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Where are the white women at?

I was in the Sinchon area and the thought of spending a few minutes with a naked young Korean girl sounded appealing, so I decided to try Cleopatra. It was easy to find thanks to the directions on this forum. Unfortunately, as soon as I got to the bottom of the stairs, I was met by a young guy who had his arms crossed and was shaking his head "no. " So, either they have gone to a no-foreigner policy or they just weren't in the mood to serve a whitey tonight.

Feeling a little let down, I made a return visit to Belle. My third visit there over the last year and a half or so. Typical routine. Pay 70, 000 KRW, change into a robe, shower, return to room and push button to let the girl know you're ready. After a 5 minute wait, in walks what I would call a very average looking Korean girl in her early 20's. Very slim, and somewhat conservatively dressed in a knit top and mid-calf length skirt. Now, call me weird, but for some reason I find average looking, combined with clothing that isn't ultra-revealing, incredibly hot. It turns me on even more than a sexily-dressed smoking hot girl. Seriously, this girl looked like she could have stepped out of a college classroom just a few minutes ago. She introduced herself as Meech. I took off my robe, laid down on the table, and she went to work.

Standard massage routine. 10-15 minutes of kneading my back and butt with her elbows and knees. Nothing special, but relaxing. She attempted to make conversation in English and actually did fairly well. She had a very sweet personality and was fun to talk to. She removed her top, and then came about 5 minutes of her licking my back, legs, and butt cheeks before asking me to turn over. On the flip side, she licked my nipples for a few minutes, then moved down to the lower region for a short BBBJ. She didn't mind me fondling her breasts and feeling her legs up under her skirt (she was wearing panties). The HJ finish was excellent and I had one of the most intense endings I've ever had in one of these places.

All in all a good experience for the money. Belle is not everyone's cup of tea, but you have to keep it in perspective. 70, 000 KRW is just a little more than $60 US, and that doesn't get you anywhere near this much in the states. The only thing that would make this place a little better was if the girls got completely naked instead of just topless. Reportedly they do get naked and perform similar service at Cleopatra, but unfortunately that place appears to be off limits to foreigners now.

About Grand Hyat Hotel Sauna special massage, how it is like?

Full Service?

Hit of miss KW. When people starting throwing cash around, standards and service decreases. I don't mind paying a little more if service is stellar (repeat offender-like Nana), but untested ones can leave you feeling violated. If we keep prices reasonable then SPs will appreciate when you drop a little more after quality has been provided.

Yes, I can be a cheap Charlie but if I leave satisfied then I am more generous. Been burned so many times bro.

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]


A more serious reservation is her pricing/timing policy. All of the above took place in 30 minutes. That's about a third of the time I usually like to spend. The duration wasn't a problem, though, as I was simply on a hair trigger with lust for this girl. However, it turned out that 30 minutes according to her rule is 10 minutes overtime. She didn't make any fuss about this and, even during the session, she didn't clumsily try to rush things along, physically or verbally, like some of the lesser talent does - although, truth be told, she didn't have to as I was, as said earlier, in an unusual headlong sprint to the finish anyway. But that 30 minutes was it for W150K. Which in itself isn't bad considering that the usual offer from the best providers on the Hill for an hour+ of first-rate service is 300. On the other hand, I'm a little put out that she didn't state the time limits at the git-go; I thought I was getting a bargain @ 150/hour - the hour being in my experience the std. timing on the Hill unless one affirmatively negotiates for ST. My bad, too, I guess, since as a veteran I should know better than not to question a deal that seems to be too good - another backhanded compliment to the capacity of Hae-Sue's charms to hot-wire the little head and short-wire the big one, I guess.

I'd definitely repeat (as long as the ATF doesn't get too pissed off), but would make sure to clarify the terms of engagement in the future.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]Hit of miss KW. When people starting throwing cash around, standards and service decreases. I don't mind paying a little more if service is stellar (repeat offender-like Nana), but untested ones can leave you feeling violated. If we keep prices reasonable then SPs will appreciate when you drop a little more after quality has been provided.

Yes, I can be a cheap Charlie but if I leave satisfied then I am more generous. Been burned so many times bro.[/QUOTE]

I hear you, but I find niggling over price queers the experience (and if the girl does it by asking a ridiculous amount and not immediately accepting a market price counter, I just walk); so my strategy is to give them what or close to what they ask, while letting them know politely I expect them to perform. If they drop the ball, I quietly let it be known and don't repeat unless and until it's evident both that they've gotten the message and are willing to play by my rules. It's amazing how many of them come around.

Hey guys, I've been lurking on this board for quite a while and decided to help people out. Below are links to daum maps street view. This is in Korean, but it's pretty easy to navigate around and I always find it's much easier to make my way to new places after seeing how to get there online. On any of these you can click the X in the window to zoom out to see where it is in the city.

Let's start.

Mirai - Gireum Station Red Light District - Immediately outside of exit 10 you will see rainbow flap type things. Walk through and you're in the RLD.

[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=505636&wy=1140262&level=2&panoid=4044747&zoom=0&pan=99.93338876740103&tilt=14.037465980705177&poi=false&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&screenMode=normal[/url]

Anma Street at Seoulleong Station - Take exit 10. Make your first left and then your first right. (you can also go left) This street has at least 5 anmas on it. I've tried this one and had an enjoyable experience.

[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=511359&wy=1112930&level=3&panoid=4484380&zoom=0&pan=215.90959579846515&tilt=3.3422538049297903&poi=false&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&screenMode=normal[/url]

Comodo Anma near Seoul National University of Education - I really enjoy this place, it's very upscale and comforting. Directions are a bit difficult, as it's not right near the station. Exit 14 from Seoul National University of Education, walk for a while until you hit a big 4-way intersection. Go right, there is a Red Glasses store you will pass, followed by a Mr. Pizza on the 2nd floor of a building. Take your first left down a small street, then your first right. Walk for a while and you'll be there.

[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=502793&wy=1107700&level=2&panoid=4472635&zoom=0&pan=228.90009450162893&tilt=-14.705916741691166&poi=false&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&screenMode=normal[/url]

Cool - Exit 2 from Gangnam station, walk a long time until you hit the Prudential tower, go left. Look for Cool.

[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=507531&wy=1108570&level=2&panoid=4019034&zoom=1&pan=3.966413429853617&tilt=-0.5013380707395143&poi=false&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&screenMode=normal[/url]

Belle - Exit 2 from Gangnam station, walk a long time until you hit the Prudential tower, cross the road and go left. You will turn right up a small short road to find Belle.

[url]http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=507773&wy=1108611&level=2&panoid=4355512&zoom=1&pan=198.19062470533504&tilt=13.03478983922618&poi=false&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&screenMode=normal[/url]

These are all the places I know definitely. I hope users in the future can provide directions with daum maps, as it makes things so much simpler for me.

Hello,

New to the forum, visiting Seoul briefly so don't expect me to offer much more than this report. FYI I'm Korean American.

Made a visit to myeong ga earlier this Friday evening looking for this "elevator service" that everyone talks about. First of all, I think the directions need a little tweak.

From Yeoksam station, take exit number 8. Walk east along the north side of the street until you hit Renaissance hotel. Take a left once you see a family mart convenience store on your left hand side. (the "buy the way" has become a "family mart"). Take a left on the second alley way. Walk up hill one and a half blocks. You will see Myeong ga written in Korean on right hand side. The building has iron railings on the windows.

It was early in the day. Walked in. Mama-san took my order after I paid 180k, I asked for tall and sexy and that's what I got. I am upset that I huffed it all the way to this location specifically for the elevator service and it wasn't offered during my visit. It's the worst feeling when I saw the elevator open and I see a 22 yo guy standing there. Bummer.

I forget the girls name, but she was mid 20's, face was a 7, b-cups, tattoos, tall, nice round ass with wide hips, but slip at the waist, her hair was highlighted and wavy. She had a great attitude. We sat chitchatted for a minute. We got undressed, she gave me a shower. The room had mirrors everywhere which I like about Korean anma's.

Honestly I can pay for providers in the US and they have hot Korean providers where I live, but the service is alot better here.

Laid face down, she started oiling me up and doing the mouth massage all over. Honestly I have been to a few anma's but this girl gave the best rim job I have ever had. Teased my ass a bit, came up to kiss my back, then dove straight in while offering the reach around. Absolute heaven guys. I bang alot of girls for free, but rimming is something you usually have to pay for, and I tell you its worth every penny (honestly I don't want to have to kiss my gf after her tongue has been up my ass). She had me lay on my back while rimming all the while maintaining eye contact. Onto BBBJ, 69 with her on top, more rimming from 69 position. CG, mish, doggie, back to CG for the finish. Great eye contact, moaning and a tight squeeze with her arms and her pussy as we were winding down. She tried to kiss me once but I dodged. Think of where her mouth had just been.

She got up, showered right away, came back and we cuddled and talked a bit about nonsense. She is alot of fun. I hate to tell you guys this and not remember her name, but I tell you she was effing great.

Totally relaxed attitude, no rushing, alot of fun afterward. Asked for a shower she washed me off, god dressed, and I was off. No blind massage, but after I pop one off to a sexy little thing, the last thing I want is some fat blind guy touching me all over.

I think there are better anma's with better facilities than this one (the one directly across looks great. I'm leaving Sunday so I'm going to hit that one up tomorrow. I'll try to write a report if I get a chance.)

As for foreigner friendliness, not sure, didn't ask. I will wish you guys happy hunting. If only service was this great back home.

What exactly is the major malfunction of the pissante morons who read this forum and then tell providers about it?

I had dinner the other night with a fellow punter who passed along that he was confronted recently by a Hill provider who was told about the forum, now follows it along with a few others and thought she had figured out that he was me and was less than thrilled that she had only got what amounts to an honorable mention in a top 5 list I recently posted.

I'm seriously reconsidering contributing anything further or going into stealth mode.

[QUOTE=Dizzy21]

As for foreigner friendliness, not sure, didn't ask. I will wish you guys happy hunting. If only service was this great back home.[/QUOTE]

Sigh, sometimes I truly envy the Korean dudes who have easy access to unlimited resources. Which is fairly ironic, since Korean "friends" often complain to me that Western guys can easily get Korean girls (which is often far from the truth). Most Anmas I have frequented have turned me down flat or jacked up prices. Nothing like leaving violated after dropping extra cash, and service was lackluster. Only a few foreigner friendly establishments have I left satisified, and became repeat customers. However, like anything in Korea (or life for that matter) nothing lasts. The reg SP often moves on, and the hunt begins again. The sad truth is that most Anma SP's has been brainwashed to believe that foreigners are "unclean" or "not pure", which make it more likely to miss than hit.

Korean blood and language skills do have their advantages.

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]What exactly is the major malfunction of the pissante morons who read this forum and then tell providers about it?

I had dinner the other night with a fellow punter who passed along that he was confronted recently by a Hill provider who was told about the forum, now follows it along with a few others and thought she had figured out that he was me and was less than thrilled that she had only got what amounts to an honorable mention in a top 5 list I recently posted.

I'm seriously reconsidering contributing anything further or going into stealth mode.[/QUOTE]

I hear you brother. That is why I have been less than candid with some of my fav's on here. Last thing I want is someone ruining my game or overwhelming the establishment with clientelle and jacking up prices (and decreasing service quality), and spilling the beans of on-line discussions.

It will be a sad day if we lost KW on this site.

I don't know if anyone is familiar with Perb. Ca

It is similar to this site of forums but mostly for Canadian cities. It was my goto guide for any SP hookup. I'd highly recommend it if you are going to Canada. I kind of wished that ISG's South Korea section would be as active but I understand that there would be a lack of English posters.

The way I use websites like Perb and ISG is to weed out the really bad ones. Usually I find guys are little hesitate to release their "golden nuggets" to the masses but most of them would bend over backwards to tell you of a bad experience.

I think this would be more beneficial to the group so more people would try new places/girls rather than go to places with horrible service multiple times.

[QUOTE=Jack Rabbit]I hear you brother. That is why I have been less than candid with some of my fav's on here. Last thing I want is someone ruining my game or overwhelming the establishment with clientelle and jacking up prices (and decreasing service quality), and spilling the beans of on-line discussions.

It will be a sad day if we lost KW on this site.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]What exactly is the major malfunction of the pissante morons who read this forum and then tell providers about it?[/QUOTE]
Whoever it is/was, wow, totally not cool.

After lurking on this board for months, I finally took my first trip into the Korean p4p scene. I usually just wait for my regular trip to Thailand, but I couldn't wait that long so I decided to check the scene out.

First I went to Yongsan RLD, and I got a real looker in one of the back rows. She is 27 and has a ultra thin spinner body and looks like one of those girls you see in the kpop videos. I can't believe someone like this works in the back rows. I've already seen her twice. I got the long time with her. She throws in a little GFE with her service. I haven't tried kissing her yet though. Maybe I will next time.

I also decided to give the hill a try. I wanted to check out Happy Days after reading reviews here but it was closed all night. I would walk by periodically, and it was always closed. As I was walking, an older lady in her 30s from the bar next door grabbed me by the arm so tight I couldn't break free and dragged in her bar. Sorry can't remember the name. Fortunately for her, I have the Miss Robinson thing, and like older ladies more than young ones.

I'm ashamed to admit that after buying the lady drinks and the long time service, I paid more than I wanted to if I was thinking with my big head. I paid over 250K, and wish I would have stayed in Yongsan instead. But the service was totally great. I will say this happened on a Saturday night in Itaewon around 2AM. I sure that is when prices are the highest.

The best part though was that she was 100% GFE and PSE%, and everything was on the menu. Don't know about Greek though, didn't try it. But I did everything else with her. She gave me an awesome massage after I came. I didn't have enough energy for a second pop, but she said I could come as many times as possible. Before I left, she told me there are younger girls that work there she would introduce me to if I ever come back. She wasn't just trying to push herself only on me. She kept trying to DFK me as I left, but at that point, my head was clear and bummed out about how much money I spent.

So this is the question I have for you guys. I want to go back to the Hill again because of the amazing service I got there. If I go back on a weeknight, will the prices be cheaper? Or are they high every night of the week?

Oh, and Kimchi Warrior, don't go into to Stealth Mode. Your information is too valuable to guys like me. That guy that told the providers about this forum is a real fuckhead.

Hello everybody,
Within 3 days I need to go for one week Seoul for business.
I already read a little this forum but I urgently need some info from you guys.
I will stay in the Hilton, is there any massage with service in the hotel or in the neigbourhood?
I especially like massages!
Thanks for help and after my visit I will put my contribution to this wondefull forum!
Take care,

[QUOTE=Camieleke]Hello everybody,
Within 3 days I need to go for one week Seoul for business.
I already read a little this forum but I urgently need some info from you guys.
I will stay in the Hilton, is there any massage with service in the hotel or in the neigbourhood?
I especially like massages!
Thanks for help and after my visit I will put my contribution to this wondefull forum!
Take care,[/QUOTE]

Which Hilton? Grand Hilton or Millenium Hilton.
Millenium Hilton should be better, as it is just about 5-10 min by Taxi to Itaewon, your sefaty Belt for action.

regards

Brain666