Sosua Reports

What all the expat monger business owners don't want to ay is that basically what's happening is massive land reform before a play to turn it into Punta Cana North.

The likelyhood of this happening is slight as far as a total transformation. But the area is getting a rebrand and Politicians and their friends are gobbling up land to sell it to anyone willing to put a hotel in an around the strip So that means the most ratchet Sosua Street rats, drug dealers. and soft shoe papi chulo Pimps had to go. The upside is the theives and pickpockets, are going too. As well as the street hustlers and beggars too.

But so too a bunch of Su York types riding ATV's and smoking weed on the beach have to go too.

My prediction is in five years we got another Boca Chica on our hands some decent Hotels less tourists the hoes on some side street and everything low key.

The Youtube creep cammers have already decomped to Cartagena where they already had their crackdown and things are more under manners and the girls are more discreet.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

My guy said all he saw was a few local girls but the bars were almost empty. Many jobs have been lost. Police are still profiling.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3016753]My brother and cousins are there now. No talk of women in the group chat. Only talk about going to the gym, being hungry, riding ATVs, and a video of them on a boat with no women (except for 1 cousin's wife.).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;3016914]My guy said all he saw was a few local girls but the bars were almost empty. Many jobs have been lost. Police are still profiling.[/QUOTE]My brother claims it is not as bad as the internet is making it seem. These are the only girls posted in the group chat so far though.

I think Punta Cana will fill the void for a while. Most of Sosua best talent came on weekends from all over the island. The clubs in Punta Cana can provide the girls access to willing tourists. There has always been low key action there. It would be very hard to crack down on girls going to a clubs. Inspite of what Mr E thinks. These girls do not have many good options. Punta Cana is a lot closer to Santo Domingo. The Santiago girls are more classy and I think would like the Punta Cana vibe. There a club Infinity Blue that has Classico vibes. Going to Sosua had a stigma that Punta Cana does not have. The infrastructure is perfect for the weekend hustlers.

Will passport bros blow it up? You bet they will. The young guys have no clue how to keep a low profile. Flights and hotels are very reasonable. Once the girls figure out that there is money there Katy bar the door. Punta Cana is a lot bigger then Sosua so it could adsorb the week end warriors without to much fuss. I am going this week to hook up with one of my favs.

[QUOTE=OldKool;3017490]I think Punta Cana will fill the void for a while. Most of Sosua best talent came on weekends from all over the island. The clubs in Punta Cana can provide the girls access to willing tourists. There has always been low key action there. It would be very hard to crack down on girls going to a clubs. Inspite of what Mr E thinks. These girls do not have many good options. Punta Cana is a lot closer to Santo Domingo. The Santiago girls are more classy and I think would like the Punta Cana vibe. There a club Infinity Blue that has Classico vibes. Going to Sosua had a stigma that Punta Cana does not have. The infrastructure is perfect for the weekend hustlers.

Will passport bros blow it up? You bet they will. The young guys have no clue how to keep a low profile. Flights and hotels are very reasonable. Once the girls figure out that there is money there Katy bar the door. Punta Cana is a lot bigger then Sosua so it could adsorb the week end warriors without to much fuss. I am going this week to hook up with one of my favs.[/QUOTE]No doubt that PC will get clout from the closing of the Sue strip.

That being said there will not be another Sosua as we know it for quite a while. The scene will spread out as dudes discover the apps they'll find that most of the women they meet will be in Puerta Plata city /.

Sue vets and Sue sexpats already know about The Puerta Plata Malecons on Sundays. Some guys will discover Boca Chica and the deported Haitians stopping there first to get their money up to go back to wherever they used to live.

But for the average weekend warror they'll hit SD and call it a day. No way could they shut down El Conde or the SD Malecon in the same way you already have the mixed tourism and the girls are generally low key.

For guys that like to window shop and pick fresh mangos right off the street hanging out at the Cigar Bar in Parque Colon and Parque Cervantes at the Malecon can't be beat.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

The post below makes my point that the clean up is NOT about prostitution is about BIG MONEY. BIG MONEY does not like what they see. They got in the ears of important DRGOV officials and everyone sees the result. [B]Has there been any change in the law that covers this?[/B]. If not, it becomes very apparent that it's about appearances. Those without myopic views focused only on their dick could see due to the geographical location in the Dominican Republic that development was coming to Sousa. It is a natural resource that the DRGOV is reclaiming for the people of the Dominican Republic.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3017503]No doubt that PC will get clout from the closing of the Sue strip.

That being said there will not be another Sosua as we know it for quite a while. The scene will spread out as dudes discover the apps they'll find that most of the women they meet will be in Puerta Plata city /.

Sue vets and Sue sexpats already know about The Puerta Plata Malecons on Sundays. Some guys will discover Boca Chica and the deported Haitians stopping there first to get their money up to go back to wherever they used to live.

But for the average weekend warror they'll hit SD and call it a day. No way could they shut down El Conde or the SD Malecon in the same way you already have the mixed tourism and the girls are generally low key.

For guys that like to window shop and pick fresh mangos right off the street hanging out at the Cigar Bar in Parque Colon and Parque Cervantes at the Malecon can't be beat.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.[/QUOTE]

Puerta Plata will be hosting 25 cruise ships this August. That's a large amount.

Its going to be interesting to see what takes place there.

I just got back from five days over the weekend, which I had booked long before the latest changes. I managed to pull from the bars or street each night but Sunday. I'm pretty picky and like them thin, I didn't have to lower my standards. I paid 3,000 pesos, 3000,4000, and 5000 (twice). (that's from $50 to $85 US). Prices generally corresponded with the level of service -- first time I've been rimmed in Sosua! I also broke a personal rule not to pay until afterwards with the two more expensive ones. They worked out fine -- no rush. Still.

I didn't see any girls cruising the beach. I propositioned my 19 year-old cute waitress. "What are you calling me, a working girl?" Oops! I had to backpedal fast. She settled down and said she often gets that from tourists. I guess so.

I really miss the party scene. There were only ten guys in Kings on Saturday and five girls. I used to love to dance at el Central and buy girls drinks. There would be dozens, everyone having a great time. There are other cities with lots of girls -- Medellin and Jaco come to mind -- but the raw energy of the Sosua's scene was unique in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Phreeman69;3017612]I propositioned my 19 year-old cute waitress. "What are you calling me, a working girl?" Oops! I had to backpedal fast. She settled down and said she often gets that from tourists. I guess so.[/QUOTE]Looks like she forgot about the gray area!

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;3017511]The post below makes my point that the clean up is NOT about prostitution is about BIG MONEY. BIG MONEY does not like what they see. They got in the ears of important DRGOV officials and everyone sees the result. [B]Has there been any change in the law that covers this?[/B]. If not, it becomes very apparent that it's about appearances. Those without myopic views focused only on their dick could see due to the geographical location in the Dominican Republic that development was coming to Sousa. It is a natural resource that the DRGOV is reclaiming for the people of the Dominican Republic.[/QUOTE]Any Hardcore Su fan should be celebrating. You'll get better hotel options and better food options other than american fast food Wing and Pizza shops. The theives and pickpockets will lessen maybe the trannies will be run out of town too again complete win win situation.

Hiring a Prostitute is still legal and there's a boots on ground post where a monger had success. The only people who lose is the extreme obnoxiously loud dudes who thought they could do anything they wanted and acted like it was spring break for 40 year olds No riding ATV's the wrong way up the street at top speed and no creep cammers.

To me as a visitor not an expat it seems like paradise.

Traditonal window shoppers might not like it but there's the Clock Tower in Cartagena and Beach Road in Thailand if you need to see things.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3017644]Looks like she forgot about the gray area![/QUOTE]I see we got jokes jajajaja. I bet you if he wouldve change his wording to, naw baby this is just to help you towards next month rent if you come have some fun with me this evening and up his proposition in the monetary department, best believe that grey area would be in full effect.

I'm just wondering if anyone is brave enough to still go to Sosua. People always tried to lie and say chicas is secondary to them visiting. What made them continue to visit was the brotherhood that they have a team of repeats so they don't care that all the chicks on the strip are trash or in this case gone. It will be interesting to see where those Sosua mongers go. Will most simply go to Colombia or will they go to say Pattaya that place get a lot of social media attention and when I lived there I saw a bunch of ex Sosua guys.

[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;3018485]I'm just wondering if anyone is brave enough to still go to Sosua. People always tried to lie and say chicas is secondary to them visiting. What made them continue to visit was the brotherhood that they have a team of repeats so they don't care that all the chicks on the strip are trash or in this case gone. It will be interesting to see where those Sosua mongers go. Will most simply go to Colombia or will they go to say Pattaya that place get a lot of social media attention and when I lived there I saw a bunch of ex Sosua guys.[/QUOTE]Sosua is where it is one of the easiest places in the world to establish meaningful connections with many guys from the US or around the world. The thing is, many guys that say they still go to Sosua for the brotherhood, they are usually already traveling to other places around the world. But they will still come back to connect with friends, and connect with established regulars.

These are the guys that don't need the streetwalkers like most of those other guys that visit infrequently, who feel Sosua is their only salvation. A lot of those complaining, they may not be able to travel further than the DR. Why? Because they have connections where they live that forbids it. So they depend on the shortest trip they can make.

Listen, back during the pandemic, guys that live in the DR, we had each other for company, and we all had regulars. None of us felt that Sosua was over because of curfews, and / or the lack of streetwalkers in town. Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.

I've lived in the DR for a while now. Enough women walking around in Sosua are attractive, but many are uninspiring for me to hire. Too many negatives to list. And that is what infrequent visitors have to sort through when they come to Sosua, especially those with no established regulars.

[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;3018485]I'm just wondering if anyone is brave enough to still go to Sosua. People always tried to lie and say chicas is secondary to them visiting. What made them continue to visit was the brotherhood that they have a team of repeats so they don't care that all the chicks on the strip are trash or in this case gone. It will be interesting to see where those Sosua mongers go. Will most simply go to Colombia or will they go to say Pattaya that place get a lot of social media attention and when I lived there I saw a bunch of ex Sosua guys.[/QUOTE]Think about it Sosua is a one horse third world backwater beach town. Are the beaches nice? Yes but so are the beaches in Boca and Las Terranas.

The draw was always the one stop shop of some of the baddest chicas in the DR (at one time) Once the big clubs closed, then the quality dropped and the prices rose most dudes were out. I lived in the DR and I only went when dragged there. Most of the girls where from Santo Domingo and I lived in SD at the time.

Very few girls where from Sosua a few was from Puerta Plata but most were from Santiago and SD where the bulk of Dominicans live.

Could you import? Yes but imagine the expense of having them come to the Sosua Inn now.

Personally I think most of the sexpats will leave too.

That being said there's a chance that this might pass. The Su is one of the most well reported places on earth There's reports on Youtube that girls ventured out in the daytime Saturday / But why would a guy travel hundreds or thousands of miles away to go to a random beach town just to use Tinder and hope that the chick on Domincan time isn't a catfish and she has complete leverage over the prices. She could leave after ten minutes or charge a fortune for toda la noche /.

Unless your the hardest of the hardcore Su vet why go? Even Sosua defender Old Kool decamped for Punta Cana recently.

As for where guys will go Su vets will hundreds of numbers in their phones will just go where the bulk of their favorite chicas are But for the traditional weekend warrior they will defenitely go to Cartagena which is better because because of the crime and Police being a big city they won't let the town get completely out of control with guys riding ATV while drunk at top speed on the streets dealing with UAs (not by choice but dealing with girls on the streets and not vetting them) Smoking weed in public and getting too rowdy which will trigger a Sosua like crackdown /.

Carty already had several crackdowns where girls where made to act right and certain clubs where closed or moved.

Frankly just by the way Carty chica dress you get pre 2012 Sosua without the multiple brothel clubs on one street.

I don't think that Sosua will never not be a mongering destination for the guys willing to risk empty streets and import but the days of anything going and 30 creep cammers fliming every inch ofSosua is dead and that is for the best. Dudes will spread their vacations to other places and the happy medium of lower key mongering without pissing off the locals will continue.

Like I said win win situation.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;3018595]Sosua is where it is one of the easiest places in the world to establish meaningful connections with many guys from the US or around the world. The thing is, many guys that say they still go to Sosua for the brotherhood, they are usually already traveling to other places around the world. But they will still come back to connect with friends, and connect with established regulars.

These are the guys that don't need the streetwalkers like most of those other guys that visit infrequently, who feel Sosua is their only salvation. A lot of those complaining, they may not be able to travel further than the DR. Why? Because they have connections where they live that forbids it. So they depend on the shortest trip they can make.

Listen, back during the pandemic, guys that live in the DR, we had each other for company, and we all had regulars. None of us felt that Sosua was over because of curfews, and / or the lack of streetwalkers in town. Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit.

I've lived in the DR for a while now. Enough women walking around in Sosua are attractive, but many are uninspiring for me to hire. Too many negatives to list. And that is what infrequent visitors have to sort through when they come to Sosua, especially those with no established regulars.[/QUOTE]Sosua especially as the bulk of the chicas and weekend warriors leave will be great for the Su expat.

Prices for everything will go down and you.

Ll get less crime and noise. You have that big rolodex of numbers that you developed and you can use the Plug and Play chica network for new chicas partiallly vetted by old fav chicas who may not want to ruin a lucrative relationship by sending you a theif.

Same with bros I keep in contact with bros and expats I met 5 years ago. Hell I'm friends with some guys that I met on this board that I never actually met in person.

Again Sosua will always be Sosua in some form or fashion the town developed a brand for almost 40 years. Theres a actor from Spain that went semi viral on the Sosua youtube universe cheering the clean up. Theres no acting oppertunities in Sosua so ID say he's a sexpat who settled down too.

As a former expat now a long term visitor you get out of vacation mode into a little routine so you could hyprocritically celebrate the reforms on the DR1 forum while feeding half of Port au Prince through fucking every Haitiana in Sosua Abajo.

Humans will always be Human.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

I do not think weekend warriors will be back and this what some people wanted. Puerto Plata upper class a small minority is thrilled. However pass port brother supported many businesses. My barber will closin5 shop along with many others are finished.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3018627]Think about it Sosua is a one horse third world backwater beach town. Are the beaches nice? Yes but so are the beaches in Boca and Las Terranas.

The draw was always the one stop shop of some of the baddest chicas in the DR (at one time) Once the big clubs closed, then the quality dropped and the prices rose most dudes were out. I lived in the DR and I only went when dragged there. Most of the girls where from Santo Domingo and I lived in SD at the time.

Very few girls where from Sosua a few was from Puerta Plata but most were from Santiago and SD where the bulk of Dominicans live.

Could you import? Yes but imagine the expense of having them come to the Sosua Inn now.

Personally I think most of the sexpats will leave too.

That being said there's a chance that this might pass. The Su is one of the most well reported places on earth There's reports on Youtube that girls ventured out in the daytime Saturday / But why would a guy travel hundreds or thousands of miles away to go to a random beach town just to use Tinder and hope that the chick on Domincan time isn't a catfish and she has complete leverage over the prices. She could leave after ten minutes or charge a fortune for toda la noche /.

Unless your the hardest of the hardcore Su vet why go? Even Sosua defender Old Kool decamped for Punta Cana recently.

As for where guys will go Su vets will hundreds of numbers in their phones will just go where the bulk of their favorite chicas are But for the traditional weekend warrior they will defenitely go to Cartagena which is better because because of the crime and Police being a big city they won't let the town get completely out of control with guys riding ATV while drunk at top speed on the streets dealing with UAs (not by choice but dealing with girls on the streets and not vetting them) Smoking weed in public and getting too rowdy which will trigger a Sosua like crackdown /.

Carty already had several crackdowns where girls where made to act right and certain clubs where closed or moved.

Frankly just by the way Carty chica dress you get pre 2012 Sosua without the multiple brothel clubs on one street.

I don't think that Sosua will never not be a mongering destination for the guys willing to risk empty streets and import but the days of anything going and 30 creep cammers fliming every inch ofSosua is dead and that is for the best. Dudes will spread their vacations to other places and the happy medium of lower key mongering without pissing off the locals will continue.

Like I said win win situation.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.[/QUOTE]Great points Sir! I've been going since 2013 hellava lot of changes its the big reset, I'm retired from chica hunting as I have one chica I rent an apartment in LOS Castillios I go every other month. Stay 8 days some times a month or 2 like my second home, Any who if your a vet or sex pat chicas are still going to be availbel but not on a silver plata, this will revert back to the old days low key! We all can aggree this croaks the weekenf warriors pass port bros and othe folks that only know the 3 block area who knows high season will be here soon influx of retirees expats snow birds there will bes.

A slight up tick with chicas but for the most part Sosua is finito finnished or finni for you haitain lovers, My Advise is to adapt to the changers or move on to greener pastures! BTW do you think Kevins family will see bailees and the Inn?

[QUOTE=AsianSeeker777;3018795]Great points Sir! I've been going since 2013 hellava lot of changes its the big reset, I'm retired from chica hunting as I have one chica I rent an apartment in LOS Castillios I go every other month. Stay 8 days some times a month or 2 like my second home, Any who if your a vet or sex pat chicas are still going to be availbel but not on a silver plata, this will revert back to the old days low key! We all can aggree this croaks the weekenf warriors pass port bros and othe folks that only know the 3 block area who knows high season will be here soon influx of retirees expats snow birds there will bes.

A slight up tick with chicas but for the most part Sosua is finito finnished or finni for you haitain lovers, My Advise is to adapt to the changers or move on to greener pastures! BTW do you think Kevins family will see bailees and the Inn?[/QUOTE]As the perennial eulogy for Sosua continues to dominate ISG, this must be August. Right? LOL.

Sosua is brushing up it's image, is all!

New developments, paved streets, new sidewalks, and new bars and restaurants to meet legal prostitutes (Hard Rock Cafe is the latest) assure that the third world skank meat market on the two block strip is on it's way out.

Sosua is a snowbird destination, among other things, and during the summer doldrums it's hurricane season, the airlines cut back on flights, the open air bars lay off staff, and chill, until it all starts up again from November to March.

The chicas tone down their game with a little help from the cops, and mongers may have to invest in shoes and a shirt, to meet the reduced available supply.

But there'll be few positive reports on ISG, until it all starts up again in high season.

Until then it's just dishing the same old rumors and speculations.

Rinse and repeat!

Night clubs or bar restaurants that open from 12 pm to 5 am. Very structured. Security and strict acceptance policy for working girls. Hotels adjoining. And activities kept inside. Ownership keep the women in line. Security keep the fellas in line. Few police probing the streets occasionally. Discreet Brothels will return. Walking the street hoes, dictating price, Performance will be minimized if not totally eradicated. More franchise fast food restaurants will move in. I went to a nightclub in Brazil 17 straight days and its like a strip club. Much wilder than kings. Just as many but more fabulous chicks and variety. Sex on stage, women allowing you to touch them all over so its all about keeping things contained inside. That's the new movement in the monger world.

Structure and policing. But Ghana next 4 me. I won't lose no sleep. LOL.

[QUOTE=AsianSeeker777;3018795]Great points Sir! I've been going since 2013 hellava lot of changes its the big reset, I'm retired from chica hunting as I have one chica I rent an apartment in LOS Castillios I go every other month. Stay 8 days some times a month or 2 like my second home, Any who if your a vet or sex pat chicas are still going to be availbel but not on a silver plata, this will revert back to the old days low key! We all can aggree this croaks the weekenf warriors pass port bros and othe folks that only know the 3 block area who knows high season will be here soon influx of retirees expats snow birds there will bes.

A slight up tick with chicas but for the most part Sosua is finito finnished or finni for you haitain lovers, My Advise is to adapt to the changers or move on to greener pastures! BTW do you think Kevins family will see bailees and the Inn?[/QUOTE]We all seem to agree that manily only the most dedicated and invested Sue mongers and sexpats will go to Sosua with any regularity. So the best of the rest of local girls will still be availible. For those guys little would change.

With Airbnb listings down I'd shop around unless you've been grandfathered into a super deal you could be a better deal on rent now that the overpaying passport bros have moved on.

I predict a slow Holloween and the tell will be Labor day weekend, no crowds no creep cams and Passport bro businesses are done.

As far as Kevin he's seen the writing on the wall years ago and have been trying to unload the whole building for 10 million for years no serious takers.

If I owned it I'd keep it same with the Ahnvee sit on it and cross your fingers that someone wants to make a resort out of it.

Or do like John of Casa de Comprai does and turn it into a mini Blackbeards where old school Sue Vets can hole up with favorita chica and do a toda las vacaciones.

John moves like that he has his faves that he brings to his business and knocks off in Peace totally legally the cops don't want girls in tights saying Freaky Deaky Papi to everyone on PC. You can stillmake a private deal with chicas.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3018809]As the perennial eulogy for Sosua continues to dominate ISG, this must be August. Right? LOL.

Sosua is brushing up it's image, is all!

New developments, paved streets, new sidewalks, and new bars and restaurants to meet legal prostitutes (Hard Rock Cafe is the latest) assure that the third world skank meat market on the two block strip is on it's way out.

Sosua is a snowbird destination, among other things, and during the summer doldrums it's hurricane season, the airlines cut back on flights, the open air bars lay off staff, and chill, until it all starts up again from November to March.

The chicas tone down their game with a little help from the cops, and mongers may have to invest in shoes and a shirt, to meet the reduced available supply.

But there'll be few positive reports on ISG, until it all starts up again in high season.

Until then it's just dishing the same old rumors and speculations.

Rinse and repeat![/QUOTE]No one is saying that all expats and long tern visitors will stop coming or immediately decamp to Cartagena. If you're true blue dyed in the wool veteran of the sue there's no place like it in the western hemisphere.

Look at Asian seeker despite is name he escapes cold winters in New England for the sunny shores of Sosua yet he has an apartment there. Try doing that in Colombia without a cedula. l Way before the airbnb crackdown you had to ask if your Airbnb near the clock tower fleshpot was chica friendly.

Way safer in Sosua to boot. But talking to most old school vets from the pre 2012 era that already cut back on trips and went for old times sake losing the window shopping expeirence on PC and posting up in Rumbas watching the display makes it unlikely that that batch will continue to come.

My take is that it will become Boca Chica North. Boca went through the same crackdown a log time ago and Sosua benefitted from it. I know guys that are Colombia veterans that cut their teeth in BC and still include it on their Iteneraies.

Maybe like Boca the Beaches will be relatively clear with locals enjoying the beach with the occasional hustler trying to sell you things including chicas, maybe like Boca a side street will be the place for action but if the strip dies then the incintive for the Villa Girls with cars have less incintive to go.

I live in Colombia and I'd say outside my beloved Kenya no place is better to pick up semipros. Colombia with the much larger popluation and better educated, cheaper prices and better dressed women doesn't come close.

But for the traveler why waste your time going to a backwater beach town? Even if your flying into POP why not just stay in Puerta Plata where most ex PC putas live?

I actually hope Sosua remains a passport bro haven but that would require defying the express wishes of the President.

To be honest the racial undertones of some Sue mongers celebrating this think that less Passport bros means less competition for the Canadian Dollar and German Euro is unhelpful. Guys at Bar cent more similar than different. Germans like to look at ass too.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Blakman;3018812]Night clubs or bar restaurants that open from 12 pm to 5 am. Very structured. Security and strict acceptance policy for working girls. Hotels adjoining. And activities kept inside. Ownership keep the women in line. Security keep the fellas in line. Few police probing the streets occasionally. Discreet Brothels will return. Walking the street hoes, dictating price, Performance will be minimized if not totally eradicated. More franchise fast food restaurants will move in. I went to a nightclub in Brazil 17 straight days and its like a strip club. Much wilder than kings. Just as many but more fabulous chicks and variety. Sex on stage, women allowing you to touch them all over so its all about keeping things contained inside. That's the new movement in the monger world.

Structure and policing. But Ghana next 4 me. I won't lose no sleep. LOL.[/QUOTE]That could be the long term play to create a ton of mini Blackbeards but being Dominican owned and operated. I would say that Dominican culture and the Vets that love the Dr despite the ups and downs like the unstructured wild wild west atmosphere of the DR.

Take the whole DR vs. Colombia debate first thing Dominican mongers say if they prefer Livoris to Scope even though you could go to La Isla or Fase Dos get blackout drunk with 5 chicas and all of your stuff will be there when you come to.

In the DR you'll definitely get rolled but not die but a lot of guys don't like brothels. The DR is looking for the low key monger the guy that picks up at some random bar discreetely where both parties have plausible deniabilty.

One thing people leave out is the DR is small 11 million people You open a sucessful super club and you'll get foreign hoes, The Passport bro might dig it but the idea is to create jobs for Dominicans notVennies and Haitians.

For Dominicans it's Dominicans first and foremost.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Blakman;3018812]Night clubs or bar restaurants that open from 12 pm to 5 am. Very structured. Security and strict acceptance policy for working girls.[/QUOTE]And who is going to open something like that? My guess is nobody. And if they do, then it will not be open for long.

I noticed no one even brought this up but a couple of months ago Finger Finger got arrested and he was pleading for Black America to recuse him. I notified his YouTube account is down anyone got any information on his situation.

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3018867]I noticed no one even brought this up but a couple of months ago Finger Finger got arrested and he was pleading for Black America to recuse him. I notified his YouTube account is down anyone got any information on his situation.[/QUOTE]Black America did help him.

But homie got bagged ror Drugs.

He got 8 years.

Hope this helps.

Trip.

So. I get that this is a much more extensive clean up. Who knows it might actually take. I can't imagine mayor Willy is going to go quietly into the night. He is mayor for 3 more years I believe- he has sunk a lot of money into Classicos and the business model is obviously bro's and hoes. Things will change but big headlines at the depth of low season are not likely to be the end of the story- I live in Sosua all winter. And usually a couple trips through the slow season. For me the cleanup really has no effect in the short term- I procure using alternate methods as does anyone who has been here a while- however. A lot of businesses will fail in the short run if this does take- the impact on the larger community will be significant -I am sure the weekend warriors are paying for a lot of condos. I have friends who think this is great. Maybe if the passport bros could learn a little discretion and morons could stop posting their working girl stories on social media. The folks in charge could go back to turning a blind eye. If you rub the mongering in their face they can't pretend to ignore it. Ask Cuba Dave.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3018822].....In the DR you'll definitely get rolled but not die but a lot of guys don't like brothels.......[/QUOTE]Brothels and online are more discreet. Perhaps it would be more acceptable if action is moved away from the clubs and streets.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3019019]Brothels and online are more discreet. Perhaps it would be more acceptable if action is moved away from the clubs and streets.[/QUOTE]That's exactly what they're looking for everything to go to certain selected and protected Casas owned by Dominican elites and or using the apps like Tinder if you need them to be delivered like working girl dash or the but butt delivery service aka the snappi nappi rappi.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3019025]That's exactly what they're looking for everything to go to certain selected and protected Casas owned by Dominican elites and or using the apps like Tinder if you need them to be delivered like working girl dash or the but butt delivery service aka the snappi nappi rappi.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately that goes totally against the vibe that guys were going to Sosua for. They can stay home to find hookers online. I can not imagine 200 dudes lined up at a brothel in Sosua for 10 chicks; 1 of whom may look decent. If them hoes were trying to do brothel work then they would already be at BBs. But of course BBs has rules, and we all know the vast majority of Sosua SWs are not trying to follow any rules.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3018819]But for the traveler why waste your time going to a backwater beach town? Even if your flying into POP why not just stay in Puerta Plata where most ex PC putas live?[/QUOTE]You're assuming that all travelers spend all their time and money fucking 24/7.

DR had a record 11 million visitors this last season, more than the actual DR population! As I reported before, there's a new punter in town. Young, mostly black, affluent who can work remote from their laptop WiFi. They are having fun and spending money! The old jaded and cheap white monger of 10 years has faded from the scene, or retired.

And a beach is a huge asset to an island destination! LOL.

[QUOTE]I actually hope Sosua remains a passport bro haven but that would require defying the express wishes of the President.

To be honest the racial undertones of some Sue mongers celebrating this think that less Passport bros means less competition for the Canadian Dollar and German Euro is unhelpful. Guys at Bar cent more similar than different. Germans like to look at ass too.[/QUOTE]Unless you believe the DR government are racists, I doubt the periodic clean up has "racial overtones" LOL.

They cherry pick "illegals", and most illegals are Haitians by happenstance!

DR is the least racist country of all the 30 countries or so, I have spent time in. And l have lived and worked in a few!

[QUOTE=Norbert61;3019013]So. I get that this is a much more extensive clean up. Who knows it might actually take. I can't imagine mayor Willy is going to go quietly into the night. He is mayor for 3 more years I believe- he has sunk a lot of money into Classicos and the business model is obviously bro's and hoes. Things will change but big headlines at the depth of low season are not likely to be the end of the story- I live in Sosua all winter. And usually a couple trips through the slow season. For me the cleanup really has no effect in the short term- I procure using alternate methods as does anyone who has been here a while- however. A lot of businesses will fail in the short run if this does take- the impact on the larger community will be significant -I am sure the weekend warriors are paying for a lot of condos. I have friends who think this is great. Maybe if the passport bros could learn a little discretion and morons could stop posting their working girl stories on social media. The folks in charge could go back to turning a blind eye. If you rub the mongering in their face they can't pretend to ignore it. Ask Cuba Dave.[/QUOTE]If you rub the mongering in their face they can't pretend to ignore it. Ask Cuba Dave.

I am sure someone in Brazil said the same thing you said. But individuals that were more critical thinking minded realized the idea sustained hoe money and boost economic money. It is a brilliant duality plan. Thus the emergency of Scandallo, Casarao, and other Brazilian clubs similar without any backlash from the government and public.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3018836]And who is going to open something like that? My guess is nobody. And if they do, then it will not be open for long.[/QUOTE].

If they get it done right and backfill the businesses they are going to wipe out. Then draw the desired tourists that they seek.

[QUOTE]You're assuming that all travelers spend all their time and money fucking 24/7.[/QUOTE]The [I]clean up[/I] is not aimed at all travelers.

[QUOTE]DR had a record 11 million visitors this last season, more than the actual DR population![/QUOTE]The numbers broken down by airport arrivals paint a better picture.

[QUOTE]And a beach is a huge asset to an island destination! LOL.[/QUOTE][B]The Dominican Republic is full of beaches[/B] Punta Cana, La Terrainas, LOS Galaras and Baharona, La Ramana, Boca Chica and those are just the areas I have personally visited.

[QUOTE]Unless you believe the DR government are racists, I doubt the periodic clean up has "racial overtones" LOL.[/QUOTE]I do. Unless you have your head buried in a sand like a ostrich our tucked in to your shell like a turtle ALL you have to do is pay attention to the language that is being use by everyone speaking about the issue in all forms of the media.

[QUOTE]DR is the least racist country of all the 30 countries or so, I have spent time in.[/QUOTE]Completely disagree. [U]Of course I know this statement was made by a person who has never stepped foot in Thailand[/U]. The place that I have found to be the least racist country that I have spent time in.

[B]Bottom line[/B]: Have any laws changed? [B]No[/B]! Simply goes to show that the Dominican Republic is a nation where the rule of men prevail. Not the rule of law.

[B]Everything in the Dominican Republic is ok until someone says that it isn't[/B]

The people of Sosua will adjust, the business owners will adjust and so will the people visiting visiting. There are a LOT of places in the world where can hire a prostitute. In the big picture I don't see how it is going on to be a loss to anyone except those considered to be on the wrong side of issue as defined by the DRGOV.

[B]For those that will question my bonafides[/B]: Ten years plus of living full time in the Dominican Republic. Got blue paper with my name on it and a payroll to meet!

[QUOTE=Blakman;3019201]I am sure someone in Brazil said the same thing you said. But individuals that were more critical thinking minded realized the idea sustained hoe money and boost economic money. It is a brilliant duality plan. Thus the emergency of Scandallo, Casarao, and other Brazilian clubs similar without any backlash from the government and public.[/QUOTE]What you are leaving out is that the places that you named are local spots for local people. The club that was for foreigners, Help, was gone 15 years ago. You can not use the local scene as a measuring stick for the tourist scene.

The Dominican Republic is not Thailand. They do not like in your face P4P. They never did. The solution for Sosua is the casa business. Businessmen to open casas all over the town where all the action takes place behind closed doors. Let all the ladies of the night, of which there were many in or visiting Sosua, work in these casas away from the prying eyes of the tourist families (which the authorities crave) bathing, sunning and sanding at the beach. Win win for all except the street mongers.

Casas are technically illegal. Girls can sell all the pussy they want but pimping facilitating is not. How Blackbeard has survived all these years is a mystery. Back in the day Sosua had Passions and CMP providing casa like services both were shut down and owners prosecuted. The infrastructure of our hobby is being starved to death and will die. My friends who are local think this is wrap and their Businesses are done. For the last month no weekend actions. Girls are not coming and bros are cancelling. When there is uncertainty guys will bow out. I know I did. I posted to Punta Cana for my last romp. Without the influx of women Sosua has nothing.

I think the powers that be have over estimated Sosua's potential.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3019262]The Dominican Republic is not Thailand. They do not like in your face P4P. They never did. The solution for Sosua is the casa business. Businessmen to open casas all over the town where all the action takes place behind closed doors. Let all the ladies of the night, of which there were many in or visiting Sosua, work in these casas away from the prying eyes of the tourist families (which the authorities crave) bathing, sunning and sanding at the beach. Win win for all except the street mongers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Oakie;3018809]As the perennial eulogy for Sosua continues to dominate ISG, this must be August. Right? LOL.

Sosua is brushing up it's image, is all!

New developments, paved streets, new sidewalks, and new bars and restaurants to meet legal prostitutes (Hard Rock Cafe is the latest) assure that the third world skank meat market on the two block strip is on it's way out.

Sosua is a snowbird destination, among other things, and during the summer doldrums it's hurricane season, the airlines cut back on flights, the open air bars lay off staff, and chill, until it all starts up again from November to March.

The chicas tone down their game with a little help from the cops, and mongers may have to invest in shoes and a shirt, to meet the reduced available supply.

But there'll be few positive reports on ISG, until it all starts up again in high season.

Until then it's just dishing the same old rumors and speculations.

Rinse and repeat![/QUOTE]Honestly I just feel for the owners that invested their hard earn money into sosua with purchasing property, bars, restaurants, hotels etc. This is the 3rd time theyve put the little guy investors in a precarious predicament of what's going to happen in Sosua. And if I'm a big time investor I would look at how you're treating the little guys. If you're fucking over the little guys what are you going to do to me. Add to the fact you're harassing the folks that's going to literally build your new infractrure (haitains) and once again all you got is chaos and insanity leading Sosua into the future. Theres a HUGE development in Sosua that sums up where we heading and you spoke upon it about a year or so ago that never got fully developed. I believe it was called Playa Puerto Chiquito. And that's where sosua could be heading 😬.

BUT I will say this. Through all the speculation and guesstimation (mines included) on what's to come theres 2 people that lm looking at. 1 is the mayor Willy. He sure has been awfully quiet since the crack down especially since he spent a shit ton of money in remodeling Classicos. And 2 its a high ranking national lieutenant in Sosua that you introduce me to a couple years ago. Dude post ALL the time on WhatsApp but have NOT posted one thing on the crackdown of Sosua. Which kinded leads me to believe that if you're a resident or own a business / property down there to just be cool, stay low in the chaos by shutting your mouth and not broadcast everything on the internet & youtube etc as youll make yourself a target and in 6-9 months youll be fine.

In other words be cool and breathe life in, and everything will workout for you in the end. Can you dig it.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3019262][b]The Dominican Republic is not Thailand[/b]. They do not like in your face P4P. They never did. The solution for Sosua is the casa business. Businessmen to open casas all over the town where all the action takes place behind closed doors. Let all the ladies of the night, of which there were many in or visiting Sosua, work in these casas away from the prying eyes of the tourist families (which the authorities crave) bathing, sunning and sanding at the beach. Win win for all except the street mongers.[/QUOTE]The [B]Dominican Republic[/B] is not Thailand. The Dominican Republic lives or dies on tourism. They have no major industry other than that. Their objective is to maximize revenue for tourism. The current decision that has been made by the DRGOV about Sosua is based on that. They have made their choice. [B]Deal with it[/B]!

My Father told me, when you find yourself in the middle of the street with a tank bearing down on you and nothing but a rock to defend yourself. That is not the time to make a last stand. The objective is to save your ass. That means finding cover and hoping the tank commander has more important things to do than fire up your ass!

How difficult is is to book a plane ticket to another location?

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;3019551]1 is the mayor Willy. He sure has been awfully quiet since the crack down especially since he spent a shit ton of money in remodeling Classicos. Which kinded leads me to believe that if you're a resident or own a business / property down there to just be cool, stay low in the chaos by shutting your mouth and not broadcast everything on the internet & youtube etc as youll make yourself a target and in 6-9 months youll be fine.[/QUOTE]You mongers are a funny bunch. I mean what are people (business owners) really going to say? Hey you are killing my business by driving all the hookers out? And then critical thinking allows someone in government to respond yes you are right. We should let the hookers stay? You guys truly live in your own world. You get wrapped into mongering and soon consider it to be a normal thing and that people outside of it should not mind having it in their faces.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;3019551]Honestly I just feel for the owners that invested their hard earn money into sosua with purchasing property, bars, restaurants, hotels etc. This is the 3rd time theyve put the little guy investors in a precarious predicament of what's going to happen in Sosua. And if I'm a big time investor I would look at how you're treating the little guys. If you're fucking over the little guys what are you going to do to me. Add to the fact you're harassing the folks that's going to literally build your new infractrure (haitains) and once again all you got is chaos and insanity leading Sosua into the future. Theres a HUGE development in Sosua that sums up where we heading and you spoke upon it about a year or so ago that never got fully developed. I believe it was called Playa Puerto Chiquito. And that's where sosua could be heading 😬.[/QUOTE]Save your tears, Coolie! LOL.

The only true indication of what will happen to Sosua, is what is happening now, on the ground. Since you were last here, the Haitians have been opening and staffing all the new bars and reno hotels up past Europa, on Pedro.

Even the four popular ex-pat bars up there are now owned and staffed by Haitians (legal and otherwise). More Haitians than ever!

We have more American brothers, younger, affluent working from home by internet, and displacing the old white mongers with tight budgets. And snapping up the local non and semi pros.

They like what they see and are investing in property. The American brothers add a good vibe to the town. Check out YT videos for some testimonials from visitors turned investors.

As always, best to follow the money. They see a bright future for Sosua.

Matter of fact, the future is looking so good that the current war is over who gets control of this cash cow tourist dollar!

I fell in love with Sosua the first time I visited, 17 years ago and since then all the changes, and investments in infrastructure have been an improvement in my eyes.

Of course I don't spend my time posted up on the two block stroll, watching the "same 25" skanks go round the block! They are not your typical Dominicanas, and the hustlers around them are not your typical Dominicanos. Liars, lazy and thieves? You need to broaden your social circle! LOL.

The typical Dominican chica is as fresh and beautiful as ever, and you can find them everywhere except on that 2 block strip! They are being scooped up by the aforementioned affluent brothers and actually getting married! Remember that old term? LOL.

Malls, stores, shops, banks, restaurant staff, it's a legal way to supplement their income. A cultural phenomena.

But don't expect to be hand fed, by pimps, mamasans and casa and bar owners. That's illegal. It's still a little throwback to the singles mingles dating game. You both get to choose each other, with no third party involved, or obligation to entertain them with drinks!

Time to personally update your info Coolie!

I don't know why everybody's panicking over Sosua. Punta Cana only has slightly higher prices and way better quality. It's on the other side of the island which is just a few hours drive or you can fly into that side. Dominicans are undefeated and I'the rather go to a beautiful beach in Punta Cana surrounded by Dominican beauties, then go to some of these other countries and get drugged and robbed and my life savings wiped out.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3019591]You mongers are a funny bunch. I mean what are people (business owners) really going to say? Hey you are killing my business by driving all the hookers out? And then critical thinking allows someone in government to respond yes you are right. We should let the hookers stay? You guys truly live in your own world. You get wrapped into mongering and soon consider it to be a normal thing and that people outside of it should not mind having it in their faces.[/QUOTE]Yeah you seem to forget that this little beach town is a "mongering" town. Its been that way for atleast over 50 plus yrs now. So yeah NOT having any females around is a HUGE damper into the eco-system. Its why we are even here on this website. I met alot of good dudes from all walks of life simply because sosua had a parade of tits and ass parading down the beach. Local businesses enduring even the insane moment in human history called covid because of tits and ass walking around without a mask on. So yeah if I was business owner I be an a uproar BUT I would do my uproar behind closed doors which I put money Willy and the rest of the local businees owners are doing. Hell there was supposed to be a protest today from local businesses but got called off at the last second because again a smart business owners handle their grievances behind closed doors down there.

[URL]https://youtu.be/JjCYTmshjPk?si=MkzpoeSC38SsufMP[/URL]

[QUOTE=Oakie;3019612]
Time to personally update your info Coolie![/QUOTE]Hey I would update my info if you answer your WhatsApp LOL. Holla at nephew.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;3019664]Yeah you seem to forget that this little beach town is a "mongering" town. Its been that way for atleast over 50 plus yrs now[/QUOTE]Mfs were given an inch and they decided to take a mile. Can't complain when the party is finally over for something you knew should not have been in the first place.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;3019664]So yeah if I was business owner I be an a uproar BUT I would do my uproar behind closed doors which I put money Willy and the rest of the local businees owners are doing. Hell there was supposed to be a protest today from local businesses but got called off at the last second because again a smart business owners handle their grievances behind closed doors down there.[/QUOTE]In an uproar saying what? That you opened a business because hookers out in the open drew foreigners there? And now that the hookers are gone no more foreigners are coming and giving you business? You can not be serious about this.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;3019664]Yeah you seem to forget that this little beach town is a "mongering" town. Its been that way for atleast over 50 plus yrs now. So yeah NOT having any females around is a HUGE damper into the eco-system. Its why we are even here on this website. I met alot of good dudes from all walks of life simply because sosua had a parade of tits and ass parading down the beach. Local businesses enduring even the insane moment in human history called covid because of tits and ass walking around without a mask on. So yeah if I was business owner I be an a uproar BUT I would do my uproar behind closed doors which I put money Willy and the rest of the local businees owners are doing. Hell there was supposed to be a protest today from local businesses but got called off at the last second because again a smart business owners handle their grievances behind closed doors down there.

[URL]https://youtu.be/JjCYTmshjPk?si=MkzpoeSC38SsufMP[/URL]

Hey I would update my info if you answer your WhatsApp LOL. Holla at nephew.[/QUOTE]Agreed 100%. You said one big / major keyword that' everything, "Ecosystem". This is like removing Shamu including All of the whales out of Seaworld, and still have to audacity to expect visitors and growth in the city because you're bringing a SNAKE show instead LOL. Nah, the restaurants, hundreds of street merchants, the rides, all will be affected and eventually closed down bc people go to Seaworld for the main event. Once you remove it, the entire "Ecosystem" is dead. And you might as well change the name to Snakesword.

Not having girls around as usual pretty much damages the city and they might as well change the name. Because the only reason why Sosua is Sosua, gets on the news, causes drama, increase the north's economy incl real estate pricing, all that shit is because the "working girls" period. Once they take that away the town is dead. All those so called family resorts will be dead on arrival. The govt there and investors are just hungry, greedy but brain-dead apes not realizing why there's flights and traffic in Sosua.

It's a fucking red-light district, one of the oldest in the Caribbean for fucksake. Why is that so hard to see?

Most of the restaurants, casinos, clubs, beach merchants, all are going to be forced to close or move elsewhere.

Early yesterday 3 pm in Jamaica, I picked up a 26 year old young lady with no kids off tinder, I brought her to KFC $32. Uber and taxi $8. We fucked in the shower, overall 4 sessions 2 nuts. Decent head. Took her to drop off point 11 am next day taxi $6. Two outfits $5. Bag of mangoes from the backyard tree. $0 LOL. Majority of the food stayed in the refrigerator LOL. Petty but factual.

This same girl spent time in Brazil.

Should we reevaluate how much we P4P? Reclaim the market price.

The reason we're even talking about this is because people can't talk about it.

Anyone familar with the DR and it's culture knows pussy is availible countrywide. I know one guy who rides his moto along the Haitain border picking up girls on the raodside or clomados and taking them to cabanas and dropping them off paying no more than 1200 pesos.

But people keep talking around it. There's a major land grab and political power struggle happening between ultra corrupt Mayor Willy and The President's Family.

Again no one knows what's going to happen, The Hard Rock is listed as "Hard Rock Puerta Plata" despite being in Sosua. But someone bought that land and property. Look at the Sosua Inn one of the better hotels in town and has bailee's downstairs, It used to have a club upstairs and now has apartments. Kevin has been trying to unload the whole thing at 10 million for two years no takers.

If I had pull in Santo Domingo I could call in the army chase the weekend warriors away then buy it as a distressed sale for 4 million Then sell it to someone else who will either turn it into apartments or condos or make it a small resort. The girls could come back or the families could come and either way the person who bought for a song makes money.

Anyone on youtube no matter what they say is small potatoes and don't really matter which is why they can't talk about certain things or be a citizen.

Again The Dominican "Republic" is a rule of Men not law country Property rights and freedom of speech and association only matters so much.

Just ask the chicas who got arrested in a public place for no reason. Say what you want about the US at least they'll declare the block being under indictment the DR doesn\t even bother with that legal fiction.

Sosua beach is public in the sense that all Dominicans must be able to access it unlike all inclusives on other Islands where they can literally buy up the beach. But Playa Sosua is "privately owned".

Just like Classico's and Passions was and we see what happened there.

One thing for sure is that they days of a foriegn monger opening up a far hiring prositutes to work there getting free samples and getting some kind of kickback for every backshot is over.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Hobo3;3019654]I don't know why everybody's panicking over Sosua. Punta Cana only has slightly higher prices and way better quality. It's on the other side of the island which is just a few hours drive or you can fly into that side. Dominicans are undefeated and I'the rather go to a beautiful beach in Punta Cana surrounded by Dominican beauties, then go to some of these other countries and get drugged and robbed and my life savings wiped out.[/QUOTE]SHHHHH! Not so loud.

The reason we're even talking about this is because people can't talk about it.

Anyone familar with the DR and it's culture knows pussy is availible countrywide. I know one guy who rides his moto along the Haitain border picking up girls on the roadside colmados and taking them to cabanas and dropping them off paying no more than 1200 pesos.

But people keep talking around it. There's a major land grab and political power struggle happening between ultra corrupt Mayor Willy and The President's Family.

Again no one knows what's going to happen, The Hard Rock is listed as "Hard Rock Puerta Plata" despite being in Sosua. But someone bought that land and property. Look at the Sosua Inn one of the better hotels in town and has bailee's downstairs, It used to have a club upstairs and now has apartments. Kevin has been trying to unload the whole thing at 10 million for two years no takers.

If I had pull in Santo Domingo I could call in the army chase the weekend warriors away then buy it as a distressed sale for 4 million Then sell it to someone else who will either turn it into apartments or condos or make it a small resort. The girls could come back or the families could come and either way the person who bought for a song makes money.

Anyone on youtube no matter what they say is small potatoes and don't really matter which is why they can't talk about certain things or be a citizen.

Again The Dominican "Republic" is a rule of Men not law country Property rights and freedom of speech and association only matters so much.

Just ask the chicas who got arrested in a public place for no reason. Say what you want about the US at least they'll declare the block being under indictment the DR doesn\t even bother with that legal fiction.

Sosua beach is public in the sense that all Dominicans must be able to access it unlike all inclusives on other Islands where they can literally buy up the beach. But Playa Sosua is "privately owned".

Just like Classico's and Passions was and we see what happened there.

One thing for sure is that they days of a foriegn monger opening up a far hiring prositutes to work there getting free samples and getting some kind of kickback for every backshot is over.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

Of all the predictions so far, the one that has been most realistic is that action will go underground and getting laid will need more work, if the crackdown is sustained.

When you think about it, like someone rightfully said, there are women to be met in every part of the island, but Sosua stands out like a sore thumb, with creep camers uploading daily videos of the 2 blocks of two streets for the world to see. The decision makers still know that prostitution is a huge part the tourism pull, which is why they haven't made laws to outlaw it entirely.

When I was last in Punta Cana, everyone was a pimp, from the cab that picked my up at the airport, the security guy at the bar, the moto guy, everyone wants to offer you girls, regardless of how how you say no, some are even possibly scams. But that's the vibe, more hidden and overpriced, unless you have your way.

Sosua was special because you need no pimp or system, just walk the streets, enjoy the sight and choose to partake or not. But some people couldn't just visit and go home, they wanted to profit off of it by making lame videos on YouTube. And like someone rightfully said, when you rub it on the faces of the authorities, they can't not do nothing.

Depending on which direction the crackdown and rebranding go, if they are able to pull off the all inclusive resort vibes, then it becomes Punta Cana, more restricted, more expensive. If they can't it becomes another Boca Chica, a few empty overpriced resorts and very little action.

In any case, the only people that have issues are the weekend warriors that depend on the street walkers, those who have been off the beaten paths will be fine, if anything it's more women for them to meet.

Does anybody have current information about what's happening on the Strip??

Ill be there Thursday night

Are you talking about Calle Jamaica if so may we have more details on chica please? Or is it Jamaic Jamaica?

[QUOTE=Blakman;3019693]Early yesterday 3 pm in Jamaica, I picked up a 26 year old young lady with no kids off tinder, I brought her to KFC $32. Uber and taxi $8. We fucked in the shower, overall 4 sessions 2 nuts. Decent head. Took her to drop off point 11 am next day taxi $6. Two outfits $5. Bag of mangoes from the backyard tree. $0 LOL. Majority of the food stayed in the refrigerator LOL. Petty but factual.

This same girl spent time in Brazil.

Should we reevaluate how much we P4P? Reclaim the market price.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chicharito99;3019701]"You mongers"? I really wish to understand how your own world works inside of your head. If you don't refer to yourself as part of the "mongers", what are you exactly? Going by your post history you have been to almost every mongering destination on this platform, what do you visit these destinations for?

Why are you on this platform really? First, you don't think working ladies should be treated with decency, you look down on mongers, because you are a "real worlder" who married a wife that had her own house before you two met, so what happened? Why are you on forums for every sex tourism destination in the world? Did your wife kick you out?

You have made 17,731 posts on this platform, if it takes you 15 minutes each time you have to read and write a condescending response, that's 265,965 minutes, 4,433 hours, 185 days, half a year of continuous trolling. Every single post is disparaging everyone, locals, ladies, men, everyone, who hurt you?

What is your purpose of being here, if you are not a monger, you hate working girls, what exactly are you doing on this board?[/QUOTE]Maybe I can help.

We mongers are a diverse lot.

We are the marks, johns and tricks that keep the business going, but some have an ego that puts them above the hookers they pay to get them off. A sense of superiority, when all they have in reality is the price of fucking a hoe.

But when you're in bed exchanging body fluids with a hoe you have no superior morality. The trick is no better than the hoe. She's selling mangoes she gets for free, and finishes up with the money. So in that sense she's ahead in the game.

And if even half the sad tales of rip offs that seem to follow some mongers and their "buddies", LOL, around, she's ahead in the intelligence game too, because there's no rip off, without a sucker!

As to why some detractors seem addicted to spending all that precious time dissing the same old place, out of all the sex tourist destinations in the world, thousands of posts over the years, that's above my pay scale.

But from my experience those jags are born of butt hurt personal experiences, being schooled by a "poor uneducated hoe", and we know that hell hath no fury like a monger scorned!

Over in the Pattaya thread some guy just posted a long diatribe under the heading. [B]Pattaya is over![/B]. LOL.

Best to ignore them, and enjoy our hobby!

[QUOTE=Blakman;3019693]Early yesterday 3 pm in Jamaica, I picked up a 26 year old young lady with no kids off tinder,

Should we reevaluate how much we P4P? Reclaim the market price.[/QUOTE]Yesterday I took an Uber in Colombia for $2. Last week I took an Uber the same distance in New York for $30. Jamaica is not Brazil is not Thailand is not Japan. What happened in Jamaica has nothing to do with the prices paid in Dominican Republic. Paying for pussy is not a global market; it is a local market, same as a house, taxi, or piece of chicken.

[QUOTE=Adinga;3019759]Does anybody have current information about what's happening on the Strip??

Ill be there Thursday night[/QUOTE]Here is current information on the strip:

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1CKQ3G14Jo/?mibextid=wwXIfr[/URL]

[QUOTE=Chicharito99;3019754]Of all the predictions so far, the one that has been most realistic is that action will go underground and getting laid will need more work, if the crackdown is sustained.

When you think about it, like someone rightfully said, there are women to be met in every part of the island, but Sosua stands out like a sore thumb, with creep camers uploading daily videos of the 2 blocks of two streets for the world to see. The decision makers still know that prostitution is a huge part the tourism pull, which is why they haven't made laws to outlaw it entirely.

When I was last in Punta Cana, everyone was a pimp, from the cab that picked my up at the airport, the security guy at the bar, the moto guy, everyone wants to offer you girls, regardless of how how you say no, some are even possibly scams. But that's the vibe, more hidden and overpriced, unless you have your way.

Sosua was special because you need no pimp or system, just walk the streets, enjoy the sight and choose to partake or not. But some people couldn't just visit and go home, they wanted to profit off of it by making lame videos on YouTube. And like someone rightfully said, when you rub it on the faces of the authorities, they can't not do nothing.

Depending on which direction the crackdown and rebranding go, if they are able to pull off the all inclusive resort vibes, then it becomes Punta Cana, more restricted, more expensive. If they can't it becomes another Boca Chica, a few empty overpriced resorts and very little action.

In any case, the only people that have issues are the weekend warriors that depend on the street walkers, those who have been off the beaten paths will be fine, if anything it's more women for them to meet.[/QUOTE]I said that it's likely to be Boca Chica north Boca looks dead but go to Duarte Avenue and there's a small strip right there. It really gets rocking at night. Because it's so compact it\s hard to creep cam and the girls aren't super aggressive you just have to open your eyes.

You also get the beach hustlers they tend to be extremely aggressive.

And or Punta Cana you go to Drink Point or the Infinity complex especially the strip club and the majority of girls there are availible again you just have to open your eyes.

What made Sosua "special" was what I and the local Dominicans hated was the window shopping training wheels aspect of Agressive chicas literally grabbing your junk and saying " freaky freaky papi".

I can\t see that appealing to anyone other than the stereotypical Incel or extremely Fisher Price my first sex tour kind of guy that needs a girl to pick him while he says "Ah Shucks Ok how much did you say 7000 Pesos here take this" as he gives her 10,000 pesos because he doesn't know how much that is.

I was just in the SD thread saying that El Conde has the same parade aspect where you could window shop, olge the girls and point the one you want out. The difference is you had to realize the ones hand in hand with a Man or with children is unavailble. The only difference is in Sosua all the women on those two blocks are availible.

I aslo said that hoes are availble Island wide my first piece of Pussy was at the Burger King counter at Agora Mall (one of the highest end malls in the country).

Again what guys like about the Su was the wild wild west adult spring break where you could race ATV's up the wrong side of the road in a convoy while drunk and smoking weed with two chicas hanging off the back.

You could get a "happy hour" anywhere in the DR (obviously not from every woman) with the ATV's and the hennessy. Trade the ATV for a moto and the Henny for Brugal and and you could have the same expeirence in Las Terranas for half the price.

Actually there were girls out at night in Rumbas and Blue Ice last night so I heard just not in the streets being aggressive.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Adinga;3019759]Does anybody have current information about what's happening on the Strip??

Ill be there Thursday night[/QUOTE]Allegeledy if you go to Rumbas, Blue Ice and Tiki Wiki you'll find discrete action after around 7 pm. There's limited action on the Playa Sosua in the Daytime. You can also go to Flip Flop's bar and Bailees and ask to join certain what's app groups where pictures numbers and prices are exchanged.

This is legal because you have to call the chica and make a private deal with her.

Finally theres always the apps with Tinder and Bumble being best set to Puerta Plata not Sosua per se.

Frankly you could say the Sue is dead simply because none of the defenders is posting this information. But you get a known Sosua skeptic posting in from Colombia.

Full disclosure I know what I know from said what's app groups and discords not from boots on the ground so take it with a grain of salt.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;3019685]Agreed 100%. You said one big / major keyword that' everything, "Ecosystem". This is like removing Shamu including All of the whales out of Seaworld, and still have to audacity to expect visitors and growth in the city because you're bringing a SNAKE show instead LOL. Nah, the restaurants, hundreds of street merchants, the rides, all will be affected and eventually closed down bc people go to Seaworld for the main event. Once you remove it, the entire "Ecosystem" is dead. And you might as well change the name to Snakesword.

Not having girls around as usual pretty much damages the city and they might as well change the name. Because the only reason why Sosua is Sosua, gets on the news, causes drama, increase the north's economy incl real estate pricing, all that shit is because the "working girls" period. Once they take that away the town is dead. All those so called family resorts will be dead on arrival. The govt there and investors are just hungry, greedy but brain-dead apes not realizing why there's flights and traffic in Sosua.

It's a fucking red-light district, one of the oldest in the Caribbean for fucksake. Why is that so hard to see?

Most of the restaurants, casinos, clubs, beach merchants, all are going to be forced to close or move elsewhere.[/QUOTE]If you opened a spot on the strip and expected it to thrive solely on the weekend warriors that's a guy that deserves what happens to them. On here and the other Sosua discussion groups 75% get tired of the Su and move on. Of that 25% who become frequent visitors almost 30% of them either become expats or half pats and stop patronizing the gringo priced strip.

So anyone counting on a small backwater beach town to always remain the same is smoking something strong.

There's two major problems you got weekend warriors who know nothing about the country and people and don't care acting like what they say and want matters. If you live in america you vote barely counts there what you think matters not in the DR.

The other thing is my GDP theory as countries become rich (I start it at 150 Billion GDP) the social safety net gets better and feminism and the " I don't need no Man" thinking increases.

The DR is already almost there with a GDP of 125 Billion once they hit the majic number it'll either be like the Bahamas with pussy imported from other countries (like Haiti) and or major crackdowns and changes in Prostitution laws as there's more money for law enforcement /.

I guess guys think that the current Prostittion laws is because Dominican Men want foreigners to fuck their women. Or maybe it's because they don't have the budget to chase down street working girl when theres major drug gangs and vicious robbers.

If I owned a business I would assume that I had to appeal to everyone from locals to families to mongers.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3019840]Maybe I can help.

We mongers are a diverse lot.

We are the marks, johns and tricks that keep the business going, but some have an ego that puts them above the hookers they pay to get them off. A sense of superiority, when all they have in reality is the price of fucking a hoe.

But when you're in bed exchanging body fluids with a hoe you have no superior morality. The trick is no better than the hoe. She's selling mangoes she gets for free, and finishes up with the money. So in that sense she's ahead in the game.

And if even half the sad tales of rip offs that seem to follow some mongers and their "buddies", LOL, around, she's ahead in the intelligence game too, because there's no rip off, without a sucker!

As to why some detractors seem addicted to spending all that precious time dissing the same old place, out of all the sex tourist destinations in the world, thousands of posts over the years, that's above my pay scale.

But from my experience those jags are born of butt hurt personal experiences, being schooled by a "poor uneducated hoe", and we know that hell hath no fury like a monger scorned!

Over in the Pattaya thread some guy just posted a long diatribe under the heading. [B]Pattaya is over![/B]. LOL.

Best to ignore them, and enjoy our hobby![/QUOTE]Theres also the jaded aspect of it.

You are a long term Sue vet imagine how ridiclous it would sound if someone said "Its now impossible to get pussy in Sosua" When the Army was in the streets you could procure pussy.

To anyone who knows the first thing about mongering the very idea that pussy is hard to find anyplace is laughable.

I lot of people call the USA " The Matrix" or a "sex prision" and the thinking that you could not exchange sex for resources in the states is a tell that that person has not been around women.

Shit the worse thing about being a monger is delevoping the Monger eye because once you do you can't unsee it.

There was a guy on here with thousands of posts and mongered literally all over the world amazed at the fact that it was possible to fuck a manicurist in Santo Domingo Este.

I could questioned if he was on the spectrum but I spent several posts explaining If a manicurist asked playfully if a customer was a sex tourist she was asking not judging.

In this thread someone asked "where the hoes at now? You probably didn't answer because you didn't want to sound condesending.

Just imagine if I asked you that.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3019862]If you opened a spot on the strip and expected it to thrive solely on the weekend warriors that's a guy that deserves what happens to them. On here and the other Sosua discussion groups 75% get tired of the Su and move on. Of that 25% who become frequent visitors almost 30% of them either become expats or half pats and stop patronizing the gringo priced strip.

So anyone counting on a small backwater beach town to always remain the same is smoking something strong.

There's two major problems you got weekend warriors who know nothing about the country and people and don't care acting like what they say and want matters. If you live in america you vote barely counts there what you think matters not in the DR.

The other thing is my GDP theory as countries become rich (I start it at 150 Billion GDP) the social safety net gets better and feminism and the " I don't need no Man" thinking increases..[/QUOTE]Excellent points on the Bahamas comparison. Dr is definitely heading toward that where pussy will be cheaper in Miami.

Honestly you sound like someone who's accepted defeat and already adapting, I mean that in a good way to sound funny but so am I LOL. The changes don't bother me one bit and shit I just came from Africa and never had so much pussy in my life. You have Col, Brazil much closer, OMG. So much availability, unexplored places especially Brazil. Time for us to expend fellas. Fuck the SU and their silly govts. I'm still going to visit as long as putas are avail even if online only, but plenty of other options.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;3019875]Excellent points on the Bahamas comparison. Dr is definitely heading toward that where pussy will be cheaper in Miami.

Honestly you sound like someone who's accepted defeat and already adapting, I mean that in a good way to sound funny but so am I LOL. The changes don't bother me one bit and shit I just came from Africa and never had so much pussy in my life. You have Col, Brazil much closer, OMG. So much availability, unexplored places especially Brazil. Time for us to expend fellas. Fuck the SU and their silly govts. I'm still going to visit as long as putas are avail even if online only, but plenty of other options.[/QUOTE]If you been to Africa you know what I'm talking about. The best place for pussy (to me) in the world is Nairobi Kenya (GDP 124 Billion) no weird ass laws preventing you from getting ass in Kenya.

The DR is small Island so things are going to be relatively expensive there anyway. Add in celebrities now hanging out the Island and prices for everything goes up.

I like the DR not the hugest fan of Sosua itself but personally I think its crazy to hitch your wagon to one place forever.

Its a big world out there explore it.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

Now I am not saying this is a great spot to monger, but what I am saying is we have the power to control the market and get a more rewarding transaction. When my date left I was all smiles. Cause I got more than what I spent. Learn to turn the table. Stop letting p4 p turn you into a fool.

[QUOTE=Kokoss1;3019818]Are you talking about Calle Jamaica if so may we have more details on chica please? Or is it Jamaic Jamaica?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3019882]If you been to Africa you know what I'm talking about. The best place for pussy (to me) in the world is Nairobi Kenya (GDP 124 Billion) no weird ass laws preventing you from getting ass in Kenya.

The DR is small Island so things are going to be relatively expensive there anyway. Add in celebrities now hanging out the Island and prices for everything goes up.

I like the DR not the hugest fan of Sosua itself but personally I think its crazy to hitch your wagon to one place forever.

Its a big world out there explore it.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.[/QUOTE]Nairobi Kenya is where I was indeed. Trip was scheduled for 1 Month, ended up staying 6 Months LOL. So you confirming that my friend means I'm not crazy. Never seen nor experienced anything like it. The SU had some good memories for sure, two hour flights. Shiiiit. But yeah man we've got options for sure.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3019882]If you been to Africa you know what I'm talking about. The best place for pussy (to me) in the world is Nairobi Kenya
The DR is small Island so things are going to be relatively expensive there anyway. Add in celebrities now hanging out the Island and prices for everything goes up
[/QUOTE]What is the price of airfare and travel time to Africa compared with the price to DR from Florida or East Coast USA? If you add up the travel and time away costs, the DR comes out ahead in any accounting.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;3019962]What is the price of airfare and travel time to Africa compared with the price to DR from Florida or East Coast USA? If you add up the travel and time away costs, the DR comes out ahead in any accounting.[/QUOTE]Far be it from me to tell a Man what to do with his time and money. Like Subcommander says Your Time, Your Money, Your Dick, Your call.

Again to the weekend warrior Sosua can't and won't die. Theres a built in market for it.

But that market must and will change. No need to punch the air over it.

Stay and go Digital or leave and go someplace else.

Your call.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;3019685]Agreed 100%. You said one big / major keyword that' everything, "Ecosystem". This is like removing Shamu including All of the whales out of Seaworld, and still have to audacity to expect visitors and growth in the city because you're bringing a SNAKE show instead LOL. Nah, the restaurants, hundreds of street merchants, the rides, all will be affected and eventually closed down bc people go to Seaworld for the main event. Once you remove it, the entire "Ecosystem" is dead. And you might as well change the name to Snakesword.

Not having girls around as usual pretty much damages the city and they might as well change the name. Because the only reason why Sosua is Sosua, gets on the news, causes drama, increase the north's economy incl real estate pricing, all that shit is because the "working girls" period. Once they take that away the town is dead. All those so called family resorts will be dead on arrival. The govt there and investors are just hungry, greedy but brain-dead apes not realizing why there's flights and traffic in Sosua.

It's a fucking red-light district, one of the oldest in the Caribbean for fucksake. Why is that so hard to see?

Most of the restaurants, casinos, clubs, beach merchants, all are going to be forced to close or move elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Yo so off topic you recently wrote a MASTERPIECE detail report in nairobi Kenya. Man you got to tell a detail report of the 3 some night where you had to kick out one of the ladies LOL. I'm a 3 some, 4 some plus guy as I love pleasing multiple ladies at one time but the logistic of bringing it all together can be a nightmare. Gownman1 and Oakie each through the lob for the ladies to come thru and each time it was a make or break segment in my vacation but each time it came thru well. So yeah when you get a chance please share that story. I've found that the best 3 somes is where females pick out the other lady for you to enjoy.

As far as Sosua and the Dominican Republic goes at the fundamental level DR will still be the place to go in the Carribean to fullfill your every erotic desires. Tripp spoke on how he knows a guy that travels the Haitian / DR borders and get sex from fine hunnys dips for 20 bucks. So DR will still be fantasy island for us monger gents to enjoy. Now we just got to be cool and see what they try to do with Sosua. But if we go by past performance everything will workout for the good for us as for those that can't take that long travel across the globe will instead be able to still enjoy that slice of heaven on the island of hispanola, lounging on the beach with a presidente in their hand with a fine chica on their lap.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3019679]
In an uproar saying what? That you opened a business because hookers out in the open drew foreigners there? And now that the hookers are gone no more foreigners are coming and giving you business? You can not be serious about this.[/QUOTE]Cmon Mr. E you know what it is. No females around to patronize your local bar / restaurant but instead have a gang of police officers constantly patrolling your establishment and area as if we we are in a war zone is EXTREMELY bad for ANY business. No bueno hermano.

[QUOTE=Adinga;3019759]Does anybody have current information about what's happening on the Strip??

Ill be there Thursday night[/QUOTE]Yo just do your thing. Attach is photo of when there was a HUGE ordance of NO drinking any alcohol after 2 pm during covid in DR. So what did the bars do, they literally just put poured your beer into a plastic cup and then literally cut out a piece of the table to where you could hide your drink as the police go by. Absolute GENIUS as I was chillen with Oakie and GM1. So yeah don't worry about what's currently going on down there and instead just flow like the ocean and use it to your advantage. Ask your local bar and waitress do they know any ladies that's free to mingle. Once they send you a photo to your liking I would start off asking them what they need for this "spontaneous rendevue" and then undercut the price just to see their response and to see where the market is at. You can always go up if she's your type. Oooh and I would start with toda la noche prices.

BTW if your bar / waitresses sends you a great honey dip don't forget to tip them extra from to time to time as theyll now have extra incentive to keep supplying you with good quality chicas. Have fun and please hit us back with a report on your latest sosua adventure.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;3020015]Yo just do your thing. Attach is photo of when there was a HUGE ordance of NO drinking any alcohol after 2 pm during covid in DR. So what did the bars do, they literally just put poured your beer into a plastic cup and then literally cut out a piece of the table to where you could hide your drink as the police go by. Absolute GENIUS as I was chillen with Oakie and GM1.[/QUOTE]Just one of the things I love about living in DR is I don't have Big Brother Wolf Blitzer glaring at me from every public place, predicting doom and gloom 24/7.

We do have a few wannabe's here though on ISG who seem to use the same failed crystal ball. Like any change is negative, and even maybe the end of life as we know it! But without change we would still be living in caves!

I put "End of Sosua", in the same filing cabinet as "catastrophic climate change", "end of democracy", 'stock markets will tank". "Doomsday Clock at one minute to midnight". There's a lot of self styled gurus out there masquerading as "experts", but they are invariably wrong. LOL. They are observers and critics, not players.

Which means here's a lot of dupes out there, who don't trust their own eyes and prefer to listen to others. Just ripe for the picking, by savvy street hoes!

Compared to the rest of the so-called enlightened, developed world, it is a stress free environment.

Happy, helpful folks for the most part, and lots of beautiful young ladies.

Highly recommended!

(As usual IMHO, and YMMV).

I've been to Nairobi plenty of times let a lone Kenya and unfortunately your boy been locked up on soliciting more than 3 times. Prostitution is illegal in Kenya the laws are kinda weird but they turn a blind eye to shit in the night clubs. One the streets is a different story sometimes the police even have decoys out in certain areas of Nairobi. They was being cool about the shit only just doing their job. The most I ever had to pay for 6000 bob to the court in the morning. They seem to copy more and more American laws over there.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3019882]If you been to Africa you know what I'm talking about. The best place for pussy (to me) in the world is Nairobi Kenya (GDP 124 Billion) no weird ass laws preventing you from getting ass in Kenya.

The DR is small Island so things are going to be relatively expensive there anyway. Add in celebrities now hanging out the Island and prices for everything goes up.

I like the DR not the hugest fan of Sosua itself but personally I think its crazy to hitch your wagon to one place forever.

Its a big world out there explore it.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3020646]I've been to Nairobi plenty of times let a lone Kenya and unfortunately your boy been locked up on soliciting more than 3 times. Prostitution is illegal in Kenya the laws are kinda weird but they turn a blind eye to shit in the night clubs. One the streets is a different story sometimes the police even have decoys out in certain areas of Nairobi. They was being cool about the shit only just doing their job. The most I ever had to pay for 6000 bob to the court in the morning. They seem to copy more and more American laws over there.[/QUOTE]You, therefore, have a record in Kenya. Does that affect your returning to the country?

I agree Kenya so far has been the cheapest and most rewarding country to get pu**y. I stayed for 90 days and 60 days never paid for pussy. Just offered gifts less than $20. My 3 some one girl stayed the full day and in the morning I called another girl. She came over and after they felt each other out they began passionately kissing each other. About 4 pm the girl overnight had to leave and I continue with the other girl. Cost me two gifts under $20 that they loved. They were two attractive college graduates. I miss that country. But true mongers need to explore. Thats what motivates us LOL. Ghana next LOL.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;3019962]What is the price of airfare and travel time to Africa compared with the price to DR from Florida or East Coast USA? If you add up the travel and time away costs, the DR comes out ahead in any accounting.[/QUOTE]

If it was Uganda it might probably would've affected me.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3020740]You, therefore, have a record in Kenya. Does that affect your returning to the country?[/QUOTE]

Monday picked my girl up in Santiago and we headed to Cabarete. Stopped in Sosua on the way about 8 pm. Dead with a few police.

Tuesday we hung out at Sosua Beach. Plenty of people, which tells me Sosua is not dying, only in your face mongering is dying. There are definitely families and non-mongers there. Paid 200 pesos for 1 chair because we would be in the water the entire time, 200 pesos for 1 umbrella, 550 pesos for 1 coco loco, and 300 pesos for a small Presidente. It is funny how prices in Sosua tend to be twice those of Cabarete. Even funnier how when you go to Punta Rucia those prices are even twice those of Sosua. Drinks are 800 pesos there.

Finished at the beach and went back to out condo in Cabarete and got in the pool. Went for drinks that night and met a cat from Canada who was at the bar flirting with the bartender. I told him he should come back to get her when she got off. He got her whatsapp but when we met up the next day he said he did not go back for her. He said he would be there until Friday so I told him to sign up on Bumble and he would have all the chicks he could stand.

We left the bar and went to eat at an Italian spot. Finished there and drove back to Sosua at 11 pm. We parked in front of Clasico and got out to walk down the strip and around the block. There were 8 cops scattered in 3 groups. My girl said good evening as we passed each group.

At Kim there 4 chicks. 2 chicks in Blue Ice. 3 chicks outside of New Garden. Sitting outside at Bollywood Bliss there was an American chick taking on the phone and eating or drinking. Then there were 2 chicks in Paradise City. (None of the chicks mentioned that I would fuck with Old Kool's dick.).

All the places were devoid of mongers. One place had an American guy who lives in Santo Domingo talking to some other guy. He was saying that when his friends that live in Sosua come to the capital they stay at his place, but when he goes to Sosua he gets a hotel.

We saw someone come out of Hard Rock so I knew the door was open although they were not open for business yet. I told my girl we would go in and look around until someone kicked us out. Like 10 seconds after we got in a chick came from the back saying they are not yet open to the public. I said that is okay, we are not public; we are private. Then she told my girlfriend how much she liked her outfit and they got to talking about clothes.

We left the Hard Rock and passed by the Santana Barbershop. My girl said it is the barbershop that started in her city where you go get a haircut and the girls shake their asses on you. Then we went into the sex shop to look around. I saw a pocket pussy and on the box was written test. I told the cashier that I would go ahead and test it out. She said not in here. You test that shit at home. My girl went ahead and bought some little bullshit for 200 pesos. Then we jumped in the car and headed back to Cabarete.

In conclusion, Sosua will not die. In all of these places that have turned monger unfriendly, mongers have always overestimated their worth. Nobody is out on the streets at night like before, but in the daytime Sosua has plenty of normal people traffic. If you go there and want girls, then online will be your best bet.

Just more pics from Sosua.

Always good to see a boots-on-the ground report on Sosua, especially one from an Enternational monger, who spends a lot of time promoting destinations other than DR.

3 visits to Sosua in two days, says a lot!

That 2 block strip and beach obviously still attracts mongers, and their girls. The conclusion? Sosua will not die!

The investors in the new hotels and restaurants will be sure to take some comfort from that!

See'Mon. Down! Bring your honeypot!

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3019867]Theres also the jaded aspect of it.

You are a long term Sue vet imagine how ridiclous it would sound if someone said "Its now impossible to get pussy in Sosua" When the Army was in the streets you could procure pussy.

To anyone who knows the first thing about mongering the very idea that pussy is hard to find anyplace is laughable.

I lot of people call the USA " The Matrix" or a "sex prision" and the thinking that you could not exchange sex for resources in the states is a tell that that person has not been around women.

Shit the worse thing about being a monger is delevoping the Monger eye because once you do you can't unsee it.

There was a guy on here with thousands of posts and mongered literally all over the world amazed at the fact that it was possible to fuck a manicurist in Santo Domingo Este.

I could questioned if he was on the spectrum but I spent several posts explaining If a manicurist asked playfully if a customer was a sex tourist she was asking not judging..[/QUOTE]LOL. I like the term Halfpat. I guess that is what I am. I am not in Sosua right now but I am fielding texts from Dominican girls every day. I imagine 3/4 of the foreigners who own property in Sosua are doing the same. I am pretty sure I am not the only dirty old gringo these girls are fucking. There are still going to be a lot of women who are on the game in the area. The street meat is really only the tip of the iceberg you see. It will bob to the surface again by November. If it doesn't. Oh well. Like you say. Once you have the eye, you can always put up a rabbit.

A few locals sure. The place is dead. Weekend warriors made the place work. E might go there to do tinder but that is a joke. No girls no show of guys. More then the 2 blocks were supported by their dollar. Sosua has nothing special to draw tourism . Builds all the hotel they want

[QUOTE=Oakie;3021039]Always good to see a boots-on-the ground report on Sosua, especially one from an Enternational monger, who spends a lot of time promoting destinations other than DR.

3 visits to Sosua in two days, says a lot!

That 2 block strip and beach obviously still attracts mongers, and their girls. The conclusion? Sosua will not die!

The investors in the new hotels and restaurants will be sure to take some comfort from that!

See'Mon. Down! Bring your honeypot![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;3021140]A few locals sure. The place is dead. Weekend warriors made the place work. E might go there to do tinder but that is a joke. No girls no show of guys. More then the 2 blocks were supported by their dollar. Sosua has nothing special to draw tourism . Builds all the hotel they want[/QUOTE]Damn Old Kool, you sound like a jilted lover. Like Sosua turned its back on you and won't give you no more pussy. Cheer up man. There are other and better places to monger.

I would have kept the training wheels on my bike for the rest of my life too had my dad not taken them off. Sometimes that baby bird has to be pushed out of the nest to learn to fly on its own. Spread your wings and catch that wind man.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3020941]Just more pics from Sosua.[/QUOTE]Your pic of the New Garden hotel brings back memories of my first and only 10 day stay to Sousa back in 2016 I recall, so 9 years ago but since then living full time in Medellin, Colombia.

My stay was good overall, a shout out to the guests at New Garden, all rooms were filled with Black guys, I was the only white gringo in the hotel but they accepted this very tall European white guy like I was there friend, good vibes all around.

Much has changed with the P4P scene in the Sue being as void as can be, sure online is fine but for us mongers it takes the 'sizzle' out of it.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3021142]Damn Old Kool, you sound like a jilted lover. Like Sosua turned its back on you and won't give you no more pussy. Cheer up man. There are other and better places to monger.

I would have kept the training wheels on my bike for the rest of my life too had my dad not taken them off. Sometimes that baby bird has to be pushed out of the nest to learn to fly on its own. Spread your wings and catch that wind man.[/QUOTE]That's the issue the old adult disneyland of Sosua (and frankly the Island as a whole) is over.

Any Dominican Vet should have a plethora of hoes on deck and they should be able to introduce you to new hoes.

You just lose the window shopping / Junk grabbing "Freaky Freaky papi" aspect.

If I was a Dominican even if I owned a business on PC I'd want the hoes off the street.

The DR is still the DR and Sosua is still Sosua so just use the digital game and move on.

If you really need the 24 hour party vibes you could go to Pattaya for that.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

I did not go to Sosua only for the girls although they were a major component. I enjoyed the brotherhood of hundreds of bros hanging out. The place was geared for like minded men having fun. I am not sure of any place in the western hemisphere where black men were so catered to. I know there are many places you can go and have a great time. Sosua provided a unique atmosphere. I have a strong roster of ladies who satisfy my sexual needs. I have been all over the DR for many years but have not found a better atmosphere for my activities. At this stage of my life it is not about numbers it is quality of experience. Sosua exceeded my needs. The beaches, food, and brotherhood were the icing on the cake. For me and many other guys this is a tremendous lost. Being a passport is nothing to be ashamed of. It is a good response to living a sex desert. As far as moving on not a problem but replacing the Sosua vibe that's a problem.

[QUOTE=OldKool;3021313]I did not go to Sosua only for the girls although they were a major component. I enjoyed the brotherhood of hundreds of bros hanging out.[/QUOTE]You are in luck. Police are not bothering the guys, so you can still go there and enjoy the brotherhood if you want.

[QUOTE=OldKool;3021313]I did not go to Sosua only for the girls although they were a major component. I enjoyed the brotherhood of hundreds of bros hanging out. The place was geared for like minded men having fun. I am not sure of any place in the western hemisphere where black men were so catered to. I know there are many places you can go and have a great time. Sosua provided a unique atmosphere. I have a strong roster of ladies who satisfy my sexual needs. I have been all over the DR for many years but have not found a better atmosphere for my activities. At this stage of my life it is not about numbers it is quality of experience. Sosua exceeded my needs. The beaches, food, and brotherhood were the icing on the cake. For me and many other guys this is a tremendous lost. Being a passport is nothing to be ashamed of. It is a good response to living a sex desert. As far as moving on not a problem but replacing the Sosua vibe that's a problem.[/QUOTE]I agree Sosua was definitely a place where Black Men were seen heard and catered to like no other place.

I don't want to get racial but theres a love / hate thing with Black Men globably The problem is that Sosua is too small and Brothers dominated the place.

Right now there's an IG page called DR Black owned You could come to Sosua and spend 100% of non working girl money with Black American Men and if you dealt with Haitians you could in theory spend zero dollars on Dominicans.

See how that sounds then add in Brothers riding ATV's, Loud ass Villa parties, I remember one time I was in Bailees at 1030 am eating breakfast and dudes started shouting Blue Phi! You Know!

Shit there\s a distiction between an Omega Man and a Q Dog. I thought dudes was going to start stepping right there.

Shit was barely tolerated at Freaknik you go to a whole different country and you're going to be seen as an interloper.

And lets not even talk about the crash out content mongers trying to flim chicas in bed with them.

I\m not even as old as you but damn if I hang around the brothers I'd rather hear "Still Waters" over "Dior".

If the raids hadn't happened the quality right now outside of the casino would be Parque Indepencia quality at best.

Outside of Tikiwiki you see the uniform of Tubi's Tank Tops Yoga Pants and slides.

The talent did pick up on Labor Day weekend on but if you went right now the quality would be low.

That's why I always preferred the larger lower key El Conde you still got "The March of (occasional) Dymes" to window shop and gawk at and the Bors would be chopping it up while posted up in Paco's best of both worlds you have the brotherhood without total culture displacement.

Additionally Almost half the Population lives in and around the Santo Domingo area so a good number of everyone's favoritas lived in Las Minas anyway.

Nothing lasts forever and all good things come to an end. Theres old school Sue vets that said shit went down here after the classicos era.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3021350]I agree Sosua was definitely a place where Black Men were seen heard and catered to like no other place.

I don't want to get racial but theres a love / hate thing with Black Men globably The problem is that Sosua is too small and Brothers dominated the place.

Right now there's an IG page called DR Black owned You could come to Sosua and spend 100% of non working girl money with Black American Men and if you dealt with Haitians you could in theory spend zero dollars on Dominicans..[/QUOTE]"Don't want to be racial, but. " There's a lot of stereotyping there. LOL.

We all get a different vibe from the places we visit.

In my case, being "white", the only problems I have had in 17 years have been with white mongers with attitudes. Some I actually encouraged to come down and regretted. Reported on them here.

So we obviously have a difference of opinion.

The number of fellow monger "black" brothers who enjoy Sosua would tend to support my view?

As I said before DR is the least racist country I have ever spent time in. Some visitors excepted!

[QUOTE=Oakie;3021459]"Don't want to be racial, but. " There's a lot of stereotyping there. LOL.

We all get a different vibe from the places we visit.

In my case, being "white", the only problems I have had in 17 years have been with white mongers with attitudes. Some I actually encouraged to come down and regretted. Reported on them here.

So we obviously have a difference of opinion.

The number of fellow monger "black" brothers who enjoy Sosua would tend to support my view?

As I said before DR is the least racist country I have ever spent time in. Some visitors excepted![/QUOTE]That message was specifically to Old Kool. Obviously anyone could chime in but basically I was saying that Sosua is too small.

If the action centerpoint moved back to SD no one would have a problem with it.

Besides Santo Domingo is kinda like Dykeman in New York as it is.

Again as far as being "least racist" Depends on how you define "racist" Will a Black American experience "mirco agressions" Probably not especially in Sosua but I never saw a Garbage collector in SD that wasn't Black.

You see the people and theres a mix turn on the TV and you would think you were in Spain.

Same thing for Colombia but its more stark in The DR because the per capita population is way more Black in the DR than Colombia.

Ask a Afro Dominican if the DR is less racist they might see things differently.

It doesn't concern the vistor and kinda outside the scope of this board /.

Lets see if this post stays up.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3021459]"Don't want to be racial, but. " There's a lot of stereotyping there. LOL.

We all get a different vibe from the places we visit.

In my case, being "white", the only problems I have had in 17 years have been with white mongers with attitudes. Some I actually encouraged to come down and regretted. Reported on them here.

So we obviously have a difference of opinion.

The number of fellow monger "black" brothers who enjoy Sosua would tend to support my view?

As I said before DR is the least racist country I have ever spent time in. Some visitors excepted![/QUOTE]I'm not dominican or Colombian but If I could choose where to be born as a Black Man I'd rather be born in Colombia than the DR. Colombia has a Black Veep much more Afro Dominican "Republic" doesn't There President is of Lebanese heritage.

Be of a certain skin color in the DR and your heritage and citizenship gets called into question.

In Colombia there's a DEI set aside Congressman position for Afro Colombian and a holiday known as "The Day of the Races" In the DR all Dominicans are equal but as in any place some or more equal than others.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

Final point about Sosua and "Passport Bros".

It's one thing to profit off of tourism and everyone in Sosua benefitted from sex tourists of all stripes but there's a " Make Sosua Great Again" aspect.

You could be owner of every villa in Ocean Village or Residential Hispanola and still be annoyed at hearing way more Rap and Reggae than Reggaeton and Bachata.

And getting Shrimp and Grits before you get tres Golpes.

Its a Pride issue. You get 300 to 400 dudes down for Super Bowl weekend in a town of 15000 people and that's a huge number. The fact that the Super Bowl is more watched than the World series is a problem.

You get 4000 Tuorists in a city of 5 million and that's still a drop in the bucket in comparison. No group of "outsiders" is going to change the culture.

Thats what I was referring to.

Imagie a Man that was brought out of Triple Darkness being against Passport Bros.

Peace to the Gods and Earths ( and all the people of the universe)

Hope this helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3021476]You see the people and theres a mix turn on the TV and you would think you were in Spain.

Same thing for Colombia but its more stark in The DR because the per capita population is way more Black in the DR than Colombia.

Ask a Afro Dominican if the DR is less racist they might see things differently.

It doesn't concern the vistor and kinda outside the scope of this board /.[/QUOTE]Exactly. And Brazil as well. We show up to these places with money, so it is not expected for foreigners to experience any racism. But feel free to ask a poor Haitian's opinion of the racism in the Dominican Republic.

I viewed this video today. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0ENyr5SCLc[/URL] gave me flash backs of Sosua in its hay day. Scores of ladies strutting their stuff. If size matters Punta Cana may be big enough to adsorb the pass port bros. I am seeing more than enough action to keep the fellows entertained. The women were dressed to seduce and the quality was very decent. I figure it will take a few years before they crash it.

Looking at the Pudo TV creep cam chanel even he's over Sosua.

Yes Punta Cana is big enough to accomodate the passport bros and then some.

Theres tons of Punta Cana channels that talk about real estate not Infinity and Drink point.

The action is a night when the "good people" are asleep so if you absolutely need the window shopping aspect look at the hoes in the club or go to the ajoining strip club /.

Not to be a hater but I kinda don't understand how important looking at some plastic asses at the club is for some people.

If this is you Punta Cana is the number one destination theres action on El Conde in the daytime. Then there's Parque lleras in Medellin and the clock tower in Cartagena.

Further out theres Beach Road in Pattaya which is give the most one for one example of the old Pedro Clisante fish market.

Or you could just watch creep cam videos from home and hit the apps to get girls.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

Trip.

[QUOTE=OldKool;3021535]I viewed this video today. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0ENyr5SCLc[/URL] gave me flash backs of Sosua in its hay day. Scores of ladies strutting their stuff. If size matters Punta Cana may be big enough to adsorb the pass port bros.[/QUOTE]Man let me tell you something. If those folks are not having that shit in Sosua then they are damn sure not going to have it in Punta Cana. That place is the country's bread and butter.

I just saw the other day how in LOS Angeles they are now trying to bust up the prostitution that has been going on on Figueroa for decades. You saying do the shit in Punta Cana is like you saying move it to Beverly Hills for LA. Mongers just live in their own little world. There are thousands more tourist families in Punta Cana than ever stepped foot in Sosua. Have some common sense.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3021478]I'm not dominican or Colombian but If I could choose where to be born as a Black Man I'd rather be born in Colombia than the DR. Colombia has a Black Veep much more Afro Dominican "Republic" doesn't There President is of Lebanese heritage.[/QUOTE]And the so-called racist "disunited States? Gave the top job in the entire world to a "black person", twice! LOL.

[QUOTE]Be of a certain skin color in the DR and your heritage and citizenship gets called into question.[/QUOTE]LOL, It's part of normal social interaction for most travelers. "Where you from buddy?

[QUOTE]In Colombia there's a DEI set aside Congressman position for Afro Colombian and a holiday known as "The Day of the Races" In the DR all Dominicans are equal but as in any place some or more equal than others.[/QUOTE]That's life, see above!

I wouldn't pay to fuck a Philippina, or a Thai girl, but will mortgage the farm for a black, latino, or Japanese. Is it racism? Or is it no more significant than the choice of liquor, wine, or a car?

Racism is an excuse for many social problems, mentioned above. But it often obscures real racism and is not helpful in dealing with it.

No need to bring racism into a sex forum, unless you believe a DICK can be racist, LOL.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3021639]And the so-called racist "disunited States? Gave the top job in the entire world to a "black person", twice! LOL.

LOL, It's part of normal social interaction for most travelers. "Where you from buddy?

That's life, see above!

I wouldn't pay to fuck a Philippina, or a Thai girl, but will mortgage the farm for a black, latino, or Japanese. Is it racism? Or is it no more significant than the choice of liquor, wine, or a car?

Racism is an excuse for many social problems, mentioned above. But it often obscures real racism and is not helpful in dealing with it.

No need to bring racism into a sex forum, unless you believe a DICK can be racist, LOL.[/QUOTE]This is way way way off topic of the board and you're definitely a Sosua expat because they all complain and criticize Sosua Until someone suggests that tourists go eslewhere.

On the racial front perception is everything so If Black people generally agree that something is racist then allow them to think that.

I asked Subcommander why he goes back and forth with people on the board and he says he helps him communicate better because the knee jerk reaction would be to say "Stay out of Black Folks Business".

But this board isn't to discuss Black people's business.

To provide a proper shit sandwhich I will say I applaud you and the Educated travelers comments standing up for the "old Sosua" and the passport bros because if you go to certain forums championing the clean up and its not because theyre against Mongering they're against a certain kind of Monger.

If you wanted to go further in tinfoil hat range you could say that this was a problem that only needed solving when a certain kind of tourist showed up. That might be seen as racist right there.

John of Casa de Comprai is in the pro clean up pro certain kind of Monger Camp and he said when Jet Blue and Sprit started flying regularly and the European Airlines changed routes and the Greek crisis started Europeans started traveling to Greece and Turkey because it was cheaper and closer.

Guys from New York did the same.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3021589]Man let me tell you something. If those folks are not having that shit in Sosua then they are damn sure not going to have it in Punta Cana. That place is the country's bread and butter.

I just saw the other day how in LOS Angeles they are now trying to bust up the prostitution that has been going on on Figueroa for decades. You saying do the shit in Punta Cana is like you saying move it to Beverly Hills for LA. Mongers just live in their own little world. There are thousands more tourist families in Punta Cana than ever stepped foot in Sosua. Have some common sense.[/QUOTE]The baby is not going to be thrown out with the bathwater.

Its one thing to get rid of the Tubi and Tanktop wearing crowd on PC it's quite another thing to get rid of a certain Hotel in Costembar that provides jobs and pays big money in bribes to stay open and out of the way .

Just like the creep cammers put fig on blast so something had to be done the same can be said for Sosua.

Pudo TV and Ocho is kinda the same in that regard.

Same thing in Punta Cana Pudo is fliming the scene ouside of a nightclub complex. That's Cardi B's favorite place to hang out in the DR maybe he was trying to get a glimpse of her.

Its totally legal and the women don't feel a ways because who says that they're hoes?

Dude isn't even fliming Drink Point like that and Drink point is at least 30% non Hoes especially if you're counting the non Dominicans. There's a certain gas station at night where there's flashes of action but that's it nothing to have a "crackdown" that will mess with the image of the city over.

Again It's hard for me to grasp that looking at altered asses that is generally unavailible to you or if availible being quoted 300 bucks short time is appealing to guys who have whole rosters of chicks availiable for 2000 pesos but some Men require teasing.

Actually I know why looking at chicas is the cheapest entertainment in the world.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3021670]This is way way way off topic of the board and you're definitely a Sosua expat because they all complain and criticize Sosua Until someone suggests that tourists go eslewhere.[/QUOTE]Not the ones I know who choose to actually live there. Doesn't make sense.

Are you sure about that?

[QUOTE]On the racial front perception is everything so If Black people generally agree that something is racist then allow them to think that.[/QUOTE]Everybody is free to believe what they want.

[QUOTE]I asked Subcommander why he goes back and forth with people on the board and he says he helps him communicate better because the knee jerk reaction would be to say "Stay out of Black Folks Business".

But this board isn't to discuss Black people's business.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Over and out!

Do colonization every country has a racial in this country you don't have to be Haitian to be despised. I've plenty of Dominicans who are disgusted about lying in the bed with a black man or woman. It doesn't matter if they're mixed with indigenous or mulatoo / a. I think that if that place was a white majority visiting that town it never would've happened. And not only I know a lot of Dominicans who hate black Americans. They don't want them even dating nor impregnating the Afro Dominican women. I know some who doesn't like the fact that black guys got money in their country Afro's don't have shit. I'm generational of biracial I have neither a recent black nor white person in my family past my great grand parents. Most people who are of my ethnicity don't identify as black nor white but of a completely different race. Unfortunately that's the shit Spaniards introduced to this world folks still follow. So yes Dominicans of all races voice their opinions to me because historically people of my background will never identify as black and have no problems hearing BS.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3021459]"Don't want to be racial, but. " There's a lot of stereotyping there. LOL.

We all get a different vibe from the places we visit.

In my case, being "white", the only problems I have had in 17 years have been with white mongers with attitudes. Some I actually encouraged to come down and regretted. Reported on them here.

So we obviously have a difference of opinion.

The number of fellow monger "black" brothers who enjoy Sosua would tend to support my view?

As I said before DR is the least racist country I have ever spent time in. Some visitors excepted![/QUOTE]

The clubs in PC have been there for a few years. They jump at night and are not seen by the all included crowd. Five hundred troops showing up to move a few Hos would be a very bad look. The clubs are own by Dominicans who have connections. I think PC will have a good run.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3021589]Man let me tell you something. If those folks are not having that shit in Sosua then they are damn sure not going to have it in Punta Cana. That place is the country's bread and butter.

I just saw the other day how in LOS Angeles they are now trying to bust up the prostitution that has been going on on Figueroa for decades. You saying do the shit in Punta Cana is like you saying move it to Beverly Hills for LA. Mongers just live in their own little world. There are thousands more tourist families in Punta Cana than ever stepped foot in Sosua. Have some common sense.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3021675]Its totally legal and the women don't feel a ways because who says that they're hoes?[/QUOTE]Generally anyone that has been there more than 1 hour. The cops are there everyday. They see who is there everyday. They know any chick that is not an employee of any nearby business is not going to that same area every night not to be a hoe. You can go almost any place on earth and know the chick standing around idle scantily clad is a hoe waiting for a customer.

Westerners get caught up in legality whereas in lesser developed countries something may be legal but there are still ways to discourage it. For example in Thailand it is legal to sell ass, but at certain times at Nana in Bangkok and Beach Road in Pattaya, the police will come and round up chicks arresting them for loitering, not prostitution. And that is a $30 fine which most can not afford to pay. So it deters chicks that want to go out to those places looking for customers.

If it is so legal, and who is to say they are hoes, on what basis are the cops arresting chicks in Sosua?

As for people saying who they would not pay to fuck, I know a preacher that went down to Rio for the first time saying how he was not going to be buying pussy and what is the first thing that he did? Buy some pussy. Everybody says what they will not do when they have never been to a place. But boots on the ground will tell an entirely different story.

Met a guy today here in Philippines that said before he went to Thailand he had no idea there were chicks there built like that. I said most people don't. They just go by a stereotype they heard about or a youtube video they saw, which are no substitute for having boots on the ground.

[QUOTE=OldKool;3021535]I viewed this video today. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0ENyr5SCLc[/URL] gave me flash backs of Sosua in its hay day. Scores of ladies strutting their stuff. If size matters Punta Cana may be big enough to adsorb the pass port bros. I am seeing more than enough action to keep the fellows entertained. The women were dressed to seduce and the quality was very decent. I figure it will take a few years before they crash it.[/QUOTE]I am quite sure they're not cracking down on Sosua for the same thing to just resurge in PC. What happens in a club is one thing, but a street littered with working girls and creep camers in PC of all places is a worse look for them, and they will act sooner than later.

Maybe they could also bring down the Quad bikes and hasten the crack down. LOL.

Why can't folks vacation and have fun without the noise and "in your face" displays?

*Due to colonization every country a issue with racism*.

*I've met plenty of Dominicans*.

*That place referring to Sosua*.

Unfortunately my English is not the best.

One thing I want to point out you noticed how some guys came on the board in the part voice their opinions about how it's too black in Sosua as in women being on those guys. There's a lot of Dominican people who feels the same way and when I mean a lot I'm referring to more than 50%. However, no country is perfect nor is there a perfect person.

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3021707]Do colonization every country has a racial in this country you don't have to be Haitian to be despised. I've plenty of Dominicans who are disgusted about lying in the bed with a black man or woman. It doesn't matter if they're mixed with indigenous or mulatoo / a. I think that if that place was a white majority visiting that town it never would've happened. And not only I know a lot of Dominicans who hate black Americans. They don't want them even dating nor impregnating the Afro Dominican women. I know some who doesn't like the fact that black guys got money in their country Afro's don't have shit. I'm generational of biracial I have neither a recent black nor white person in my family past my great grand parents. Most people who are of my ethnicity don't identify as black nor white but of a completely different race. Unfortunately that's the shit Spaniards introduced to this world folks still follow. So yes Dominicans of all races voice their opinions to me because historically people of my background will never identify as black and have no problems hearing BS.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3021733]Generally anyone that has been there more than 1 hour. The cops are there everyday. They see who is there everyday. They know any chick that is not an employee of any nearby business is not going to that same area every night not to be a hoe. You can go almost any place on earth and know the chick standing around idle scantily clad is a hoe waiting for a customer.

Westerners get caught up in legality whereas in lesser developed countries something may be legal but there are still ways to discourage it. For example in Thailand it is legal to sell ass, but at certain times at Nana in Bangkok and Beach Road in Pattaya, the police will come and round up chicks arresting them for loitering, not prostitution. And that is a $30 fine which most can not afford to pay. So it deters chicks that want to go out to those places looking for customers.

If it is so legal, and who is to say they are hoes, on what basis are the cops arresting chicks in Sosua?

As for people saying who they would not pay to fuck, I know a preacher that went down to Rio for the first time saying how he was not going to be buying pussy and what is the first thing that he did? Buy some pussy. Everybody says what they will not do when they have never been to a place. But boots on the ground will tell an entirely different story.

Met a guy today here in Philippines that said before he went to Thailand he had no idea there were chicks there built like that. I said most people don't. They just go by a stereotype they heard about or a youtube video they saw, which are no substitute for having boots on the ground.[/QUOTE]Correct they could easiily get the hoes interspered out of there If they wanted to.

To go full Tinfoil hat Everybody Hates Passport Bros. Sosua delevoped a reputation as a place to watch the Super Bowl but I don't think that the Dominican Republic as a whole is discriminatory of money.

If Pudo can\t flim fat butts going into the club then maybe Abinder is going full Bukele. Time will tell.

You got youtubers still advocating for the clean up and against and theyre not arrested despite technically being illegal immigrants so with a little descretion and and acknowledging cultural sensibilites I think guys can compete to pay those fat asses 300 bucks in peace.

We shall see.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Adinga;3019759]Does anybody have current information about what's happening on the Strip??

Ill be there Thursday night[/QUOTE]Yo Adinga what's the word? We got insight from Mr. E report (Nice photos BTW) now I'm curious to hear hows your latest trip down in Sosua is going.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;3021896]Yo Adinga what's the word? We got insight from Mr. E report (Nice photos BTW) now I'm curious to hear hows your latest trip down in Sosua is going.[/QUOTE]Me too, but good, bad or ugly, keep in mind that the report will be based on a summer doldrums, hurricane (IRMA) season, when Sosua effectively on summer hours.

At least it will be a personal experience, not some made up third hand bullshit from "preachers" and "buddies" he knows, who he presents as gospel, but "conveniently" cannot be questioned here on ISG about their experience. Same with all his stories about rip-offs.

Now, our prolific critic of all things Sosua (who can't stay away from the place, or stop writing about it) claims to know what makes my dick hard. LOL.

Like in my world travels, and long time residence in Toronto, a favorite destination of Thai's and Filipinos I've met and fucked quite a few, along with Chinese, and a couple long relationships with a International Kazakhstan lawyer, and a Japanese Journalist student / part time stripper (a master of disguise). Toronto has an annual summer Caribana Festival so I also fucked Latinos (and I was hooked) before I discovered Sosua. LOL I don't argue with my dick!

[I]"The Filipino community in Toronto is one of the largest in Canada, with a significant presence in North York, particularly around Bathurst Street and Wilson Avenue.
Little Manila:
This area is a hub for Filipino businesses and cultural activities, often referred to as Little Manila on The Canadian Encyclopedia.
Mother Tongue:
In 2011, over 70,000 people in Toronto listed Tagalog as their mother tongue, with concentrations in Scarborough and North York.
Community Organizations:
The Filipino community in Toronto is actively involved in various organizations and initiatives, working to address issues such as professional recognition and civic participation.
Thai Community and Cuisine:
Strong Presence:
Toronto has a thriving Thai community and a wide variety of Thai restaurants, reflecting the popularity of Thai cuisine."[/I]

Folks can choose to believe third hand anecdotal gossip, but personal experience is key to credibility.

As usual IMHO!

[QUOTE=Oakie;3021902]At least it will be a personal experience, not some made up third hand bullshit from "preachers" and "buddies" he knows, who he presents as gospel, but "conveniently" cannot be questioned here on ISG about their experience. Same with all his stories about rip-offs.[/QUOTE]So in your opinion, no one can post accurate information about Sosua unless they are speaking from personal [I]boots on the ground[/I] recent experience?

[B]Were you operating by those principles when you were posting in the Thailand Threads? Didn't you say you never visited there?[/B]

Now I have not visited Sosua for a while. But I make that clear to everyone when I post. It's been 2. 5+ years. I cannot say anything about what is ACTUALLY happening on the ground there. ISG, YouTube and my friends who are actually on the ground living there keep me informed. But I am unable to form an opinion unless I actually visiting the place at the time? I challenge everyone to state when the last time it was that they were actually in Sosua if that is the standard for being able to post their opinion of the place. That's not going to work. Some of the most prolific posters have not been there for quite a while.

This is actually called [B]Sousa Reports[/B]. Given the nature of the majority of the posts that happen here. Perhaps a [B]Sosua Lounge and Chat[/B] thread is also needed.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3021902]Thai Community and Cuisine: Strong Presence: Toronto has a thriving Thai community and a wide variety of Thai restaurants, reflecting the popularity of Thai cuisine.[/QUOTE]I had been to Thai Restaurants in the Dis-United States of America before I visited Thailand. Authentic Thai Food (from different regions of the country) served here (I am writing this from Thailand) is NOTHING like what was served to me in the Thai Restaurants in the Dis-United States of America. Don't get me started on the girls.

[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]

[QUOTE=Oakie;3021902]Folks can choose to believe third hand anecdotal gossip, but personal experience is key to credibility. As usual IMHO![/QUOTE]You as individual who has never visited Thailand posting in the Thailand threads should be very aware of that. I on the other hand have been to Sosua at least a half dozen times. Spending up to a month at a time. Along with actually living full-time in the Dominican Republic for 10+ years. Owner of assets in the Dominican Republic and all that.

I think Sosua is dead for mongers. More cruise lines. ARod billion dollar project in Rio San Juan combines with Vin Diesel studio and hotel projects. These are huge projects that have three attention of the DR powers. Locals who depended on chicas business are toast. The girls know they are no longer welcomed and are not coming. WE can shut down this forum.

[QUOTE=OldKool;3021950]I think Sosua is dead for mongers. More cruise lines. ARod billion dollar project in Rio San Juan combines with Vin Diesel studio and hotel projects. These are huge projects that have three attention of the DR powers. Locals who depended on chicas business are toast. The girls know they are no longer welcomed and are not coming. WE can shut down this forum.[/QUOTE]My experience is that Sosua has been on the decline for a while now, it was only a matter of time. I have nice memories of banging the hottest black hookers on the planet (especially in Classicos in the early days). I mean that, hotter even than Brazilian and Colombian Negras.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3022322]My experience is that Sosua has been on the decline for a while now, it was only a matter of time. I have nice memories of banging the hottest black hookers on the planet (especially in Classicos in the early days). I mean that, hotter even than Brazilian and Colombian Negras.[/QUOTE]I can assure you that there are still plenty of hot black hookers in Sosua and DR generally.

You just don't see hot black hookers strolling the 2 block strip anymore with the skanks.

Tough for the skank market, and their clients, but no real change for the connoisseur who gets his ass off off the Rumba and Bar Central barstool!

The big change is in how and where to meet them.

Those skanks and chicas from all over the Island drew men from all over the world. You live in Sosua and had stopped doing what us weekend warriors pursued. Sosua will fade in this new stage. No night life to speak of and nothing to distinguish it from the many tourist traps in the DR. I think the rich boys have over played their hand. They were sold a vision that is a mirage. The older tourist who go there are very tight with their money and there is nothing for kids. I give the Hardrock 6 months before reality slaps them in the face. Those skanks and chicas made Sosua special.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3022675]I can assure you that there are still plenty of hot black hookers in Sosua and DR generally.

You just don't see hot black hookers strolling the 2 block strip anymore with the skanks.

Tough for the skank market, and their clients, but no real change for the connoisseur who gets his ass off off the Rumba and Bar Central barstool!

The big change is in how and where to meet them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Oakie;3022675]I can assure you that there are still plenty of hot black hookers in Sosua and DR generally.

You just don't see hot black hookers strolling the 2 block strip anymore with the skanks.

Tough for the skank market, and their clients, but no real change for the connoisseur who gets his ass off off the Rumba and Bar Central barstool!

The big change is in how and where to meet them.[/QUOTE]Well we know that the Rumba Barstool is dead now.

Here's where the expats can either let the town decline and pick up the pieces or share.

People are mentioning Ground Zero nightclub in Puerta Plata there's also supposed to be a strip club in Puerta Plata.

I heard that there's limited chicas in Blue Ice.

But as you see the average monger and the ones that will make it worth it for the "Baddies" In Santo Domingo to make the trip require the window shopping aspect.

Where are these hoes hiding because the other Positive Sosua Promoter Mr. T keeps posting empty streets and talking about "Tyranny".

The choice is yours give us a hint or let Sosua become Boca Chica North.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=OldKool;3022749]Those skanks and chicas from all over the Island drew men from all over the world. You live in Sosua and had stopped doing what us weekend warriors pursued. Sosua will fade in this new stage. No night life to speak of and nothing to distinguish it from the many tourist traps in the DR. I think the rich boys have over played their hand. They were sold a vision that is a mirage. The older tourist who go there are very tight with their money and there is nothing for kids. I give the Hardrock 6 months before reality slaps them in the face. Those skanks and chicas made Sosua special.[/QUOTE]Obviously as much guff as I give the DR I love the island. And the specialnees of Sosua was for a time the most inviting place on earth for Men.

Again expats and sexpats (barring Oakie and maybe Mr. T.) are the only ones kinda keeping it halfway real. The Minister of Tourism is a genius but I'd be shocked if criuse ship tourists replace monger bucks. Even if they're expecting the Canadians and europeans spending weeks or months here to replace weekend warriors who literally threw money in the air they're crazy.

I've said it many many times the town was purpose built for the Passport bros. Why would someone from Santiago by pass Playa Dorada to go to Playa Sosua? Playa Alicia is right there and that wasn't a draw for the non mongering crowd.

When the Malecon is revamped there's even less reason to go to Sosua so the most likely outcome unless they raise the red flag is that it becomes a smaller Boca Chica.

Calle Duarte gets poppin' most nights and I beleive the Piano Bar is still the epicenter but BC has big ass SD right there and the Summer Base ball camps. Why wouldn't chicas stay in chica hotels in BC and work the Calle Duarte strip when the day time El Conde strip closes?

If I were Flip Flop I'd either move to Puerta Plata or Boca immediately if not soon.

Old Kool is the last Sosua stalwart and why'all lost him. If Holloween is a flop then The Infinity complex and Drink Point will gladly take the passport bros off of Sosua's Hands.

Passport Bros get a bad rep but look at all the businesses they started and the money they donated to charity and that's a drop in the bucket of what they spent on hennessy hoes and being western union papis.

End of an era.

Hope this helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3022785]Obviously as much guff as I give the DR I love the island. And the specialnees of Sosua was for a time the most inviting place on earth for Men.

Again expats and sexpats (barring Oakie and maybe Mr. T.) are the only ones kinda keeping it halfway real. The Minister of Tourism is a genius but I'd be shocked if criuse ship tourists replace monger bucks. Even if they're expecting the Canadians and europeans spending weeks or months here to replace weekend warriors who literally threw money in the air they're crazy.

I've said it many many times the town was purpose built for the Passport bros. Why would someone from Santiago by pass Playa Dorada to go to Playa Sosua? Playa Alicia is right there and that wasn't a draw for the non mongering crowd.

When the Malecon is revamped there's even less reason to go to Sosua so the most likely outcome unless they raise the red flag is that it becomes a smaller Boca Chica.

Calle Duarte gets poppin' most nights and I beleive the Piano Bar is still the epicenter but BC has big ass SD right there and the Summer Base ball camps. Why wouldn't chicas stay in chica hotels in BC and work the Calle Duarte strip when the day time El Conde strip closes?

If I were Flip Flop I'd either move to Puerta Plata or Boca immediately if not soon.

Old Kool is the last Sosua stalwart and why'all lost him. If Holloween is a flop then The Infinity complex and Drink Point will gladly take the passport bros off of Sosua's Hands.

Passport Bros get a bad rep but look at all the businesses they started and the money they donated to charity and that's a drop in the bucket of what they spent on hennessy hoes and being western union papis.

End of an era.

Hope this helps.

Trip.[/QUOTE]"Sentiments" and predictions are one thing. Reality is something else.

Here are some facts.

POP Airport continues to set records for visitors, as does DR in general. POP saw a 20% increase in visitors in 2024.

And a new record set for the first 7 months of 2025.

[I]"Tourism Minister David Collado announced that July 2025 is another historic month for Dominican tourism. Some 863,785 tourists arrived at the different airports around the country. Added to that number are 189,051 cruise passengers, for a monthly total of 1,052,836 visitors, an all-time high for July. This represents a 3. 4% increase compared to last year and 12% more than July 2023. The DR is the leader in arrivals in the Caribbean and Central America".[/I]

So we have no shortages of visitors,(supply), and the last time I checked, no shortage of providers. (product). Prostitution is legal and sanctioned by the main tourism industry, bars, restaurants, and hotels.

The 2 block strip aside, Susua was, and still is, unique in many ways. The closest thing to conventional dating in the and / A / Euro style of "dating", except nobody is shaming you for going home with a beautiful young (legal) lady, and you'll get a smile from the hotel desk! What transpires between the two of you, depends on the human dynamic of your choice, GFE or flop. Nothing is guaranteed, and like in real life, you can't get your money back from a complaints department, but you can take a little time to get to know each other, before you pull the trigger.

Where are the hoes?

Young DR ladies have very few options when it comes to employment, and hooking is a easier way to improve their financial situation than working in the hospitality industry, for dirt wages.

So they are everywhere, in bars, restaurants, local shops, both as employees and customers. Every day I meet chicas, in a local colmado that gives me that smile, or returns my Hola. I've stopped collecting potentials. My black book has been full for a while, now. LOL.

And at my age there's no way I could get that kind of youthful fresh quality to hang with for a lazy day on the beach. As far as attitude goes, these young (legal) girls blow away the and / A / Euro snoots with their entitlements and baggage.

Sosua IS changing, from a point and click brothel, to a more civilized and natural form of meeting and fucking.

For those the mourn the demise of the strip. It's obvious that they should look for more structured providers, like Blackbeard's, and what I hear of Thailand, where they provide the ladies, set the fees, and even have a complaints department!

With increased traffic, gentrification, new high end hotels and restaurants, Sosua is much more likely to become a mini Las Vegas, than a Boca Chica LOL.

Flip Flops is a beach bar. They will stay where the action is.

As usual, IMHO and YMMV.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3022779]Well we know that the Rumba Barstool is dead now.

Here's where the expats can either let the town decline and pick up the pieces or share.

People are mentioning Ground Zero nightclub in Puerta Plata there's also supposed to be a strip club in Puerta Plata.

I heard that there's limited chicas in Blue Ice.

But as you see the average monger and the ones that will make it worth it for the "Baddies" In Santo Domingo to make the trip require the window shopping aspect.

Where are these hoes hiding because the other Positive Sosua Promoter Mr. T keeps posting empty streets and talking about "Tyranny".

The choice is yours give us a hint or let Sosua become Boca Chica North.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.[/QUOTE]Here's a hint. NETWORK. NETWORK and NETWORK. Its all about who you know and who you blow. I'm NOT doing the blowing so I for damn sure better be doing the knowing LOL. And for the record Mr. T on Youtube is always posting about tyranny and that theyre trying to destroy sosua and blah blah blah. He did that when covid first came and as you can see Sosua survived. This will be no different. Can't speak for the average monger as yourself and others that's been posting on the board for many moons now are NOT average. The intangibles of Sosua is what keeps that place mystical. Majority of the expat bars that the average monger does not descend upon is still there with your local waitresses. Put money all you have to do is network with your favorite waitress on if she have any lady friends. Or how about walking to your favorite beach bar and asking the owner etc what's the 411. The thing that I love about the SU is that even now there's still a shit ton of expats from all walks of life that will help you find what you're looking for. All you got to do is ask and be cool.

Keep in mind I still feel that this situation where theres hardly any girls walk the street is TEMPORARY. The powers that be tried this "twice" before with them even throwing big money expats in jail and / kicking them out of the country to make an example to only fail MISREABLELY in achieving there goal. Because the ladies still wound up coming back. So if I'm an average square bear monger going down there for the 1st time and not know anyone and can only spend the weekend away from home as he can't even say gracias, I say wait 6 months to see what's happening because most likely the ladies will slowly return by then. If you an OG monger that's been down there before and know people this will barely be a hiccup for you. If you a beach guy like myself I still recommend that you go down there and just do your thing.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;3022876]Here's a hint. NETWORK. NETWORK and NETWORK.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, guys were not going to Sosua to network. They can literally do that anywhere. They were going for the ambiance of the open air brothel.

Trying to talk the place up when the main thing mongers were going for is gone, you might as well be pissing in the wind. If Burger King changed from being the Home of the Whopper to the Home of the Veggie Burger, there would be much less people interested, no matter how much you preach that they can order off the secret menu.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;3022876]Here's a hint. NETWORK. NETWORK and NETWORK. Its all about who you know and who you blow. I'm NOT doing the blowing so I for damn sure better be doing the knowing LOL. And for the record Mr. T on Youtube is always posting about tyranny and that theyre trying to destroy sosua and blah blah blah. He did that when covid first came and as you can see Sosua survived. This will be no different. Can't speak for the average monger as yourself and others that's been posting on the board for many moons now are NOT average. The intangibles of Sosua is what keeps that place mystical. Majority of the expat bars that the average monger does not descend upon is still there with your local waitresses. Put money all you have to do is network with your favorite waitress on if she have any lady friends. Or how about walking to your favorite beach bar and asking the owner etc what's the 411. The thing that I love about the SU is that even now there's still a shit ton of expats from all walks of life that will help you find what you're looking for. All you got to do is ask and be cool.

Keep in mind I still feel that this situation where theres hardly any girls walk the street is TEMPORARY. The powers that be tried this "twice" before with them even throwing big money expats in jail and / kicking them out of the country to make an example to only fail MISREABLELY in achieving there goal. Because the ladies still wound up coming back. So if I'm an average square bear monger going down there for the 1st time and not know anyone and can only spend the weekend away from home as he can't even say gracias, I say wait 6 months to see what's happening because most likely the ladies will slowly return by then. If you an OG monger that's been down there before and know people this will barely be a hiccup for you. If you a beach guy like myself I still recommend that you go down there and just do your thing.[/QUOTE]I agree 100% with your first point of networking, I'll still visit Sossua because I've got plenty of chicas to get what I want and they will always help out their friends by passing them on to me but your second point of all of this being temporary is completely wrong, the Pedro Clisante parade is dead, period. Are there girls around, yes. Will they allow girls to walk and congregate on Pedro Clisante freely once again, NO. What they are finally going to do is push it down the end of the street in the government designated red zone which has been the plan for many years and the reason why the police station was moved down there. David has been working feverishly on renovating his club 24/13 because he has been told it is happening and Ahnvee was recently purchased by a group of investors and rumor has it that Willy the mayor is one of the investors through a straw company but I can't verify that of course.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3022854]"Sentiments" and predictions are one thing. Reality is something else.

Here are some facts.

POP Airport continues to set records for visitors, as does DR in general. POP saw a 20% increase in visitors in 2024.

And a new record set for the first 7 months of 2025.

[I]"Tourism Minister David Collado announced that July 2025 is another historic month for Dominican tourism. Some 863,785 tourists arrived at the different airports around the country. Added to that number are 189,051 cruise passengers, for a monthly total of 1,052,836 visitors, an all-time high for July. This represents a 3. 4% increase compared to last year and 12% more than July 2023. The DR is the leader in arrivals in the Caribbean and Central America".[/I]

So we have no shortages of visitors,(supply), and the last time I checked, no shortage of providers. (product). Prostitution is legal and sanctioned by the main tourism industry, bars, restaurants, and hotels.

The 2 block strip aside, Susua was, and still is, unique in many ways. The closest thing to conventional dating in the and / A / Euro style of "dating", except nobody is shaming you for going home with a beautiful young (legal) lady, and you'll get a smile from the hotel desk! What transpires between the two of you, depends on the human dynamic of your choice, GFE or flop. Nothing is guaranteed, and like in real life, you can't get your money back from a complaints department, but you can take a little time to get to know each other, before you pull the trigger.

Where are the hoes?

Young DR ladies have very few options when it comes to employment, and hooking is a easier way to improve their financial situation than working in the hospitality industry, for dirt wages.

So they are everywhere, in bars, restaurants, local shops, both as employees and customers. Every day I meet chicas, in a local colmado that gives me that smile, or returns my Hola. I've stopped collecting potentials. My black book has been full for a while, now. LOL.

And at my age there's no way I could get that kind of youthful fresh quality to hang with for a lazy day on the beach. As far as attitude goes, these young (legal) girls blow away the and / A / Euro snoots with their entitlements and baggage.

Sosua IS changing, from a point and click brothel, to a more civilized and natural form of meeting and fucking.

For those the mourn the demise of the strip. It's obvious that they should look for more structured providers, like Blackbeard's, and what I hear of Thailand, where they provide the ladies, set the fees, and even have a complaints department!

With increased traffic, gentrification, new high end hotels and restaurants, Sosua is much more likely to become a mini Las Vegas, than a Boca Chica LOL.

Flip Flops is a beach bar. They will stay where the action is.

As usual, IMHO and YMMV.[/QUOTE]I've lived in a few delevoping nations and the benefits and drawbacks are the same.

I live in a city that also doesn't have a PC style strip and I got all the Poon I can handle. However if someone liked Pedro I wouldn't suggest that they come to Cali even thought it\s bigger and better.

From what you're saying it would be a disservice to not provide a disclaimer that to a noob looking for boob that he might have to know Spanish and have the monger eye.

We talk about the US being a sex prison but if you go to certain areas of the US women will give you the same look that you get in Sosua.

The reason why Sosua is such a huge topic is because of the hypocritical lying expats (obviously not you) You got Men and women expats championing this shit knowing that if Sosua didn't have hoes they wouldn't be there either and I'm also talking about hetrosexual western women looking for western Men.

Why female expats move to sex pat destinations is a long subject out of the scope of this board but I could explain if someone wants to know why.

There's no strip in Sosua but you're not leaving and I'm staying where I am despite of a lack of the strip and sense I'm an expat I will go to Sosua and use the monher eye to mount some chicas from Monetellano.

I like BBL baddies from Chisto Rey but I don\t mind barebacking a Farm Marm either.

To newbs who don't have the time or inclination to use their monger eye maybe they should go elsewhere.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;3022876]Here's a hint. NETWORK. NETWORK and NETWORK. Its all about who you know and who you blow. I'm NOT doing the blowing so I for damn sure better be doing the knowing LOL. And for the record Mr. T on Youtube is always posting about tyranny and that theyre trying to destroy sosua and blah blah blah. He did that when covid first came and as you can see Sosua survived. This will be no different. Can't speak for the average monger as yourself and others that's been posting on the board for many moons now are NOT average. The intangibles of Sosua is what keeps that place mystical. Majority of the expat bars that the average monger does not descend upon is still there with your local waitresses. Put money all you have to do is network with your favorite waitress on if she have any lady friends. Or how about walking to your favorite beach bar and asking the owner etc what's the 411. The thing that I love about the SU is that even now there's still a shit ton of expats from all walks of life that will help you find what you're looking for. All you got to do is ask and be cool.

Keep in mind I still feel that this situation where theres hardly any girls walk the street is TEMPORARY. The powers that be tried this "twice" before with them even throwing big money expats in jail and / kicking them out of the country to make an example to only fail MISREABLELY in achieving there goal. Because the ladies still wound up coming back. So if I'm an average square bear monger going down there for the 1st time and not know anyone and can only spend the weekend away from home as he can't even say gracias, I say wait 6 months to see what's happening because most likely the ladies will slowly return by then. If you an OG monger that's been down there before and know people this will barely be a hiccup for you. If you a beach guy like myself I still recommend that you go down there and just do your thing.[/QUOTE]The issue is Political will and Big Bank taking little bank.

A high government official gave a Press conference where she said " If you're coming to engage in Prostitution don't COME! She doesn't wwant egg on her face and if Abinder has to park a Platoon on Pedro for the forseeable future to get Kings to close and sold to him for a dollar then that's what he will do.

Granted the Monger eye will always be undefeated and I could seed up a saleslady in Samana as easily as I could in Sosua now.

But supply follows demand so if the Passport Bros are convinced that Sosua as we know it is dead then it will be.

Won't matter to a long term expat but how much quality is La Union?

The Onus is on us to Keep Hope (and Demand) Alive pass 2028.

Post up gentlemen.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3022886]I agree 100% with your first point of networking, I'll still visit Sossua because I've got plenty of chicas to get what I want and they will always help out their friends by passing them on to me but your second point of all of this being temporary is completely wrong, the Pedro Clisante parade is dead, period. Are there girls around, yes. Will they allow girls to walk and congregate on Pedro Clisante freely once again, NO. What they are finally going to do is push it down the end of the street in the government designated red zone which has been the plan for many years and the reason why the police station was moved down there. David has been working feverishly on renovating his club 24/13 because he has been told it is happening and Ahnvee was recently purchased by a group of investors and rumor has it that Willy the mayor is one of the investors through a straw company but I can't verify that of course.[/QUOTE]This won't matter if the Army is still there though.

The word on the street is that Abinder hates Wilfredo and certainly Quinque Atun thinks that the Abinder family is also invaders from Lebanon.

This might be too deep in the weeds for most but the idea that the Puerto Rican guy will benefit wouldn't play well in Santo Domingo.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

No body is going to Sosua to network and the girls are not coming back. The former crack downs are nothing compared to what is happening now. The Chinese store has closed already and the first of many that will be shutting down very soon. The girls came from all over the Island and that ship has sailed. I think Punta Cana could be the next hot spot. The discos are established and draw great numbers of attractive women. I could be wrong but I think the rich guys have over estimated Sosua potential. There will be no night life or attractions for families. So what is the draw? The DR has the most unfinished buildings I have ever seen. They are every where.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3022885]Unfortunately, guys were not going to Sosua to network. They can literally do that anywhere. They were going for the ambiance of the open air brothel.

Trying to talk the place up when the main thing mongers were going for is gone, you might as well be pissing in the wind. If Burger King changed from being the Home of the Whopper to the Home of the Veggie Burger, there would be much less people interested, no matter how much you preach that they can order off the secret menu.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;3022926]No body is going to Sosua to network and the girls are not coming back. The former crack downs are nothing compared to what is happening now. The Chinese store has closed already and the first of many that will be shutting down very soon. The girls came from all over the Island and that ship has sailed. I think Punta Cana could be the next hot spot. The discos are established and draw great numbers of attractive women. I could be wrong but I think the rich guys have over estimated Sosua potential. There will be no night life or attractions for families. So what is the draw? The DR has the most unfinished buildings I have ever seen. They are every where.[/QUOTE]The Draw is and will always be the bitches. The Hoes is what makes them go. No way will they will replace Passport bro bucks on a dollar for dollar basis and that's if bot local tourists and cruise shippers and snowbirds come.

Again my Prediction is Boca Chica North with maybe a little night action on Doc Rosen or Stern street just like Calle Duarte is for Boca Chica at night.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

Everything's under control for now. But the girls are still here. It's just more discreet. You need to call your girlfriend to come to your hotel.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3021733]Everybody says what they will not do when they have never been to a place. But boots on the ground will tell an entirely different story.[/QUOTE]Case in point:

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;3022223]It's better late than never. Don't really know where to start, but after visiting Pattaya, I was blown away and I actually prefer Pattaya than Bangkok. I just say it's the perfect spot for mongering.

She got out of shower and saw her fully naked body, she's smoking hot! Very nice ass that matches her thick thighs. Curvy waist and small chest with small nipples. [b]Reminds me of athletic build like Dominican girls.[/b]

She stands up facing her back in front of me. Bent over and grabbed junior and started rubbing to her clit. I didn't bother grabbing the condom as I'm soaking wet to get out of shower. Fucked her raw in doggy. I usually always cover up and [b]this is the 2nd time I did raw in my mongering career[/b], the first time I fucked a beautiful venny in Bogota which the condom accidentally broke and ended up busting inside of her.

I was ready to bust, I asked her if she want it inside and she agreed. Busted my load inside her. Best feeling ever, but probably won't do that again LOL.

Took the Baht bus to Soi 6. [b]I was overwhelmed[/b] LOL.

Pattaya is life changing. Will I go back? Absolutely, Yes. But I will plan for a 3 weeks trip next time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;3022939]Everything's under control for now. But the girls are still here. It's just more discreet. You need to call your girlfriend to come to your hotel.[/QUOTE]And where am I supposed to get one from if I do not already have one?

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3022901]The issue is Political will and Big Bank taking little bank.

A high government official gave a Press conference where she said " If you're coming to engage in Prostitution don't COME! She doesn't wwant egg on her face and if Abinder has to park a Platoon on Pedro for the forseeable future to get Kings to close and sold to him for a dollar then that's what he will do.

Granted the Monger eye will always be undefeated and I could seed up a saleslady in Samana as easily as I could in Sosua now.

But supply follows demand so if the Passport Bros are convinced that Sosua as we know it is dead then it will be.

Won't matter to a long term expat but how much quality is La Union?

The Onus is on us to Keep Hope (and Demand) Alive pass 2028.

Post up gentlemen.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.[/QUOTE]Yeah no need to go Jesse on me LOL. They been talking about keeping hope alive in the SU for atleast 10 plus years now and yet here we are. Add to the fact that the politicians has more then several occasions took a stand against foreigners indulging in prostitution in DR. Nothing new. Everything were discussing is honestly same shit. I'll know when change is finally here whenever they finish building the new beach (if that'll ever happen) and if they will actually make a red light district like they discuss many years ago and not gas up the the investors that bought propety in that area like before. Til then I be like Mani and have my network of hunnys pass the pussy to me, from her girlfriends to her aunt, sisters and cousins. Do what you do and let your network, work for you. And if you're in a hunter mode just go to you local colmado or supermacado like Tio Oakie said and say hola and watch the magic happen. That should be more then enough to keep a man satisfied while he navigates thru the carribean madness we call the SU.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3022885]Unfortunately, guys were not going to Sosua to network. They can literally do that anywhere. They were going for the ambiance of the open air brothel.

Trying to talk the place up when the main thing mongers were going for is gone, you might as well be pissing in the wind. If Burger King changed from being the Home of the Whopper to the Home of the Veggie Burger, there would be much less people interested, no matter how much you preach that they can order off the secret menu.[/QUOTE]If a dude doesn't want to network in anywhere he ventures around the world that tells me hes a square bear that doesn't care what he pays and who he is around. So most like he's an CERTIFIED idiot. And this conversation isn't for him. A HUGE thing I've notice that made every great monger have a better time wherever theyre at is by networking. Maybe this cleanup will be good for the real OG mongers. For years weve all got tired of the western union, weekend warrior pappi dudes that would pay 200 us dollars on a fake fat bbl ass in spandex that looks like jabba the hutt. So now that theyre gone the real mongers can now reclaim Sosua as the market reset on the prices. I really wish when you were down there you wouldve haggle any of the females that you saw were available and just ask what they would charge. I wouldve put money she wouldn't be charging you weekend warrior prices anymore as you now have total control of what youll pay and what you won't. And she BETTER give good service and not that leche papi bullshit. She needs you not the other way around because as you notice those leche papi big baller on the weekend dudes are gone. And to be honest FUCK 'EM. The game was to be sold not be told but dudes came down making it rain with Mr. T gold chains, walking into Rumbas dressed like Prince Akeem from Coming to America (that actually happened) showcasing the hoes on youtube like theyve never seen a phat ass before where at its core Dominican Republic is a Sexual Paradise BUT its also VERY conservative. Thats the reason why they have a shit ton of cabanas. Keep shit discreet while you skeet on some dominican titties in-between the sheets. Ya dig.

So if guys can't make a simple adjustment in something as easy as networking or in logistic terms of the what you speak, simply download the mcdonalds app so you can get more free shit and get more bang for your buck then they need to keep their asses home. Because most of those dudes are the ones that fucked up the game in the first place over paying for hippos for a 5 min nut. And then have the nerve to brag to his friends that he came up and smash a baddie for 300 US dollars. No bueno.

[QUOTE=Blakman;3022939]Everything's under control for now. But the girls are still here. It's just more discreet. You need to call your girlfriend to come to your hotel.[/QUOTE]What does this mean you went on Tinder and got the snappi nappi rappi? Is the other dating sites poppin'.

There's been mentions of certain spots where girls can hang. I heard Blue Ice but no one confrimed.

Also heard girls migrated to caberete where theres no heavy police presence.

Give us additional details.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;3022956]Yeah no need to go Jesse on me LOL. They been talking about keeping hope alive in the SU for atleast 10 plus years now and yet here we are. Add to the fact that the politicians has more then several occasions took a stand against foreigners indulging in prostitution in DR. Nothing new. Everything were discussing is honestly same shit. I'll know when change is finally here whenever they finish building the new beach (if that'll ever happen) and if they will actually make a red light district like they discuss many years ago and not gas up the the investors that bought propety in that area like before. Til then I be like Mani and have my network of hunnys pass the pussy to me, from her girlfriends to her aunt, sisters and cousins. Do what you do and let your network, work for you. And if you're in a hunter mode just go to you local colmado or supermacado like Tio Oakie said and say hola and watch the magic happen. That should be more then enough to keep a man satisfied while he navigates thru the carribean madness we call the SU.

If a dude doesn't want to network in anywhere he ventures around the world that tells me hes a square bear that doesn't care what he pays and who he is around. So most like he's an CERTIFIED idiot. And this conversation isn't for him. A HUGE thing I've notice that made every great monger have a better time wherever theyre at is by networking. Maybe this cleanup will be good for the real OG mongers. For years weve all got tired of the western union, weekend warrior pappi dudes that would pay 200 us dollars on a fake fat bbl ass in spandex that looks like jabba the hutt. So now that theyre gone the real mongers can now reclaim Sosua as the market reset on the prices. I really wish when you were down there you wouldve haggle any of the females that you saw were available and just ask what they would charge. I wouldve put money she wouldn't be charging you weekend warrior prices anymore as you now have total control of what youll pay and what you won't. And she BETTER give good service and not that leche papi bullshit. She needs you not the other way around because as you notice those leche papi big baller on the weekend dudes are gone. And to be honest FUCK 'EM. The game was to be sold not be told but dudes came down making it rain with Mr. T gold chains, walking into Rumbas dressed like Prince Akeem from Coming to America (that actually happened) showcasing the hoes on youtube like theyve never seen a phat ass before where at its core Dominican Republic is a Sexual Paradise BUT its also VERY conservative. Thats the reason why they have a shit ton of cabanas. Keep shit discreet while you skeet on some dominican titties in-between the sheets. Ya dig.

So if guys can't make a simple adjustment in something as easy as networking or in logistic terms of the what you speak, simply download the mcdonalds app so you can get more free shit and get more bang for your buck then they need to keep their asses home. Because most of those dudes are the ones that fucked up the game in the first place over paying for hippos for a 5 min nut. And then have the nerve to brag to his friends that he came up and smash a baddie for 300 US dollars. No bueno.[/QUOTE]Well I assume you use my tried and true Big Butt Delivery service aka Snappi Nappi Rappi.

How much do you pay? Do you incintivize the procurer?

I usually paid in the range of 2000 if a repeat and 2500 for new to me poon.

That's more than the 100,000 COP I pay in Cali.

32 vs. 25 bucks

The problem with what you're saying is you can fly into POP, SD, Santiago or Punta Cana in each place there are more girls and bigger networks.

Take away the window shopping aspect and the best of the best of SD working girls fueled by those overpaying weekend warriors and what's the incintive to take the bus to Sosua?

If I lived there or happened to be in Puerta Plata maybe I'd mosey over but as it stands Ground Zero is Ground Zero for north coast mongering. , Even 2 months ago the place to be in the Su on Sunday Afternoons was The Malecon in PP.

As much maligned as the overpaying weekend warrior was that was the draw for the best the Island had to offer. The Big spenders was the magnet on Super Bowl weekend many a savvy Monger was near the beach enterance where the chicas fresh off the bus would break luck with a smart monger to get the money for the chica hotel and food.

Then there was the Copa for afterhours hunting where you could get a morning shot as the chica was too tired to go back to the Chica Hotel asking girls to bring in reinforcements on busy weekends offering to pay for the bus ride with a ride.

There were a million little tricks but if the chica hotels ain't around you won't have the leverage to coax nursing students from Santo Domingo to nurse your dick.

The onus is on us to paint a picture to get guys to make a trip because if we don't it will be like Samana a place where some pussy is available but not much.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;3022956]So now that theyre gone the real mongers can now reclaim Sosua as the market reset on the prices. [/QUOTE]Have fun. But you have not explained why one would choose to "network" in Sosua versus the million other places they can "network". You could network in Santo Domingo. You could network in Nagua. You could network in Rio de Janeiro. You could network in Cartagena. You can network right where you live. There is nothing special about Sosua if one has to network to come up with something.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;3022956]I really wish when you were down there you wouldve haggle any of the females that you saw were available and just ask what they would charge. I wouldve put money she wouldn't be charging you weekend warrior prices[/QUOTE]There were like 3 chicks. Who is going all the way to Sosua to have their choice of 3 chicks? Man y'all are some double die hard Sosua folks. Even when it [B]totally[/B] goes to shit why'all put on the Stevie Wonder glasses and act like everything is just fine from a mongering perspective.

Even Old Kool finally gave in and admitted there are no chicks worth anything going to Sosua. That leaves only you and Okra to die on that Sosua hill. IQ is a big Sosua guy, but I do not think he could even act blind to this.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3020940]At Kim there 4 chicks. 2 chicks in Blue Ice. 3 chicks outside of New Garden. Sitting outside at Bollywood Bliss there was an American chick taking on the phone and eating or drinking. Then there were 2 chicks in Paradise City. (None of the chicks mentioned that I would fuck with Old Kool's dick.).[/QUOTE]Okay. There were actually 11 chicks. But who is excited to go to Sosua for 11 chicks? And I did mention that I would not have fucked either of them with Old Kool's dick, so I would not have been inclined to ask them anything. The proverbial not fucking them if they paid me comes to mind.

Just ask a girl you have fyck, the real. So this is what a Santo Domingo girl said is going on. It means old simplicity way is a thing of the past. And just like new technology at a job, It just affects the illiterate, old skool cats that just want to whine about how things was so much better in the past. The young gees and the old guys hip to technology is going to transition to the new era seemlessly after adapting to the glitches.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3022967]What does this mean you went on Tinder and got the snappi nappi rappi? Is the other dating sites poppin'.

There's been mentions of certain spots where girls can hang. I heard Blue Ice but no one confrimed.

Also heard girls migrated to caberete where theres no heavy police presence.

Give us additional details.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=OldKool;3022926]No body is going to Sosua to network and the girls are not coming back. The former crack downs are nothing compared to what is happening now. The Chinese store has closed already and the first of many that will be shutting down very soon. The girls came from all over the Island and that ship has sailed. I think Punta Cana could be the next hot spot. The discos are established and draw great numbers of attractive women. I could be wrong but I think the rich guys have over estimated Sosua potential. There will be no night life or attractions for families. So what is the draw? The DR has the most unfinished buildings I have ever seen. They are every where.[/QUOTE]Even high end restaurants and hotels shut close for periodic fumigation. Disneyland closes for maintenance. LOL.

This latest is long overdue. The spandex low life skanks were taking over to the point where they pushed the newbies and semis off of downtown and the beach! Even the mongers were complaining about them.

Now the streets are back to normal for a lazy tropical beach town. The normal chicas (more than 3, last time I checked, LOL) are doing their thing in restaurants, bars and shopping areas, where the screaming mimis are not allowed. More civilized and discreet. We'll see how it all falls out, come high season.

Puerto Plata, PC and places like Semana are not a draw for those who like to kick back on the beach with friends with benefits, and Sosua is still unique as a place (area) where a younger monger can hook up with a relationship or two. Many younger mongers are into that now, and it logically explains why traffic to Sosua is setting new record.

(watch them coming in at the airport, and ask them why they are still coming in? LOL).

Jaded old farts, who can't compete with the younger more affluent guys for the fresher, newer, more normal chicas, have been leaving Sosua for the last 10 years or so, but the hotels and restaurants are still in business, and even raising their prices.

I got 17 years of friends, friends with benefits, and local business and family contacts there, that I wouldn't give up for anyplace. I usually spend a couple of months during the hot and rainy summer, to see family back in once beautiful Toronto, but has turned into a haven for tent cities, and druggies and winos living, and passing out on the sidewalks.

[I]"While the number has fluctuated and efforts have been made to clear encampments, the city's ongoing housing crisis has led to their resurgence. These encampments are becoming more geographically widespread, appearing in parks and public spaces across the city, not just in the downtown core".[/I]

So good luck in PC, but I hope you don't be re-posting second hand Punto Cana Reports here, like our Mr E does with Pattaya, to up his post count! LOL.

If we want to know what is going on in Pattaya, we can just click!

[QUOTE=Blakman;3023027]Just ask a girl you have fyck, the real. So this is what a Santo Domingo girl said is going on. It means old simplicity way is a thing of the past. And just like new technology at a job, It just affects the illiterate, old skool cats that just want to whine about how things was so much better in the past. The young gees and the old guys hip to technology is going to transition to the new era seemlessly after adapting to the glitches.

.[/QUOTE]Listen what me and E is trying to say is why would someone who has to network bypass Santo Domingo, Boca Chica, Punta Cana, Puerta Plata hell even Costembar to go to Sosua?

The Sosua caberete area is maybe 30,000 people tops. Even if you put your Tinder Radar to Puerta Plata the leverage the chica has to even catch the bus to Sosua is going to cost you. Because they're aint that many girls there.

I'm really not trying to call people out here but when I was in SD the expat or experienced long term monger rate was about 2000 pesos or so. IF you're boots on ground in the last week or so you can at least say "I paid x amount for a underemployed waitress". For example years ago I was in the Su with a wierdo that I met on this board on a Tuesday after noon as dude went to PP to chase some hoe he met on Tinder. I met an out of work Casino waitress who let me todo la noche for 300 pesos for some weed because she wasn't a puta. I'll own up to beleiving her and since I lived in SD at the time we agreed to meet in Santiago that never happened.

You can "network" Island wide, most people say that the prettiest women of the DR live in Santiago and back in the day a lot of Santiago girls went to hustle in the Su. Because chicks rather not network in Santiago proper. That's why although it's the second city only the most veteran mongers mongered in Santiago and of them usually they met the girls eslewhere and eventually linked with them in Santiago since they lived there.

As it stood even Oakie admits that this board is a complain fest and almost no actual trip reports. I'm interested because it seems like in red pill Island itself they made this Gynocentric action simply because Men where too happy .

Why'all already lost Sosua Stalwark Old Kool so going forward the board will consist of basically Rants and stupid shit. The most fucked up thing about the situation is the hyprocritical sexpats celebrating the crackdown assuming that once the overpaying weekend warriors left that they could run through the relatively few women in Sosua Abajo.

People talk about Quality dropping since times immortal once a girl realized she was pretty she went to the big city to snag a Man. The best looking hoes from SD went to the Su because that's where the big time mongers where. If dudes don't see creep cam videos and empty streets THEY won't COME and if they don't come neither will the baddest girls.

So if the last of the last Sosua addicts want to compete with a couple dozen local chicks with expats like Oakie and even long term visitors with apartments there like Asain Seeker77 Good luck with that.

To anyone reading this and thinking of coming down especially if you're new to Sosua understand that on a busy weekend with Tinder Bumble and Dominican Cupid there might be 20 girls to choose from the whole weekend and even less will be availible at night.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3023072]Even high end restaurants and hotels shut close for periodic fumigation. Disneyland closes for maintenance. LOL.

This latest is long overdue. The spandex low life skanks were taking over to the point where they pushed the newbies and semis off of downtown and the beach! Even the mongers were complaining about them.

Now the streets are back to normal for a lazy tropical beach town. The normal chicas (more than 3, last time I checked, LOL) are doing their thing in restaurants, bars and shopping areas, where the screaming mimis are not allowed. More civilized and discreet. We'll see how it all falls out, come high season.

Puerto Plata, PC and places like Semana are not a draw for those who like to kick back on the beach with friends with benefits, and Sosua is still unique as a place (area) where a younger monger can hook up with a relationship or two. Many younger mongers are into that now, and it logically explains why traffic to Sosua is setting new record.

(watch them coming in at the airport, and ask them why they are still coming in? LOL).

Jaded old farts, who can't compete with the younger more affluent guys for the fresher, newer, more normal chicas, have been leaving Sosua for the last 10 years or so, but the hotels and restaurants are still in business, and even raising their prices.

I got 17 years of friends, friends with benefits, and local business and family contacts there, that I wouldn't give up for anyplace. I usually spend a couple of months during the hot and rainy summer, to see family back in once beautiful Toronto, but has turned into a haven for tent cities, and druggies and winos living, and passing out on the sidewalks.

[I]"While the number has fluctuated and efforts have been made to clear encampments, the city's ongoing housing crisis has led to their resurgence. These encampments are becoming more geographically widespread, appearing in parks and public spaces across the city, not just in the downtown core".[/I]

So good luck in PC, but I hope you don't be re-posting second hand Punto Cana Reports here, like our Mr E does with Pattaya, to up his post count! LOL.

If we want to know what is going on in Pattaya, we can just click![/QUOTE]Believe me you will soon get this board cleared of Ranting Posts comparing it to other places where there's no comparison.

I live in Cali Colombia and I would encourage mongers to come while saying many times if you're a Su refugee don't come. Why for the same reasons you stated very hard to window shop you have to know where to go and there's very very few places with any kind of signs.

Anyone who comes to Cali will have to network and vet the chica to aviod being drugged and robbed, And that's not even mentioning the multiple bombings this year. I said that and I would assume that you'd say "why the fuck would I want to go to a place where I have to watch my back if I could find a chica and risk getting blown up?"

I could say that only happens in the hood not any area you'd be in and they caught most of the scopalamina gangs so that's way down But you're not a expat you would be a newbie.

Just like a noob or a veteran would say why would I go to a town to see reportably 11 chicas in some of the bars that people are too pussy to even name on a monger board?

That's the weirdest thing I'll call out Cerise Fairfax basically begging guys to come saying "They're dressed discretely in certain restuarants come down and figure it out" She wants mongers to fly hundreds or thousands of miles and endure a bumpy bus ride for an unnamed amount of chicas in some unnamed places and if the chicas happen to be the slightly bit of aggressive in advertising the cops will swoop in.

That sounds as crazy as finding needle in a haystack pussing in crime ridden narco terrorist town but as an expat I'm as committed to my adopted home town as you are to yours.

I also go back to my "hometown" but not in the dog days of summer because of the elevation it's way less humid than Santo Domingo or Sosua is.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

The worst thingi about the Su is if everyone "hated" the Spandex queens (who were there for years) and is basically the uniform for working class and rural dominican women.

Is the fact that people are still using the bandwagon effect of "Sosua's Great never been better or busier" If I was a old ass Canadian grandmother I'd celebrate the fact that I don't have to be intimidated by a Top Tier Hooker Influencer in town for villa parties on Super Bowl weekend. You could promote the town to old ass timid mongers who stay for months who wants someone to change their adult diaper and give them a blow job.

But lets not pretend that guys looking to party with the most beautiful women and willing to pay for it should come way out of their way to some out of the way backwater beach town looking for booty.

If you're sitting on your ass in Bailee's I can't even see whether the wagon that you're dragging is worth it to me. Not to be stereotypical but to the guys who paid for the transforming of Sosua it booty matters just as much as the beauty so no Spandex no selection.

I'm interested in seeing the rug pull of a place that was a paradise for Men and frankly the only place that marketed and catered to a certain demograpic of Men, The hated Spandex and Creep Camming that oldters and expats claimed to hate sustained the town.

It'd be one thing to say "Thanks but no Thanks" It would be another to encourage the strongest most visible supporter of the town to leave over a stupid dispute but the worst thing is to basically tell a certain demograpic to essentially kick rocks but then say "Come yes we got rid of everything you wanted but if you sqiunt your eyes you'll find something that you'd want".

After the expat is finished fucking her.

Granted I'd be annoyed if outsiders continiously dumped on my town but if you want less dissapointed posts either tell guys "Shits changed" Or change shit back.

The worse thing is no one cared about prostitution before Jet Blue showed up.

But no reports no weekend warriors.

Going foward barring responses or maybe talking about the political situation I'll limit bashing the town directly.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

I was just doing some math on how many people who have lost there income from these changes. Hundreds of working girls. 30 or 40 Moto guys. 20 or 30 cab drivers. 30 or 40 salon workers and barbers 50 or more restaurant workers. Not to mention the Airbnbs not being rented. The new projects are years from being completed and are not guaranteed success. While the quote good folk are celebrating almost 1000 people have lost their livelihood. I am sure there many others I have left out. It will be interesting to see how things flow. The quote good folk have just pulled the rug from under a lot poor folk trying to survive.

Ambor Harbor is a beautiful area in Puerto Plata serving the cruise crews. I think Sosua drawing tourist is fools gold.

My friend who lives in Sosua, told me today that the girls are plentiful down by the beach. The police have cleaned them off the streets, but there are beaucoup girls on the beach now!

[QUOTE=OldKool;3023113]I was just doing some math on how many people who have lost there income from these changes. Hundreds of working girls. 30 or 40 Moto guys. 20 or 30 cab drivers. 30 or 40 salon workers and barbers 50 or more restaurant workers. Not to mention the Airbnbs not being rented. The new projects are years from being completed and are not guaranteed success. While the quote good folk are celebrating almost 1000 people have lost their livelihood. I am sure there many others I have left out. It will be interesting to see how things flow. The quote good folk have just pulled the rug from under a lot poor folk trying to survive.[/QUOTE]It's a damn shame, but the aggressive hoes, and their monger clients, had taken over the streets, and Saturday nights downtown were a drunken wild west show, which carried on back to the hotels with screaming matches with chicas chasing the mongers and other hoes, for some deal gone bad.

So as far as I am concerned, the hoes and mongers brought it on themselves. I'm not losing sleep over it.

I doubt it would be tolerated in those other destinations that are forever being hyped here and sold as better alternatives for mongers.

So you guys who think the circus will just move on to Puerto Plata, Punta Cana, et al, forget it!

Times really are a changin'.

Just imagine a Hard Rock Cafe, or a Hooters, where most of the chica customers are selling pussy! LOL.

Right now, the chicas behind the counters in the stores, restaurants, banks, offices are selling pussy on the side. And it's all legal, without the fights.

Sosua, Tropical Paradise with benefits!

Even the lady cops, if Mr E is to be believed!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3022975]Have fun. But you have not explained why one would choose to "network" in Sosua versus the million other places they can "network". You could network in Santo Domingo. You could network in Nagua. You could network in Rio de Janeiro. You could network in Cartagena. You can network right where you live. There is nothing special about Sosua if one has to network to come up with something.

There were like 3 chicks. Who is going all the way to Sosua to have their choice of 3 chicks? Man y'all are some double die hard Sosua folks. Even when it goes to shit why'all put on the Stevie Wonder glasses and act like everything is just fine from a mongering perspective.

Even Old Kool finally gave in and admitted there are no chicks worth anything going to Sosua. That leaves only you and Okra to die on that Sosua hill. IQ is a big Sosua guy, but I do not think he could even act blind to this.[/QUOTE]Funny how even you don't see the pattern. Or choose to ignore them better yet. We are ALL saying the same shit literally 10 plus yrs ago. If you honestly think Sosua is over then while were at it I got a bridge to sell you LOL. Sosua on a dying hill? Everything has gone to shit for mongers? Are you kidding me. This is just a normal day of Carribean Madness. Weve been here plenty of times before about Chicken Little SU. But let me put on my stevie wonder glasses and explain the madness since you're only seeing the silhouette and not the full picture.

Sosua is one of the few spots in the world where the government can shoot themselves SEVERAL times in the foot and ass in how to develop sosua, lose a SHIT ton of Money and Investors with half done projects (it has happen before) and still will have NEW investers come knocking at there door afterwards. Why? The "COMBINATION" of the BEACH, ACCESSIBILITY, & PROXIMITY to everything. Did I mention the BEACH and how MAJESTIC it still looks. Shit looks like something out of a fucking fairy tale movie. How you think this little small town got its mass appeal in the first place. That beach and calm ocean. Forget the ladies for a sec, hell I could literally go old school sale tactic where I take a couple photos of Sosua beach and playa alicia from an old school 2000 Hello, motor razr phone, put that photo on a pamphlet and start sending out brochures to old retirement homes to tell them to come on down and stay at the Coolie High Condo View where I give you a guided tour of the SU. Why would I use an photo from a old phone with jaded pixels because once they come down and see it for themselves with their own eyes theyll be like, the pics doesn't do it justice. This is amazing. Where can I buy your condos LOL. See you and others have literally been around the world. So its just another day for you. For atleast 98 percent of humans that's not the case. They haven't been where you've been. But for them this is the best thing since slice bread and with that daily incredible scenary from the beach one can argure it. Bottomline theres plenty of folks in westernized countries that have disposable incomes and are starving to just get away from their country even if temporarily as most would enjoy beating out the winter by walking the beach instead.

Next up is acecessibility. Which is a major key. None of us are spring chicken any more and Sosua is near a major airport. If I need to get home to my family immediately because of an emergency or I get sick and need major surgery or got into an accident I don't have to travel 40 hrs and have multiple layovers in Abu Dabi and Frankfurt to get back home. Or if something happens to me, family can IMMEDIATELY fly down there within hours notice and NOT travel a billion miles to come get me from boom boom town. You know where they love you long time.

And finally proximity. Or as a sales man like myself that wants to sell you this bridge, LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION. Sosua sits right in the middle between 2 flourishing places called Puerta Plata and Cabarete with a SHIT ton of small towns in between. Which means its a SHIT ton of females to holla at. All you got to do is network or just literally take a fucking walk. Hell youll stumble upon pussy just by catching the gua gua. Computer Love a hunny dip to your room if you're really lazy.

So with all honesty if a man can't get laid even in the SU right now those are the type of dudes that couldn't get laid in a reverse gangbang where hes the only stunt dick besides a dildo with 20 females butt naked in front of him. I can't help dudes where you have to tell them to put penis in vagina but first say hola to them. Ooh and don't pay in dollars pay in pesos. But they go ahead and pay in dollars anyway simply because theyre to lazy to exchange money. Like theyre to lazy to network with expats and local ladies theyll naturally stumble upon that's readily available to help them literally get laid. Seriously how many places on the planet where youll get folks that will HELP YOU GET LAID and as an added BONUS you don't even have to speak the native language simply because of a strong expat community with native hunnies that's willing to share her family and friends with you. Still think theres NOTHING special about Sosua. Hell If that aint the definition of "sexual paradise" where folks are accomadating in trying to get you laid then please tell me what the fuck is. Because I don't get that type of network back in the states. And that's with money.

And yet the idiots will reject networking but will now complain that theres no ladies to walk around on the streets for them to youtube it secretly in front of rumbas. And then they still wouldn't talk to the ladies they just would front that they were around a bunch of ladies living the good life before being stuckup for there fake rolex and 300 dollars for a quickie papi leche nut. Bunch of SOCIAL RETARDS. And these are the dudes that has been ran off.

So yeah if monger gents are scared now simply because you can't see ladies all in your face at the moment (it hasnt even been 3 months yet of this new change) and want to go else where that's cool. They got scared and thought the sky was falling so they travel else where during covid when the 2 pm no drinking law was in effect and bars were closed at night. They got scared and thought the sky was falling so travel else where when they shutdown classicos and kicked out armondo even though he was in the right and fought it all way to the DR suprmeme court and won. They got scared when the beach was in talks of being totally destroyed for a bigger better new development and blah blah blah.

So while folks travel to Pango Pango for that nut I'll be here on that dying hill called Sosua, that's been in monger hospice for well over 10 plus years now, taking shots of tequilla, celabrating life with Tio Oakie laughing at another sky is falling scenario tale from Chicken Little SU at out local expat bar like we did during covid. Then the next day we'll still stumble down to our same local bar on the beach, with the same waitress, chillen with the same local expats we known for 15+ yrs with a hunny dip on our lap and a presidente in our hand. And while she's on our lap she'll be networking her friends and family from la union, montellano, puerto plata, LOS charmicos, Cangrejo, Costambar, Cabarete to come sit on my lap with us in the SU and enjoy an evening with ol Coolie. Salute 🍻.

[QUOTE=CoolieHigh;3023128]Funny how even you don't see the pattern. Or choose to ignore them better yet. [/QUOTE]That is my entire point. Mongering is supposed to be simple, especially when traveling somewhere for that specific purpose. A person should not need to see patterns and figure things out. It should be the hookers are in that spot, go choose one. As Trip said, nobody is traveling thousands of miles to have to see patterns and figure stuff out and squint their eyes and be under the 8th coconut tree in the northwest corner of the beach from 2 to 3 pm like it is groundhog day.

A person can network and find patterns without going all the way to Sosua to do it. There is no reason that you can give that people should go to Sosua and once there figure out how to get hookers.

Who the hell stays outside of a restaurant when it closes down waiting for it to open back up? Any sane person would just go find another of countless restaurants to eat at. But not Sosua double die hards. They are steadfast and willing to wait by that door until a cabinet shop opens where the restaurant was and keep waiting there hoping the cabinet shop will eventually close and their restaurant will come back. People's favorite restaurants close all the time and the supermajority just accept it and find someplace else to eat. They don't tell people to go on down to the location for their anniversay dinner because there are still some scraps of food left over by the dumpster. Nobody is trying to waste their valuable time going to Sosua to scrounge!

I have been to plenty of top mongering places and when the lights turned out, folks just moved on to somewhere else. Nobody is still waiting outside of the old Help in Rio saying any day now.

How did Sosua put this spell on you guys where you refuse to move on? Even though Old Kool refuses to venture off the island, he at least went back to Punta Cana where he knew things are already overpriced. He did not go waste his efforts waiting for a battle that had already been lost.

Took my first trip to Sosua back in 2023 and was looking forward to a return trip this year. I was pissed when the raids looked like they had killed Sosua. I decided to just start messaging girls from my contacts during that trip. One sent me a video from a older guy named "Tony the tiger" (ring a bell to anyone?

He said all the business owners had a meeting at cafe Cubano fighting to get things back to normal after the raids have messed up people's livelihood. He says Sosua is going back to normal but with hours the girls can work. Monday through Thursday 9 pm to 2 am, Friday and Saturday 9 to 3 am. They don't want the girls out in the morning when kids are out and they will be required to dress like ladies now LOL.

Take this with a grain of salt, I'm just sharing what she sent me. I'm bummed they can't be out 24/7 anymore but somethings better than nothing.

[QUOTE=Scorpio22;3023511]Took my first trip to Sosua back in 2023 and was looking forward to a return trip this year. I was pissed when the raids looked like they had killed Sosua. I decided to just start messaging girls from my contacts during that trip. One sent me a video from a older guy named "Tony the tiger" (ring a bell to anyone?

He said all the business owners had a meeting at cafe Cubano fighting to get things back to normal after the raids have messed up people's livelihood. He says Sosua is going back to normal but with hours the girls can work. Monday through Thursday 9 pm to 2 am, Friday and Saturday 9 to 3 am. They don't want the girls out in the morning when kids are out and they will be required to dress like ladies now LOL.

Take this with a grain of salt, I'm just sharing what she sent me. I'm bummed they can't be out 24/7 anymore but somethings better than nothing.[/QUOTE]Finally we get some news about Sosua and it's not from boots on ground yet.

I'll hold my powder in calling out people. But please go and report back.

It looks like the Su might be being smart. Cartagena has a similar pattern discrete chicks on Hollywood beach in the daytime and a rolling amount of girls allowed in the clock tower region at night for the window shoppers.

Other than that there are the clubs.

Maybe just maybe Sosua will take a page out of this book because youtubers already reported seeing passport bros from Sosua out in Carty.

Lets hope the germans and canadians come back in force since they clearly prefer them to the New York guys.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3023523]Finally we get some news about Sosua and it's not from boots on ground yet.

I'll hold my powder in calling out people. But please go and report back.

It looks like the Su might be being smart. Cartagena has a similar pattern discrete chicks on Hollywood beach in the daytime and a rolling amount of girls allowed in the clock tower region at night for the window shoppers.

Other than that there are the clubs.

Maybe just maybe Sosua will take a page out of this book because youtubers already reported seeing passport bros from Sosua out in Carty.

Lets hope the germans and canadians come back in force since they clearly prefer them to the New York guys.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.[/QUOTE]I was there for two weeks after the raids, the first Saturday was very dead, in some bars I was the only client. The second weekend had some guys from NY and the new HardRock cafe had opened but during the weekdays it was deader than a dodo. Never have I been able to walk in a straight line (sober I mean) during the day in Pedro Clisante and this time I was able to, due to the lack of people. Sad! Even the PN patrolmen were looking bored out of their mind.

In the beach, instead of chicas, it was a combination of PN and Politur patrolling. I did see about 10 chicas on the afternoons I spent drinking in the Mofongo King but only like 2 were do-able.

So if you see any new videos of chicas walking in Sosua beach, this is from before the raids.

I have my own roster so had no issues but many from Puerto Plata were reluctant to come to Sosua so had to meet up in cabanas. It was school reopening time, so the single mothers were more than eager to please. Only one MILF from Santo Domingo was happy to come to my AirBNB but she generally dresses like a office worker, so never would have had problems.

In terms of what I saw, couples walking around had no problems from the police.

BTW I heard the exact same news about the chicas being allowed back in at night, on another board, so hopefully it will become widely known soon. This new 'in the evenings only, dress well' was the proposal from Willy after the local meeting but before the sudden raids. Glad they are coming back to it. Just need to arrest the creepcammers and then things will go back to normal (my hope) without being broadcasted to the world via YouTube.

[QUOTE=Scorpio22;3023511]Take this with a grain of salt, I'm just sharing what she sent me. I'm bummed they can't be out 24/7 anymore but somethings better than nothing.[/QUOTE]In this case I would say nothing is better than something. This is your chance to escape to better pastures. As Old Kool put it, no woman worth anything is going to be going to Sosua. It is just like losing a job. When most people lose their job they end up getting a better one. But a Sosua monger would rather stick to the same old tired mud ducks instead of heading for better pastures.

[QUOTE=Scorpio22;3023511]They don't want the girls out in the morning when kids are out and they will be required to dress like ladies now LOL[/QUOTE]So they say those pigs can not be out on the streets without lipstick? I hope they ban those dead cats they have on their heads while they are at it.

[QUOTE=ErectusIndicus;3023584]I was there for two weeks after the raids, the first Saturday was very dead, in some bars I was the only client. The second weekend had some guys from NY and the new HardRock cafe had opened but during the weekdays it was deader than a dodo. Never have I been able to walk in a straight line (sober I mean) during the day in Pedro Clisante and this time I was able to, due to the lack of people. Sad! Even the PN patrolmen were looking bored out of their mind.

In the beach, instead of chicas, it was a combination of PN and Politur patrolling. I did see about 10 chicas on the afternoons I spent drinking in the Mofongo King but only like 2 were do-able.

So if you see any new videos of chicas walking in Sosua beach, this is from before the raids.

I have my own roster so had no issues but many from Puerto Plata were reluctant to come to Sosua so had to meet up in cabanas. It was school reopening time, so the single mothers were more than eager to please. Only one MILF from Santo Domingo was happy to come to my AirBNB but she generally dresses like a office worker, so never would have had problems.

In terms of what I saw, couples walking around had no problems from the police.

BTW I heard the exact same news about the chicas being allowed back in at night, on another board, so hopefully it will become widely known soon. This new 'in the evenings only, dress well' was the proposal from Willy after the local meeting but before the sudden raids. Glad they are coming back to it. Just need to arrest the creepcammers and then things will go back to normal (my hope) without being broadcasted to the world via YouTube.[/QUOTE]Well again thanks for the HONEST Report, Man said he saw 10 girls two doable. Had to link with girls from Puerta Plata who reluctantly came to a cabana.

Sounds like you got to love going to Sosua to actually go there. Not every noob is going to have action at barmaids.

The creep cammers are necessary because it provided a snapshot of what was available at the time. Sosua knew where it's bread is buttered. PUDO TV was seen on another creep cam while creep camming himself you think people didn't know who he was?

Creep Cams was MARKETING sure it was annoying but it's what people wanted to see, A single stongly worded letter to Alphabet couldve gotten all channels shut down.

Rarely does a a creep cam channel stay up in any other place because they don't feel they need it.

Creep cams do kind of advertise for a certain clueless newbie that probably shouldn't be mongering abroad though.

Here's hoping that Sosua finds a happy medium where the girls can make money and doesn't piss off the populace too much.

Hope this helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=ErectusIndicus;3023584]
In the beach, instead of chicas, it was a combination of PN and Politur patrolling. I did see about 10 chicas on the afternoons I spent drinking in the Mofongo King but only like 2 were do-able.

BTW I heard the exact same news about the chicas being allowed back in at night, on another board, so hopefully it will become widely known soon. This new 'in the evenings only, dress well' was the proposal from Willy after the local meeting but before the sudden raids. Glad they are coming back to it. Just need to arrest the creepcammers and then things will go back to normal (my hope) without being broadcasted to the world via YouTube.[/QUOTE]Last time I was at the Sew I saw dozens of chicas at Bailey's just sitting there hoping for a hookup. I would plant myself at the entrance opposite of the bathroom to see the talent walk by.

So here we are again. LOL.

Just the latest re-setting of the tables to accommodate the record numbers of tourists that keep the money flowing into Sosua. Hard dicks with hard currency is just too much to give up. So they use the excuse of "all those precious jobs that would be lost", to keep the gravy going. After all, politicians in a democracy have to be elected, and these people vote!

We know what happened the last time the lady mayor tried to change Sosua, she was kicked out and our good friend Willie was brought back. LOL.

Same reason the government's can't make cigarettes illegal.

So once again, I'll repeat.

The game is not over until they:

1. Declare soliciting for prostitution illegal (By law, or even a simple business rezoning designation within town limits}.

2. Start hassling tourist clients.

3. Hotels change their "guest" policy.

And, as long as our Sosua addicts / haters who hang around here for years complaining how bad things are, stop spending their hard earned money in Sosua.

Our prolific poster should take his own advice, and, "move on to better pastures"!

If he is to be believed he was in DR for a couple days, yet went out of his way to visit Sosua as least three times. Now THAT'S weird! LOL.

Signed.

Your resident Sosua lover!

One of the richest guys in Sosua has to be the Mayor and owner of Classicos Willie. He is spending big money on remodeling the place. He has been raking in millions for years. Back in the day classicos was packed with paying customers every night of the week. . he also has a major interest in the casino in Playa Chicita. If money talks this guy has a loud voice. While many are playing checkers this guy is a chess master. Got my money on him. Can he regain the trust of the ladies. I think the economics of the DR will force many ladies to swallow pride and return. There are few options for uneducated single moms any where in world and even less in the DR.

If passport bros have an ally then Willie is the guy because Classicos wealth came from the dollars the bros and Hos spent in his businesses. If the proposed compromise takes place it will be Willie who makes it work. Rumbas will survive as the setup for the new Classicos. While the casino will be the after party. All speculation but following the money often leads the way to solutions.

Here's the deal as a Monger I hate hypocrisy and the sexpats in the fake book groups are the worst

One of the main reasons that I post here is because I can't say what I want to there. So if anyone Man or woman lives in Sosua they were ok with the hoes because if they weren't any other beach town would be good. Even if you say You moved to get the jump on the rich retiree wave then Miches would be a far batter option than Sosua and at least until very recently it was cheaper too.

Frankly I heard about the meeting at Cafe Cubano and it was a PROPOSAL and I believe it's one that will be rejected. The Minister of the Interior was clear she doesn't want any prostitution at all in Sosua.

She does want Passport bro bucks though. We have a recent report there's women on the apps mainly in Puerta Plata willing to come to a Cabana not to a.Hotel in Sosua proper. Ground Zero Nightclub in PP is advertising heavy especially Wednesday night "ladies night". I heard rumblings on what's app that women are hanging around the oro restaurant in Caberete. There's limited daytime action on Playa Sosua and Kite beach. That gets the have it both ways approach of getting mongers to come down and stay off the strip which is now the least likely place to find girls.

You could also try your hand at waitresses at Kings Bailee's Flip Flop's Blue Ice and Tiki wiki but bear in mnd there's expats like Oakie and he'll have dibs. Additionally waitstaff in a aforementioned places are super used to being propositioned so either you will be turned down, charged a fortune or scammed if you're not an experienced Monger.

In fact I'll go futher unless you link with expats I wouldn't go to the DR to monger people say "well you won't get drugged" even though there was a case in SD where they caught a Colombian scope gang so there goes the idea that its impossible to get scopedin the DR.

But because it's safer and easier to monger in the DR guys let their guards down and they lose as much money as someone who got scoped in Provenza in Medellin. The DR hoes are much more savvy than Colombian hoes besides if you immediately fuck a scope queen pay her and kick her out she can't scope you. You try to play the GFE game in Sosua and you could be bled dry in western union payments.

I think the long term play is to turn Sosua into the Next Punta Cana and anyone who flies into the DR pays consumption taxes that pays for OT for cops and soliders in Sosua. It would be better to vote with you feet and starve them out until they make it the next Boca Chica with maybe Stern Street being the New Calle Duarte like in Boca.

But lets just get real the issue was always the Jet Blue Su York Passport bros. No one had a problem when Germans are dealing with teenaged Haitianas. As Oakie said if they arrested one monger that would be way more effective at turning mongers away as when Cuba Dave inadvertantly put the kibosh on San Jose. It didn't end but the days of Mass Mongering ended.

If they got Flip Flop out of the paint they'd never have to worry about another Passport brother again.

they clearly like the money but not certian mongers don't fund hypocrisy

This was a lot but it had to be said, I gave the spots to go to if you wanted to go up front but personally I don't advise nothing will change until after a slow ass Super bowl weekend.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3023712]if you immediately fuck a scope queen pay her and kick her out she can't scope you. You try to play the GFE game in Sosua and you could be bled dry in western union payments.[/QUOTE]But guys that get drugged do not get to fuck first. There should be a question whether the chicks would even let them fuck. Maybe the chick will strongly insist on the drinking and shit first so they will not have to fuck the guy. The guys are drugged at the beginning where they call themselves relaxing and building a rapport and trying to make the chick get loose through drinking.

Like you said, if you immediately fuck a chick then chances are you will not be drugged. But P-Diddy be wanting to party. And you got to tell him no!

[QUOTE=OldKool;3023702]One of the richest guys in Sosua has to be the Mayor and owner of Classicos Willie. He is spending big money on remodeling the place. He has been raking in millions for years. Back in the day classicos was packed with paying customers every night of the week. . he also has a major interest in the casino in Playa Chicita. If money talks this guy has a loud voice. While many are playing checkers this guy is a chess master. Got my money on him. Can he regain the trust of the ladies. I think the economics of the DR will force many ladies to swallow pride and return. There are few options for uneducated single moms any where in world and even less in the DR.

If passport bros have an ally then Willie is the guy because Classicos wealth came from the dollars the bros and Hos spent in his businesses. If the proposed compromise takes place it will be Willie who makes it work. Rumbas will survive as the setup for the new Classicos. While the casino will be the after party. All speculation but following the money often leads the way to solutions.[/QUOTE]I originally agreed with you on this. I figured once the smoke cleared Willie would get his Bro's and Hoes club up and going. I am not so sure now. I saw a video of them clearing stuff out of the club last week. Can anyone on the ground confirm that the furniture and stuff is getting stripped out of the new Classicos?

[QUOTE=OldKool;3023702]One of the richest guys in Sosua has to be the Mayor and owner of Classicos Willie. He is spending big money on remodeling the place. He has been raking in millions for years. Back in the day classicos was packed with paying customers every night of the week. . he also has a major interest in the casino in Playa Chicita. If money talks this guy has a loud voice. While many are playing checkers this guy is a chess master. Got my money on him. Can he regain the trust of the ladies. I think the economics of the DR will force many ladies to swallow pride and return. There are few options for uneducated single moms any where in world and even less in the DR.

If passport bros have an ally then Willie is the guy because Classicos wealth came from the dollars the bros and Hos spent in his businesses. If the proposed compromise takes place it will be Willie who makes it work. Rumbas will survive as the setup for the new Classicos. While the casino will be the after party. All speculation but following the money often leads the way to solutions.[/QUOTE]Classicos was the Help of Sosua. Help closed never to be reopened. Can Sosua do better than Rio and have a Classicos 2. 0? What would that be like? A sanitized version or a club with benefits for bros and hoes?

[QUOTE=Norbert61;3023755]I originally agreed with you on this. I figured once the smoke cleared Willie would get his Bro's and Hoes club up and going. I am not so sure now. I saw a video of them clearing stuff out of the club last week. Can anyone on the ground confirm that the furniture and stuff is getting stripped out of the new Classicos?[/QUOTE]Discos have been illegal on Pedro Clisante for a few years now so the government officials made Willy change the sign on the outside because it said "disco" and made him remove the high top tables and stools and replace them with restaurant style tables and chairs.

[QUOTE=OldKool;3023702]One of the richest guys in Sosua has to be the Mayor and owner of Classicos Willie. He is spending big money on remodeling the place. He has been raking in millions for years. Back in the day classicos was packed with paying customers every night of the week. . he also has a major interest in the casino in Playa Chicita. If money talks this guy has a loud voice. While many are playing checkers this guy is a chess master. Got my money on him. Can he regain the trust of the ladies. I think the economics of the DR will force many ladies to swallow pride and return. There are few options for uneducated single moms any where in world and even less in the DR.

If passport bros have an ally then Willie is the guy because Classicos wealth came from the dollars the bros and Hos spent in his businesses. If the proposed compromise takes place it will be Willie who makes it work. Rumbas will survive as the setup for the new Classicos. While the casino will be the after party. All speculation but following the money often leads the way to solutions.[/QUOTE]Willy has an investor in Classicos a wealthy doctor from Canada and almost all of the money to renovate the club came from him, Willy is a scumbag but not a stupid scumbag.

Like Kenny McCormick who dies in every south park episode to respawn like nothing happened the whole "everything's going to be alright Classico's is coming back" dies and is reborn on all the Sosuas cinamatic universe socials.

Will Classico's open? Maybe but with no strip, and a Hard Rock and Bailee's and all the other joints on PC what would be the draw? Willy boy can't go around the special prosector and the Minister of Interior especially being in a small regional party that has maybe one seat in the lower house in SD.

Again the expats and sexpats won. They get to pick from the amount of local working girls in the Puerta Plata area and for the budget sexpat this works out great. Maybe a 3 k multi hour seesion a couple of times a week when she calls for funding she gets paid he gets laid, To the few pioneering passport bros who listen to the few monger bar propriators you're milage may vary greatly from what you seen on a Pudo TV super bowl weekend three years ago.

Come or don't come Sosua will be there but remember at it's core its a small third world backwater beach town like many others Island wide.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3023716]But guys that get drugged do not get to fuck first. There should be a question whether the chicks would even let them fuck. Maybe the chick will strongly insist on the drinking and shit first so they will not have to fuck the guy. The guys are drugged at the beginning where they call themselves relaxing and building a rapport and trying to make the chick get loose through drinking.

Like you said, if you immediately fuck a chick then chances are you will not be drugged. But P-Diddy be wanting to party. And you got to tell him no![/QUOTE]We can bash The Sue as much as we want but it was the best as subcommander would say International trick Training school ever.

You go there you learn and you move on. I could say in the crime and terrorist ridden kingdom of Cali I never had a problem. But then again I never had a problem anywhere I mongered at any time.

Not to be harsh but maybe if you get drugged it was bound to happen. I used tinder and I know guys who use it extensively in Colombia and they had no problems either.

Again as Kat Williams said "If Diddy invites you to a party you got to tell him no" I guess I've always had an abundance mentality and if you understand women you'll have no problems.

Years back on the USA sex guide board a monger said he always paid AFTER he fucked. After he said that I started doing the same thing basically any girl demanding money up front doesn't trust you and maybe you shouldn't trust her.

Monger is a word many run from and even I would be loath to use that word but if you really get Black pilled and realize that marriage in the west is only as long as a women deems you her best option and they expect to be paid AFTER all that so called "free Pussy" you find that it's far cheaper to NOT keep her.

But I ain't got to tell you or any of the seniors here that.

The only advice I'd give to anyone thinking they missed out on the "good old days" understand those same days can be celebrated any and everywhere.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

Look, I get many of you are going through the stages of grievance due to the loss of Sosua, but the time for healing is now over and it is time to move on LOL, such is life. In all seriousness, I think Sosua is dead. Many of you have been in the game longer than me, but we have seen this with so many classic mongering destinations. In the sixties and seventies places like Mexico City and Panama City were go to spots for guys. My father always spoke highly of Panama when he was in the air force in the sixties. In the 80's we saw the rise of Rio and Brazil. The nineties saw the emergence of Cancun and the 2000's was all about Costa Rica. Medellin was the spot for the 2010's and besides the scopping is still probably the best mongering locale for the money in this hemisphere. All these locales had their runs as the top destination, but eventually they fell off for one reason or another, and of course fun can still be had but maybe its not the cheapest anymore or the service isn't quite the same.

So we have the two main ingredients for a monger destination in abundance. Mongers and chicas. The question now should not be, what can be done to save Sosua, but where will the next break out destination be? This is a tale as old as time. As one city falls, another shall rise. Here are my top picks for cities to POTENTIALLY take over as the next main mongering locale. I base this on very little real world facts, but I want to start the discussion, because ultimately it will be up to the monger to make the next destination work.

My number #1 spot for for next Sosua: Havana- or other large beach town in Cuba.

Cuba is a fucking mess and a shit whole right now. It may be sooner rather than later than the whole country finally abandons socialism and the Castros and joins the free world. When that happens look for the government to promote tourism like there is no tomorrow to starting bringing in revenue, including getting those monger bucks! It will only take a few years for them to clean up a beach town and start to market it to the world as the next Sosua. I think the way things are going with the USA, this may happen sooner rather than later. As of right now, Cuba is way to much like a war zone for your average monger and it is still pulling in a lot of guys because of the price and level of service from the girls.

# 2 Spot for next Sue: Venezuela.

Same thing as Cuba. If USA brings down Maduro and frees Venezuela from his grip, this will absolutely be the nation of earth the most abundant cheap pussy you could ever imagine. A new golden age of cheap pussy you could argue. The downside to this is I don't see Venezuela falling as easily as a smaller island nation such as Cuba. The chances of this happening in the next 5 years of probably slim to none, but a man can dream.

# 3 Spot: Going out on a Limb here, but I will say Montego Bay for town most likely to be next Sue. Mongers have to go somewhere. Montego Bay can supply two things- women and beach. Downside is it will lack the variety that a Sosua had. Most girls will be Jamaican, but if Montego Bay blows up as a classy tourist destination, which it kind of already is, women will fly in to ply their trade. That means that a monger would be able to get a little variety on on his trip, and that is always a good thing in this game. Bonus- Jamaicans speak English.

# 4 Spot: Salvador Bahia Brazil. I just spent a good deal of time in Brazil and wow, these girls from Bahia are really beautiful, exotic, and generally very fun to be around. I can't describe it, but they laugh and flirt in a certain way which I finally very attractive and appealing and I think word is going to get out about them and what can be had in Bahia at cheap prices and Bahia could become a go to spot. The big down side to this is two fold. One is the travel time to Bahia is much further than the Caribbean. You probably can't fly out in the morning from USA and get to Bahia by night and still have the time and energy to party. Maybe some people can if they life close to Florida, but for most it means Bahia will never be a weekend warrior destination due to travel time. The other downside is of course, they don't speak Spanish, but Portuguese which makes communication that much more difficult, but this obstacle can be overcome by learning a bit of Porto.

# 5 Spot: San Salvador El Salvador- the upscale monger's choice. The legendary ISG globe trotter TomJackin did an amazing detail report of this place and it seems to be teeming with clubs to find ladies of the night and now that the country has cleaned up it gang problem and is much safer, this place could start to pull in more tourist. The downside to this pick is, it doesn't seem to be a budget locale.

OK those are my top 5 picks for the next Sosua, again, I really didn't base this on anything more than a gut feeling, so if anyone has experience in any of these locales and wants to chyme in please feel free to contribute. But I think the Sue that we all knew and loved is dead and is not coming back. I am sure you will always be able to find a beer and pussy there, but the days of it being the largest open air brothel in this hemisphere are clearly over.

[QUOTE=ErectusIndicus;3023584]I was there for two weeks after the raids, the first Saturday was very dead, in some bars I was the only client. The second weekend had some guys from NY and the new HardRock cafe had opened but during the weekdays it was deader than a dodo. Never have I been able to walk in a straight line (sober I mean) during the day in Pedro Clisante and this time I was able to, due to the lack of people. Sad! Even the PN patrolmen were looking bored out of their mind.

In the beach, instead of chicas, it was a combination of PN and Politur patrolling. I did see about 10 chicas on the afternoons I spent drinking in the Mofongo King but only like 2 were do-able.

So if you see any new videos of chicas walking in Sosua beach, this is from before the raids.

I have my own roster so had no issues but many from Puerto Plata were reluctant to come to Sosua so had to meet up in cabanas. It was school reopening time, so the single mothers were more than eager to please. Only one MILF from Santo Domingo was happy to come to my AirBNB but she generally dresses like a office worker, so never would have had problems.

In terms of what I saw, couples walking around had no problems from the police.

BTW I heard the exact same news about the chicas being allowed back in at night, on another board, so hopefully it will become widely known soon. This new 'in the evenings only, dress well' was the proposal from Willy after the local meeting but before the sudden raids. Glad they are coming back to it. Just need to arrest the creepcammers and then things will go back to normal (my hope) without being broadcasted to the world via YouTube.[/QUOTE]I am back to admit I was wrong. The meeting that happened was not with the shotcallers but with the local business owners association it seems. They were making proposals amongst themselves but the news that chicas will be allowed at night is wrong.

So on the topic of the Su, the beach is being fucked up, with torn down shacks and plaza construction on either end, chicas not allowed in town, latest video shows about 10 undoable chicas and a ghost town. It will be hard to justify going to the Su every few months when you can stay with SD or Santiago and get the girls to come to you and explore the cities the rest of the time or go to plenty of nice beaches where you can relax if you want to do that. I told a SD chica I might go to Samana next time and she was happy to come at her own cost to if she can stay for a couple of days, apparently buses are cheap-ish. I might as well stay in SD next time.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3023865]Look, I get many of you are going through the stages of grievance due to the loss of Sosua, but the time for healing is now over and it is time to move on LOL, such is life. In all seriousness, I think Sosua is dead. Many of you have been in the game longer than me, but we have seen this with so many classic mongering destinations. In the sixties and seventies places like Mexico City and Panama City were go to spots for guys. My father always spoke highly of Panama when he was in the air force in the sixties. In the 80's we saw the rise of Rio and Brazil. The nineties saw the emergence of Cancun and the 2000's was all about Costa Rica. Medellin was the spot for the 2010's and besides the scopping is still probably the best mongering locale for the money in this hemisphere. All these locales had their runs as the top destination, but eventually they fell off for one reason or another, and of course fun can still be had but maybe its not the cheapest anymore or the service isn't quite the same.

So we have the two main ingredients for a monger destination in abundance. Mongers and chicas. The question now should not be, what can be done to save Sosua, but where will the next break out destination be? This is a tale as old as time. As one city falls, another shall rise. Here are my top picks for cities to POTENTIALLY take over as the next main mongering locale. I base this on very little real world facts, but I want to start the discussion, because ultimately it will be up to the monger to make the next destination work.

My number #1 spot for for next Sosua: Havana- or other large beach town in Cuba.

Cuba is a fucking mess and a shit whole right now. It may be sooner rather than later than the whole country finally abandons socialism and the Castros and joins the free world. When that happens look for the government to promote tourism like there is no tomorrow to starting bringing in revenue, including getting those monger bucks! It will only take a few years for them to clean up a beach town and start to market it to the world as the next Sosua. I think the way things are going with the USA, this may happen sooner rather than later. As of right now, Cuba is way to much like a war zone for your average monger and it is still pulling in a lot of guys because of the price and level of service from the girls.

# 2 Spot for next Sue: Venezuela.

Same thing as Cuba. If USA brings down Maduro and frees Venezuela from his grip, this will absolutely be the nation of earth the most abundant cheap pussy you could ever imagine. A new golden age of cheap pussy you could argue. The downside to this is I don't see Venezuela falling as easily as a smaller island nation such as Cuba. The chances of this happening in the next 5 years of probably slim to none, but a man can dream.

# 3 Spot: Going out on a Limb here, but I will say Montego Bay for town most likely to be next Sue. Mongers have to go somewhere. Montego Bay can supply two things- women and beach. Downside is it will lack the variety that a Sosua had. Most girls will be Jamaican, but if Montego Bay blows up as a classy tourist destination, which it kind of already is, women will fly in to ply their trade. That means that a monger would be able to get a little variety on on his trip, and that is always a good thing in this game. Bonus- Jamaicans speak English.

# 4 Spot: Salvador Bahia Brazil. I just spent a good deal of time in Brazil and wow, these girls from Bahia are really beautiful, exotic, and generally very fun to be around. I can't describe it, but they laugh and flirt in a certain way which I finally very attractive and appealing and I think word is going to get out about them and what can be had in Bahia at cheap prices and Bahia could become a go to spot. The big down side to this is two fold. One is the travel time to Bahia is much further than the Caribbean. You probably can't fly out in the morning from USA and get to Bahia by night and still have the time and energy to party. Maybe some people can if they life close to Florida, but for most it means Bahia will never be a weekend warrior destination due to travel time. The other downside is of course, they don't speak Spanish, but Portuguese which makes communication that much more difficult, but this obstacle can be overcome by learning a bit of Porto.

# 5 Spot: San Salvador El Salvador- the upscale monger's choice. The legendary ISG globe trotter TomJackin did an amazing detail report of this place and it seems to be teeming with clubs to find ladies of the night and now that the country has cleaned up it gang problem and is much safer, this place could start to pull in more tourist. The downside to this pick is, it doesn't seem to be a budget locale.

OK those are my top 5 picks for the next Sosua, again, I really didn't base this on anything more than a gut feeling, so if anyone has experience in any of these locales and wants to chyme in please feel free to contribute. But I think the Sue that we all knew and loved is dead and is not coming back. I am sure you will always be able to find a beer and pussy there, but the days of it being the largest open air brothel in this hemisphere are clearly over.[/QUOTE]I'll own up to saying things here that I wish I could say in the expat forums.

But yes it's beyond the time to talk of new spaces.

Havana or especially Santiago would be an amazing place once the current regime falls in fact if Cuba opens back up in 20 years from that point Cuba will kill most tourism in the Carribean outside of high end and family tourism.

Jamaica is unlikely to be a one for one equivalent of the Sue mainly because of cultrual reasons.

Caracas could easying get rocking as could maricaibo again there's already some infrastucture there, Maduro could peace out to whereever tommorow and the Mongers would immediately flood in.

San Salavador is too police state for mongers to feel comfortable last thing anyone wants is to end up in CECOT.

Salvador Bahia could become an alternative to high priced Rio, Kinda far away for a weekend warrior destination.

But the Dark horse is Lima Peru, Some Passport You tube channels are already promoting it so if he blows up thank (or Blame) the Passport Bros.

I'm biased toward Cali but no beach no official red light district and bombings will make most give it a pass, but if it does blow up (in a good way) You can thank me for it.

Hope this helps.

Trip.

Anyone who really really hated the creep cams can celebrate. Nothing to creep go out there and flim to your heart's content.

Besides if you really want to know what's going one someone will show you.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbVdPuApqY0[/URL]

You evaluate whether it's worth it to go now.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

You guys are omitting the elephant in the room when it comes to the new Sosua. Cartagena perfectly fits the bill. Have at it guys.

I just returned after a 12 day stay in Sosua and this is the absolute worst I've seen in last 20 years.

I couldn't have picked a worse time to go to Sosua.

The Tourist Protection police and the National Police have a large presence on Pedro Casante and sirens start flashing at 9 pm and all girls are off the street by 11.30 pm.

The quantity and quality of the girls is very low and the businesses are dying especially the hotels however this is low season.

I think the party has comie to an end. For those contemplating a trip I would recommend waiting for updated reports generated over Halloween and Superbowl weekends.

Which are the busiest weeks for tourism -- I'll provide more details once I get settled in.

The only reason I went to Sosua this year was because Havana was dead last year. All of my friends and contacts have fled the country for Spain and Brazil.

Don't waist your time and money in Havana. Its a sewer.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3024006]But the Dark horse is Lima Peru, Some Passport You tube channels are already promoting it so if he blows up thank (or Blame) the Passport Bros.[/QUOTE]It won't. Guys like video shit. Peruvians are conservative and girl next door types (do not even think I know any with tattoos). Besides, when you get to the mongering it is mostly Venezuelans, Colombians, and Ecuadorians. Might as well stay in Colombia for those same chicks. Like I told a Colombian I once met in Tequila Sunrise who wanted $100: Shit, I can go to Santa Fe in Bogota and fuck your cousin for $8. She started laughing.

Plus there is no monger area. You find a chick online and fuck her at your place or her place or you go to one of the fuck spots and fuck them there. There is not going to be any hanging out or partying with them as was the Sosua way. So as far as open air brothel type shit, I am afraid that has pretty much dwindled on that side of the world for weekend warriors unless you are going to Santa Fe. (But that is just walking around picking a chick and going to the room she is in front of.) They would have to come over here to Asia for that sort of thing on a large scale.

I will also add that guys saying they do not like Thais having never been here, will definitely not like Peruvians, because Thais pull that kind of video shit off while Peruvians would not even try or be subjected to that music genre.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3024113]It won't. Guys like video shit. Peruvians are conservative and girl next door types (do not even think I know any with tattoos). Besides, when you get to the mongering it is mostly Venezuelans, Colombians, and Ecuadorians. Might as well stay in Colombia for those same chicks. Like I told a Colombian I once met in Tequila Sunrise who wanted $100: Shit, I can go to Santa Fe in Bogota and fuck your cousin for $8. She started laughing.

Plus there is no monger area. You find a chick online and fuck her at your place or her place or you go to one of the fuck spots and fuck them there. There is not going to be any hanging out or partying with them as was the Sosua way. So as far as open air brothel type shit, I am afraid that has pretty much dwindled on that side of the world for weekend warriors unless you are going to Santa Fe. (But that is just walking around picking a chick and going to the room she is in front of.) They would have to come over here to Asia for that sort of thing on a large scale..[/QUOTE]Things must have changed since I was in Peru. I did not find Peruvian girls attractive but I had no trouble finding them. Anyway - this is the Sosua forum so I won't go on.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3024113]It won't. Guys like video shit. Peruvians are conservative and girl next door types (do not even think I know any with tattoos). Besides, when you get to the mongering it is mostly Venezuelans, Colombians, and Ecuadorians. Might as well stay in Colombia for those same chicks. Like I told a Colombian I once met in Tequila Sunrise who wanted $100: Shit, I can go to Santa Fe in Bogota and fuck your cousin for $8. She started laughing.

Plus there is no monger area. You find a chick online and fuck her at your place or her place or you go to one of the fuck spots and fuck them there. There is not going to be any hanging out or partying with them as was the Sosua way. So as far as open air brothel type shit, I am afraid that has pretty much dwindled on that side of the world for weekend warriors unless you are going to Santa Fe. (But that is just walking around picking a chick and going to the room she is in front of.) They would have to come over here to Asia for that sort of thing on a large scale.

I will also add that guys saying they do not like Thais having never been here, will definitely not like Peruvians, because Thais pull that kind of video shit off while Peruvians would not even try or be subjected to that music genre.[/QUOTE]I never been there what's the hype? I hear passport bros bigging it up heavy.

I kinda agree with you about the open air party town for bros being dead in the west at least in the weekend warrior radius but I can't see everyone turning down that money. Every Market gets a solution and it's not too hard to create a new su on any random beach in LATAM. Trindad and some of the small Islands already depend on imports so at the 100 buck a fuck range it's not hard to get an imported lightskin in on a random beach and let them walk by a Bar.

If they build it the bros will come and someone is going to take that money.

Like Turgid said Carty is doing it right. You need day time action there's discreet action on Playa Hollywood There's the clubs and the Clock Tower gets jumping after 9 pm so you do lose the breakfast Lunch and dinner 24 hour mango walkers but its something and it's close so Bros will likely migrate there.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

Unfortunately I think these passport bros will end up visiting where I live in Pattaya. People always said it's to far they can't won't come here but that's not what I'm seeing. I've seen many guys who who I first saw in Sosua out here. There are a number of these lame youtubers out here advertising it to this group to come.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3024156]I never been there what's the hype? I hear passport bros bigging it up heavy.[/QUOTE]I guess the hype is people needing content for their internet channel. Years ago hookers used to hang around in pizza alley in Lima, but they squashed that sometime before covid. Like Norbert, I would say most guys do not find Peruvians attractive. I have no problem finding ones that I think are attractive, but like I said they are not going to be sticking out to you and you are not going to be calling them to be in any rap videos. For me Chile is another story. I definitely don't find chicks there attractive.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3024222]I guess the hype is people needing content for their internet channel. Years ago hookers used to hang around in pizza alley in Lima, but they squashed that sometime before covid. Like Norbert, I would say most guys do not find Peruvians attractive. I have no problem finding ones that I think are attractive, but like I said they are not going to be sticking out to you and you are not going to be calling them to be in any rap videos. For me Chile is another story. I definitely don't find chicks there attractive.[/QUOTE]A'ight well I really don't think Lima is the place for passport bros- A) not very much English b) ugly girls. I spent hours in taxis going through the business district at start of business. It was remarkable how few. Like hardly any girls above a 6 I saw. All those shop girls, secretaries, etc of to work. I'd rather fuck your mama for the hundredth time. C) 8 hour flight D) not a tourist spot. Not a place where you want to get offside. It won't go well.

I highly doubt waves of guys will be flooding Asia just because the DR is dead. Remember, it's all about what they're attracted to and if I need to go back in time. At one time of my life I used to live in Thailand 20 plus years on back it was mostly white and Arab guys visiting that country acting a complete azz when they were drunk. Funny story the Arab guys used to rape and molest trannies all the fucking time. The passport bros are there in Thailand but will it be more coming nah most of them want something with a ass back there so I doubt Thailand will attract more of them.

[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;3024202]Unfortunately I think these passport bros will end up visiting where I live in Pattaya. People always said it's to far they can't won't come here but that's not what I'm seeing. I've seen many guys who who I first saw in Sosua out here. There are a number of these lame youtubers out here advertising it to this group to come.[/QUOTE]

It's kinda of funny you made this post. I was contacted by some Haitian women who I've known for some years telling to encourage my friends to continue coming to Sosua. They were even video calling me but yes it's true it is extremely slow there and unfortunately it had to come to an end. I can say this Sosua had damn near every type of body a guy could be looking for with women having pretty faces to match. Santo Domingo on the other hand you'll find mostly slim women working the strip overwhelmingly black with a few mulataas. Every once and a while you'll find a white one who's thick I'll be careful hooking up with them, some make it seems like they're just so fucking happy to see you the shit seems so fake and it'll make you want to keep your guard up or leave her alone period.

[QUOTE=Adinga;3024041]I just returned after a 12 day stay in Sosua and this is the absolute worst I've seen in last 20 years.

I couldn't have picked a worse time to go to Sosua.

The Tourist Protection police and the National Police have a large presence on Pedro Casante and sirens start flashing at 9 pm and all girls are off the street by 11.30 pm.

The quantity and quality of the girls is very low and the businesses are dying especially the hotels however this is low season.

I think the party has comie to an end. For those contemplating a trip I would recommend waiting for updated reports generated over Halloween and Superbowl weekends.

Which are the busiest weeks for tourism -- I'll provide more details once I get settled in.[/QUOTE]

I saw very few Haiten girls -- they tend to be more aggressive and let you know that they are available.

The good news for those going to DR is that there are thousands of pretty non professional Dominican women looking to meet foreigners.

The retirees will reap the rewards.

What's the difference between the past and right now? And also which cities and zones have Dominican women looking for retirees?

[QUOTE=Adinga;3025282]I saw very few Haiten girls -- they tend to be more aggressive and let you know that they are available.

The good news for those going to DR is that there are thousands of pretty non professional Dominican women looking to meet foreigners.

The retirees will reap the rewards.[/QUOTE]

Hard Rock is doing youtube videos to drum up business. Literally there is no one in the place but employees. It is obvious that they over estimated the appeal of what they were offering. They have almost nothing for locals but expensive drinks and over priced American food. I give them 6 months and the doors close. If pass port Bros were still in play the place might have had a shot. The cruise clients are not coming to Sosua because cabs are charging 30 bucks each way and there is nothing to do in Sosua. When it shuts down egg will be on many faces.

Agreed. There's nothing to do in Sosua. Its being marketed like its the next Cancun.

There's building going on all over the place but its still Sosua -- doesn't make sense.

[QUOTE=OldKool;3025603]Hard Rock is doing youtube videos to drum up business. Literally there is no one in the place but employees. It is obvious that they over estimated the appeal of what they were offering. They have almost nothing for locals but expensive drinks and over priced American food. I give them 6 months and the doors close.[/QUOTE]I suspect the location is a franchise. Pretty obvious no due diligence was done before opening the place up. Why would their corporate even allow that? There is also the opportunity to open one in Puerto Plata in case anyone has any money they want to throw away like the owners of the Sosua location. If you do not even see a McDonald's, why in the fuck would you open an expensive ass Hard Rock? Small towns (especially poor ones) are for mom and pop restaurants, not corporations that only care about the bottom line.

The DR has some good tourist numbers recently. Some one has sold the North Coast as the untapped gold mine. I do not think it will work. Punta Cana has the lock on DR tourism. Billions of dollars have been invested there. There is nothing about Sosua that with make a family want to spend there time there. In 6 months reality should kick in and some of the smart money will be cutting bait. What they did not realize is that a good number of the visitors to Sosua from all over the world were coming for the ladies. Without the mongers Sosua tourists numbers are trash. The senior citizens from Canada spend very little cash while sunning by the pool. They cook their own food and are on tight budgets. I would not be surprised if the plug on the new beach hotels gets pulled. Sosua needs a 4 star hotels like I need a hole in my head. Sosua as a monger spot is dead for the foreseeable future. I am not sure we can put the genie back in the bottle. PS, the Hard Rock is called the Puerto Plata Hard Rock not Sosua

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3025651]I suspect the location is a franchise. Pretty obvious no due diligence was done before opening the place up. Why would their corporate even allow that? There is also the opportunity to open one in Puerto Plata in case anyone has any money they want to throw away like the owners of the Sosua location. If you do not even see a McDonald's, why in the fuck would you open an expensive ass Hard Rock? Small towns (especially poor ones) are for mom and pop restaurants, not corporations that only care about the bottom line.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;3025786]The DR has some good tourist numbers recently. Some one has sold the North Coast as the untapped gold mine. I do not think it will work. Punta Cana has the lock on DR tourism. Billions of dollars have been invested there. There is nothing about Sosua that with make a family want to spend there time there. In 6 months reality should kick in and some of the smart money will be cutting bait. What they did not realize is that a good number of the visitors to Sosua from all over the world were coming for the ladies. Without the mongers Sosua tourists numbers are trash. The senior citizens from Canada spend very little cash while sunning by the pool. They cook their own food and are on tight budgets. I would not be surprised if the plug on the new beach hotels gets pulled. Sosua needs a 4 star hotels like I need a hole in my head. Sosua as a monger spot is dead for the foreseeable future. I am not sure we can put the genie back in the bottle. PS, the Hard Rock is called the Puerto Plata Hard Rock not Sosua[/QUOTE]Yeah Sosua is done. Like you said too much money is invested in Punta Cana and Puerto Plata. Why would tourists take a chance on Sosua. Plus Sosua is already all over the internet so that will be hard to convince people to go there from abroad. The will get tourists but not a lot similar to Boca chica. I think the government just wanted that place off the internet I don't think they really cared about the end result.

[QUOTE=FlyTravell;3025900]Yeah Sosua is done. Like you said too much money is invested in Punta Cana and Puerto Plata. Why would tourists take a chance on Sosua. Plus Sosua is already all over the internet so that will be hard to convince people to go there from abroad. The will get tourists but not a lot similar to Boca chica. I think the government just wanted that place off the internet I don't think they really cared about the end result.[/QUOTE](1) Chang Ping.

(2) Buenos Aires.

(3) Geylang,

(4) Sosua.

Some of my best experiences were in those destinations, now they are no more. Whither the trend for the international hobbyist? For me there is still Frankfurt, Rio de Janeiro and Medellin.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3025945](1) Chang Ping.

(2) Buenos Aires.

(3) Geylang,

(4) Sosua.

Some of my best experiences were in those destinations, now they are no more. Whither the trend for the international hobbyist? For me there is still Frankfurt, Rio de Janeiro and Medellin.[/QUOTE]Costa Rica where I started also is no longer what it used to be. But as you say, we still got Colombia, Brazil, and Germany. Mexico, Thailand, and the Philippines too! Plus Switzerland and Dubai if you are up for spending a lot of dough.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3025947]Costa Rica where I started also is no longer what it used to be. But as you say, we still got Colombia, Brazil, and Germany. Mexico, Thailand, and the Philippines too! Plus Switzerland and Dubai if you are up for spending a lot of dough.[/QUOTE]Nothing in this world is the same as it used to be, nothing. So why would mongering destinations be any different.

I have been in Jamaica for 1 and half months. And frankly tinder you get better service for a lot less than Sosua streets. Yes you have to pay for transportation but these girls are coming to do whatever and mostly cause they horny and cannot fuck whenever like Sosua street walkers. I have had 4 encounters and the least hrs stayed was 6 and rest overnight. All had no kids. You can't beat that. Enjoyed the best head / pussy I ever had. Tinder works in other countries also. Kenya it dominates, and Medellin first 6 girls I hit was tinder. I guess you might argue about the 10's. But I am sure if you spend, you can get them too. All in all Tinder will become more readily used and the girls will be available for people flying in.

[QUOTE=Questner;3026482]Jon Eric Xanthos, RIP.

[URL]https://listindiario.com/la-republica/20250914/hallan-vida-ciudadano-estadounidense-multiples-estocadas-sosua_874285.html[/URL]

[URL]https://listindiario.com/la-republica/20250914/entrega-policia-nacional-mujer-acusada-muerte-estadounidense-puerto-plata_874308.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Damn. Looks like they are going to kill off the few customers they have left. I do not think this chick with Old Kool would be fast enough to pull off such a thing.

Looks like the fat chick you banged in the back of the salon on El Conde.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3026817]Damn. Looks like they are going to kill off the few customers they have left. I do not think this chick with Old Kool would be fast enough to pull off such a thing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3026817]Damn. Looks like they are going to kill off the few customers they have left. I do not think this chick with Old Kool would be fast enough to pull off such a thing.[/QUOTE]But, she loves me and I am the only man in her life (after she ate 2).

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3026817]Damn. Looks like they are going to kill off the few customers they have left. I do not think this chick with Old Kool would be fast enough to pull off such a thing.[/QUOTE]I knew "Utah John", he was an alright guy and didn't deserve what happened to him. The chica's claim of him only paying her 500 pesos is bullshit in my opinion. He had been coming to Sosua for many years and wasn't stupid enough to try that.

A lot of the girls are using cocaine and this shit makes them volatile.

Its all over the place in Sosua. Be careful.

[QUOTE=FlyTravell;3025900]Yeah Sosua is done. Like you said too much money is invested in Punta Cana and Puerto Plata. Why would tourists take a chance on Sosua. Plus Sosua is already all over the internet so that will be hard to convince people to go there from abroad. The will get tourists but not a lot similar to Boca chica. I think the government just wanted that place off the internet I don't think they really cared about the end result.[/QUOTE]My thoughts to the tee! Stick a fork in Sosua and it's done.

Now I must admit that my one and only visit to Sosua was in 2016, imagine The Tall Man at 6'-7" 250 lb white man with blonde hair (I stand out everywhere I roam) spent 1.5 weeks in this "Passport Bro" playground called The Sue, and yes I did enjoy myself but just, yes even the Brothers really made me feel welcome, it just was not my thing.

So for the past 10 years I am living in Medellin, outside of Medellin, and have traveled everywhere in Colombia and the all of South America for that matter.

Now that Sosua is off the list I am thinking of heading for 2 weeks to Havana, Cuba in November. I was there 10 years ago and just thinking of mixing up my P4P a bit.

The Tall Man.

I was a regular in the Sue for 13 years plus and did several hundred chicas. Possibly because of my excellent judge of character I only ran into 2 girls who wanted to toot. Drug use in the DR is still very much taboo. Most of the chica I knew would not even smoke. However of late more were open to smoking. I was attracted to girls who presented themselves on the classy side and this may be why I avoided coke squeezers.

[QUOTE=Adinga;3027027]A lot of the girls are using cocaine and this shit makes them volatile.

Its all over the place in Sosua. Be careful.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;3027194]My thoughts to the tee! Stick a fork in Sosua and it's done.

Now I must admit that my one and only visit to Sosua was in 2016, [/QUOTE]Are you basing your opinion one 1 visit to Sosua 9 years ago?

[QUOTE=FlyTravell;3025900]Yeah Sosua is done. Like you said too much money is invested in Punta Cana and Puerto Plata. Why would tourists take a chance on Sosua. Plus Sosua is already all over the internet so that will be hard to convince people to go there from abroad. The will get tourists but not a lot similar to Boca chica. I think the government just wanted that place off the internet I don't think they really cared about the end result.[/QUOTE]I'd agree it's going to take a long time (and lots of money) to change the reputation, maybe. Wasn't there a time when Vegas was known as "Sin City"?

As a single guy, I've been there, and it's fun; the girls are everywhere, but you can also do other stuff too. Would I want to bring my family there? No, the traffic is crazy, and you can't walk three blocks without being offered some drugs. But the people are good, I feel pretty safe in most areas, and the food and weather are good too. Perhaps a bit of balance is needed; let's hope it doesn't get gentrified too quickly.

Ok For the most part the Su is dead for the pass port bros, weekend warriors and the wet behind the ears want to be monger! Now if your a vet know how to move you got the whole island full of willint toto, this may be a good thing reset, Your not going to stop the oldest profession in the world, funny locals have been selling ass in Sosua since the 1940's when the jewish refugees arrived 25 cents a pop hehe, Any who some type of night life will come back as the high seson kicks in all depends on how much money folks have for vacation, expats snow birds winter travel, Ect Side note ATV banned Sosua too many locals getting killed including a tourist, Also if you have a trusted roster of chicas you can tap into your good to go be safe peace out!

The vast majority of pass port bro are great guys and being a weekend warrior is a smart move for how Sosua evolved. Haitians and pass port bros are being scaped goated for why things are being shut down. The real reason is rich investors want the property at a bargain price. The locals were adjusted to the Sosua streets. So they avoided the strip. When I 1st started going to Sosua there were three times as many people on the streets. Sosua was a party 7 days a week. The shut down 5 years ago chased away some classy chicas from Santiago and other barrios around the DR. Sosua became a weekend party town. I have a great roster but why would I post up in Sosua and import women. Other then the beaches Sosua has nothing compelling. What made it worth while was the fellowship of the bros and the influx of new talent on a weekly basis. I had my regulars but being able to fine diamonds in the rough was intriguing.

We are being given a load of BS about fights, drugs and underage girls being sex trafficking. All totally over blown. I live in the US and Sosua was safer the any city I ever visited in he states. The set up is the government is coming in to save Sosua for the families. That is the excuse being used to destroy the livelihood of few thousand people. Do not get it twisted this is about greed rich guys are lining their pockets while little guys are being turnout.

[QUOTE=AsianSeeker777;3027692]Ok For the most part the Su is dead for the pass port bros, weekend warriors and the wet behind the ears want to be monger! Now if your a vet know how to move you got the whole island full of willint toto, this may be a good thing reset, Your not going to stop the oldest profession in the world, funny locals have been selling ass in Sosua since the 1940's when the jewish refugees arrived 25 cents a pop hehe, Any who some type of night life will come back as the high seson kicks in all depends on how much money folks have for vacation, expats snow birds winter travel, Ect Side note ATV banned Sosua too many locals getting killed including a tourist, Also if you have a trusted roster of chicas you can tap into your good to go be safe peace out![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AsianSeeker777;3027692]ATV banned Sosua too many locals getting killed including a tourist, Also if you have a trusted roster of chicas [/QUOTE]You think this chica was on his trusted roster? Maybe she was just running to get help when she saw him dying.

[QUOTE=OldKool;3027699]The locals were adjusted to the Sosua streets. So they avoided the strip. The set up is the government is coming in to save Sosua for the families. That is the excuse being used to destroy the livelihood of few thousand people.[/QUOTE]So you are saying fuck the locals who may want to enjoy their own town without being in the midst of hookers and tricks? They should be expected to put up with it or make detours around it?

I think you are forgetting that the majority of people that live in Sosua go nowhere near Pedro Clisante and their livelihood is just fine. Have you ever been to Sosua Abajo or Charamicos? I would say less than 1% of those people depend on the Clisante strip for their livelihood. Remember there are tons of towns just like Sosua without the mongering and those towns seem to be surviving just fine. To think that removing in your face mongering from one street in the area is going to financially destroy the town is ridiculous.

The locals have lived the hookers for many years and were used them posting. They are being used as an excuse bright boy. It is so obvious Stevie can see it. There are scores of businesses that have been devastated. Everything from supermarkets to barbers shops. Give it time the square blocks will be empty.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3027710]So you are saying fuck the locals who may want to enjoy their own town without being in the midst of hookers and tricks? They should be expected to put up with it or make detours around it?

I think you are forgetting that the majority of people that live in Sosua go nowhere near Pedro Clisante and their livelihood is just fine. Have you ever been to Sosua Abajo or Charamicos? I would say less than 1% of those people depend on the Clisante strip for their livelihood. Remember there are tons of towns just like Sosua without the mongering and those towns seem to be surviving just fine. To think that removing in your face mongering from one street in the area is going to financially destroy the town is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;3027699]Haitians and pass port bros are being scaped goated for why things are being shut down. The real reason is rich investors want the property at a bargain price. [/QUOTE]I understand this is a sensitive topic because of the racial element, but rich investors have always existed. The thing that changed over the years was the demographics and the vibe. Certain people may have been tolerated more than welcomed and the government finally did something about it, after dragging their feet for about 10 years.

[QUOTE=OldKool;3027714]The locals have lived the hookers for many years and were used them posting. They are being used as an excuse bright boy. It is so obvious Stevie can see it. [/QUOTE]So if someone lives with roaches and rats many years and the city comes to condemn the place, it should be okay because they are used to it? And the city is using tearing down the condemned house as an excuse?

You know that shit was not normal, but some guys get so wrapped up in this hobby that they can not see the forest because of the trees. And to use the businesses in the area as an excuse of why hookers should have free roam is asinine. I enjoy mongering as much as the next guy, but damn have some common sense.

The major change in Sosua over the years have nothing to do with the mongers. Ballers have always been in Sosua. Especially in Classico. The major difference is the acceptance and numbers of hoodrat hoes. And we all know which groups are attracted to these bottom litter. Also missing a club attraction like classico that kept mongers inside rather than probing the streets like myself LOL. Sam Cooke said changes going to come. Tinder, Dating apps.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3027720]I understand this is a sensitive topic because of the racial element, but rich investors have always existed. The thing that changed over the years was the demographics and the vibe. Certain people may have been tolerated more than welcomed and the government finally did something about it, after dragging their feet for about 10 years.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FlyTravell;3025900]Yeah Sosua is done. Like you said too much money is invested in Punta Cana and Puerto Plata. Why would tourists take a chance on Sosua. Plus Sosua is already all over the internet so that will be hard to convince people to go there from abroad. The will get tourists but not a lot similar to Boca chica. I think the government just wanted that place off the internet I don't think they really cared about the end result.[/QUOTE]THAT is 100 Percent the Truth esp the internet. Brothers simply have to tell everyone what they are doing. IMO internet was and still is a big variable.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3027707]You think this chica was on his trusted roster? Maybe she was just running to get help when she saw him dying.[/QUOTE]Trusted chica ok Sirs what is a trusted Chica? Does she steal you blind does she tell white lies can she out perform any hollywood actor, will she spend all your money does she beg can she save money is she having sex once you step on the plane to go home did you by here a moto did you buy furniture did you by an eye fone did you pay for her mother funeral.

Does she provide an other chica for you lets say a pinch hitter if she not avaible is her toto worth it are you getting good value or are you getting hosed gringoed scamed simped don't be thar guy! Do you belive SoSua will come back hehe!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3027725]So if someone lives with roaches and rats many years and the city comes to condemn the place, it should be okay because they are used to it? And the city is using tearing down the condemned house as an excuse?

You know that shit was not normal, but some guys get so wrapped up in this hobby that they can not see the forest because of the trees. And to use the businesses in the area as an excuse of why hookers should have free roam is asinine. I enjoy mongering as much as the next guy, but damn have some common sense.[/QUOTE]Have 99.999999 % of the Planet free range hooker free. Free range hookers is a no go for society. But dawn, come on man! At least one small town like Sosua on each continent. Just a few square miles on each Continent. Is that so much to ask? If people don't like it, they can move LOL.

[QUOTE=AsianSeeker777;3027860]is she having sex once you step on the plane to go home [/QUOTE]If she isn't, how do you suppose she is making a living?

A lot of times I hate when guys post some shit like there's no other drugs there other than weed in that place. I met plenty of women who did that shit and even offered me some Cocaine is extremely popular in the RD and I'll like to mention that the ones on El Conde fyck with that shit too.

[QUOTE=Adinga;3027027]A lot of the girls are using cocaine and this shit makes them volatile.

Its all over the place in Sosua. Be careful.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;3027843]The major change in Sosua over the years have nothing to do with the mongers. Ballers have always been in Sosua. [/QUOTE]You're entitled to your opinion. When I first started coming to Sosua the demographic of mongers and the vibe was much different. Sosua was under the radar. There was no real Youtube and Yahoo/IS -OC/Club Hombre were really the only social media type of presence and that grew the USA crowd a bit, but that was also a time when dudes realized what they had and kept it pretty much low key. No one was really trying to blow up the spot back then because you had people with common sense.

Not sure how you define a baller, but most of the people were retirees, military folk and a few USA younger guys and foreigners. Being such a small town, it was hard not to see guys from the USA. Everyone passed through spots like Rocky's and the beach so you saw everyone.

A lot of dudes were still going to Santo Domingo and Boca Chica was big. I think most of what people would classify as ballers were going to HELP in Rio. When Help closed is when I started to see a major shift in the demographics and the vibe, as many of those people started coming to Sosua. Also later on TMBTS brought in a certain crowd because it was wide open information on the Net. Then later Cuba Dave used Youtube to put Sosua on blast but he just accelerated what was already in motion .

I say all this to say, I don't remember Ballers always being in Sosua and definitely not to the extend it peak at. I'm talking about when country girls went to Clasicos and not mostly girls from Santiago and Santo Domingo.. Also weren't many Haitain girls in Clasicos and they were known as ones you got for very cheap compared to Dominicans. This was way before people like Flip Flop, a VIP section or popping bottles. I remember when guys were outnumbered like 20 to 1 in clasicos and there were hardly any dudes at times. This was before Jetblue starting going there from NYC.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3028223]I think most of what people would classify as ballers were going to HELP in Rio. When Help closed is when I started to see a major shift in the demographics and the vibe, as many of those people started coming to Sosua. [/QUOTE]Heck no. I used to give those Help chicks 100 reais / night ($25 at the time). I think the most I saw in ISG reports was $75 (300 reais at the time).

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3028223]I say all this to say, I don't remember Ballers always being in Sosua and definitely not to the extend it peak at. I'm talking about when country girls went to Clasicos and not mostly girls from Santiago and Santo Domingo.. Also weren't many Haitain girls in Clasicos and they were known as ones you got for very cheap compared to Dominicans. This was way before people like Flip Flop, a VIP section or popping bottles.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I remember when all you would hear was Aventura. There were no ballers. Unless you consider getting a chick for 1000 pesos all night as being a baller. (Maybe Frannie was the baller, because he was always yelling about I should be giving them more.).

People talk about Clasico, but Latino's (not the'Latin) was my spot. I would have a chick for the night way before a line even formed outside of Clasico. Sosua was so laid back and stress free. All the women were sweeter than sugar.

People with money to splurge, make it rain, group of guys in the VIP section at Classico, show casing bottles, with some hot women in their section. You got it right. The Haitians didn't need to go in Classico cause they had their own nightclub. Remember that. On the other side. And yes Boca chica and Santo Domingo had it going on. But Sosua was discovered to be cheaper and more upscale. Anyways your theory is way off. Back when you talk they didn't have the technology to do what is happening now. Anything that's very good will be noticed sooner or later and expand. How do you think stocks grow.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3028223]You're entitled to your opinion. When I first started coming to Sosua the demographic of mongers and the vibe was much different. Sosua was under the radar. There was no real Youtube and Yahoo/IS -OC/Club Hombre were really the only social media type of presence and that grew the USA crowd a bit, but that was also a time when dudes realized what they had and kept it pretty much low key. No one was really trying to blow up the spot back then because you had people with common sense.

Not sure how you define a baller, but most of the people were retirees, military folk and a few USA younger guys and foreigners. Being such a small town, it was hard not to see guys from the USA. Everyone passed through spots like Rocky's and the beach so you saw everyone.

A lot of dudes were still going to Santo Domingo and Boca Chica was big. I think most of what people would classify as ballers were going to HELP in Rio. When Help closed is when I started to see a major shift in the demographics and the vibe, as many of those people started coming to Sosua. Also later on TMBTS brought in a certain crowd because it was wide open information on the Net. Then later Cuba Dave used Youtube to put Sosua on blast but he just accelerated what was already in motion .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3028235]Heck no. I used to give those Help chicks 100 reais / night ($25 at the time). I think the most I saw in ISG reports was $75 (300 reais at the time).

Exactly. I remember when all you would hear was Aventura. There were no ballers. Unless you consider getting a chick for 1000 pesos all night as being a baller. (Maybe Frannie was the baller, because he was always yelling about I should be giving them more.).

People talk about Clasico, but Latino's (not the'Latin) was my spot. I would have a chick for the night way before a line even formed outside of Clasico. Sosua was so laid back and stress free. All the women were sweeter than sugar.[/QUOTE]I remember Latinos (other side of the street from Clasicos going towards the beach? Also paying salidas to take back the dozens of available chicas in the various bars. Pedro Clisante had all those great bars and then the side streets and the buildings where chicas from out of town would stay.

You got mad love if you were a brotha just because it was mostly older white guys so you were a rarity back in the day. Not that Bros don't get love now, but it ain't like back then, IMO.

Yeah, the music. I heard a hip hop song in Clasicos every so often for the tourist. But there was merengue and bachata everywhere. That vibe attracted more regular babes that just wanted to party and hear their music.

Maybe by ballers he meant more hard core. You know better than me, but I got the impression that Rio was more sport fcking than Sosua back then? Sosua was crazy GFE at one point. When the Rio guys migrated, they brought that hourly, sport mentality, IMO. It got worse when Cuba Dave brought the Costa Rica crowd. Dudes starting asking girls how much for BBBJ because that's what the were used to in other places. We never had to ask that in Sosua. A lot of times, you didn't even have to use a rubber to bone. Anyway, enough nostalgia. Those days are long gone.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3028259]I remember Latinos (other side of the street from Clasicos going towards the beach? [/QUOTE]Latinos was the same side of the street as Clasico opposite Rumba. Later turned into El Toro, and after that turned into Bourbon Street. But from looking online it appears Willy owned them both, so the one you are talking about was apparently the reopening of the location I am talking about.

This guy has some pretty good pictures of chicks in 2010 before spandex and dead cats atop heads became all the rage. These pictures are what I mean by the good old days. And these chicks were only 1000 pesos. Shit is night and day from the chicks there in present times who are trying to get $100 for short time.

[URL]https://www.flickr.com/photos/brooklynflyguy/5009395434/in/photostream/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3028259]..........Yeah, the music. I heard a hip hop song in Clasicos every so often for the tourist. But there was merengue and bachata everywhere. That vibe attracted more regular babes that just wanted to party and hear their music.......[/QUOTE]The last time I partied at Classicos the song "Dem hos ain't loyal" by Chris Brown was popular and was played there after about every 6 tunes. The girls danced to it like there was no tomorrow. It was surreal.

[QUOTE=OldKool;3027699]The vast majority of pass port bro are great guys and being a weekend warrior is a smart move for how Sosua evolved. Haitians and pass port bros are being scaped goated for why things are being shut down. The real reason is rich investors want the property at a bargain price. The locals were adjusted to the Sosua streets. So they avoided the strip. When I 1st started going to Sosua there were three times as many people on the streets. Sosua was a party 7 days a week. The shut down 5 years ago chased away some classy chicas from Santiago and other barrios around the DR. Sosua became a weekend party town. I have a great roster but why would I post up in Sosua and import women. Other then the beaches Sosua has nothing compelling. What made it worth while was the fellowship of the bros and the influx of new talent on a weekly basis. I had my regulars but being able to fine diamonds in the rough was intriguing.

We are being given a load of BS about fights, drugs and underage girls being sex trafficking. All totally over blown. I live in the US and Sosua was safer the any city I ever visited in he states. The set up is the government is coming in to save Sosua for the families. That is the excuse being used to destroy the livelihood of few thousand people. Do not get it twisted this is about greed rich guys are lining their pockets while little guys are being turnout.[/QUOTE]From the BigCuzn.

Look I've probably been to Sousa maybe 3-4 times over the past 15 years, I prefer the Capitol. But honestly I am not calling myself a passport bro and things have absolutely changed.

This whole passport bro concept and the want to put everything on social media is 100% the problem. Not only are people coming and overpaying, but even the chicas now have an inflated sense of self worth. And I say this being quite young and part of this hobby. There is no need for me to publish what I do for the world to see, I don't want attention, I prefer its a secret I share only with a few. The massive influx and the drama that comes with it is directly related to social media and this concept.

Being part of this hobby is something much different, but its also the ability to adapt. My prices have barely moved. I will still not pay those high prices. The game is still alive and well as long as you know where to look. Do you think all the girls working the streets, clubs, and bars have disappeared? All the girls I knew working the streets in Sousa have been blowing my phone up. I'm sure the same is true for many of you who have been going for years. "Times are bad papi, are you coming? Do you know anyone coming?" Stop paying high dollar, do better research and better work.

I think the problem some of you have is you hop online find something that looks like a supermodel, has had the surgery and the makeup and wants a high priced life. You are paying a premium for that. There are a whole lot of beautiful options that don't come with that high price tag and have much better service. What are you looking for, a picture?

Actually I'm travelling to the capitol soon. I'll try and do some research and update what I can. I won't do much freelancing, most of my time is taken up by numbers I've had for years. I will ask about Sousa's employees and what they are doing now or where they may have moved to.

Sitting back and thinking of another change, for those that remember, right behind all the major hotel on GW in the Capitol used to be that little strip with 3 casas next to each other and a hourly hotel. You could walk into any one of them and be surrounded by 10-20 girls. The Government cracked down, they closed but Oasis didn't. This hobby is one of the oldest it changes but it doesn't stop.

I am surprised no one has said anything about this. I believed a Haitian woman was arrested a day later. September 13, 2025.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3028384]The last time I partied at Classicos the song "Dem hos ain't loyal" by Chris Brown was popular and was played there after about every 6 tunes. The girls danced to it like there was no tomorrow. It was surreal.[/QUOTE]Yeah that song came out about 10 years ago. I was referring to about 10 years before that song came out. Spots had already been closed and people locked up way before that song was even released [URL]https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=3471&article=1[/URL].

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3028367]Latinos was the same side of the street as Clasico opposite Rumba. Later turned into El Toro, and after that turned into Bourbon Street. But from looking online it appears Willy owned them both, so the one you are talking about was apparently the reopening of the location I am talking about.

This guy has some pretty good pictures of chicks in 2010 before spandex and dead cats atop heads became all the rage. These pictures are what I mean by the good old days. And these chicks were only 1000 pesos. Shit is night and day from the chicks there in present times who are trying to get $100 for short time.

[URL]https://www.flickr.com/photos/brooklynflyguy/5009395434/in/photostream/[/URL][/QUOTE]Ah OK, I remember that spot. I used to play pool in there. I must have forgotten that the bar was called Latinos, but yeah I was in there all the time and also the other bars next to it. Back in these days [URL]https://youtu.be/56iCQcr4EbA?si=6DcbZUVd9SZcJjWs[/URL].

BTW, the Latinos I'm thinking of was in between where Club X used to be and La Roca. This was before 2010.

Yeah, I've seen those pics before. Almost brings tears to my eyes. In some, you can see what I was talking about in terms of the beach not being overcrowded with chairs. Yeah, 2010 was still good.

[QUOTE=Blakman;3028257]You got it right. The Haitians didn't need to go in Classico cause they had their own nightclub. Remember that. [/QUOTE]Which spot are you referring to? I only remember Haitain babes being with white guys in the spot next to Merengue Bar. I think it was called Bar Central.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3028367]Latinos was the same side of the street as Clasico opposite Rumba. [/QUOTE]OK, I think I found the Latinos I was thinking of. It was called the D'Latinos (not to be confused with D'Latin). I caught the tail end because I used to be in other spots, but I had a great time in this spot also. This map is from 2007. As you can see, it was on the way to the beach. [URL]https://www.flickr.com/photos/renatososua/499529063/in/album-72157600217395531[/URL].

For the most part Sousas all done well done put a fork in it! Man its been one hellava run I've going going since 2013 great adventures many chicas many bars stayued at all the hoe hotels even went to passions before they closed, I was one of the top posters on TMBTS RIP fucking great web site, Any who I'm retired from working girl mongering just have one GF in the DR, is shev a hoe well there all hoes. But I digress, Any who man the cops and the government croaking down town Sosua, no girls no mongers no nobody, death by 1000 cuts, ok how long can the following places stay open or Survive? Rumbas Mags smilleys flip flops bar cental flame, blue ice other small bars, hotels new garden Sosua inn casa valeria, Player alice hotel Sosua Suits sharks, moes, old rockys, terra linda, Europa other monger and chica hotels, jobs bartenders wait staff cooks maids front desk, motos drug dealers taxi cabs its not looking good, highb season is not going to save Down town Sosua Bye Bye RIP Stations of the cross!!

[QUOTE=Blakman;3029218]I am surprised no one has said anything about this. I believed a Haitian woman was arrested a day later. September 13, 2025.[/QUOTE]Yes Questner posted it in the general thread 2 weeks ago and I copied and replied to it in this thread on page 3.

[QUOTE=AsianSeeker777;3029268]I was one of the top posters on TMBTS RIP fucking great web site![/QUOTE]I remember when that website started. Do you know why it disappeared?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3029270]Yes Questner posted it in the general thread 2 weeks ago and I copied and replied to it in this thread on page 3.[/QUOTE]I can only add that the next week in Samana a Dominican stabbed and killed a retired woman from Germany. 'Danse Macabre' Dominican way.

2 or 3 buildings from the liquor store. Next to the spot where the motel chicas stay for weekend or rent til time to leave. It was my brothers hot spot. He never went to classico.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3029265]Which spot are you referring to? I only remember Haitain babes being with white guys in the spot next to Merengue Bar. I think it was called Bar Central.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;3029382]2 or 3 buildings from the liquor store. Next to the spot where the motel chicas stay for weekend or rent til time to leave. It was my brothers hot spot. He never went to classico.[/QUOTE]I have no idea what you're talking about. The only Haitian spot I know of was Bar Central. Much much later when you had a sort of Haitain invasion of Sosua and the quality Dominican babes were less common there was a bar that converted to a Haitian spot but that was way after Bar Central and much more recent than the time period I'm taking about when Haitians weren't in Clasicos.

This is the spot I'm referring to that eventually became known for Haitains many years later. This video I think is from around 2011 [URL]https://youtu.be/Ch4poF-WLHI?si=XFb3yrGodXp_AG9D[/URL].

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3029431]I have no idea what you're talking about. The only Haitian spot I know of was Bar Central. Much much later when you had a sort of Haitain invasion of Sosua and the quality Dominican babes were less common there was a bar that converted to a Haitian spot but that was way after Bar Central and much more recent than the time period I'm taking about when Haitians weren't in Clasicos.

This is the spot I'm referring to that eventually became known for Haitains many years later. This video I think is from around 2011 [URL]https://youtu.be/Ch4poF-WLHI?si=XFb3yrGodXp_AG9D[/URL].[/QUOTE]Sosua City Lights or just City Lights as it was called was the Hattian club. I think the topper on the building still has the name but its been closed for at least 5 years I think.

[QUOTE=SamWebster;3029454]Sosua City Lights or just City Lights as it was called was the Hattian club. I think the topper on the building still has the name but its been closed for at least 5 years I think.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I think that is the same place that is in the link I posted. I used to go there when it was Dominicans like the video. I never went when the Haitians took over. Anyway, when I was talking about Haitians not being in Classicos, that was a decade before Sosua City Lights location as a Haitian spot.

[QUOTE=Blakman;3028257]You got it right. The Haitians didn't need to go in Classico cause they had their own nightclub. Remember that. [/QUOTE]Naw, Haitians didn't go to Clasicos back then because the Dominicans kept them out and no one was really checking for them except the dudes with jungle fever in Bar Central. 2005 - 2012, the Dominican talent was off the chains!

This video is from 2013 when Dominicans ran City Lights and they had Dominican Bands. The Haitian invasion came later [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyoAe0nG_F0[/URL].

Here is another one before the Haitians [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYF7ErJXCj4[/URL]

[QUOTE=SamWebster;3029454]Sosua City Lights or just City Lights as it was called was the Hattian club. I think the topper on the building still has the name but its been closed for at least 5 years I think.[/QUOTE]City Lights was open in January 2023, my last trip to the DR.

[QUOTE=AsianSeeker777;3029268]For the most part Sousas all done well done put a fork in it! Man its been one hellava run I've going going since 2013 great adventures many chicas many bars stayued at all the hoe hotels even went to passions before they closed, I was one of the top posters on TMBTS RIP fucking great web site, Any who I'm retired from working girl mongering just have one GF in the DR, is shev a hoe well there all hoes. But I digress, Any who man the cops and the government croaking down town Sosua, no girls no mongers no nobody, death by 1000 cuts, ok how long can the following places stay open or Survive? Rumbas Mags smilleys flip flops bar cental flame, blue ice other small bars, hotels new garden Sosua inn casa valeria, Player alice hotel Sosua Suits sharks, moes, old rockys, terra linda, Europa other monger and chica hotels, jobs bartenders wait staff cooks maids front desk, motos drug dealers taxi cabs its not looking good, highb season is not going to save Down town Sosua Bye Bye RIP Stations of the cross!![/QUOTE]Sosua is not dead, nor is it dying. It's actually growing by leaps and bounds.

Record tourism so far this year, and record investment. But it is changing!

There is a lot of money pouring in and the fight is on to see who gets the benefit of it all, the hooker industry or the country al large. Many think the wide open aggressive prostitution should be reigned in a little. Hell, even the usual Sosua hating mongers and ex -mongers are endlessly here complaining about the aggressive skanks on the street, and the petty crime they bring with them.

Seems some folks are never happy! LOL.

But for those like AsianSeeker, don't expect all that prime Caribbean real estate to be abandoned, hotels, bars and restaurants and condos to the point where you can pick them up for a song! There'll be no fire sales, or buses lined up to take to last of the locals to Punta Cana, or Boca! LOL.

Actually the only thing about Sosua that is dead, is the ISG Sosua Forum, as a realistic source of information about the ease of getting laid in a society where prostitution is both legal, and safe!

As usual IMHO and YMMV.

I am not good with names. Just good with fucking pyssy 4 cheap. I am in Jamaica. Got 2 of the best pussy / head I ever had. Change my outlook on the country.

[QUOTE=SamWebster;3029454]Sosua City Lights or just City Lights as it was called was the Hattian club. I think the topper on the building still has the name but its been closed for at least 5 years I think. Lol[/QUOTE]

It will take years for all the pie in the sky to get baked if ever. However what is real are hundreds of locals who have lost jobs and businesses that are shutting down. The bars restaurants hotels barber shops hair saloons cabs motos are finished. I would bet my pension that The new Hard Rock will be belly up by April. They can build all the 4 star hotels they want. No body is coming. Sosua has nothing new to offer. The greedy boys will buy the shut down businesses at a fire sale price. Frankly I think the smart boys have miscalculated. Sosua does not have the bones to be a Punta Cana. My only question is how long will it take for them to realize they bet on the wrong horse. This rant has nothing to do with the working girls. This is really about wealthy guys pushing their weight around.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3029529]Sosua is not dead, nor is it dying. It's actually growing by leaps and bounds.

Record tourism so far this year, and record investment. But it is changing!

There is a lot of money pouring in and the fight is on to see who gets the benefit of it all, the hooker industry or the country al large. Many think the wide open aggressive prostitution should be reigned in a little. Hell, even the usual Sosua hating mongers and ex -mongers are endlessly here complaining about the aggressive skanks on the street, and the petty crime they bring with them.

Seems some folks are never happy! LOL.

But for those like AsianSeeker, don't expect all that prime Caribbean real estate to be abandoned, hotels, bars and restaurants and condos to the point where you can pick them up for a song! There'll be no fire sales, or buses lined up to take to last of the locals to Punta Cana, or Boca! LOL.

Actually the only thing about Sosua that is dead, is the ISG Sosua Forum, as a realistic source of information about the ease of getting laid in a society where prostitution is both legal, and safe!

As usual IMHO and YMMV.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Oakie;3029529]Sosua is not dead, nor is it dying. It's actually growing by leaps and bounds.

Record tourism so far this year, and record investment. But it is changing!

There is a lot of money pouring in and the fight is on to see who gets the benefit of it all, the hooker industry or the country al large. Many think the wide open aggressive prostitution should be reigned in a little. Hell, even the usual Sosua hating mongers and ex -mongers are endlessly here complaining about the aggressive skanks on the street, and the petty crime they bring with them.

Seems some folks are never happy! LOL.

But for those like AsianSeeker, don't expect all that prime Caribbean real estate to be abandoned, hotels, bars and restaurants and condos to the point where you can pick them up for a song! There'll be no fire sales, or buses lined up to take to last of the locals to Punta Cana, or Boca! LOL.

Actually the only thing about Sosua that is dead, is the ISG Sosua Forum, as a realistic source of information about the ease of getting laid in a society where prostitution is both legal, and safe!

As usual IMHO and YMMV.[/QUOTE]The last sentence is most important because by every metric Tourism is way down forget Sosua proper flights are down at POP because the fees are expensive.

Sure some of the New York passport bros did the SDQ and bussed to Sosua but as the board suggests that crowd has moved on as most of the expats seem to have wanted.

You have boots on ground everyone hints that the girls are here or there. To be best of my ability any hint I heard of where the girls are I posted saying that according to a small Youtube channel They mentioned Bailee's, The Beach The Oro restaurant in Caberete, Kite Beach in Caberete and Ground Zero night club in Puerta Plata.

If you know better please enlighten us.

Or if you're of the hypocritical sexpat anti Passport Bro crowd I guess you can say nothing.

But again the only problem I have with the changes in the Sue is the trying to have it both ways. On one hand everyone is happy to see the back of the Passport Bros and appearently everyone including the tourism minister seemed to be shocked that pussy was being sold on the strip and They want all single marreno Men to go to Carty if they want to party.

For that to happen you'd have to tell them that Sosua is dead so that all those "canadian" snowbirds can snap up the new condos on the beach so that it becomes not even Boca Chica but Boca Raton.

Again to hear the expats on facebook tell it they're fine with Sosua being a bargan backwater beach town with a halfway decent beach wit a few dudes getting some snorkeling in.

Again what some passport bros on the internet doesn't matter we will find a market what matters is what Native born Dominicans want.

The town was always too small to be a party town anyway.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=OldKool;3029612]It will take years for all the pie in the sky to get baked if ever. However what is real are hundreds of locals who have lost jobs and businesses that are shutting down. The bars restaurants hotels barber shops hair saloons cabs motos are finished. I would bet my pension that The new Hard Rock will be belly up by April. They can build all the 4 star hotels they want. No body is coming. Sosua has nothing new to offer. The greedy boys will buy the shut down businesses at a fire sale price. Frankly I think the smart boys have miscalculated. Sosua does not have the bones to be a Punta Cana. My only question is how long will it take for them to realize they bet on the wrong horse. This rant has nothing to do with the working girls. This is really about wealthy guys pushing their weight around.[/QUOTE]Exactly the plain fact is that they never developed mixed tourism because it's too hard and the town is too small.

I kinda took a jab at the beach the beach is actually excellent. I'll bet most people didn't theres a decent reef there. Everyone seen the Dive shop on the beach almost no one went there.

Town has two cansinos and one dive shop and two major catamarans that Flip Flop rents for his parties. The fact that Flip is still down there is what makes people think that it's still a pussy town.

If they really want to change the image that town is going to have to change radically There needs to be less places to get buffalo wings and more Pica Pollo and Sancocho shops. Orgasmico posted links to clubs (that closed) that played Bachata not Bronx Drill music. The clubs are gone but they have bars with chairs facing the street.

If it going to attract more Dominicans and "Family Friendly" crowds then the clubs playing local music will have to come back.

One thing is certain no one has to worry about Passport bros throwing money in the air anymore. Good luck on getting a couple couples of 85 year old snowbirds to buy out the bars like that they'l have the blue plate special at a cassita and be in bed by 9 pm.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3029621]If it going to attract more Dominicans and "Family Friendly" crowds then the clubs playing local music will have to come back.[/QUOTE]But you know Dominicans do not spend money like foreign tourist. They bring their own shit to make their party. They may use your chairs and umbrellas, but they are not spending money on shit else.

I don't want to argue with you guys. I'm strictly a "to each his own" person, but I do know a little about Sosua having visited and lived here for 17 years, or so.

I've learned that posting anything positive about Sosua in this forum, brings out the jaded mongers who can't seem to adapt to the new realities, and make it work for them. They are living in the past, while life is passing them by. They really should take their own advice and move on, but they like their comradery here with the like minded, and so they stick around, looking for confirmation of their views. Of course we all know that if you spend enough time looking for something, you'll find it! LOL.

I'm not a member of "the hypocritical sexpat anti Passport Bro crowd" and I don't "drink coolade". As you can see, I'm a minority of one here in this forum!

But to recap, Sosua is a small town on a tropical Island in the Caribbean on the North Coast. It is a mere 4 miles from the International Airport in Puerto Plata, and 3 to 4 hours flying time from the major hubs in the Eastern USA And Canada. Weather's good, the people are friendly, the political system is stable. There is no street protests, arson or looting every time somebody is arrested. The tourists are quite safe if they behave in a civilized manner.

It's actually the most visited Island in the Caribbean, and has the best thriving economy. DR is setting visitor records in 2025, and in addition to newly increased flights into PO (WestJet, Breeze Airlines), a lot of Americans fly into SD and Santiago and work their way up to the North Coast. It's a favorite of many Europeans, Germans, Dutch, Scandinavian who know a little about the sex business. LOL.

There are some beautiful girls in the DR, of every shape and every color of the rainbow, perfect for those of us who find Thai and Philippine girls lacking in those areas.

Prostitution is legal, so it is just an occupational choice, like a nurse or a cleaner. It is tolerated, even encouraged by the laid back locals and hotels and restaurants that benefit by the business.

Now, if you know anything about real estate, you know it's all about location, location, location, and Sosua has it! Relatively undeveloped, with cheap labor, it is a very attractive proposition for investors. I talk to them every day!

The only fly in the ointment is the bad rep cheap mongers and hoes, have given it. So. As I said before, the fight for control rests with the local businessmen and the outside investors, and the government is trying to make both sides happy, but money always wins out! So it's not at all. "what matters is what Native born Dominicans want".

But back to our hobby.

Since prostitution is a legal choice of work, there's a good chance that the full timers will carry on their business, but a little more discreetly, and the part timers who moonlight, in the stores, banks, malls and lined up on a Sunday in the local colmado will be open to a hola from a clean respectful guy!

It works for many of us, even at our advanced age!

Have at it! LOL.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3029638]I don't want to argue with you guys. I'm strictly a "to each his own" person, but I do know a little about Sosua having visited and lived here for 17 years, or so.

I've learned that posting anything positive about Sosua in this forum, brings out the jaded mongers who can't seem to adapt to the new realities, and make it work for them. They are living in the past, while life is passing them by. They really should take their own advice and move on, but they like their comradery here with the like minded, and so they stick around, looking for confirmation of their views. Of course we all know that if you spend enough time looking for something, you'll find it! LOL.

I'm not a member of "the hypocritical sexpat anti Passport Bro crowd" and I don't "drink coolade". As you can see, I'm a minority of one here in this forum!

But to recap, Sosua is a small town on a tropical Island in the Caribbean on the North Coast. It is a mere 4 miles from the International Airport in Puerto Plata, and 3 to 4 hours flying time from the major hubs in the Eastern USA And Canada. Weather's good, the people are friendly, the political system is stable. There is no street protests, arson or looting every time somebody is arrested. The tourists are quite safe if they behave in a civilized manner.

It's actually the most visited Island in the Caribbean, and has the best thriving economy. DR is setting visitor records in 2025, and in addition to newly increased flights into PO (WestJet, Breeze Airlines), a lot of Americans fly into SD and Santiago and work their way up to the North Coast. It's a favorite of many Europeans, Germans, Dutch, Scandinavian who know a little about the sex business. LOL.

There are some beautiful girls in the DR, of every shape and every color of the rainbow, perfect for those of us who find Thai and Philippine girls lacking in those areas.

Prostitution is legal, so it is just an occupational choice, like a nurse or a cleaner. It is tolerated, even encouraged by the laid back locals and hotels and restaurants that benefit by the business.

Now, if you know anything about real estate, you know it's all about location, location, location, and Sosua has it! Relatively undeveloped, with cheap labor, it is a very attractive proposition for investors. I talk to them every day!

The only fly in the ointment is the bad rep cheap mongers and hoes, have given it. So. As I said before, the fight for control rests with the local businessmen and the outside investors, and the government is trying to make both sides happy, but money always wins out! So it's not at all. "what matters is what Native born Dominicans want".

But back to our hobby.

Since prostitution is a legal choice of work, there's a good chance that the full timers will carry on their business, but a little more discreetly, and the part timers who moonlight, in the stores, banks, malls and lined up on a Sunday in the local colmado will be open to a hola from a clean respectful guy!

It works for many of us, even at our advanced age!

Have at it! LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm going to make a long series of posts on this subject that will provide context but I'm not sure it would pertain to you.

Bottom Line up Front.

If you're a weekend warrior type you should NOT go to Sosua!

Someone who goes this weekend looking for sea sand sun and sex will not find the latter BECAUSE he DOESN"T KNOW WHERE TO LOOK.

I provided detailed information about my first trip to the DR and the first women I met there. Like you I met a chica that worked at the Burger King at the food court of Agora Mall with the DR's job situation she's probably still there so with 17 years boots on ground You probably know by face every Sosua resident and certainly any and everyone in El Batey.

I'm also a Colombian expat and when people say come to the city I live in I tell them "If you want to come to Colombia on a first trip" You should go to the DR. Why because in Cali there's no official red light district well there is but it's controlled by gangsters.

I go there with nary an issue there was a monger who went there and got robbed. So I love Cali and can roll out the reasons I live here and why it's great and it's also increased tourism dramatcally.

But I cannot recommend it to the average especially newbie Monger.

To illustrate the point I literally got a text from a chica who was "stranded" in a town not far from here who needed funds to come back so I sent her the money.

She texted last night asking "when are we going to have a threesome?" I said we could do that but I'll pay the new chica the standard fare (25 usd) and I'll pay you half and half the next time you come to settle the debt.

I'm not bragging I'm an Expat so I don't go looking for pussy pussy comes to me. The new girl if good will be added to the rotation. Kinda hard to do that if you're down here on a three day bender not knowing how to say No in the local Pig Latin.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3029627]But you know Dominicans do not spend money like foreign tourist. They bring their own shit to make their party. They may use your chairs and umbrellas, but they are not spending money on shit else.[/QUOTE]Everyone knows this and to the mods I'm not bringing up race so I'll use the standard code words. The locals won't spend a tenth of what the Jet Blue "New York guys" spend and neither will the thrifty fifty year old snowbirds who will hang out on the beach go to Jolly Roger and have their one Beer and go home.

The only way this makes sense is if the Government was like an Old school New York Cabbie and said "No Brooklyn" and like the cabbies now that Uber (Cartagena) is around cabbies are going to wish they had those Brooklyn fares.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

If you're an expat you can make almost anyplace work for you because if you add a Johnny on The Spot minus a social safety net and make work jobs for women You'll get pussy. I knew a real pussy hound you took a three year contract in Quatar. I asked him how'd be make it. He easy You go to the malls and some chick slips you a piece of paper with a number to a what's app group and you just post to the group and some horny arab chick contacts you and comes straight over. The only problem is you have to fuck what comes through the door.

You might get a hot arab princess or an old fat broad. But obviously if you get caught you're in big trouble but she's in worse trouble and Dubai was just across the way.

I say this to say that If you're an expat Sosua is probably heaven on earth as is Cali Colombia but both places are suboptimal for the monger with little experience and far less time.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

AirBnB Shuts Down and leaves Dominican Republic due to sex tourism and passport bros many users are being permanently banned. This comes after Operation Atlantic in July 2025 combating Prostitution in Sosua which is being changed to a Luxury family friendly destination by 2026.

The president of Dominican Republic Luis Abinader has been combating the prostitution in Sosua Dominican Republic all through out 2025.

Billions of dollars from outside sources are going to be invested into Sosua later through out 2025 and 2026.

Sex tourists who have disguised themselves as passports bros are now panicking since the Dominican Republic is now using tourism money gathered through out the years for improvement of Sosua.

Sosua Dominican Republic will soon be a future family Luxury vacation.

Prostitution's and sex tourists will be getting arrested and the president of Dominican Republic promised that Sosua will get rid of its sex tourism reputation.

[QUOTE=Blakman;3029947]AirBnB Shuts Down and leaves Dominican Republic due to sex tourism and passport bros many users are being permanently banned. This comes after Operation Atlantic in July 2025 combating Prostitution in Sosua which is being changed to a Luxury family friendly destination by 2026.

The president of Dominican Republic Luis Abinader has been combating the prostitution in Sosua Dominican Republic all through out 2025.

Billions of dollars from outside sources are going to be invested into Sosua later through out 2025 and 2026.

Sex tourists who have disguised themselves as passports bros are now panicking since the Dominican Republic is now using tourism money gathered through out the years for improvement of Sosua.

Sosua Dominican Republic will soon be a future family Luxury vacation.

Prostitution's and sex tourists will be getting arrested and the president of Dominican Republic promised that Sosua will get rid of its sex tourism reputation.[/QUOTE]More nonsense!

Of course, everybody knows what will really really finish Sosua, is the catastrophic climate change that is predicted to arrive by 2016, according to a Nobel Winner.

[QUOTE=Blakman;3029947]AirBnB Shuts Down and leaves Dominican Republic due to sex tourism and passport bros many users are being permanently banned.[/QUOTE]Where is this from? Why do some guys never site sources? So you are saying my reservation will already be canceled when I arrive next week?

[QUOTE=Blakman;3029947]This comes after Operation Atlantic in July 2025 combating Prostitution in Sosua which is being changed to a Luxury family friendly destination by 2026. [/QUOTE]As everyone always says, we have seen this many times before. Maybe Clasico is just going to wait until high season to put the furniture back into the club. In about 3 or 4 weeks we should be good right guys?

[QUOTE=Blakman;3029947]AirBnB Shuts Down and leaves Dominican Republic due to sex tourism and passport bros many users are being permanently banned. This comes after Operation Atlantic in July 2025 combating Prostitution in Sosua which is being changed to a Luxury family friendly destination by 2026.

The president of Dominican Republic Luis Abinader has been combating the prostitution in Sosua Dominican Republic all through out 2025.

Billions of dollars from outside sources are going to be invested into Sosua later through out 2025 and 2026.

Sex tourists who have disguised themselves as passports bros are now panicking since the Dominican Republic is now using tourism money gathered through out the years for improvement of Sosua.

Sosua Dominican Republic will soon be a future family Luxury vacation.

Prostitution's and sex tourists will be getting arrested and the president of Dominican Republic promised that Sosua will get rid of its sex tourism reputation.[/QUOTE]Ain't nobody getting arrested. Cuba Dave could set up a Tent on Pedro right now if he wanted to.

Airbnb is affected though but that's about regulations not sex tourism per se.

I don't like the crackdown but at the end of the day with time anyone could make Sosua work if they wanted to.

But since they did state that they wanted sex tourism gone (while being fine with Blackbeards) Sex tourists shouldn't go.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3029959]More nonsense!

Of course, everybody knows what will really really finish Sosua, is the catastrophic climate change that is predicted to arrive by 2016, according to a Nobel Winner.[/QUOTE]Yes either that or the saragasm (which fucks up your power too) and the death of the protective reefd.

A couple of high profile murders and some arrests of foreigners could do the trick too.

You could have the old old Sosua meaning the 1980's Sosua and a agricultural town with mainly tourists from Santiago not Staten Island once the reports from Holloween start trickling in.

John from Casa de Comprai (another monger) did say the town was dead for *****mongers but alive for snowbirds. He didn't like what Mr. T was saying because less tourists in general meanis less tourists overall. Which is why Sosua is trying to have it both ways.

Cartagena manages the women and the passport bros better. The women generally come out at night and are dressed better. The Police are around but not aggressive and Colombia's reputation for crime does the rest. You piss off a sex worker and it's a snap to scope you or get you robbed.

Hope this helps.

Trip.

I just watched a YouTube video promoting Sosua the family Mecca for vacations. Not one brown person was in the 30 minutes of video. They selling the kool Aid.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3029989]Ain't nobody getting arrested. Cuba Dave could set up a Tent on Pedro right now if he wanted to.

Airbnb is affected though but that's about regulations not sex tourism per se.

I don't like the crackdown but at the end of the day with time anyone could make Sosua work if they wanted to.

But since they did state that they wanted sex tourism gone (while being fine with Blackbeards) Sex tourists shouldn't go..[/QUOTE]There are still tons of listings on Airbnb.

[URL]https://********/news/2025/07/14/crackdown-on-sex-tourism-in-sosua/[/URL]

Found a bit on a crackdown on pimps. Didn't find anything about crackdown on Airbnb. Never seen a pimp in Sosua either.

The one thing that is true is the girls are gone. A few local girls brave a few small venues. Sosua now has no night life. Willie the mayor who owns Classicos and the Casino has wasted thousands on a remodel has moved tables from Classicos to the casino. The big boys are not allowing bars on Pedro Clisante. Halloween will be a bell weather for Sosua. I am predicting a major flob.

I was talking to one of my regulars who works at in all inclusive in Punt Cana. She told me that tourist in Punta Cana was down. Never the less the DR government is pushing a major effort to rebrand Sosua. It is being teed up as family friendly paradise. The targeted market is the light skinned Dominicans. When watching the advertisements there is a lack of brown people unless serving tables. What is obvious that the DR committed to eliminating working girls in Sosua. Willie the mayor who has made millions from sex trade. Being a middle man has been co-opted. He is putting his eggs in the casino at Playa Chiquita. I do not think he had a choice. Some very powerful people are pushing the buttons.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;3030503]There are still tons of listings on Airbnb.

[URL]https://********/news/2025/07/14/crackdown-on-sex-tourism-in-sosua/[/URL]

Found a bit on a crackdown on pimps. Didn't find anything about crackdown on Airbnb. Never seen a pimp in Sosua either.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;3030503]There are still tons of listings on Airbnb.

[URL]https://********/news/2025/07/14/crackdown-on-sex-tourism-in-sosua/[/URL]

Found a bit on a crackdown on pimps. Didn't find anything about crackdown on Airbnb. Never seen a pimp in Sosua either.[/QUOTE]I clearly failed to communicate effectively because I said that there was no shutdown of Airbnb just that many hosts who had Guest Friendly in their description box was thrown off the app. My source is the Comprai expat channel on youtube who said he also had his property removed from the app.

He didn't say this directly but Monger to Monger he built his place as a mini all inclusive so that his mainly european guests can have their Haitian Girlfriends stay with them.

Additional there's no one with a multicolor ceramic cup in their hands but there's plenty of chulos on motochoncos.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=OldKool;3030577]The one thing that is true is the girls are gone. A few local girls brave a few small venues. Sosua now has no night life. Willie the mayor who owns Classicos and the Casino has wasted thousands on a remodel has moved tables from Classicos to the casino. The big boys are not allowing bars on Pedro Clisante. Halloween will be a bell weather for Sosua. I am predicting a major flob.

I was talking to one of my regulars who works at in all inclusive in Punt Cana. She told me that tourist in Punta Cana was down. Never the less the DR government is pushing a major effort to rebrand Sosua. It is being teed up as family friendly paradise. The targeted market is the light skinned Dominicans. When watching the advertisements there is a lack of brown people unless serving tables. What is obvious that the DR committed to eliminating working girls in Sosua. Willie the mayor who has made millions from sex trade. Being a middle man has been co-opted. He is putting his eggs in the casino at Playa Chiquita. I do not think he had a choice. Some very powerful people are pushing the buttons.[/QUOTE]Where did I disagree with you at?

One thing is true this particular board is kind of a gotcha debate space.

I have no crystal ball nor do I have boots on ground. All I ask is that people BE SPECIFIC everyone who loves sosua says " the girls are around" of course they are the answer is where. Used to be there were Pedro Clisante street concentrated between Sosua Inn and Kings on the corner of Dr. Rosen street.

Same thing about the Crackdown President Luis Abinder's relatives including a cousin has villas in the Sea Horse in Caberete among other investments. There's been a play for years that somehow Criuse ships are going to dock or at least get cruise passengers to come to Sosua.

Cuba Dave started the sky is falling talk in 2011. That's when I heard of him and his mongering buddy Andy Lee Graham. Vin Diesel and A-Rod is making investments on the north coast and Playa bargintin is comming online in the future they put tenders out for the Ambar Highway which will shorten the time for Santiago to Sosua.

The snowbirds are coming and some of them will take the equity in the red hot (overheated) Toronto Housing market and by in Sosua. They would rather not see hoes in Spandex on their way to the Germany Bar or Jolly Rogers for a sundowner.

Frankly if someone had say 20 to 40 million lying around I'd by up as much of the beach and LOS charamicos as a could either snowbirds or developers will buy lots for at least 6 times what you paid that that's now wait till after high season and that land will be cheaper, Take a look on the real estate sites damn near all of El Batey is for sale. The only holdouts is the hard core monger sexpats who bought businesses and are determined to ride it out.

All I ask is before you hit upload Report that you provide SPECIFICS because the anti and the pro passport bros are both right Tourism to DR is way up they just took the tourism awards in France and also Tourism in Sosua is way down as everyone admits and based on Tourist arrivals at POP as stated by Sosua anti Monger Cerise Fairfax.

Hope this Help.

TRIP.

The reason for the debate is that as far as I can tell this is the first instance that a certain demographic has been discouraged from spending much needed Tourist dollars in a place.

Some far left democrat might label it racism.

I'm not that so lets just chalk it up to a New York Cab saying " No Brooklyn". For the expat what's not to love a great beach super cheap laid back low crime good weather and girls galore.

Being johnny on the spot means you have leverage just like a old maid of mines called me saying she needs some boots for her construction job.

Yes the IG baddies from Santo are gone but there's a cornucopia of coochie from Montellano to Rio San Juan to choose from.

But "New Yorkers" That come down during federal holidays and during major US sporting events never heard of either place if there's not action on PC they stay home.

So unless Callado actually markets to New Yorkers they would assume that what's happening is an invitation to spend your time and money in Cartagena.

One thing will know for certain is that if Holloween is quiet that the Super bowl will be too.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3030640]Where did I disagree with you at?

One thing is true this particular board is kind of a gotcha debate space.

I have no crystal ball nor do I have boots on ground. All I ask is that people BE SPECIFIC everyone who loves sosua says " the girls are around" of course they are the answer is where. Used to be there were Pedro Clisante street concentrated between Sosua Inn and Kings on the corner of Dr. Rosen street.

Same thing about the Crackdown President Luis Abinder's relatives including a cousin has villas in the Sea Horse in Caberete among other investments. There's been a play for years that somehow Criuse ships are going to dock or at least get cruise passengers to come to Sosua.

Cuba Dave started the sky is falling talk in 2011. That's when I heard of him and his mongering buddy Andy Lee Graham. Vin Diesel and A-Rod is making investments on the north coast and Playa bargintin is comming online in the future they put tenders out for the Ambar Highway which will shorten the time for Santiago to Sosua.

The snowbirds are coming and some of them will take the equity in the red hot (overheated) Toronto Housing market and by in Sosua. They would rather not see hoes in Spandex on their way to the Germany Bar or Jolly Rogers for a sundowner.

Frankly if someone had say 20 to 40 million lying around I'd by up as much of the beach and LOS charamicos as a could either snowbirds or developers will buy lots for at least 6 times what you paid that that's now wait till after high season and that land will be cheaper, Take a look on the real estate sites damn near all of El Batey is for sale. The only holdouts is the hard core monger sexpats who bought businesses and are determined to ride it out.

All I ask is before you hit upload Report that you provide SPECIFICS because the anti and the pro passport bros are both right Tourism to DR is way up they just took the tourism awards in France and also Tourism in Sosua is way down as everyone admits and based on Tourist arrivals at POP as stated by Sosua anti Monger Cerise Fairfax.

Hope this Help.

TRIP.[/QUOTE]Not to make this too long but Abinder made a play for a third term that was shot down and he wants to cosy up with the guy in the White House maybe getting a job in DC like the last Colombian president did.

Beside the business play of being line to sell to developers and the possible IMF or UN jobs there's the fact that the PRM might not even win the next elections. By all accounts Luis is looking good excpet for the power situation and the health situation. If you live on the north cost you better have plenty of money so that you can fly to Miami to get treatment.

Willy boy is in another political party. That small party teams up with the Public force and Callado loses his shot at the big hoiuse in Gazcue.

In short there's several good reasons to own land in Sosua whether the girls are there or not Willy could and will sell Classicos and the Casino to whomever will buy.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=OldKool;3030454]I just watched a YouTube video promoting Sosua the family Mecca for vacations. Not one brown person was in the 30 minutes of video. They selling the kool Aid.[/QUOTE]I said in this thread years ago that I felt the whole family rebranding was just a pretext to get a certain demographic out and attract more white tourists and light skin Dominicans.

I haven't been on this site in months and I'm surprised about the Sosua news. I'm taking off for several destinations in a few weeks, I've now added Sosua to my itinerary. I love sitting at Playa Alicia all day and in the old days there would be like 10 people max. The last time I was there, it was almost crowded and every person had their portable speakers. I'll enjoy actually listening to the waves again. Back in the day (10-15 years ago), I enjoyed going out and dancing to Salsa, Merengue and Reggaeton at the clubs (I can only tolerate Bachata in small chunks). Last couple of times there, I had to basically travel outside of town if I wanted to hear anything other than American rap.

My ideal vacation has always been to relax, sit in the sun (I live in Seattle, we don't get much) go dance at night and then bring home a girl. On occasions, I would just hang out with a girl all day. Sosua used to be perfect for that. The last couple of times I went, Sosua was simply too much for me. The noise, the rude men, the non stop hookers constantly harassing me. It will be nice to see a change. It may be different, but for some reason, I don't think I'll have too much trouble finding someone to hang out with me, hell, it might even be easier now that every woman won't be looking to race back to my place the second they meet me. In the end, even if I don't get laid (impossible), I think I'll enjoy a quieter, tamer Sosua.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3030834]I don't think I'll have too much trouble finding someone to hang out with me, hell, it might even be easier now that every woman won't be looking to race back to my place the second they meet me. In the end, even if I don't get laid (impossible), I think I'll enjoy a quieter, tamer Sosua.[/QUOTE]I think you are missing the fact that the reason there are no dudes there is because there are no chicks there. But enjoy Alicia Beach.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3030834]I think I'll enjoy a quieter, tamer Sosua.[/QUOTE]I think I could do it with a car because I like to hit different spots like Cabarete, Puerto Plata, Blackbeards and so on, anyway. Even Santiago for the Car Washes, etc. But just going to a deserted beach or chica free beach everyday would get old fast for me. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3030856]I think I could do it with a car because I like to hit different spots like Cabarete, Puerto Plata, Blackbeards and so on, anyway. Even Santiago for the Car Washes, etc. But just going to a deserted beach or chica free beach everyday would get old fast for me. Good luck and let us know how it goes.[/QUOTE]I simply work my ass off so I can disappear for 3 one month trips per year. I'm going to sound like a geek, but sitting on a beach 6-7 hours per day reading a book or doing crossword puzzles is simply heaven for me. I would prefer to get laid occasionally, but if it doesn't happen, I'll live. There are always the massage places there and with the exception of one that I went to last time I was there, they are always good for a quick fuck or BJ. I think the harder part will be no nightlife. I really do like going out at night and having fun. I'm not afraid of Tinder or actually taking taking a local woman on a date (I actually prefer it). Anyway, I have 3 weeks in a couple of other countries to get that done if Sosua sucks. I'll be there on the 22nd and the head to Santo Domingo to fly out to Cartagena for Dio de LOS Muertos and then off to Buenos Aires.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3030639]I clearly failed to communicate effectively because I said that there was no shutdown of Airbnb just that many hosts who had Guest Friendly in their description box was thrown off the app. My source is the Comprai expat channel on youtube who said he also had his property removed from the app.

He didn't say this directly but Monger to Monger he built his place as a mini all inclusive so that his mainly european guests can have their Haitian Girlfriends stay with them.

Additional there's no one with a multicolor ceramic cup in their hands but there's plenty of chulos on motochoncos..[/QUOTE]Thanks for clarifying. I always stay at Airbnb's when in Sosua. It'd be interesting to see if security guards will start turning chicas away.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;3030899]Thanks for clarifying. I always stay at Airbnb's when in Sosua. It'd be interesting to see if security guards will start turning chicas away.[/QUOTE]No one is turning chicas away and actually there will be way less "bad chicas" around now so you should be good.

Basically EVERYTHING IS THE SAME the difference is no one can say they're guest friendly. If you stay in the same Airbnb you should be good.

The only difference is that you won't see any chicas on the strip.

If you're like Michael 1967 and you want a nice laid back vacation maybe with a chica everyonce in a while the Sue is your jam If you like a corucopia of coohie to choose from go elsewhere.

It's unlikely that you'll have a chica of your choice everynight of your stay if this is Ok then the Sue is for you.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

They just sent me and email out the blue and stated they did a review and I violated their strict policy. It was strange because I had no visitors when in Brazil and previous 2 trips was in 24 Nov and April with excellent reviews. Any how for DR I have a non airbnb connect. But will seek other options elsewhere. They do allow you an appeal.

First workaround if someone is willing to risk it use another account to get them to book you meaning use someone else's account to inquire about a rental and see if they'll rent off app a surprising amount especially in Passport bro central cities will. As a former superhost the average Airbnb gets around 47% occupancy and in Sosua where people buy one bedroom condos specifically to rent they'll defenitely rent off app usually they put their number in like oNe twO thrEe or something like that.

Additionally if you get a new phone a new email and use a different card after a couple of months you can just set up a new account. Again Airbnb kicks people off for reasons and usually it's a host that you pissed off or they're getting in front of you leaving a bad review.

Don't sweat it new email new number new phone and new card you add a new ID like say a passport instead of a Driver's License and you can trick the Algorithm quicker.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3030990]No one is turning chicas away and actually there will be way less "bad chicas" around now so you should be good.

Basically EVERYTHING IS THE SAME the difference is no one can say they're guest friendly. If you stay in the same Airbnb you should be good.

The only difference is that you won't see any chicas on the strip.

If you're like Michael 1967 and you want a nice laid back vacation maybe with a chica everyonce in a while the Sue is your jam If you like a corucopia of coohie to choose from go elsewhere.

It's unlikely that you'll have a chica of your choice everynight of your stay if this is Ok then the Sue is for you..[/QUOTE]That's good to know. I usually go with a buddy, and we love rentals in Sosua. Can have an upscale penthouse or pool villa at a cost of a hotel room (divided by 2). Although, the rates are a little higher this year, but everything is higher nowadays.

On the other hand, with no girls on the streets I don't know how to work around that. I've been visiting Sue on and off for almost 30 years, but never bothered to build a list. It's not about having a girl every night, that's not important, but I'm not a Tinder guy.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3031053]First workaround if someone is willing to risk it use another account to get them to book you meaning use someone else's account to inquire about a rental and see if they'll rent off app a surprising amount especially in Passport bro central cities will. As a former superhost the average Airbnb gets around 47% occupancy and in Sosua where people buy one bedroom condos specifically to rent they'll defenitely rent off app usually they put their number in like oNe twO thrEe or something like that.

Additionally if you get a new phone a new email and use a different card after a couple of months you can just set up a new account. Again Airbnb kicks people off for reasons and [b]usually it's a host that you pissed off or they're getting in front of you leaving a bad review.[/b].[/QUOTE]100%. A pissed-off host might not even bother with a negative review (for one thing, potential guests don't like reading hosts bitching about other guests), but all it takes is quietly reach out to Airbnb and file a complaint. I would appeal unless it's likely there were more than one or 2 complaints.

[QUOTE=Blakman;3031034]They just sent me and email out the blue and stated they did a review and I violated their strict policy. It was strange because I had no visitors when in Brazil and previous 2 trips was in 24 Nov and April with excellent reviews. Any how for DR I have a non airbnb connect. But will seek other options elsewhere. They do allow you an appeal.[/QUOTE]What the fuck? Fuck Airbnb then. I will not be using them in the future.

What the fuck do they care what two people decide to do with their time and money. This is some fucking weird shit.

[QUOTE=Blakman;3031034]They just sent me and email out the blue and stated they did a review and I violated their strict policy.[/QUOTE]What strict policy? Do you have any screenshots or anything of this email? What you have written is as clear as mud.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3031070]What the fuck? Fuck Airbnb then. I will not be using them in the future.

What the fuck do they care what two people decide to do with their time and money. This is some fucking weird shit.[/QUOTE]I think you missed the videos of hookers getting pissed off at dudes and destroying things in some of these people's nice homes and doing shit like causing a ruckus in complexes where people live.

They owners of these places do not care about what two people decide to do with their time and money as long as you send those two people's IDs ahead of time. But if you are going to be saying fuck airbnb because of this, then I am afraid your choices will be limited around the world because most hotels also require people to check in with IDs.

You do not get free reign because you decide to rent a place from someone. Some places do not allow parties and some places want you to put the sheets in the washer before you leave and some places want you out before 8 am. It is their place, their rules, not your money your rules. It is easy to scroll down and see the rules of each place before you click to reserve it.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3031070]What the fuck? Fuck Airbnb then. I will not be using them in the future.
[/QUOTE]That's the only way to roll, brother!

If they have the product, they make the rules.

You might be able to find a way to get around the rules, but no good can ever come from that!

If they don't want your business, just move on!

It's like expecting a girl who is down to her last dollar late at night and agrees to cut her normal rate, to give you GFE service!

Not worth the trouble.

But if you are cool a lot of good things can happen. Places I've stayed have had strict guest rules for their own protection, like Casa Valeria, Garden Condos, Infiniti Blu, but for a regular discreet guest, a nod from the owner and t's often just up to the security guard. He can be your best friend! I've had multiple guests overnight in all places I've stayed, except Casa Marin AI.

[QUOTE]What the fuck do they care what two people decide to do with their time and money. This is some fucking weird shit.[/QUOTE]Trouble is, some monger's behavior can affect their other cool clients. LOL.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;3031069]That's good to know. I usually go with a buddy, and we love rentals in Sosua. Can have an upscale penthouse or pool villa at a cost of a hotel room (divided by 2). Although, the rates are a little higher this year, but everything is higher nowadays.

On the other hand, with no girls on the streets I don't know how to work around that. I've been visiting Sue on and off for almost 30 years, but never bothered to build a list. It's not about having a girl every night, that's not important, but I'm not a Tinder guy.

100%. A pissed-off host might not even bother with a negative review (for one thing, potential guests don't like reading hosts bitching about other guests), but all it takes is quietly reach out to Airbnb and file a complaint. I would appeal unless it's likely there were more than one or 2 complaints.[/QUOTE]Airbnb is very sensitive to complaints so it comes down to who complains first. I don't write a real review unless the problem was so serious I complained to Arbnb and if the superhost has an issue or even take pictures of another guest who trashed the place they could make it seem like it was you and you'd be "banned" from the app.

If you're not a Tinder guy I really wouldn't go because it's all online now. Unless someone tells you I suggest you cancel or go to Puerta Plata or Santo Domingo instead.

But for non digital guys the best places are Cartagena or Pattaya.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3031166]I think you missed the videos of hookers getting pissed off at dudes and destroying things in some of these people's nice homes and doing shit like causing a ruckus in complexes where people live.

They owners of these places do not care about what two people decide to do with their time and money as long as you send those two people's IDs ahead of time. But if you are going to be saying fuck airbnb because of this, then I am afraid your choices will be limited around the world because most hotels also require people to check in with IDs.

You do not get free reign because you decide to rent a place from someone. Some places do not allow parties and some places want you to put the sheets in the washer before you leave and some places want you out before 8 am. It is their place, their rules, not your money your rules. It is easy to scroll down and see the rules of each place before you click to reserve it.[/QUOTE]The DR always provided an answer for that Cabanas. Take a chick there knock her off go back to your hotel done.

But dudes want to see the parade of pussy and they want a pretend girlfriend to overnight with.

***** causes a commotion and you think a payment to a cop and it's over that super host has your credit card they see something broken and pictures get uploaded to the app and cards get charged.

Ask me how I know this. I was a airbnb superhost.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3031167]That's the only way to roll, brother!

If they have the product, they make the rules.

You might be able to find a way to get around the rules, but no good can ever come from that!

If they don't want your business, just move on!

It's like expecting a girl who is down to her last dollar late at night and agrees to cut her normal rate, to give you GFE service!

Not worth the trouble.

But if you are cool a lot of good things can happen. Places I've stayed have had strict guest rules for their own protection, like Casa Valeria, Garden Condos, Infiniti Blu, but for a regular discreet guest, a nod from the owner and t's often just up to the security guard. He can be your best friend! I've had multiple guests overnight in all places I've stayed, except Casa Marin AI.

Trouble is, some monger's behavior can affect their other cool clients. LOL.[/QUOTE]Funny story in America I met a chick who I dealt with years before and since I was in her town I hit her up on Instagram she agreed to a date for way more than I paid overseas.

\during the negotiations to justify to myself why I paid so much I demanded all night bareback for everything she agreed.

I was still somewhat new to mongering I picked her up got the hotel and we went to the ATM (because I didn't have the money on me) and I asked her why did she agree to fuck without me having the money and she said "Because I knew I could trust you" Remember she forgot we dealt with other years ago. What I think she meant was she knew I was going to be an International trick.

Since then I lived a year in the Domincan Republic and several years is dangerous Colombia no chica proofiing no condoms no concerns.

Generally if you treat people they want they want to be treated you'll have no problems I certainly haven't.

Not bragging just understanding what people want and giving it to them. Usually a chick doesn't want to stay overnight because she has to get back home or in the case of Old Sosua they had to maximize the money they made especially if they agreed to be with you at a "discount".

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3031166]I think you missed the videos of hookers getting pissed off at dudes and destroying things in some of these people's nice homes and doing shit like causing a ruckus in complexes where people live.

They owners of these places do not care about what two people decide to do with their time and money as long as you send those two people's IDs ahead of time. But if you are going to be saying fuck airbnb because of this, then I am afraid your choices will be limited around the world because most hotels also require people to check in with IDs.

You do not get free reign because you decide to rent a place from someone. Some places do not allow parties and some places want you to put the sheets in the washer before you leave and some places want you out before 8 am. It is their place, their rules, not your money your rules. It is easy to scroll down and see the rules of each place before you click to reserve it.[/QUOTE]I was referring to Blakman stating he got banned for no reason. Of course you can't fuck a rental property up or violate their policies. Trust me, I was a landlord many years and I dealt with some crazy shit you wouldn't believe. Arson, shootings, drug deals. It was why I got out of that shit once market went up.

I though Blakman was saying he got banned because they identified him a sex tourist and DR is cracking down on sex tourists?

You get an email saying that you been banned permanently. They don't provide any facts of misbehavior, just that they did a review. I thought it was a prank email. But I did the appeal with no success. I think AIRBNB is under lots of pressure because of criminal activities via their business. And they need data to show they are cleaning up there way of doing business. They maybe checking not only reviews but also text messages with host.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3031161]What strict policy? Do you have any screenshots or anything of this email? What you have written is as clear as mud.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3031219]I though Blakman was saying he got banned because they identified him a sex tourist and DR is cracking down on sex tourists?[/QUOTE]Even still, you will have a long row to hoe. I do not know if you read the Medellin section today where Colombia has banned guys they have identified as sex tourists. Are you not going there anymore as well? Or are you still going to go there but just not use an airbnb?

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3031178]

Generally if you treat people they want they want to be treated you'll have no problems I certainly haven't.

Trip.[/QUOTE]This is probably one one truest things I've seen on this site. I'm very polite and respectful to all the women I meet. The problem for me in Sosua (before the raids), was that to the women being polite and respectful meant you were a sucker. Though I got laid nightly the last time I was there, I felt my trip was a failure. I was being a gentleman and the ratchet women simply didn't have time for it. I think my last night there was the best for me. I met someone for dinner at the nice restaurant on the water (she dressed perfectly for it) we then went dancing off the main drag (where she was surprised I could Bachata) and ended the night at Blue Ice (a place she was never allowed in) and she bonded with the girls, talked to the management and, if she were smart, set herself up to get inside later so she could possibly find better quality men. We went back to my place and a condom wasn't even discussed. She simply told me to not finish in her.

Cartagena is different, the women seem to appreciate being treated well and on my last trip, I got laid one or two times per day and used a condom maybe 25% of the time. My doctor did prescribe an antibiotic for to take after unprotected sex that will prevent Chlamydia and Gonnerhea (my naturopath specializes in sexual health so I tell him everything and he schedules regular STI / STD testing for me as well as generic Cialis in case I need it), so I didn't worry about catching anything. At home in Seattle, I use a condom about 10% of the time. Same thing, I treat them well and their rules go out the window.

I did book 8 days in Sosua in two weeks and after going to that video site and seeing numerous reports from there, I think I may have booked too many days. If it's horrible, I may do some traveling to get away from there (or leave early for Cartagena).

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3031171]If you're not a Tinder guy I really wouldn't go because it's all online now. Unless someone tells you I suggest you cancel or go to Puerta Plata or Santo Domingo instead.

But for non digital guys the best places are Cartagena or Pattaya.

Hope this Helps..[/QUOTE]Thanks!

Since my vacation time is limited, a monger destination should meet a certain condition to me. Like nice beaches, good restaurants, upscale yet affordable lodging options.

My favorite playground is Brazil, but it's so far away you won't go there for just a few days. Cartagena is closer and a cool historic city, but the beaches suck, mongering is way too pricey, and the touts are just maddening. Pattaya is even further away, the beach is non-swimmable, and from the ISG reports the mongering has gone to hell in the recent years. If I make it back to Thailand, it won't be Pattaya. Maybe Hua Hing or Samui.

But again, there is nothing like a 3. 5 hour flight from JFK.

With the fall of Sosua, the last feasible mongering destination in our backyard is lost. (LOL) Or what the hell, maybe I'll retrain myself to use Tinder.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3031265]This is probably one one truest things I've seen on this site. I'm very polite and respectful to all the women I meet. The problem for me in Sosua (before the raids), was that to the women being polite and respectful meant you were a sucker. Though I got laid nightly the last time I was there, I felt my trip was a failure. I was being a gentleman and the ratchet women simply didn't have time for it. I think my last night there was the best for me. I met someone for dinner at the nice restaurant on the water (she dressed perfectly for it) we then went dancing off the main drag (where she was surprised I could Bachata) and ended the night at Blue Ice (a place she was never allowed in) and she bonded with the girls, talked to the management and, if she were smart, set herself up to get inside later so she could possibly find better quality men. We went back to my place and a condom wasn't even discussed. She simply told me to not finish in her.

Cartagena is different, the women seem to appreciate being treated well and on my last trip, I got laid one or two times per day and used a condom maybe 25% of the time. My doctor did prescribe an antibiotic for to take after unprotected sex that will prevent Chlamydia and Gonnerhea (my naturopath specializes in sexual health so I tell him everything and he schedules regular STI / STD testing for me as well as generic Cialis in case I need it), so I didn't worry about catching anything. At home in Seattle, I use a condom about 10% of the time. Same thing, I treat them well and their rules go out the window.

I did book 8 days in Sosua in two weeks and after going to that video site and seeing numerous reports from there, I think I may have booked too many days. If it's horrible, I may do some traveling to get away from there (or leave early for Cartagena).[/QUOTE]My experience in sosua was more in the daytime once I went to Sosua with a clown off this very site who left me there while he chased a chick in Puerta Plata. I literally went up there just to ride up with him.

I wasn't planning to monger but I met a girl who worked at the casino who "wasn't a sex worker" who fucked all night for "free" we got some weed (for her) and some pica pollo and drinks.

I thought Sosua's wild you'll fuck even when you're not planning to fuck. I lived in SD and she agreed to meet me in Santiago (never happened).

Point is I talked to her normally and we fucked without any problem like I always do. Never attempted to pick up at night except twice both during COVID at the Anhvee. One agreed to come to my place in caberete and stay all night she didn't.

The other was from a girl from Cali ironically nothing techincally bad but she tried to upselll me.

Other than that my experiences in Sosua has been wonderful. The girls were chasing the big money at night deals made in the day time was the standard 2500 DOP.

One other thing according to Detras del Rumor facebook page Rey the owner of Kings was violently arrested.

And the furniture was taken out of Classico's when that happened at the Anhvee a couple of weeks later it was closed.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3031293]My experience in sosua was more in the daytime once I went to Sosua with a clown off this very site who left me there while he chased a chick in Puerta Plata. I literally went up there just to ride up with him.

I wasn't planning to monger but I met a girl who worked at the casino who "wasn't a sex worker" who fucked all night for "free" we got some weed (for her) and some pica pollo and drinks.

I thought Sosua's wild you'll fuck even when you're not planning to fuck. I lived in SD and she agreed to meet me in Santiago (never happened).

Point is I talked to her normally and we fucked without any problem like I always do. Never attempted to pick up at night except twice both during COVID at the Anhvee. One agreed to come to my place in caberete and stay all night she didn't..[/QUOTE]Since you and Mr E don't recommend Sosua as a place to monger, at least you both seem to have no trouble picking up Sosua locals, lawyers, realtors, cops, nurses and casino workers for free pussy, when you get somehow dragged there by 'circumstances" other than mongering.

That's a rare talent you guys have, especially in Sosua.

Kudos to you guys!

But it does explain why some guys stay on top of every happening in Sosua, and post about it here, even when they're advising folks not to go there!

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3031293]And the furniture was taken out of Classico's [b]when that happened at the Anhvee a couple of weeks later it was closed.[/b][/QUOTE]Man you be remembering some shit. But in Clasico's case, it never opened. Somebody somewhere said they moved the furniture down to the casino. In the Anhvee case I remember some people saying the furniture was getting repossessed and others saying they were just getting new furniture. Whatever the case, it did end up being closed like a mf.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3031317]..... you both seem to have no trouble picking up Sosua locals, lawyers, realtors, cops, nurses and casino workers for free pussy,......[/QUOTE]You omitted to mention the doctors.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3031260]Even still, you will have a long row to hoe. I do not know if you read the Medellin section today where Colombia has banned guys they have identified as sex tourists. Are you not going there anymore as well? Or are you still going to go there but just not use an airbnb?[/QUOTE]I currently have a fully refundable trip booked to Colombia, and I may cancel and book another destination. I have been avoiding Colombia due to the druggings the last few years. I really don't want to go where I am not wanted. I heard they have been going hard checking guys phones at the airports. Not that there is anything in my phone, I just don't feel like dealing with that shit and its easy to pick a new spot.

I have always preferred hotels over Airbnb anyway. Airbnb is usually cheaper though.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3031323]Man you be remembering some shit. But in Clasico's case, it never opened. Somebody somewhere said they moved the furniture down to the casino. In the Anhvee case I remember some people saying the furniture was getting repossessed and others saying they were just getting new furniture. Whatever the case, it did end up being closed like a mf.[/QUOTE]I remember how on TMBTS the Ahnvee guy was a daily contributor and when that went down he went silent along with it.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3031391]I currently have a fully refundable trip booked to Colombia, and I may cancel and book another destination. I have been avoiding Colombia due to the druggings the last few years. I really don't want to go where I am not wanted. I heard they have been going hard checking guys phones at the airports.[/QUOTE]Man go ahead. I would not worry about any of that shit. When you get there you will not even remember any of that stuff is a thing.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3031317]Since you and Mr E don't recommend Sosua as a place to monger, at least you both seem to have no trouble picking up Sosua locals, lawyers, realtors, cops, nurses and casino workers for free pussy, when you get somehow dragged there by 'circumstances" other than mongering.

That's a rare talent you guys have, especially in Sosua.

Kudos to you guys!

But it does explain why some guys stay on top of every happening in Sosua, and post about it here, even when they're advising folks not to go there![/QUOTE]Cmon Oakie you yourself said that you could pick up girls anywhere when asked where the girls where, and as a fellow expat I believe you because it's the same for me.

Remember I said a couple posts back that a chica called for a threesome? I did the threesome and today the other chica called so I dealt with her. She enquired about more money and I told her "bring aanother chica".

Again not bragging just expat life.

There's a lot I want to say but I'll put in in the rants section.

Could you state exactly what your opinion is?

I'll state mines Sosua is a backwater beach town that was purpose built for sex tourism the powers that be want it gone so they can sell to developers. It's not even sex tourism they hate it's a certain demographic more evidence is Rey's face plastered on media sites and looks like he'll be deported in record time.

I find that to be a little unfair. Give me Chaotic Colombia where crime is so high they don't have time to harrass Business owners on humble charges.

By the way there's been over 700 murders in Cali this year. I wouldn't recommend people come here either.

I will say that Cartagena has what most weekend warrior types are looking for.

What say you?

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3031323]Man you be remembering some shit. But in Clasico's case, it never opened. Somebody somewhere said they moved the furniture down to the casino. In the Anhvee case I remember some people saying the furniture was getting repossessed and others saying they were just getting new furniture. Whatever the case, it did end up being closed like a mf.[/QUOTE]Yes in both cases "New Yorkers" liked a place seemed to be dong good business and CLOSED. Granted the administration and working capital messed up the Anhvee but that's how it started. I remember the failed Strip Club they had for like one second at the Anhvee.

We can't have anything.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3031351]You omitted to mention the doctors.[/QUOTE]I don't remember the long conversation about the nail techs. A doctors salary is technically around 1100 USD. Not enough to buy a car Women like things and want Men to give it to them. Theres a nurses strike at a hospital in Puerta Plata and a scandal with cancer treatment in Santiago you think a chic wouldn't suck some dick to pay for nana's radiation treatment?

Hope this helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3031391]I currently have a fully refundable trip booked to Colombia, and I may cancel and book another destination. I have been avoiding Colombia due to the druggings the last few years. I really don't want to go where I am not wanted. I heard they have been going hard checking guys phones at the airports. Not that there is anything in my phone, I just don't feel like dealing with that shit and its easy to pick a new spot.

I have always preferred hotels over Airbnb anyway. Airbnb is usually cheaper though.[/QUOTE]There's plenty of other places to go. I will say that Meddy had a crackdown on druggings. I guess if you swiped right on any obvious A. I. Slop you might get got but they have broken up a few mobs I heard about the phone checks and their might be some profiling but no one I know said they've been pulled in and they're mainly "New Yorkers". So although biased I'd say come on down.

But Panama is right there expensive but safe as sundays.

Hope this helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Lakeside32;3031401]I remember how on TMBTS the Ahnvee guy was a daily contributor and when that went down he went silent along with it.[/QUOTE]TMBTS was a great resource, A ton of nonsense but great information down to posting girls IG accounts frankly when TMBTS went down it was the ending of the beginning of the end.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;3031274]Thanks!

Since my vacation time is limited, a monger destination should meet a certain condition to me. Like nice beaches, good restaurants, upscale yet affordable lodging options.

My favorite playground is Brazil, but it's so far away you won't go there for just a few days. Cartagena is closer and a cool historic city, but the beaches suck, mongering is way too pricey, and the touts are just maddening. Pattaya is even further away, the beach is non-swimmable, and from the ISG reports the mongering has gone to hell in the recent years. If I make it back to Thailand, it won't be Pattaya. Maybe Hua Hing or Samui.

But again, there is nothing like a 3. 5 hour flight from JFK.

With the fall of Sosua, the last feasible mongering destination in our backyard is lost. (LOL) Or what the hell, maybe I'll retrain myself to use Tinder.[/QUOTE]If you have to come to DR go to Punta Cana or SD and hit the beach at Boca and pick up in the clubs.

The sex prison walls in the states got higher so you have to pay more or go further.

Looks like the best option is Carty no matter where you go I hope you have a good time.

I hear the casino is open so maybe there's some action there.

If you go let us know.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3031448]Cmon Oakie you yourself said that you could pick up girls anywhere when asked where the girls where, and as a fellow expat I believe you because it's the same for me.

Remember I said a couple posts back that a chica called for a threesome? I did the threesome and today the other chica called so I dealt with her. She enquired about more money and I told her "bring aanother chica".

Again not bragging just expat life.

There's a lot I want to say but I'll put in in the rants section.

Could you state exactly what your opinion is?

I'll state mines Sosua is a backwater beach town that was purpose built for sex tourism the powers that be want it gone so they can sell to developers. It's not even sex tourism they hate it's a certain demographic more evidence is Rey's face plastered on media sites and looks like he'll be deported in record time.

I find that to be a little unfair. Give me Chaotic Colombia where crime is so high they don't have time to harrass Business owners on humble charges.

By the way there's been over 700 murders in Cali this year. I wouldn't recommend people come here either.

I will say that Cartagena has what most weekend warrior types are looking for.

What say you?

Hope this Helps.

Trip.[/QUOTE]Simply put, I have a 17 year posting record here.

During that time, I've been tagged teamed and gangbanged by Sosua haters / Oakie haters who's line has been, "if you like Sosua, you are, too cheap to go anywhere else, or don't know any better, or enjoy being ripped off, and much worse personal insults. I'm not normally aggressive, but pay back to the few remaining perps, is fair play in my book, and I have a little fun, pointing out the gross inconsistencies, and outright mis-information spread about Sosua which is mostly third hand rumor from some chic, or some guy they know. Monger rumors and speculation and predictions are not a good guide for the average newbie.

Like the alleged Syphilus outbreak, Domincans as racist, thieves and scammers, and other descriptions that apply more to the other places they keep coming here to recommend.

You yourself said, Sosua had never been a party place anyway, when the opposite is true. Ask anybody about the good old days! LOL. Even now they still complain about how great it used to be.

Fact is Sosua has many features that make it worth one's time. After travelling half the world it's still the best, laid back, safe spot to live, among people who are welcoming, happy, helpful, and it's hard to pin racist on them, when you look around at the world. They have street smarts too, and they are more than capable of holding their own against mongers who come with their superior attitudes! That's why a lot of negative mongers get pissed off, and bad mouth the place!

But back to the situation!

DR is a Western oriented developing nation, and wants to reign in the nightly circus that takes over Main Street. It's the 21st Century fer chrissakes.

But if you listen to the politicians, nobody wants ban prostitution, it's a cultural thing, like every other place in the world. What they want to do is shove it under the table, restrict it to certain areas, where it's not disturbing the peace.

Change, evolution, progress, call it what you will, is here to stay!

But you can adapt and make it work nicely for you, unless you need to have your hookers collected for you, organized by semi legal pimps, and presented to you, with a Menu nailed to their asses.

Oh. And a complaints department! LOL.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3031457]If you have to come to DR go to Punta Cana or SD and hit the beach at Boca and pick up in the clubs.[/QUOTE]If he does not like the beaches in Pattaya and Cartagena (in both place you take boats to get to the good beaches on islands), then he sure as hell will not like the beach in Boca Chica. I was there 2 days ago. I have no problem swimming at the beaches in Boca Grande in Cartagena or Jomtien in Pattaya, but I was not getting in that shit in Boca Chica. I have never seen it like that before.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3031454]There's plenty of other places to go. I will say that Meddy had a crackdown on druggings. I guess if you swiped right on any obvious A. I. Slop you might get got but they have broken up a few mobs I heard about the phone checks and their might be some profiling but no one I know said they've been pulled in and they're mainly "New Yorkers". So although biased I'd say come on down.

But Panama is right there expensive but safe as sundays.

Hope this helps.

Trip.[/QUOTE]Anyone can be sent into secondary and have their shit checked. My last trip to Colombia as a tourist I was pulled aside at Pereira airport and made to stand there until everyone in line had been processed and then they took me into secondary and held me for three hours while they went through my phone and laptop. I told them that I had a child here etc. ,fortunately I had a notarized copy of her birth certificate and they called my baby mama and made her write a message to them via email stating that I was indeed the father and they finally let me go. I am 68 years old no criminal record, nothing on my devices to cause issues and I am not a passport bro or a "New Yorker". This was almost three years ago. I now have residency and a cedula and have come and gone many times with zero questions.

My point is that it can happen to anyone.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3031556]Anyone can be sent into secondary and have their shit checked. My last trip to Colombia as a tourist I was pulled aside at Pereira airport and made to stand there until everyone in line had been processed and then they took me into secondary and held me for three hours while they went through my phone and laptop. I told them that I had a child here etc. ,fortunately I had a notarized copy of her birth certificate and they called my baby mama and made her write a message to them via email stating that I was indeed the father and they finally let me go. I am 68 years old no criminal record, nothing on my devices to cause issues and I am not a passport bro or a "New Yorker". This was almost three years ago. I now have residency and a cedula and have come and gone many times with zero questions.

My point is that it can happen to anyone.[/QUOTE]Absolutely, I'm a one bagger and I have a funny name and I always get stopped I'll even be more honest I overstayed my first trip based on bad information that I went to the state to rectify I was let in with nary a whisper. Maybe it's because I flew direct to Cali. When I flew into BOG last time I was asked questions but not pulled in for additional screen even though I dress "causal contractor" In fact I was made at the mall by another american because of my footwear.

I guess the issue is who do you love? I can see and was told by several dyed in the wool Dominican expats that Colombia was way too "dangerous" for them Anyone who knows anything about Colombia knows that the place that you use as a handle is far safer than Sosua or Seattle. The whole point of posting is to give people ideas. For some people the Sue is where they want to be (and Mr. T did post that Bar central was jumping and you can fuck Haitians on site).

For others theres other places to explore. Have at it!

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

Dominicans can do whatever they like in their country including not following their own laws. If they don't want to use P4P as a natural economic advantage, let it be. However, they successfully killed all entertainment in the town, including Dominican venues. Somehow, turning Sos. Into a place for Dominicans has never crossed their minds. Discos, karaoke place, dance to rent. Everything is gone. They have even uprooted the natural Almendros trees and planted palms trees instead. They will never ever be able to compete with P Cana and area, can't supply water, electricity can't offer proper food catering, can't solve airport issues and much more. The most puzzling thing is P4P has nothing to do with their wish to unload some land properties.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3031547]If he does not like the beaches in Pattaya and Cartagena (in both place you take boats to get to the good beaches on islands), then he sure as hell will not like the beach in Boca Chica. I was there 2 days ago. I have no problem swimming at the beaches in Boca Grande in Cartagena or Jomtien in Pattaya, but I was not getting in that shit in Boca Chica. I have never seen it like that before.[/QUOTE]Funny you mentioned BC. Went there once almost 30 years ago and told myself never again. Not because the sea was dirty (it wasn't, back then at least) but because you walk and walk and your balls are still over the water. Had a great time though with a TSM bunch if anyone remembers that one. It was a fun trip. I covered SD, BC, Santiago and Sosua in 2 weeks. Good times.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;3031670]Funny you mentioned BC. Went there once almost 30 years ago and told myself never again. Not because the sea was dirty (it wasn't, back then at least) but because you walk and walk and your balls are still over the water. [/QUOTE]Dude. It was not dirty 2 months ago. You could walk out and still see the bottom. But now all of a sudden a bunch of trash is seen in the water and it helps none that it is also sargassum season. I was about to go take a dip and my girl said you are going in that as dirty as it is? I said it is nothing but sargassum. Then I took a closer look and was like awww damn! What I liked about Boca Chica beach is that it is like a natural swimming pool due to the breakers. I can just take a nap floating on my back.

[QUOTE=Questner;3031626]Dominicans can do whatever they like in their country including not following their own laws. If they don't want to use P4P as a natural economic advantage, let it be. However, they successfully killed all entertainment in the town, including Dominican venues. Somehow, turning Sos. Into a place for Dominicans has never crossed their minds. Discos, karaoke place, dance to rent. Everything is gone. They have even uprooted the natural Almendros trees and planted palms trees instead. They will never ever be able to compete with P Cana and area, can't supply water, electricity can't offer proper food catering, can't solve airport issues and much more. The most puzzling thing is P4P has nothing to do with their wish to unload some land properties.[/QUOTE]Bingo. The infrastructure can't handle the housing that's there now and they want to add several more?

That's what this is all about Land speculation. Even in PC Youtuber Jamie Gruber bought a one bedroom condo in a flood zone in PC not for rent he admits that he won't make much for that but so they land can be bought by a developer. Theyre making these plays Island wide Again Sosua is and was an agricultural area that Trijullo wanted to use to whiten up the country but not necessarily with those whites so he put them in a remote corner. That remote corner is Sosua. Sex tourism or not there's never going to be a Punta Cana north and even Punta Cana took more than twenty years to become what it is.

If I had a half million sitting around for a vacation or retirement villa Sosua is not the worst place in the world but for the money you could probably get something similar in the Bahamas.

I'll bet you could get something cheaper in Jamaica. You could say that even Montego Bay lacks amenities but so does Sosua.

I don't know who did it but whoever did it was a marketing genius to turn a town that is less interesting than San Christobal into a global fleshpot.

Rey was not deported so even the local news can be trusted about as much as you can count on Edemorte. But a crime wave is on the rise.

Good Luck Sosua.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

400 pound dude said Sosua is a wrap. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQdV33LUwRU[/URL].

According to Pluto TV and Just Explorering they still have people out visiting the beaches even walking the strip before 11 pm. I really don't know what's going on over there however, I see conflicting viewpoints on the internet.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3031785]400 pound dude said Sosua is a wrap. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQdV33LUwRU[/URL].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3031935]According to Pluto TV and Just Explorering they still have people out visiting the beaches even walking the strip before 11 pm. I really don't know what's going on over there however, I see conflicting viewpoints on the internet.[/QUOTE]Refuse to give up the ghost huh? All these reports including my own, but you refuse to believe. Why not go take a look for yourself?

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3031935]According to Pluto TV and Just Explorering they still have people out visiting the beaches even walking the strip before 11 pm. I really don't know what's going on over there however, I see conflicting viewpoints on the internet.[/QUOTE]Maybe they are giving away free pussy?

A noble thing to do, and I'm sure our disappointed mongers would like a clue as to how one consistently gets free pussy in Sosua, from one of our apparently regular visitors, and posts reports about it here.

I doubt that posting up on the strip at midnight, watching the same "25" skanks circle the block and engaging in conversation with them to update the Forum, is an effective way to garner free pussy from doctor chicks, lawyer chicks, nurse chicks and cop chicks, and assorted other legitimate professionals.

The good news is, as long as we have such prolific and dedicated posters spending their time and money in Sosua, to keep you all updated, it will not die!

LOL.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3032014]Maybe they are giving away free pussy?

A noble thing to do, and I'm sure our disappointed mongers would like a clue as to how one consistently gets free pussy in Sosua, from one of our apparently regular visitors, and posts reports about it here.

I doubt that posting up on the strip at midnight, watching the same "25" skanks circle the block and engaging in conversation with them to update the Forum, is an effective way to garner free pussy from doctor chicks, lawyer chicks, nurse chicks and cop chicks, and assorted other legitimate professionals.

The good news is, as long as we have such prolific and dedicated posters spending their time and money in Sosua, to keep you all updated, it will not die!

LOL.[/QUOTE]I've been reading back to the reports guys so what's going on with the area now? Is it dead as the videos are saying on YouTube?

I normally stay at Blackbeard's anyway I've been to Sosua a few times.

I'm coming back in December. I wanted to see if it's worth going and spending a night in Sisu and hanging out on the strip or should I just concentrate on Puerto Plata?

[QUOTE=Oakie;3032014]Maybe they are giving away free pussy?

A noble thing to do, and I'm sure our disappointed mongers would like a clue as to how one consistently gets free pussy in Sosua, from one of our apparently regular visitors, and posts reports about it here.

I doubt that posting up on the strip at midnight, watching the same "25" skanks circle the block and engaging in conversation with them to update the Forum, is an effective way to garner free pussy from doctor chicks, lawyer chicks, nurse chicks and cop chicks, and assorted other legitimate professionals.

The good news is, as long as we have such prolific and dedicated posters spending their time and money in Sosua, to keep you all updated, it will not die!

LOL.[/QUOTE]You may not get free pussy but you don't have to be one.

Say what's on your mind no one is going to bite your head off.

I don't know you personally and if I wanted to address you directly I would but let me state the issue as clearly as I can within the rules. Canadian sexpats (and some locals) are mad at the fact that New Yorkers dominate the scene out there.

Sex tourism was never a problem when it was a german town but once Lutfhansa dropped the DR and Jet Blue came in that's when something needed to be done.

Addressing you directly You're not putting up anything remotely helpful on the board, You might as well post on the expat facebook groups and leave it at that.

Again this weird I hate New Yorkers but love their money vibe has to stop. Everyone is saying "Yes tourism is down but high season. ".

WHERE ARE THE WOMEN? I'm not even there and I hear the beach is ok in the afternoons, There's action at bailee's and Bar central. On a MONGER board you can confirm or deny this.

I really can't see anyother issue other than maybe you really don't like New Yorkers.

Back to the Pussy or close this section down. I just saw Linkz up Youtube a Canadian New Yorker say that Sosua could be big as or bigger than Punta Cana But it would take Years.

Because the Dominican Republic doesn't allow free speech you can't really believe anything said online even Mr. T says tourism is picking up in one video and saying the streets are dead in another.

Again I said way back that the town was purpose built for sex tourism because it's too small and underresourced to be big. You'd have to demolish LOS Charamicos, Marantha and Sosua Abajo and replace it with snowbirds but actually Passport Bro expats to get a real downtown El batey to rival even the Malecon in Puerta Plata.

If you lived in Sosua at this point almost anything other than food of any quality you'd have to buy in Puerta Plata or Santiago so why not live there?

It's the reason that the Santiago forum hasn't blown up even though the chicas are there the chicas ain't there. Unless you know exactly where to go (and no know to my knowledge every said it) You don't know so it's easier to go to where you know where the hoes are like SD, PC and until recently Sosua.

The only reason why any expat would pick Sosua is because of the hoes. Either you're a henpecked simp husband of a local a female expat tired of paying Sank Pankies is Caberete or you're a sexpat.

Best beach in the DR is las galleras and It has to be cheaper to live if you're a thifty fifty year old.

I'm a lot of things one thing I ain't is pussy so other than being critical of the criticism I'm not talking about you but actually and especially since you're this board I assume that you don't deny you're there for the hoes.

As a fellow expat although I do want guys to visit Cali I don't want them to have a bad time, I don't post "Trip reports" because I live here and living overseas for years It's kinda hard for me to make a "where the hoes at?" post because I know that the hoes are EVERYWHERE. If I lived in the DR again I'd probably live in Santiago It's cheap not too far from beaches and I'll find hoes with little to no drugging you could use dating apps like the dickens.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=FlyGuyEddie007;3032061]I've been reading back to the reports guys so what's going on with the area now? Is it dead as the videos are saying on YouTube?

I normally stay at Blackbeard's anyway I've been to Sosua a few times.

I'm coming back in December. I wanted to see if it's worth going and spending a night in Sisu and hanging out on the strip or should I just concentrate on Puerto Plata?[/QUOTE]If you're a Blackbeard's Fan prove the interior minister wrong by engaging in sex tourism there.

So far not a soul has told a MONGER why they should bother with going to Sosua.

The Interior minister said no sex tourism we should give them want they want our absence.

Enjoy BlackBeards there will likely be nothing on the strip.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3032083]You may not get free pussy but you don't have to be one.

Say what's on your mind no one is going to bite your head off.

I don't know you personally and if I wanted to address you directly I would but let me state the issue as clearly as I can within the rules. Canadian sexpats (and some locals) are mad at the fact that New Yorkers dominate the scene out there.[/QUOTE]It is nothing except jealousy. Guy in the Colombia thread is angry and jealous because military veterans get a pension. Guy in this thread is jealous because people can form normal relationships and do not have to let hookers be the guardian of their wallet whenever they get horny. Trip, have you ever handed your wallet to a hooker? You can't make this stuff up!

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3032083]I just saw Linkz up Youtube a Canadian New Yorker say that Sosua could be big as or bigger than Punta Cana But it would take Years.[/QUOTE]Pretty obvious this Linkz Up guy has never been to Punta Cana. A quick search says there are over 100 resorts in Punta Cana. Imagine tens of thousands of vacationers jockeying for a chair at Sosua Beach. Is that guy on crack? Punta Cana was tailor made to be Punta Cana. They can not reinvent small ass Sosua to be a sprawling Punta Cana.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3032092]It is nothing except jealousy. Guy in the Colombia thread is angry and jealous because military veterans get a pension. Guy in this thread is jealous because people can form normal relationships and do not have to let hookers be the guardian of their wallet whenever they get horny. Trip, have you ever handed your wallet to a hooker? You can't make this stuff up![/QUOTE]Maybe he'll clarify but I doubt it I can't see it any other way. Do I buy pussy? Yes do I maintain relationships with people that's not completely transactional yes indeed.

I'll even say that my last three Girlfriends in Colombia all had US Visas or were citizens. In fact theres some natural entitlement from dealing with chicks who don't need to sell ass to live so maybe I should attempt to deal with chicks of a more humble background.

But I learned the hard way to not find the most submissive needy woman and "go native" I. E. Surround myself solely with her friends and family.

At the end of the day women are human even Dominicanas generally if you treat people with respect it will be returned.

One more point about not going native. The DR is a republic its in the title so you have freedom of speech just watch what you say. I know people feel uncomfortable saying why an ISG member needs to come to Sosua now.

I love Colombia but if it got uncomfortable to me I'd LEAVE It's one thing to love a place but rarely does that place love you.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3032096]Pretty obvious this Linkz Up guy has never been to Punta Cana. A quick search says there are over 100 resorts in Punta Cana. Imagine tens of thousands of vacationers jockeying for a chair at Sosua Beach. Is that guy on crack? Punta Cana was tailor made to be Punta Cana. They can not reinvent small ass Sosua to be a sprawling Punta Cana.[/QUOTE]I listened to the guys 40 minute spiel. According to him he's green on his apartastudios in the Europa. Even John of Casa Comprai sneak dissed him. Even though I agree with John I guess I see the kid's play cop some condos throw them on Airbnb which finances his lifestyle and find some other condos or villas for rent or sale make a youtube channel get a commission for any sucker who buys.

He manages to use the commission money and adsense to pay his pussy bills, Even though if he can sell a shack to a senior. he could also sale a story to get some "FREE PUSSY" too. And as a relatively young guy if Sosua flips back or becomes a Las Terranas he can make money through equity, Shit the condos are worth something he could borrow against and buy some Bitcoin or something.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3032137]Maybe he'll clarify but I doubt it I can't see it any other way. Do I buy pussy? Yes[/QUOTE]No. I was asking if you have ever literally handed your wallet to a hooker to hold on for you and pay out of whenever you went somewhere with her.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3032083]You may not get free pussy but you don't have to be one.

Say what's on your mind no one is going to bite your head off.

I don't know you personally and if I wanted to address you directly I would but let me state the issue as clearly as I can within the rules. Canadian sexpats (and some locals) are mad at the fact that New Yorkers dominate the scene out there.[/QUOTE]Well. As a Canadian expat, with 17 years of experience here let me just say, in my opinion, you are 100% wrong.

The only problem I have had with mongers, and posted at length about them here are with cheap mongers with know it all attitudes. Without exception they happen to be white. We don't look at people through a racial prism. We rely on the local connections for all our needs, aside from pussy. We don't use the term "passport brothers", which can mean anything you want it to mean. We use the term "weekend warriors", to describe the visitors who come down to party, and spread a little money around, and keep the economy going! I don't see the locals complaining there are not enough cheap mongers who post up and brag to each other how they score pussy for 1 k pesos.

Doesn't make sense to be racist, when you choose live in DR and are dependent on the locals and are shacked up most of the time with your local regular of 9 years. That old horse won't fly!

[QUOTE]I really can't see anyother issue other than maybe you really don't like New Yorkers.[/QUOTE]To use your language, not all "brothers" are from New York, and not all of them are weekend warriors. As part of the major changes we have seen younger, affluent business "brothers" who can work remotely from their laptops, and chill out on the beach or by the pool, with their favorite honey. They are doing Sosua "European style", like the Germans, Dutch and Scandinavians have been doing for years.

I'm invited to weddings where a semi pro has given up the game, for an affluent young American "brother" who offers her a little economic security. As OldKool says, DR women in general (not the skanks on the stroll) can actually be loyal and monogamous if their basic economic needs are met and are treated with a little respect. Like all women the world over, they are capable of giving it up to one guy.

[QUOTE]If you lived in Sosua at this point almost anything other than food of any quality you'd have to buy in Puerta Plata or Santiago so why not live there? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]The only reason why any expat would pick Sosua is because of the hoes. Either you're a henpecked simp husband of a local a female expat tired of paying Sank Pankies is Caberete or you're a sexpat. [/QUOTE]Wrong! The hoes are a bonus.

There's a thing called lifestyle, which is all about community, friends, and stress free living for those who have worked hard all their lives, and avoiding negative nabob know-it-alls who insist on aren't telling you what do and how to live! I escaped from that, years ago! LOL.

To each his own, is a very unappreciated concept, around here!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3032142]No. I was asking if you have ever literally handed your wallet to a hooker to hold on for you and pay out of whenever you went somewhere with her.[/QUOTE]Man I always pay AFTER the date sometimes I don't even have the money and the girl has to go to the ATM with me. A funny story a guy we both know was hanging out with me at Pacos and he was supposed to pay for the next round so he left his wallet with the chica to pay for the drinks I looked at him ctrazy he said "Man I knew this girl for 14 years" She paid and left.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3032096]Pretty obvious this Linkz Up guy has never been to Punta Cana. A quick search says there are over 100 resorts in Punta Cana. Imagine tens of thousands of vacationers jockeying for a chair at Sosua Beach. Is that guy on crack? Punta Cana was tailor made to be Punta Cana. They can not reinvent small ass Sosua to be a sprawling Punta Cana.[/QUOTE]+100. Not only can't Sosua be like PC, it can't even be like PP. It's a small backwater town not without its charm, but totally lacking capacity and attitude needed for megaresorts.

Where's the disagreement? As Expats things are different less transactional and more in kind payments. I just told a story of a girl having to go to a nearby town and needing money to get theire and back. I sent her the number and got a discounted threesome out of it. I'm sure after 17 years you have similar stories.

Yes to go around the no race thing I use New Yorker as a code word as do the Canadians (code word for caucausian).

So we agree that expats and long term visitors act differently than guys on a three day tear.

As for why us New Yorkers are critical its because back when the majority of mongers were german or canadian no one had a problem so when people talk about New Yorkers and Spandex queens (as if a tubi, tank top yoga shorts and chanceletas aren't the daily uniform of Dominican women going to the Colmado) and even creep cammers when the only actual creep cammers right now are local.

Is too much and when you couple it with the fact that Bar Central is still open as is Blue Ice (owned by the same woman who owned Passions) not to mention Black Beards being like 30 minutes away the BS about them having a Crackdown is laughable. I mean even Flip Flop is taking money for a party of holloween.

It just sounds like everyone has a problem with New Yorkers coming down. If Sosua wants to see the back of sex tourism stop playing favorites and trying to keep the money but get rid of the people.

Mayor Willy said he's tired of people down talking Sosua if he doesn't want people to come then he has to be ok with the word getting around that New Yorkers are not wanted.

Finally since we're on a Monger board I like you care about the Su and have many good friends that I will visit. I don't have the same attachment to the place so I don't live there. If there were no girls there I'd still stop by to say Hello, but none of the expats would be there is there were zero girls willing to fuck for a buck.

As far as the cheap charlie issue it's relative chicks from Rio San Juan is taking 500 peso dates from moto concho guys right now. The new Yorkers who threw money and hung out at the Casino paid up to 300 bucks for a few hours of work. As you know that's more than the average Rumba waitress makes in a month, Guys are going to pay what they want. I know when I get there I got between two to 3 mil pesos they can take it or leave it.

But see'Mon. Oakie you can't even give us a hint where you might see a chica if you're there? They raided Blue Ice so maybe there was a few girls there?

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

It was a good ride. This was all the way back in 2012-2013. Damn, how time flies. By 2013, Sosua was already on the radar, probably due mostly to Cuba Dave. Then dudes like this came along. This was part of the beginning of the end. But Sosua was still crazy back then. [URL]https://www.xvideos.com/video.octeap3a4d/this_ain_t_****_in_search_of_chicas_by_dru_-_toticos.com[/URL].

Nothing can touch these days except maybe Rio back in the Help days and Thailand. Medellin and CTG were still good and Costa Rica also. Vibe was laid back and crazy. Dominican talent still ruled the strip.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3032261]It was a good ride. This was all the way back in 2012-2013. Damn, how time flies. By 2013, Sosua was already on the radar, probably due mostly to Cuba Dave. Then dudes like this came along. This was part of the beginning of the end.[/QUOTE]It sure was and met many of the fellow mongers and had a good time. Had some 10's and once in a while a 6. Attached is one I met and even spent time at her house in Santiago. I almost choked up writing this!

And when I do the shit I'll give a true review vs a one liner. Seriously the big guy in the video could walk down the street at night with his camera on or some shit.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3031959]Refuse to give up the ghost huh? All these reports including my own, but you refuse to believe. Why not go take a look for yourself?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3032317]And when I do the shit I'll give a true review vs a one liner. Seriously the big guy in the video could walk down the street at night with his camera on or some shit.[/QUOTE]For what? I already posted pictures. Other people have put videos online. Shit has not got back popping since then. It is a ghost town at night.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3032188]Where's the disagreement? As Expats things are different less transactional and more in kind payments. I just told a story of a girl having to go to a nearby town and needing money to get theire and back. I sent her the number and got a discounted threesome out of it. I'm sure after 17 years you have similar stories.

Yes to go around the no race thing I use New Yorker as a code word as do the Canadians (code word for caucausian).

[B]So we agree that expats and long term visitors act differently than guys on a three day tear.[/B][/QUOTE]No shit, Sherlock! LOL.

But no need to post in "codewords" ISG gives posters lots of leeway to express a point of view.

[QUOTE]It just sounds like everyone has a problem with New Yorkers coming down. If Sosua wants to see the back of sex tourism stop playing favorites and trying to keep the money but get rid of the people.

Mayor Willy said he's tired of people down talking Sosua if he doesn't want people to come then he has to be ok with the word getting around that New Yorkers are not wanted[/QUOTE]You're just picking up the endless rumors, speculation, and third hand gossip, without putting it all together to see the Big Picture.

First off, It's got nothing to do with hate on "New Yorkers" and second not a lot to do with Wlllie and his personal game.

The DR Government have decided to clean up their cities. There's a new harsher Penal Code to deal with crime, and a new determination to move prostitution out of it's dominating aspect of daily life. It's a National program, and your buddies". Willie, Rey, and Mariela and local Sosua crew, have no influence over Central Command. Nada!

DR has just hired 2400 more police to effect the changes.

Here's the good news. If the DR government wanted to end prostitution, they could simply just use the autopen to sign a new law banning it, without going through all the effort, controversy and resistance from the P4 P business lobby.

So first Sosua, then Las Terrenes (already a crackdown in the last few days) then maybe Boca, El conde and Punta Cana. Who's next?

You guys who are telling folks to move, because the action is going to move to Las Terrenas and Punta Cana, will eventually find the same shit going on there.

Speaking of the autopen, it's happening all over the world. In the USA There's a new major effort to damp down crime, and take back the streets from gangbangers. First Washington, then Chicago, then Memphis. Who's next?

You see when you live in a democracy and you win an election, you can do what the majority of voters want you to do. DR is no different, so why the surprised outrage? It's obviously what the Dominican People want, so screw the foreigners and their complaints. LOL.

[QUOTE]But see'Mon. Oakie you can't even give us a hint where you might see a chica if you're there? They raided Blue Ice so maybe there was a few girls there?[/QUOTE]My answer is always the same. Look around! When prostitution is legal, and a country is full of beauties, it don't take much game to fuck a Miss Universe clone! Invite your favorite bartender, bank teller on her day off to join you for lunch on the beach.

Bonus tip!

Do it while in the company of a presentable and happy GF, and you're already half vetted. The sheer magnetism of a happy smart GF with you cannot be overstated. Women are like that! I bars especially, my circle incudes happy females and guys. No sourpusses or complainers. You be surprised how it draws in gals and guys who want to be part of the fun!

For those with no game, there's a lid for every pot. Lots of needy rejects out there who'll be happy to fuck for free. Of course they may have a little baggage and you might need ear plugs, a brown paper bag, and cut the lights! LOL.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3032369]No shit, Sherlock! LOL.

But no need to post in "codewords" ISG gives posters lots of leeway to express a point of view.

You're just picking up the endless rumors, speculation, and third hand gossip, without putting it all together to see the Big Picture.

First off, It's got nothing to do with hate on "New Yorkers" and second not a lot to do with Wlllie and his personal game.

The DR Government have decided to clean up their cities. There's a new harsher Penal Code to deal with crime, and a new determination to move prostitution out of it's dominating aspect of daily life. It's a National program, and your buddies". Willie, Rey, and Mariela and local Sosua crew, have no influence over Central Command. Nada!

DR has just hired 2400 more police to effect the changes.

Here's the good news. If the DR government wanted to end prostitution, they could simply just use the autopen to sign a new law banning it, without going through all the effort, controversy and resistance from the P4 P business lobby.

So first Sosua, then Las Terrenes (already a crackdown in the last few days) then maybe Boca, El conde and Punta Cana. Who's next?

You guys who are telling folks to move, because the action is going to move to Las Terrenas and Punta Cana, will eventually find the same shit going on there.

Speaking of the autopen, it's happening all over the world. In the USA There's a new major effort to damp down crime, and take back the streets from gangbangers. First Washington, then Chicago, then Memphis. Who's next?

You see when you live in a democracy and you win an election, you can do what the majority of voters want you to do. DR is no different, so why the surprised outrage? It's obviously what the Dominican People want, so screw the foreigners and their complaints. LOL.

My answer is always the same. Look around! When prostitution is legal, and a country is full of beauties, it don't take much game to fuck a Miss Universe clone! Invite your favorite bartender, bank teller on her day off to join you for lunch on the beach.

Bonus tip!

Do it while in the company of a presentable and happy GF, and you're already half vetted. The sheer magnetism of a happy smart GF with you cannot be overstated. Women are like that! I bars especially, my circle incudes happy females and guys. No sourpusses or complainers. You be surprised how it draws in gals and guys who want to be part of the fun!

For those with no game, there's a lid for every pot. Lots of needy rejects out there who'll be happy to fuck for free. Of course they may have a little baggage and you might need ear plugs, a brown paper bag, and cut the lights! LOL.[/QUOTE]Again where is the disagreement?

You typed all these changes that the great Luis Abinder is making and a Presidential advisor is on his way to the states to answer for Cocaine dealing.

I\the say that the crackdown in the Dom Rep will go as well as the crackdown in america and Mexico and Colombia But you actually agree with me.

So I fail to see the disagreement. Again to me all this seems like is to try to get less African American Male tourists to come and increasing more european tourists.

If they want to do this this should be allowed and yes that's going to have to include a lot of downtalking Sosua in particular and the DR in general to make that happen.

One other reason people are skeptical of the success of this operation is the half measures You said you have a GF so I guess that you don't reach into your pocket every time you fuck.

Again no shit sherlock! If there's women making around 300 to 350 a month and an iphone costs 2000 then you're going to have prostitution.

Also the Rey situation he was arrested then released and either back at his place in the Su or in Bermuda but there's no yellow tape around his establishment So it was put out in local media that he was immediately deported which would make Black People think that there's racism at play but on the other hand It might be that there's a cooling off and the case may be dropped.

So it's the sensational push and pull of the market.

At this point if Abinder doesn't like Black Male tourists he should just say this because I'm tired of the stereotypes and blaming especially the code words of "Jet Blue" Passport Bros and weekend warriors. If this post is allowed up.

Just say it.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGfqWD7bi7g[/URL]

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

As a Monger I can't see why anyone would celebrate Operation Atlantico.

First of all it can't work name a place that eliminated sex work or even foreigners buying sex.

Why would a straight Man be against any woman selling sex? It goes to the argument of prostitution being legalized Yes studies show that abuse and STD rates go down but so does prices.

I'd like to see the Bahamas become a sex tourism destination too.

So since we know you can't stop sex being sold and most people will point out the nuance that the DR is not really against sex work what could possibly be the play here?

You can't stop sex work or sex tourism but you can defenitely discourage Black Men from coming. You can also pressure Black business owners into selling or closing shop and you can then sell that land to developers who will develop Condos and villas whether they sell or not.

Sosua Inn has been for sale for years Bailee's still has bitches they tried everything to goose a sale nothing worked now they're converting some suites to condos.

That's the long term play to sell condos to snowbirds who might regret the purchase.

And that's another thing on the off chance that they could supress sex tourism that would make female snowbirds less likely to come.

Sex tourism is cynical as hell. You can take a backwater bargan bin beach town and make it a nightlife destination. You don't have to improve the beach or the infrastructure just add girls and everyone will come.

Why? Because every expat knows that an actual GF is way more expensive that the most high priced working girl. A working girl is not going to want nothing on Valentine's Day. Even Cerise Fairfax admitted that she's looking for a older expat dude that's tired of the games that local young girls play and wants to lower his pussy bills.

Again the hypocrisy of Expats who live in Sosua for over 20 years saying "I hate the hoes" It never was a problem before. Sosua beach is decent but it has nothing on Copacabana Beach. Shit even if you're talking cost the Beaches in Recife aren't as crowded and according to [URL]Numebo.com[/URL] has a much lower cost of living and way more girls with 3 million in the city itself compared to Sosua\s 15 to 50 thousand depending on how you count what Sosua is.

The main benefit to Sosua is the amount of women who are willing to engage in sex work and the lack of rule of law in general. Dominican expats have been acting a fool there for decades and a bribe beats all cases. Cuba Dave may or may not been denied entry after years of "creep camming" and straight up Pimping out women. Costa Rica Jailed him.

The fact that you could run sex based businesses on tourist visas much less getting a liquor license is the main benefit of being in Sosua.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;3032183]+100. Not only can't Sosua be like PC, it can't even be like PP. It's a small backwater town not without its charm, but totally lacking capacity and attitude needed for megaresorts.[/QUOTE]He's there because of the hoes. That's why every one is there.

Hope this helps.

Trip.

I might had possibly overlooked your posting of pictures as far as videos go. I don't recall anyone on this forum posting a video of themselves in Sosua showing it dead.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3032332]For what? I already posted pictures. Other people have put videos online. Shit has not got back popping since then. It is a ghost town at night.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3032516]I might had possibly overlooked your posting of pictures as far as videos go. I don't recall anyone on this forum posting a video of themselves in Sosua showing it dead.[/QUOTE]Come on man. It is not hard. (No Diddy.) Just go to youtube and type in Sosua and you will see videos that people have posted online.

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/shorts/SWpBgfvGCUM[/URL]

[QUOTE=FlyGuyEddie007;3032061]I've been reading back to the reports guys so what's going on with the area now? Is it dead as the videos are saying on YouTube?

I normally stay at Blackbeard's anyway I've been to Sosua a few times.

I'm coming back in December. I wanted to see if it's worth going and spending a night in Sisu and hanging out on the strip or should I just concentrate on Puerto Plata?[/QUOTE]Good plan hit BBs you know you can chill in a relaxed atmosphere plenty of toto at regular prices, take a side trip to the Su stay one or 2 nites make sure its Fri. Or sat night as far as the Su, All else fails tap into the tella chica net work or hook up with a trusted chica!!

[QUOTE=FlyGuyEddie007;3032061]I've been reading back to the reports guys so what's going on with the area now? Is it dead as the videos are saying on YouTube?

I normally stay at Blackbeard's anyway I've been to Sosua a few times.

I'm coming back in December. I wanted to see if it's worth going and spending a night in Sisu and hanging out on the strip or should I just concentrate on Puerto Plata?[/QUOTE]You'll find that they have closed down the hoe "food court" on the main drag of Sosua. The services are still available but they've migrated to the bars and restaurants in the surrounding areas. They don't stampede in herds anymore.

Like Blackbeards who always seem to get a pass, but they have a relatively low profile, there's no disturbing of the peace, and definitely no complaints from the residents in the area. There are actually some lively new hotel bars / bars going up there as we speak, so you're not stuck only in one hotel, as before, and you've got a nice beach. I'm there often, and have yet to see a cop.

Keep in mind too, that prices have not soared like folks say here.

The 100 USA That bought a high end hooker, back in the heyday of Sosua 2008, is only worth $65 or so to a chica today. Inflation!

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3032085]If you're a Blackbeard's Fan prove the interior minister wrong by engaging in sex tourism there.

So far not a soul has told a MONGER why they should bother with going to Sosua.

The Interior minister said no sex tourism we should give them want they want our absence.

Enjoy BlackBeards there will likely be nothing on the strip.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.[/QUOTE]Thank you it saves me the $ for round trip taxi fair.

When I use the search engines it only shows how the shit looks either shortly after the raids or showing a bunch of videos of how Sosua use to look like or providing videos of tons of people on Sosua beach. Last time I spoken with the women they told me they are still there, I wasn't speaking to a lot of them but only some of them.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3032530]Come on man. It is not hard. (No Diddy.) Just go to youtube and type in Sosua and you will see videos that people have posted online.

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/shorts/SWpBgfvGCUM[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3032723]Last time I spoken with the women they told me they are still there, I wasn't speaking to a lot of them but only some of them.[/QUOTE]That is to lure you there to bring them money. Then when you tell them you will be on the way and you get there, they will not be there. Then they will say okay I will come now.

Why not tell them to send you pictures and videos of the setting if they are still there?

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3032723]When I use the search engines it only shows how the shit looks either shortly after the raids or showing a bunch of videos of how Sosua use to look like or providing videos of tons of people on Sosua beach. Last time I spoken with the women they told me they are still there, I wasn't speaking to a lot of them but only some of them.[/QUOTE]Sosua is Dead. Here is a brand new video of the strip today a Saturday night.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtxdkqcKTnU[/URL]

Just got back from a week in the Su. For context, I've been going down there & other spots in the DR since GWB's 2nd term! In recent years I only hit the Su once a year for a quick change of pace trip from my go-to destination, RdJ (I love my Afro-Latinas! I booked this last trip to POP before reading about all the nonsense that went down in July. But even after learning what happened, given how well I know that country & town I bet that after 3 months the govt would've smartened up & things would be at least close to normal. Sadly, I lost that bet.

What I saw in the Su, starting on a holiday weekend no less, was mind-boggling! It's gotten to the point where the toy soldiers (Pol. Mil.) are posted on each corner of the strip & make looping patrols by car from PC to Rosen to A. Martinez & back. But the thing is that there aren't any women for them to chase, harass, detain, etc. ! The other OG Su guys remember when the Politur started harassing chicas on the strip back in 2010 in the govt's 1st attempt to 'clean' the town up. Over the years the Politur BS shrunk the area where & timeframe when the Su action takes place. But now the govt has really upped the ante be / see they are virtually no chicas walking the streets, even though male (primarily Americans) tourists are still out there lookin for talent!

After so many trips and good memories, this was my last trip to the Su. The way I judge a monger destination is how easily I can session with as many high quality (looks & service) providers as possible. Even with the Politur patrols, the Su continued to meet my standard because every day you could find dozens to 100+ females around town from sunset to sunrise. Now it's way too much of a grind to find talent down there! At best you might occasionally spot a group of 2-5 chicas out in public, but they'll quickly disappear like a mirage in the desert! Baileys has the only sizeable collection of talent now, but that setup sucks for me be / see the chicas are all seated at tables, occasionally walking around. I need to see T+A in motion to evaluate the talent! Other than that, there are a few other spots around town (Bar Central, Tiki Wiki, Rumba-Kings, Casa Coco, etc.) where you'll find a handful (at best) of females hanging out. These places are generally better than Baileys be / see the women tend to move around more and you can look in from the street. However, the numbers are just pathetic!

And the biggest problem w / what's left of the Su scene is that the quality of the chicas is at an all-time low! From the first night I went outside, a Saturday, it was crystal clear that there are hardly any high end chicas in the Su anymore. If you look around every corner and under every rock you can find some decent options, but it takes a lot of time & effort. On the plus side, it's a complete buyers' market now, so negotiations are a breeze. They quote low & accept any reasonable counter! BTW, I have to point out how lame a few venues are. Blue Ice is a complete jokes as on any given night 75+% of the females inside are the hostesses working there & they're not available. And the new casino by beach is small AF and mostly caters towards locals. You'll only find 1-3 working chicas there max. And to hammer home how whack things are down there now, I constantly got pulled up on by females in vehicles. Some straight up Bizarro shit! The contrast from my last trip down there a year ago is shocking and sad.

Bottom line: The govt is sending the message loud & clear that they no longer want single male tourists in Sosua so I will heed that message spend my $ elsewhere. As I discussed with several people down there, I feel sorry for all the working folks that are suffering be / see of this crackdown: motoconchos, taxis, restaurants, hotels, barbers, bars, tour guides, massage parlors, etc. There's a palpable malaise around town. Walking the streets as a tourist you kinda feel like a warm body in a zombie apocalypse! I did notice more guys coming in later in the week and I could only assume that they hadn't heard about the changes. If you're looking for quantity or quality, the Su is not recommended for any length of stay.

P.S. #1 - I don't deal with websites or apps for finding talent when I travel, so I can't comment on how viable the Su is if you meet chicas over the internet.

P.S. #2 - In case you're wondering, family tourists were nowhere to be found! The Hard Rock Cafe was empty the whole time I was there. Buenas suerte to the govt w / their grand scheme of turning this into Punta Cana / La Romana North.

P.S. #3 - FYI, this is a one off post to inform fellow mongers so they can avoid wasting their $ based on false expectations. I don't have the time to engage in any back-and-forth about what I've written.

This was the type of video I was looking for despite the fact it's taking place at 1 am. I guess that's bigger proof needed like bro said don't come there with an expectation of partying and pussy.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3032898]Sosua is Dead. Here is a brand new video of the strip today a Saturday night.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtxdkqcKTnU[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3032978]This was the type of video I was looking for despite the fact it's taking place at 1 am. I guess that's bigger proof needed like bro said don't come there with an expectation of partying and pussy.[/QUOTE]The strip never looked that dead at 1 am on a Saturday. This video proves Sosua is dead, atleast for now. Ill be there Halloween.

Well some of us vets claiming Sosua sucked before the crack downs lousy service scams, chicas over charging rachet hoes and service, and too many newbies and warriors screwing up the game,As far as pussy servied on a silver platta that ship just sailed no comeing back. Now if your into the Hobby a true monger lets say a vet you don't need Pedro Cislante or Calle DR Rossen the whole island full of pussy, funny a buddy of mine a 78 year old dude from the states rents an apartment in town, no worries he said in his first week or 7 days he got laid 18 times, already had a roster of chicas that come to the apartment and plenty more on tap, of corce the guy has the semi ridged dick implant, the Sosua crack down not slowing this dude down, If you know how to move your will havev plenty of Pussy!

[URL]https://clip.cafe/from-dusk-till-dawn-1996/give-us-an-offer-on-our-vast-selection-of-pussy/[/URL]

The only chance of an economic calamity or future demise of the people in power with roots in Cibao, which is unusual, may reverse the course of doom.

Your Teamsters card will serve you better elsewhere!

[QUOTE=ReyKong6;3032964]And to hammer home how whack things are down there now, I constantly got pulled up on by females in vehicles. Some straight up Bizarro shit! [/QUOTE]Great report. A car full of chicks pulling up was actually a normal thing during Bush's second term.

[QUOTE=AsianSeeker777;3033012]Well some of us vets claiming Sosua sucked before the crack downs lousy service scams, chicas over charging rachet hoes and service, and too many newbies and warriors screwing up the game,As far as pussy servied on a silver platta that ship just sailed no comeing back. Now if your into the Hobby a true monger lets say a vet you don't need Pedro Cislante or Calle DR Rossen the whole island full of pussy, funny a buddy of mine a 78 year old dude from the states rents an apartment in town, no worries he said in his first week or 7 days he got laid 18 times, already had a roster of chicas that come to the apartment and plenty more on tap, of corce the guy has the semi ridged dick implant, the Sosua crack down not slowing this dude down, If you know how to move your will havev plenty of Pussy![/QUOTE]Thats good for him. But I like walking about and seeing different females walking around. I like getting laid by different chics. I rarely repeat. Ill see how it is on Halloween.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3032999]The strip never looked that dead at 1 am on a Saturday. This video proves Sosua is dead, atleast for now. Ill be there Halloween.[/QUOTE]I have been coming to Sosua a couple times a year for the past 14 years and this is the deadest I have ever seen the streets and bars.

I walked to Smiley's on Friday night about 10:00 pm and there was only about 10 people on the street from Surf Liquor to Smiley's and the bars were more or less empty for a Friday. Walked down to the Jolly Roger and back on Saturday about 9:00 pm and a little more life but more national police than tourists. On the plus side there is only about half as may loud ass motorcycles running up and down the streets.

Mid October is still early so maybe things will pick up in November.

[QUOTE=AsianSeeker777;3033012]Well some of us vets claiming Sosua sucked before the crack downs lousy service scams, chicas over charging rachet hoes and service, and too many newbies and warriors screwing up the game,As far as pussy servied on a silver platta that ship just sailed no comeing back. Now if your into the Hobby a true monger lets say a vet you don't need Pedro Cislante or Calle DR Rossen the whole island full of pussy, funny a buddy of mine a 78 year old dude from the states rents an apartment in town, no worries he said in his first week or 7 days he got laid 18 times, already had a roster of chicas that come to the apartment and plenty more on tap, of corce the guy has the semi ridged dick implant, the Sosua crack down not slowing this dude down, If you know how to move your will havev plenty of Pussy![/QUOTE]He's not the only one.

I'm still in awe of the quality old farts can bring over to the pool in the afternoons at my apartment building. I look at my GF's Miss Dominican Republic clone, close my eyes and remember how 40 years ago in Canada some thought I was too old to date their daughter. LOL.

Life is really a box of chocolates!

[QUOTE]every expat knows that an actual GF is way more expensive that the most high priced working girl. A working girl is not going to want nothing on Valentine's Day.[/QUOTE]You really believe that?

An ex-pat don't need to pay for a hotel room by the night, a car by the day, or pussy by the hour.

To an ex-pat a regular girlfriend with benefits is a more "normal relationship" than posting up every night on the strip. It's the perfect base from which to pick off the occasional freshie, when the opportunity arises. Especially helps if your GF is Bi.

[QUOTE]Even Cerise Fairfax admitted that she's looking for a older expat dude that's tired of the games that local young girls play and wants to lower his pussy bills.[/QUOTE]She doesn't agree with you! LOL.

Do I really hand my wallet to girls?

[QUOTE]Maybe he'll clarify but I doubt it.[/QUOTE]A ten year old post where I said my GF (of 7 years) holds on to our daily walking around money, phone, sunglasses, pills, charger, keys, cigs and lighter, because I don't wear military cargo shorts, and like to travel light. Never lost a phone, keys or money! Or had to fumble with pesos to buy groceries, or a motoconcho ride.

To me that's a "normal" relationship. If you can't trust a chica you've known for 7 years (and 9 with this one) you've never had a "normal" relationship with a woman. LOL.

The same dude Mr E started a flame war with me years ago, because I bought her a new coffee pot. Sorta explains his 18000 or so ISG complaints.

A guy who clams to fuck the professional elite society of the world for free, while promoting that walk up sticky floor SD casa, GDP which doesn't even have a shower. "100's of times" he says he's there. LOL I can only imagine his "free" pussy! LOL.

You have a lot in common with each other!

Have at it!

[QUOTE=Oakie;3033452]You really believe that?

An ex-pat don't need to pay for a hotel room by the night, a car by the day, or pussy by the hour.

To an ex-pat a regular girlfriend with benefits is a more "normal relationship" than posting up every night on the strip. It's the perfect base from which to pick off the occasional freshie, when the opportunity arises. Especially helps if your GF is Bi.

She doesn't agree with you! LOL.

Do I really hand my wallet to girls?

A ten year old post where I said my GF (of 7 years) holds on to our daily walking around money, phone, sunglasses, pills, charger, keys, cigs and lighter, because I don't wear military cargo shorts, and like to travel light. Never lost a phone, keys or money! Or had to fumble with pesos to buy groceries, or a motoconcho ride.

To me that's a "normal" relationship. If you can't trust a chica you've known for 7 years (and 9 with this one) you've never had a "normal" relationship with a woman. LOL.

The same dude Mr E started a flame war with me years ago, because I bought her a new coffee pot. Sorta explains his 18000 or so ISG complaints.

A guy who clams to fuck the professional elite society of the world for free, while promoting that walk up sticky floor SD casa, GDP which doesn't even have a shower. "100's of times" he says he's there. LOL I can only imagine his "free" pussy! LOL.

You have a lot in common with each other!

Have at it![/QUOTE]My Brother in Christ What are you saying?

It seems like you have an issue with posters on one hand you question if anyone is able to get "free pussy" Then you say that a GF is cheaper than a prostitute. The Hotel is the Hotel the Man is staying at with or without the working girl but lets add that in too compared to Birthday gifts, Christmas gifts Valentine gifts Family emergencies and lets not forget Baby gifts for a child that isn't yours because a Miss Dominican Look like has defenitely had a Papi chulo in their lives and maybe one now. Many Many Ex pats and visitors found that they are sharing their "Girlfriend".

But I don't understand what you're driving at here First of all DO YOU BUY PUSSY? If you don't I can't understand why'd you waste your time posting on a monger site.

Having a decades younger GF overseas is not a flex for any expat I\m currently dating a salsa dancer who has a entertainment visa to the states the girl has been to countries I haven't been to and the weird thing is although all my actual GF's have had visas or where citizens of america none of the relationships lasted and I think that being relatively rich gives them the same entitlement as it does western women. No bad breakups (well two) but kinda entitled. If you are dating a woman with options you know what I mean.

If the forum is saying "Sosua sucks" and you live there you should be ok with that. Where I live if there were zero tourists that wouldn't be good but the city would exist because tourist is a tiny part of the economy here.

If there were no tourists in Sosua thousands of people would leave and the town would revert back to it's agricultural roots.

Again I'll just say it there's no freedom in the DR. Expats routinely get arrested for wrong speak as businessman Tony the Tiger did and Rey from Kings did.

Sosua is the epidome of.

A nice place to visit BUT YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE THERE" My subjective opinion but there's many many expats who have moved on who agree /.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3033487]My Brother in Christ What are you saying?[/QUOTE]LOL I have no idea either. But I never thought I would see the day when a guy was walking around in either speedos or a dress (what else could he be wearing and claiming not to have pockets) and had to give his belongings to a gal. I do not know about everyone else, but it is always my girls giving me their stuff to hold on to because they don't have pockets.

Must be some of that new age woke stuff with this role reversal of guys giving females their stuff for safe keeping. Makes you wonder who is putting who in doggy over there. And that is not a complaint. I understand different [B]strokes[/B]for different folks.

I just arrived a few hours ago and have been sitting at the bar on the corner of Dr. Rosen and Pedro Clisente. Yes. It is a huge change. But, I've had 4 women give me their numbers in the two hours that I've been here. Granted, I have zero interest in any of them, but I'm picky (I also believe that if a woman approaches me then she's probably not worth my time). There are definitely not the huge number of women that have been out on the street in the past, but I think I'll be fine. I have not walked the streets yet.

I see lots of substance dealers around, but I travel in Latin America enough to know that I should avoid them. My driver from the airport gave me the Sosua is now family friendly and will be opening resorts that attract tourists speech. I simply could not take him seriously. My current concern is that I've always walked the side streets and avoided the main drag. With the huge lack of people, I don't know if it will still be safe to do that.

I'll give updates occasionally.

There's a potential hurricane out at sea that has me worried I'm going to try and reschedule for after Thanksgiving.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3033487]My Brother in Christ What are you saying?

It seems like you have an issue with posters on one hand you question if anyone is able to get "free pussy" Then you say that a GF is cheaper than a prostitute. The Hotel is the Hotel the Man is staying at with or without the working girl but lets add that in too compared to Birthday gifts, Christmas gifts Valentine gifts Family emergencies and lets not forget Baby gifts for a child that isn't yours because a Miss Dominican Look like has defenitely had a Papi chulo in their lives and maybe one now. Many Many Ex pats and visitors found that they are sharing their "Girlfriend"[/QUOTE]LOL, Me? I have an issue with other posters? Nah. With me it's Live and let Live. I don't waste my life telling others how and where they should roll.

I just point out the reasons why I, and millions of tourists, enjoy the DR, because the Sosua Forum lacks positive posters. It gives a newbie a skewed view of a laid back tropical beach town, with friendly, helpful locals. The hoes are a bonus!

I post for the newbie, like me, who found paradise after a long slog!

My relatively rare positive posts (2400 posts in 17 years, less than 200 a year) always attract the butt hurt Sosua haters who never get tired of their tales of rip-offs, and victimization. They like to gang up seeking comfort and confirmation among their like minded. It's a common thread of social media: They usually come in pairs like a tag team.

You see racism, lack of free speech in Sosua, and apply the skank hoe rip-offs to DR women in general, you have your own "codewords" for it, but that's not a common view of the DR, compared to the mayhem that's going on in my country right now, Canada, and maybe yours, USA.

[I]"Seeking confirmation of one's views is known as confirmation bias, a psychological tendency to search for, interpret, and recall information in a way that confirms pre-existing beliefs. This often results in dismissing contradictory evidence, which can lead to poor decision-making and a distorted view of reality. A related behavior is seeking external validation, which is the human need for approval and can be unhealthy if prioritized over one's own judgment."[/I]

How many posts do we need to say we don't like a product or a service, or a location? Like you're compatriot, you're up to 3 or 4 a day. It's not healthy! LOL.

But carry on with your delusions, racism, free speech denial, and your "code words" for it all. Tell me the details of my life, the people I hang with, and why I shouldn't enjoy my life here! The fact is, I'm happy here, surrounded by happy people, and getting laid as often as I want, with chicas that won't quit. And there's a lot of us on the North Coast. They just don't want to post here, and be sliced and diced by the critics, who haven't, can't or won't move on!

It's a free country!

But remember, if your take on my happy life here, and the people around me, is so completely fucked up, I can only assume, the rest of your.

Intel" on mongering is just as fucked up! And I'll point out the "inconsistencies" (AKA bullshit) in your logic as I see it!.

Have at it!

LOL.

(Disclaimer. The mods prevent me from addressing Mr. E. directly. They have him a some ignore list that I have no access to. LOL).

I recall knowing that some women actually lived and worked in that town also. The ones I keep in communication with told me that they stay in Sosua and that's their main source of bread and butter.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3033534]I just arrived a few hours ago and have been sitting at the bar on the corner of Dr. Rosen and Pedro Clisente. Yes. It is a huge change. But, I've had 4 women give me their numbers in the two hours that I've been here. Granted, I have zero interest in any of them, but I'm picky (I also believe that if a woman approaches me then she's probably not worth my time). There are definitely not the huge number of women that have been out on the street in the past, but I think I'll be fine. I have not walked the streets yet.

I see lots of substance dealers around, but I travel in Latin America enough to know that I should avoid them. My driver from the airport gave me the Sosua is now family friendly and will be opening resorts that attract tourists speech. I simply could not take him seriously. My current concern is that I've always walked the side streets and avoided the main drag. With the huge lack of people, I don't know if it will still be safe to do that.

I'll give updates occasionally.[/QUOTE]

Have you been on the beach lately? If so how's the action like there?

[QUOTE=StickyRice555;3033096]I have been coming to Sosua a couple times a year for the past 14 years and this is the deadest I have ever seen the streets and bars.

I walked to Smiley's on Friday night about 10:00 pm and there was only about 10 people on the street from Surf Liquor to Smiley's and the bars were more or less empty for a Friday. Walked down to the Jolly Roger and back on Saturday about 9:00 pm and a little more life but more national police than tourists. On the plus side there is only about half as may loud ass motorcycles running up and down the streets.

Mid October is still early so maybe things will pick up in November.[/QUOTE]

It seems like the ladies flood the casino looking for their clients now during late nights.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3032999]The strip never looked that dead at 1 am on a Saturday. This video proves Sosua is dead, atleast for now. Ill be there Halloween.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3033560]It seems like the ladies flood the casino looking for their clients now during late nights.[/QUOTE]One must ask how many ladies it takes in order for there to be a "flooding"? Must be 2 or 3. Nobody is going all the way to Sosua to have to wait until 1 am To see 3 chickenheads that they would not touch with a 10 foot pole in a casino. Even the most die hard Sosua fan, Old Kool, knew when to say when.

I arrived yesterday in Sosua and with the exception of about an hour sleep in the flight from Miami to POP, I had not slept since Monday afternoon. So, after being the only person at the bar I mentioned yesterday, I went back to the room to take a short nap. I woke up at 11 pm and quickly got dressed and hit the streets. I stay at the Garden Condos and noticed about 6-7 in the lobby at the hotel on street where City Hall is and a few standing on the street at a low rent hotel by the liquor store. There were a few at a bar / restaurant on the way to the main part of town.

In town, there was nothing except for the bar where all the Haitian women and expats hang out. I walked in and had several women approach me immediately. There was only one I was interested in but she didn't have a phone so I couldn't get her number. I went to the sports bar at the casino and there were two women and seven men. I was starving and no restaurants were open, so I ended up eating at Blue Ice. Hung out for about an hour eating my chicken teriyaki that was supposed to be chicken Parmesan and while there were a decent number of really attractive women there (not the employees) all drinking water. They all made eye contact but none approached me.

I left and walked down the side streets and encountered several extremely aggressive women. One followed me for about three blocks trying to get me to leave with her. I finally got rid of her by simply walking into the main part of town where the police were.

Hung out at the Haitian place a bit, where there was about 10-11 women (none that interested me). Went back to Blue Ice until it closed at 2 am. Then walked to the main drag back to my place. I kept going down the street as there seemed to be a bit of nightlife going on. Passed several women hanging out on the street and only one interested me. Walked by Hotel Europa and met Estefanny. She was exactly what I like chocolate black, about 5'1 maybe 110-120 lbs with an ass. I got her number and immediately started texting her. I asked her how much she wanted and she told me to tell her how much I wanted to pay. I quit responding. 5 minutes later, she texted $80. I started walking back to the condo because I wasn't paying $80.5 minutes later it was $60. Two minutes later it was give me an offer. I told her $60 was fine and then she said she was taking a moto to my place. I told her I wasn't paying for a moto which she was fine with.

I don't generally discuss what goes on after that, but a few things occurred that I wanted to mention. She looked and smelled incredible with her clothes off, I got ready to do some oral on her and she told me that I needed to tip her to do it. I stopped and said I was good and went to get a condom. I came back and said she didn't mean it and I could do it and I told her no, I don't get anything out of it. A few minutes later she was begging me to do it (which I actually enjoyed probably more than I should). When we were done, I had a pile of change that I brought with me from home. It was like 50-60 coins. I did t look at them but I figured they had to be Dominican or Colombian (I go there next). She asked if she could get some to pay for the moto. I said sure, so she started going through them and said they were all US and not Dominican. She pulled out a few, so I figured the rest were Colombian. I walk her to the gate and go back to the room. She had taken ALL of the coins. Then it occurred to me that she thought they were US coins and she was getting a haul. She will be in for a shock later.

That's it. There is a storm today so, no beach. It is much, much quieter here and I actually enjoy it. I knew I wouldn't have an issue finding chicas here. I rarely stepped foot in Kings or Bailees, (terrible overpriced food) and while I enjoyed looking at them, I rarely went after the girls standing on the streets, so right now the only thing that I'm not getting is the entertainment I usually get from watching the girls act a fool on the street.

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3033559]Have you been on the beach lately? If so how's the action like there?[/QUOTE]Walked the beach last Saturday at noon and there were many empty tables. The Charamico end is pretty much destroyed in the name of progress. The hurricane is dropping a lot of rain and I have not been since Saturday. I must say yesterday I saw more guys sin the bars and Playero so maybe things are picking up. As Michael1967 indicated there are plenty of women hanging out in the shadows just not on the main block anymore.

I am mostly back to the condo by 9:00 or 10:00 so can not report much on the nightlife.

It's sad. The streets are deserted. All of my favorite places to eat that are not on the strip are closed. I honestly had more men approach me to buy illegal substances (6) and offering to find me chicas (2) in one hour of walking than I had chicas approach me. In my previous visits (dating back to about 2013), I may have one or two guys approach me in a week. So, it looks like they got rid of the chicas and left the dealers or with no one coming, the dealers are desperate. At any rate, it's quiet. Did they ban those annoying ATVs? I have not seen one.

In the end, I'm not complaining. I like the quiet. Last night, one of those guys that has a rental car and stops in the middle of the street blocking traffic so he can talk to chicas, immediately found out he can't do that. The cars behind him started honking, the police started walking towards him and the chica ran. Its definitely a new world here.

I guess I should mention, I haven't been here 24 hours and I have 11 phone numbers with 4 of them being people that I have to see before I go. I haven't used Tinder yet.

If only the sun would come out, I'd be enjoying this.

Thursday was interesting. All of the men that either didn't know about what is happening here or they may have already have had their trip planned (Spirit doesn't give refunds) showed up. You could see guys walking around looking frustrated. To add to their misery, the police were much more diligent than they were Wednesday. I was at the Tiki Wiki bar on the corner and a couple actually walked in and told the women that were just sitting there to leave. Again, I went away from the strip and encountered enough chicas and got phone numbers, that it didn't bother me.

Went to the casino sports bar again. There was no one inside. Security told me to come back in 20 minutes. It was midnight. I didn't. Went to Blue Ice. It appears that the owners bring a lot of women in there to ensure guys are happy but (in my opinion), they were all ugly. They all seemed to only be interested in 20-30 year old attractive men. Well, unfortunately, that isn't Sosua. I don't believe they are allowed to approach men either. After they closed went to Ramona's (off the strip) and there were several chicas lurking. My girl from last night was out and tried really hard to get me to take her. I went home alone.

Before then, I was going through my phone trying to decide who to have over and came down to Clari, a short, young, skinny, chica with a bubble butt and thigh gap and a cute face or Rosi, who was older, bigger had an incredible body, but that face (ick). So, even though I have never met a young chica that was good in bed, I decided to torture myself with contacting young and cute. It was as expected. Even though she was literally two blocks away, she pulls up on a moto and asked me to pay for it. From that point on there were pretty much only two words that came from her mouth the first was "propina", it was like every sentence she spoke ended with something about "propina". She wouldn't let me touch her. She took off her clothes, said "give me condom", started trying to put it on my dick that wasn't even hard and said she wanted a propina for putting the condom on me. I got myself hard, by thinking about the other chica I should have called. So, we start and she wedges her hand down there so I can't go all the way in because "her pussy is too small to take a whole dick". Spoiler alert. I'm about average sized. So, the entire time that I'm fighting against her hand, the only other word out of her mouth was "leche". The leche started coming around 15 seconds into it and did not stop. I was not even slightly turned on so I pounded the fuck out of her hand and the tiny bit of her pussy for about 30+ minutes with her repeating "leche" the entire time. Of course, she was angry that I didn't give her a propina. 3500 pesos.

The other bizarre thing I've been encountering here are cars full of women approaching me on the street, trying to get me to choose one of them. While they may think they are smart. There are a few flaws. First, you can't see their bodies. Second and most important to me, I am not approaching a car a car full of people, at night on an empty street with tinted windows. I know this is isn't the US, but if I were at home and saw someone walk up to a car in that situation, I would say they deserve what they got. Here, it's even worse, you're in a strange country on an empty street, probably don't speak a lick of Spanish and you're going to approach a car full of (supposedly) women. That car could have 3 men in the back seat (or 7 since it's the DR).

Playa Alicia is closed. Don't know why.

Looked in Kings last night. Football game was on. Place was full of men. Zero women. Looked like one of those countries where they don't allow women to socialize with the men.

You are experiencing typical chica performances even if Sosua was packed. You sound like a newbie but this is the experience of of honest vets that been in Sosua for years also. 1/4 of experience is great. The rest mediocre or sucks. There was early periods 2007 to 2013 I believe you could trust great performance, not anymore. Only thing great about Sosua is cheap, short flight, and simplicity.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3033907]Thursday was interesting. All of the men that either didn't know about what is happening here or they may have already have had their trip planned (Spirit doesn't give refunds) showed up. You could see guys walking around looking frustrated. To add to their misery, the police were much more diligent than they were Wednesday. I was at the Tiki Wiki bar on the corner and a couple actually walked in and told the women that were just sitting there to leave. Again, I went away from the strip and encountered enough chicas and got phone numbers, that it didn't bother me.

Went to the casino sports bar again. There was no one inside. Security told me to come back in 20 minutes. It was midnight. I didn't. Went to Blue Ice. It appears that the owners bring a lot of women in there to ensure guys are happy but (in my opinion), they were all ugly. They all seemed to only be interested in 20-30 year old attractive men. Well, unfortunately, that isn't Sosua. I don't believe they are allowed to approach men either. After they closed went to Ramona's (off the strip) and there were several chicas lurking. My girl from last night was out and tried really hard to get me to take her. I went home alone..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3033907]Looked in Kings last night. Football game was on. Place was full of men. Zero women. Looked like one of those countries where they don't allow women to socialize with the men.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great updates.

I'm sorry for posting so much.

So, today I learned a valuable lesson. I previously mentioned that on my last trip here I met someone and took her to dinner on the waterfront. She dressed appropriately and acted like someone on a date. Afterwards, we went to a couple of discotecas off the main drag and hit two or three bars. We then went to Blue Ice and danced where she bonded with the people that worked there and I introduced her to the owners. My thought was that she would be able to be on their limited list of women they would allow in. Afterwards, we went to my place and I raw dogged her. In the end for about 5 ½ hours, I paid her about 120 (plus food and drinks).

So, today I saw someone that sort of looked like her. I approached and asked if she knew me. She pretended she did but it was obvious that she didn't. I reminded her and then she immediately remembered. I barely recognized her because. Well because she had some work done. But the real reason is that she gained about 30 pounds in the six months since we went out. She got a BBL, but she gained so much weight that her ass was now simply fat. She was also wearing braces. In the end, she was no longer anyone I'd screw.

So, I bought her a few drinks and we talked. I finally was ready to leave and she tried to leave with me. I told her no and left. Later in my room, I thought maybe I was being too harsh. She was actually good in bed. So I texted her and asked for a price. What did she want? Yep. $120 for an hour. I told her that was ridiculous. Her response? "That's what you paid last time. ".

So, I guess I learned a valuable lesson here. Whatever price you pay is going to be the minimum price you are going to pay in the future.

Just a quick Friday update. All the passport bros or whatever you want to call them showed up today. EVERYPLACE is full of men with no women around. I found several places off the strip that I'm hanging out at, but this is seriously bad.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3033952]I'm sorry for posting so much.

So, today I learned a valuable lesson. I previously mentioned that on my last trip here I met someone and took her to dinner on the waterfront. She dressed appropriately and acted like someone on a date. Afterwards, we went to a couple of discotecas off the main drag and hit two or three bars. We then went to Blue Ice and danced where she bonded with the people that worked there and I introduced her to the owners. My thought was that she would be able to be on their limited list of women they would allow in. Afterwards, we went to my place and I raw dogged her. In the end for about 5 hours, I paid her about 120 (plus food and drinks).

So, today I saw someone that sort of looked like her. I approached and asked if she knew me. She pretended she did but it was obvious that she didn't. I reminded her and then she immediately remembered. I barely recognized her because. Well because she had some work done. But the real reason is that she gained about 30 pounds in the six months since we went out. She got a BBL, but she gained so much weight that her ass was now simply fat. She was also wearing braces. In the end, she was no longer anyone I'd screw.

So, I bought her a few drinks and we talked. I finally was ready to leave and she tried to leave with me. I told her no and left. Later in my room, I thought maybe I was being too harsh. She was actually good in bed. So I texted her and asked for a price. What did she want? Yep. $120 for an hour. I told her that was ridiculous. Her response? "That's what you paid last time. ".

So, I guess I learned a valuable lesson here. Whatever price you pay is going to be the minimum price you are going to pay in the future.

Just a quick Friday update. All the passport bros or whatever you want to call them showed up today. EVERYPLACE is full of men with no women around. I found several places off the strip that I'm hanging out at, but this is seriously bad.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your honest and excellent reports keep them coming nothing beats boots on the ground truth.

Understand that the working girls have an even more detailed tella chica network. They keep notes on what you paid what you said any kinks everything. It's hard to get around that.

It might be a little harder mow because less girls are around. But the dedicated hardcores defintely know the score.

There's a couple of Youtubers on the ground now they confrimed what you said the action moved to the side streets especially the Dorctor streets Rosen and Martinez.

The beach might have been closed due to tropical storm Melissa.

Hope this helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Blakman;3033925]You are experiencing typical chica performances even if Sosua was packed. You sound like a newbie but this is the experience of of honest vets that been in Sosua for years also. 1/4 of experience is great. The rest mediocre or sucks. There was early periods 2007 to 2013 I believe you could trust great performance, not anymore. Only thing great about Sosua is cheap, short flight, and simplicity.[/QUOTE]Yes. I've been doing this forever, but I sort of live in this fantasy world where people do what they say they will do and want to make you happy as a customer. I always make a solid effort to do what I say that I will do. I expect the same from others. Unfortunately, the rest of the world isn't on the same page as me. The good thing is that it's cheap, in Seattle I would have paid $500. At $60 a pop, its cheap schooling for me. If I paid $500 for that, it would be a totally different story, I'd be posting this from jail.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3033952]So, I guess I learned a valuable lesson here. Whatever price you pay is going to be the minimum price you are going to pay in the future.[/QUOTE]I have said many times here before to be careful because you are setting a precedent. The exception is that if you make it very clear that you are only paying that much this time, but on future occasions it will be the lower number.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3033952]I'm sorry for posting so much.

So, today I learned a valuable lesson. I previously mentioned that on my last trip here I met someone and took her to dinner on the waterfront. She dressed appropriately and acted like someone on a date. Afterwards, we went to a couple of discotecas off the main drag and hit two or three bars. We then went to Blue Ice and danced where she bonded with the people that worked there and I introduced her to the owners. My thought was that she would be able to be on their limited list of women they would allow in. Afterwards, we went to my place and I raw dogged her. In the end for about 5 hours, I paid her about 120 (plus food and drinks).

So, today I saw someone that sort of looked like her. I approached and asked if she knew me. She pretended she did but it was obvious that she didn't. I reminded her and then she immediately remembered. I barely recognized her because. Well because she had some work done. But the real reason is that she gained about 30 pounds in the six months since we went out. She got a BBL, but she gained so much weight that her ass was now simply fat. She was also wearing braces. In the end, she was no longer anyone I'd screw.

So, I bought her a few drinks and we talked. I finally was ready to leave and she tried to leave with me. I told her no and left. Later in my room, I thought maybe I was being too harsh. She was actually good in bed. So I texted her and asked for a price. What did she want? Yep. $120 for an hour. I told her that was ridiculous. Her response? "That's what you paid last time..[/QUOTE]Hey, don't apologize for posting honest experiences of your visit. From ground zero!

Matter of fact your take on the current Sosua, is closest to my own I've seen here for a while. I's a Sosua I actually recognize. LOL.

You are learning some basic lessons that will serve you well, if you ever return. Thanks for sharing!

If "everyplace is full of men", it is logical to assume they are not all gay. They are getting pussy like you, me, Mr E and Trip. Maybe some, like Mr E have mastered the fine art of getting free pussy in the fleshpots the world over! He's a long time critic of Sosua, but he's in DR relatively frequently, and reports regularly on the action here.

But guys can't be fucking 24/7. So where do they hang out, when not fucking? Yep, bars and restaurants where they share hoe contacts, prices, experiences, and even pissing matches, while the women stay under the radar, away from the current aggressive Politur presence. Bars are currently off limits to the hoe trade, but for how long?

One thing that makes DR kinda unique is the way they've made sex as legal as a hamburger. So you are not going to be accused of sexual harassment or insult if you invite a strange lady out for a free meal, or a fuck!

It's still slow season, but you seem to be doing ok.

Keep it up!

Friday night was bad, though it wasn't really a surprise. The bars around were full of men with a smattering of women in them. The exception again was that Hotel / Bar in the middle of the strip that usually has all many Haitians there, but even that was pretty empty.

I was looking for some nightlife and encountered a little bit of trouble walking the streets in the evening, so I became a little shy about venturing off the beaten track. I spent some time at Ramona's Bar where Ramona flirted with me heavily and the chicas glared at me. Then I went to Smiley's. Two years ago, Smiley was a great place to dance, and they had a lot of local Haitian women that would dance there. Well, that's no longer the case. Like everywhere else it was dead. If you keep going down the street there were several places that the locals would hang out, but with no activity on the street (and about 300 yards of darkness), I wasn't going to try it. I went to Blue Ice and it was too crowded and then tried the sports bar in the casino and ended up staying there. They were playing Merengue, Bachata and Reggaeton, so, I finally got to dance with a few people. Last night, there was about 25 women and three men, but I believe only two of the women were chicas, the rest were either lesbians or locals that were not interested in men. I'm feeling like they were lesbians, but I'm not 100% sure because Latina women tend to go out in groups and only dance with each other. The entire night, my Whatsapp was being bombarded with "Bebe" and "Donde Esta". I left at 3 AM and went back to Ramona's and she was still there. It will be interesting to see how that turns out, maybe she just flirts heavily with everyone. I got back to my room at 4 AM and started answering the "Bebe" and "Donde esta" texts and not one person got back to me until after I woke up this morning.

So, my little trouble. In the past, I have found several great places that locals hang out at the other end of Pedro Clisante. A year ago, I even found a strip club there at the swinger's resort (I believe they are both closed now). There is a discoteca at the very end of the street, that plays (played) great music, though not much dancing. There were bars all the way down there and it was pretty safe except for one stretch of about 300 yards that had nothing and was dark. I wasn't the only one the felt that stretch wasn't safe because when I saw the locals walking through that stretch, they all moved from the sidewalk to the middle of the street. Anyway, in my walk from Ramona's to Smiley's, a man came out of doorway and told me that he didn't want me there ruining his city. Something about going back to my part of town. He seemed really threatening at first, so I stopped and turned around to see if he had a weapon or anything. When I did that, he immediately moved about 20 ft away from me. At that point, I realized even though he was bigger than me and looked scary that he was just a little biatch. So, I turned around and kept walking, he followed behind me for about 2 blocks calling me names in Spanish and trying to be threatening, but he still kept his distance. It's easy to ignore name calling when you don't understand 50% of what was coming out his mouth. When I approached another bar with people in it, he turned around and left. Also, earlier that evening, I was taking a side road to my condo and as I walking down the street an old woman stopped me and told me that I didn't want to walk down that street and to get back on the main road. With the exception of one incident about 13 years ago, I've never had an issue walking in Sosua that wasn't chica related (chicas trying to distract me and steal my wallet and phone), so I'm sure the lack of people here is making people a little more desperate and possibly angry. It's probably going to limit my exploring a bit.

Anyway, I'm off to do a mercy fuck. A chica that has talked to me the last two days and claims she's been out every day and not made a cent. She doesn't have a phone, so it's possible. I don't know how they expect to make money without a phone.

To recap the bidding, there are few women in Sosua because of a crackdown, or is it Low Season?

Very quick update. It's Saturday night. Police are allowing the girls out. Not like before but there are at least 100 on the strip.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3034185]Very quick update. It's Saturday night. Police are allowing the girls out. Not like before but there are at least 100 on the strip.[/QUOTE]And out of those 100, how many would you fuck? That is like when my cousin called me to come down to the club saying there were tons of chicks there. Then I got there and saw there were 20 chicks weighing about 300 pounds each. He did not lie.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3034284]And out of those 100, how many would you fuck? That is like when my cousin called me to come down to the club saying there were tons of chicks there. Then I got there and saw there were 20 chicks weighing about 300 pounds each. He did not lie.[/QUOTE]It didn't matter, they cleared the streets at midnight.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3034284]And out of those 100, how many would you fuck? That is like when my cousin called me to come down to the club saying there were tons of chicks there. Then I got there and saw there were 20 chicks weighing about 300 pounds each. He did not lie.[/QUOTE]I think you might be missing the point. They are loosening up a little bit. It will be the thin edge of the wedge- the camel's nose is in the tent. LOL etc. Etc -You can't expect that the dime pieces were standing by so quantity and quality will probably go up- businesses and employees must be screaming their heads off -once the ban is not absolute. It's just a matter of time. Someone called Halloween as the deciding point. We'll see. I don't really care about the SWs but I do stay up late enough sometimes to want a bit of nightlife.

I did want to say there were many women on the street last night until about midnight. I was surprised. They were standing right next to the police and the police didn't do anything. It was a little after 11 when I saw this going on. I went into a bar and came out a little after midnight and they were all gone. They were very well behaved, no ass shaking in the streets or anything, so, I think the police were allowing them for awhile as long as they didn't act a fool. I'm probably putting too much logic in it, but I thought maybe they were allowing them out to keep the tourists somewhat happy and they would have a chance to get some numbers before they were sent away. Reality is, the cops probably give zero fucks about dealing with chicas and let them do what they want until someone important showed up.

Saturday night was somewhat eventful. I went to meet my mercy fuck (she said she's been here two days and had not worked yet). I was a little surprised as she went back to her place and actually dressed up to meet me. I feel a tiny bit bad because I think she thought I was going to take her to dinner and stuff, so she dressed up. I showed up looking like shit and just took her to my place. She was about average, nothing to write home about. We left and she told me that she thought we were going to a restaurant before we went to my place. So, I took her to a place in town and told her to order some food. Of course, she ordered the shrimp something that was like $15. I left her to eat her shrimp and went back to my condo.

When I was a half of a block from the condo, Marlene stopped me. Marlene had a certain look that's hard to explain. There are certain women that care absolutely nothing about what they wear or their nails or whatever, but you want to see them because you know they will fuck you senseless. They are attractive, but their personality is a little more masculine than feminine (they act like guys with tits and ass). I have one at home that I take out once every two months. It's like once every two months, because it takes me like 3 days to recover. Anyway, the minute she spoke to me, I knew she was one of those women. She had an incredible ass and knew it (and it looked even better naked). So, it hadn't even been 45 minutes since I was finished with my mercy fuck, so I pulled out my phone to get her number. She said, "no, we're going to go now. I'll be much better than the chica you were just with. " I told her I'the get a hold of her later and she said, "look" and pointed at my shorts, "you got hard just talking to me". She was so right. She only wanted 3000 pesos, so I definitely couldn't turn it down. So, I take her back to the condo and the security guard just starts laughing at me. Anyway, I won't go into detail, but she walked in the door grabbed a pillow off the couch, put it on the floor, got on her knees unzipped my pants and went at it. She even deep throated until she gagged several times. Without saying too much, while I've gotten to used to immediately hearing "termina" or "leche" five minutes into it here. Marlene was "mas duro". Probably the best fuck I've ever had in Sosua and she lives a half of block from me. I could be poor soon. When she left, she told me not to waste my money on the other chicas and just call her.

After all that, I went to the casino and almost bagged a non-chica Dominican woman from there. We actually made it back to my place and then her friend clam blocked me. I'm still beyond irritated about it. It's a bit of a story and this post is already too long.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3034338]After all that, I went to the casino and almost bagged a non-chica Dominican woman from there. We actually made it back to my place and then her friend clam blocked me. I'm still beyond irritated about it. It's a bit of a story and this post is already too long.[/QUOTE]We are ready to hear the story when you have time. You are the star of the thread.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3034157]To recap the bidding, there are few women in Sosua because of a crackdown, or is it Low Season?[/QUOTE]It is the crackdown. I don't know 100% if there are less there, but there are less on the main streets. Many of the women I spoke to were from Santo Domingo, so they are definitely coming here. Quite honestly, this is the best I've done here in two years, but I'm one of those people that goes Christmas shopping on Christmas Eve. It's easier to decide on something when there is not a lot to choose from.

Actually if they allow the girls to work at least some of the time that's a good sign that means they're managing the girls better.

In Cartagena the girls work the beach in a very non aggressive way (if only they could get the vendors and rappers to do the same) in the afternoons then hit the clubs around 9 then the streets at about 11 and they move around.

If The DR could get girls to work this schedule they could make money from tourism and claim the streets are clear for families at the same time.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

In the video posted on YouTube it showed more than 3 women matter of fact it was way more women than men in there.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3033592]One must ask how many ladies it takes in order for there to be a "flooding"? Must be 2 or 3. Nobody is going all the way to Sosua to have to wait until 1 am To see 3 chickenheads that they would not touch with a 10 foot pole in a casino. Even the most die hard Sosua fan, Old Kool, knew when to say when.[/QUOTE]

No tip for rush services and don't get in a car with strangers it seems as if more men will come the ladies will come too. The employment opportunities are terrible in the DR and it's hard to survive off $400 a month in that country.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3033907]Thursday was interesting. All of the men that either didn't know about what is happening here or they may have already have had their trip planned (Spirit doesn't give refunds) showed up. You could see guys walking around looking frustrated. To add to their misery, the police were much more diligent than they were Wednesday. I was at the Tiki Wiki bar on the corner and a couple actually walked in and told the women that were just sitting there to leave. Again, I went away from the strip and encountered enough chicas and got phone numbers, that it didn't bother me.

Went to the casino sports bar again. There was no one inside. Security told me to come back in 20 minutes. It was midnight. I didn't. Went to Blue Ice. It appears that the owners bring a lot of women in there to ensure guys are happy but (in my opinion), they were all ugly. They all seemed to only be interested in 20-30 year old attractive men. Well, unfortunately, that isn't Sosua. I don't believe they are allowed to approach men either. After they closed went to Ramona's (off the strip) and there were several chicas lurking. My girl from last night was out and tried really hard to get me to take her. I went home alone..[/QUOTE]

Most will say Santo Domingo but most are actually from small villages in the mountains somewhere. They only say Santo Domingo because that's what most tourists are familiar with.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3034365]It is the crackdown. I don't know 100% if there are less there, but there are less on the main streets. Many of the women I spoke to were from Santo Domingo, so they are definitely coming here. Quite honestly, this is the best I've done here in two years, but I'm one of those people that goes Christmas shopping on Christmas Eve. It's easier to decide on something when there is not a lot to choose from.[/QUOTE]

Even before the crackdown the high season was slow they boast having 6 million visitors but the airports wasn't that busy at all. Maybe everyone was flying into Punta Cuna which I doubt it, the hotels wasn't completely booked.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3034157]To recap the bidding, there are few women in Sosua because of a crackdown, or is it Low Season?[/QUOTE]

Great updates appreciate you toughening it out in the rough in Sosua. I might peep the scene on my next visit to Santo Domingo.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3034338]I did want to say there were many women on the street last night until about midnight. I was surprised. They were standing right next to the police and the police didn't do anything. It was a little after 11 when I saw this going on. I went into a bar and came out a little after midnight and they were all gone. They were very well behaved, no ass shaking in the streets or anything, so, I think the police were allowing them for awhile as long as they didn't act a fool. I'm probably putting too much logic in it, but I thought maybe they were allowing them out to keep the tourists somewhat happy and they would have a chance to get some numbers before they were sent away. Reality is, the cops probably give zero fucks about dealing with chicas and let them do what they want until someone important showed up..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3034391]In the video posted on YouTube it showed more than 3 women matter of fact it was way more women than men in there.[/QUOTE]So when are you heading down?

Stayed in Cabarete for 4 days since I wanted to walk the beach to the restaurants / bars. Some of my local friends at the dive shops tell me the area is dead and police are everywhere just pulling people over and following every chica in a short skirt walking out at night (many of the girls I saw mentioned this).

Everything has moved to Tinder / Bumble so I ordered several rounds of take out. Daily.

It's definitely pricier at 150 and a little extra for a BBJ (30-50).

But every chica I'm getting on Tinder isn't a catfish and brings to table what a $400-500/ HR girl does in NYC if not better because these DR / Venezuelan / Colombian girls know how to fuck. 350 for a threesome over 40 minutes (couldn't last for an hour). And the other one was def above average haha.

Like the classic Sosua girls are asking for $80 on tinder but she's on par with a Brooklyn troll. If I was high / didn't have so many options, I'd prob go for discount Debbie.

For all the major mongers on this thread, I apologize for paying that steeper price. This has been brought up before but my Spanish is lousy and now it's not great to just walk Sosua in the working hours. But this works for me / don't need to rent a car and still cheaper than being back in the US. My dick is so sore and I'm super content with my trip. 8 sessions in 4 days.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3034157]To recap the bidding, there are few women in Sosua because of a crackdown, or is it Low Season?[/QUOTE]

So, it's Monday evening. Today was a quiet day for me, I actually sat in my condo and worked. In the afternoon, I did go out to the bar and sit for a while. I have been stopping off at the bar every day and having a few drinks with Ms. $120 (see from a few days ago). Today, I think I pissed her off. She asked me why I had not taken her back to my place but she's seen me with many different women and I straight up told her that she costs too much. She told me that if I didn't like her price, I should ask for a better one. I told her that her price was so much higher than everyone else that it wasn't worth the effort. I would still be paying too much. My logic is that I'm only willing to pay $60. If someone approaches me asking for $120, even if I negotiate, we're probably going to come to like $80. I'd pay $80 if she weighed what she weighed 6 months ago and I could rawdog her again. So, she asked me to give her a price and I knew where it was going to go, so I simply said, "your price is your price, I would never insult you by trying to offer you a lower price. " She went from sweet and nice to quiet and angry and eventually stormed off.

Sunday was pretty dead, I even went by Bailees and it was empty. Went out dancing and got back to room and contacted Marlene (the good fuck). She showed up 10 minutes later and basically tried to rush me, when I wasn't going for it, she said she would give me a freebie later, scooped up the 3,000 pesos I left out for her and left. I blocked her on my phone. I got on my phone and contacted another chica who was at my place about 5 minutes later, she was okay for 4,000, but in reality, I spent 7,000.

Okay, the non-chica Dominican story on Saturday, this is going to be long, so if you're not interested, I have nothing relevant about the city to say after the story so you can skip it. So, I went to the casino in town (I have not been to the other casino yet). As I mentioned, when I was there Friday, it appeared that there may be quite a few lesbians that go there. I'm unsure because non-chica Latinas go out in groups and dance together. It's not like the US where women go out in groups and hope to hook up with guys, in the countries I visit, they are a bit more conservative and want to go dance and it would be somewhat scandalous if they hooked up with a guy while they were out.

So, these three women ordered a bucket of beer and were having a great time dancing with each other, but one of the kept smiling at me when her friends weren't looking. She was about 40 ish and would be someone I would think is attractive to date in US, she would be age appropriate for me (I'm 57) and honestly, she didn't look like some of the chicas, but she looked good for her age. This went on for about an hour. I invited her to come sit with me and she looked mortified and refused (which was how I was 100% sure she wasn't a chica). After her 4th or 5th refusal, I bought her a drink and had the bartender sit it next to me. She finally came over and sat with me and talked. She was completely drunk off her ass (I was also pretty wasted, but I never get too drunk when I travel, it's dangerous).

She spoke a little English but not much and I speak enough Spanish to get by, so we were actually able to communicate pretty well. About 15 minutes after she sat down, she said, "I'm very drunk and I want to fuck". So, I asked her she wanted to leave with me and she immediately got up ready to go.

So, I told her we can take a taxi to my place (I normally walk, but I didn't want to give her a chance to change her mind on the way there) and she pulls out her car keys. I immediately told her no. She definitely should not have been driving anywhere. I told her to leave the keys with her friends. She told me, not a problem I could drive and handed the keys to me. First off, I live in Seattle. You can rob someone, you can beat someone to a pulp, you could steal hundreds of thousands of dollars from a business, you can steal 20 cars and get released with no bail and if convicted get 6 months of probation, but if you get a DUI, you're going to sit in jail for a long time and when you get out, you're paying about $10-20 K in fines and penalties. I know my limit and there was no way that I'm going to drive in this place with all the crazy shit people do while I'm semi drunk.

At this point, her friends come over and the nice one saw us together and said something to her to the effect of, "finally, why did it take you so long?" She then told me in bad English that she was divorced and her man left her and she's been sitting around doing nothing since it happened. She took the keys and told me to send her my address and she will pick her up later. So, at this point, I know I'm in. A drunk woman whose husband left her and she wants to fuck and her friends approve. The friend two (the be from hell) then steps in and says, "no, let's all go!" I have a few rules that keep me out of trouble, I don't let two women in my room with me. I have done this in the past and even did it in Santo Domingo 6 months ago, but I seriously do not like the idea of having a person in my room that I can't watch at all times. I can sort of track two women, but three women, no, that is simply asking for trouble. I tried to talk them into simply staying or taking the car and leaving and then pick up her friend later but the friend from hell was not having it.

So now, I'm in a situation with someone that was obviously too drunk to drive, I wasn't going to drive and she had two friends that thought they were going to hang out at my condo. So, my drunk ass was trying to figure out how to work this. It did not go well.

Drunk lady decided she was okay to drunk after numerous protests from me. In the end, I'm like "well, ain't my car". She's in the driver's seat and I'm in the passenger's seat and I probably had one of the most terrifying 15 minutes I've ever had sitting in a passenger seat in my life. Part of this is my fault because I was so freaked out that I missed the turns to my condo and we ended up someplace that I wasn't familiar with, so I had to figure it out where we were and Google maps wasn't doing it. Eventually, after keeping her from driving down numerous one way streets the wrong way, wincing when she barely missed parked cars and waiting for her to kill a person on a moto, we get to my place. She got out of the car while it was still running and stood on the sidewalk waiting for me. I turned off the car, took the keys out of the ignition and handed them to her friend. Her friend was giving me a lecture, but the only thing I really understood was being respectful and to call her when she was ready to leave. Then the friend from hell emerges from the backseat. She is basically yelling (on the quiet street) in that fucking nasally Latina voice that I can't stand, "Proooopppiiinnaaa! Prrrroooopiinnnnna! No! No! No! Necessitamos dos mil propina!" I ignored her and me and the woman started walking to the condo and she is now yelling at the top of her lungs, "NO! NO! Prrroooppina dos mil! Dos Mil!" I told her, "callete" (sorry if my spelling is wrong) and tried to explain people were sleeping but she just kept yelling, "Prooooopiiiiina, dos mil". I finally said, "I'm not giving you dos mil for anything". Then she said if I wasn't paying the propina, then I could leave, she then ran over, grabbed her friend and started dragging her back to her car.

At that point, it was way too much drama for me and the last thing I wanted is to be in trouble for breaking the rules of the condo. I've been staying there for about 13 years. So, I went in the gate and left them there.

The next day, I got on What's App and reamed the nice girl out for what happened and though she didn't apologize, she said they were worried that they didn't have enough gas to get home. They were hoping that I would give them a few hundred pesos so they could get home later. She was too embarrassed to ask me for it. Her obnoxious friend was just drunk and figured she could fix the gas situation and get them enough money so they could go back to the casino and drink. I explained to her that in my country demanding a tip is simply rude and will always anger us. I explained that if she had simply told me the situation then I would have immediately given them the money. I know I probably wasted my fingertips texting her that, but maybe one day it will make sense.

[QUOTE=Rccola10;3034532]Stayed in Cabarete for 4 days since I wanted to walk the beach to the restaurants / bars. Some of my local friends at the dive shops tell me the area is dead and police are everywhere just pulling people over and following every chica in a short skirt walking out at night (many of the girls I saw mentioned this).

Everything has moved to Tinder / Bumble so I ordered several rounds of take out. Daily.

It's definitely pricier at 150 and a little extra for a BBJ (30-50).

But every chica I'm getting on Tinder isn't a catfish and brings to table what a $400-500/ HR girl does in NYC if not better because these DR / Venezuelan / Colombian girls know how to fuck. 350 for a threesome over 40 minutes (couldn't last for an hour). And the other one was def above average haha.

Like the classic Sosua girls are asking for $80 on tinder but she's on par with a Brooklyn troll. If I was high / didn't have so many options, I'd prob go for discount Debbie.

For all the major mongers on this thread, I apologize for paying that steeper price. This has been brought up before but my Spanish is lousy and now it's not great to just walk Sosua in the working hours. But this works for me / don't need to rent a car and still cheaper than being back in the US. My dick is so sore and I'm super content with my trip. 8 sessions in 4 days.[/QUOTE]Hey, you pay what you pay. In Seattle, $300 will get a young crack***** or a woman over 50. Anything quality is going to start at about $500. So, paying $60 is like heaven. During my trip here it's been 3000-4500 pesos. I have had a couple of chicas say $150 via text and when I don't respond drop to $100, but realistically, the girls here are so hit and miss that, paying $100 probably isn't going to get any better service than $60. People can say better looking women demand more, but I'm fucking them, not looking at them. I can find more enough women that I think are attractive in the 3000-4500 peso range.

While we are on the subject, I have talked to several people that have lived here or have been here longer than a few months, none of them said they pay any more than 4000. Actually, all of them surprised me because they mentioned they have paid as little as 1000-1500, but in general its around 3000. I asked one about who was taking 1500 and he pointed to a skinny chica standing on the corner and said she was a coke addict and would regularly take 1500. It sounds right to me, but it just seems like you're asking for trouble to save a few bucks.

[QUOTE=Rccola10;3034532]Stayed in Cabarete for 4 days since I wanted to walk the beach to the restaurants / bars. Some of my local friends at the dive shops tell me the area is dead and police are everywhere just pulling people over and following every chica in a short skirt walking out at night (many of the girls I saw mentioned this).

Everything has moved to Tinder / Bumble so I ordered several rounds of take out. Daily.

It's definitely pricier at 150 and a little extra for a BBJ (30-50).

But every chica I'm getting on Tinder isn't a catfish and brings to table what a $400-500/ HR girl does in NYC if not better because these DR / Venezuelan / Colombian girls know how to fuck. 350 for a threesome over 40 minutes (couldn't last for an hour). And the other one was def above average haha..[/QUOTE]I wouldn't be paying 13,000 pesos in the DR.

[QUOTE=Rccola10;3034532].....For all the major mongers on this thread, I apologize for paying that steeper price.......[/QUOTE]They would probably accept your apology but you really should not spend their money so freely.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;3034557]I wouldn't be paying 13,000 pesos in the DR.[/QUOTE]Last trip I made in RD the girls all quoted me 6000. I refused eveything. It was the sadest trip of my life. I will never go back in RD, the american ruined the place.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3034548]Hey, you pay what you pay. In Seattle, $300 will get a young crack***** or a woman over 50. Anything quality is going to start at about $500. So, paying $60 is like heaven. During my trip here it's been 3000-4500 pesos. I have had a couple of chicas say $150 via text and when I don't respond drop to $100, but realistically, the girls here are so hit and miss that, paying $100 probably isn't going to get any better service than $60. People can say better looking women demand more, but I'm fucking them, not looking at them. I can find more enough women that I think are attractive in the 3000-4500 peso range.

While we are on the subject, I have talked to several people that have lived here or have been here longer than a few months, none of them said they pay any more than 4000. Actually, all of them surprised me because they mentioned they have paid as little as 1000-1500, but in general its around 3000. I asked one about who was taking 1500 and he pointed to a skinny chica standing on the corner and said she was a coke addict and would regularly take 1500. It sounds right to me, but it just seems like you're asking for trouble to save a few bucks.[/QUOTE]3000 k especially outside of Sosua / Caberete is the normal price and actually less, In most situations 1500 is pushing it for quality but if you're an expat your johnny on the spot for bills and emergency money. Yesterday I had a girl call me and I said 11 am she texted me today saying "God Willing I will be there 11 am on Saturday. That's after the first #rentdue.

But hanging around expats is good too because chicas know that the expat probably hipped you to prices.

I hate to negative about Sosua but because the average tourist stays for less than a week and returns maybe once every couple of years chicas are not motivated to seek repeat business from a visitor it's all about stick and move with them.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3034544]Eventually, after keeping her from driving down numerous one way streets the wrong way, wincing when she barely missed parked cars and waiting for her to kill a person on a moto, we get to my place.[/QUOTE]I remember the first time a chick in Santo Domingo drove down a one way the wrong way. I felt the same way you did. She said this is the Dominican Republic. Now I do the same thing myself. It is okay to drive down one way side streets at night!

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3034641]3000 k especially outside of Sosua / Caberete is the normal price and actually less, In most situations 1500 is pushing it for quality but if you're an expat your johnny on the spot for bills and emergency money.[/QUOTE]Yep. Chick that I guess you guys would call a semi-pro (has a government office job) in Santo Domingo tried to get me for $100. I told her $40. She said that is too little. Then she said $80 and I said no way. She then offered 4000 pesos. I said 3000. She said bye, but she was on the way 30 seconds after she wrote bye.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3034637]Last trip I made in RD the girls all quoted me 6000. I refused eveything. It was the sadest trip of my life. I will never go back in RD, the american ruined the place.[/QUOTE]Actually, the previous post sort explains a lot, I had a couple of people initially say $150, then drop to $100 immediately. I didn't think people were paying it. But I should know better, if they thought it was impossible to get, they wouldn't ask for it. I was at the hooker hotel in Jaco Beach several years ago and all the would tell me $200 US. I regularly paid about $120 and was happy and thought I was a great negotiator. Then I sat with a group of guys and they all said they were paying $80. I was like "Bullshit!" So, they called a fantastic looking girl over and said, "my friend likes you, he will give $80 to go to his room right now". She grabbed my hand and we left. I guess there is always someone that can do better than you price wise.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3034666]Actually, the previous post sort explains a lot, I had a couple of people initially say $150, then drop to $100 immediately. I didn't think people were paying it. But I should know better, if they thought it was impossible to get, they wouldn't ask for it. I was at the hooker hotel in Jaco Beach several years ago and all the would tell me $200 US. I regularly paid about $120 and was happy and thought I was a great negotiator. Then I sat with a group of guys and they all said they were paying $80. I was like "Bullshit!" So, they called a fantastic looking girl over and said, "my friend likes you, he will give $80 to go to his room right now". She grabbed my hand and we left. I guess there is always someone that can do better than you price wise.[/QUOTE]That was a slick move. I hope you bought those guys a round of drinks after.

Neither will I mother fucker got to be making some shit up and not only that it's fucks up the game real bad.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;3034557]I wouldn't be paying 13,000 pesos in the DR.[/QUOTE]

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Mainly because I got to hit up West Africa again mainly Liberia and Sierra Leone and normally I don't do travel announcements.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3034442]So when are you heading down?[/QUOTE]

Quick rundown on yesterday. Quite a few women hanging out in bars, but off the streets. Owners of the bars didn't seem to mind. Did three yesterday, two were the usual. The third one was Nicol. Nicol was from Santiago and I saw her on the street a couple of times. She was wearing a (p) leather vest and (p) leather short skirt. I was at a bar off off the strip and she approached me and opened up her unzipped vest to show me a see-through nylon top she was wearing. Then she grabbed my hand, lifted her skirt up and put it on her ass. I'm not a boob guy, but I liked something about her basically going topless in public showing her tits to me multiple times, lifting her skirt up several times in public and she even moved her panties aside (from behind) so I could take a look made me think she might be my type of woman. One of the other chicas sitting at the bar actually told her to be careful because there were cameras around. She then sat down next to me on the bar stool where no one could see, reached into my pants (I was weariing workout shorts) and starting massaging my junk. I had no intention of seeing someone else and it pretty much changed. She was wearing a LOT of makeup, which had me a little concerned. I'll be honest, the fact that she was wearing a LOT of makeup, she was aggressively flaunting her boobs and ass in public and she immediately went for my junk in my pants made me think of only one thing. It's a guy that got a boob job. So, I was watching the other chicas to see if one of them was going to tip me off. Nothing. So, I casually started reaching up under her skirt (this is terrible), to see if I could feel a lump. Every time I got close, she'd grab my hand and put it on her ass. She wanted $3 K. So, I said let's have a drink. I bought her a drink and started asking questions like "do you have any kids?" At any point, she had massaged my junk so much that I was really ready to go. For those of you that think I'm being weird, I had a Crying Game experience about 20+ years ago in Peru and I definitely did not want to repeat it. So, just to make a final check. I used Google translate on my phone to ask the bartender if she was an actual chica. The bartender just laughed at me and told me yes.

So, we went to my place and she fucked me stupid. She had her clothes off in about a minute, went and took a shower, came out undid my pants and started giving me a BJ, then she hopped on the bed doggy style and smacked her ass a couple of times ready to go. She had zero interest in a condom, so I got on the bed and then right before I stuck it in, I thought of the women that I have been seeing at home and that if I brought back something they'd be pissed. I've worked hard to get my rotation and it would suck to have to start over. My doctor prescribed Doxycycline for occasions like this (I'm upfront about what I do) which I have with me, but that only stops Chlamydia and Gonorrhea. So, I stopped and grabbed a condom, the entire time she is on the bed fingering herself like crazy. Anyway, she was way over the top, she was screaming and "Dios Mio" ing and doing all sorts of weird convulsions and shit. If I was gullible, I would have believed it, but it didn't negate the fact the I was definitely jackhammering her and whenever I slowed down it was "mas duro". I probably would have been done in like 5 minutes, but I had seen someone an two hours or so earlier, so I made it about 15 minutes. We got dressed and I walked her out and I was going to go back into town, but my hamstrings and ass were kiliing me, I was sweating like crazy and my heart was still racing (15 minutes later). So, I went back to the room, sat down and immediately fell asleep.

Other notes about yesterday, I had not one, but two women try and pick my picket yesterday. I haven't really encountered that here before. One was on the street, she kept talking to me, trying to convince me to take her back to my place and she would brush her hand against my junk and it would settle on the pocket with my wallet in it. I figured it was just an accident and moved her hand away and she tried to distract me and then her hand was on that wallet again. I turned around and walked off. The second one was sitting next to me at a bar. She sat down on my left and put her hand on my leg. Out of habit, I took my wallet out and moved it to my right pocket (I've been doing that for decades). She then gets up, talks to her friends a bit and comes back and sits in the seat to my right and puts her hand on my leg again (even though all her shit was in front of the seat to my left). I just got up and left.

That's it for me and Sosua, I'm off to Santo Domingo at 3 AM to catch a flight to Cartagena. A quick summary, I lost count, but based on condoms I have left, I did 14 or so chicas here. Two cost 3000 which were by far the best two (even though one ripped me off later). I paid 3500 for one and 4500 for another. The rest were 4000. I never really thought about it, but I guess I have a "type". All except one were 5'1" to 5'4" and 120-130 lbs. I'm not a boob guy, but they were all adequate in the boob range (like a be cup). All of them except one had incredible asses, nothing gaudy big, but big compared to their body size. If that's what you like, I would assume you'll be paying something in the same range as me. 8 days, zero sun. Hopefully, I can lie in the sun all day in Cartagena.

I told Ms. $120 that I was leaving today, she offered me a "friend" discount of $75.00. Should have just spent that shit in Cartagena.

Thanks for all the great reports this week. I'll be down there from the 7th to the 16th. I have enough contacts from years past, that I'm very much looking forward to my vacation. But I am sad about the changes in the Sue. I had thought about cancelling my plans at some point, but I'm confident I'm going to have a great week. Your reports helped with that.

I'm in Sosua now. Its bad. I counted 19 cops / military guys walking for the supermarket to MAG'S. Its a Friday night at 9 pm. I took a look in Rumbas and there was about 10 chicas and 40 guys. Its real bad.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3035246]I'm in Sosua now. Its bad. I counted 19 cops / military guys walking for the supermarket to MAG'S. Its a Friday night at 9 pm. I took a look in Rumbas and there was about 10 chicas and 40 guys. Its real bad.[/QUOTE]So each guy gets 6 hours with a chick before he has to pass her along to the next guy. That is plenty of time.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3035265]So each guy gets 6 hours with a chick before he has to pass her along to the next guy. That is plenty of time.[/QUOTE]The first time I been in sosua all club had a few dozens of girls ready to go out with a dude. Classico was like terma in Bangkok, a line up of girls all around the bar just waiting to go back at the hotel with the first good offer they got. The last time I been there it was very sad. This post just confirm its even worse now.

In spite of all, Sosua is a busy place.

Saturday was one big traffic jam on the Highway and in town. Cops were letting everything go, motoconchos with no helmets, the "banned" quads were out in force on Pedro, the "loud" motorcycles were louder than ever, Bailees is the new Classico ground zero and was as busy as ever, and it was hard to find an ATM that had money! The people were out shopping, spending money, eating, and presumably fucking, but not on the main strip as much as usual.

The cops are sitting back, looking like the job is done and the government have made their point, once again.

A few bars have opened and re-opened off the strip, Rancho Tipica is open again and busy as ever.

The chicas are everywhere, and if you walk around you will be propositioned at some point. The pussy is still there, and unless they close it down later tonight, it looks like Sosua still has life in the old girl!

High season is coming up, so we'll see if it holds!

I was there last year at this time and the turnout wasn't at all impressive for Halloween. But I don't think a 9 pm post can tell the true story of Sosua. I am waiting to hear another post from this guy.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3035246]I'm in Sosua now. Its bad. I counted 19 cops / military guys walking for the supermarket to MAG'S. Its a Friday night at 9 pm. I took a look in Rumbas and there was about 10 chicas and 40 guys. Its real bad.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blakman;3035430]I was there last year at this time and the turnout wasn't at all impressive for Halloween. But I don't think a 9 pm post can tell the true story of Sosua. I am waiting to hear another post from this guy.[/QUOTE]LOL. Why do folks keep waiting for someone to post that things are back to how they were before? It is like 8 doctors have told you that you have cancer, but you keep looking for the doctor that will say you do not have it.

I won't be on the ground for another couple weeks but people in an online forum were complaining the chicas are out and the cops are acting like Project Atlantico never happened. Whether this was a special dispensation for Halloween or whether business as usual is returning who can say. I'm thinking that the thousands of people who lost or were losing their jobs finally got the attention of the powers that be. Maybe the whole thing was just to fuck Willie and his new club. Who can say. They did say that there were guys ripping around on 4-wheelers too. The loud, the visible and the overtly disrespectful behavior will get the whole thing shut down again if people aren't a little more discrete. Hopefully the weekend warriors will figure this out. What am I saying. It's Sosua -nobody ever learns from anything that happens.

[QUOTE=Norbert61;3035497]I won't be on the ground for another couple weeks but people in an online forum were complaining the chicas are out and the cops are acting like Project Atlantico never happened. Whether this was a special dispensation for Halloween or whether business as usual is returning who can say. I'm thinking that the thousands of people who lost or were losing their jobs finally got the attention of the powers that be. Maybe the whole thing was just to fuck Willie and his new club. Who can say. They did say that there were guys ripping around on 4-wheelers too. The loud, the visible and the overtly disrespectful behavior will get the whole thing shut down again if people aren't a little more discrete. Hopefully the weekend warriors will figure this out. What am I saying. It's Sosua -nobody ever learns from anything that happens.[/QUOTE]LOL.

Last time I checked, gas was cheaper, the planet didn't fry us all, Trump never went to jail, WW3 deferred indefinitely, and mongers are still fucking putas in Sosua.

No matter how fast you do the rain dance, and rattle the bones, it still doesn't work!

There's this little thing, often ignored, called human nature!

Nobody is talking about that exchange rate against the USD being at a 10 year high.

Money saved from not traveling to Sosua is happily going towards trip to Ghana.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3035492]LOL. Why do folks keep waiting for someone to post that things are back to how they were before? It is like 8 doctors have told you that you have cancer, but you keep looking for the doctor that will say you do not have it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3035246]I'm in Sosua now. Its bad. I counted 19 cops / military guys walking for the supermarket to MAG'S. Its a Friday night at 9 pm. I took a look in Rumbas and there was about 10 chicas and 40 guys. Its real bad.[/QUOTE]Wasn't like that when I was going. We had it good. Now everything is about social media and AI, LOL.

And. Passport bros have a brawl in the casino. So much for things loosening up.

[QUOTE=Norbert61;3036140]And. Passport bros have a brawl in the casino. So much for things loosening up.[/QUOTE]Hearing from a guy with boots on ground now that although smaller numbers and girls riding on motoconchos that things are back to normal.

I'm going to say what Oakie would say and this is "The Sky is Falling" talk, Shit happens the Mayor owns the casino there were no reported arrests or even hospital visits /.

If anything this shows that Sosua values the African American dollar.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3036200]Hearing from a guy with boots on ground now that although smaller numbers and girls riding on motoconchos that things are back to normal.

I'm going to say what Oakie would say and this is "The Sky is Falling" talk, Shit happens the Mayor owns the casino there were no reported arrests or even hospital visits /.

If anything this shows that Sosua values the African American dollar.[/QUOTE]I would not mistake that loosening the choke hold now means that things are free to get out of hand as they were before. Now that things are under control, they do not have to be as aggressive with it.

[QUOTE=Norbert61;3036140]And. Passport bros have a brawl in the casino. So much for things loosening up.[/QUOTE]This vibe is one of the main reasons I lost interest in the place. I don't want to go somewhere for vacation and see what I left.

[QUOTE=Norbert61;3036140]And. Passport bros have a brawl in the casino. So much for things loosening up.[/QUOTE]The new mayor of NYC said he wants to make prostitution legal. If this happens, I wonder if the Passport Bros will just stay home and save on the travel expenses.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3036385]The new mayor of NYC said he wants to make prostitution legal. If this happens, I wonder if the Passport Bros will just stay home and save on the travel expenses.[/QUOTE]Not if it's costing $500 a fuck! These tutes would have to come down off the golden pussy syndrome. Besides, I just love to travel anyway. Not staying home for overpriced American pussy with mediocre to bad performance.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3036386]Not if it's costing $500 a fuck! These tutes would have to come down off the golden pussy syndrome. Besides, I just love to travel anyway. Not staying home for overpriced American pussy with mediocre to bad performance.[/QUOTE]There are already prostitutes right off the boat from places like Venezuela and Colombia in Queens. I doubt people are paying even $100 now. If it became legal. That would drive prices down.

What's the situation in Sosua now? Is the crackdown over?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3036434]There are already prostitutes right off the boat from places like Venezuela and Colombia in Queens. I doubt people are paying even $100 now. If it became legal. That would drive prices down.[/QUOTE]Why? Can you name one industrial nation, legal or not, where the hobby is cheap?

Of course, we're jumping ahead of ourselves. Sooner the new mayor stops being a mayor than this becomes legal in New York. The best we can hope for is maybe they'll quit raiding the joints. Or not.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;3036480]Why? Can you name one industrial nation, legal or not, where the hobby is cheap?

Of course, we're jumping ahead of ourselves. Sooner the new mayor stops being a mayor than this becomes legal in New York. The best we can hope for is maybe they'll quit raiding the joints. Or not.[/QUOTE]I'm speaking of NYC. I don't know about other localities outside of the USA. I don't know what guys currently pay for hookers in Queens so I would need more information, as I'm speculating. That being said, I don't expect Venezuelans straight off the boat to charge exorbitant prices in Queens, but we'll see. Like I said, I don't know what guys are currently paying in an illegal market.

Besides the transactional costs directly with a prostitute, other costs like time off from work, travel, hotel, convenience, etc. , could also make a local option more appealing. Before Giuliani when the sex trade in Times Square was booming, there was an option that a lot of people took advantage of. I realize times are different now, but I think there will always be a demand for a local option if it is legal, provides value and is well managed. Doesn't mean guys won't still travel because the cat has already been let loose out of the box, but it could lessen the travel, particularly for the younger guys coming up.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3036434]There are already prostitutes right off the boat from places like Venezuela and Colombia in Queens. I doubt people are paying even $100 now. If it became legal. That would drive prices down.[/QUOTE]No one's charging $100 in NYC. Even if prostitution is made legal the best you will get is $250 per hour and that is even if the cost of living goes down which does not seem possible.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3036435]What's the situation in Sosua now? Is the crackdown over?[/QUOTE]I have been here for about a month and things are picking up. The one block strip is kind of dead but I see many people arriving and the beach was pretty busy today. The guys in my condo complex do not seem to have problems with new girls all the time. Sosua may be different than before but still plenty of women to go around.

I am here recovering from multiple surgeries this summer before. I head back to Thailand so do not stay out late at night so I can not comment on the late night action.

I really have not liked Sosua much since Passions was shut down. Give me Pattaya ant day.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3036558]No one's charging $100 in NYC. [/QUOTE]Like I said, I don't know what guys are paying in Queens. If you have real info, that's helpful. I didn't think guys were paying that much for girls right off the boat.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3036547]I'm speaking of NYC. I don't know about other localities outside of the USA. I don't know what guys currently pay for hookers in Queens so I would need more information, as I'm speculating. That being said, I don't expect Venezuelans straight off the boat to charge exorbitant prices in Queens, but we'll see. Like I said, I don't know what guys are currently paying in an illegal market.

Besides the transactional costs directly with a prostitute, other costs like time off from work, travel, hotel, convenience, etc. , could also make a local option more appealing. Before Giuliani when the sex trade in Times Square was booming, there was an option that a lot of people took advantage of. I realize times are different now, but I think there will always be a demand for a local option if it is legal, provides value and is well managed. Doesn't mean guys won't still travel because the cat has already been let loose out of the box, but it could lessen the travel, particularly for the younger guys coming up.[/QUOTE]I'd never partaken prior to Giuliani, but pre-Covid you could get an hour at $150 from Chinese or $120 from Russian girls for 30 minutes in Brooklyn and Queens. That were the bottom prices, as far as I remember. You could also get a he massage for about $100. I don't know the today's scene firsthand, but I'm sure Turgid's number is closer to reality.

I don't believe commercial sex if legalized will become cheaper. In your example, Venezuelans straight off the boat, would tap the local knowledge base from their sisters and find a Señora first. No one would allow them to undercut the market.

[QUOTE=StickyRice555;3036579]I have been here for about a month and things are picking up. The one block strip is kind of dead but I see many people arriving and the beach was pretty busy today. The guys in my condo complex do not seem to have problems with new girls all the time. Sosua may be different than before but still plenty of women to go around.

I am here recovering from multiple surgeries this summer before. I head back to Thailand so do not stay out late at night so I can not comment on the late night action.

I really have not liked Sosua much since Passions was shut down. Give me Pattaya ant day.[/QUOTE]Yup plenty of ToTo in the Su if you know how to move, have contacts use the tella chica net work your good, now guys that want pussy served on a silver plata well that ship has sailed,! Funn I know a 78 yr old guy from the stes he down there for the winter, hes banging haitian chicas 18 to 24 yrs old no problem he just has them come over dosent need to hit the streets for Dark Chocolate!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3036584]Like I said, I don't know what guys are paying in Queens. If you have real info, that's helpful. I didn't think guys were paying that much for girls right off the boat.[/QUOTE]Ok, let me correct myself. A provider charging $100 in NYC is likely to be ugly, fat and abusing substances. A doable girl just off the boat with a brain in her head will know what to charge. I assume you were referring to price per hour.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3036687]Ok, let me correct myself. A provider charging $100 in NYC is likely to be ugly, fat and abusing substances. A doable girl just off the boat with a brain in her head will know what to charge. I assume you were referring to price per hour.[/QUOTE]Like I said, I have no actual knowledge of prices so all I can do is speculate. I haven't mongered in NYC since high school. I'm just thinking these chicas right off the boat that can't even speak English are accessible for much less, but I have no actual knowledge of the situation. Also, I don't know the situation with pimps or other people that might influence what they charge. As far as looks, I would think 80% would be average for the country they come from at best.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3036687]Ok, let me correct myself. A provider charging $100 in NYC is likely to be ugly, fat and abusing substances. A doable girl just off the boat with a brain in her head will know what to charge. I assume you were referring to price per hour.[/QUOTE]In my town, we got the really hot escorts [B]starting[/B] at $500 per hour. And that's the low end for attractive, thin, clean, non-druggie, American (non-illegal immigrant, not just off the boat) tutes. I ain't paying that. If legalization truly served to create a competitive marketplace that brought prices down that would be good!

OK. So just to change the subject to talk about hookers in Sosua- I heard there was another round up on Friday night- can anyone confirm what went on. I can't believe they loosened up just to crack down again just before US Thanksgiving.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3036691]..... I haven't mongered in NYC since high school........[/QUOTE]I first started mongering in NYC when I got my first job in the early 70's. Those were my best mongering days even though I could not do more than one per week due to lack of money LOL. I remember paying $10 for really hot babes back then and the price did not go up that much even up to the 80's. Its crazy now.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3036812]I first started mongering in NYC when I got my first job in the early 70's. Those were my best mongering days even though I could not do more than one per week due to lack of money LOL. I remember paying $10 for really hot babes back then and the price did not go up that much even up to the 80's. Its crazy now.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the 70's /80's were iconic for mongering and hoes in NYC.

We just want to read news about p$%sy on the ground in Sosua or playa chiquita casino. I don't even buy p$ssy in the united states. Stick to main reason for the forum LOL unless you talking about Ghana. LOL.

[QUOTE=Norbert61;3036756]OK. So just to change the subject to talk about hookers in Sosua- I heard there was another round up on Friday night- can anyone confirm what went on. I can't believe they loosened up just to crack down again just before US Thanksgiving.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3036826]Yeah, the 70's /80's were iconic for mongering and hoes in NYC.[/QUOTE]I used to visit that establishment in the 70's. There were nude girls on stage, you put your token, tip them and you can DATY them. If I'm not mistaken it was opposite the greatest of them all 'Show World Inc. " Three levels of nude DATYable girls. Great times. Fuck Sosewer.

Just returned from a short trip to Sosua. Mainly a dive trip and have been diving and chasing chicas there for many years. I was there in May and met a chica I really liked. Very attractive, somewhat sophisticated and definitely a cut above the typical Sosua street rat. I kept in touch with her and we set up a return visit. She lives way out of town and had a long bus ride to get back to Sosua. We discussed a daily routine and some prices. I've never "wifed up" before but thought it might be a good idea this trip due to the recent crackdown. Overall, had a good week!!

My flight on American was 6 hours late from Miami due to a mechanical issue, so got in late. My friend was going to stay with a local sister, who I later met. (I had offered to get her a room in my hotel as I do NOT do any overnights.) Typically, I spent the mornings diving, then texted my chica friend to meet me at my hotel. We played a little, then headed down to Alicia Beach to swim and relax. Then dinner for 2 at one of the nicer restaurants in Sosua. (Coco, Margo, Tierra Linda and another place I can't remember the name of.).

I stayed at Alicia Beach Hotel and think it is a great property. Quiet area, decent room with great A / see and hot water and got the breakfast deal with the room for $60 a night. Very chica friendly and they hold the chica's ID for safety.

I ended up paying her around $110 a day and felt that was a good price for all the fun I wanted and great company, esp a nice dinner companion. I gave her a bit extra the last night to help with the bus ticket (she said it was around $30 round trip).

My overall impressions of Sosua: definitely a strong police / military presence all over, esp at night, altho I saw pairs of police / soldiers during the day, too. They never bothered me or my lady but we were obviously a couple. I did see the police chase one lady down the street but not sure what brought on the incident. There are girls around; ran into a few on the streets and saw quite a few in various bars and restaurants. Some nights after my girl left, I did a short walk around and felt there would have been plenty of available women had I not made other arrangements.

So. It's not the wild west it used to be, but I think still plenty of action for a typical monger. Not sure what the long term forecast for Sosua is, but it does seem to be recovering a bit. I noticed the hard Rock Cafe was pretty much empty every night Don't think it will last long. Most restaurants pretty empty. Some other patrons but certainly not very busy.

Just got back from my weeks vacation. Had a great time. But like people have said, things have changed for the worse. I got by pretty well with a rotation of 4 girls. 2 I had met before on previous trips. One was a new girl I met on the street the second night there and kept seeing her all week. The 4th was a non-pro local girl who works at the dive center. My Dominican friend set me up with her. Sex was very GFE, but I think in the future I should just stick with putas to keep it simple. Anyway, my routine was play golf or go to the beach, hook up twice a day and eat a lot of good food. I don't stay out at night, so the nightlife crackdown doesn't bother me as much. Went to Santiago one day to go to an Aguilas baseball game. Went to Playa Grande one day. All things considered, for a warm weather vacation with cheap pussy, still hard to beat Sosua. I'm just mad about what they took away from us.

[QUOTE=Vern2020;3037982]Just got back from my weeks vacation. Had a great time. But like people have said, things have changed for the worse. I got by pretty well with a rotation of 4 girls. 2 I had met before on previous trips. One was a new girl I met on the street the second night there and kept seeing her all week. The 4th was a non-pro local girl who works at the dive center. My Dominican friend set me up with her. Sex was very GFE, but I think in the future I should just stick with putas to keep it simple. Anyway, my routine was play golf or go to the beach, hook up twice a day and eat a lot of good food. I don't stay out at night, so the nightlife crackdown doesn't bother me as much. Went to Santiago one day to go to an Aguilas baseball game. Went to Playa Grande one day. All things considered, for a warm weather vacation with cheap pussy, still hard to beat Sosua. [B]I'm just mad about what they took away from us.[/B][/QUOTE]I'm afraid that's the future of mongering everywhere! No politician is running on making sex tourists happy.

On every ISG Forum, folks harken back to "the good old days"!

Sosua at least has legal prostitution, and a support industry, guest friendly hotels, and more than enough chicas on the game to let you fuck 24/7 if that's your thing.

It also offers a safe tropical island, with beautiful beaches and a variety of restaurants, and enough of the other pastimes you mention, to take care of any down time.

All within an easy 3/4 hours of USA Major hubs.

Maybe it's not what it was, but still beats that frozen sex prison up North! Especially for ex-pats!

And unless you need to be hand fed a prostitute with a menu tattooed to her ass, by a semi legal pimp, fun can be had!

Glad you figured out how to make the most of it!

Thursday 6. 30 pm.

Took a rare walk downtown in search of a decent pizza! My go to woodburning oven places. Bailees is good, but the service is crap. Takes an hour before it comes and another hour to get your bill! Old reliable Pirates Cove has closed and re-opened to mixed reviews, and Terra Linda / Scotch Sirloin carry on their relentless March to mediocrity and losing any connection with Italian cuisine, sauce etc. Margo, Bologna, Nelson's are lightweights but passable. Call a Pizza is definitely out!

But hunger took over and dropped in to Terra anyway, hoping for a different chef. Got a huge pie for 650, they called a medium, so good value by weight at least. But didn't have that "Yes! Factor so took most of it across the street to old pal Rosa and her girls. Small bar opposite old Rockey's but they got 20 people in there, mostly Germans who have remained her customers over the years. Had a front row seat to Dr Rosen for an hour or so, and checked out the scene, then left telling her I'd pay her later, and walked around the block.

Waking down there and around the block noticed a vibe in the air. Lots of guys on the street, bars re-opening for the season, old staple 4 Roses street bar-be-q up near Europa re-opened, Europa bar busy, Ranch Tipica open, most bars on the main drag open with plenty of customers. Rumba football crowd happy.

No chicas on the stroll, a few cops in pairs walking around, but no apparent raids. Chica are in the bars in pairs waiting to be approached, so no more in yer face groping and twerking. A few walking, but on the side streets, looking like they are going somewhere, but catching your eye as you pass, with a quiet "Hola". A couple of knockouts with fresh bodies and face walking up Dr. Rosen that gave me that old ache in the groin, drew my attention, as well as everybody else, LOL.

Walking home, stopped at Super Liquor, big crowd of young chicas buying party supplies, so I lined up behind this absolute beauty, again, young and fresh erection worthy. I wanted to see who was paying for this stuff, and when it was all totted up, the young barely legal hottie reached over and gave a Mastercard, WTF? Some lucky guys are having fun tonight!

Bottom line, in the past it was hard to find a gem on the stroll when they had all the skanks clogging up the sidewalks, but now they are out and visible! I could have had a good time with at least half a dozen I met on my walk, if I wasn't busy trying not to answer the texts that were popping up on my phone from a semi that works in my bar, trying to figure out where to meet her somewhere we are both not recognized for devious reasons LOL. (No secrets in Sosua) And at my age, too! Grasia Dios!

Finished up in my local, for a beer. Left saying I'd pay later.

The other day I was making jokes with the servers about the price of my cocktail, sometimes it's 2 for 1, and sometimes it isn't. Manager came over and she explained to me that some of us regulars got 2 for 1 but others didn't. She said I was with a complainer drinking the same drink as I was when I made a big deal about the price.

Big Ooops!

Like I never figured out it can be awkward for bar staff and my little colmado to hear me leave and shout, "Pay you later! When they have to have a "no credit" policy to stay in business!

I can be a dumbfuck sometimes!

But hey! Live and learn!

[QUOTE=Oakie;3039606].....Bottom line, in the past it was hard to find a gem on the stroll when they had all the skanks clogging up the sidewalks, but now they are out and visible! I could have had a good time with at least half a dozen I met on my walk, if I wasn't busy trying not to answer the texts that were popping up on my phone.....[/QUOTE]Oh! So those gems are available arriba?

[QUOTE=Turgid;3039737]Oh! So those gems are available arriba?[/QUOTE]I guess it's like when you clean the store of crap, the good stuff stands out a little better.

On my walk I didn't get approached by any spandex skanks, actually didn't see any!

But I got a few nods from some doable girls, and was almost tempted to take a run at some of the high end beauties I saw! But my dance card is too full already!

Who knows how long it will last?

On a sad note no bunea w.

Hen you get sick go to a local hospital then croak, Well Any who this older gent from the states 78 years old that I've know for the past 6 years was a heavy hitter, meaning mucho legal age haiten chicas funny last year his birth day part he had a 4 some hehe, This older guy was a character, we all joked and called him the Sosua Santa Clause, chicas would aleays show up at his apartment looking for some peso his rule was 1500 pesos take it or leave it! Back story this guy owned an adult camp ground in wisconson, did preaty well camp ground was always booked with adult campers, but in the winter he would stay down here for 5 months, Poor guy had diabeatis had to take insuline daily, I spoke to himm Nov 11th I just arrived here yesterday and my taxi guy who works part time as asecurity guard said he got sick and died in the hospital, Rip sir! At least he had a good run! Feel bad for his family on the legistics of getting him back to the states carry on be safe sirs!

Travelled to few other mongering destinations but never been to DR, curious to go in December and explore Sousa. Been following this thread for some time and get very mixed vibes about the experiences. Appreciate any suggestions for a DR first timer with limited espanol. Safer hotel options to stay with relatively easy access to chicas, any nice streets / locations to walk around during the day, pensions / clubs to visit etc. , Appreciate any specific feed backs as I might get an opportunity to venture out in couple of weeks.

[QUOTE=WGraves;3039922]Travelled to few other mongering destinations but never been to DR, curious to go in December and explore Sousa. Been following this thread for some time and get very mixed vibes about the experiences. Appreciate any suggestions for a DR first timer with limited espanol. Safer hotel options to stay with relatively easy access to chicas, any nice streets / locations to walk around during the day, pensions / clubs to visit etc. , Appreciate any specific feed backs as I might get an opportunity to venture out in couple of weeks.[/QUOTE]There's a mixed bag of reviews here so I would check them out for the ones that appeal to your own needs and circumstances. Like restaurant reviews.

Some love it, some hate it!

But if you've got this far after reading the posts, you might be a candidate for the former!

Also read the Sosua Hotel reviews! The ones frequently mentioned are safe and friendly and well located. Prostitution is legal and there are lots of ladies on the game. A smile and you will be propositioned.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3039606]Thursday 6. 30 pm.

Took a rare walk downtown in search of a decent pizza! My go to woodburning oven places. Bailees is good, but the service is crap. Takes an hour before it comes and another hour to get your bill! Old reliable Pirates Cove has closed and re-opened to mixed reviews, and Terra Linda / Scotch Sirloin carry on their relentless March to mediocrity and losing any connection with Italian cuisine, sauce etc. Margo, Bologna, Nelson's are lightweights but passable. Call a Pizza is definitely out![/QUOTE]Casa Coco. Stuffed crust meat lovers- the only pizza around here worth eating.

I've been down for a couple weeks. There are definitely fewer chicas around and they are dressed more discretely but they are there. They were even hanging out on the sidewalk in front of Central. There were passport bros around but about 20% of what I would expect. I don't know what the long-term result of that will be. You can't just take 2 or 3 million dollars a week out of the system in a town like this and not expect impacts. To me it looks like things are ramping up but very slowly. My rotation of girls is unaffected by the crackdown and in fact new ones are actually pursuing me fairly aggressively. All in all the chica situation for me has been awesome but I am in the old gringo expat demographic. Price of drinks seems to be up a bit but the weather's great and the beach is awesome.

[QUOTE=Norbert61;3039942]Casa Coco. Stuffed crust meat lovers- the only pizza around here worth eating.[/QUOTE]I'll check it out!

By the way, Danny up the street is still baking apple pies and Shepherds Pie to order. 700, for Shepherds, but enough for two. Zap it up, and get him to give you a shot of Worcester Sauce to go with it.

Sosua haters keep saying it's dead, but keep visiting! WTF?

Here's the thing, like you just said. Even the complainers brag their "roster is full" and can always get laid, (some even for free, LOL).

Like they want to be seen as members of some elite gang who can get their pussy, while telling others, Sosua is done like dinner!

Mr. E, Travelman, Sudsy, OldKool all claim to get all the pussy they want, but you poor dopes, can't, because you'll be getting ripped off! It's obvious they want to be seen as having some "special sauce", that's not available to the common proles. It's just a pissing match with them.

But it's bullshit, all 10 years of it!

I see new and old visitors every day, and I can tell you everybody who wants to, is getting well laid. It's the rule, NOT the exception!

Thank you so much taking time to respond. I did flip thru pages on the Hotels section and posted this ask with some specific location names in that group. Planning for a visit to Sousa in December, never been to DR and first timer but heard about it and seen few YouTube videos. Primary purpose is hobby and looking for ideal location to stay with near by action. Planning to fly in Puerto Plata Airport (POP) and take a cab. Reading this forum, I can sum up following locations seems to be the obvious choices. Please help me what would be ideal spot for a 2 or 3 nights stay. I don't need great wifi or very quiet room but looking to score some nice chicas. Below is what I could short list in no particular order.

1) Sousa Inn Hotel.

2) Hotel El Rancho Sousa.

3) Alicia Beach Hotel.

4) Hotel Sea Breeze.

5) Casa Valeria Boutique Hotel.

I am able to send / receive DM if you prefer. Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3039928]There's a mixed bag of reviews here so I would check them out for the ones that appeal to your own needs and circumstances. Like restaurant reviews.

Some love it, some hate it!

But if you've got this far after reading the posts, you might be a candidate for the former!

Also read the Sosua Hotel reviews! The ones frequently mentioned are safe and friendly and well located. Prostitution is legal and there are lots of ladies on the game. A smile and you will be propositioned.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WGraves;3039992]Thank you so much taking time to respond. I did flip thru pages on the Hotels section and posted this ask with some specific location names in that group. Planning for a visit to Sousa in December, never been to DR and first timer but heard about it and seen few YouTube videos. Primary purpose is hobby and looking for ideal location to stay with near by action. Planning to fly in Puerto Plata Airport (POP) and take a cab. Reading this forum, I can sum up following locations seems to be the obvious choices. Please help me what would be ideal spot for a 2 or 3 nights stay. I don't need great wifi or very quiet room but looking to score some nice chicas. Below is what I could short list in no particular order.

1) Sousa Inn Hotel.

2) Hotel El Rancho Sousa.

3) Alicia Beach Hotel.

4) Hotel Sea Breeze.

5) Casa Valeria Boutique Hotel.

I am able to send / receive DM if you prefer. Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]I'm not a fan of DM.

I've stayed at Alicia Beach, and Casa Valeria, and recommend both. CV is a little more expensive and claim to restrict invited guests to one at a time, but rules in Sosua are never etched in stone. If you are a quiet considerate type YMMV.

Alicia Beach sometimes throws in breakfast and is the one I recommend most. For 3 days high season not much chance of negotiating a reduced rate, but always worth a try! Up by Europe Hotel there are a few local bars that have ladies in the evenings, and Europa Hotel is in that area.

Most chicas have melted away from the main drag due to the recent clamp down on bad public behavior, and ply their trade in the surrounding local bars in the evenings.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=AsianSeeker777;3039912]On a sad note no bunea w.

Hen you get sick go to a local hospital then croak, Well Any who this older gent from the states 78 years old that I've know for the past 6 years was a heavy hitter, meaning mucho legal age haiten chicas funny last year his birth day part he had a 4 some hehe, This older guy was a character, we all joked and called him the Sosua Santa Clause, chicas would aleays show up at his apartment looking for some peso his rule was 1500 pesos take it or leave it! Back story this guy owned an adult camp ground in wisconson, did preaty well camp ground was always booked with adult campers, but in the winter he would stay down here for 5 months, Poor guy had diabeatis had to take insuline daily, I spoke to himm Nov 11th I just arrived here yesterday and my taxi guy who works part time as asecurity guard said he got sick and died in the hospital, Rip sir! At least he had a good run! Feel bad for his family on the legistics of getting him back to the states carry on be safe sirs![/QUOTE]His name was Marvin and I knew him for 7+ years, quite the character. Indirectly he saved my sexual life. I met him one day at the old Midtown restaurant inside Hotel Las Palmeras. He proceeded to tell me that he had an IPP (Inflatable Penile Prosthesis) implant done and went into great detail about the surgery. I then spent the next few years researching the different types of IPP and the best doctors. As time went on my ability to get a full solid erection waned and when I was confident that I had done my homework I went under the knife. Second best decision of my life, this thing is amazing! Thank you Marvin and RIP.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3039969]Here's the thing, like you just said. Even the complainers brag their "roster is full" and can always get laid, (some even for free, LOL).

Like they want to be seen as members of some elite gang who can get their pussy, while telling others, Sosua is done like dinner![/QUOTE]Definitely not me. My roster is full but there's always room for one more and if I ever got a freebie I am pretty sure it would be costing me at least double LOL. The reason the roster is full has nothing to do with "game" just lots of years of stacked references and a rep for generosity (read gullibility LOL) and Sosua is definitely not done. I remember the years leading up to covid were pretty damned slow too. Next thing you know something changes and we're off to the races again.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3040006]His name was Marvin and I knew him for 7+ years, quite the character. Indirectly he saved my sexual life. I met him one day at the old Midtown restaurant inside Hotel Las Palmeras. He proceeded to tell me that he had an IPP (Inflatable Penile Prosthesis) implant done and went into great detail about the surgery. I then spent the next few years researching the different types of IPP and the best doctors. As time went on my ability to get a full solid erection waned and when I was confident that I had done my homework I went under the knife. Second best decision of my life, this thing is amazing! Thank you Marvin and RIP.[/QUOTE]My best buddy from Canada is a lifetime horndog, now in 80's, and he was also having trouble getting it up with his string of sugar babies. He can afford to spend a fortune on medical and cosmetic procedures and he's always on top of the latest treatments and enhancements. He went to a Texas hospital for a week to have, I believe, that same procedure.

Cost him a fortune by my standards, but he can afford it.

He's never been happier, and his ladies are too, according to the texts he shows me! He says it's a life changer! The miracles of modern science!

I've stayed natural, no pills and can still get it up, but can't pop on cue, in fact mostly never! But I can stay on the edge for hours, and It's a still a great rush! My doctor recently gave me a new pill for my heart tho, Bisopropolol, and I notice I'm walking around with a semi hard on these days, I can now easily find it when I take a piss, and no more pissing on the toilet seat. LOL.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3040006]His name was Marvin and I knew him for 7+ years, quite the character. Indirectly he saved my sexual life. I met him one day at the old Midtown restaurant inside Hotel Las Palmeras. He proceeded to tell me that he had an IPP (Inflatable Penile Prosthesis) implant done and went into great detail about the surgery. I then spent the next few years researching the different types of IPP and the best doctors. As time went on my ability to get a full solid erection waned and when I was confident that I had done my homework I went under the knife. Second best decision of my life, this thing is amazing! Thank you Marvin and RIP.[/QUOTE]Bingo. Yes Marvin,

[QUOTE=WGraves;3039992]Thank you so much taking time to respond. I did flip thru pages on the Hotels section and posted this ask with some specific location names in that group. Planning for a visit to Sousa in December, never been to DR and first timer but heard about it and seen few YouTube videos. Primary purpose is hobby and looking for ideal location to stay with near by action. Planning to fly in Puerto Plata Airport (POP) and take a cab. Reading this forum, I can sum up following locations seems to be the obvious choices. Please help me what would be ideal spot for a 2 or 3 nights stay. I don't need great wifi or very quiet room but looking to score some nice chicas. Below is what I could short list in no particular order..[/QUOTE]New Garden has always been good for me. Breakfast usually included. I haven't been there in a couple of years, though. Manu condos near the action, most, but not all allow guest. Always good to email in advance.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3040054]My best buddy from Canada is a lifetime horndog, now in 80's, and he was also having trouble getting it up with his string of sugar babies. He can afford to spend a fortune on medical and cosmetic procedures and he's always on top of the latest treatments and enhancements. He went to a Texas hospital for a week to have, I believe, that same procedure.

Cost him a fortune by my standards, but he can afford it.

He's never been happier, and his ladies are too, according to the texts he shows me! He says it's a life changer! The miracles of modern science!

I've stayed natural, no pills and can still get it up, but can't pop on cue, in fact mostly never! But I can stay on the edge for hours, and It's a still a great rush! My doctor recently gave me a new pill for my heart tho, Bisopropolol, and I notice I'm walking around with a semi hard on these days, I can now easily find it when I take a piss, and no more pissing on the toilet seat. LOL.[/QUOTE]Medicare covered every penny of my surgery. I was prepared to pay the $35,000. Usd out of pocket necessary though, worth every penny.

[QUOTE=Norbert61;3039945]I've been down for a couple weeks. There are definitely fewer chicas around and they are dressed more discretely but they are there. They were even hanging out on the sidewalk in front of Central. There were passport bros around but about 20% of what I would expect. I don't know what the long-term result of that will be. You can't just take 2 or 3 million dollars a week out of the system in a town like this and not expect impacts. To me it looks like things are ramping up but very slowly. My rotation of girls is unaffected by the crackdown and in fact new ones are actually pursuing me fairly aggressively. All in all the chica situation for me has been awesome but I am in the old gringo expat demographic. Price of drinks seems to be up a bit but the weather's great and the beach is awesome.[/QUOTE]I'm a big fan of the Alicia Beach Hotel. Quiet area and decent rooms. Excellent morning breakfast. Good security.

[QUOTE=George03;3040170]New Garden has always been good for me. Breakfast usually included. I haven't been there in a couple of years, though. Manu condos near the action, most, but not all allow guest. Always good to email in advance.[/QUOTE]I stayed in New Garden last month. I think its one of the best place to stay for someone first time in Sousa. Close to everything.

I'll be going back to Santo Domingo next week, my second time to the DR after my first foray at the end of October. I'm planning to stay through the holiday season and up to right before New Year's. Since I'll be there for almost 3 weeks this time, I'm thinking to get out of SD at some point and explore someplace else. Possibly Sosua.

How is it there for the hobby, around Christmas and New Year's? Both in Sosua specifically and in the DR in general? In Bogota it seems like many Pros take a break from working between the middle of December and the middle of January, so the action is sparser. Is it like that in Sosua and Santo Domingo too? Or business as usual? Or does the street / bar / club action move to online even more than it already is?

Any tips for enjoying Sosua during the last week or two of December, or a better place in the DR to check out at that time instead? Thank you in advance for any info and advice you might provide. Stay safe and keep having fun!

[QUOTE=George03;3040170]New Garden has always been good for me.......[/QUOTE]My first accommodation in Sosua and for many years after was the New Garden under Wilfred's management. Very pro customer. I liked it less after he left. Those were the best times in Sosua, good accommodation and hot women.

Just came back to the Su, was here in September, Man the beach has gone down hill, the Sosua Enterance trash they nocked down the 2 small casitas, they have started the new plazzas above the beach, I walked to the charimicos end same thing plaza above almost finished but beach level half AR knocked down piles of rubble, hardly any one 0 on the beach just a few old expats and the last remainf vendors holding on for dear life as the beach withers like a dried up grape vine bye bye beach, chicas no chicas, the only one that grab me was a bar girl with big tatted tits begging me to sit at the tabel to have a drink, not sure if the high seasons going to save any one, mabey busy with locals weekend only! I'm gonig to predick the bull dozers are going to nock down every casita in the near future, I'm hope I'm wrong!

Thanks for reporting current situation, I was planning to take a trip as a first timer next week even booked hotel (with no damage cancel options) but thinking if I should wait for some time to see where things go.

[QUOTE=AsianSeeker777;3040514]Just came back to the Su, was here in September, Man the beach has gone down hill, the Sosua Enterance trash they nocked down the 2 small casitas, they have started the new plazzas above the beach, I walked to the charimicos end same thing plaza above almost finished but beach level half AR knocked down piles of rubble, hardly any one 0 on the beach just a few old expats and the last remainf vendors holding on for dear life as the beach withers like a dried up grape vine bye bye beach, chicas no chicas, the only one that grab me was a bar girl with big tatted tits begging me to sit at the tabel to have a drink, not sure if the high seasons going to save any one, mabey busy with locals weekend only! I'm gonig to predick the bull dozers are going to nock down every casita in the near future, I'm hope I'm wrong![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AsianSeeker777;3040514]Just came back to the Su, was here in September, Man the beach has gone down hill, the Sosua Enterance trash they nocked down the 2 small casitas, they have started the new plazzas above the beach, I walked to the charimicos end same thing plaza above almost finished but beach level half AR knocked down piles of rubble, hardly any one 0 on the beach just a few old expats and the last remainf vendors holding on for dear life as the beach withers like a dried up grape vine bye bye beach, chicas no chicas, the only one that grab me was a bar girl with big tatted tits begging me to sit at the tabel to have a drink, not sure if the high seasons going to save any one, mabey busy with locals weekend only! I'm gonig to predick the bull dozers are going to nock down every casita in the near future, I'm hope I'm wrong![/QUOTE]I can't bring myself to go down there. I know it is going to make me upset- nevermind the "clean up the hookers / let the hookers be" discussion- the one thing the town has that's unique is that beach and they're fucking it up.

[QUOTE=AsianSeeker777;3040514]Just came back to the Su, was here in September, Man the beach has gone down hill, the Sosua Enterance trash they nocked down the 2 small casitas, they have started the new plazzas above the beach, I walked to the charimicos end same thing plaza above almost finished but beach level half AR knocked down piles of rubble, hardly any one 0 on the beach just a few old expats and the last remainf vendors holding on for dear life as the beach withers like a dried up grape vine bye bye beach, chicas no chicas, the only one that grab me was a bar girl with big tatted tits begging me to sit at the tabel to have a drink, not sure if the high seasons going to save any one, mabey busy with locals weekend only! I'm gonig to predick the bull dozers are going to nock down every casita in the near future, I'm hope I'm wrong![/QUOTE]Some of us saw this poison pill and reset coming years ago. Things got so ugly to the people in power that they decided to blow it up.

[QUOTE=Norbert61;3040698]I can't bring myself to go down there. I know it is going to make me upset- nevermind the "clean up the hookers / let the hookers be" discussion- the one thing the town has that's unique is that beach and they're fucking it up.[/QUOTE]Don't forget that other unique asset, our hobby is 100% legal here, so no third party, pimps or mamasans needed to mediate your deal, unless you need a lot of help getting laid in a brothel.

I've read some reports on here stating that Playa Sosua is in a terrible state right now. Can anyone tell me the status of Playa Alicia? I have my 3rd trip planned for February 6 - 11 and I'd really like to spend some time on the beach while I'm out there.

[QUOTE=AceBoogie;3041060]I've read some reports on here stating that Playa Sosua is in a terrible state right now. Can anyone tell me the status of Playa Alicia? I have my 3rd trip planned for February 6 - 11 and I'd really like to spend some time on the beach while I'm out there.[/QUOTE]Playa Alicia is unchanged and is relatively clean right now.

Mamasans are who guarantees great and consistent performance. If you look at 2 of the best spots, Brazil and Thailand are filled with mamasans location. There rules and policies filters over to the independent market. Actually I think Sosua lack of overseers was bringing the city down. Just about any chica was coming to Sosua with quick hustle money on their minds rather than a honest hustle to give customers satisfaction. Based on November posting Sosua is shot. The people still singing praises going there are mostly guys who falsely figure with less guys coming, more chicas for me LOL. Just my thoughts. I could be wrong.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3040822]Don't forget that other unique asset, our hobby is 100% legal here, so no third party, pimps or mamasans needed to mediate your deal, unless you need a lot of help getting laid in a brothel.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=AceBoogie;3041060]I've read some reports on here stating that Playa Sosua is in a terrible state right now. Can anyone tell me the status of Playa Alicia? I have my 3rd trip planned for February 6 - 11 and I'd really like to spend some time on the beach while I'm out there.[/QUOTE]The beach itself is fine, no changes whatsoever other than the natural shifts in sand. It's what is behind the beach that is in turmoil but if all you want to do is rent a chair and umbrella and sit on the beach and go swimming and have a cold beer you're fine.

Here's a look at the current situation on the caseta walk. Looks like early in the day, around 10 AM?

By the water the main beach is a world away well away from the "turmoil", and a great place to chill. It's clean, wide and well serviced by friendly locals who'll bring everything to your spot.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGS0QkoIMns[/URL]

If you want a little more luxury, and more formal restaurants, Cabarete is just 15 minutes away, also recommended.

In Sosua, you see what you choose to see!

[QUOTE=Blakman;3041167]Mamasans are who guarantees great and consistent performance. If you look at 2 of the best spots, Brazil and Thailand are filled with mamasans location. There rules and policies filters over to the independent market. Actually I think Sosua lack of overseers was bringing the city down.

.[/QUOTE]We had that back about 15-20 years ago when Sosua was good. Passions, CMP and other spots on the strip, as well as several spots in POP.

Well gents, Time to retire, its be one hellva ride, many chica take downs from fresh 18 yr old chicas right of the boat new to the game right up to grannys.

I started to come down in 2013 enen got to sample passions talent, even ranco tipico when AD ran it, one wild time I would at least go down every other month sray 7 to 14 days and as of latley stay 3 months during the winter time, been thru thick and thin mucho chicas a few GFs, , I was one of the top posters on the Defunct TMBTS too bad that's gone as a quote from Bob Hope Thanks for the Memories, Any who after a few medical set backs I've retired from Active mongering 2023 heart operation then now tounge cancer mabey from too much toto tasting hehe, I start radiation treatments this week, out look good, I pulled the trigger I tied the knot, just got back from Sosua I married the Hotel maid. Offical had a dominican offical preform the cerimonie, some leg work with the chica getting all the paper work in order was about $3000 that was for everthing reception at a small resterraunt in pourto platta, food drinks wedding cake photogropher I'm 65 chica 32 , I've know her for 5 years I figured how much time do I have left I went for it! But as we all know if married pussy dryes up a snap of a finger you can be ball deep in Dominican or hatian toto, peace out carry on, ill still be out and about and report back on any news worthy info!

[QUOTE=AsianSeeker777;3041366]Well gents, Time to retire, its be one hellva ride, many chica take downs from fresh 18 yr old chicas right of the boat new to the game right up to grannys.[/QUOTE]Good luck with everything brother.

[QUOTE=AsianSeeker777;3041366]Well gents, Time to retire, its be one hellva ride, many chica take downs from fresh 18 yr old chicas right of the boat new to the game right up to grannys.

I started to come down in 2013 enen got to sample passions talent, even ranco tipico when AD ran it, one wild time I would at least go down every other month sray 7 to 14 days and as of latley stay 3 months during the winter time, been thru thick and thin mucho chicas a few GFs, , I was one of the top posters on the Defunct TMBTS too bad that's gone as a quote from Bob Hope Thanks for the Memories, Any who after a few medical set backs I've retired from Active mongering 2023 heart operation then now tounge cancer mabey from too much toto tasting hehe, I start radiation treatments this week, out look good, I pulled the trigger I tied the knot, just got back from Sosua I married the Hotel maid. Offical had a dominican offical preform the cerimonie, some leg work with the chica getting all the paper work in order was about $3000 that was for everthing reception at a small resterraunt in pourto platta, food drinks wedding cake photogropher I'm 65 chica 32 , I've know her for 5 years I figured how much time do I have left I went for it! But as we all know if married pussy dryes up a snap of a finger you can be ball deep in Dominican or hatian toto, peace out carry on, ill still be out and about and report back on any news worthy info![/QUOTE]I wish for everything to work out well for you.....and the chica.

This was once one of the busiest threads on the forum now it's gone quiet. Makes me believe that the town isn't seeing the normal level of visitors. I'd love to know if the chica price gouging has stop. Wether the quality has truly picked up or if it's just the same chicas dressed better.

[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;3042641]This was once one of the busiest threads on the forum now it's gone quiet. Makes me believe that the town isn't seeing the normal level of visitors. I'd love to know if the chica price gouging has stop. Wether the quality has truly picked up or if it's just the same chicas dressed better.[/QUOTE]Maybe it's because there is little new to say.

We got visitors and regular returnees coming back for the season, and they are all managing to get well laid.

The usual suspects who don't like Sosua, seem to be staying away, and not clogging up the Forum with complaints.

And the bottom line most of us are happy with that, and are not interested in arguing incessantly about it!

[QUOTE=Oakie;3042729]Maybe it's because there is little new to say.

We got visitors and regular returnees coming back for the season, and they are all managing to get well laid.

The usual suspects who don't like Sosua, seem to be staying away, and not clogging up the Forum with complaints.

And the bottom line most of us are happy with that, and are not interested in arguing incessantly about it![/QUOTE]On one hand it is unfair to dump on the town but it's another to blindly champion the town I as an infrenquent visitor can speculate you can provide the answer Has the quality improved? Have prices risen or stayed the same or could a monger even an experienced one get a cheaper price?

Inquiring minds want to know.

One reason there was so much drama on this board was because of the lack of information and trip reports being posted. Sosua looks different for the experienced expat than the novice monger.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3042802]On one hand it is unfair to dump on the town but it's another to blindly champion the town I as an infrenquent visitor can speculate you can provide the answer Has the quality improved? Have prices risen or stayed the same or could a monger even an experienced one get a cheaper price?

Inquiring minds want to know.

One reason there was so much drama on this board was because of the lack of information and trip reports being posted.[/QUOTE]Exactly. People could use tips and other information instead of just saying there is pussy here and people like to come here. There is pussy pretty much everywhere that there are people. What is there to draw a monger to Sosua in particular versus Nagua or Rio San Juan or other Dominican beach towns, because there is surely pussy in those places as well.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3042802]On one hand [B]it is unfair to dump on the town but it's another to blindly champion the town[/B] I as an infrenquent visitor can speculate you can provide the answer Has the quality improved? Have prices risen or stayed the same or could a monger even an experienced one get a cheaper price?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[B]One reason there was so much drama on this board was because of the lack of information and trip reports being posted.[/B] Sosua looks different for the experienced expat than the novice monger.[/QUOTE]There are lots of reports here, mostly negative. So folks lose interest in arguing about Sosua's merits.

No. The reason for the drama, is posts like yours.

You say I'm "blindly championing the town", then you ask me for detailed info on the place! LOL.

A classic troll!

Like any answer I take time to give, is already discredited!

So why bother?

Too much time on your hands?

But for others out there with an open mind, I'll relate what I see here.

Generally speaking, numbers are down, but quality is up, in behavior and looks, due to the recent crack down by the "Taste Police". More normal looking chicas, and less freaks!

As for prices, as always, YMMV. What you need and what she wants. I don't do much negotiating theses days.

There are barrio prices for locals, ex-pat peso prices (or gifts in kind) for familiar faces, and the US dollar prices for newbie tourists.

The Chicas are often working both SD and Sosua, so I would refer you to the great reports in the SD Section by Tochka and Choco Bonito, as a rough guide to current prices. Michael1967 too, in the but I'd knock Michaels prices down by 20% to relate them to Sosua.

There's still a little nostalgia among chicas for the 4,000 to 5,000 peso quote in negotiations so your higher valued US dollars are a factor that should be lowering your price, including hotels, liquor etc.

But never talk USA Dollars. You're in the DR now!

Always negotiate in pesos, and save.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Oakie;3042938]There are lots of reports here, mostly negative. So folks lose interest in arguing about Sosua's merits.

No. The reason for the drama, is posts like yours.

You say I'm "blindly championing the town", then you ask me for detailed info on the place! LOL.

A classic troll!

Like any answer I take time to give, is already discredited!

So why bother?

Too much time on your hands?

But for others out there with an open mind, I'll relate what I see here.

Generally speaking, numbers are down, but quality is up, in behavior and looks, due to the recent crack down by the "Taste Police". More normal looking chicas, and less freaks!

As for prices, as always, YMMV. What you need and what she wants. I don't do much negotiating theses days.

There are barrio prices for locals, ex-pat peso prices (or gifts in kind) for familiar faces, and the US dollar prices for newbie tourists.

The Chicas are often working both SD and Sosua, so I would refer you to the great reports in the SD Section by Tochka and Choco Bonito, as a rough guide to current prices. Michael1967 too, in the but I'd knock Michaels prices down by 20% to relate them to Sosua.

There's still a little nostalgia among chicas for the 4,000 to 5,000 peso quote in negotiations so your higher valued US dollars are a factor that should be lowering your price, including hotels, liquor etc.

But never talk USA Dollars. You're in the DR now!

Always negotiate in pesos, and save.

Good luck![/QUOTE]I'll ignore the little shots especially since you did kinda answer the question in a way.

That's all I wanted.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

I am going to Colombia, but curious nothing on the Casino. Is it because the few guys traveling to Sosua are not the Casino type of guys, 60's and 70's that don't go there.

[QUOTE=Blakman;3043807]I am going to Colombia, but curious nothing on the Casino. Is it because the few guys traveling to Sosua are not the Casino type of guys, 60's and 70's that don't go there.[/QUOTE]The casinos in sosua are basic, very basic. I would just play blackjack to kill time until the club get more full with chcias.

[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;3042641]This was once one of the busiest threads on the forum now it's gone quiet.[/QUOTE]The mission now is to ruin Medellin and Cartagena. You won't hear much about Sosua.

There is no talk about if the playa chiquita casino has been affected or not by the changes / police presence. Remember someone made reference of 400 girls showing up at the casino / nightclub and hanging in the casino hallways. I am trying to see if that's still the case. Is it still doable to see lots of girls there.

[QUOTE=Blakman;3043807]I am going to Colombia, but curious nothing on the Casino. Is it because the few guys traveling to Sosua are not the Casino type of guys, 60's and 70's that don't go there.[/QUOTE]

Usually I spend Christmas with GF and her relatives. This year a death in the family put that out of the question, so stayed in town.

Had occasion to go down town to visit old friends Christmas Eve and Christmas day.

Wednesday was partyville, bars full and hopping. Chicas everywhere. Tourists in town! Like old times.

Thursday the place was dead, chicas gone, bars mostly empty and some closed. Rumba had a few guys watching football and basketball, but no chicas. Nobody on the street. Didn't get up near New Garden and Baylees, so I don't know! So Christmas Day everybody is with friends and family partying at home. Except for a couple of skanks in dark doorways, not one offer!

So you could have two completely different reports on Sosua in just 2 days!

Sosua is like that. Timing. Season, day of week, holidays etc. For an ex-pat, Sosua really does have two lives!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;3044066]The mission now is to ruin Medellin and Cartagena. You won't hear much about Sosua.[/QUOTE]Your behind a bit, that mission has already been accomplished.

Is it safe? I'm thinking about going, I've never been there. It's closer to me compared to going to Tijuana, Mexico. And I heard it's cheaper in Sosua? What are the rates typically? I'm looking for 1-2 hour sessions, 2 pops required, no rushed service. Are the girls there transactional and all business? That's mainly what I don't like about Tijuana Mexico, almost every girl is transactional. At first it was whatever because it was a novel experience and I've never been there, but based on those interactions I wouldn't go back to Tijuana.

I'm wondering if Sosua girls will be more submissive, basically I want them to get a beverage with me at the bar, and then come back with me to my hotel. Once in the hotel I basically want to guide them like good girls, have them get on my bed, get on their knees, start sucking me passionately, make sure they are doing nice pace, good amount of suction and stroking, etc etc, before I tell them to get on the bed and turn around so I can see their big butt and stick it in for doggy style.

And more importantly how safe is Sosua? Is it crazy like Colombia where almost every girl is a criminal? Thank you for the intel in advance.

Before the raids and focusing on the women only. I'll say that it was straight the white ones typically have Golden Pussy Syndrome. Thus, there where guy's stupid enough to pay up $250 for a quickie only to prove themselves to those girls. There were thieves there rushed services was common. 1 hour is never guaranteed and 2 hours means you're wasting your money bro. Overnight prices only involves 1 pop with cuddling up to 6 am in the morning. The women were very attractive in my opinion what was interesting about this country the girls will get the police on you if you refuse to pay them more and there's absolutely nothing you could do to get yourself out of that situation because the police is basically broke in that country. I had good times there you just have to be cautious if a woman doesn't have a ID and you suspects she under age leave her ass alone. Her family will show up and you'll be extorted for thousands of dollars! It's either that or deal with the police and only a fool will do that!

Many good times I even had BBFS there! I'm not interested in that type of service anymore I wished it was back to normal so a younger generation can experience it. Now reports state that everything is low key the women are more than likely to work for their money now than bull shit you out of it.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3045739]Is it safe? I'm thinking about going, I've never been there. It's closer to me compared to going to Tijuana, Mexico. And I heard it's cheaper in Sosua? What are the rates typically? I'm looking for 1-2 hour sessions, 2 pops required, no rushed service. Are the girls there transactional and all business? That's mainly what I don't like about Tijuana Mexico, almost every girl is transactional. At first it was whatever because it was a novel experience and I've never been there, but based on those interactions I wouldn't go back to Tijuana.

I'm wondering if Sosua girls will be more submissive, basically I want them to get a beverage with me at the bar, and then come back with me to my hotel. Once in the hotel I basically want to guide them like good girls, have them get on my bed, get on their knees, start sucking me passionately, make sure they are doing nice pace, good amount of suction and stroking, etc etc, before I tell them to get on the bed and turn around so I can see their big butt and stick it in for doggy style..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3046073]Before the raids and focusing on the women only. I'll say that it was straight the white ones typically have Golden Pussy Syndrome. Thus, there where guy's stupid enough to pay up $250 for a quickie only to prove themselves to those girls. There were thieves there rushed services was common. 1 hour is never guaranteed and 2 hours means you're wasting your money bro. Overnight prices only involves 1 pop with cuddling up to 6 am in the morning. The women were very attractive in my opinion what was interesting about this country the girls will get the police on you if you refuse to pay them more and there's absolutely nothing you could do to get yourself out of that situation because the police is basically broke in that country. I had good times there you just have to be cautious if a woman doesn't have a ID and you suspects she under age leave her ass alone. Her family will show up and you'll be extorted for thousands of dollars! It's either that or deal with the police and only a fool will do that!.[/QUOTE]Interesting LOL.

Yeah, I'll still swing by Sosua and check it out, I've never been. Have been to Tijuana Mexico and Montreal. Tijuana the area is too dangerous for my liking and the service sucks. Basically high volume factory line crap. You pay $120 usd for 20 minutes of service, it's lame. Montreal is okay, but it's technically illegal for the buyer there yet legal for the seller. So it's not really a conducive long term destination. The variety is less there. At least Hong Kong in Tijuana has tons of variety, many different girls to select from. HK still sucks though, for reasons I mentioned.

So yeah I'll see how Sosua compares. I must admit that I'm very picky. If I can't find a girlfriend by the first or second day that I'm there, then I probably will never come back. And she would have to be someone who has a very attractive body, super nice curves, and also she has to be a girl who listens and will actually do what I want and follow my lead. If I can't get both of those in one girl while I'm there then I'm pretty much checked out of the place.

I know that hot girls with BBLs and stuff are almost always cold and transactional, trying to be all business and annoying. If that's how those girls are in Sosua then consider me out. I guess I'll end up seeing for myself how things are down there.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3046260]Interesting LOL.

Yeah, I'll still swing by Sosua and check it out, I've never been. Have been to Tijuana Mexico . Tijuana the area is too dangerous for my liking and the service sucks. Basically high volume factory line crap. You pay $120 usd for 20 minutes of service, it's lame. The variety is less there. At least Hong Kong in Tijuana has tons of variety, many different girls to select from. HK still sucks though, for reasons I mentioned.

So yeah I'll see how Sosua compares. I must admit that I'm very picky. If I can't find a girlfriend by the first or second day that I'm there, then I probably will never come back. And she would have to be someone who has a very attractive body, super nice curves, and also she has to be a girl who listens and will actually do what I want and follow my lead. If I can't get both of those in one girl while I'm there then I'm pretty much checked out of the place..[/QUOTE]Sosua is a horrible place to go. For one it will be no different than Tijuana other than the fact that the chicks in Sosua are freelancers and not all in one place. There service sucks and will be about the same price. They will be begging for you to cum five minutes after you start. They will threaten to call the police if you don't give them more money than agreed to.

With that said you never know so let us know how you like it.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3046260]And she would have to be someone who has a very attractive body, super nice curves, and also she has to be a girl who listens and will actually do what I want and follow my lead.[/QUOTE]Best to save yourself some money and time and not even go.

[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;3046410]Sosua is a horrible place to go. For one it will be no different than Tijuana other than the fact that the chicks in Sosua are freelancers and not all in one place. There service sucks and will be about the same price. They will be begging for you to cum five minutes after you start. They will threaten to call the police if you don't give them more money than agreed to.

With that said you never know so let us know how you like it.[/QUOTE]Haha sure. Would be interested to see what others say on the topic.

There aren't many places to go by the way, that are close to the US. You've basically got South America, the Caribbean, and Canada LOL. Not a lot of options.

[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;3046410]Sosua is a horrible place to go. For one it will be no different than Tijuana other than the fact that the chicks in Sosua are freelancers and not all in one place. There service sucks and will be about the same price. They will be begging for you to cum five minutes after you start. They will threaten to call the police if you don't give them more money than agreed to.

With that said you never know so let us know how you like it.[/QUOTE]You don't know how to pick your chicas. I've lived in and / or traveled to Sosua for over 20 years and have banged dozens upon dozens of chicas there and though I have had my share of bad performances I've never once had a chica ask for my leche 5 minutes in and certainly never had a chica threaten to call the cops on me.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3046423]Haha sure. Would be interested to see what others say on the topic.

There aren't many places to go by the way, that are close to the US. You've basically got South America, the Caribbean, and Canada LOL. Not a lot of options.[/QUOTE]For what it's worth, It's 18 years since I first set foot in Sosua, and It's been my main home for the last 10.

I don't remember how many chicas I've banged down here, but aside from one I picked off the street who tried to upsell me back in the room years ago, never been ripped off! (400 pesos and 15 minutes later she was gone.). Sosua has the weather, beaches, a wide range of restaurants, friendly people, and it's very safe if you are a seasoned traveler. Because prostitution is legal and common, it is monger friendly. Guys with local girls in bars and restaurants are welcomed, and most hotels allow you to bring in girls as long as they have ID.

You mentioned safety. I've traveled through most major cities in the U. K, Canada, Mexico, the USA And Europe, and Sosua is safer than most. The cops got a bad rep during the major clean up of the strip, when they used the militia on the strip and the beach, but they are now back to normal, which is a couples of cops on foot who's prime job is to keep the tourists safe, to keep the money rolling in to the businesses in town.

Because prostitution is legal you are not restricted to the hard core chicas that some folks have problems with, or street hustlers offering to take you to god knows where! LOL. Where the chicas are at is mostly the bars and restaurants and you are free to meet chicas of all shapes, sizes, colors, and attitude, from timid newbies who can't speak English, to hard core loud spandex mommas.

I don't bother with the loud, aggressive, in your face chicas but they have their clients, those who have ice cold wives back home, who tell they have been blown away by the oral skills of some of them LOL. The nice thing is, for the price of a drink you can interview them before you pull the trigger. Choose wisely!

There's so many variable that prices can vary, but most guys I meet every day feel they get good value here. But time of day, day of week and time of year makes a difference. Sosua is busiest from December to the end of March, so it really is a short season here! Also YMMV based on Looks, attitude, hygiene (yours and hers) potential of repeat business will be a factor, but generally speaking I'd say the happy range will be from 3,500 to 6500.

How you roll and your attitude is the key! Sosua like life, is a mirror.

Good luck!

I co-sign with most of what he says. And again the ones who mainly do that shit are the white ones they are often referred to as light skins in the DR. There's are some who don't do that shit and again there are plenty who those that. You just got to know which ones to deal with when it comes to them. I think the game is fuck in Latin America period then again on the continent of Africa it's fuck up too. Whenever you got troves of men flooding cyber space, the cities in desperation with looking for a particular ethnic group of women it inflates there ego. I know in the US most Latina women have a terrible reputation for service, when people visit Latin America the service is also labeled terrible too. But you got guys who loves them western Union them money willing to pay stupid prices for that experience with them. Don't think about visiting Cuba that place is leche papi leche heaven or should I say they rush the hell out of you there too and try to ask for more fucking money also. You just got to know who you're dealing with in hindsight and don't go for the first pretty thing that smiles in your face. Hell ask some guys about the woman and see if she has a bad reputation or a good reputation and I mean ask a fellow trick not some Dominican hustler on the block.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3046423]Haha sure. Would be interested to see what others say on the topic.

There aren't many places to go by the way, that are close to the US. You've basically got South America, the Caribbean, and Canada LOL. Not a lot of options.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for the common sense response. What are some of the decent bars / restaurants to hang out during day and evening hours, some names I saw here are - Rhumba, Bailes, European bar etc.,. I chickened out at the last hour in December, but definitely want to experience it for myself soon.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3046517]For what it's worth, It's 18 years since I first set foot in Sosua, and It's been my main home for the last 10.

I don't remember how many chicas I've banged down here, but aside from one I picked off the street who tried to upsell me back in the room years ago, never been ripped off! (400 pesos and 15 minutes later she was gone.). Sosua has the weather, beaches, a wide range of restaurants, friendly people, and it's very safe if you are a seasoned traveler. Because prostitution is legal and common, it is monger friendly. Guys with local girls in bars and restaurants are welcomed, and most hotels allow you to bring in girls as long as they have ID.

You mentioned safety. I've traveled through most major cities in the U. K, Canada, Mexico, the USA And Europe, and Sosua is safer than most. The cops got a bad rep during the major clean up of the strip, when they used the militia on the strip and the beach, but they are now back to normal, which is a couples of cops on foot who's prime job is to keep the tourists safe, to keep the money rolling in to the businesses in town.

Because prostitution is legal you are not restricted to the hard core chicas that some folks have problems with, or street hustlers offering to take you to god knows where! LOL. Where the chicas are at is mostly the bars and restaurants and you are free to meet chicas of all shapes, sizes, colors, and attitude, from timid newbies who can't speak English, to hard core loud spandex mommas.

I don't bother with the loud, aggressive, in your face chicas but they have their clients, those who have ice cold wives back home, who tell they have been blown away by the oral skills of some of them LOL. The nice thing is, for the price of a drink you can interview them before you pull the trigger. Choose wisely!

There's so many variable that prices can vary, but most guys I meet every day feel they get good value here. But time of day, day of week and time of year makes a difference. Sosua is busiest from December to the end of March, so it really is a short season here! Also YMMV based on Looks, attitude, hygiene (yours and hers) potential of repeat business will be a factor, but generally speaking I'd say the happy range will be from 3,500 to 6500.

How you roll and your attitude is the key! Sosua like life, is a mirror.

Good luck![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Oakie;3046517]For what it's worth, It's 18 years since I first set foot in Sosua, and It's been my main home for the last 10.

I don't remember how many chicas I've banged down here, but aside from one I picked off the street who tried to upsell me back in the room years ago, never been ripped off! (400 pesos and 15 minutes later she was gone.). Sosua has the weather, beaches, a wide range of restaurants, friendly people, and it's very safe if you are a seasoned traveler. Because prostitution is legal and common, it is monger friendly. Guys with local girls in bars and restaurants are welcomed, and most hotels allow you to bring in girls as long as they have ID.

You mentioned safety. I've traveled through most major cities in the U. K, Canada, Mexico, the USA And Europe, and Sosua is safer than most. The cops got a bad rep during the major clean up of the strip, when they used the militia on the strip and the beach, but they are now back to normal, which is a couples of cops on foot who's prime job is to keep the tourists safe, to keep the money rolling in to the businesses in town.[/QUOTE]Gotcha.

Yeah I'll check it out. Will try to write a report when I get back, no guarantees though.

I just returned from the DR yesterday. During the trip, I stopped by Sosua and visited with some individuals from former visits. Sosua is a remnant of its former self.

1. The beach vendors moved further down the beach for the most part.

2. There is a general lack of available women, if you visit Sosua for the women.

3. I witnessed two girls walking down the street with two gringos and the police detained the girls.

4. The rental rates for AirBnB have decreased likely due in part to the changes.

I spoke with one of the vendors and he explained the changes in concise and reflective ways. He said:

1. Some large investors are trying to turn the area into an exclusive resort type of atmosphere. Money talks.

2. Dominicans predict large investors building upscale places will attract well-mannered wealthy visitors who spend far more money that mongers.

3. Though prostitution is legal, many Dominicans don't appreciate the "in your face" atmosphere that dominated Sosua.

4. The government (local and federal) authorities did not appreciate the constant videos posted online concerning the area. It made the area look bad.

5. Sosua seemed to draw extremely budget-minded, less discrete, and many times perceived lower-class, individuals who frequently acted out in inappropriate ways when visiting Sosua.

6. Instead of enjoying the Dominican culture, many visitors felt the need to import an inner-city vibe. This vibe attracted certain types of Dominican women who don't typify most Dominican culture.

7. Many visitors didn't change unwanted behaviors after constant governmental interventions, so the government took extreme measures.

During the trip, I visited Black Beards. It was more active than Sosua for women. That speaks volumes.

[QUOTE=WGraves;3046623]Thank you for the common sense response. What are some of the decent bars / restaurants to hang out during day and evening hours, some names I saw here are - Rhumba, Bailes, European bar etc.,. I chickened out at the last hour in December, but definitely want to experience it for myself soon.[/QUOTE]The bars you mention are all on the 2 block "stroll" where mongers hang out, including Bar Central and smaller bars open to the sidewalk, There they exchange experiences, like fishermen, that range from pissing match stories of cheap sex, to complaints about the locals, while keeping a weather eye open for doable chicas.

A lot of what their fellow mongers tell them about rip offs, finds it way here. Third hand info!

Thing is they base their stories on the happenings on the strip, the public beach, and rarely interact with the average Dominican girls who might be willing make a few bucks, but wouldn't be seen dead downtown. There's definitely a pecking order of "class" among DR women. In Baylee's alone you'll find more available chicas in one day / night than you'll see in Blackbeards in a month, and you won't have to wait till the hot one, can fit you in, LOL.

The average young lady blends into the background, and makes contacts through her place of work, sales girl, bartender, server etc. The amateurs / newbies get their training wheels and hang out at their local colmado off the strip, and you'll see them out on "Domingo Sociale" chatting with savvy vets who enjoy drinking and sharing cheap beer on the sidewalk in plastic chairs in front of giant AMPS that the locals pull out for impromptu ad hoc parties. Easily found, just by listening for loud Dominican music LOL.

The locals are friendly and accepting of strangers to an extent that is rare in this world, provided you show a little respect for the country you are a guest in.

More than one monger who comes in loud, with an ego and superior attitude, expecting them all be "thieves, hustlers, and rip off merchants" gets his ass burned and handed back to him.

From my experience those are the ones that fill ISG with complaints about the place, but are "experts" on top of every happening in Sosua. They keep coming back to the place, I don't know why, but they do. I think they got their asses burned and can't let it go! LOL.

It's certainly not fun to be outwitted by a pro "thief, hustler, and rip off merchant".

The bars off the strip tend to cater more to regulars, and there's more of the family attitude of a neighborhood bar, than a sex emporium, you're behaviour is watched here, which goes restrict the weekend warrior and infrequent visitor who by definition never has the time to blend in and be taken seriously by the regular customers and staff!

And that is a legitimate monger complaint.

My purpose from day one was to blend in and be part of the local scene, and it worked for me!

[QUOTE=WanderingMan;3046688]I just returned from the DR yesterday. During the trip, I stopped by Sosua and visited with some individuals from former visits. Sosua is a remnant of its former self.

1. The beach vendors moved further down the beach for the most part.

2. There is a general lack of available women, if you visit Sosua for the women.

3. I witnessed two girls walking down the street with two gringos and the police detained the girls.

4. The rental rates for AirBnB have decreased likely due in part to the changes.

I spoke with one of the vendors and he explained the changes in concise and reflective ways. He said:

1. Some large investors are trying to turn the area into an exclusive resort type of atmosphere. Money talks..[/QUOTE]Can't argue with most of that!

Covers a lot of the complaints.

Did you find anything good about Sosua on your trip?

[QUOTE=WanderingMan;3046688]I just returned from the DR yesterday. During the trip, I stopped by Sosua and visited with some individuals from former visits. Sosua is a remnant of its former self.

1. The beach vendors moved further down the beach for the most part.

2. There is a general lack of available women, if you visit Sosua for the women.

3. I witnessed two girls walking down the street with two gringos and the police detained the girls.

4. The rental rates for AirBnB have decreased likely due in part to the changes.

I spoke with one of the vendors and he explained the changes in concise and reflective ways. He said:[/QUOTE]So Sosua is dead then? Time to pack the bags and not go there?

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3046721]So Sosua is dead then? Time to pack the bags and not go there?[/QUOTE]I'm just going to give my my view based on my time there. People say it doesn't matter that Sosua is effectively closed, because it's the DR. You can get it there in most places but more discreetly. Well I went to Punta Cana and I couldn't find a thing. Apparently the prices were triple those in Sosua there. There is always Santo Domingo, but I found the place not safe. Sosua was like a paradise. Was.

If I go back there, I guess I will try to hook up with a few chicas whom I have their numbers, but I bet the prices will be more. Less competition. Perhaps it will all be through online contacts, like Ireland for example, the forum seems to only talk about escort agency chicks. That is sad.

If you look at the DR on the world rankings for living costs, it has got cheaper. Is that to do with a falling peso? Has their economy tanked since this suicidal policy to clean Sosua up?

I do however blame the youtube cam creeps for drawing attention to it and spoiling it for everyone.

[QUOTE=Fosi76;3046804]There is always Santo Domingo, but I found the place not safe.[/QUOTE]How? What happened to you or what did you see happen to someone else?

You know I'm that country some services are based upon the value of the dollar when the dollar strengthens they increase what you pay in pesos. When it weakens you pay less in pesos perfect example. A shave at the barber shop in ZC was 500 pesos and that's what everyone pays. 16 months prior it was 250 pesos. I can use the same logic for casa Teresa and some hotels. Most Dominicans still complain about the high cost of living and ready to get the fuck out of that country.

[QUOTE=Fosi76;3046804]I'm just going to give my my view based on my time there. People say it doesn't matter that Sosua is effectively closed, because it's the DR. You can get it there in most places but more discreetly. Well I went to Punta Cana and I couldn't find a thing. Apparently the prices were triple those in Sosua there. There is always Santo Domingo, but I found the place not safe. Sosua was like a paradise. Was.

If I go back there, I guess I will try to hook up with a few chicas whom I have their numbers, but I bet the prices will be more. Less competition. Perhaps it will all be through online contacts, like Ireland for example, the forum seems to only talk about escort agency chicks. That is sad.

If you look at the DR on the world rankings for living costs, it has got cheaper. Is that to do with a falling peso? Has their economy tanked since this suicidal policy to clean Sosua up?

I do however blame the youtube cam creeps for drawing attention to it and spoiling it for everyone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Oakie;3046708]Did you find anything good about Sosua on your trip?[/QUOTE]I met a local civilian woman in Puerto Plata at a restaurant who went home with me for the night. She was very pleasant. If I return, I will find a place in Puerto Plata and contact her. Flip Flops served a decent breakfast at a decent cost. The license plates on the walls from all over the US proved interesting.

Well, I guess the situation is much more complicated and can't really be explained directly.

I'm not sure if Sosua is dead as some people are making it out to be, or if it's still acceptable.

Guess the only way to find out is for me to go there and see for myself.

I suspect the main issue is that there is no more Disneyland carnival style in Sosua where there are 50-100 girls all lined up on the street with music blasting everywhere and you get your pick from the entire bunch. It looks like that situation is entirely gone in Sosua. If that's the case, that doesn't bother me as much. I'm not really looking for "Disneyland" for adults.

My concern is whether the hot girls in the area are totally gone. Meaning you just will never see them walking the beach or the streets anymore because they've just abandoned the town completely. Nor will you see them on Friday or Saturday nights because again, everyone has just abandoned the place completely. Going to Sosua and finding out all the hot girls have left and won't be there on any weekends would really suck LOL.

I think the reality is that it's very variable. One night you may see the hotties out in the bar or by the beach during the day. And another night it will be completely dead with hardly any attractive girls present. Super variable, but not 100% consistent dead.

I haven't booked my trip yet, but I think I will soon. Will see what happens.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3046993][b]I think the reality is[/b] that it's very variable. One night you may see the hotties out in the bar or by the beach during the day. And another night it will be completely dead with hardly any attractive girls present. Super variable, but not 100% consistent dead.[/QUOTE]How did you come up with this thought? What is it based on?

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3046993]Well, I guess the situation is much more complicated and can't really be explained directly.

I'm not sure if Sosua is dead as some people are making it out to be, or if it's still acceptable.

Guess the only way to find out is for me to go there and see for myself.

I suspect the main issue is that there is no more Disneyland carnival style in Sosua where there are 50-100 girls all lined up on the street with music blasting everywhere and you get your pick from the entire bunch. It looks like that situation is entirely gone in Sosua. If that's the case, that doesn't bother me as much. I'm not really looking for "Disneyland" for adults.

My concern is whether the hot girls in the area are totally gone. Meaning you just will never see them walking the beach or the streets anymore because they've just abandoned the town completely. Nor will you see them on Friday or Saturday nights because again, everyone has just abandoned the place completely. Going to Sosua and finding out all the hot girls have left and won't be there on any weekends would really suck LOL.

I think the reality is that it's very variable. One night you may see the hotties out in the bar or by the beach during the day. And another night it will be completely dead with hardly any attractive girls present. Super variable, but not 100% consistent dead.

I haven't booked my trip yet, but I think I will soon. Will see what happens.[/QUOTE]When I began to travel at sosua a few decade ago its was simple, all bar on pedro clisante was point and clik. Full of girl, all the girls was getting insinde the city at the same average hour at the evening. It was a non stop line of girls arriving by moto concho. The last time a been there it was nothing comparable. It was 10 years ago so it might been back like it was but the crack down of the 2 best place: rumba and classico killed the place. All other owner was scared to be arrested so it was a lot harder to find cutes girls.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3046993]Well, I guess the situation is much more complicated and can't really be explained directly.

I'm not sure if Sosua is dead as some people are making it out to be, or if it's still acceptable.

Guess the only way to find out is for me to go there and see for myself.

I suspect the main issue is that there is no more Disneyland carnival style in Sosua where there are 50-100 girls all lined up on the street with music blasting everywhere and you get your pick from the entire bunch. It looks like that situation is entirely gone in Sosua. If that's the case, that doesn't bother me as much. I'm not really looking for "Disneyland" for adults.

My concern is whether the hot girls in the area are totally gone. Meaning you just will never see them walking the beach or the streets anymore because they've just abandoned the town completely. Nor will you see them on Friday or Saturday nights because again, everyone has just abandoned the place completely. Going to Sosua and finding out all the hot girls have left and won't be there on any weekends would really suck LOL.

I think the reality is that it's very variable. One night you may see the hotties out in the bar or by the beach during the day. And another night it will be completely dead with hardly any attractive girls present. Super variable, but not 100% consistent dead.

I haven't booked my trip yet, but I think I will soon. Will see what happens.[/QUOTE]Go to Bar Central after 10:00 pm and then after they close go to Copacabana and you will have a good shot at hooking up with a decent looking chica. Sosua requires some patience these days to find a hot chica but they are there. Bailees also but they will want top dollar.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3047041]Go to Bar Central after 10:00 pm and then after they close go to Copacabana and you will have a good shot at hooking up with a decent looking chica. Sosua requires some patience these days to find a hot chica but they are there. Bailees also but they will want top dollar.[/QUOTE]Has something changed Bar Central had the worst Haitian chicks every there only getting customers because the guys who pick them fall into the anything black is attractive. Copacabana maybe it different now but even in the hey day where the town was packed with chicks this wasn't were you would pick up a high chick. Bailees maybe but heard it was different now. When were you last there in truth it's been a minute since I've been.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3046993]Well, I guess the situation is much more complicated and can't really be explained directly.

I'm not sure if Sosua is dead as some people are making it out to be, or if it's still acceptable.

Guess the only way to find out is for me to go there and see for myself.

I suspect the main issue is that there is no more Disneyland carnival style in Sosua where there are 50-100 girls all lined up on the street with music blasting everywhere and you get your pick from the entire bunch. It looks like that situation is entirely gone in Sosua. If that's the case, that doesn't bother me as much. I'm not really looking for "Disneyland" for adults..[/QUOTE]It's actually not that complicated.

First you have to forget about "the good old days". LOL.

Nothing is what is was 10 -15 years ago, Even me and you, or any of the other monger locations, according to posters on ISG. Even Pattaya which is often promoted here on this thread, by Sosua haters.

Even the vaunted point and click died 10 years ago. Since the spandex queens took over the strip, a point and click got you no real choice, because the hot ones left the strip as soon as they got a new Iphone. They are all on line now!

I keep hammering away at the fact that prostitution is legal here.

That's because it frees up the chicas to operate freelance anywhere they want, and they don't need to be put on show, with 30 other bored looking chics, in some organized quasi-brothel emporium on display like fish on a supermarket fish counter, where they have lady drink quotas and house set bar fines. That whole deal would depress me, as it takes away a lot of the natural male-female chemistry interaction, like meeting a chica in a bar or on the beach and checking each other out, without somebody watching her time sheet and how good she is at selling booze to the hordes of tourists that flood the place.

There may be freelancers, but there's a reason most sex is sold in Pattaya by clone 'dancers', out of emporiums, just like nail polish in a Chinese dollar store. Lot's of choice if you like nail polish! The problem with point and click, especially if you don't speak the language, leaves you to find out if she's compatible back in your room, when it may be too late!

I have a laugh at guys who insist they never pay in advance, but what are lady drinks and bar fines? You've paid for good chunk of the sex already and there's no chance of getting your money back if she's a dud.

It admit I'm biased, because I prefer the Latino culture and looks. Every size and shape and color of the rainbow. That combination of dazzling white smile and smooth chocolate skin still gets me going, but I digress.

No I'm a confirmed Latina lover, who likes to get my dates like I used to, by chatting and flirting and seeing if my dick is growing!

The "chat" preview can tell you a lot. If she's willing to spend a little time with you off the clock, it's a good sign she doesn't find you creepy or she's looking for repeat business, and maybe less chance she is already full of 'sloppy seconds'. She may only be out looking for one good score.

It's a minority view, I know, but I'm not here to convert anybody except to say if anybody gets what I'm talking about, you can have a good time here.

Nobody deported the beautiful chicas of DR they are still there, they just broke up the freak show, is all.

[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;3047046]Bar Central had the worst Haitian chicks every there only getting customers because the guys who pick them fall into the anything black is attractive. [/QUOTE]I noticed the same thing.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3047074]I noticed the same thing.[/QUOTE]Noticed this too, and also in Colombia.

[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3047080]Noticed this too, and also in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Me too!

Bar Central attracts Haitian hookers, and mongers who like Haitian hookers.

Some crazy shit going on down here fer sure!

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3046993]Well, I guess the situation is much more complicated and can't really be explained directly.

I'm not sure if Sosua is dead as some people are making it out to be, or if it's still acceptable.

Guess the only way to find out is for me to go there and see for myself.

I suspect the main issue is that there is no more Disneyland carnival style in Sosua where there are 50-100 girls all lined up on the street with music blasting everywhere and you get your pick from the entire bunch. It looks like that situation is entirely gone in Sosua. If that's the case, that doesn't bother me as much. I'm not really looking for "Disneyland" for adults.

My concern is whether the hot girls in the area are totally gone. Meaning you just will never see them walking the beach or the streets anymore because they've just abandoned the town completely. Nor will you see them on Friday or Saturday nights because again, everyone has just abandoned the place completely. Going to Sosua and finding out all the hot girls have left and won't be there on any weekends would really suck LOL.

I think the reality is that it's very variable. One night you may see the hotties out in the bar or by the beach during the day. And another night it will be completely dead with hardly any attractive girls present. Super variable, but not 100% consistent dead.

I haven't booked my trip yet, but I think I will soon. Will see what happens.[/QUOTE]Sosua may not be what it was before the crackdown, but it's still a paradise. There's no hustle and bustle of a city, the beautiful water and a sandy beach is right there, and the locals are friendly. First and foremost on this board is don't listen to anything Travelingman3 says. That loser keeps posting shit on here like a cancer relapse. But, that's what you can expect from guys who go to Pattaya, where the girls look like little boys. Listen to what Oakie posts. He actually lives there and knows what he's talking about. My trips have always been great to Fantasy Island. If you like a beautiful juicy ass with a cute smile, you'll like Sosua. My latest memory is hanging on the beach with a beautiful Haitiana (which she wanted to do on her own), going in the water with her, having a great time, drinking some rum, and then wild sex at night. It's all in your mindset. Take it slow and take it all in.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3047008]How did you come up with this thought? What is it based on?[/QUOTE]Just based on what I've seen and experienced. If I go to the best strip club in my city in the US on a Friday or Saturday night, I might see 1 turbo hottie out of like 12-15 working girls. If I go next week, I'll see 0 turbo hotties. The week after that, zero. The week after that, 1 turbo hottie. Etc.

So the point is that the turbos do still go there, which is the most important part. I suspect that is the same case in Sosua.

[QUOTE=IronQuinn;3047156]Sosua may not be what it was before the crackdown, but it's still a paradise. There's no hustle and bustle of a city, the beautiful water and a sandy beach is right there, and the locals are friendly. First and foremost on this board is don't listen to anything Travelingman3 says. That loser keeps posting shit on here like a cancer relapse. But, that's what you can expect from guys who go to Pattaya, where the girls look like little boys. Listen to what Oakie posts. He actually lives there and knows what he's talking about. My trips have always been great to Fantasy Island. If you like a beautiful juicy ass with a cute smile, you'll like Sosua. My latest memory is hanging on the beach with a beautiful Haitiana (which she wanted to do on her own), going in the water with her, having a great time, drinking some rum, and then wild sex at night. It's all in your mindset. Take it slow and take it all in.[/QUOTE]Gotcha. Sounds good.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3047180]Just based on what I've seen and experienced. If I go to the best strip club in my city in the US on a Friday or Saturday night, I might see 1 turbo hottie out of like 12-15 working girls. If I go next week, I'll see 0 turbo hotties. The week after that, zero. The week after that, 1 turbo hottie. Etc.

So the point is that the turbos do still go there, which is the most important part. I suspect that is the same case in Sosua.

Gotcha. Sounds good.[/QUOTE]Probably, but the average ask like 6000 now. In sosua I am not sure anymnore, but last time I been in DR even the fat one was asking 6000 dop. 100 dollards for a girls who is not even near 8 there is 0 chance I fall for that.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3047070]It's actually not that complicated.

First you have to forget about "the good old days". LOL.

Nothing is what is was 10 -15 years ago, Even me and you, or any of the other monger locations, according to posters on ISG. Even Pattaya which is often promoted here on this thread, by Sosua haters.

Even the vaunted point and click died 10 years ago. Since the spandex queens took over the strip, a point and click got you no real choice, because the hot ones left the strip as soon as they got a new Iphone. They are all on line now!

I keep hammering away at the fact that prostitution is legal here.

That's because it frees up the chicas to operate freelance anywhere they want, and they don't need to be put on show, with 30 other bored looking chics, in some organized quasi-brothel emporium on display like fish on a supermarket fish counter, where they have lady drink quotas and house set bar fines. That whole deal would depress me, as it takes away a lot of the natural male-female chemistry interaction, like meeting a chica in a bar or on the beach and checking each other out, without somebody watching her time sheet and how good she is at selling booze to the hordes of tourists that flood the place..[/QUOTE]Pattaya is still much better than Sosua for mongering, even though the quality has gone down in the last 20 years.

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3047239]Probably, but the average ask like 6000 now. In sosua I am not sure anymnore, but last time I been in DR even the fat one was asking 6000 dop. 100 dollards for a girls who is not even near 8 there is 0 chance I fall for that.[/QUOTE]People here said recently they were getting girls for 4000-4500, or $60-80 usd.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3047180]Just based on what I've seen and experienced. If I go to the best strip club in my city in the US on a Friday or Saturday night, I might see 1 turbo hottie out of like 12-15 working girls. If I go next week, I'll see 0 turbo hotties. The week after that, zero. The week after that, 1 turbo hottie. Etc.

So the point is that the turbos do still go there, which is the most important part. I suspect that is the same case in Sosua.[/QUOTE]Important to note that you can not carry over something that goes on in one city to another city. Definitely should not do it when you are talking about different countries. So what goes on in your city has zero to do with what happens in Sosua.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3047310]Important to note that you can not carry over something that goes on in one city to another city. Definitely should not do it when you are talking about different countries. So what goes on in your city has zero to do with what happens in Sosua.[/QUOTE]? I'm talking about the concept of working girls and how their availability shifts in regards to their working location.

I think you are misunderstanding me.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3047254]Pattaya is still much better than Sosua for mongering, even though the quality has gone down in the last 20 years.[/QUOTE]The quality has gone down everywhere in the last 20 years except perhaps for German FKKs from the reports I've been getting not having been there myself for the past 6 years.

[QUOTE=IronQuinn;3047156]Sosua may not be what it was before the crackdown, but it's still a paradise. There's no hustle and bustle of a city, the beautiful water and a sandy beach is right there, and the locals are friendly. First and foremost on this board is don't listen to anything Travelingman3 says. That loser keeps posting shit on here like a cancer relapse. But, that's what you can expect from guys who go to Pattaya, where the girls look like little boys. Listen to what Oakie posts. He actually lives there and knows what he's talking about. My trips have always been great to Fantasy Island. If you like a beautiful juicy ass with a cute smile, you'll like Sosua. My latest memory is hanging on the beach with a beautiful Haitiana (which she wanted to do on her own), going in the water with her, having a great time, drinking some rum, and then wild sex at night. It's all in your mindset. Take it slow and take it all in.[/QUOTE]Dude, one man's food is another man's poison; Lets all be happy that that is the case otherwise all the horny mongers in the world would flock to one place.

[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;3047046]Has something changed Bar Central had the worst Haitian chicks every there only getting customers because the guys who pick them fall into the anything black is attractive. Copacabana maybe it different now but even in the hey day where the town was packed with chicks this wasn't were you would pick up a high chick. Bailees maybe but heard it was different now. When were you last there in truth it's been a minute since I've been.[/QUOTE]I was in Sosua the entire month of May. Yeah there were a bunch of skanky Haitianas but there were plenty of doable Dominicanas, Sosua takes some level of patience, a lot of you guys expect dime pieces to fall into your laps.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3047070]
Nobody deported the beautiful chicas of DR they are still there, they just broke up the freak show, is all.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Don't waste your time trying to convince some of these clowns.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3047254]Pattaya is still much better than Sosua for mongering, even though the quality has gone down in the last 20 years.[/QUOTE]I hear ya!

I got nothing against Pattaya generally. In context, my jab, is at those posters who have for years been characterizing Sosua as just for losers, who don't know any better, even worse, "they enjoy getting tipped off".

No way to talk about fellow mongers who prefer the Latina vibe. LOL. That and the endless predictions that Sosua is dying or dead already.

I was out a couple nights ago, and it was busy, like old times. The bars were full, plenty of chicas, and the only thing missing were the aggressive skanks and freaks who used to clog up the sidewalks.

There are plenty of mongers here right now and many have sampled the delights of Pattaya, Brazil, Cali and we have a lot of Europeans and Germans who must know a thing or two about FKKs. LOL.

We have regulars that come down for the season, and that business has not dropped off at all. There are no "fire sales" of bars, hotels, and condos.

There are a few stupid ones, who always seem to make all the no no mistakes, and get their asses burned, but that's life.

There's no question Thailand draws far more mongers than DR, but hey, that's ok! I say enjoy.

It's big enough world for all of us!

[QUOTE=Turgid;3047368]Dude, one man's food is another man's poison; Lets all be happy that that is the case otherwise all the horny mongers in the world would flock to one place.[/QUOTE]That's my point. Which is why I'm curious as to why these guys come on here time and time again and bash the place when they don't like it? I'm not into Asian girls, but I don't go on the Asian threads and start bashing the place. These dudes need to stay off the board. Not only is it a waste of space, but it sends a skewed message for newbies who want to come down and check it out. All I can think of is these guys got butt burned in Sosua and know they don't want anyone else to have a good time.

Speaking of newbies to Sosua, to TerOnlyOnce, I was paying 2,500 to 3,000 pesos with a little tip for short time, and that was within some months ago. If you can speak some Spanish and tell them that's what you'll pay, nine out of ten will accept. But, if you can't speak Spanish and you instead ask them how much, they'll tell you a hundred bucks. If you go, write a trip report when you get back. I usually try to include pics with mine. That's what this info site is all about.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3047254]Pattaya is still much better than Sosua for mongering, even though the quality has gone down in the last 20 years.[/QUOTE]I think it is fair to make comparisons. I happen to agree. I do not think it is fair to call the preferences of others bashing. Is the [B]Sosua Reports[/B] thread only for posting positive reports? The kind that the [B]Sosua International Tricking Monger Association[/B] approves of?

[QUOTE=Turgid;3047364]The quality has gone down everywhere in the last 20 years except.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Greater overall affluence perhaps? I seen the same sentiment express in the country threads of Thailand, Colombia and Dominican Republic. And I happen to like the girls of all three countries.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3047368]Dude, one man's food is another man's poison; Lets all be happy that that is the case otherwise all the horny mongers in the world would flock to one place.[/QUOTE]Excellent analogy. Also remember we [B]International Tricks[/B] are talking amongst ourselves. My understanding is that there is a strong contingent of individuals who would prefer the [B]International Tricks[/B] who frequent Sosua to do their [B]International Tricking Activities[/B] keep a lower profile.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3047364]The quality has gone down everywhere in the last 20 years except perhaps for German FKKs from the reports I've been getting not having been there myself for the past 6 years.[/QUOTE]Its web fault tbh, the tools who allow board like this to make it easier then ever to find where to travel. Its now also used by the girls who now can sell their lazy ass online wihtout fucking or having to walk on the strret to find a dick with money. So, less pussy in bars and brothels.

I am more inclined to write a full report when I get back, because it is very difficult to find out what is really happening in Sosua.

My interpretation is that there are no more girls on Pedro Clisante. If you want to find girls you have to go to the beach during the day or inside of the bars at night. Which bars are the most effective and have the most / hottest girls? That I do not know, and I don't think no one knows because the information is so fragmented.

And my understanding is that you can't walk out at night with a girl on Pedro Clisante. Because right now there are tons of police guarding every single corner in mass. If they see you walking with a working girl, they will stop you on the street and hassle you. That is the understanding I am getting anyway, not sure how true it is. If it is true, then the best way to pick up a girl from a bar is to take a 2 minute taxi ride to your hotel. And my understanding with getting taxis in Sosua is that it can be annoying because there is no Uber, and you need to have bar staff call the right taxi for you, or you call it yourself off the official website or something, I honestly have no idea.

Well, I will just see what happens I guess.

I will say that if it becomes too much difficult to get laid from a bar with a hot girl who provides good service, then I will probably have to just scrap the whole plan and spend my time chilling on the beaches and eating good food. Maybe go snorkeling and turn the trip from mongering to just general relaxation. If I were to do that though, I would make a mental note to never return to Sosua again because I intended to come here for mongering.

Of course I will give it a genuine and serious effort to review this town and the opportunities when it comes to finding hot women for sex and fun bedroom times. But if I quickly see that it's too much of a headache because of logistics with the police / taxis / etc, or the availability of girls / quality of service from girls is not there, or the overall safety of the town is just bad, then yes I will make a final conclusion that the juice isn't worth the squeeze and take my US dollars elsewhere, never again to return to Sosua.

This will be my first time here so I will have a fresh view of it.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3048022]I am more inclined to write a full report when I get back, because it is very difficult to find out what is really happening in Sosua.

My interpretation is that there are no more girls on Pedro Clisante. If you want to find girls you have to go to the beach during the day or inside of the bars at night. Which bars are the most effective and have the most / hottest girls? That I do not know, and I don't think no one knows because the information is so fragmented.

And my understanding is that you can't walk out at night with a girl on Pedro Clisante. Because right now there are tons of police guarding every single corner in mass. If they see you walking with a working girl, they will stop you on the street and hassle you. That is the understanding I am getting anyway, not sure how true it is. If it is true, then the best way to pick up a girl from a bar is to take a 2 minute taxi ride to your hotel. And my understanding with getting taxis in Sosua is that it can be annoying because there is no Uber, and you need to have bar staff call the right taxi for you, or you call it yourself off the official website or something, I honestly have no idea.

Well, I will just see what happens I guess.

I will say that if it becomes too much difficult to get laid from a bar with a hot girl who provides good service, then I will probably have to just scrap the whole plan and spend my time chilling on the beaches and eating good food. Maybe go snorkeling and turn the trip from mongering to just general relaxation. If I were to do that though, I would make a mental note to never return to Sosua again because I intended to come here for mongering.

Of course I will give it a genuine and serious effort to review this town and the opportunities when it comes to finding hot women for sex and fun bedroom times. But if I quickly see that it's too much of a headache because of logistics with the police / taxis / etc, or the availability of girls / quality of service from girls is not there, or the overall safety of the town is just bad, then yes I will make a final conclusion that the juice isn't worth the squeeze and take my US dollars elsewhere, never again to return to Sosua.

This will be my first time here so I will have a fresh view of it.[/QUOTE]You shouldn't have trouble finding a chica. Its just way less of them out and about. Its ok for you to walk with a chica, the cops only brother them if they are walking alone. There is a Taxi stand on the corner of Rumbas, they wear yellow shirts.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3048077]You shouldn't have trouble finding a chica. Its just way less of them out and about. Its ok for you to walk with a chica, the cops only brother them if they are walking alone. [/QUOTE]Not sure if you have read this stellar report:

[QUOTE=WanderingMan;3046688]I just returned from the DR yesterday. During the trip, I stopped by Sosua and visited with some individuals from former visits. Sosua is a remnant of its former self.

[b]3. I witnessed two girls walking down the street with two gringos and the police detained the girls.[/b][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3048022]I am more inclined to write a full report when I get back, because it is very difficult to find out what is really happening in Sosua.

My interpretation is that there are no more girls on Pedro Clisante. If you want to find girls you have to go to the beach during the day or inside of the bars at night. Which bars are the most effective and have the most / hottest girls? That I do not know, and I don't think no one knows because the information is so fragmented.

And my understanding is that you can't walk out at night with a girl on Pedro Clisante. Because right now there are tons of police guarding every single corner in mass. If they see you walking with a working girl, they will stop you on the street and hassle you. That is the understanding I am getting anyway, not sure how true it is. If it is true, then the best way to pick up a girl from a bar is to take a 2 minute taxi ride to your hotel. And my understanding with getting taxis in Sosua is that it can be annoying because there is no Uber, and you need to have bar staff call the right taxi for you, or you call it yourself off the official website or something, I honestly have no idea.

Well, I will just see what happens I guess.

I will say that if it becomes too much difficult to get laid from a bar with a hot girl who provides good service, then I will probably have to just scrap the whole plan and spend my time chilling on the beaches and eating good food. Maybe go snorkeling and turn the trip from mongering to just general relaxation. If I were to do that though, I would make a mental note to never return to Sosua again because I intended to come here for mongering.

Of course I will give it a genuine and serious effort to review this town and the opportunities when it comes to finding hot women for sex and fun bedroom times. But if I quickly see that it's too much of a headache because of logistics with the police / taxis / etc, or the availability of girls / quality of service from girls is not there, or the overall safety of the town is just bad, then yes I will make a final conclusion that the juice isn't worth the squeeze and take my US dollars elsewhere, never again to return to Sosua.

This will be my first time here so I will have a fresh view of it.[/QUOTE]Almost all of the cops leave the streets after midnight, the chicas know this and you will see a lot more girls out after that. Is it what it used to be, of course not but there is pussy to be had. The casino at Playa Chiquita has a lot of girls but again you have to go late and it is hit or miss but late night weekends it is usually packed.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3048022]I am more inclined to write a full report when I get back, because it is very difficult to find out what is really happening in Sosua.

My interpretation is that there are no more girls on Pedro Clisante. If you want to find girls you have to go to the beach during the day or inside of the bars at night. Which bars are the most effective and have the most / hottest girls? That I do not know, and I don't think no one knows because the information is so fragmented.

And my understanding is that you can't walk out at night with a girl on Pedro Clisante. Because right now there are tons of police guarding every single corner in mass. If they see you walking with a working girl, they will stop you on the street and hassle you. That is the understanding I am getting anyway, not sure how true it is. If it is true, then the best way to pick up a girl from a bar is to take a 2 minute taxi ride to your hotel. And my understanding with getting taxis in Sosua is that it can be annoying because there is no Uber, and you need to have bar staff call the right taxi for you, or you call it yourself off the official website or something, I honestly have no idea.

Well, I will just see what happens I guess.

I will say that if it becomes too much difficult to get laid from a bar with a hot girl who provides good service, then I will probably have to just scrap the whole plan and spend my time chilling on the beaches and eating good food. Maybe go snorkeling and turn the trip from mongering to just general relaxation. If I were to do that though, I would make a mental note to never return to Sosua again because I intended to come here for mongering.

Of course I will give it a genuine and serious effort to review this town and the opportunities when it comes to finding hot women for sex and fun bedroom times. But if I quickly see that it's too much of a headache because of logistics with the police / taxis / etc, or the availability of girls / quality of service from girls is not there, or the overall safety of the town is just bad, then yes I will make a final conclusion that the juice isn't worth the squeeze and take my US dollars elsewhere, never again to return to Sosua.

This will be my first time here so I will have a fresh view of it.[/QUOTE]If its true I would say 'go elsewhere then sosua'.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3048080]Not sure if you have read this stellar report:[/QUOTE]Ok, didn't see that. The last time I was in Sosua was Halloween and didn't see that. Will be in Sosua on the 22nd.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3048080]Not sure if you have read this stellar report:[/QUOTE]And this is what I mean.

No consistent information.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3048163]Ok, didn't see that. The last time I was in Sosua was Halloween and didn't see that. Will be in Sosua on the 22nd.[/QUOTE]Great.

Maybe you can post and let us know the real reality.

[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;3047046]Has something changed Bar Central had the worst Haitian chicks every there only getting customers because the guys who pick them fall into the anything black is attractive. Copacabana maybe it different now but even in the hey day where the town was packed with chicks this wasn't were you would pick up a high chick. Bailees maybe but heard it was different now. When were you last there in truth it's been a minute since I've been.[/QUOTE]I was thinking the same thing. I notice in my travels that alot of white guys like darkskin skinny chicks with their hair not really done. Thats the kind of girls I've seen in front of Bar Central all the time.

Hello, I've never visited America Latina before so I would like to ask to the people in this forum what are the best destinations in America Latina where prostitution is visible both on internet and on the streets (I prefer places with good beaches) and where are the good spots?

Thanks, have a nice day.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3048167]I was thinking the same thing. I notice in my travels that alot of white guys like darkskin skinny chicks with their hair not really done. Thats the kind of girls I've seen in front of Bar Central all the time.[/QUOTE]Sounds like one of my own preferences.

Natural as the good lord made them, slim, unblemished athletic body, model measurements, unencumbered by tats, piercings, fake tits, fake hair and fake ass, in a wardrobe that needs a construction crew to get her in and out of! LOL.

Where what you see is what you get, and no surprises!

Except the ones that attract me are the ones with at least a part time job, and definitely don't hang in front of Bar Central.

But there's a lid for every pot, so it's all good.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3048022]I am more inclined to write a full report when I get back, because it is very difficult to find out what is really happening in Sosua.

My interpretation is that there are no more girls on Pedro Clisante. If you want to find girls you have to go to the beach during the day or inside of the bars at night. Which bars are the most effective and have the most / hottest girls? That I do not know, and I don't think no one knows because the information is so fragmented.

And my understanding is that you can't walk out at night with a girl on Pedro Clisante. Because right now there are tons of police guarding every single corner in mass. If they see you walking with a working girl, they will stop you on the street and hassle you. That is the understanding I am getting anyway, not sure how true it is. If it is true, then the best way to pick up a girl from a bar is to take a 2 minute taxi ride to your hotel. And my understanding with getting taxis in Sosua is that it can be annoying because there is no Uber, and you need to have bar staff call the right taxi for you, or you call it yourself off the official website or something, I honestly have no idea..[/QUOTE]Lot's of "ifs" in that post buddy, and all negative. Looks like every complaint we ever had on this board. With all that stuff in my head, I wouldn't risk wasting my time, or money. You need at least one positive. LOL.

Like Sosua is a popular adult vacation spot! Why?

As the enigmaster who posts on another thread, ElMexicante, opined "so many guys are looking for intel down here from guys who have put in the work. Go earn your own stripes I say".

They are the ones that keep coming back time after time, after time!.

I've been down for a few months now. There are definitely girls around. Not as many but then there's not as many weekend warriors though there are quite a few this week. There is still a very ingrained p4 p culture here and honestly you don't have to look hard- I think most of the girls have gone over to tinder- that is not my MO but my friends are doing pretty well with it.

Looking for some quality women obviously. We'll check out the bars and the casinos at night, but it seems I might be better off on the dating apps and / or Instagram. Which apps are the best? Anybody know of any Sosua girls on IG selling their services?

As the most visited tourist destination in the Caribbean, the DR manages to to maintain a solid hold on its reputation as a provider of a reasonably safe and enjoyable vacation choice. In addition, it also offers a government sanctioned environment for adult prostitution, serving a wide range of its visitors needs. It has to make the occasional effort to maintain some kind of order and control, in order to maintain a balance between the needs of its resident population and the needs of the wider tourist trade, where these needs clash.

The needs vary from high season to low season, with a greater tolerance towards tourists in its relatively short high season, December to March. It's s balance that is hard to maintain and the measures they take alternate between the extremes. They don't always get it right, but they do the best they can. This year the high season seems to be profitable, the hotels, restaurants, and bars are relatively busy and money is being spent.

When I first got here 17 years ago, there had been very little change to Sosua over the previous 20 years, and there seemed little interest in investing in the future of this little beach town. But today plans are rolling in for some major investments, as the natural assets of the country have been recognized by the prosperous economies of the USA And Europe.

There has been so many changes in the last 10 years to Sosua's infrastructure, streets and sidewalks, free internet everywhere, garbage trucks and collection and streets cleaner than my home town in midtown Toronto. New high end hotels and more. New highways and more planned.

Just West of the International airport, there is a vast area of undeveloped land with 3 or 4 miles of beautiful untouched beach called Punta Bergantin, where there has been a major development announced involving nine hotel chains including Marriot, Hyatt and Westin, beach clubs, and a golf course etc.

I've been close to the real estate business all my life, and I know the buzz in the air between a dirt poor community dying, and an opportunity to transition the area into a viable commercial project.

I know we have seen "plans" before, but these days, things that used to take a lifetime and get bogged down, can happen almost overnight, when real money gets involved.

Sosua is well placed in the center of all this action, so the Sosua we knew and loved will never come back, but for those who have a stake in the game and own a property, the future can be very bright indeed!

More on "where the chics be at" later, LOL.

[URL]https://dominicantoday.com/dr/tourism/2026/01/24/punta-bergantin-will-transform-puerto-plata-with-more-than-4500-rooms/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Oakie;3049153]As the most visited tourist destination in the Caribbean, the DR manages to to maintain a solid hold on its reputation as a provider of a reasonably safe and enjoyable vacation choice. In addition, it also offers a government sanctioned environment for adult prostitution, serving a wide range of its visitors needs. It has to make the occasional effort to maintain some kind of order and control, in order to maintain a balance between the needs of its resident population and the needs of the wider tourist trade, where these needs clash.

The needs vary from high season to low season, with a greater tolerance towards tourists in its relatively short high season, December to March. It's s balance that is hard to maintain and the measures they take alternate between the extremes. They don't always get it right, but they do the best they can. This year the high season seems to be profitable, the hotels, restaurants, and bars are relatively busy and money is being spent.

When I first got here 17 years ago, there had been very little change to Sosua over the previous 20 years, and there seemed little interest in investing in the future of this little beach town. But today plans are rolling in for some major investments, as the natural assets of the country have been recognized by the prosperous economies of the USA And Europe.[/QUOTE]Cool.

How is this relevant to where the girls are in Sosua.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3049270]Cool.

How is this relevant to where the girls are in Sosua.[/QUOTE]My post addressed one of the other topics here among mongers, namely the future outlook for Sosua. Dead or dying?

As to where the hoes be, there's lots of info posted here by myself and others on specifically named locations like the bars, restaurants at night, and the beach during the day.

RTFM. Check my posts in the last couple of weeks: Mentions amateurs, semi pros and full time pros, and where they hang. They all have their fans.

01-10-26 14:52 - #36399.

01-13-26 05:51 - #36414.

01-09-26 05:50 - #36394.

Better yet, just walk out of your centrally located GF hotel there and they'll find you. LOL.

DR and Sosua is always mentioned as a top 10 International sex destination frequented by North Americans and Europeans alike, and most visitors can find want the want.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3049411]My post addressed one of the other topics here among mongers, namely the future outlook for Sosua. Dead or dying?

As to where the hoes be, there's lots of info posted here by myself and others on specifically named locations like the bars, restaurants at night, and the beach during the day.

RTFM. Check my posts in the last couple of weeks: Mentions amateurs, semi pros and full time pros, and where they hang. They all have their fans.

01-10-26 14:52 - #36399.

01-13-26 05:51 - #36414.

01-09-26 05:50 - #36394.

Better yet, just walk out of your centrally located GF hotel there and they'll find you. LOL.

DR and Sosua is always mentioned as a top 10 International sex destination frequented by North Americans and Europeans alike, and most visitors can find want the want.[/QUOTE]I hear that they're arresting girls now.

Why would girls go to Sosua now looking for men if they know the cops are on every block and hunting girls down.

F you're going to Sosua looking for action on a first trip don't GO!

All sex tourism hubs are a shell of themselves the most active posters are long term expats or dyed in the wool veterans will maybe hundreds of trips and they know their preferred Hoe Town like tha back of their hands.

Any Newbie coming now will have a vastly different experience. My Advice for guys making their first trip Go to either Rio Frankfurt or Thailand. Those places have the most action especially for someone who doesn't know any better, If you do know the place you can make almost anyplace work for you with Time.

That being said if you want to try Sosua I'the get on Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge and set it for Puerta Plata. In Sosua itself generally around 11 am to about 5 pm Bailees restaurant will have the most action There's limited action on the beach during weekends mainly. At about 8 pm head to Blue Ice bar at 11 pm Playa Chiquita Casino will be jumping and there will be action on the streets most days after midnight. Go to the corner of Pedro Clisante and Doctor Rosen street nowadays there's more action on Doctor Rosen and even Doctor Martinez street than PC proper.

Keep in mind I'm an infrequent Sosua vistor but also don't expect anyone to constantly repeat information or understand exactly what your mongering style is.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

I posted this before they say that tourism been up in particular from the US and Europe. Whenever I visit this country the airport be dead. I saw more people from Latin America at the airport than Europeans or Americans. I think this shit been made up also to make the country look good in reality. Money is tight all around the world and folks rather spend their hard earned dollars and Euros somewhere else than the RD. To be honest they need to let Sosua return back to a open air brothel and tourists will come back again. I understand the reason why they cracked down on Sosua but hell turning it into another resort town during the worst economic crisis within in our lifetime is a waste of time and money.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3049153]As the most visited tourist destination in the Caribbean, the DR manages to to maintain a solid hold on its reputation as a provider of a reasonably safe and enjoyable vacation choice. In addition, it also offers a government sanctioned environment for adult prostitution, serving a wide range of its visitors needs. It has to make the occasional effort to maintain some kind of order and control, in order to maintain a balance between the needs of its resident population and the needs of the wider tourist trade, where these needs clash.

The needs vary from high season to low season, with a greater tolerance towards tourists in its relatively short high season, December to March. It's s balance that is hard to maintain and the measures they take alternate between the extremes. They don't always get it right, but they do the best they can. This year the high season seems to be profitable, the hotels, restaurants, and bars are relatively busy and money is being spent.

When I first got here 17 years ago, there had been very little change to Sosua over the previous 20 years, and there seemed little interest in investing in the future of this little beach town. But today plans are rolling in for some major investments, as the natural assets of the country have been recognized by the prosperous economies of the USA And Europe.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't use dating apps in opinion it's only going to lead to either A) You paying higher leeche papi leeche prices or B) Cat Fished with a hundreds of dollars fine being paid to the police. I used a dating app in Kenya, Madagascar, Mexico and Colombia I was ultimately disappointed in each country most of those women wanted to establish a long term long distance relationship with no sex being involved so some simp can send them money. Another thing almost none of the women was willing to videochat unless they were in Kenya or Madagascar. The crazy thing about it, they had a fully grown hairy man in the background they always claimed that was there bother or some other male relative. Overall prostitution is on a decline worldwide and I posted this before to many people fucking the game up. I'm pretty sure you've been DM by simps asking about find a girlfriend in a country they never visited before hence they're ready to send money to them at any time.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3049461]F you're going to Sosua looking for action on a first trip don't GO!

All sex tourism hubs are a shell of themselves the most active posters are long term expats or dyed in the wool veterans will maybe hundreds of trips and they know their preferred Hoe Town like tha back of their hands.

Any Newbie coming now will have a vastly different experience. My Advice for guys making their first trip Go to either Rio Frankfurt or Thailand. Those places have the most action especially for someone who doesn't know any better, If you do know the place you can make almost anyplace work for you with Time.

That being said if you want to try Sosua I'the get on Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge and set it for Puerta Plata. In Sosua itself generally around 11 am to about 5 pm Bailees restaurant will have the most action There's limited action on the beach during weekends mainly. At about 8 pm head to Blue Ice bar at 11 pm Playa Chiquita Casino will be jumping and there will be action on the streets most days after midnight. Go to the corner of Pedro Clisante and Doctor Rosen street nowadays there's more action on Doctor Rosen and even Doctor Martinez street than PC proper..[/QUOTE]

Really Men looking to have sex with women should go to FKK Sharks and be done with it. But some of these mongers live in Delusion too. Some guys need to be manipulated. Using a ¨Dating app¨ is like using a web cam app the women are there to delude and manipulate you.

I live in Colombia I don't use dating apps at all but If I did it would be to set up a date to fuck a girl to give her money not to get a Girlfriend or even a Girlfriend experience.

Frankly any dude who travels to all the monger countries while not bothering to learn the local culture and learn any women at you see more than one time is at a huge disadvantage especially to the local monger and the expat monger.

As for Sosua this is the height of high season all we know for certain is that a large number of people as been into the Dominican Republic what we don't know is how many tourists went to Sosua or how many mongers where there and how much time and money did they spend there.

The Family Tourists definitely aren't there in great numbers so it seems that there's basically the same nifty thrifty fifty year olds who have been comming for 20 years who have a few beers at Jolly Roger and go home.

What I haven't heard is about an increase of money flowing through Sosua properly.

I posted what I believe is the mongering situation as it stands in Sosua now the days of the 24 hour parade of putas has been reduced to a couple of stalwarts who go staright to bars or the Casino and if and when they're on the street it's after midnight.

I would tell anyone thinking of going keep this in mind and not a 4 year old Pudo TV video.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3049451]I hear that they're arresting girls now.

Why would girls go to Sosua now looking for men if they know the cops are on every block and hunting girls down.[/QUOTE]Don't believe everything you hear! LOL you'll be finding out for yourself when you get there.

[QUOTE][B]I booked my trip[/B]

I am more inclined to write a full report when I get back, because it is very difficult to find out what is really happening in Sosua[/QUOTE]Let us know how you make out!

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3049461]That being said if you want to try Sosua I'the get on Tinder, Bumble, and Hinge and set it for Puerta Plata.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I'm already on Tinder and it seems I'm doing all right. Got quite a bit of interest. Hopefully a few of these prospects actually materialize. If not, I'm sure I can find some decent trim late at night.

I'm not expecting much, but from what I'm hearing, I'm liking the changes that Sosua has been making. I know some of the men here want the old Sosua back, but that shit sounded ratchet af. Sosua needed some classing up. The only thing I wish Sosua had were more girls that spoke English. But I suppose that'll come in time as the economy gets better.

Looking forward to my first trip to Sosua. Will report back with a summary of my conquests and my general sense of where the place is going.

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3049466]I posted this before they say that tourism been up in particular from the US and Europe. Whenever I visit this country the airport be dead. I saw more people from Latin America at the airport than Europeans or Americans. I think this shit been made up also to make the country look good in reality. Money is tight all around the world and folks rather spend their hard earned dollars and Euros somewhere else than the RD. [/QUOTE]You keep saying that as if the country is not poppin if [B]you[/B] did not see people at the airport at the particular time you are there. Just like most places, airports have high traffic time and low traffic times. If you go to McDonald's at 10 am after the breakfast rush but before the lunch rush, you may swear they have no customers and are about to close the doors for good. But you were there at the wrong time, which is nothing tourism in the entire country can be judged from. People are swarming Dominican Republic. It may not be Puerto Plata or Santiago airports, but Santo Domingo and Punta Cana have more visitors than you can shake a stick at.

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3049468]I wouldn't use dating apps in opinion it's only going to lead to either A) You paying higher leeche papi leeche prices or B) Cat Fished with a hundreds of dollars fine being paid to the police. I used a dating app in Kenya, Madagascar, Mexico and Colombia I was ultimately disappointed in each country most of those women wanted to establish a long term long distance relationship with no sex being involved so some simp can send them money. [/QUOTE]I guess I can not knock your experience, but my experience has been the complete opposite of yours. I have been going to the Dominican Republic over 20 years and I have been using dating apps even longer. Not sure how you came up with these opinions. Seems like you just pull them out of thin air.

I have never had to pay any police any fines after meeting chicks from dating apps and I have met literally thousands of chicks on dating apps. No idea how many you have actually met, but if none of those led to paying hundreds of dollars in fines to the cops, then what gives? Might as well be telling people not to go past the casino at night or they will be abducted by a ufo.

If a chick does not want to videocall then simply move to the next one. It is neither rocket surgery nor do or die. Nobody is going bat 100% on dating apps, but neither should they bat 1%. From what you are saying they are a complete waste of time. My extensive experience says otherwise. You can't throw the baby out with the bathwater. There were some ants in my place the other day. I sprayed some alcohol and put down some ant powder and all was well. Seems like you would have gone straight to burning the place down instead of using a middle ground solution. Found 2 chicks out of thousands that did not video call and you are ready to completely ditch dating apps.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3049494]Don't believe everything you hear! LOL you'll be finding out for yourself when you get there.

Let us know how you make out![/QUOTE]Yeah.

I'm planning to post a massive multi-day report once my trip is over.

Only concern I have is if there is a word / character limit on how long a post can be on here.

I wouldn't be surprised if I crack 10,000 words because honestly at this point, with all the fragmented information being thrown around, Sosua needs to be demystified. The unfiltered and objective mongering reality on the ground needs to be extensively detailed.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3049603]Yeah.

I'm planning to post a massive multi-day report once my trip is over.

Only concern I have is if there is a word / character limit on how long a post can be on here.

I wouldn't be surprised if I crack 10,000 words because honestly at this point, with all the fragmented information being thrown around, Sosua needs to be demystified. The unfiltered and objective mongering reality on the ground needs to be extensively detailed.[/QUOTE]We appreciate the report for 10,000 words is kind of excessive if you can give us a synopsis 😂.

For all the skepticism going around here, I was all set to fly out this Monday morning as a first timer, but Mother Nature had other plans with my flights getting cancelled few hours before departure. Don't take things for granted, when you have the opportunity to explore just take it and go with it. I am optimistic for another opportunity soon.

[QUOTE=FlyGuyEddie007;3049609]We appreciate the report for 10,000 words is kind of excessive if you can give us a synopsis.[/QUOTE]Naw, no synopsis.

Every little mongering detail needs to be documented.

Everyone on this forum knows that the police don't depend on their salaries to make ends meet alone and neither do judges. I once asked a question last year in regards to why no one gets a massage on El Conde. And no one and I mean absolutely no one answered my question including you. I noticed that the police is always stationed outside of those massage and barbershops on El Conde. I put it too the test and you know they are there to get some money when a dispute arises and I'm not talking about a small amount of money. When I visit Nanco I hear stories about El Conde all they long in regards to the police so let's not discredit this in order to protect monger's pockets. I don't use dating apps people post about dating apps I decided to put it to the test and that was the end results I got nothing more than the mere runaround. It's funny people make seems like if you're looking for pay to play use a dating app. Despite the fact these apps are used for finding a girlfriend, wife and not normally a escort! Some of those dating apps are owned by Meta aka Facebook, other American companies while some are owned by Australian companies. Unfortunately people failed to realize underneath President Trump 1. 0 it's illegal for a American company to promote prostitution and let's keep that in mind.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3049527]I guess I can not knock your experience, but my experience has been the complete opposite of yours. I have been going to the Dominican Republic over 20 years and I have been using dating apps even longer. Not sure how you came up with these opinions. Seems like you just pull them out of thin air.

I have never had to pay any police any fines after meeting chicks from dating apps and I have met literally thousands of chicks on dating apps. No idea how many you have actually met, but if none of those led to paying hundreds of dollars in fines to the cops, then what gives? Might as well be telling people not to go past the casino at night or they will be abducted by a ufo.

If a chick does not want to videocall then simply move to the next one. It is neither rocket surgery nor do or die. Nobody is going bat 100% on dating apps, but neither should they bat 1%. From what you are saying they are a complete waste of time. My extensive experience says otherwise. You can't throw the baby out with the bathwater. There were some ants in my place the other day. I sprayed some alcohol and put down some ant powder and all was well. Seems like you would have gone straight to burning the place down instead of using a middle ground solution. Found 2 chicks out of thousands that did not video call and you are ready to completely ditch dating apps.[/QUOTE]

You got me there, then again I'm boots on the ground when it comes to providing realistic solutions to protecting monger assets. I never do travel announcements but I'm currently in the RD right now. I own property in that country and businesses too I normally don't discuss shit like that on a sex tourism forum. I fly to that country all the time for business I know what I'm talking about. I go not only what I see in the airport but also what I see in those tourist areas. Punta Cana is not that busy with Americans and Europeans I'm going to say this I see more people from other Latin American countries visiting the RD now and they don't have money like that the hawkers doesn't approach them. Half of the time they don't approach me because they think I have a Latino salary! The stories I hear is all the same business has been slow, tourists don't come like how they use to I what Sosua to come back because I like the thrill of see women with all shapes and sizes being available. I'm the type of guy I'm in a mood for a slim woman, next day thick, extra thick, Voluptuous and even fat. I thought it, that place literally had the best options in the streets I've been to in a long time outside of Kampala Uganda and Jobourgh.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3049524]You keep saying that as if the country is not poppin if [B]you[/B] did not see people at the airport at the particular time you are there. Just like most places, airports have high traffic time and low traffic times. If you go to McDonald's at 10 am after the breakfast rush but before the lunch rush, you may swear they have no customers and are about to close the doors for good. But you were there at the wrong time, which is nothing tourism in the entire country can be judged from. People are swarming Dominican Republic. It may not be Puerto Plata or Santiago airports, but Santo Domingo and Punta Cana have more visitors than you can shake a stick at.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3049603]Yeah.

I'm planning to post a massive multi-day report once my trip is over.

Only concern I have is if there is a word / character limit on how long a post can be on here.

I wouldn't be surprised if I crack 10,000 words because honestly at this point, with all the fragmented information being thrown around, Sosua needs to be demystified. The unfiltered and objective mongering reality on the ground needs to be extensively detailed.[/QUOTE]Now you're worried about going over a word count with a report?

Way too much overthinking going on here. Planning an tentative itinerary is one thing, but obsessing over negatives you hear about from others is something else. So many things to demystify LOL. It could rain all week and blow the whole plan!

Getting laid in a legal brothel, even an open air one like Sosua, can be reduced to a couple of propositions. It's just like going out to eat, take money, chose a meal, and do the deed! If you can't get satisfaction, pick a different restaurant, if you still can't find a decent meal, time to look in the mirror!

It's been working well for most guys for hundreds, thousands of years. No need to re-invent the wheel!

[QUOTE=Oakie;3049647]Now you're worried about going over a word count with a report?

Way too much overthinking going on here. Planning an tentative itinerary is one thing, but obsessing over negatives you hear about from others is something else. So many things to demystify LOL. It could rain all week and blow the whole plan!

Getting laid in a legal brothel, even an open air one like Sosua, can be reduced to a couple of propositions. It's just like going out to eat, take money, chose a meal, and do the deed! If you can't get satisfaction, pick a different restaurant, if you still can't find a decent meal, time to look in the mirror!

It's been working well for most guys for hundreds, thousands of years. No need to re-invent the wheel![/QUOTE]Yeah.

If I can't post it all in one go I may have to break it up into multiple posts which may be more trouble than it's worth.

Putting a 10,000 word report in 1 post may breach a limit on this forum. Idk what the limit is.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3049603]Yeah.

I'm planning to post a massive multi-day report once my trip is over.

Only concern I have is if there is a word / character limit on how long a post can be on here.

I wouldn't be surprised if I crack 10,000 words because honestly at this point, with all the fragmented information being thrown around, Sosua needs to be demystified. The unfiltered and objective mongering reality on the ground needs to be extensively detailed.[/QUOTE]You are seriously overthinking this. The only mystery is to folks that have not been recently. I even posted pictures from last time I went and folks still claimed to be in doubt. I am betting that after you finally see the reality that your massive multiday report will be able to be done in 20 words or less starting with, Newsflash: fat meat is definitely greasy. Experience is the best teacher. Unfortunately in many cases money and time have to be wasted to gain the experience.

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3049639]Everyone on this forum knows that the police don't depend on their salaries to make ends meet alone and neither do judges.[/QUOTE]You just said all those words yet none of them included the story about when you had to pay a fine to the police after meeting a chick off a dating site. If you can not make it plain, then you are making it up. You can tell about having property, having business, flying into the airport, yet not one word of when you personally had to give the police money because of a chick you met on a dating site. Yeah. If that was actually a thing then you would have been itching to write the report a long time ago.

[QUOTE=MwenByen;3049639]I once asked a question last year in regards to why no one gets a massage on El Conde. And no one and I mean absolutely no one answered my question including you. [/QUOTE]I can't answer for other folks, but I can not believe someone would be dumb enough to try to get a massage on El Conde. That is probably why I did not answer. Tons of places online and [B]on dating sites[/B] advertising regular massages and sex massages, yet someone would be fool enough to go to a random place where there are no signs advertising massages to look for a massage? You may as well be asking why nobody goes fishing on El Conde. El Conde ain't a place to fish, same as it ain't a place to get a massage. If someone on El Conde talks to you about a massage, then they are trying to rip you off, same as they would be doing if they would be to talk to you about going fishing there.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3049481]Really Men looking to have sex with women should go to FKK Sharks and be done with it........[/QUOTE]That should be Men looking to have sex with really beautiful women.

In your own words everybody knows that these types of events happens in that country and there's no need to ask nor give a explanation on this forum. In other words if you been visiting the RD for over 20 yrs and you never knew this type of stuff happens despite the fact guys on YouTube spoke out about this and even the socialites in luxury hotels in SD discuss those topics. The only thing I can do is offer my humble apologies and move on.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3049698]You just said all those words yet none of them included the story about when you had to pay a fine to the police after meeting a chick off a dating site. If you can not make it plain, then you are making it up. You can tell about having property, having business, flying into the airport, yet not one word of when you personally had to give the police money because of a chick you met on a dating site. Yeah. If that was actually a thing then you would have been itching to write the report a long time ago.

I can't answer for other folks, but I can not believe someone would be dumb enough to try to get a massage on El Conde. That is probably why I did not answer. Tons of places online and [B]on dating sites[/B] advertising regular massages and sex massages, yet someone would be fool enough to go to a random place where there are no signs advertising massages to look for a massage? You may as well be asking why nobody goes fishing on El Conde. El Conde ain't a place to fish, same as it ain't a place to get a massage. If someone on El Conde talks to you about a massage, then they are trying to rip you off, same as they would be doing if they would be to talk to you about going fishing there.[/QUOTE]

I didn't need to go down to the strip to get an idea what's going on.

When my rental / condo building is so full, noise level is high, and it continues all night and I can't sleep.

Sosua is open for business folks, so's the beach with many buses lined up from some place called Amber Cove, LOL.

And Classico is rocking again!

[URL]https://youtu.be/IaP3DbNr2iM[/URL]

Maybe our expert "vets" here need to have an 'Intervention' with Willie. Explain to him why the poor guy is going to lose his shirt!

LOL.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3050185]I didn't need to go down to the strip to get an idea what's going on.

When my rental / condo building is so full, noise level is high, and it continues all night and I can't sleep.

Sosua is open for business folks, so's the beach with many buses lined up from some place called Amber Cove, LOL.

And Classico is rocking again!

[URL]https://youtu.be/IaP3DbNr2iM[/URL]

Maybe our expert "vets" here need to have an 'Intervention' with Willie. Explain to him why the poor guy is going to lose his shirt!

LOL.[/QUOTE]If its like Classico of old I'm getting my ass down there!

So you did not need to go down to the strip to see what was going on. You even posted a video that you obviously did not watch. If you call rocking the fact that music is playing loud, then I guess. But my idea of rocking is not being in a club full of dudes listening to loud music.

Then it is obvious that the owner of the channel has some vested interest to get people to Sosua. People in the comment section all say but there are only dudes in the video. And he replies you think I am going to put up a video of 30 chicks twerking to get my channel taken down. But you can put up a video of 30 dudes drinking alcohol? When has a channel ever been taken down because people were dancing in a video? Then he goes on to berate people for not going in some type of reverse psychology method that berating them would lead to them going. It is like the Sosua street hooker calling you cheap in order to get more money out of you; now you want to prove to her that you are not cheap, so you give her an extra $20 just to not look cheap. Now he suspects guys are going to flood Sosua to prove they are not living in their dad's garage. Nice try.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3050318]So you did not need to go down to the strip to see what was going on. You even posted a video that you obviously did not watch. If you call rocking the fact that music is playing loud, then I guess. But my idea of rocking is not being in a club full of dudes listening to loud music.

Then it is obvious that the owner of the channel has some vested interest to get people to Sosua. People in the comment section all say but there are only dudes in the video. And he replies you think I am going to put up a video of 30 chicks twerking to get my channel taken down. But you can put up a video of 30 dudes drinking alcohol? When has a channel ever been taken down because people were dancing in a video? Then he goes on to berate people for not going in some type of reverse psychology method that berating them would lead to them going. It is like the Sosua street hooker calling you cheap in order to get more money out of you; now you want to prove to her that you are not cheap, so you give her an extra $20 just to not look cheap. Now he suspects guys are going to flood Sosua to prove they are not living in their dad's garage. Nice try.[/QUOTE]LOL.

Why is it so hard to get realistic information as to what is going on.

It's always someone hyping up / over exaggerating by saying there's tons of girls, or it's a doomer who is claiming that Sosua is completely over and all the girls have permanently left.

There is never a detailed, accurate, and honest review such as "it's actually not clear what the situation is on the ground. Sure you can find girls, but they will be harder to find, and they aren't always out. For example, when I was walking down the beach on a Tuesday afternoon, I saw about 5-10 girls that were clearly working girls, so there are options out there still".

Nope, we can't get a review like that, instead we get yapping and yapping with no real substance.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3050336]LOL.

Why is it so hard to get realistic information as to what is going on.

It's always someone hyping up / over exaggerating by saying there's tons of girls, or it's a doomer who is claiming that Sosua is completely over and all the girls have permanently left.

There is never a detailed, accurate, and honest review such as "it's actually not clear what the situation is on the ground. Sure you can find girls, but they will be harder to find, and they aren't always out. For example, when I was walking down the beach on a Tuesday afternoon, I saw about 5-10 girls that were clearly working girls, so there are options out there still".

Nope, we can't get a review like that, instead we get yapping and yapping with no real substance.[/QUOTE]Manizales911 replied to one of your posts in January with a straightforward report and I've posted some tips as well. The thing you have to realize is that after the raids last year it became a new ballgame. Things are ever-changing down there right now. Before it was easy and predictable. The expats have their lineup, so they're all good. But, for the guy who goes down once or twice a year it can be frustrating due to the uncertainly. That's why a lot of dudes haven't pulled the trigger in these new times down there. If you're faced with the option of going somewhere that has consistent mongering options like Colombia (which is where I've been going), or going somewhere that's hit or miss, where would most people choose? Also keep in mind that video was posted by Flip and for some reason he hardly ever shows girls in his vids. Other Youtubers only show the beach during the day on a weekend and say the girls are gone, but that has traditionally always been a family day down there. So, the moral is take any video you see with a grain of salt, and nobody can give you exact info because these are new times. I love Sosua, but I'm waiting till it settles some more before I pull the trigger. It comes down to if you want to roll the dice and go, the potential is there for a good trip, but it's not guaranteed. If I were you, I'd go back and read replies to your past posts. And if you decide to roll the dice maybe you'll be the hero of the board with your 10 k-word report.

Things were ramped up quite a bit this weekend, lots of weekend warriors but also just a lot of tourists here right now. There were lots of girls around, not like it was but then there's way less weekend warriors also. I think most of the long term guys and most of the old hands have found better fishing from online. Don't get me wrong those girls are in or near Sosua and it is still ground zero. I was in Willy's Club 59 Classicos. It was still pretty early but I would say about 75% full downstairs, they were enforcing a dress code with girls which would definitely rule out obvious working girls. Drinks cost about double there and I think prices go up more if you go upstairs. Good luck to them but it's not my COT.

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3050336]LOL.

Why is it so hard to get realistic information as to what is going on.

It's always someone hyping up / over exaggerating by saying there's tons of girls, or it's a doomer who is claiming that Sosua is completely over and all the girls have permanently left.

There is never a detailed, accurate, and honest review such as "it's actually not clear what the situation is on the ground. Sure you can find girls, but they will be harder to find, and they aren't always out. For example, when I was walking down the beach on a Tuesday afternoon, I saw about 5-10 girls that were clearly working girls, so there are options out there still".

Nope, we can't get a review like that, instead we get yapping and yapping with no real substance.[/QUOTE]That's because Sosua P4P market is not commercialized like some other popular monger venues. It's a legal and encouraged freelance model, that operates anywhere and anytime across the town, and indeed the whole country.

Unlike venues like Pattaya where you can point to literally thousands of commercial establishments that hire, manage and provide SWs to the public, with drink quotas, bar fine fees, etc, the DR freelances are under no obligation to provide sex to anyone who offers money.

So there's absolutely no comparison to be made between DR and Thailand. In Thailand you can point a customer to any number of specific bars at specific times, and he can expect to receive a more or less guaranteed session, either on site or off site at a fixed price.

Not so in DR, except in a general way, where most activity is conducted day and night on beaches and the popular bars, restaurants and hotels named here. But you are not guaranteed a successful negotiation, and can run out of time and go home alone.

Here, more than ever Your Mileage May Vary, and you can't guarantee anything.

Enough visitors prefer the DR model which more closely resembles the Western tradition of meeting, talking, finding common ground with the individual, without her employer (pimp) supervising the deal, to keep the business going!

But as always, to each his own!

[QUOTE=Oakie;3050400]That's because Sosua P4P market is not commercialized like some other popular monger venues. It's a legal and encouraged freelance model, that operates anywhere and anytime across the town, and indeed the whole country.

Unlike venues like Pattaya where you can point to literally thousands of commercial establishments that hire, manage and provide SWs to the public, with drink quotas, bar fine fees, etc, the DR freelances are under no obligation to provide sex to anyone who offers money.

So there's absolutely no comparison to be made between DR and Thailand. In Thailand you can point a customer to any number of specific bars at specific times, and he can expect to receive a more or less guaranteed session, either on site or off site at a fixed price.

Not so in DR, except in a general way, where most activity is conducted day and night on beaches and the popular bars, restaurants and hotels named here. But you are not guaranteed a successful negotiation, and can run out of time and go home alone.[/QUOTE]Interesting.

Do you think this model is better compared to the commercial establishment model?

At least with commercial, you have the escort agencies where you can book a girl and call them to you.

But you would say it's better to have this freelancer model where there isn't a specific "business" that you go to to get the girls?

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3050455]Interesting.

Do you think this model is better compared to the commercial establishment model?

At least with commercial, you have the escort agencies where you can book a girl and call them to you.

But you would say it's better to have this freelancer model where there isn't a specific "business" that you go to to get the girls?[/QUOTE]"Better" is a subjective term referring to a monger's preference, and as you say it's a subject that leads to the constant, "we get yapping and yapping with no real substance".

I'm obviously a fan of the DR model, that's why I only post in this forum, except for the time my opinions on Sosua were being discussed by some of my critics, in the Columbia, Thailand and Philippines Forums.

The things that I prefer in Sosua, are the culture, the language, the ease in which one can assimilate with the locals, and Latino ladies who I find more attractive.

Any advice I get to move on to other places, is a complete waste of time to me, because I'm just not attracted sexually to the clones that line the street bars of Thailand.

I'm just a fan of Sosua, and the North Coast in general like my friends, and returning mongers. Those who's encouragement years ago got me to visit the place, and I'm just giving back!

But as you can see here, there are many that don't share my opinions.

One size can never fit all, and it's a big enough world out there, that I hope everybody can find their own little piece of heaven, like I did!

[QUOTE=TerOnlyOnce;3050455]Interesting.

Do you think this model is better compared to the commercial establishment model?

At least with commercial, you have the escort agencies where you can book a girl and call them to you.

But you would say it's better to have this freelancer model where there isn't a specific "business" that you go to to get the girls?[/QUOTE]It'the be better to talk about a place you really liked so that we have a gauge on what you may prefer. It seems like you might be intrigued by the Thailand model with a standard but more guaranteed service over a freelance situation where you might be robbed or have the time of your life.

The ironic thing is you can get the Freelance model in Thailand and the commercial experience in the DR if you know where to look.

The commericial freelance hybrid is in Blackbeards, I think they have a website so that you can see if the girls on site tickle your fancy but girls tend to kind of come and go as they please meaning especially as an in frequent tourist all the girls will be new to you. You could also check out PC and take her to a cabana hotel.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE]=Triple Darknes;3050546]It'the be better to talk about a place you really liked so that we have a gauge on what you may prefer. It seems like you might be intrigued by the Thailand model with a standard but more guaranteed service over a freelance situation where you might be robbed or have the time of your life.[/QUOTE]Really? You can think of only 2 extreme outcomes? And, which do you believe is the norm for the average Sosua monger?

[QUOTE]The ironic thing is you can get the Freelance model in Thailand and the commercial experience in the DR if you know where to look.[/QUOTE]I think most Sosua mongers are aware of Blackbeards. LOL. It has it's own dedicated forum, below!

[QUOTE]The commericial freelance hybrid is in Blackbeards, I think they have a website so that you can see if the girls on site tickle your fancy but girls tend to kind of come and go as they please meaning especially as an in frequent tourist all the girls will be new to you.[/QUOTE]You may be "guaranteed" service, but not necessarily satisfaction. Our erstwhile poster should definitely check out the Blackbeards dedicated Forum before pulling that trigger. The last couple of pages is almost all complaints, a common complaint is the one or two hotter chica tend to be booked up solid for the week, (or off sick!) And it's not "freelance". All the "staff and crew" are recruted and trained up on the policies and prices. A SW off the street can't just walk in and solicit their clients!

[QUOTE]You could also check out PC and take her to a cabana hotel.[/QUOTE]Huh? You don't need to go all the way to Punta Cana to take a chica to a cabana.

[QUOTE=Oakie;3050614]Really? You can think of only 2 extreme outcomes? And, which do you believe is the norm for the average Sosua monger?

I think most Sosua mongers are aware of Blackbeards. LOL. It has it's own dedicated forum, below!

You may be "guaranteed" service, but not necessarily satisfaction. Our erstwhile poster should definitely check out the Blackbeards dedicated Forum before pulling that trigger. The last couple of pages is almost all complaints, a common complaint is the one or two hotter chica tend to be booked up solid for the week, (or off sick!) And it's not "freelance". All the "staff and crew" are recruted and trained up on the policies and prices. A SW off the street can't just walk in and solicit their clients!

Huh? You don't need to go all the way to Punta Cana to take a chica to a cabana.[/QUOTE]Damn it's one thing to advocate for a place but you Sosua expats are something else.

The other guy was asking about the merits of covered action vs. True freelance action so I gave him an answer.

If you're concerned about guys not dumping on your beloved Sosua you're going to have to point a true casa guy to casa locations.

I LOOOOVE Cali Colombia But I'd the never tell the average monger to come here, in fact I famously say f you're coming to Colombia for the first time GO TO THE DR.

Because as we all know Colombia has crime. Now I could say I've been here for several years without incident but I know from dealing with Mongers when I would literally hand carry them to spots That my experience is not other people's experience.

I looked at his posts he seems to be an Hong Kong Club in Tijuana fan. I never been there but I have been to Tijuana and other clubs there and I didn't like it. I prefer the Sosua style freelance experience and all the things that you listed about the DR the one thing I don't like is the hypocrisy of the fake anti monger methods of Sosua.

I also don't like the oversaturation of tourism the high costs and the crappy infrastructure. I'm on track to being a Colombian citizen there's people who have been in the DR for years in legal limbo.

Give me ultra violent Colombia with its clear rule of law (where the law exists) over the loosey goosey who you knowRule of Man in the DR.

Again the Minister of the Interior says no sex tourism and as you say Blackbeards has a whole forum.

But again if you don't want the anti Sosua crowd in here then when some new monger who sounds like he may not have the right mentality for the place you have to warn him.

Dude said if he finds the place not to his liking he will never return. The guy could come on a rainy Tuesday evening go to Kings and it not have people in there and think that he was gaslit.

If you're a true freelance / semipro hunter really anyplace with women is OK. I almost never go to a strip club or brothel down here unless long term buddies who visit drag me. I just go to the mall.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

I am following this thread for quite some time in the hopes of experiencing Sosua first hand. But as far as I can flip pages, have not come across any chica reviews / experiences or no tangible hobby inputs to get laid when you visit. But loads of crap shoot with very different view points. I am still naive to understand the tactics here or read betwen the lines. I must conclude as with any investments, this has to be like 'past performance does not guarantee future results'. If one had to venture out, some of the potential outcomes below in no particular sequence so that no one has to waste hours reading the posts. Keep the entertainment going.

- Lots of chicas on the strip / lots of families visiting having fun.

- Chicas not on the streets, but bars full of chicas / just bunch of old gringos chatting.

- Police arresting all chicas / all chicas are expert digital marketers.

- Strip buzzing and loud / just empty streets hurting business.

- relentless rains keeping people away / it sucks on weekdays.

- chicas are still on ground zero, you have to figure out / all chicas migrated to SD, PC etc.

- gringo parties all night, loud condos and unable to sleep / empty hotels and throw away AirBNB prices.

- Don't like unkempt chicas. No hair, manicure, pedicure. ,/ but I will only pay $40.

Anyone got boots on the ground in sosua? I will be going soon. Want to hear how the chicas are looking.

[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3051030]Anyone got boots on the ground in sosua? I will be going soon. Want to hear how the chicas are looking.[/QUOTE]No idea. Nobody wants to post anything about chicks. But from the video there appears they do want you to know there are plenty of dudes to assist you in your "cama"raderie needs.

Until this weekend that just passed, I've never been to DR. I was never a part of the ongoing debate in this thread about whether Sosua is dead or still very much alive.

What I'm going to write is my attempt to be as honest and thorough about my experiences in Sosua this past weekend. Interpret my words as you please and I hope to answer quite a few questions here, even though I'm a DR newbie.

- Preparation.

For a few weeks before my trip to Sosua, I've been doing some heavy research. That included reading through this thread, watching a whole bunch of videos online, and even reading up on Operation Atlantico. So I didn't go into DR naive to what's been going on. That being said, I was still excited to go as my buddies couldn't stop raving about their time in DR more than a decade ago.

- Hotel.

My friends and I went with the Hotel Alicia based on the comments here. It seems most of the guys here preferred staying there when they came on vacation.

The good. The open-air hallways were nice. The free breakfast every morning was slamming. The food was so damn good. Honestly the best meals I ate in Sosua were at that hotel.

The bad. The place is understaffed, some of the people they have working there are lazy as hell (particularly the men), the hot water in my room wasn't even turned on when I got there, my toilet stopped flushing after a few days because the stopper was faulty, the furniture was in shit shape, wi-fi was questionable. I get it, it's a $60/ night hotel. But for fuck's sake, $60 is a decent chunk of change in the DR, no?

They have a fat slob with cartoon teeth who kept trying to sell us on some girls he was advertising. We had to keep telling him no. He was clearly irked after a few days.

I wouldn't stay there again. If anything I'd look into Sosua Hotel or an AirBnB.

- Sosua general.

My friend and I walked around the area on the first day just soaking in the vibes. One thing caught my eye. I see quite a few civilian tourists walking around. These aren't mongers. These are genuine tourists just walking around and going shopping. I didn't expect that in a town that's renowned for the sex trade. Maybe the crackdown is paying dividends.

One day when we were just wandering around, a car full of chicas slows down near us to catcall us. One of the chicas even asks us if we need an uber ride somewhere LOL. "no thank you, love".

Beaches were just lovely. Waves were much more fierce than I expected. All sorts of tourists were hanging out and enjoying the water. Waiters from nearby restaurants kept running back and forth between the beaches and the bars in order to keep us hydrated.

My friend and I met up with a realtor. I was shocked at some of the prices for the properties listed. Some buildings being built have units retailing for high six-figures / low seven-figures. Some villas are selling for a couple million. I guess the expat money is getting to a serious point here. Interestingly enough, the realtor was an Austrian expat whose mother was Dominican.

The girls are no longer selling themselves on the streets. The police have made sure of that, especially as they're constantly present on the streets. If you want to meet women, you have to go to the bars at night or cruise through Tinder during the day. For whatever it's worth, I prefer it like that. I don't want to harassed by coochie every single time I step outside. My friends who have all been to DR before have noted the change as well and seem to appreciate that sex work has become more localized in select establishments. Speaking of select establishments. Let's talk Bailee's.

- Bars.

Most of our time was spent at Bailee's. All my friends fell in love with Bailee's. The easygoing bartenders, the vibes, the way the music cooly melts into the background, the drinks, the GIRLS. It was a fun time. Bailee's was swarming with women every single evening we were there. I would say that at its busiest moments on any given night, ladies outnumbered the gents 2 to 1. Most of the ladies are just sitting around waiting for guys to approach and solicit them. It was fun making eye contact with these women and romancing them as they walked by. On top of that, we got to know a few other mongers as well.

But we did hit up other bars / clubs as well. One such bar was located right near the Hard Rock cafe. I think it was called K-lo-k or something. We went in simply to grab a quick drink and some easy food. But while we were there, we chat it up with the bartender and she tells us how things have been really slow over the past few months. All the guys that she was keeping in touch with have been opting to go to Colombia since the crackdown. Apparently, her long-time customers loved that Sosua essentially operated as an open-air brothel before the authorities tamped down on that. With that no longer the reality on the ground, Colombia seems to be the new preferred destination for these passport bros. As we're talking with the bartender, my friend and I see two chicas park their big booties right near us in the bar. One of the chicas in particular starts wooing my friend. My friend being a horny fuck immediately suggests we take the ladies back. Ehh. I look at them and think they're meh, but whatever, they'll be good warm-up. I talk more about the chicas further down in the post.

We hit up another bar called Bollywood Bliss. It was by far one of the most interesting spots in all of Sosua. It's a restaurant / club installed and operated by Guyanese folk. We had some damn good drinks there (including a drink called the Mother Fucker) and talked to some of the people who ran the business. Out of everybody I met who worked in Sosua, these people seemed to be the most positive. Of course, these guys seemed to see Sosua more as a paradise than a whoring destination, so that might be why. While we're in the bar, we also chat it up with an older white lady who owns one of the Italian restaurants in the area. She was insisting a little too hard that we come by her place of business one night for drinks. We give her false promises that we would.

On a Saturday night, we went clubbing. We started at Club 59 (formerly Classico's). One of my friends had a pretty girl from Bailee's accompanying him. It was interesting. A few of the girls I saw hanging out at Bailee's were selling their services at the club as well. Frankly, outside of the loud music and the decor, there wasn't much difference between Bailee's and Club 59. Actually, I take that back. The girls at 59 weren't that good-looking. The best-looking girls (factually speaking) were the waitresses. Some of those waitresses were smoking, but all business.

We bounce from Classico to head to the casino, as my friend's girl insists it's where the party is at nowadays. We get to the casino and. It's dead. The club is completely dead. There's some action going on at the tables, but the club inside the casino is empty. There was actually a chica sleeping in one of the corner booths, that's how empty it was. Contrary to what some people here say, this casino wasn't alive after midnight. We head back to the main strip and go to Blue Ice.

Now Blue Ice was interesting. For those unfamiliar, it's a hookah lounge / strip club. As we were drinking, we saw a few girls walking around dressed in skimpy lingerie and literally doing lap dances out on the club floor. It was a good deal of fun. Honestly, this place seemed more like a spot for "locals" than for mongers. A few people were celebrating their birthdays inside the club with table service. I actually recognized one of the girls inside the club as a Bailee's girl. But she was dressed in civilian clothing. As soon as she saw me, she immediately turned her head and avoided eye contact for the rest of the night LOL.

Next, we hit up Bar Centrale. This place is a low-rent version of Bailee's. An open-air joint dripping with mediocre women. Some of the women were all too happy to see us for whatever reason. Regardless, we didn't stay long and instead opted to go back to Club 59.

We tried to go to the second floor area of Club 59, but the security personnel insisted that we pay for admission. Considering there was only 40 minutes left before closing. Fuck that. We left and decided to call it a night.

- Restaurants.

We ate too many meals at Bailee's LOL. I wish we would have tried more restaurants while we were there, but Bailee's was too much fun. And their food would usually hit the spot. The pizza, the salads, the pollo dishes, the spaghetti bolognese. All good stuff.

That being said, we did visit a number of restaurants around the area. I know I said this before, but Hotel Alicia has a fantastic breakfast. It was really the best food I had the whole trip. Kudos to the people there for the way they cook.

Hotel El Rancho is weird. Lots of German food. I'm guessing it's owned by a German ex-pat. FFS, give the place a German name and advertise it properly.

We also ate at a really nice restaurant overlooking Playa Alicia. It was a place clearly catering to tourists. Proper decor, professional waiters, good napkins. The food there was solid.

One late night, I ordered some veggie pizza from the pizza shop right next to Hotel Alicia. I got to admit, I was pleasantly surprised. Pizza came out well. It reminded me of some of the pizza from the cheaper joints here in New Jersey.

Got some frozen yogurt from Bon. If you have a sweet craving, the yogurt should cure that very quickly.

We went to Flip Flop's (popular Youtuber / expat) restaurant to indulge in some wings, burgers, and tacos. Food was pretty solid. The batter for the chicken wings is prepared a little differently from the way batter is made here in the States. But I did enjoy the wings nonetheless. Best part of the whole restaurant were the sassy af waitresses. Never have I met waitresses who were so charming despite half-assing their way through the entire service LOL. I met Flip too. Flip was nice, though he didn't really stay to chat with me. Then again, I'm pretty sure it's because he thought I was high af given how red my eyes were.

One thing worth noting. The prices here are stupid for Sosua. It's clear the locals are price-gouging for gringos. Yes, food and drink is still cheaper than prices here in the US. But not much cheaper. Which is bullshit. I don't mind paying a premium, but don't force me to pay double / triple for what is average bar food that's been precisely curated for American taste buds.

- Girls.

Yeah, the girls are why we come here. So let me talk about all 6 girls I ended up schtupping during my trip. One quick note. I relied on Tinder for some of my girls. Holy hell. Tinder was just easy mode. I was getting blasted with likes every ten minutes. The funny thing is that when I was using Tinder the week before in passport mode, I was only getting like a fifth of the likes. But when I landed and I was able to use Tinder in a local capacity, the women wouldn't stop blowing up my phone through Tinder. I get it, it's not like these women are genuinely attracted to me, they're just trying to make money. But this experience was kinda eye-opening. Now I understand what it feels like to be a woman using Tinder in the States. No wonder my Tinder stats suck in America. If I was a woman who had to filter through dozens of men showering me with likes, I'd pick the 5 or 6 hottest people and chat them up. Anyway, that's what I ended up doing here in the DR really. Every time I opened the app, I just started conversing with the 4-5 hottest women in my likes queue.

Chica #1, I met inside the K-lo-k bar during the daytime. I honestly didn't want this girl, but my friend was horny for her friend, so I decided to take this one as well as a dry run for the real talent that would come later in the trip. She was all right. I asked her if 5000 would be all right and she immediately agreed. It dawned on me that I probably could have gone much lower and she'd still agree. Damn. Whatever though. She was willing to suck my pipudu raw without much prodding, which is tragically a big deal in Sosua. She did try rushing me during sex ("leche leche papi" so that turned me off and I was unable to finish. Not a big deal. She wanted me to come out and spend some more time outside with her afterwards, but I told her nope, I got to shower, LOL.

Chica #2, I picked up from Bailee's. She was a good-looking, fair-skinned Venezuelan woman wearing a tight business-appropriate skirt. I was turned on just watching her walk around the place, so I had to approach her. But when I first started talking to her, she was a bit shy. It's probably an indication that she wasn't feeling me, but because the rain was so intense outside, we actually ended up spending a good deal of time together talking before heading back. As we were walking back to the hotel, the rain was pouring and she wouldn't stop whining about her goddamn shoes. I was just about ready to give up on her. Then the rain slowed down a bit and that gave her the courage to finish walking the remaining 100 steps to my hotel smh.

Anyway, she showers and takes off her clothes and she looks absolutely smoking. Wow. I might be regretting not going to Colombia instead. We cuddle for a bit before settling down for some action. Everything was unfortunately covered. Nevertheless, it was a fantastic time. She took the long strokes like a champ. I had a great time with her. I gave her 5000 pesos + tip.

Chica #3, I met off Tinder. Another light-skinned Vennie. She was using old pictures tragically. Those pictures on Tinder were taken years ago before she had kids. I'd still say she was above average though, so I took her up to my room. She was a surprisingly good time. Out of all the girls I had on this trip, she was the most GFE. She was willing to kiss (although with limited tongue) and she was more than happy orally pleasing my pipudu without a condom. The sex itself was pretty passionate. We damn near broke the bed a couple times.

We also managed to talk a little bit, as she knew a bit of English. Lovely girl and devoted mother. You wouldn't think she was a sex worker, but the line between civilians and professional working women is incredibly blurred here in the DR. I gave her 6000 pesos and let her be on her way. We ended up seeing each other again the day after. The second time, she was running late and she looked a bit too sloppy for my liking. Clearly she was running from place to place. We still fucked, but it wasn't nearly as satisfying as the day before. I asked if she'd be cool with me filming, but she shot me down quick. We finished up and I paid her another 6000 pesos to send her on her way.

Chica #4 was a banging spinner with lovely tits that I picked up from Bailee's. Worked out a deal with her for 5000 pesos and took her back to the hotel. This was the worst experience. Not because she was bad looking or anything. She looked fine. But her being smaller, she struggled handling the pipudu, even though I warned her beforehand I was bigger than normal. But she told me (and I quote) "I enjoy the pain". Sadly. That was a lie.

On top of that, she gave a very half-assed blowjob and even had the gall to charge me extra for that. But the worst part of the whole experience. She demanded the money be placed on a drawer upfront. I can tell she's been screwed over before in the past, likely because of her bad service and terrible attitude. She came into the whole experience a little paranoid and on edge. I told her she sucked at what she did and she was like "no, baby, I want you to have fun" and proceeded to try to jack me off to finish. I told her to just take a shower and leave.

Chica #5 was another Vennie girl from Tinder. And in continuing a long Venezuelan tradition, she was smoking as fuck. And a bit firey. It's been awhile since I've been with a woman who liked to take charge in the bedroom. It wasn't like she was domineering or anything, but I liked the way she tried to gently choke me at times as she was riding me. She was a fun time. And she worked hard, even though I couldn't give her the leche she wanted. It was still a damn good time. I gave her 6000 pesos. And I'm probably going to see her again when I come back to the DR.

Chica #6 was a dark-skinned chick from Tinder. I liked the way she was tatted up and I was hoping all those tats would indicate that she's freakier in bed. But unfortunately, it didn't. I did have to pay 500 pesos to her cab driver / pimp for shuttling her to the hotel. She was a decent time, but ultimately very forgettable, outside of the fact that she kept telling me I need to have some kids at my age LOL. I told her I'll have kids with her one day and that finally shut her up.

- My thougts-.

Overall, chicas were all right. The hype for the DR women is overblown. They're just not GFE. It's tough to get some of them to even agree to BBBJ. On top of that, no kissing and no filming. I had some women in other Latin American countries that were down to do that, but over here, the DR chicks are strict. I sense some of them have had negative experiences with the type of men that have been coming there for the past decade, so they're much more reserved than I expected.

One guy here said it best. Unless you can speak the language and bond with these women, you're probably better off going to an FKK. The mediocre sex to be had in these places doesn't quite justify the time and money spent taking the trip.

I'm probably coming back once I learn more Spanish. I feel like I can have a much better time once I can communicate effectively with the women. And I do want to make that happen, if only so I can finally live the DR experience I've been expecting now for quite awhile.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3051061]No idea. Nobody wants to post anything about chicks. But from the video there appears they do want you to know there are plenty of dudes to assist you in your "cama"raderie needs.[/QUOTE]Nsugen just dropped a good report. Still sounds like it is the same sosua as I know 2 years ago when I went a few times. Sigh. But I will drop a small report on what I see when I go soon.

[QUOTE=Nsugen;3051079]I'm probably coming back once I learn more Spanish. I feel like I can have a much better time once I can communicate effectively with the women. And I do want to make that happen, if only so I can finally live the DR experience I've been expecting now for quite awhile.[/QUOTE]Great reports. Good luck with your Spanish. Might be a good idea to learn some Dominican while you are at it!

I'm dropping a massive report soon.

10,000 to 20,000 words in length.

Various adventures, stories, analysis, and final recommendations. Also deep dives into the entire sex trade industry that I've realized during my time in Sosua.

Can anyone verify for me how long can 1 post be on here. I want to know if I can post the entire report in one go please. If someone can let me know. Thank you.