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Hording pesos is one the dumbest things I've read here recently, especially leaving Colombia with pesos. You should withdraw pesos at ATM, buy dollars cash and repatriate cash home, all within limits and security precautions. XE rate now is 4,117 and you can buy USD at 3,480 pesos.
You are taking the incident too negatively. The stolen amount was about only $1 k. It is not a big deal. You lose much bigger amounts sometimes and gain bigger amounts sometimes as well. Plus, You don't know yet if you were lucky or unfortunate that the money was stolen. Same for the girls, we don't know yet if the stolen things would be a fortune or curse to her. Rather, you should analyze that why you didn't / haven't get injured, and you should take all precaution to ensure your safety and health. I believe that similar things happened to many mongers, but they are too embarrassed to report it.
[QUOTE=Kelso1;2435999]So you are saying because of the shutdown street girls are more dangerous. Really what has that to do with a bad apple? This girl is a real pro. No matter what the situation she is looking to score.
BTW I was wondering when someone would blame me for the incident. Well you are right it is my fault for being a dumb monger.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2436209]How many times have you seen reports telling people to avoid TLN with unknown girls?
So yes. If a seasoned veteran grabs a complete unknown for TLN and the session isn't what he expected, I'm going to say the seasoned veteran should have known better.[/QUOTE]I totally disagree. Or maybe this is some location-specific thing. Over my mongering career I have had way more all-nighters than short times. I started true mongering in Rio where everyone would get chicks from Help Disco and take them all night. Nobody took a chick from the disco for 1 or 2 hours. Hell, chances were she lived far away and it was already in the middle of the night. And who was about to pay for an expensive ass taxi?
Went on to Sosua and it was the same thing. Pick up a chick at night and she stays until you made her leave the next day. Went on to Thailand same thing. On to Philippines same. And countless other destinations.
Because I deal with mainly nonpros in Colombia who stay with me all night, I have only one time had a hooker stay with me all night. I reported on this in the Bogota thread in early February. It was a chick from Tinder that I had never seen in my life. Everything went great. I had bargained with her for 230,000 pesos (including however she was going to get back and forth) and we were together for 12 hours before I had to leave for the airport.
Compare that to some reports I have seen in the Bogota thread of guys paying as much as 400,000 for short time. And this chick said she actually works at one of those clip joints that charge that much. So I see it as I am ahead of the game 170,000 pesos and 10 hours.
When these all-nighters are done, the price I have always paid has not been far off from the price I may have paid doing a short time. In many cases it could be the same. So what am I really losing if I am paying a chick $5 or $10 more for all night instead of short time? I can always kick her out if there is something that I do not like. I have done well over 1,000 chicks all night worldwide without knowing them from Eve beforehand and can count on one hand the times that something went wrong.
In addition, I am a variety man. In most cases, if I have already had one session with a chick, I am not going to tell her to come another time for long time or even another short time. I am already on to the next chicks. So in my experience there is nothing wrong with having a long session with a chick before you have had a short one.
Mr international,
I have a question about being with 1000 girls. I'm over 100 myself and am wondering am I getting soft. I want to slow down and maybe have a steady girlfriend and leave mongering alone for awhile. Do you think I will always want to come back even if I'm happy with a girl. I'm pushing 50 now and am having a mongering mid life crisis. Anyone that's been doing this for 15 years or more like me understands what I mean. I need advice from some of the veterans. I still love 18 to 25 year old women but should I still be doing this in my 50's. I am starting to become attached to some of these women now. Where before I would move on after a night or a week with them. What's going on with me. Why am I changing. Has anyone else gone through this.
[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2436588]You are taking the incident too negatively. The stolen amount was about only $1 k. It is not a big deal. You lose much bigger amounts sometimes and gain bigger amounts sometimes as well. Plus, You don't know yet if you were lucky or unfortunate that the money was stolen. Same for the girls, we don't know yet if the stolen things would be a fortune or curse to her. Rather, you should analyze that why you didn't / haven't get injured, and you should take all precaution to ensure your safety and health. I believe that similar things happened to many mongers, but they are too embarrassed to report it.[/QUOTE]Another guy who doesn't really read my post but still makes wrong conclusions. If you read again the post I made you would see that I lost way more than a $1,000. As far as me taking the incident too negatively. Well I could have died from this powerful drug that was put on me. One more thing two days later I became so sick that I went to the hospital and was checked out OK but as of today I am still not 100% back to normal.
Guys do you think I liked admitting that I was played for a sucker? Really I only posted this incident that it may help someone in the future. I started my mongering with the intel I got mostly from ISG. This with my past trip reports is I how I give back.
I hope this ends my need to respond about my horrible incident.
[QUOTE=Questner;2436557]Hording pesos is one the dumbest things I've read here recently, especially leaving Colombia with pesos. You should withdraw pesos at ATM, buy dollars cash and repatriate cash home, all within limits and security precautions. XE rate now is 4,117 and you can buy USD at 3,480 pesos.[/QUOTE]Are you saying to buy pesos with USD at 4,117 and then sell them for 3,480 pesos for USD? You call me dumb?
Why would a person not want to bring pesos back home if he plans to return? Many advantages to do that. Number one is when you arrive in Colombia at the airport you don't have to wait in line for the few ATM's they have there. Then if you feel that the dollar would weaken to the pesos then you made a great move as the exchange rate is better for you. If the rate is even higher and you made a mistake then that was your call. Myself if I took home pesos at 4,000 and when I returned and it was more than that it it would cause me concern as I would buy even more to take home. My thoughts which really is just a speculation on my part is that the way the USA is printing money and all the bailouts they are talking about in the long run the USD will sink for sure.
Hey I have been a gambler all my life. Too late to change now.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2436209]
How many times have you seen reports telling people to avoid TLN with unknown girls? They're unknown. You know nothing about them. Your knowledge level on all the important performance issues is zero. You don't know if she's got a stinky pussy, or severe baby damage. You don't know if she's a starfish, or if she's going to be resistant to everything you want. You don't know. It has little to do with getting drugged and robbed. It's the risk that you're wasting money on something that won't meet your expectations.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2436612]I totally disagree. Or maybe this is some location-specific thing. Over my mongering career I have had way more all-nighters than short times. I started true mongering in Rio where everyone would get chicks from Help Disco and take them all night. Nobody took a chick from the disco for 1 or 2 hours. Hell, chances were she lived far away and it was already in the middle of the night. And who was about to pay for an expensive ass taxi?
[/QUOTE]Generally speaking I agree with JB, especially for new guys, non-spanish speakers, lots of valuables in the room, etc.
It just makes common sense.
Of course I've had all-nighters with unknown girls, I've being at this a long time in both Colombia and Brazil.
And I usually sleep with one eye open and I'm on way more alert, when I do this, LOL.
If you know a girl, she's treated you right, you've got chemistry, etc, it just makes common sense that a TLN with her would be good.
If you don't know a girl, it's all up in the air, and for me, I never sleep well, if at all.
Mr E makes some valid points, and he's an experienced guy, however, overall generally speaking, TLN with unknowns, IMO, is not a great idea.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2436612]I totally disagree. Or maybe this is some location-specific thing. Over my mongering career I have had way more all-nighters than short times. I started true mongering in Rio where everyone would get chicks from Help Disco and take them all night. Nobody took a chick from the disco for 1 or 2 hours. Hell, chances were she lived far away and it was already in the middle of the night. And who was about to pay for an expensive ass taxi?
Went on to Sosua and it was the same thing. Pick up a chick at night and she stays until you made her leave the next day. Went on to Thailand same thing. On to Philippines same. And countless other destinations.
Because I deal with mainly nonpros in Colombia who stay with me all night, I have only one time had a hooker stay with me all night. I reported on this in the Bogota thread in early February. It was a chick from Tinder that I had never seen in my life. Everything went great. I had bargained with her for 230,000 pesos (including however she was going to get back and forth) and we were together for 12 hours before I had to leave for the airport. .[/QUOTE]Now I know I don't need to tell you to RTFF. In your experience it's all good. Everywhere is safe, all girls are excellent performers, most don't even want money.
Unfortunately, not everyone experiences the same thing. There are a lot more reports about bad, first time TLNs than excellent, first time TLNs. You're also comparing 1,000 non-pros and 1 hooker to 1 Santa Fe street girl.
Give me your honest opinion. If you had instead picked up 1,000 girls off the streets of Santa Fe and had every one of them for TLN, what do you suppose your success rate would be?
Good advice, and of course it is monger 101 that valuable must be secured or within sight AT ALL TIMES. The classic mistake even experienced mongers make is to leave a wallet or watch out of sight whilst taking a quick piss or washing hands. Some girls get offended when you pick up your pants and take them with you to the bathroom but boo fucking hoo.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2436717]Generally speaking I agree with JB, especially for new guys, non-spanish speakers, lots of valuables in the room, etc.
It just makes common sense.
Of course I've had all-nighters with unknown girls, I've being at this a long time in both Colombia and Brazil.
And I usually sleep with one eye open and I'm on way more alert, when I do this, LOL.
If you know a girl, she's treated you right, you've got chemistry, etc, it just makes common sense that a TLN with her would be good.
If you don't know a girl, it's all up in the air, and for me, I never sleep well, if at all.
Mr E makes some valid points, and he's an experienced guy, however, overall generally speaking, TLN with unknowns, IMO, is not a great idea.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2436660]Mr international,
I have a question about being with 1000 girls. I'm over 100 myself and am wondering am I getting soft. I want to slow down and maybe have a steady girlfriend and leave mongering alone for awhile. Do you think I will always want to come back even if I'm happy with a girl. I'm pushing 50 now and am having a mongering mid life crisis. Anyone that's been doing this for 15 years or more like me understands what I mean. I need advice from some of the veterans. I still love 18 to 25 year old women but should I still be doing this in my 50's. I am starting to become attached to some of these women now. Where before I would move on after a night or a week with them. What's going on with me. Why am I changing. Has anyone else gone through this.[/QUOTE]Nobody can tell you anything. You have to know yourself in order to make calls on what is good for your life. I will be 48 next month. Shit Kelso is in his 70's. I am not as much of a monger as I am a player. I don't get into sports, drinking, gambling. I am just addicted to women. It runs deep in my blood to at least my great-grandfather (and he was a preacher) on my dad's side and my grandfather on my mother's side.
When I am new to a place I will check out the mongering, then when I get my bearings I am messing with more non-pros. From then on if I have some free time and am not being lazy then I may mix in some pros. For me it is more of an attention thing than a sex thing. I will invite chicks over and let them in and I go right to sleep. If I wake up in the morning and feel like fucking them then so be it.
My daughter is grown and I don't have any bills. All my money goes to traveling, guns, women, and retirement. I needed a new hobby so I just started this private pilot course. I am just living how I want to live and doing what I want to do. The only rule in life is to treat others how you want to be treated. Other than that, have fun. Do what you enjoy doing and what makes you happy.
I have plenty of steady girlfirends, but they all know that they are not the only one that I am with. For some strange reason, several times in my life I have ended up being involved at the same time with chicks who were friends or knew each other. The shit wasn't on purpose, just so turned out they knew each other. And you know what. One never cared that I was fucking the other and in every time they both knew about it. Sometimes I have to shake my damn head when I think about my crazy life.
Even last night I met a chick on some casual platonic stuff. Or at least that was my only intention. Ended up coming to my place and the chick wanted to fuck. I can not run away from pussy. I took her back to where she was staying and the friend she was staying with just so happened to be a chick that I met last year and was over to the same condo. I never fucked the chick whose condo it was. I only sat and talked with her back then. She was not my type.
If I am dead and gone tomorrow then nobody will feel sorry for me. They know I came to this mf and had a good ass time and did it how I wanted to do it. Like Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis said, I did it my way. You are the only one that can figure out what your way is; and do it just like that. Trust me I did not choose this lifestyle; it chose me.
[QUOTE=Kelso1;2436690]Another guy who doesn't really read my post but still makes wrong conclusions. If you read again the post I made you would see that I lost way more than a $1,000. As far as me taking the incident too negatively. Well I could have died from this powerful drug that was put on me. One more thing two days later I became so sick that I went to the hospital and was checked out OK but as of today I am still not 100% back to normal.
Guys do you think I liked admitting that I was played for a sucker? Really I only posted this incident that it may help someone in the future. I started my mongering with the intel I got mostly from ISG. This with my past trip reports is I how I give back.
I hope this ends my need to respond about my horrible incident.[/QUOTE]It did take a lot of courage to write about it. Most people don't. At first I believed such things were rare. Some cases I believed were excuses to explain to the wife why a guy spent $3000 in 2 days. Then people started telling me it had happened to them. Now I realize most won't report it.
I know my first reply came out as blaming you. I'm very self-critical. Part of my military training. If something goes wrong, how did I contribute? What mistakes did I make? How can I avoid this in the future? How do I need to modify my behavior?
Did you make mistakes? Probably. We all do. Worst thing for you, other than the obvious health risk, was the timing.
I am getting a vasectomy in a month or 2. You can buy instant HIV tests on amazon for 30 each, so I can test the girls for that. Unfortunately there are other things you can catch that there is no instant test for. Do you go bareback with these girls since you can test them on the spot. I'm looking forward to sex without condoms but know there are huge risks doing it with hookers. What's everyone's experience on bareback. I have never bare backed any of these girls. If I want to go this rout should I stick to SA or tinder or strictly non pros which are a headache.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2436792]I am getting a vasectomy in a month or 2. You can buy instant HIV tests on amazon for 30 each, so I can test the girls for that. Unfortunately there are other things you can catch that there is no instant test for. Do you go bareback with these girls since you can test them on the spot. I'm looking forward to sex without condoms but know there are huge risks doing it with hookers. What's everyone's experience on bareback. I have never bare backed any of these girls. If I want to go this rout should I stick to SA or tinder or strictly non pros which are a headache.[/QUOTE]Almost four years of mostly bareback. No kids (that I know of) and no STDs. I only do freelancers will not go bareback in a brothel.
Yippie, what is your definition of a freelancer. That's vague.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2436660]Mr international,
I have a question about being with 1000 girls. I'm over 100 myself and am wondering am I getting soft. I want to slow down and maybe have a steady girlfriend and leave mongering alone for awhile. Do you think I will always want to come back even if I'm happy with a girl. I'm pushing 50 now and am having a mongering mid life crisis. Anyone that's been doing this for 15 years or more like me understands what I mean. I need advice from some of the veterans. I still love 18 to 25 year old women but should I still be doing this in my 50's. I am starting to become attached to some of these women now. Where before I would move on after a night or a week with them. What's going on with me. Why am I changing. Has anyone else gone through this.[/QUOTE]I'm young but started early. I think I've been what you are going through.
When I was younger and this hit me, I'd get back into shape, get some new stylish clothing and monger for girls that are really into me. I'd grab some women I haven't been with. The passion some of those women had got me going quick.
Now I usually end up hitting a new city / country and everything just resets for me. I still think fondly of some of the girls I've been with but the newness of another country with a whole new set of girls and culture (even if some parts aren't as good) reinvigorates my hunger. Also finding girls with new fetishes helps me too. Trying women that you usually don't go for has been pleasantly surprising.
You can also lean into it. Ask the women you are getting attached to, to set you up on dates with their friends. I have a couple girls like that. It's pretty fun.
One time, I spent a lot of time out of the bedroom with one of these girls and started getting attached. Best to keep things to the bedroom. Make friends with mongers to do the outside stuff. If you have questions about the girl, I'll save you some time. She's manipulating you to try and get more out of you. Most of the stuff she says are lies and yeah whatever you are trying to accomplish BBFS, etc can be accomplished easier with money and without her manipulating you. Even if you don't waste money, you are wasting time.
Anyway, like I said, I'm pretty young mid to late 30's still. I might not know what I'm talking about so feel free to ignore me if it doesn't help. I think I've been with over 1000 girls (definitely over 100) but that includes super waste of money harem like situations at cheap locations.