamasans are less pushy at Travel, the quality and quantity is way below what I saw at Hotel Classic in Pasar Baru, where I came across at least 10-15 stunners out of the hundred or so. Maybe it was becase I went just before closing time?

Anyone want to tag along for Alexis soon? New guy in town.[/QUOTE]To EGY.

I been to Classic twice don't think girl are better looking than Hotel travel, I think the best time to go is before 8pm all the best one get pick before that, the problem with classic you cannot see the girl until after you change cloth and hotel travel you can have a drink with the girl first and you go to the room after you pick a girl no need to change in the locker room.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1172328]To EGY.

I been to Classic twice don't think girl are better looking than Hotel travel, I think the best time to go is before 8pm all the best one get pick before that, the problem with classic you cannot see the girl until after you change cloth and hotel travel you can have a drink with the girl first and you go to the room after you pick a girl no need to change in the locker room.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Fast Eddie I think you are confused with the bunker in Hotel Classic which is on the right hand side as you walk in as the Terminal is on the 2nd floor and the setup is fairly similar to HT. Best time is between 4-6pm for the WOW factor.

Hi guys,

I'm based in Europe and I've been spending my holidays in Pattaya (Thailand) over the last 2 years.

Honestly, I got a little fed up of the the big hassle with sometimes subsequent small room action you can get in Patts and I'd like a change.

Somehow I bounced then in the photo gallery of Indonesia and I don't know wheter this is the standard or an exception but it looks like you have better looking girls here (bigger tits and' ass at least) than in Thai. This got my attention, because I'm attracted by cuties (possibly inclined to hardcore sex).

So, I was wandering if you can help me to figure out what would it be a holiday here compared to Pattaya in terms of:

- P4P infrastructures and girls beauty / attitude.

- cost of living in general (hotels, food, transport).

- quality of beaches.

I'm writing in the Jakarta thread only because I would have better flight connections here than in Bali, but please consider that I do not know much about Indonesia at all, except that Bali is more touristic, maybe.

So, you can obviously answer both for Jakarta and Bali (I'm not copying and pasting this in the Bali thread only to avoid redundacy).

Or even pm me if you like an exchange of tips about Patts etc.

Thanks very much for your support.

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1172451]here compared to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I did a quick search on the word "Pattaya" in the Indonesia section and found a few answers for you.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1141133&highlight=pattaya#post1141133[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1140863&highlight=pattaya#post1140863[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?961-General-Info&p=1126905&highlight=pattaya#post1126905[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?962-Bali&p=1027114&highlight=pattaya#post1027114[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?962-Bali&p=1022346&highlight=pattaya#post1022346[/url]


I've pulled some Thai girls with great tits and asses. I do think there may be slightly more big breasted girls in Indonesia and the Philippines than in Thailand, but Thai girls are hotter overall (in my opinion). I personally think the girls in Bangkok are better looking than the girls in Pattaya for the most part. And I also think the girls in Bangkok are better looking than the girls in Jakarta for the most part. Working and mongering in Jakarta and Bangkok is great. And if I were to stay long term in one area, it would likely be either Jakarta or Bangkok to avoid the boredom of the small city beach scene. But for a 2 week vacation, the way Pattaya is setup and so convenient and cheap to move around, with cheap hotels in abundance it's hard to beat. Angeles City is even cheaper but not as nice when it comes to infrastructure. You've hit the mother load when you found Pattaya. But variety is the spice of life and if you want to try a new place other than Pattaya - Bangkok, Angeles City, Manila, and Jakarta are all good places to visit.

If you are into "hard core" sex, have you tried the Eden Club in Bangkok yet?

Okay, so I agree that it's a good idea to say you're married if you are. But what about the ring? Do you guys take off the ring or leave it on?

[QUOTE=Sgloming;1172631]Okay, so I agree that it's a good idea to say you're married if you are. But what about the ring? Do you guys take off the ring or leave it on?[/QUOTE]If you've already said you're married, what's the issue with keeping the ring on? I always say I'm married with kids. Not breaking up, definitely unable to enter into contract marriage / marriage with them, but willing to be a friend. I have had a couple of the girls still getting emotionally attached (JAD says they give "that look") despite all the warnings and being upfront and honest as to my status. But the ring is a good reminder to them of your status so better leave it on.

MD II

[QUOTE=Faaris; 1170720]Thats a pretty good analysis Doorman. I would agree on the most part. I would add that every freebie girl I have had (ok only 3 so far.) has also mentioned their dislike of marrying Indonesian men. Something I have not really understood yet. But whatever reason it is, the fact that your a foreigner also helps pull these girls.

Interesting point about declaring you already have a wife to avoid attachments. I'm not sure about this as I've never tried it but I have a feeling that I would not have got the girls I did if I declared I'm married to them, they do hope for something more I feel.

I'll be in Jakarta for a few days at the end of this week and intend to test the market very thoroughly this time. The only problem is its difficult to shag the girls the first time, you sometimes have to wait till your next in jakarta and have been building an sms relationship in between trips before they are ready to fuck. Or am I doing something wrong?[/QUOTE]Hey faaris

How did it go?

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1172653]If you've already said you're married, what's the issue with keeping the ring on? I always say I'm married with kids. Not breaking up, definitely unable to enter into contract marriage / marriage with them, but willing to be a friend. I have had a couple of the girls still getting emotionally attached (JAD says they give "that look") despite all the warnings and being upfront and honest as to my status. But the ring is a good reminder to them of your status so better leave it on.

MD II[/QUOTE]Whenever I monger, I say upfront that I am married with kids (and I am). But I leave the ring in the safe. No way I am taking a chance on losing that!

Anyone have any experience with the Jayakarta Hotel and its Club 36?

(Club 36 Hotel Jayakarta, Jalam Hayam Wuruk 126) Search did not lead to anything. Thanks, TTG

In my opinion, Club 36 is a waste of time. If you don't book a table in advance, you won't get one without paying someone there some money to get one. And the way the place is set up, you need a table. They do have topless dancers that show up around midnight. Some Thai, some Indo. And there are some lady escorts there who will try to get you to buy them drinks. The place is basically all locals who come there with a bunch of friends and buy bottle after bottle of liquor (which guarantees them a table). In the old days, this was one of the few venues with topless dancers, so it was a novelty. Now I can see topless dancers all over the place, so this place isn't worth my time. Yes, it does have Thai girls dancing there, but I go to Thailand all the time so that's far from a novelty for me to see that.

[quote=sexual healing;1172451]so, i was wandering if you can help me to figure out what would it be a holiday here compared to pattaya.[/quote]i wouldn't call the scene here as particularly easy. it's not "in your face" like thailand, so you need to deal with the constant hassle of moving from one place to another with taxi drivers that could learn how speeding in a traffic jam won't really solve any problem. and nobody really speaks english here, so there is always confusion. on the other hand, the quality of cewek here is much better than what you'd find in even bangkok in my opinion. pattaya is just a shithole where the leftovers from all across the country end up.

met up with smoothy the other day and hit classic hotel. there's definitely better stock in the afternoon than night.

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1172620]I did a quick search on the word "Pattaya" in the Indonesia section and found a few answers for you.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1141133&highlight=pattaya#post1141133[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=1140863&highlight=pattaya#post1140863[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?961-General-Info&p=1126905&highlight=pattaya#post1126905[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?962-Bali&p=1027114&highlight=pattaya#post1027114[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?962-Bali&p=1022346&highlight=pattaya#post1022346[/url]

I've pulled some Thai girls with great tits and asses. I do think there may be slightly more big breasted girls in Indonesia and the Philippines than in Thailand, but Thai girls are hotter overall (in my opinion). I personally think the girls in Bangkok are better looking than the girls in Pattaya for the most part. And I also think the girls in Bangkok are better looking than the girls in Jakarta for the most part. Working and mongering in Jakarta and Bangkok is great. And if I were to stay long term in one area, it would likely be either Jakarta or Bangkok to avoid the boredom of the small city beach scene. But for a 2 week vacation, the way Pattaya is setup and so convenient and cheap to move around, with cheap hotels in abundance it's hard to beat. Angeles City is even cheaper but not as nice when it comes to infrastructure. You've hit the mother load when you found Pattaya. But variety is the spice of life and if you want to try a new place other than Pattaya. Bangkok, Angeles City, Manila, and Jakarta are all good places to visit.

If you are into "hard core" sex, have you tried the Eden Club in Bangkok yet?[/QUOTE]Thanks Smoothy, very clever. Didn't know the key to do that search.

I got the picture. Definitely I'm on 2 weeks vacation, so I will probably stick to Pattaya.

Never been to the Eden Club, so don't know what happens there. Only once in Bangkok, but I didn't like it as a tourist, it's too chaotic and big.

By the way, with "hardcore" I just meant a girl who doesn't dislike a cim or who is not scared to try anal, since most of the thai chicks seem to avoid the two.

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1173141.] I got the picture. Definitely I'm on 2 weeks vacation, so I will probably stick to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]If you invest a little time and effort, you'll be rewarded in Jakarta. I'd suggest signing up for JAD's paid tour for one night to get the lay of the land, and then go out on your own. You just need to know a few key areas to hit and the best times to visit.

Greetings.

Anyone have the 411 (Hot and Sexi yung girls) in Top Gun, M Bar and D's Place as of recent? I lived in Jakarta 2006 for 1 year and was there 2 to 3 nights per week.

Any information will be helpful.