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[QUOTE=Bonkers Tokyo]Anyone know of a legit, non-pay, dei site that doesn't use sakura? Maybe too much to ask? LOL. I'd like to try one of them out, but I've read that most are a scam. Also, do any allow you to use your computer mail address? I hate getting spammed by porn sites to my phone. Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Do all of us a favor and RTFF before you ask a question that's been answered many times. There's a multitude of such info in various threads.

As I mentioned in the Osaka report that I would try my favorite AM gals when I got to Tokyo, I did the last 2 nights with young Tamaki and Misaki. A little bit disppointed that Tamaki would not do DFK and only covered BJ. Have not seen Misaki for a while and she seemed to have put on some weight especially on the face. Anyway, still very good experience with the two and would definitely try again but not that soon since they didn't come cheap. Anyone would also like to share their experirence with AM gals?SM.

[QUOTE=Bonkers Tokyo]Anyone know of a legit, non-pay, dei site that doesn't use sakura? [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Inakajin]Do all of us a favor and RTFF before you ask a question that's been answered many times. There's a multitude of such info in various threads.[/QUOTE]Inakajin is right, plus I guess that the correct sections to submit your request are "General info - nampa" or "general info", not "Tokyo"Anyway, I`d like to suggest you to read this post about deai (not "dei") I wrote some time ago[post]735364[/post]

[QUOTE=Inakajin]Sumata can be done other ways, too. Just did one of them two days ago, in fact. The woman lies either on her stomach or back with her legs down straight and together, you lube up her thighs and outer lips, lie on top of her and slide in and out between her thighs against her pussy. It can feel very realistic, and if she's on her back, you get to hug, kiss, etc.[/QUOTE]If you as man know how to do it, the girls do not need to be skilful at all like many forum members said. Actually, all my girls at college time were virgins and also never had Sumata before. The only requirements for a "total experience" with Sumata which feel as good or even BETTER than real sex is that: 1. The girls are reasonably excited so they are wet enough to lube your part.2. They pressed their thighs hard enough together.The first requirement is your responsibility. The second requirement was always fulfilled in my cases since all the girls were afraid that I may accidentally penetrate them. So they pressed their thighs as hard together as they could. This made the "total experience" since it could be tighter than the real thing. And in a real tight pussy, your part would be "pushed out" immediately when you lost your hardness when or after you come, and you cannot enter again. Not during Sumata. All my girls would open their thighs to "catch" my part again if I should slip out. This means a "guaranteed" long sensational experience during and after ejaculation, longer than the real sex.It could even be better than the real sex for the girls too. I actually made more girls cum like crazy doing Sumata than doing real sex. I think this is because you are robbing the clitoris much heavily with Sumata, and my college girls could relax and enjoy it since they believe they do not have to worry about getting pregnant (they were all very nervous if I was doing real sex to them even when I wear condoms).But since you get in touch with the fluid of the girl uncovered, it is not safe sex. This could happen even when the girls "work" you with her thighs, without contact with her outer lips or virginal. Because if she get excited and she is not wearing underpants, her fluid will drip to you, especially if she is on top of you.It could also go wrong in the other direction. When I was in college in China, my first college girl friend got pregnant after only 5 Sumatas even though she was still a virgin.The most wonderful thing with Sumata is that I could easily persuade college girls (especially when they are virgins and hesitate to have real sex) to do it, easier than to persuade them to do blow job or hand job for me. This is because they (wrongly) believe they cannot get pregnant, and the act is passive for them ? they do not have to know any technique (usually they only have to lie still when I do it). So especially the girls who do not have sex experience (virgins) feel comfortable with it.So next time, when your date or girl friend is hesitating to do more with you, simply suggest Sumata to her. But please do it covered, or at least with the correct technique.After the "accident" with my first college girl friend, I was able to learn from my mistakes and have done since then more than 1, 000 Sumatas without getting any girls pregnant again. The tricks are1. You should not let the girls lie on their backs. You have to hug them and lie together on your sides. Otherwise you "shot" at the bed sheet right under the virginal and the further pumping during the ejaculation would first spread your semen on your part and then spread from your part to the virginals. Once on the outside of the wet virginals, they will find ways (they actually swim upwards! ) into your girls and make them pregnant.2. You should make sure you are pumping in the right angle/direction without touching her virginal with the tip of your member even before you ejaculate.3. Do not pull your part too much out when you are pumping (if you draw too much out, the tip of your part may touch the virginals and spread your semen)4. When you are about to come, "fix" the position of the thighs by grabbing her bottom/thighs firmly to make sure you shoot exactly between her thighs freely to a safe distance behind her. This is because some girls would twist or wiggle like crazy at this moment.5. See behind your girl when you ejaculate. If you do not see your load shooting freely to a safe distance on the bed behind her (remember you are lying on sides, not on backs), then you have shot on your girl and your semen is now either on virginal or on the thighs of your girl. You should stop pumping and clean your girl immediately.Now enjoy the amazing Sumata experience![size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

Hey guys, I'm a first time poster, so I'll do my best to avoid annoying newbie questions.I haven't had sex in a loooooong time and I'm fed up. Can't take it anymore. I get paid in about a week and I decided to give myself an early xmas present.I tried going to Supergirls in Shimbashi a few weeks ago but was rejected at the door. I'm a big white guy. Obviously not Japanese enough.Anyway, I have very little experience. A few years back I went to Kabukicho and ended up paying ichi man for a condom BJ from a Chinese girl. That's a little expensive, no? I got to suck her tits, but still.I've heard the place to go is Sugamo. I've never been there. Again, sorry to ask a question that may have been answered (and yes I've used the search function. It just gives me THIS thread).I'm looking to get a BJ. I don't need FS. I don't care if she's Chinese or Japanese or whatever. Bareback would be cool. Do they really do that anywhere? I want to avoid spending ichi man again. I thought there were places (Sugamo? ) that were cheaper, but you get what you pay for. As in. Not so hot or friendly girls. Well, I'm a desperate man.Anyway, I can go anywhere in Tokyo really. But I wanted a game plan before I wander out so I don't get ripped off. I am sorry if this is redundant, but I really could use the advice of the experts here. I appreciate it.Thank you very much for helping me out.

[QUOTE=Newtokyoguy]Hey guys, I'm a first time poster, so I'll do my best to avoid annoying newbie questions.I haven't had sex in a loooooong time and I'm fed up. Can't take it anymore. I get paid in about a week and I decided to give myself an early xmas present.I tried going to Supergirls in Shimbashi a few weeks ago but was rejected at the door. I'm a big white guy. Obviously not Japanese enough.Anyway, I have very little experience. A few years back I went to Kabukicho and ended up paying ichi man for a condom BJ from a Chinese girl. That's a little expensive, no? I got to suck her tits, but still.I've heard the place to go is Sugamo. I've never been there. Again, sorry to ask a question that may have been answered (and yes I've used the search function. It just gives me THIS thread).I'm looking to get a BJ. I don't need FS. I don't care if she's Chinese or Japanese or whatever. Bareback would be cool. Do they really do that anywhere? I want to avoid spending ichi man again. I thought there were places (Sugamo? ) that were cheaper, but you get what you pay for. As in. Not so hot or friendly girls. Well, I'm a desperate man.Anyway, I can go anywhere in Tokyo really. But I wanted a game plan before I wander out so I don't get ripped off. I am sorry if this is redundant, but I really could use the advice of the experts here. I appreciate it.Thank you very much for helping me out.[/QUOTE]Wow, I haven't heard of supergirls turning anyone away, even folks who speak little/no Japanese. Did the tout say anything intelligible about it while moving you out? SG is always a reasonable place for a BBBJ, so it's hard to not recommend it. There are the 2 places up north, one in Shinjuku and one in Ikebukuro, that are the same shops (a senior moment hits me and I can't recall the name, but it's searchable by Ikebukuro I'm sure). They are a little higher priced but not too bad. Bareback there as well, with CIM too. Don't wait so long next time. It's not good for the prostate... :eek:Tankuki

NewTokyoGuy,Here is a google map link to Jan Jan's, probably the most popular pink salon in Sugamo. Cost is JPY3000 before 5pm for a BBBJ CIM. The store sign is written in katakana - ジャン ジャン. IME, the girls are always friendly and sometimes attractive (proportional to one's expectations for a place like this). [url]http://maps.google.co.jp/maps?f=q&hl=ja&geocode=&q=%E5%B7%A3%E9%B4%A8&sll=36.5626,136.362305&sspn=29.14848,55.810547&ie=UTF8&ll=35.732779,139.740332&spn=0.014457,0.027251&z=15&layer=c&cbll=35.73277,139.740194&panoid=toxFqKv5IyuPTytiKkkI-Q&cbp=12,177.3905552709782,,0,3.5614593144840856[/url]Hope this helps and Happy Mongering!-EtBr

[QUOTE=Ultra Gaijin]Just wanted to give a report on a FS option for non-Japanese-looking gaijins.Was wandering around Kabukicho and got dragged by the touts down an alley-- the one immediately to the left of the Shinjuku kuyakusho as you stand on the main street-- and back to the Arao building. On the 5th floor is a hostess club called "Kilala"-- but there is no "hostessing" going on here. The girls are hot, Chinese and Japanese, and as soon as you come in they pour you a drink and grab your unit, and ask if you'd like to go to a love hotel. Price=Y30, 000+hotel fees. Friends, both non-Japanese-looking, closed the deal for FS and were very satisfied. Very cute girls.You can find the building on Google Maps or Google Street Views, it's right next to the big "Angel Kiss" sign.[/QUOTE]Finaly making my first post. I've been a big fan of the forum for a while. I agree with the recommendation for club KiLaLa. I have been there several times and often take out two girls, either back to my hotel or a love hotel. They are very good about foreigners and the girls are hot. Tonight I had two early 20 yo J-girls and it was a blast. They took me to a love hotel and provided FS with each girl and they were really into it and also played with each other. I have visited several "date clubs" in Kobukicho and this is the best one I have found by far for quality and good service.Here is a link to the location in google maps.[url]http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=35.695036,139.703847&spn=0.002675,0.01133&z=17&layer=c&cbll=35.695036,139.703847&panoid=BbbENc3Z2t-AuRdCDWfN1w&cbp=11,322.4693598545141,,0,0.35263755246527345[/url]

Clarification on Silky Doll-They are gaijin friendly, however the price listed on their website (25000 yen) is not all inclusive. It is only the meeting fee. The total cost for a visit to Silky Doll will cost 75000 yen.

Checked out the Chinese Este Shops at Ueno. Along with the usual service menu, many of these shops advertise "2R" - two round - full service at unbelieveably (for Japan) low prices around JPY8,000. Made a list of three promising shops - M69C ([url]http://www.m69c.net/menu.htm[/url]), Ichigo Musume ([url]http://ichigo-musume.com/main.php[/url]) and EN ([url]http://ueno-en.com/main.html[/url]). I was really interested in M69C because they advertised that 3 free mobile phone pics (no face) were included in the package. Thought it would be a nice souvenir of the experience. Got to Ueno station, went out the Asakusa Exit (see pic #1) and called the M69C number from the public phone. Guy answered and I said I wanted to visit the shop. I got all the directions to the shop (in Japanese, of course) and then all of a sudden the guy asks if I am a foreigner. I say yes and he says the shop will not entertain foreigners. Hmm. Okay. So I call Ichigo Musume and get the directions to the shop - down past the Matsuya (see pic #2) and to the building next to the UFJ Bank ATM. Go to the room and the guy is surprised to see a foreigner staring him in the face. He looks at me and struggles to say that they don't entertain foreigners. I reply in Japanese "why, I'm a nice guy." He thinks about it and asks me to take a seat. Then he asks me if it's my first time, do I know the system, blah blah blah. I politely answer him in my best Japanese and he points to the regular price (JPY10,000) and points to an (unappealing) girl pic and says "this is the only girl who can go with you." I could tell he was trying to do the least for me, so I gave my "sumimasen" and politely excused myself. Feeling a bit discouraged, I go downstairs and call the last shop on my list - EN. The guy happily answers and guides me to a different room at a different floor of the same building as Ichigo Musume. I go up the elevator and the shop guy points to three pictures of reasonably appealing available girls. I pick the one that fits my taste best and choose the 60min course for JPY10,000. I wasn't going to bother about asking for the Internet discount to JPY8,000 - I needed to get some testicle relief. He calls the girl by mobile and says that "a nice Japanese-speaking foreigner is on the way." The guy prepares a slip of paper with the name of the girl (Emi), date, course, start time and room number (see pic #4). I go to the elevator and take the ride up to the room, knock on the door and Emi is there to welcome me in. The apartment is a "3K" - three rooms and a kitchenette - layout and Emi has the room in the back. The rooms have accordion-type plastic doors, which don't really lock.Emi was proof positive to me that these Este-type shops work with touched-up photos. Emi was 5 years older than her sample photo suggested. But I wasn't disappointed with Emi's appearance. I asked her how old she was and she said she was 27. Emi tells me to strip for shower. Clothes off and wrapped in a towel, we make our way to the common shower. Pass the room next door and hear the girl moaning. Like other Este shops, the shower service is focussed on potential "contact points" - Emi washes my nipples, naughty bits, crotch and hands as well as a cup of mouthwash. I hop out, dry off and back to the room while Emi does a quick wash-up. While she was out I popped a quick pic of her room (see pic #5).After a few minutes Emi appears wrapped in a towel. She guides me to the bed and starts with the massage - very good. Emi likes to chat and she tells me that she is from Guangzhou, has been in Japan for 3 years, is a "part-timer" and that she has a regular non-P4P job. The session was fairly standard. She starts on my back and ended up spending quite a bit of time there - almost 20 min. I realized that time was going on so I guided her to lay down and started licking her tits. Went for some kissing but it was far from the advertised deep French kiss, more like a "shallow kiss with tongue sticking out." I slipped my hand to her crotch and felt to her crack and thought she was soaking wet, but did a smell test it turned out that she had just shot a glob of KY Jelly into her snatch. Emi surprised me by taking my hand and applying a condom onto my fore and middle fingers so I could finger fuck her. This was contrary to the sign in her room (see pic #6). Slipped my covered finger pair into her slit. She moaned and looked happy. Just 20min left, so time to get to business. Sent her down south to suck me off and she went to apply a condom, but I was quick to instruct her for "nama" service. She slurped tentatively for a bit and I was hard for the main course. Covered up and banged her doggy and mish. For a mature, Emi was nice and tight. Must have been the part-timer advantage. Popped and cleaned up. Time was up so I just dressed. Emi escorted me to the door and bid me a farewell. Popped a pic of the hallway out side the apartment (see pic #7) and made my way out and back. Satisfied.Impressions/Comments on the Experience: The Ueno Este scene looks fairly inaccessible to foreigners unless you can speak very good Japanese. Better to call and see if you can get directions to a preferred shop before you go to Ueno. It looks like the competition is very rapid as I already saw many of the Sugamo este shops advertising for "2R" service and even photos. Like the other shop I tried, the girls are Chinese, but the manners are much more Japanese-like, which takes off a lot of the rough Chinese edge. As I noted above, many of these shops advertise as using "untouched" photos of the girls (especially the ones that they show at the shop for selection), but I can confirm that heavy Photoshopping is the rule rather than an exception.I can say that only the most determined and disciplined punter will actually get "2R" (two round) service in the 60min Course. The girl will do her best to fritter away a substantial amount of time with shower and massage. Unless you are a quick cummer and have quick recovery time, either reduce your expectation to "1R" or increase your session time to allow for a relaxed pace.Overall I found the experience quite okay. The process may be a bit mechanical, but at least it is reasonably priced and you will get some needed testicle relief.Enjoy Tokyo,AsianRain[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. 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A mediocre experience with a Chinese provider in Ueno.From the JR Ueno station, I made an appointment and received directions to the Mango Club ([url]http://www.u-mango.com/[/url]). Gaijins are welcome, but at least enough Japanese to follow simple directions seems necessary to find the building from the station. It was apparent that the guy who answered the phone (and who also ran the show when I got to the place) spoke no English.The "club" is located in a small, run-down apartment that contains at least three rooms and a reception area. I was offered a 60 min course for JPY9500 and 90 min course for JPY15000; I chose the 90 min. There are other options available, such as a 60 min session with 2 providers, one after the other.I was introduced to? (Lara), an attractive (7/10) 20 yo girl from Macau. Certainly for the price, Lara was hot: a youthful, pretty face and a tattooed, fit body. The photo on the website is fake, BTW. Although I cannot complain about Lara physically, her enthusiasm was certainly lacking.First a joint shower, very brief BBBJ, DATY, mish and finished doggie. Lara was uncannily motionless throughout, and made ton the irritating high-pitch squelling that is so prevalent in J-porn. The interlude was unexpectedly peaceful (perhaps the highlight of the night) because Lara not only cannot speak English, she cannot speak much Japanese either. Since it was apparent to both of us that verbal communication was nearly impossible we spent a good 30 min quietly cuddling before round 2, which consisted of another BBBJ, cowgirl and mish.One interesting quirk was that Lara has a very obvious aversion to bodily fluids, something I rather appreciate. For one, no kissing. Also, she began both BBBJs with a mouthful of brown disinfectant. She spits it out after a minute or so, but it leaves your penis with the cool (as in cold) Altoids feel. Unfortunately, the BBBJ were not enjoyable otherwise because literally every 30-60 sec she stops in order to spit-out precum. I requested a condom for the second BBBJ (now a CBJ), which did improve things.Overall it was a satisfying experience. I will probably repeat because I expect their other providers are also young and cute, and because of the price for 2 pops.EtBr[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

[QUOTE=Tankuki]Wow, I haven't heard of supergirls turning anyone away, even folks who speak little/no Japanese. Did the tout say anything intelligible about it while moving you out? SG is always a reasonable place for a BBBJ, so it's hard to not recommend it. There are the 2 places up north, one in Shinjuku and one in Ikebukuro, that are the same shops (a senior moment hits me and I can't recall the name, but it's searchable by Ikebukuro I'm sure). They are a little higher priced but not too bad. Bareback there as well, with CIM too. Don't wait so long next time. It's not good for the prostate... :eek:Tankuki[/QUOTE]I've been to Supergirls about 15 times or so over the last 2 years. I stopped by today and the tencho made a big X with his hands and said "dame dame". I tried to explain to him in Japanese that I was a regular customer (of course he already knew that) but he had no interest in discussing it further and just kept saying "dame dame". Zannen desu.

[QUOTE=Shatneresque]X[/QUOTE]Yup. Same experience about a week ago. Oh well.

Hey guys,Sorry it took me a few days to reply. I have to use manga kissas cause I don't have a computer! Yeah, I was denied at Supergirls in Shimbashi. Found the place really easy thanks to directions I found here on the forum, and the guy in the door had his hands up in an "X" before I even got close. Didn't say a word, just gave me an evil icy death stare. And I have to tell you, it was really infuriating. I was easily twice his size, and in my mind's eye I could just picture myself ripping him in half in an Incredible Hulk style rage, but instead I had to just slink off like a toddler that had just been scolded and told "no. " Not a pleasant feeling.I guess that's why I'm nervous about trying again. This place "Jan Jan's" sounds perfect. But I'm already nervous. And not only that, it's been so long since I've been with a chick, what if my equipment malfunctions? Am I overthinking things? Good god, I need to be serviced. BADLY.Thanks again for the kind recommendations. Any other info or advice you guys have would be great!

[QUOTE=Evan Stoner]Yup. Same experience about a week ago. Oh well.[/QUOTE]Wonder what happened to make them change their open door policy? You'd think with the economy in the state it is, discretionary spending places like SG would be looking to attract more customers instead of becoming more exclusionary. As you said, oh well. Maybe its time to get a new hobby like stamp collecting.