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BroScience
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2441875]Sounds like bro science. Ask Tommy Morrison and magic Johnson if you can get HIV from girls. There is only one way to know for sure. Give them a FDA approved HIV instant test. Its 30 bucks which isn't bad if you have a decent bankroll. I only plan on going bareback with my regular when I arrive in Medellin so it won't be too bad for me.[/QUOTE]Thanks for calling this out; I'm glad I wasn't the only one not buying that bullshit. No offense, but not going to risk potentially getting HIV based off some rando on a sex board saying it's for gays only. Would rather use of these for girls when going TLD / TLN so I can bareback for hours. $40 is worth peace of mind 10 x over.
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[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2441875]Sounds like bro science. Ask Tommy Morrison and magic Johnson if you can get HIV from girls.[/QUOTE]I am glad that you know that they are telling the truth.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2441875]There is only one way to know for sure. Give them a FDA approved HIV instant test. Its 30 bucks which isn't bad if you have a decent bankroll.[/QUOTE]Thank God the FDA is so honest and would never ever cash in on fear mongering. Obviously, you didn't watch the video on testing and how accurate or rather inaccurate it is.
Given that we had 24,000 people die of the flu last year and it kills you in weeks versus 13,000 who died of AIDS when it takes decades, why are you not doing influenza swabs?
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2442380]Given that we had 24,000 people die of the flu last year and it kills you in weeks versus 13,000 who died of AIDS when it takes decades, why are you not doing influenza swabs?[/QUOTE]Because a quick death is more tolerable and maybe the social stigma attached to having HIV versus having influenza?
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[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2442306]ased off some rando on a sex board saying it's for gays only[/QUOTE]I have not read anybody saying that. Do you know there is an anal sex thread on this board?
This is what he said.
[QUOTE=SeekingHead;2441529]if I know a chick is super high mileage such as a working girl or a stripper then I will use a condom, as there is a much greater risk[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2442420]I have not read anybody saying that. Do you know there is an anal sex thread on this board?
This is what he said.[/QUOTE]Didn't mean to come off rude there. Apologies if it did. It's just a serious illness that is lifelong and fatal eventually. I get it that the flu is also serious, but the average person gets the flu and recovers from it naturally most of the time. Whereas HIV is a long term medical treatment thing. Perhaps I'm being overly paranoid about it, but I would rather that, than be too nonchalant and end up with it.
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[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2442306]Thanks for calling this out; I'm glad I wasn't the only one not buying that bullshit. No offense, but not going to risk potentially getting HIV based off some rando on a sex board saying it's for gays only. Would rather use of these for girls when going TLD / TLN so I can bareback for hours. $40 is worth peace of mind 10 x over.[/QUOTE]A sexual health nurse told me not to do bareback, but if I was going to, it's safer for me to not cum inside the chica, as the spurts effectively open up the urethra to her fluid.
There is also the option of taking daily PrEP yourself which is possibly more reliable than testing the chica (because of the incubation period).
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[QUOTE=LeyenLouvain;2442581]A sexual health nurse told me not to do bareback, but if I was going to, it's safer for me to not cum inside the chica, as the spurts effectively open up the urethra to her fluid.
There is also the option of taking daily PrEP yourself which is possibly more reliable than testing the chica (because of the incubation period).[/QUOTE]Anyone tried PrEP here, and thoughts on it?
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[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2442540]I get it that the flu is also serious, but the average person gets the flu and recovers from it naturally most of the time. Whereas HIV is a long term medical treatment thing. Perhaps I'm being overly paranoid about it, but I would rather that, than be too nonchalant and end up with it.[/QUOTE]It is not that your being nonchalant. The CDC deliberately misled people to increase its funding. They paid to advertise heterosexual AIDS. They put a cute blonde on TV who said, "if I can get AIDS, anyone can. " It turns out she was shooting up IV drugs.
They put a preacher's son on who said the same thing. It turns out he was gay. Hell, you had the head of the CDC admitting that there was no downside to inflating the number of AIDS cases. In fact within the CDC itself there was a discussion on scaring the shit out of everyone or targeting gays and IV drug addicts who really needed the education. They went with the former, and it worked their funding went through the roof. Again, it amazes me that people will believe corporations will do anything for money, but government for some reason won't. I do not get that logic.
If someone has to do testing so they feel more comfortable going bare, have at it but just understand what it is. It is the CDC scaring the shit out of everybody, and it is an emotional decision. Logically speaking, you could test for hundreds of diseases with a much better transmission rate. Nobody knows anybody here who personally has gotten AIDS via heterosexual transmission. Hell, the brothels in Nevada have never had a documented case of transmission. So why is everyone so paranoid of AIDS? Because of the CDC's bullshit. I am not making fun of people here. I am just amazed that their bullshit campaign has had such legs.
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Your chances of HIV from barepack vaginal sex are extremely low, but you're virtually certain to get warts and / or herpes.
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[QUOTE=YyzTravel;2442540]Didn't mean to come off rude there. Apologies if it did. It's just a serious illness that is lifelong and fatal eventually. I get it that the flu is also serious, but the average person gets the flu and recovers from it naturally most of the time. Whereas HIV is a long term medical treatment thing. Perhaps I'm being overly paranoid about it, but I would rather that, than be too nonchalant and end up with it.[/QUOTE]I don't think you are rude. He was making a comparison about risk, and he did not say there is no risk. He certainly has not said one can't get HIV from girls.
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[QUOTE=Nounce;2442674]...He certainly has not said one can't get HIV from girls.[/QUOTE]You can't (well, practically 0 . 04%.
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Let's say I bare back and they get pregnant and have the baby. Can they come after me for child support?
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[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2441875]Sounds like bro science. Ask Tommy Morrison and magic Johnson if you can get HIV from girls. There is only one way to know for sure. Give them a FDA approved HIV instant test. Its 30 bucks which isn't bad if you have a decent bankroll. I only plan on going bareback with my regular when I arrive in Medellin so it won't be too bad for me.[/QUOTE]You left out Eazy E!! When he died from AIDS I was shocked. He was in the hospital one day and then dead a week or 2 later. I remember doing clinicals back in the day in the imaging department at a hospital. A routine tests for HIV infected people were chest XRAYs. When they would come in, their chart would say why they were there so I got to see a lot of infected people. That's all it took for me. I saw so many beautiful girls that I would have barebacked without hesitation. One girl looked like a fuckin model. I thought fuck if she really wanted to she could be infecting all kinds of people. For me it's like anything else and you're rolling the dice. I rarely bareback unless I know the girl and even then it's not guaranteed. Bareback anal is my favorite but I have never done it with a provider. I think it's a numbers game. Obviously it's a numbers game and if you're barebacking hookers all the time then you're in for a treat.
On to the gays. I have a lot of gay friends. I am not sure if any others on here do but what I can tell you is that those fellas are reckless! You would not believe the stories I hear about the risky behaviors they get into. Bath houses, orgies with strangers, sex clubs having unprotected sex, grinder meet ups on the regular. These guys have no problem meeting a guy at the gay club and getting it on an hour later in the bathroom. A friend of mine was bent over one of the stalls in a bathroom and taken forcefully. He told me he enjoyed it and it was a regular thing in Europe. He was stationed there in the Air Force (Italy I think). When he got back to the states we would hang out at the gay clubs and then my eyes really opened up. I would get approached in the parking lot for sex. These guys had no limits. I can go on and on. Anyway I never hear about this kind of behavior in the straight community. Another thing I found bothersome was the amount of friends these guys had that had passed away from AIDS. It was like normal to some of them. Like the risk was worth it. More than once did I hear a man say that there is no better way to die than with a dick in your ass. So are gays more at risk because they do anal or because they have bath / steam houses where you can go in and have sex with strangers without even having to see their face? They never mention this kind of shit in the studies LOL.
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[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2442621]It is not that your being nonchalant. The CDC deliberately misled people to increase its funding. They paid to advertise heterosexual AIDS. They put a cute blonde on TV who said, "if I can get AIDS, anyone can. " It turns out she was shooting up IV drugs.
They put a preacher's son on who said the same thing. It turns out he was gay. Hell, you had the head of the CDC admitting that there was no downside to inflating the number of AIDS cases. In fact within the CDC itself there was a discussion on scaring the shit out of everyone or targeting gays and IV drug addicts who really needed the education. They went with the former, and it worked their funding went through the roof. Again, it amazes me that people will believe corporations will do anything for money, but government for some reason won't. I do not get that logic.
If someone has to do testing so they feel more comfortable going bare, have at it but just understand what it is. It is the CDC scaring the shit out of everybody, and it is an emotional decision. Logically speaking, you could test for hundreds of diseases with a much better transmission rate. Nobody knows anybody here who personally has gotten AIDS via heterosexual transmission. Hell, the brothels in Nevada have never had a documented case of transmission. So why is everyone so paranoid of AIDS? Because of the CDC's bullshit. I am not making fun of people here. I am just amazed that their bullshit campaign has had such legs.[/QUOTE]Quite a while ago I read a book written by a doctor who wrote all about the AIDS situation. He was in Africa interviewing people who had lost loved ones to AIDS. Many many times he found that the people really died of other causes. When he asked why they said it was AIDS instead of the truth he was told that they were told by the do gooders who were in the country to make the false claims as it would get them funding for the area. This doctor after his efforts to uncover the truth ended up never getting any funding for the different research grants he used to get. His main idea was it was the powerful drug AST that was killing people who had in his opinion had this harmless virus. He stated if one person had the AIDS virus and another person did not. If both contacted say a unrelated infection then the person who tested for Aids was given the drug AST while the other person was given normal treatment. He even injected himself with the virus to prove his point.
Now on the question of bareback sex I worry about herpes not AIDS.
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[QUOTE=Uthred;2442716]On to the gays. I have a lot of gay friends. I am not sure if any others on here do but what I can tell you is that those fellas are reckless! You would not believe the stories I hear about the risky behaviors they get into. Bath houses, orgies with strangers, sex clubs having unprotected sex, grinder meet ups on the regular. These guys have no problem meeting a guy at the gay club and getting it on an hour later in the bathroom. [/QUOTE]Well that is because they are guys. You see all the stuff that guys on here are saying they do with women and others are wondering if girls will do such and such with them. You don't have that problem with guy on guy because they both are already down to do all the shit anyway. I guess what I am trying to say is that the average guy (whether straight or gay) has less inhibitions than than the average woman.