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[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2839724]What's the best way to travel around? 3 KM is a bit far to walk.[/QUOTE]I tend to stay at a hotel near a BTS or MRT station. BTS is easier for beginners becaue you can see it from a distance and it takes you to all the lower sukhumvit sights (e.g., Nana, Cowboy, Soi 24, etc.).
Taxi is cheaper than in western country.
Tuktuk is usually less expensive than taxi and they zig-zag through traffic for a faster journey.
[QUOTE=Mongoose312;2839074]I've been in the Sukhumvit area for a few weeks now and aside from mongering my primary hobby has been people watching.
In places like Terminal 21 and Benchakitti park one sees several Thai female, Frarang male couples. In Pattaya I would immediately assume that the relationship represents a sex tourist and sex worker on an ST / LT or week long procurement but here I wonder how many of these situations are more conventional non or semi-transactional arrangements?
Many of the Thai women are stunning but sometimes a somewhat plain girl will appear on the arm of a man who would clearly shoot higher if he was spending.
Many farangs here are young, good looking long term expats and it's hard to see them choosing sex workers when they probably could get a civilian.
What do experienced Bangkok board members think of this? What is the breakdown of these parings as far as paid relationships or less transactional romances? 50/50 ? 40/60 ?
The sheer number of couples makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong as all I seem to be able to get is the transactional ST / LT which is unfulfilling to me. I don't really feel like a stud walking around with a girl on my arm who I'm paying for and I feel like there must be some secret sauce that some of these guys are using when I observe the real, genuine chemistry they have with their beautiful dates. I know the point of this site is P4 P but does anyone here have experience in Bangkok with civilians or semi-civilians (if there is such a thing)?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have been in this forum for sometime but I have not posted a report thus far. Well, this post somehow connected with my latest experience (s), maybe you might have seen me in Terminal 21. LOL. Firstly, I have no Farang looks, average south east asian brown skinned guy from the SF Bay Area, The Silicon Valley as many people call it or know. My work makes me travel to Asia and Europe, while in Asia I try and keep aside a couple of days or more for personal use (in BKK). I have been doing this since 2010 . I almost always stay at the Hyatt Erawan or The Intercontinental and my only place (s) to venture out were the Spasso's bar (for those of you who know it) and the Mixx bar. Outside of that I had a +66 contact who sent me an exclusive WhatsApp menu of just arrived Eastern European ladies. So my 2-4 days BKK trip was alway pretty well packed.
After COVID, I heard Spasso's closed its 'The after 10 pm gig', so I started looking for similar options elsewhere. Unfortunately, I did not find a similar place anywhere in any of the 5 Star Hotels in BKK. I am all ears if I should know something.
I personally don't enjoy the GoGo bars or any of the Soi 11 bars, I seem of enjoy a bit of exclusivity in this area, so my hunt usually revolves around it. I learned last year that Tinder is a place to find potentially exclusive local girls. I spend some time on it and I ended up scheduling few girls. Most of them quoted me 10 k baht to spend the night / day with me. I met a girl 24 years old in July last year, she had a great professional job, very well educated with great English language skills, sounded pretty exclusive to me. She said she doesn't do this but would meet with me to give it a try, I took that with a grain of salt off course. All said and done, I have to admit, I probably had the best sex with her relative to anything I had before. She ended up staying with me the entire 2-3 days I was there. I offered her some 35 k baht, I can't remember. I wasn't carrying cash, so I asked her if I could PayPal her, she suggested I could use Wise.
I saw her again in few weeks while I flying back. We wandered around Terminal 21, various Sois there and also Thong Lor. After that, I came home and been in contact with her ever since on Line. We decided that we should spend more time in BKK together, so we did. I ended up going to BKK for few weeks. As far as the money part, I don't even know how much I have paid so far, may be several hundred of thousands of baht, but I don't really care much because I am looking at this relative to what it would cost me in EU or elsewhere to monger, roughly 2-3 k USD for 18 hours with an escorts, so this is much better deal for me, I am not a FKK frequenter BTW but would rather use escort services like - [URL]https://www.aphrodite-agency.com/en[/URL] in EU. I had / have a good time for sure in BKK and I am still in touch and enjoy the remote GF experience!
[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2839724]Howdy all.
Got a few questions. I've skimmed the last 5 pages and have been keeping up for a bit longer, but I have a few questions that I haven't been able to find an answer for.
Planning a second trip to Pattaya this winter and I want to spend a few days in BKK. I want to go to the massage shops that offer nuru (soapies in Pattaya are meh).
I don't want to spend my whole time in BKK, just a few days, either at the beginning or end of my trip (just depends on when my inbound and outbound flights are tbh).
Here are a couple of places I've bookmarked. Not much, and honestly not entirely sure if I want to go if it means I need to entirely re-learn the lay of the land.
[URL]https://i.imgur.com/cULuPZG.png[/URL]
What's the best way to travel around? 3 KM is a bit far to walk. Are there baht buses or the equivalent here? Is Bangkok as walkable as Central Pattaya? What's there to know about visiting and getting around Bangkok specifically that isn't also applicable to Pattaya?
Much obliged.[/QUOTE]There are no baht buses and you will need to entirely re-learn the lay of the land, so unless you have time to that, I'd probably just stay at the place I know already if sex is my main reason for coming.
It took me some weeks to figure out how to move around here. Yes, taxis are cheap, and distances are not great on the map, but do it wrong and you can spend two hours in a taxi and barely move 5 km.
Just getting a taxi from the wrong side of the road can easily add half an hour to your 45 minute trip.
You need to know how to combine the train system with taxis and motorbike taxis. I'm a motorbikerider myself, but I do not at all enjoy using motorbike taxis here, though they are an unfortunate necessity.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;2836500]Well, I am looking at beautiful high end indies / chicks that are not getting banged or barfined 3-4 times a day. Thats a No for me. Looking for beautiful bodies and faces and younger tight lips if you know what I mean. If you have anything to add please do.[/QUOTE]Maria's had the best looking girls in my experience. Costs significantly more tho. Ranges from.
$200-600.
So we took a peek in Soi Cowboy since it opens earlier than Billboard say. Wasn't terribly impressed. We prob went in 5-6 places and all girls fully bikinis. Exception was Crazy House which is around the corner to the right at the end. Def worth a visit. Naked pussy on stage and girls are pretty enough. Really nice place to hang. Recommend.
Back at Nana steer clear of Red Dragon. Lots of hot girls but when you agree to laddies drink they bring TWO at 220 each. So you are at 440 Baht without blinking an eye. Didn't like that business practice so we left. But def pretty girls. No issue there.
Billboard just totally rules. Packed with girls and customers and adore the rotating stage. They wore black tonight so the camel toe was not the same. Boo. But still a great time.
Ended up going back to butterflies and staying for a while before grabbing our two same girls from last night and headed out. Rather than just go fuck went to 7-11 and got beer and then ordered some room service and danced and partied in my friends suite. Eventually took my girl to the bedroom and smashed. Really fun time. Def recommend Butterflies and Billboard. One of my new fave destinations worldwide. Right up there with Scandallo in São Paulo for tons of doable pussy in a fun atmosphere.
[QUOTE=MachchiBaba;2839754]I have been in this forum for sometime but I have not posted a report thus far. Well, this post somehow connected with my latest experience (s), maybe you might have seen me in Terminal 21. LOL. Firstly, I have no Farang looks, average south east asian brown skinned guy from the SF Bay Area, The Silicon Valley as many people call it or know. My work makes me travel to Asia and Europe, while in Asia I try and keep aside a couple of days or more for personal use (in BKK). I have been doing this since 2010 . I almost always stay at the Hyatt Erawan or The Intercontinental and my only place (s) to venture out were the Spasso's bar (for those of you who know it) and the Mixx bar. Outside of that I had a +66 contact who sent me an exclusive WhatsApp menu of just arrived Eastern European ladies. So my 2-4 days BKK trip was alway pretty well packed.
After COVID, I heard Spasso's closed its 'The after 10 pm gig', so I started looking for similar options elsewhere. Unfortunately, I did not find a similar place anywhere in any of the 5 Star Hotels in BKK. I am all ears if I should know something.
I personally don't enjoy the GoGo bars or any of the Soi 11 bars, I seem of enjoy a bit of exclusivity in this area, so my hunt usually revolves around it. I learned last year that Tinder is a place to find potentially exclusive local girls. I spend some time on it and I ended up scheduling few girls. Most of them quoted me 10 k baht to spend the night / day with me. I met a girl 24 years old in July last year, she had a great professional job, very well educated with great English language skills, sounded pretty exclusive to me. She said she doesn't do this but would meet with me to give it a try, I took that with a grain of salt off course. All said and done, I have to admit, I probably had the best sex with her relative to anything I had before. She ended up staying with me the entire 2-3 days I was there. I offered her some 35 k baht, I can't remember. I wasn't carrying cash, so I asked her if I could PayPal her, she suggested I could use Wise.
I saw her again in few weeks while I flying back. We wandered around Terminal 21, various Sois there and also Thong Lor. After that, I came home and been in contact with her ever since on Line. We decided that we should spend more time in BKK together, so we did. I ended up going to BKK for few weeks. As far as the money part, I don't even know how much I have paid so far, may be several hundred of thousands of baht, but I don't really care much because I am looking at this relative to what it would cost me in EU or elsewhere to monger, roughly 2-3 k USD for 18 hours with an escorts, so this is much better deal for me, I am not a FKK frequenter BTW but would rather use escort services like - [URL]https://www.aphrodite-agency.com/en[/URL] in EU. I had / have a good time for sure in BKK and I am still in touch and enjoy the remote GF experience![/QUOTE]Are you Indian?
About this great professional job she has. Did you Verify? Odd she can just take off when she wants. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=TConor;2839738]You don't want to spend a little on a taxi. They are cheap in BKK compared to most of the world. If time were not limited get a BTS card and use it.[/QUOTE]Its 3. 4 km approx from Soi Cowboy down to Thermae, then down to 7/1, then across to Nana, then down Soi Nana and over to Soi 8 through the passage and back across the street to Soi 11.
If you take Cowboy out, and start at Thermae you save about a klick. Plenty of goodies in that area, take a walkaround and stop here and there. I'm 67 and do it regularly.
Thanks for the replies. I do not intend to stay very long in BKK, but I think I'll pass. I know Pattaya much better, so I'll get enough tail there. Nunu can wait for another time.
Cheers.
Yes, avoid Red Dragon as they are famous for clipping customers. Stickman has noted this as well. Need to go to Crazy House sometimes. Always forget as it's not directly on Soi Cowboy. I have had fun at the live music venue at corner of the Soi called Kozy Kazy or something similar. They have BMD girls there but think some are take out and many are fun to hang with. Billboard is the best as you note in NEP.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2839784]So we took a peek in Soi Cowboy since it opens earlier than Billboard say. Wasn't terribly impressed. We prob went in 5-6 places and all girls fully bikinis. Exception was Crazy House which is around the corner to the right at the end. Def worth a visit. Naked pussy on stage and girls are pretty enough. Really nice place to hang. Recommend.
Back at Nana steer clear of Red Dragon. Lots of hot girls but when you agree to laddies drink they bring TWO at 220 each. So you are at 440 Baht without blinking an eye. Didn't like that business practice so we left. But def pretty girls. No issue there.
Billboard just totally rules. Packed with girls and customers and adore the rotating stage. They wore black tonight so the camel toe was not the same. Boo. But still a great time.
Ended up going back to butterflies and staying for a while before grabbing our two same girls from last night and headed out. Rather than just go fuck went to 7-11 and got beer and then ordered some room service and danced and partied in my friends suite. Eventually took my girl to the bedroom and smashed. Really fun time. Def recommend Butterflies and Billboard. One of my new fave destinations worldwide. Right up there with Scandallo in So Paulo for tons of doable pussy in a fun atmosphere.[/QUOTE]
So it's not all rainbows and unicorns every night I suppose. Took a cute petite hottie from Billboards but a total bust. She was just not into me and when it feels OFF then I am off. She was on TikTok the entire walk to the hotel. Then we argue CBJ and she won't budge. Tries to condom my limp dick. Just a total disaster. Just wanted her gone. Out 4700 baht. Boo. I guess every rose has its thorns.
Went to Kasalong to rub one out because it's like two blocks away. Yikes. That's divey and run down. 40's lady took me straight up w no choice of girls. And wow it's def not nice facilities at all. Feels dirty and cheap. Managed to give a credible BJ and I shot in her mouth after a few minutes. But def no comparison to 7-Heaven.
Def an off night for me but at least got a shot off!
Piece of advice: 1300 at 7 Heaven is def worth it vs 800 at Kasalong. No comparison in girls and facilities. Like not even same universe.
Fortunately I’m flying a legit 9.5 model (who i was with via Seeking Arrangements in Madrid) to Majorca for three days starting tomorrow. Not even a sex fail and Kasalong can dampen my boner!
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2839995]So it's not all rainbows and unicorns every night I suppose. Took a cute petite hottie from Billboards but a total bust. She was just not into me and when it feels OFF then I am off. She was on TikTok the entire walk to the hotel. Then we argue CBJ and she won't budge. Tries to condom my limp dick. Just a total disaster. Just wanted her gone. Out 4700 baht. Boo. I guess every rose has its thorns.
Went to Kasalong to rub one out because it's like two blocks away. Yikes. That's divey and run down. 40's lady took me straight up w no choice of girls. And wow it's def not nice facilities at all. Feels dirty and cheap. Managed to give a credible BJ and I shot in her mouth after a few minutes. But def no comparison to 7-Heaven.
Def an off night for me but at least got a shot off!
Piece of advice: 1300 at 7 Heaven is def worth it vs 800 at Kasalong. No comparison in girls and facilities. Like not even same universe.
Fortunately Im flying a legit 9.5 model (who i was with via Seeking Arrangements in Madrid) to Majorca for three days starting tomorrow. Not even a sex fail and Kasalong can dampen my boner![/QUOTE]Once she refused to do BBBJ, you should have told her to get dressed, and marched her right back to the bar and asked or your bar fine back. I'm sorry but paying what was agreed to for terrible service does nothing but allow these girls to continue poor service and bad behavior. If you would have returned to the bar with her the mamasan would not have been happy with her.
It's quite obvious these are owned by the same guy or a copycat because they are nearly carbon copies of each other. However I do have a belated observation.
I noticed a lot more fake tits at Billboard. The girls at Butterflies seemed more natural and I pointed this out to my buddy who agreed. Then having taken two girls from each place, our Butterfly girls were 21 and 24. And our Billboard girls were 32 and 36 (but looked great). Of course th older age would correlate with fake boobs to keep a younger look.
Certainly not factual but that is our observation of the two. Younger and less experienced at butterflies (a plus for me) and perhaps a slightly older more pro crowd at Billboard. I wonder if others have similar observations?
P.S. As a club Billboard is a bit more crowded and lively tho both are good.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2839995]So it's not all rainbows and unicorns every night I suppose. Took a cute petite hottie from Billboards but a total bust. She was just not into me and when it feels OFF then I am off. She was on TikTok the entire walk to the hotel. Then we argue CBJ and she won't budge. Tries to condom my limp dick. Just a total disaster. Just wanted her gone. Out 4700 baht. [/QUOTE]Why are you paying 4700 baht at Billboard? That's 1,000 over the going rate. I hope you're not getting the price from one of the mamasans instead of the girl.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2840011]Why are you paying 4700 baht at Billboard? That's 1,000 over the going rate. I hope you're not getting the price from one of the mamasans instead of the girl.[/QUOTE]He is including the barfine of 700 in the cost plus 4000 for the girl. Some girls are asking that for ST now at Billboard.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2840011]Why are you paying 4700 baht at Billboard? That's 1,000 over the going rate. I hope you're not getting the price from one of the mamasans instead of the girl.[/QUOTE]I am sure I am paying some gringo tax but it doesn't worry me much. Billboard and Butterflies were both 4000 to girl and 700 bar fine. They gave the 4 K to the girl in the club in front of you but they probably have to rebate out if that. Bunny was 3000 and 1000.
Are you saying you personally have taken from Billboard and Butterflies recently at 3000 for the girl? Yes I spoke w Mamasan as I thought was the way here. My buddy is from Asia and that is standard. I am sure the group would benefit if you are saying that is wrong thing.
Happy regardless with my first two pulls.