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[QUOTE=Gangles; 1263508]One pinay, Miss R, took one, OK, with quite a lot of grunting and huffing, so I slowly slipped in a second. By now she was panting, grunting, continuous mantra of f*ck me. F*ck me. So I proceeded to slip in a third finger. By this time my hand is distorted, and a bit painful, but she was right off the planet. So I figured another development, rolled her onto her back. 3 fingers still in, and proceeded to give her a very vigorous two finger G-spot massage. She was off the planet, howling, convulsing. By this time my anal hand had lost all circulation, so I slowly extracted one finger at a time, and brought us both back to earth.

She wrapped herself around me, very tightly, I guess just letting the sensation stay with her for as long as possible. Wow.

G[/QUOTE]Holy shi'ite, Batman! That left me breathless! A Field Report, in the General Info section? Warn me next time! (and post more haha)

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1263640]Well, then why does it say you are a Regular member, with only 4 posts?[/QUOTE]Westcoast I truly enjoy your posts. They are amazing! Asian Rain also and others!

The question that was asked was why I don't pay my $19. 95 not why I don't post. I believe you get to be a senior member after 25 posts regardless of if you pay the $19. 95 (Jackson maybe you should consider changing the rules).

With that said I live in the US and seldom get to travel. I am somewhat active (post) on the USA site in the Los Angeles, OC sections. I do have an opportunity to visit PI later this month and was hoping to get some hints pointers. I did not expect such an unfriendly response. Looking back at my post I should have toned it down.

Yours!

I am making my first trip to the Philippines in a few months. I have quite a bit of travel under my belt to Japan and China, but always have wanted to partake in the mongering paradise of PI. Many years in the hobby have made me bored and a little jaded with the standard short-term session with a pro thing. Honestly, out of the hundreds of encounters I've had over the years, I remember only a few of them. What made these special were at least one of the following: (1) exceptional beauty or body, (2) some amazing skill set way above the norm, (3) personal chemistry and emotional attachment that made it special. I'll have just a few days for playtime in Manila when I'm not working. The easy thing to do would be to hit some of the well-publicized bars. However, I thought I'd give DIA a chance. Here's my report.

I put up a profile a couple of weeks ago. I don't feel comfortable posting a real pic of myself for general circulation. Instead I found a photo online for a reasonable facsimile of me and posted that. I sent them a real pic after I got to know them, and all but one of them understood and seemed fine with it. I don't want to hurt any young lady by pretending that I have long-term boyfriend potential. I just stated that I'm there for a short time and just want to go out on the town with a nice lady. I got flooded with interest-maybe 30 in the first week but it has slowed down since then. I weeded out the ones looking only for husbands, those that were too old or too homely, and a few obvious scams. (The scams didn't show up until after more than a week of exchanging messages. These guys are good.) I also politely backed away from a couple who seem to have fallen in love with me. I have a working list now of 2 ladies in their late 20s. One admits to kids and one says she's a widow without children. Both are very attractive, and we've had some flirty video chats. I'm careful to keep away from explicit talk. They say that a lot of guys go right to the sex-talk or want to wave their privates around in front of the camera. Both of them seem to really appreciate being courted and flattered, treated like a woman. Still, it's pretty clear to me that I could expect a great time with either of them when we meet. The widow strikes me as horny and deprived beyond belief. I'm also working with 3 super cute babes in the 20-23 age range. I've been able to check out all of these women through Facebook pages and of course video chat. Again, there's not been any explicit talk, just flirting. Again, I'd wager that by the time I get there, at least one of them will give me strong signs that a payoff would be in order. I'll of course report back when I actually meet these women. We can see then if my intuitions are right.

DIA is not for those who just want quick action. It's very time consuming. I think it's for those who think the flirting and chatting is part of the experience and enjoy it. Personally, I like the idea of slowly over time building rapport and excitement, so there's a lot of anticipation when we finally meet. I'm hoping for something like a real girl-friend experience.

I do have some questions for the members who are old hands at DIA. I'm wondering if the women pretty much know that if they meet a foreigner, that sex is expected. The young ones I'm cultivating seem to need money. They are students or are looking for jobs. Is there an understanding that things will need to move pretty quickly to consummation without a lot of wining and dining? And is it a given that the young poor ones will receive compensation? The two I'm chatting in their 20s have good jobs, and I think are in DIA more for excitement than for money. I could be wrong about that.

Finally, has anyone used the Pinaylove site? I'm wondering if it's worth the effort. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Wazoo;1264327]I do have some questions for the members who are old hands at DIA. I'm wondering if the women pretty much know that if they meet a foreigner, that sex is expected. The young ones I'm cultivating seem to need money. They are students or are looking for jobs. Is there an understanding that things will need to move pretty quickly to consummation without a lot of wining and dining?[/QUOTE]How fast you move from first Hello, to taking of her panties depends a lot on how pro they are. If you are done with the KongKing sniffing phase, you reduce the amount of time needed. Because time is what it takes if they are not somewhat used to trading sex for money. They need to feel safe with you, and safety is familiarity. Familiarity comes through the investment of time. Nothing of this is relevant for professionals or what is often refereed to as "semi-pros" (that is in fact just professionals that still have a fairly decent attitude). They know the deal already.

I met a 19 year old chat friend that was quite pretty. Three-four kilos to much but nice face and good size tits. We chat a couple of times before I met her, and just for a few minutes so not a well founded meeting but I had time to kill and wanted to reload. After a 10 minutes meal of Kitten & Rice I asked her to come with me to see a friend. I spent about half an hour talking to my mate (another ISG member) and ten I asked miss teen if she wanted to come with me to the hotel to see the room, before her curfew kicked in."Ok just for one hour and no sex". I was going out later anyway so I did not care, but once in the room my little head took control and I asked her if I could at least kiss her. A lot of disclaimers and then a kiss. And another. And some tit squeezing. This girl never met a foreigner before and had all sorts of ideas about us (most where true) and she was very clear about not having sex. After a few more minutes of kissing and laughing I guided her hand to my Andros spear and helped her to take it out.

She was once again going on about not taking it in her little vagina and I said,"sure I promise we will not have sex, but you can maybe make me feel good with your hand for a while?" And she started (continued) to jerk my dick. Not good but she was a quick learner. After a few minutes it was time for the "try kissing it, baby". She looked at me a bit puzzled and I guided her head down to my cock and slowly helped her to suck it and jerk it at the same time. She was such a cute young girl learning to suck cock, so even if I was on my last days of the trip, it did not take long before I offloaded massively in her little mouth. In pure surprise she swallowed twice and then looked at me with glassy eyes and smiled confused. I made her "kiss" off some more cum, before it was time to get dressed so she could go home to her waiting mummy. While dressing we chit chatted about her not wanting to have sex on the first date because she only had sex once before and wanted to get to know me first. She apologized and I said "Oh, no worries baby no need to stress that. Sex comes when you feel ready for it". It was as if nothing had happened. She had still cum around her mouth, when she explained and apologized for wanting to go slow forward. I paid for her taxi, but since we did not have sex that was all she got. Next time maybe I get luckier. LOL.

So the moral of this is;

- Do not make the girl have to say "yes". Invite her for whatever stupid idea you can come to think of.

- Do not ask. Just do, and pretend as if you are asking.

- If needed, pretend as if she is not doing what she is doing.

- Once you are done, pretend as if nothing happened and make a date for the next time it is time to "look at the room". If you pay her, you pay for whatever else but sex.

Little miss teen will be thoroughly introduced to some more of the foreign culture next time we meet, but rest assure that "we will not have sex until we are serious or even married".

B.

[QUOTE=Wazoo;1264327]Finally, has anyone used the Pinaylove site? I'm wondering if it's worth the effort. Thanks![/QUOTE]Sounds to me like you already have enough on your plate. 4-5 possibilities should be enough with a few extra phone numbers.

I'm currently on Tagged lining up a few pinay for my next visit. 2-3 weeks of rapport building is enough I think. Enough for 2 dates a night, one early on which if it crashes you have the backup. If the former works out, just text and cancel the latter date.

Also, be careful of arrival dates. They always want to know exact day of arrival. I give them 2-3 days after my actually arrival and then bring them in 1-2 days earl. Saves them all trying to hunt you down on Day 1.

Have a great trip.

AJ

[QUOTE=Wazoo; 1264327]. SNIP. .

DIA is not for those who just want quick action. It's very time consuming. I think it's for those who think the flirting and chatting is part of the experience and enjoy it. Personally, I like the idea of slowly over time building rapport and excitement, so there's a lot of anticipation when we finally meet. I'm hoping for something like a real girl-friend experience. .[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed post Wazoo about your experiences and impressions.

I don't agree with your definitive statement that "DIA is not for those who want quick action." and I think some of my brothers in arms here will agree.

Your "softly-softly" flirt and court approach may (and may NOT) work but you will not know until you actually arrive and meet her in person (if she turns up).

There are many stories in the forum about guys who had pre-visit flirtations like you only to find that the girls backed out when they actually arrived or suddenly became different to the one that you chatted with.

Many guys (and you will read about it here on the forum) do not use DIA [B]until they actually arrive[/B] . They then go hard at girls who are online and close to where they are staying. Invariably they end up with a companion turning up within an hour or two of initial contact.

For those of us who live here (like me) , we have the benefit of using both approaches. I think most of us agree that you can start communicating with a woman too far in advance of your trip. Long drawn out chats / exchanges raise their expectations that you are very genuinely interested in them as potential partners. Filipinas are very romantic and your extended courtship may well raise a few perils for you if you are not at all interested in any serious relationships. I have no doubt that you have told them you are only interested in fun and nothing serious but they will disregard that because your intensive and regular contact / flirting with them is telling them a completely different story.

RK and Wazoo,

There is a thread on ISG Philippines dedicated to the exact topic you are discussing. It is called "chat rooms and pen pals", and has been pretty popular since I requested the new topic.

X

[QUOTE=X Man; 1264412]RK and Wazoo,

There is a thread on ISG Philippines dedicated to the exact topic you are discussing. It is called "chat rooms and pen pals", and has been pretty popular since I requested the new topic.

X[/QUOTE]Point taken X Man. I should have cut and pasted my response across to the Chat Room thread.

I don't know what Wazoo was thinking when he posted here in Gen. Info.

Probably the same as me when I replied LOL.

[QUOTE=Martybreger;1259157]I have been on the USA site for years, but I am new here and would like to explore what the rest of the world has to offer. I am partial to Asians and have begun RTFF. Recently I posted an add on Thai Love Links and Filipino Cupid (they are sister services). I put virtually the same photos, profiles and other info on both. I am getting almost no response on the Thai site, but tons on the Filipino site. Any comment as to why. I would appreciate it.[/QUOTE]You observations are normal, Thai women have on average a hell of alot more class. Pinays sell themselves way way short.

Thais ROCK!

PP

[QUOTE=Wazoo;1264327]I do have some questions for the members who are old hands at DIA. I'm wondering if the women pretty much know that if they meet a foreigner, that sex is expected.[/QUOTE]Nope, it is NOT expected. In my younger days I assumed it was, and invited out several girls without discussing the sex question beforehand. Often such encounters end with you entertaining and feeding the girl and her chaperones (tagalong friends who will pop up unannounced) and at the end of the night they go home, or even worse, sleep with you with all their clothes on!

DIA is full of all kind of critters, from curious schoolgirls with way too much time to waste, to single mums with no education hunting for prince charming, to hardcore prostitutes.

I met all types, at one extreme there are girls who are ready to roll within 5 minutes of chat, and they'll be naked in your hotel within 1 hour, and on the other extreme I met girls who would not take their panties off before seeing a shiny wedding ring on their finger, no matter how much they like the guy.

Assumption is the mother of all fuckups!
Do not assume anything! If you expect sex, discuss it before you meet up.

It has been mentioned elsewhere but a few guys have PM'ed me about the Easter break.

Just about everything will be closed on Thursday and Good Friday, April 5 and 6.

All malls will be closed all day. On Good Friday in particular, you will find that EVERYTHING is closed so you will need to stock up on supplies in advance.

The Government has proclaimed April 7 (Saturday) as a non-working holiday too (which means people asked to work on that day will be entitled to higher rates). Malls will be open on Saturday.

To add another note about Easter, this is the time of the year when all the trabahadores go back to their chicken coops in the province, so expect the interstate roads to be a nightmare if you are going for a trip. Driving out at 1am is recommended!

Wazoo, I have mentioned before that IMHO starting on DIA months before a trip is a terrible idea. As you have found out, you are running out of things to talk about and the girls are losing interest. I realize that a lot of forum members have nothing better to do than chat up girls on DIA and fantasize about their upcoming trips. This trip I put my profile up about two and a half weeks before traveling. Next trip I will pull that back to a week. I think that a little self control and waiting will give better results.

[QUOTE=Wazoo;1264327]I do have some questions for the members who are old hands at DIA. I'm wondering if the women pretty much know that if they meet a foreigner, that sex is expected. The young ones I'm cultivating seem to need money. They are students or are looking for jobs. Is there an understanding that things will need to move pretty quickly to consummation without a lot of wining and dining? And is it a given that the young poor ones will receive compensation? The two I'm chatting in their 20s have good jobs, and I think are in DIA more for excitement than for money. I could be wrong about that.[/QUOTE]I have been using DIA and another site to meet filipinas for my trip coming up in a couple months. I agree its very time consuming and can get confusing chatting so many different girls. I am the same as you in regards to enjoying the anticipation and excitement of building the relationship before you arrive. This will be my 3rd trip to Phil and I was very successful on my previous trips. Every filipina I met with I took on a date and then we went back to the hotel and had sex. I did not tell them I expected sex but I did chat a little naughty with them previously and gave suggestions and hints on what I would like to do.

Filipinas are very romanic and sexual so its almost a given that a sexual encounter will happen if they like you unless they are saving themselves for marriage or have another agenda. Here are a few things I do to increase the chances of sex on the first meeting.

At some point in our chats I talk about sex and explain to them that I'm nice but also naughty. By their response you can get an idea what their level of naughiness is. Even the good girls are horny so don't be afraid you will offend them. If they are a prude then you don't want to go on a date with them anyway.

I also explain that I will be bringing sexy lingerie for them and I want them to model it for me. Their response will give you an idea if sex is on the menu. I don't give them the gift of sexy lingerie until we return to the hotel room after the date. To me there is nothing more sexy than a hot young non p4p filipina that you just met model sexy lingerie in your hotel room.

I have 3 different catagories I put the girls I'm chatting with in.

1. Very naughty filipina! (I don't take these girls out for nice dinners or spend alot of money on them. I make it clear to them that we will fuck)

2. Pretty, young and open for fun. (These are regular girls that are not playgirls and are looking for a boyfriend and are open for fun)

3. Age between 23 and 30, Educated, Beautiful, Tall, No kids (These are the girls I'm searching for as a potential mate. I have not chatted as naughty with these girls because they won't put up with it. I have tested their naughtiness some but will need to meet them in person to see how it goes.)

thanks for everyone for these extremely helpful responses. i didn't know about the chat room thread-so my apologies there. i'll take a good long read.

i agree that i'm starting way too soon. originally i had planned to go next month so i started making the contacts. i got about 20 on my "possible" list and winnowed them down to about 10. then all at once my business plans ran into a major screw-up, so the trip got put off a few months. i made my dia account inactive, but i already had initiated contact with several girls. i sent them all notes and most bowed out. i'm thinking these were the semi-pros and pros who don't want to invest much time in me. but 5 of them continue to contact me for i'm and video chat: #1 is a super cutie about 20 who is looking for work. i think she's just bored. #2 is a young 20s massage therapist who is flat out gorgeous and a real live wire, but she says she's looking for a husband this year. #3 is a late 20s widow with a beautiful face and some obvious pent up needs. #4 is a late 20s single mom with a professional job. this one is not beautiful but is very sexy and has a totally sensual mind. she's the one out of the bunch i don't want to let go. she's also the one sure thing. she's already offered to on a beach vacation with me when i get there. #5 works in an upscale makati hotel frequented by a lot of you guys. she wants to organize my tour for me and has promised good deals on everything. she's not much to look at but is very sweet. i'm thinking that i should not stay in her hotel or i'll get no privacy at all. she'll be at my hotel room door every night when her shift ends.

so, my guess is that all but #4 will die on the vine, and i just hope i can keep #4 going without us both burning out before i get there. yes, you guys are right: i started too soon. and the point is well taken that if i invest months of video chats, i'll look more serious than i am. i should cool it.

thanks again!