Moscow

Fantasys has been closed. Dolce Vita has also been closed, at least all three phone numbers listed on its websites are non-functional. (Anyone who knows otherwise, please let me know. I guess it could also just be something to do with August.).

Charmel is still in operation. Still 5000 RUR. Just the same experience it has been in the past: attractive, slightly educated girls; stately rooms rooms; meeting point at the Sberbank (see older posts).

Anyone who can recommend another good salon in Moscow or who knows anything about Dolce Vita?

I posted on the Sweden forums about my experiences with Sugar daddy dating websites across Europe and semi pro freebies or almost freebies. Anyway I notice after RTFF the last 20 pages here or so that some of the women from rosdosug are on the sugar baby / daddy website selling puxxy in London.

This young lady even uses her same "working" name and pitcures. Does anyone have experience with her.

[URL]http://www.rusdosug.com/indi178734.htm[/URL]

Thanks and sorry to hijack the thread. I plan on coming to Moscow soon and will use recommendations from here.

All the best.

I must say that I have never been offered sex for money in Moscow, it is a special city full of girls that just want fun. Unlike Kiev and Petersburg it is a real place that is not rampant with sex adverts, the city is oddly known as a prostitution capital but in my opinion this is a lie. Yes, you can find escorts and paid girls, but unless you are looking for it or go to Soho or someplace like this than you will find normal girls for free. Also use mamba and badoo, get VIP and talk to all girls for at least a month before visiting the city. Ask them to walk with you and show you around.

[QUOTE=WingForwing;1603562]I agree with you PLUS sometimes you simply don't know if the lady is pro or semi pro in such places like park, mall or caf. I don't know how Russian women would react with us making a "unmoral" offer, but in the Western world you got be very careful with what you say or do, otherwise it can be very dangerous if the woman is none of the above. I am not a fan of guessing games, so also I prefer to get things straight.[/QUOTE]Wandertheworld I suggest that you go at it alone, many girls are happy to practice English and offering a girl at gorky a tea or coffee together at the many places located at the park is a great step. My first trip 4 years ago as a tourist was solo, and I spoke no Russian. I had the best trip of my life.

If you will go talk to a girl, leave your friends to the side and go alone. Groups scare these girls.

I've taken a look through your notes and I believe you guys are mostly meeting ladies at salons and places like that located in the center or thereabout, which is fine when you are not short of cash. However, if your budget is a bit tighter, you could search for good deals outside of the third transport ring, that could save you a lot. A Russian speaker could be quite useful, however.

[QUOTE=WebWerewolf;1605102]However, if your budget is a bit tighter, you could search for good deals outside of the third transport ring, that could save you a lot.[/QUOTE]If your budget is tight, you're on the wrong continent.

[QUOTE=Stravinsky;1605146]If your budget is tight, you're on the wrong continent.[/QUOTE]Well actually I am having spent 2 years in Vietnam with far more hotties available for a cheaper price or without any money at all, I miss Asia.

[QUOTE=WebWerewolf;1605148]Well actually I am having spent 2 years in Vietnam with far more hotties available for a cheaper price or without any money at all, I miss Asia.[/QUOTE]Beauty is subjective. You cannot compare Asia to Europe. Besides, you are comparing a very impoverish country to a country that is flushed with oil money.

For me, in summertime, Moscow is the best place in the word:

A. Walking in the streets, you can see many very attractive girls with sexy and classy outfits.

Be. There are semi-pros, girls in their 30's or 40's, they have a job, some have one or two kids, some even have a husband, and they will come to your place and have sex with you for $300 (sometimes even for 5000 rubles which is $150).

Most of the girls I have met were attractive (6 to 9), some were highly educated, and I had sex with most of them like with a regular girlfriend as they are looking for their own pleasure as well as for your pleasure.

I had very few bad experiences; of course some happen to be real pros, and some where thinking they were very pretty, and that screws everything up.

Where else in the world can you find such a paradise?

[QUOTE=Stravinsky;1605146]If your budget is tight, you're on the wrong continent.[/QUOTE]Strav is right. Some of you youngsters in your 20's, 30's, and 40's can play the freebie game, using charm and alcohol consumption to chase the skirts to score on the cheap.

Some of us have left those decades behind, now realizing that patience and generosity is a better formula to meet the needs of sponsorettes.

The idea proposed that Russia is flush with oil money, does not translate to any real improvement in standard of living for the average citizen there. Higher salaries for normal jobs are equal to higher prices for food, clothing, rent, etc.

Its also a matter of taste and what a monger is comfortable with. There's no way to blend in, in Asia, if you aren't Asian. And Chercheur's revelation of available ladies in the 30-50 year age bracket, left out the entire population of ladies in their 20's, that are just as likely to need a sponsor, because the economy is not improving for them either.

The bottom line is, if you CAN afford it, AND the slavic culture is your preference, make the maximum investment that you can, and contribute to the economic advancement of a deserving population. Politics aside, your efforts have a good chance of creating good will in both directions.

[QUOTE=Aoratos;1604890]I must say that I have never been offered sex for money in Moscow, it is a special city full of girls that just want fun. [/QUOTE]This is maybe because you didn't visit the places they are used to hook. Or maybe they asked but you did not get it, because she did it indirectly.

Anyway I would say, I also used to visit the "wrong" areas myself in the past, the places where I visited there were more middle class / upper class intellectuals who spoke some English. Long conversations, litle sex.

I was able to sleep with Musicians and a lot of Economists (the Russian woman is known to be good in Math, Physics, etc. Compared to western women). This is nice, but I am not looking for a woman to marry (some of them misunderstand that), I am looking just for good time with a normal hot girl, not stupid but easier to deal with than those listed above. I my bed I'm not looking for a philosopher, not any more.

To marry I would choose one of those intellectuals, that kind who never asks for money.

[QUOTE=WingForwing;1606286]This is maybe because you didn't visit the places they are used to hook. Or maybe they asked but you did not get it, because she did it indirectly.

Anyway I would say, I also used to visit the "wrong" areas myself in the past, the places where I visited there were more middle class / upper class intellectuals who spoke some English. Long conversations, litle sex.

I was able to sleep with Musicians and a lot of Economists (the Russian woman is known to be good in Math, Physics, etc. Compared to western women). This is nice, but I am not looking for a woman to marry (some of them misunderstand that), I am looking just for good time with a normal hot girl, not stupid but easier to deal with than those listed above. I my bed I'm not looking for a philosopher, not any more.

To marry I would choose one of those intellectuals, that kind who never asks for money.[/QUOTE]Hello W4 W,

Any advise to visiting places in Moscow? I like your point of view about where to go to find nice girls for sex. I know many high end places where you waste lot of money just for long long conversations. And I want to visit other kind of places.

[QUOTE=BackToBass;1606798] I like your point of view about where to go to find nice girls for sex. I know many high end places where you waste lot of money just for long long conversations. And I want to visit other kind of places.[/QUOTE]It depends on what exactly you are looking for. PM me for more details.

When I am in a hurry I do prefer salons (many entries here on this forum from other mongers as well). There is also a "sex" catalogue they use to put on cars, it is like a magazine but it contains hundreds of ads from pros, semi pros but also some fakes too.

Once I was close to Old Arbat I saw one of these dewushki Catalogue even on a parked police car (maybe somebody did as a joke).

[QUOTE=Aoratos;1604890]
Wandertheworld I suggest that you go at it alone, many girls are happy to practice English and offering a girl at gorky a tea or coffee together at the many places located at the park is a great step. My first trip 4 years ago as a tourist was solo, and I spoke no Russian. I had the best trip of my life.

If you will go talk to a girl, leave your friends to the side and go alone. Groups scare these girls.[/QUOTE]I used to do that in my country when I was young and in several beaches, most of the time (around 90%) girls didn't talk. Still, I'd have loved to try that again in my age (30's) but somehow you are again missing the point. 3 times I have been to Russia, Ukraine etc. From Monday to Friday. We come at Monday morning and leave at Friday evening. I'm married which means I can't get lost for several hours. Also I leave work together with my colleagues late in the evening and go to some restaurant. Noone wants to act in any other way because most of us are married. I'm just guessing most of the guys who use escorts services are married as well.

If I ever get divorced-god forbid- or get a chance to work alone I'll be sure to take your advice but until then escorts are the way to go. I'm right now searching for Kyrgz women and even though I have learned some places girls hang out, it would be hard for me to locate them.

Best of luck in your mongerings.

'it was a hot day in august, and the clocks in the alleged southern capital were striking thirteen'. there's just such a wrongness to that place. now i know what your thinking, why do i keep going there if it freaks me out so much? it's the curse of this forum. once i started criticizing the place on this forum, i started having to go there semi-regularly. thankfully short trip there in august in the middle of a longer trip to petersburg, tver and ukraine. couple of nights only. fast train from petersburg to that place again. stayed again at the best western vega, which i recommend only if you have already made arrangements to meet a girl. to get to the elevators, you need to show your hotel pass and everyone with you has to show theirs as well, so if your with a girl she has to register at the front desk. tons of tourists use the hotel. big groups of them. but it is reasonably priced, has a good buffet breakfast, and is super close to a metro stop. mystifying trips again on the metro that must have been built by beavers on lsd.

i'd made arrangements to meet natasha blue hat (photo attached- photo is about a year old). girl i had met on ruscams or peekshows a few years back, back when the video sites were very good places to hook up with russian and ukrainian girls. she used to live in petersburg, where we met semi-regularly for a while, but then she moved to the alleged southern capital, presumably after suffering some kind of traumatic brain damage.

she's also somewhat psychologically unpredictable (do i detect a theme in these reports?) and has something going on with the color red. and you might find her on mamba. not sure. we had a brief discussion about how we met and she made a reference to working sometimes on a dating site, but i didn't press her and it may or may not be mamba. she's tall, small breasted, leggy (another theme), about 175, and vocal during game time. the donative was 22000 rubles for two days and nights (something having to do with buying a refrigerator) and a bottle of j'adore. however, she speaks little, really no, english.

Hi,

Just got my semester break and came to Moscow.

I have heard different stories about how one can get cheated by girls in Clubs and other places. I'm curious to know is there any cheaper place like some brothel or individual prostitutes' website where I could find nice girls and not very expensive? (Less than 2500 Rubles).

Because I have seen some websites where girls are with 2 much cost and with same prices I can find girls easily in Europe.

So anybody to guide me please for my search??