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[QUOTE=You Can; 1358133]Ok here is the rest of trip even though only the faces change. After Karlee left it is now Friday Morning. I went and had another cappacino at Juan Valdez, its really good so I had two. By the way the weather was great my entire trip. I was still thinking about Karlee she was so fun...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the good report.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1358515]My thoughts exactly! However, Cartagena can get so expensive! However, GFE goes up and prices go down if you make contacts. With the new cheap Viva flights, I might be doing a lot of back and forth![/QUOTE]Hioctane, I searched for Viva and found a couple of airlines but none that serve CTG (Two in Asia and one that serves Roatan). Is this a local Colombian airline or international? Do you have a link? Thank you.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1359850]Hioctane, I searched for Viva and found a couple of airlines but none that serve CTG (Two in Asia and one that serves Roatan). Is this a local Colombian airline or international? Do you have a link? Thank you.[/QUOTE]I have never flown with them.
-Helpmann :)
[url]http://www.vivacolombia.co/[/url]
[QUOTE=Helpmann; 1359852]I have never flown with them.
-Helpmann.
[url]http://www.vivacolombia.co/[/url][/QUOTE]That's the one. They are local. Supposed to be the Spirit of Colombia. They had a black Friday special. Free luggage upgrade and cut the line for under 80k. Roundtrip from BOG to MDE! That's about $45! Normally, luggage will double the price of the ticket and express is another 10k I think. I'll see how it is when I get back in January.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1359944]That's the one. They are local. Supposed to be the Spirit of Colombia. They had a black Friday special. Free luggage upgrade and cut the line for under 80k. Roundtrip from BOG to MDE! That's about $45! Normally, luggage will double the price of the ticket and express is another 10k I think. I'll see how it is when I get back in January.[/QUOTE]They are the Spirit of Colombia in ways other than low prices also. Lousy service, cancelled flights, crappy seats etc. Then again, who cares if the flight is only 45 minutes long as most in country flights are very short.
For the most part you are going to pay around 100. 00us in Cartagena for TLN. But it can be more if the girl has no interest in being with you. It could easily be 200. Us These girls are nothing like the girls in the DR. If you dress nice, are you decent shape you will have no problem paying 100. 00 per night and personally if I didn't think a girl was worth a 100. 00 for the night I would not want to be with her. This past trip to Cartagena I saw more gringos and one guy was old and balding, total goofy looking bastard. All rinkled shorts and bo bo sneakers I saw at least 5 girls tell him no. He definitely needed to be in DR. I am glad these girls want more and arent afraid of saying no to a guy. The last thing I want is for Cartagena to turn into a Sosua. I don't think it will the girls are classier and definitely more expensive. I am glad because it will keep the rift raft out.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1358651]If you think $160 is expensive for TLN, then MDE is quite a bit more expensive than that (for a quality TLN). MDE is cheap only if you stick to casas during the day and try to do TLNs using contacts.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=You Can;1360955]This past trip to Cartagena I saw more gringos and one guy was old and balding, total goofy looking bastard. All rinkled shorts and bo bo sneakers I saw at least 5 girls tell him no. He definitely needed to be in DR. I am glad these girls want more and arent afraid of saying no to a guy. The last thing I want is for Cartagena to turn into a Sosua. I don't think it will the girls are classier and definitely more expensive. I am glad because it will keep the rift raft out.[/QUOTE]It is what I said during the Secret Service Scandal, Tony and them LDV putas will chew up and spit out a sucker all day long. Got friends that live there and they can't figure out why dudes don't come back because they all say they loved it, I say, because by the time they left they spent 5k and went home and cried. Just look at what Westy just did, didn't read the map or anything. I know some guys going down there shortly but they ain't listening to me, they better get a 401k loan. LMAO
I agree with that you can definitely go thru some money! Guys that do one trip a year and don't care about throwing money around are fine with it. But I try to do 5 or 6 trips a year, so I just don't throw money around that I don't have to. But not including airfair and my room. I like to have 500. 00 a day. Keep in mind I drink. Usually eat lunch and a late dinner. But I can easily spend 100. 00 on lunch with a chica and a pitcher of Sangria. Normally I usually do a light late dinner by myself before I hit the clubs usually about 50. 00 with a bottle of wine. I am well aware I can spend less. But these are things I like. At the club I always by a bottle of Rum, and share it with the girls. So money does go quick. You figure in a 100. 00 for the girl at night, and 50 to 60 for the day time girl, if I get one. Its always around 450 to 500. 00 per day for me. I can do DR for less then 200. 00 per day because its a whole different ballgame. So I am sure a guy that is use to the DR and ends up in Cartagena will definitely have sticker shock. .
[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1361002]It is what I said during the Secret Service Scandal, Tony and them LDV putas will chew up and spit out a sucker all day long. Got friends that live there and they can't figure out why dudes don't come back because they all say they loved it, I say, because by the time they left they spent 5k and went home and cried. Just look at what Westy just did, didn't read the map or anything. I know some guys going down there shortly but they ain't listening to me, they better get a 401k loan. LMAO[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=You Can;1361011]I agree with that you can definitely go thru some money! Guys that do one trip a year and don't care about throwing money around are fine with it. But I try to do 5 or 6 trips a year, so I just don't throw money around that I don't have to. But not including airfair and my room. I like to have 500. 00 a day. Keep in mind I drink. Usually eat lunch and a late dinner. But I can easily spend 100. 00 on lunch with a chica and a pitcher of Sangria. Normally I usually do a light late dinner by myself before I hit the clubs usually about 50. 00 with a bottle of wine. I am well aware I can spend less. But these are things I like. At the club I always by a bottle of Rum, and share it with the girls. So money does go quick. You figure in a 100. 00 for the girl at night, and 50 to 60 for the day time girl, if I get one. Its always around 450 to 500. 00 per day for me. I can do DR for less then 200. 00 per day because its a whole different ballgame. So I am sure a guy that is use to the DR and ends up in Cartagena will definitely have sticker shock. .[/QUOTE]You do the night thing hard, I still haven't managed to figure out how to keep my eyes from twitching and glossed over from the beach all day, I look like death walking, I am bringing Visene the next time and we will see how that goes.
[QUOTE=You Can;1360955]For the most part you are going to pay around 100. 00us in Cartagena for TLN. But it can be more if the girl has no interest in being with you. It could easily be 200. Us These girls are nothing like the girls in the DR. If you dress nice, are you decent shape you will have no problem paying 100. 00 per night and personally if I didn't think a girl was worth a 100. 00 for the night I would not want to be with her. This past trip to Cartagena I saw more gringos and one guy was old and balding, total goofy looking bastard. All rinkled shorts and bo bo sneakers I saw at least 5 girls tell him no. He definitely needed to be in DR. I am glad these girls want more and arent afraid of saying no to a guy. The last thing I want is for Cartagena to turn into a Sosua. I don't think it will the girls are classier and definitely more expensive. I am glad because it will keep the rift raft out.[/QUOTE]Well stated in both posts. Though, I never paid less than $200 a night (total including multas if applicable) in CTG or MDE and I have no complaints. Compared to a lot of places in the world, For Price / Quality ratio CTG and MDE are still hard to beat for TLNs.
[Thanks, the other thing I wanted to touch on in the post about money and forgot was the exchange rate. I am not a financial guy but it seems like you really get hosed over on the exchange rate. When I started going down there I would get like 200, 000 peso or even a little more for a 100. 00 US now its way down. Like 170, 000 for the 100. 000 All them missed pesos really add up. Where as in DR I was getting 39. 5 this past trip a couple weeks ago which I thought was pretty good.
QUOTE=Vitrea; 1361044]Well stated in both posts. Though, I never paid less than $200 a night (total including multas if applicable) in CTG or MDE and I have no complaints. Compared to a lot of places in the world, For Price / Quality ratio CTG and MDE are still hard to beat for TLNs.[/QUOTE]
i was very tempted not to write this one up, since it is a little embarrassing but here it goes and if no one find's it educational maybe it can at least entertain.
so last friday night in centro around 11pm, seeing quite the selection once again around the clock tower, and outside the city wall all the way to the park. all types of quality and prices, something for everyone you might say and i've noticed the action here really changes day to day. my intention was to just have a few drinks and enjoy myself, no plans to hook up with a chica (or two as it turned out). so after meeting some interesting tourists and drinking a lot more than usual i was finally stumbling my way out of the old city when i sit down for a tinto thinking it might help me walk straighter. then two small darker (but not quite black) chicas approach me acting all sweet. now i've admitted before that i am a cheap charlie but since the beer vendor was right there and buying these two a drink was only going to set me back 5000 pesos i said what the hell, and then explained to them that they could get back to work whenever they want because i'm not playing tonight. now more on these girls, i have to admit, one was probably a 5 and the other a 4, at least that's the way i remember it, or maybe that 4 was a 3. the bodies were looking ok, it was mostly the faces dragging them down. persistent little buggers too, and i was told that if i didn't want fucky fucky i could just get a massage (w / happy ending). so one of them starts giving me a shoulder rub there on the street bench and she actually had good hands, go figure, and i'm starting to get a little worked up when the other one starts rubbing my thigh, probably mostly just for the thought of having two girls at once, and on it goes for a few minutes. now until this point i never understood why this street just outside the clock tower has so much chica traffic, turns out on the other end of that street there is a short-time hotel for 25, 000 cop per hour. there are enough girls standing in front of it you could easily mistake it for a prepago bar entrance. these chicas are generally but not always below the quality you find inside the old city. like some unspoken rule that if you are below a "5" you have to stay outside the walls. and i have seen the $5 dollar girls of the park in this area, sober, in the day time, which is just next door, and those girls are seriously rough, i don't think anyone on this forum would have a go with any of them even it was free, they are just plain scary. so back to my girls, they are a step above the 'park' girls but not quite centro quality, if that makes any sense, and i'm not thinking sex anyway, i'm thinking rub and tug with two chicks, plus i had some very nice experiences with some very average girls before. so they put it to me like this, an offer i couldn't refuse; 50, 000 cop each ($27usd) plus 25, 000 for the room, and if i just want a massage and hj then fine, but i could get whatever i wanted done for that price, i was too drunk or stupid to even negotiate and off we went just 50 meters over to the hotel. big room but not nice, not even a western shower but instead a giant garbage can full of water and a scoop (asian style). the massage gets started, and i can now see they aren't making the same effort they were outside, they just want to give me a quick hj and move on and i'm thinking more like bj and i know it's not uncommon but i can't remember a girl putting a condom on me just for a blow before, no big deal really as i was worked up enough at this point, but this is where things go down hill real fast, this is why drinking and just about anything can be a bad idea at times. so one girl is sucking on my nipple and fondling the balls (per my instructions) while the other one is doing the cbj and they both decide they want to get paid. nice timing right? so i tell them i'm not done yet and after enough negotiating to screw the moment up a bit they assure me they will finish the task at hand but would feel better knowing they are getting paid so like an ass i pay them in right then. quite annoyed and less excited than before i tell them to take there tops off and when the one told me her tits were not very nice and she wants to leave the bra on, well i should have listened to her, jesus talk about sloppy wrinkly droopy. the other girl was ok, just ok so i tried to focus on her. i've spent a lot of time in colombia and was never in situation quite like this before, but normally on a mongering night i'm more focused and i get what i actually want. sorry, back to the story, i tell the one girl (the one who isn't turning me off yet) to take off her shorts since she was complaining about the cbj and wanting to just do hj, and now that she has been paid its extra for fucky fucky, and she doesn't want to sucky skucky, hahahah i just laid there and laughed knowing how bad i screwed up. any attempts i made to explain that this wasnt the deal just resulted in my gear getting softer and softer so i decided to cut my losses and let her finish me with a combo of cbj and hj. we were in the room about 30 minutes. since i was heading home i had no desire to take a shower in there, the floor was dirty and i don't even remember seeing a towel. the girls are dressed with amazing speed and out the door of the room but the hotel guy won't let them leave unless all 3 of us walk out together and i'm taking my time dammit, you know tie my shoes take a leak, etc, hell we had 30 minutes left on the room, maybe i could actually get a massage. then the once sweet and almost charming duo get nasty and start yelling they want to go, but hell i'm not telling them they can't go, not that any of this last part matters. the points of the story are as we mostly know, paying in advance will always get you screwed (in one way or the other) , pun intended. a "5" and a "3" does not equal an 8, not in this case anyway. still for less than $70 usad including their drinks and the room, it was an interesting night so you can be cheap in cartagena but it might not be worth it.
on a side note, for the exact same money, i could have had one of several nicer looking girls inside the clock tower, many of those girls will do st for 100, 000 cop but most are asking 200, 000. one of the touts (that i previously mistook for a straight up pimp) said that he would even walk me through the girls and point out which once will go for 100k, even volunteered info that his cut would be 10, from the girl, for making the intro, so the girls out there are all freelance. he also volunteered that if we walked me to isis strip club, he would get 3000 for each 10, 000 beer i bought, and 25, 000 if i took a girl out, not bad i guess. how does he know he's getting paid?"it's all computerized and they pay us at least once a week", go figure.
[QUOTE=You Can;1361011]I agree with that you can definitely go thru some money! Guys that do one trip a year and don't care about throwing money around are fine with it. But I try to do 5 or 6 trips a year, so I just don't throw money around that I don't have to. But not including airfair and my room. I like to have 500. 00 a day. Keep in mind I drink. Usually eat lunch and a late dinner. But I can easily spend 100. 00 on lunch with a chica and a pitcher of Sangria. Normally I usually do a light late dinner by myself before I hit the clubs usually about 50. 00 with a bottle of wine. I am well aware I can spend less. But these are things I like. At the club I always by a bottle of Rum, and share it with the girls. So money does go quick. You figure in a 100. 00 for the girl at night, and 50 to 60 for the day time girl, if I get one. Its always around 450 to 500. 00 per day for me. I can do DR for less then 200. 00 per day because its a whole different ballgame. So I am sure a guy that is use to the DR and ends up in Cartagena will definitely have sticker shock. .[/QUOTE]It depends on where you go in DR. Are you talking about Sosua that you can spend 200 / day? Pretty much anywhere else in DR you are guaranteed to spend a lot more. In Sosua, you are limited to what is available. In Colombia, there are 5 star restaurants and there are 1 star. There is something for everyone. For an even comparison, you have to compare what you are getting.
[i] (All reports have been written some days after the trip, which took place one week ago) [/i]
I arrive to CTG from Bogota in the evening. Yesterday, I had my fun in Santa Fe exploring most seedy bars and alleys. I like adventure. Here, I intend to change totally approach. WOW! It's one year I miss this dream of a city! I cannot wait.
BUT, my last trip was to Batam (see reports there, if you want to read something amazing
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). My mind is still focused on Asia, on the incredible GFE which can be got there, but especially on the extraordinary experiences and luck I got there.
On my first night in Cartagena, I feel "out of focus". When your mind is wrong, anything looks wrong and difficult. This is the chronicle of a wasted night. (Except for the fact that Cartagena is a wonderful place. I missed it for a whole year!).
Dinner at Juan Del Mar, San Diego. This restaurant is overrated. The music is too loud and frankly annoying. The recipes are always the same, since many years. I got bored, even if I missed eating here for all the past year.
A drink at Juan Del Mar. I notice a couple of girls who look prepagos, but I refrain from seeking eye contact. I expect to see something better later. A sexy girl on high heels walks around like on a stage, sits down and waives to me. I make a bet with myself: "She is from Medellin". I go to ask, and she is!
Two hours at Fragma. This is a nice disco. The problem is that most people there are friends and couples, girls are not prepagos. I am not tuned yet on the place. I cannot find my way. Girls are outrageously sexy, but guys too. I consider myself somehow handsome, but with my 45y I cannot compete with young boys dressed as photomodels! In Batam, I am used to attract the attention of all girls. Almost any sexy girl is not out of reach for me. Here, sorry, NO.
I spot a couple of girls, with their boyfriends, who look frankly astonishing. I don't remember any girl on the TV of my country who is so sexy. Colombia is really the Empyrean of the female beauty.
Quite depressed, I move to Tu Candela. Here I grab a sexy mulata and after a couple of drinks we go to my hotel room.
My wrong mood, being away from here a solid year, and lack of good luck make me cumulate a number of mistakes. She is not bad, but:
- we agree 200k.
- we stop on the way to buy 3 beers for her and a soda for me (why 3?)
- we have some good fun (nothing to complain about)
- after it, she says she cannot stay because she is to drunk and feels tired (now I understand why 3: they are for friends at home)
- my rule is never insist to make a girl to stay if she is not happy (where's the fun to have a deadfish in the bed?) , so I am happy to see her leaving.
Conclusion: at 6am I start sleeping hoping in a better future for my next 3 days here.
Wake up in morning and LONG walk along the beach in Bocagrande. I have a beer with Tony, [i]just because I like to see and listen the real solid one[/i], after having just read about him for the whole past year. He cannot imagine why I accept his beer (my entertainment). I limit the damage to 5k for the beer and a chair. I leave after a while, saying I'll check girls later.
Mojarra frita at Dona Marciana on the beach. Hmmm how much I missed this!
Afternoon. No more time to waste. I give a call to my trusted lady.
She runs a business at her house in Alcibia, as I reported many times on ISG in my past reports. This house is known to SOME taxi drivers, but not to all. The house is small and rather poor. The room itself dedicated to the business is "essential" at best (fan, pipe shower, hard bed, no window). The family is made of the lady, the husband, the son and the LOVELY daughter, who is now 15yo and began to be sexy and pretty 2-3 years ago already (I know what you dirty men are thinking: forget it. SHE DOES NOT WORK, she is the DAUGHTER and she is treasured and kept away from any dirty business. She is very nice and she likes to talk with me (with family).
When I go there, there are always 2-3 fat or mid-size girls (doable, but I am not in CTG for this) sitting in the courtyard waiting for "guests". I am not interested to that.
I go there because the lady can call some other girl, who is out of the business and can do this at times, only with selected people to get some extra cash. Do I believe this story? At times no, but at times YES. I met a couple of real young GEMS here, shy and not used to meet foreigners.
(Sometimes I was also introduced to sleazy girls who looked well acquainted to this kind of job, but uncertainty makes the story more thrilling)
So, quick phone call. She says "yes I can call one special for you". I must explain the way to the taxi driver because he seems not understanding the direction.
The girl is young and pretty, and also hot and good as a porn star in doing it! It's frankly an excellent experience. (I agreed 100k with her, assuming that from locals the girls working there may receive something on the order of 50k, and of course I gave a significant tip to the lady for the room and the nice service of introducing me to the girl).
After the deed, chat with family, one more beer, and I go back to El Centro using my feet instead of taking a taxi. It's about one hour walking. I stop at Bazurto to buy some pirate DVD with reggaeton. I will listen to it during the cold winter at home.
Dinner at Santisimo, San Diego. This is an excellent restaurant, which I recommend.
Drinks at Café del Mar, Tu Candela, strolling, chats with girls loitering in front of Tu Candela and outside. By the way, I don't remember I ever saw so many girls here outdoor! What happened? They are not skanks. Many of them move to Elektra at 3am, but do not want to enter Tu Candela because of the cover (10k cover for men. 20k cover for girls: the world seems reversed here).
Being the second day, I start to be more used to see so many sexy girls around. It's amazing. In my country, I would see 2-3 such girls maybe in a year. Here, they are dozens and all around. I know you know the feeling.
At Elektra, I see THE GIRL. Young, pretty, smiling as a doll. She dresses cheap (she might have been one of those in the street earlier) , but she is the one I like. Emily, from Medellin.
She says she is 19, but once in my hotel I find that she does not have the cedula. She says she has it at home. She is not allowed to enter, even if she looks old enough.
Fortunately, la Jaiba is the resource in these cases. Emily is a dream girl! She is hot as hell, sweet at the same time, willing to try anything.
I accompany her back to her hotel / room at 7am. I plan to be with her also in the day, but her phone will be off for 2 days. She will call me only 2 days later, when I will be at Puente Aereo in Bogota.