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Kingmonger,
Remember this is P4P. They love your money not you.....if your young and attractive...sure that helps a little...but the bottom line is $$$ rules and that is what will make or break your experience....old & non attractive mongers usually pay more for good service but not all the time. It comes down to you knowing what the rates are and how not be taken advantage of.....you need to flip the script and take advantage of them....to an extent. If the business transaction is good on both sides then the experience tends to be better for all and it does not matter what race you are.
Do you really think you have to pay to leave a place when you did not get any service or taking a girl out? Wtf, really? That would be considered kidnapping/secuestro...lol
Go to Europe if you like Caucasian women. Almost all Colombians are Mestizos and the ones that are 100% white will not be working the industry and be anywhere near your hunting grounds.
0. If your spanish is horrible, I don't think you're going to be gaming anyone regardless. I've played in Tijuana and the Philippines as well, so I know where you're coming from.
1. Most of the chain hotels will charge a fee to bring in guests which are not registered. I recommend AirBnb. I would try to get someplace with a doorman as I've seen some ads specifically say they only go to buildings with doormen. This is probably better for your own safety as well.
2. There's plenty of strip clubs in Bogota, but from what I can tell, there is much less groping when compared to Tijuana (I was in Hong Kong many years, ago, so I can only compare from then). You're welcome to buy girls as many drinks as you want, the difference is that the drinks for girls tend to be the same price as your own drinks, so theres no surcharge. And hence maybe that's why there's less groping? Perhaps? Or more likely I think it may be a cultural difference. Most of the time when a girl sits down with you, she's trying to get you to take her to one of the private rooms. A common MO, is to go into a club and buy a bottle or a half bottle and invite girls to sit down with you and they just share your bottle. No requirement to buy a separate drink for her, unless she really doesn't like what your drinking. As for the comment about having to buy a bottle, I'd say that partially true. You may have to buy a bottle at very specific clubs or to get seated at in particular areas, but I've never been a place where I was required to purchase a bottle. A single beer is fine too.
3. From my experience, prices are usually accurate. But of course they're open to negotiation. I prefer they come to my place as I don't want to spend the time going to find whereever it is they work. That usually involves a small surcharge, maybe 20 k or so.
4. I've never been to swinger clubs. Cannot comment.
Enjoy yourself. Be safe. Improve your spanish as much as you can before you can. The better your spanish, the better your experience will be.
[QUOTE=SouthTravel;2169511]Been on this forum for a few years now, I have horrible Spanish, but somehow I usually get along. This will be my first time in Colombia, I've only ever played in Tijuana and the Philippines. I'm good looking, in my early 20's and could probably game girls down there, but that's not what I'm looking for on this trip. I have a few questions about how things work down there.
1: Should I stay in a hotel? How easy is it to bring escorts over, does anyone have any experience in this? Looking for a hotel under $40 us. Or should I just stay in a hostel or split it up. Also, is it easier to bring chicas to airbnbs vs hotel?(obviously not bringing to a hostel LOL).
2: Are the clubs like Hong Kong in Tijuana, where you can sit and watch someone stripping, buy a girl a drink and get unlimited touching? If you could describe what the clubs are like that would be awesome.
Someone was saying you have to buy a bottle, I like to drink, but not get too messed up unless I'm with group.
3: On photoprepagos are the prices usually the same as they are listed? Would you prefer they come to your hotel or you go to their apartment?
4: Could someone also explain swinger clubs in a little more detail, those sound fun.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KingMongerer;2169322]It seems like there are beautiful women of all types in Colombia but my preference is for white ladies. [/QUOTE]Then why would you be fooling around in Latin America, then? If you want white women, then go to Europe. If you want really white women, got to Eastern Europe. Latin America is full of all kinds of beautiful women of all shades. If you can only appreciate a fraction of their beauty, then you are wasting your time, and their time. In the meantime, stop calling yourself King Monger, when you appear to be completely inexperienced with this.
Routard did an Excellent post on Bogota, go back a read that you will know alot from his post.
[QUOTE=SouthTravel;2169511]Been on this forum for a few years now, I have horrible Spanish, but somehow I usually get along. This will be my first time in Colombia, I've only ever played in Tijuana and the Philippines. I'm good looking, in my early 20's and could probably game girls down there, but that's not what I'm looking for on this trip. I have a few questions about how things work down there.
1: Should I stay in a hotel? How easy is it to bring escorts over, does anyone have any experience in this? Looking for a hotel under $40 us. Or should I just stay in a hostel or split it up. Also, is it easier to bring chicas to airbnbs vs hotel?(obviously not bringing to a hostel LOL).
2: Are the clubs like Hong Kong in Tijuana, where you can sit and watch someone stripping, buy a girl a drink and get unlimited touching? If you could describe what the clubs are like that would be awesome.
Someone was saying you have to buy a bottle, I like to drink, but not get too messed up unless I'm with group.
3: On photoprepagos are the prices usually the same as they are listed? Would you prefer they come to your hotel or you go to their apartment?
4: Could someone also explain swinger clubs in a little more detail, those sound fun.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Uncazadorez;2169768]Do you really think you have to pay to leave a place when you did not get any service or taking a girl out? Wtf, really? That would be considered kidnapping/secuestro...lol.[/QUOTE]Not so funny because there are places like this. I guess it is all in how it is worded or presented though as to why it went over your head. In some casas in Medellin you have to pay 2 or 3 thousand pesos viewing fee after the girls are presented if you do not take one. You can buy a beer and that will cover it. Some places you can just walk out without buying anything or paying the fee and get away with it. Other places they will make a big stink about it.
At Fase 2 in Medellin you pay 10K pesos when you enter. In 4x4 in Rio there is an entrance fee of $20 that you pay WHEN YOU LEAVE. If you take a girl before 5pm then that entrance fee is waived. If you decide not to take a girl then you can not just leave without paying the $20. Same thing. Is it still so ridiculous when it is put this way? Just because you don't have to pay it as soon as you walk in the door does not mean you do not have to pay it at all.
I have used SA in Medellin and one lady in Bucaramanga (she was advertising in MDE). There are tons of girls in the MDE SA section, so I am assuming BOG has alot. Oh yeah I Did use one SA girl AND SHE WAS A SCAM. Maybe I was not clear. I wanted a beautiful lady that spoke English to show me a few places and sex. She spoke English well and we went out to the Montserrat church and then dinner. She wanted to get paid $300 K for that and I said no that price was for guide and sex. So just be clear or do not mix the two, just find a girl to come to your place.
In MDE I had at least 6-8 girls setup and I was looking for students, so my search results were smaller than just MDE. They were not the least expensive, but they were very pretty young chics and seemed innocent, not like hardened prepagos.
[QUOTE=HerryHot;2161823]Does anyone have a feedback on success rate of seeking arrangement in Bogota or Colombia in general?
Thanks, HH.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jbj64;2169829]Oh yeah I Did use one SA girl AND SHE WAS A SCAM. Maybe I was not clear. I wanted a beautiful lady that spoke English to show me a few places and sex. She spoke English well and we went out to the Montserrat church and then dinner. She wanted to get paid $300 K for that and I said no that price was for guide and sex.[/QUOTE]Don't leave us hanging. How did you settle it?
Bogota FR Part I.
This is my FR on my first ever trip to Bogota (and Colombia). Many thanks to members of the forum who provided information through pm. Of course Routard's FR acted as a reference guide for the whole tour.
Special thanks to TravelerBoss for providing contact of driver who helped him. He was indeed great and drove me around the entire trip. The overall cost may be higher than Uber, but he also acted as guide / driver / translator and took me to Santa Fe area which probably I would not have gone alone. My report below is based on my own experience and subject date and time of visits.
Day I:
Arrived at night, it took some time to clear the customers. Stayed at recommended place in Zona T area. By the time I was in room it was mid night. Decided to check out night club near by (Laos if I am not mistaken). It was Thursday night and there were around dozen girls. The drink costed me 45 mil. Girls were decent but not hot. Choose one who was giving me eye contact since I entered the club. Bought her drink. It was getting late for me so asked about joining me for the night. She quoted USD100. The manger came up with a bill of 300 mil including bar fine+drinks. The girl was sweet and tight, but service was not great. Slept after just one pop. She gave me her number. I was kind of ticked of by the push by the manger for drinks / choosing a girl and due to costs so decided to check out other options next day.
Day II.
It was Friday. Went to day clubs in Chapinero area around 11 am. Visited Chicas Milenio Calle 71 #14 A-24. I could not find exact address on google map so went with my driver. There were around 5 girls. One was hot but before I could juggle with my google translator and talk to the house lady she was picked by other customer. I took the other hot one. Was quoted 80 mil after some negotiation for HH. While in the room girl asked 50 mil more for DFK and boob sucking (with CBJ). Overall it was decent experience, but it was kind of quick, she was a true pro. Next moved to Chicas 2000 which is on opposite site. Only few girls were there but still found a good one. Rate card was on the board, took her for HH fat 35 mil. When in the room asked the girl to keep the change of 15 mil. She was happy and said she will provide extras (DFK+boob suck) in return. She was a true GFE. I really enjoyed DFK and she appeared relatively new and she got turned on herself. She did not apply any lube as the girl from other club. Overall it was a great VFM experience. Returned to hotel. In the evening met a girl I found on a dating site for coffee who spoke decent English. Moved back to room, had two rounds. Took her out for dinner at a fancy place which costed around 150 mil and passed her around 200 mil. I found I was missing around 300 mil from my wallet when I checked it next day. I am not sure if I dropped it or it was taken by the girl. We were trying to book Uber for going to dinner and my wallet was on the desk for some time. But I cannot say for sure. Learned my lesson to be careful for subsequent sessions. It was raining hard so decided to call it a day.
Day III:
It was Saturday. Got up fresh after nice dinner and plenty of wine last night. Started around 11 am from the hotel and went to Chicas Milenio. There were around five girls, and the hot one did not seem to be in mood as she did not make a good eye contact. So, took one from last visit. She quoted 80 mil extra for BBBJ. So, went with CBJ, DFK and boob suck for 50 mil extra. Went for some site seeing with the drive after this and returned to hotel for some rest in the afternoon. In the night started around 9 pm. Went to Pussy Club in Chapinero. It was full. As mentioned in earlier post the drink was cheap compared to other places. All hot ones were occupied, and I did not find any one to my liking so left after 1 hour. Next stop was La Forty Nine (La 49) Carrera 13 # 49-77. Reached there around 11 pm. I found the ambiance to be pretty good. More girls than customers. Drink costed around 30 mil. Took one from girl who was Venezuela and made eye contact all along. Bought her drink for 25 mil. We danced on second floor which was empty. She got me hard by her moves. She quoted 300 mil for room and said there was a minimum limit of three drinks before going to the room. Going by prices quoted on the forum, I felt I was being scammed so decided to leave. I felt the club has really nice atmosphere and if you want to take a girl and spend time dancing / talking.
I was already turned on so decided to visit Zona de tolerencia as I had my driver as local guide. Went to Troya but there was lot of police around the area and was told there was some issue going on inside the club. Hence my driver took me to some other club. The streets were very busy. I do not remember the name. Inside I found the atmosphere very live. Beer cost me 22 mil. Girls were hot and the waiter who knew my driver asked me if I want to talk to any girl. Suggested him one girl who I found hot but was not giving me any eye contact. Bought her a redbull for 15 mil. Went to room with her which costed me 80 mil. She allowed light kissing and overall it was a decent experience with a hot girl. Next, went back to Troya as situation there improved. Driver asked 10 mil tip / entry fee for the guard. He took me in and offered me a good seat. The club was full and there were lot of hot girls. The guard introduced me to a hot girl who was slightly chubby but good looking with nice assets and long hair. Bought her a drink for 20 mil and chatted with her for a while using google translator. She quoted 100 mil and promised good service. Took her upstairs and boy that was one heck of a PSE experience. I was really drunk by that point and having five pops in last 24 hours finding it bit hard to finish but she made sure I finish and finish well. She asked for 30 mil tip for the extra effort and had to tip 10 mil to cleaning lady per her suggestion. It was a great experience.
Bogota FR Part II.
Day IV:
On Sunday, saw another girl that I found from dating site. She was 23 years and said she was a college student. Met her at the nearby mall and took her for coffee. She did not speak any English so communicated using translator app. Went for some shopping and bought her gifts around 300 mil. We started kissing while going back to room and once in the room went wild. She was flexible and took good initiative. Had three pops including sex in shower and on the sofa, 69, DFK. Took her out for dinner as I was also hungry. I made a mistake of letting her choose the place which was in Zona T area and was expensive. With my limited search I could not find menus with prices for the restaurants in the area. Dinner plus wine came out to be 200 mil. At the end she asked some money for books so passed her 100 mil for taxi plus books. The tricky part was that she started getting sad and crying at the end of the dinner saying we are not going to see each other again because I was leaving soon. I was bit taken a back but tried to console her. While dropped her to her taxi she was kissing and hugging all the way. I started feeling bit sad myself but finally dropped her off. To cheer up myself visited Troya again. It was totally different atmosphere on Sunday. Took one Venezuelan girl who was again good PSE. Damage was 70 mil for room+drinks and some tip.
Day V:
On Final day rested still afternoon and went for some more site seeing. Decided to visit swinger club recommended by Routard in his great FR. Reached there around 5 pm on Monday. There were around five guys and couple of girls. I was bit nervous as this was my first visit to swinger place. The girls were working girls and there was no couple at that time. They made sure I felt welcomed even though I was only one who did not spoke any Spanish. Had some drinks and then some fun games in pool. After this the action started and one of the girl started stroking me and one other guy. The other girl left as she said she was not working on that day. She asked me to enter her and took the other guy by mouth, midway she took me her other hole as well. After me she started taking others one by one. I left soon after as it was getting late and I need to catch my flight. Girls there told me if I can come back on Wednesday they can introduce me to real swingers. On my way out, I saw a couple getting naked and they went to pool area. On the way to the airport stopped at Chicas 2000 and repeated earlier girl. She gave me her number on last visit and I contacted her on Sunday but she could not come to my hotel. She was texting me earlier in the day and seemed happy to see me again. It was a great GFE and VFM experience again. Still had some more time as flight got delayed so visited Troya. Found a hot girl as soon as I entered, she came over and started kissing lightly. Proceeded to room, she did a BBBJ and was a great PSE. Damage was 70 mil + 50 mil in tips for her and cleaning lady.
Overall it was a great experience in Bogota. I feel you can get both GFE and PSE at reasonable price here. I realized I may have overpaid on few occasions, but it was still worth it. I should have found out Bogota earlier. Well better be late than never I guess.
Thank you again to all seniors for there help with my trip.
Hey all,
Just a quick question.
I've seen places like Belo Horizonte, Brazil have notorious spots full of hotels that are filled with independent girls with ridiculously low prices, even by USD conversion standards. Each hotel cluster, a new group of girls. All quick, dirt cheap fixes. I'm wondering, are there any places in Bogota (or other parts of Colombia) like that?
Curious if it would be easy to ask for just BBBJ at the casas or strip clubs? Any experience and how you would say it in Spanish? My Spanish is poor and have wanted to ask in the past.
Use google translator: oral without condom, they will understand. Per my experience it should be available in most joints with additional charges. Ultimately it depends on comfort level of the girls, some of the girls just won't do it.
[QUOTE=AlhanMan;2171268]Curious if it would be easy to ask for just BBBJ at the casas or strip clubs? Any experience and how you would say it in Spanish? My Spanish is poor and have wanted to ask in the past.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AlhanMan;2171268]Curious if it would be easy to ask for just BBBJ at the casas or strip clubs? Any experience and how you would say it in Spanish? My Spanish is poor and have wanted to ask in the past.[/QUOTE]Yo quiero oral naturale. Esta bien o no?
That's how I asked and worked everytime.
You have to ask wherever you are. Once you decide on her make sure to ask all the explicit things before you pay.