American Politics

In light of the latest reports of Trump's politicization of the coronavirus outbreak that worked beautifully to ensure it would become the historic Trump's Pandemic it became and still is, let's recap this from the beginning.

Despite his rushing in too little too late in order to falsely claim some credit for what had been researched and planned for decades and only after the USA Stock market crashed in response to the mounting deaths from the already established Trump's Pandemic to merely "brand" the effort to produce vaccines for it as soon as humanly possible (an idea that Trump supporters here now consider shitty anyway), no world leader did more and worked harder than iconic Republican Party so-called potus Donald J. Trump to pave the runway as smoothly as possible for any roundly warned about and predicted potential deadly virus to spread unabated and develop into a worldwide economy-destroying Pandemic that, among its other horrific results, would in all its inevitable variations predictably cripple the entire point and purpose of this website for years to come if not forever:

[B]Exclusive: U.S. slashed CDC staff inside China prior to coronavirus outbreak[/B]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-cdc-exclusiv-idUSKBN21C3N5[/URL]

[B]Under Donald Trump, key CDC US staff in China fell to 0[/B]

[URL]https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/may/21/joe-biden/under-donald-trump-key-cdc-us-staff-china-fell-0/[/URL]

[QUOTE]According to the CDC, the program in China specifically charged with spotting new infectious diseases went from having four American staff in 2017 to none by 2019.[/QUOTE][B]Trump says China should have told us about coronavirus. He removed the official meant to do that.
A US epidemiologist was embedded with the Chinese CDC. The Trump administration discontinued the position[/B]

[URL]https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/3/23/21190713/coronavirus-trump-china-cdc-embed-quick[/URL]

Nobody on the planet did more and worked harder than iconic Republican Party so-called potus Donald J. Trump to make sure his colossal original sin blunder (see above) would be compounded and made immeasurably worse:

[B]Trump calls coronavirus Democrats' 'new hoax'[/B]

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-calls-coronavirus-democrats-new-hoax-n1145721[/URL]

[B]Trump says he trusts Chinas Xi on coronavirus and the US has it totally under control
(January 22, 2020)[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/22/trump-on-coronavirus-from-china-we-have-it-totally-under-control.html[/URL]

[B]Trump, downplaying virus, has mocked wearing masks for months.
He wore one as he headed to the hospital Friday afternoon.[/B]

[URL]https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-downplaying-virus-mocked-wearing-masks-months/story?id=73392694[/URL]

Nobody on the planet did more and worked harder than iconic Republican Party so-called potus Donald J. Trump to discourage anyone from bothering to waste their time and money inventing a vaccine for Trump's Pandemic Virus or to bother taking one if it was invented for no good reason anyway:

[B]'It's going to disappear':
A timeline of Trump's claims that Covid-19 will vanish[/B]

[URL]https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2020/10/politics/covid-disappearing-trump-comment-tracker/[/URL]

[B]Trump Baselessly Claims Coronavirus Will Go Away Without Vaccine[/B]

[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/trump-baselessly-claims-coronavirus-will-go-away-without-vaccine/[/URL]

[B]Trump Says Coronavirus Will be Over "Even Without the Vaccines"
(October 26, 2020)[/B]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcVIOujJLng[/URL]

And now this latest:

[B]Trump sought to 'undermine' COVID-19 response, says panel[/B]

[URL]https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/586287-house-oversight-report-trump-administration-sought-to-undermine-covid[/URL]

[QUOTE]...In interviews with officials and from uncovered emails and other documents, the committee found that the former administration failed to heed warnings about supply shortages, blocked public health officials from speaking publicly and neglected the pandemic response in order to focus on the 2020 presidential election and on promoting the lie that the election was "stolen" from Trump through widespread fraud.[/QUOTE][B]House oversight committee releases report detailing efforts of Trump administration officials to 'undermine' Covid-19 efforts in US[/B]

[URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/17/politics/house-committee-trump-covid-19/index.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]... The report also laid out how one briefing so angered former President Donald Trump that CDC officials were blocked by the Trump administration for more than three months from conducting public briefings.
One official, then-CDC National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases Director Dr. Nancy Messonnier, told the committee Trump was "angered" after she gave a briefing on February 25, 2020, that warned about the danger of Covid-19. She told the select subcommittee she felt "upset" after she received calls from then-CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield and then-HHS Secretary Alex Azar about it.
...
Another example of weakened guidance in the report is from Birx, who confirmed to the committee that Dr. Scott Atlas, a senior fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution, was involved in changing testing guidance to advise against testing most asymptomatic people even if they were exposed to the virus -- something the report said that is contrary to science-based recommendations. Trump brought on Atlas to the coronavirus task force after seeing him appear on Fox.

CNN has reached out to Atlas for comment.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2639054][B]Biden voters in 2020 general election: 91 percent vaccinated[/B]

[B]Trump voters in 2020 general election: 50 percent vaccinated[/B]

Looks like ScatManDoo was far closer than you were (he said 94% to 95% or so of Democrats were vaccinated and you said Republicans were 99 percent vaccinated). Remember, you yourself said "you can't make up crap and claim it is true. Why do you keep lying in your posts? Pretty much all of your posts are lies."[/QUOTE]You have an educated interpolative estimate.

Vs.

A right-wing disingenuousness claim.

Very common discord in American Politics.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2639617]In light of the latest reports of Trump's politicization of the coronavirus outbreak that worked beautifully to ensure it would become the historic Trump's Pandemic it became and still is, let's recap this from the beginning.

Despite his rushing in too little too late in order to falsely claim some credit for what had been researched and planned for decades and only after the USA Stock market crashed in response to the mounting deaths from the already established Trump's Pandemic to merely "brand" the effort to produce vaccines for it as soon as humanly possible (an idea that Trump supporters here now consider shitty anyway), no world leader did more and worked harder than iconic Republican Party so-called potus Donald J. Trump to pave the runway as smoothly as possible for any roundly warned about and predicted potential deadly virus to spread unabated and develop into a worldwide economy-destroying Pandemic that, among its other horrific results, would in all its inevitable variations predictably cripple the entire point and purpose of this website for years to come if not forever:[/QUOTE]Sometime next year, probably.

There will be more than 1 million Americans that can credit the end of their lives.

To TrumpShit.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2639568]Individually TrumpShit was a super spreader.

TShit tested positive for Codid-19 on September 26, 2020 and concealed the results for six days until he announced his infection on October 2nd.

For the six days that TShit lied about having Covid-19, he got steadily sicker and sicker and exposed over 500 people to his viral sliminess.

Including exposing Joe Biden on their first presidential debate show on September 29th.

That vaccine really does a great job. Before the vaccine many would have been goners, like Herman Cain.

Or really think about what you write.[/QUOTE]The biggest super spreaders is the open border illegals. Biden makes every legal person entering the USA to be vaccinated but millions of unvaccinated illegals can bring Covid into USA daily. I guess democrats can't get Covid from illegals but with this Biden policy Covid will never end and new viruses will be entering our country daily. Biden is killing Americans every day with his open border policy. All Biden voters can take credit for bringing Covid in every day and killing Americans.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2639547]I agree, and the vaccine worked great for the first 3 months. Then it seems like it did nothing at all. Do you remember Aaron Rogers getting blasted by the media for lying about being vaccinated? So he gets Covid and the last few weeks, he has played and never looks better. The media who skewered looks like shit now.

The notion was that Rogers was putting his teammates at risk. Ha! The NFL players were 94% immunized back in September [URL]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-pushing-closer-to-covid-19-vaccination-goal-all-but-5-teams-have-player-vaccination-rate-of-90-or-above/[/URL].

And now there are three games being postponed this week due to Covid outbreaks. [URL]https://nypost.com/2021/12/17/nfl-postpones-browns-rams-and-washington-games-amid-covid-surge/[/URL].

The only explanation left for the Democratic douches is all NFL players are Republicans and faked their vaccine cards!

So Biden knows the vaccines are shit. His claim that anything over 220,000 deaths per year is a failed presidency is now coming to bite him in the butt. Democratic douches like him publicized Trump's failure to stop a virus, which was a crock because Trump had nothing to do with viral spread, and he only has one card left, double down on blaming Republicans. So now every day it is the same crap in the liberal media: It's all Republicans fault Covid is not gone! He is banking on the fact that no one looks beyond USA borders to see Covid is raging there..[/QUOTE]Great post. Incompetent presidents have no strategy, do nothing and blame past presidents. The problem is that Biden has no clue. Trump didn't blame Obama for hurting the American way of life. He just changed the policies and regulations and made America great again. The next president will have the same task of fixing America again after Biden.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2639054][URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/nbc-news-poll-shows-demographic-breakdown-vaccinated-u-s-n1277514[/URL]

[B]Biden voters in 2020 general election: 91 percent vaccinated[/B]

[B]Trump voters in 2020 general election: 50 percent vaccinated[/B]

Looks like ScatManDoo was far closer than you were (he said 94% to 95% or so of Democrats were vaccinated and you said Republicans were 99 percent vaccinated). Remember, you yourself said "you can't make up crap and claim it is true. Why do you keep lying in your posts? Pretty much all of your posts are lies."[/QUOTE]This poll came up with the same 91% for democrats this time (not a measure of those who voted fro Joe Biden).

But it came up with 60% of all republicans.

Because they were including some of the smarter republicans.

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/17/counties-voted-trump-higher-covid-death-rate[/URL]

The best part of my poll and article, is that it has a lot more coverage on death patterns. Yummy.

"the gap in Covid's death toll between "blue" states that vote mostly Democratic and "red" states that vote mostly Republican this fall widened more quickly than at any previous point of the pandemic.

A total of 25 out of every 100,000 residents in counties that voted for Donald Trump died of Covid in October, compared with the 7. 8 per 100,000 in counties that voted heavily for Biden, according to the data analysis from the Times."

We are living in great times. Survival of the fittest!

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2639861]Sometime next year, probably.

There will be more than 1 million Americans that can credit the end of their lives.t.[/QUOTE]Facts will show that 350,000 died under Trump when there was no vaccine and 1,000,000 died under Biden incompetence with 3 vaccines.

With around two more hours till show time.

SNL announced the show will go on tonight, but without a live audience.

There will also be a smaller amount of crew on hand, due to Covid.

Which will result in the cancelling of musical guest Charli XCX.

I can't wait to see a re-enactmennt of the dramatic scene when VP Pence rejects the PowerPoint insurrection sales pitch from the Trumpster.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2640038]Facts will show that 350,000 died under Trump when there was no vaccine and 1,000,000 died under Biden incompetence with 3 vaccines.[/QUOTE]Any other president in charge would have identified and contained the virus before it went worldwide.

Like previous administrations successfully did before.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2639938]The biggest super spreaders is the open border illegals. Biden makes every legal person entering the USA to be vaccinated but millions of unvaccinated illegals can bring Covid into USA daily. I guess democrats can't get Covid from illegals but with this Biden policy Covid will never end and new viruses will be entering our country daily. Biden is killing Americans every day with his open border policy. All Biden voters can take credit for bringing Covid in every day and killing Americans.[/QUOTE]Ahhhh, yes, the "open border" canard.

Every time you have said it, you have never, and I repeat, never, posted a link where President Biden or any Democratic member of the US House or Senate has said "I'm for open borders". I wonder why.

Could it be that no Democrat has ever said that?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2639617]In light of the latest reports of Trump's politicization of the coronavirus outbreak that worked beautifully to ensure it would become the historic Trump's Pandemic it became and still is, let's recap this from the beginning.

Despite his rushing in too little too late in order to falsely claim some credit for what had been researched and planned for decades and only after the USA Stock market crashed in response to the mounting deaths from the already established Trump's Pandemic to merely "brand" the effort to produce vaccines for it as soon as humanly possible (an idea that Trump supporters here now consider shitty anyway), no world leader did more and worked harder than iconic Republican Party so-called potus Donald J. Trump to pave the runway as smoothly as possible for any roundly warned about and predicted potential deadly virus to spread unabated and develop into a worldwide economy-destroying Pandemic that, among its other horrific results, would in all its inevitable variations predictably cripple the entire point and purpose of this website for years to come if not forever:[/QUOTE]Here's more proof that the Trump Administration purposely bungled the US COVID response. Nobody in the administration seemed to have an IQ in the double-digits.

"The House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis on Friday released a 46-page report confirming what was readily apparent to most reasonable, informed Americans: The Trump administration made "deliberate efforts" to undermine America's response to Covid-19 for political purposes.

Most of the documents cited in the committee's report have already been made public, including ones that show how the administration played down the importance of testing and even prevented public officials from holding briefings to educate the public on the highly contagious disease. New information released Friday, however, further illustrates how public health officials were put in difficult positions by the administration.

In May 2020, for instance, the administration shelved the Centers for Disease Control's mask guidance for churchgoers, reportedly because the White House feared a backlash from Trump's religious supporters. In response, the deputy director for infectious diseases at the CDC wrote in an email that he was "very troubled. That there will be people who will get sick and perhaps die because of what we were forced to do."

Dr. Deborah Birx also lamented the influence of "fringe groups" who peddled the dangerous idea of herd immunity.

"These are people who believe that all the curves are predetermined and mitigation is irrelevant — they are a fringe group without grounding in epidemics, public health or on the ground common sense experience," the administration's Covid-19 response coordinator wrote to Marc Short, then-chief of staff to Vice President Mike Pence, in Aug. 2020.

The report also delved into the management of pandemic relief programs, finding some of them were susceptible to fraud. The Farmers-to-Families Food Box Program, it notes, was "used as a partisan tool to secure political advantages" for Trump himself. Under this program, the administration handed out hefty contracts to unqualified distributors with red flags in their applications, partly because USDA personnel didn't even bother to contact the references listed on their applications. In fact, the recipient of one early contract simply wrote: "I don't have any."

The report's key points include how the Trump White House "instructed CDC career scientists to destroy evidence of political interference," "pressured the Food and Drug Administration to authorize ineffective coronavirus treatments," "neglected the pandemic response to focus on the 2020 election and the 'Big Lie, and "used personal email accounts to conduct official business."

All in all, the report concluded, the Trump administration's series of actions during this critical time amounted to "one of the worst failures of leadership in American history."

[URL]https://news.yahoo.com/trump-administration-deliberately-tanked-covid-224101761.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2640038]Facts will show that 350,000 died under Trump when there was no vaccine and 1,000,000 died under Biden incompetence with 3 vaccines.[/QUOTE]If the vast majority of that 1,000,000 are trumpers (which they will be), so what?

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2640081]Here's more proof that the Trump Administration purposely bungled the US COVID response. Nobody in the administration seemed to have an IQ in the double-digits.

"The House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis on Friday released a 46-page report confirming what was readily apparent to most reasonable, informed Americans: The Trump administration made "deliberate efforts" to undermine America's response to Covid-19 for political purposes.

Most of the documents cited in the committee's report have already been made public, including ones that show how the administration played down the importance of testing and even prevented public officials from holding briefings to educate the public on the highly contagious disease. New information released Friday, however, further illustrates how public health officials were put in difficult positions by the administration.

In May 2020, for instance, the administration shelved the Centers for Disease Control's mask guidance for churchgoers, reportedly because the White House feared a backlash from Trump's religious supporters. In response, the deputy director for infectious diseases at the CDC wrote in an email that he was "very troubled. That there will be people who will get sick and perhaps die because of what we were forced to do."[/QUOTE]Fake news and lies is not proof. CNN and NBC continue to lie and have fake news and now they are paying for it. NBC just settled their $375 million lawsuit with Nicholas Sandman for an undisclosed amount for slandering him. CNN and Washington post settled their lawsuits for fake news previously with him. So just quit posting fake news here. Our problem isn't what Trump did. It is what Biden is doing now. Biden has more deaths with 3 vaccines than Trump had with no vaccines. If Biden is doing his job why will he kill a million people?

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2640069]Ahhhh, yes, the "open border" canard.

Every time you have said it, you have never, and I repeat, never, posted a link where President Biden or any Democratic member of the US House or Senate has said "I'm for open borders". I wonder why.

Could it be that no Democrat has ever said that?[/QUOTE]They don't have to say it. They just do it and deny it. If you don't think that millions of people entering USA illegally with no consequence is not open borders then that shows your intelligence. Border agents are understaffed and overwhelmed. Covid is rampant at the border. Drugs are pouring in at record levels. Human trafficking is the worst ever. The whole world knows that the USA southern border is open to everyone and they are coming illegally from almost every country in the world. Amazing the whole world knows this and you don't.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2640067]Any other president in charge would have identified and contained the virus before it went worldwide.

Like previous administrations successfully did before.[/QUOTE]So now you are saying every leader in the world was incompetent because they didn't control Virus in their country.