Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2870263]Why nis bandwidth being wasted on Dunkin Donuts. Why are Dunkin Donuts even relevant in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Guess if you have a metered connection, bandwidth might be an issue. Or are you still using dialup? Certainly not on the server side. And some of us just might want to have something sweet with our coffee after a morning wakeup, and don't you offer your guest a pastry with her coffee?

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2870335]Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.[/QUOTE]
Seems to be a growing trend. I was quite surprised (and, I'll be honest, a little bit hurt) when someone I [i]knew[/i] from last year asked for money [b]before[/b] last week. Just contradictory to ALL my learnings... but not enough to nix the [i]experience[/i] as I do [i]know[/i] (biblical sense) her. Do I really need a haircut that bad?

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2870335]Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.[/QUOTE]It's not 1999.

In the year 19999 I bought a rinky dinky condo for $72,000. Now it's approaching $300,000.

Grasp the concept People.

In 1999 My 🍟 man made $5. 69. Now the same same fries 🍟 man is pushing $25.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2870335]Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.[/QUOTE]Gets even better.

After the deed is done, they go back, punch back into the bar, and look for a bar fine fine again.

It's way not the old days anymore.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2870317]Can Mr. Ny. Identify which Nana Bar Indian s are Barfining at?

I don't see many indian s at Rainbow 4 and 5. Usually they don't get past security. 😂.

I'll come clean. I'm not Indian. 😂.[/QUOTE]I can't identify any bars which are a problem or not for Indian people. I'm really not a big fan of at the Go-Go bars for the reasons that goat set forth. I've only barfined a girl on two occasions this entire year. The whole process is annoying. And quite frankly, I think it's a ripoff, but every once in awhile during my travels a siren calls to me and I end up on the rocks.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2870335]And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.[/QUOTE]You've been spoiled by all these years living in Bangkok, with pussy available everywhere and everyday.

You think guys coming from a sex prison country really care that she cannot hold a conversation? What they want is her body, at that point these guys don't care she is an Isaan farmer's daughter.

And as we read it often here, they usually say it's still cheaper than where they're coming from, so they go for it.

It's very clear the gogo system is not for everyone anymore, it's getting very expensive.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2870233]Good concise intel. [/QUOTE]Well that's the way it should be, innit? I don't think folks are interested in my search for the ultimate cheap cookie, or how I got my toes manicured or my blow by blow description of me getting my nose hairs trimmed, or me bragging about how smart I am with lots of [B] bold [/B].

Its not about me is it? My life is complete enough to not have the need to broadcast the mundane aspects of same to the world.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2870335]Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. [b]Guess we have a different punter demographic these days[/b]....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2870374]..[b]Seems to be a growing trend.[/b] I was quite surprised (and, I'll be honest, a little bit hurt) when someone I [i]knew[/i] from last year asked for money [b]before[/b] last week. Just contradictory to ALL my learnings..[/QUOTE]Oh most definitely a [B]different punter demographic[/B] these days. I noticed it my first visit back to Nana after Covid. Some of my regulars have told me of this as well. It seems to be a post Covid thing. Behaviors have changed since Covid in America, more rudeness as if that was even possible.

Look at some of the demeaning posts on this forum in the last years. One has a bad experience, we don't use words that demean women or the Thai race but the [B]different punter demographic[/B] set definitely does. It is just a bad experience with one person. That can happen in any business anywhere in the world. It has nothing to do with ethnicity or sex.

[B]Be polite guys. [/B] It is easy. Please. [B]Thailand is paradise for us[/B]. Keep it that way.

p.s. Bravo, get a haircut, you dirty hippy. lol

Anyone know of any [B]pregnant[/B] or [B]lactating[/B] providers in BKK? Bucket list thing. I will be there next week.
I am a respectful guy and always nice to my providers. I will meet you at a pool hall if you want to make sure you can recommend me.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2870335]Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.[/QUOTE]Some punters who don't pay after the girl is in the room and maybe even after they are naked in their bed are the ones who "go with the flow", negotiate nothing upfront and then discover they are going to get nothing they wanted in the first place. It isn't necessarily that the dude got everything from the girl and then sent her packing with only taxi fare. It is also sometimes the case that the girl gave him nothing but "her time" after he paid the barfine and took her to his room and that is why he sent her packing with only taxi fare. If that much.

But that isn't what the girl is going to tell the mamasan and all of her co-workers in the bar.

In fact, I am one of those punters who feels that unless I have negotiated every factor important to me upfront, that is DFK, BBBJ, BBFS+CIP, No Rushing and No Hurry, and gotten a clear Yes to the program, the girl has every right to say No to any of it without my paying her less than the fairly well understood going rate for "her time". For go-go and beer bar girls let's say 2,500 - 3,000 baht.

That's right. In my opinion I have no standing to send any bargirl packing with only taxi fare or less because she didn't deliver any sex-related behavior or service that she did not agree to do upfront before I paid the barfine and took her.

Which is why I do negotiate those things upfront with a bargirl and "go with the flow" only under rare circumstances.

But there are other punters who don't see it that way.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2870538]I have negotiated every factor important to me upfront, that is DFK, BBBJ, BBFS+CIP, No Rushing and No Hurry,[/QUOTE]Your approach is the correct one if BBFS is involved. However, I demand all of the above other than BBFSCIP so there is no need to negotiate the other things in Pattaya since those are a given. The exception are the soapies but you don't get to talk to the girls beforehand anyways. In BKK, Thermae girls are the issue. I'm not sure how you do all that negotiation in Thermae with girls on either side of her under a foot away. I'm sure a lot of girls give you dirty looks at Thermae when you're not looking.

I take your approach when it comes to some girls even getting a LD. I tell them DFK and mutual groping (HJ under shorts in a dirtier gogo bar or Soi 6) and my time expectations. I'm a Cheap Charlie so I expect a lot for my 200+ baht LD.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2870615]Your approach is the correct one if BBFS is involved. However, I demand all of the above other than BBFSCIP so there is no need to negotiate the other things in Pattaya since those are a given. The exception are the soapies but you don't get to talk to the girls beforehand anyways. In BKK, Thermae girls are the issue. I'm not sure how you do all that negotiation in Thermae with girls on either side of her under a foot away. I'm sure a lot of girls give you dirty looks at Thermae when you're not looking.

I take your approach when it comes to some girls even getting a LD. I tell them DFK and mutual groping (HJ under shorts in a dirtier gogo bar or Soi 6) and my time expectations. I'm a Cheap Charlie so I expect a lot for my 200+ baht LD.[/QUOTE]"A given"? Hmm. OK. Who says so?

Yes, requesting anything upfront from a Thermae girl standing shoulder to shoulder in a line up is sure to get a negative response even if she routinely gives everything in the room to anyone without hesitation. That's why I consider Thermae to be one of the worst mongering options for those of us who have requirements beyond the girl popping open her legs to endure 10 minutes of fully covered coitus for 3,000 baht.

But it can and has been done. Whispering the scariest parts like DFK, BBBJ and, for sure, BBFS+CIP works sometimes. Typing it out on Google Translate and showing her, only her, the screen. Then you wait for her shriek and collapse in the line up. All the other girls can guess what she just read before fainting. LOL. Maybe BBBJ+CIM is an even scarier and more impossible to imagine thought for a 3,000 baht Thermae girl. Not sure.

I honestly suspect the main reason river's of (overwhelmingly Asian) customers circle the bar and then 99.9% of them walk out alone is because discussing anything important about the session is so uncomfortable in that place and nothing to do with all of the girls being unsuitable for fucking on a given night.

I have on occasion taken a Thermae girl without discussing any of those things. My relatively rare "go with the flow" experiences. Probably 15 different times over the years. Not one was worth the time or money. But hope springs eternal. It's a 2,500 - 3,000 baht gamble and I have certainly wasted more time and money than that on a "go with the flow" bet.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2870447]Well that's the way it should be, innit? I don't think folks are interested in my search for the ultimate cheap cookie, or how I got my toes manicured or my blow by blow description of me getting my nose hairs trimmed, or me bragging about how smart I am with lots of [B] bold [/B].

Its not about me is it? My life is complete enough to not have the need to broadcast the mundane aspects of same to the world.[/QUOTE]I could use some recommendations on where to find good Mayonnaise to put on my Baloney Sammich. Maybe Mr 11 B could a fella out. No Kraft Brand please. I want Exotic Hot Mayo.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2870538]In fact, I am one of those punters who feels that unless I have negotiated every factor important to me upfront, that is DFK, BBBJ, BBFS+CIP, No Rushing and No Hurry, and gotten a clear Yes to the program, the girl has every right to say No to any of it without my paying her less than the fairly well understood going rate for "her time". For go-go and beer bar girls let's say 2,500 - 3,000 baht.

That's right. In my opinion I have no standing to send any bargirl packing with only taxi fare or less because she didn't deliver any sex-related behavior or service that she did not agree to do upfront before I paid the barfine and took her.

Which is why I do negotiate those things upfront with a bargirl and "go with the flow" only under rare circumstances.[/QUOTE]Well said. Punting 101.

I've said it many times in many climes: specify YOUR menu desires, find out HER menu, determine if it matches, ask yourself if you can accept any missing [I]appetizers[/I] or even a different [I]main course[/I], and agree to it, including price, [B]BEFORE[/B] leaving. NO wishful thinking about any missing items that might appear later, and no reneging on the bill. For me, if she doesn't deliver everything agreed to, OK, her decision, I pay the full price, I just NEVER repeat. For those who do deliver... added to the pitching rotation. For the few where I've decided to go [i]pot luck[/i], I still have an agreed to price [b]BEFORE[/b] leaving which IS paid.

Ok, so I RTFF and had no luck on this, so. Please advise: where can I watch a hot girl get on her knees and suck a guy off? I'm thinking perhaps AfterSkool or Toy Bar and sit strategically to watch the action, but perhaps there's a better, more guaranteed option! All advice much appreciated.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2870538]In fact, I am one of those punters who feels that unless I have negotiated every factor important to me upfront, that is DFK, BBBJ, BBFS+CIP, No Rushing and No Hurry, and gotten a clear Yes to the program, the girl has every right to say No to any of it without my paying her less than the fairly well understood going rate for "her time". For go-go and beer bar girls let's say 2,500 - 3,000 baht.[/QUOTE]In bars where I know mama, I tend to have mama prescreen girls for me and then I give her a decent tip, last time 200 baht plus a drink. Last week I returned to TLOS for the first time in 7 months and my favorite mama spotted me outside a bar where I've never seen her before. Mama welcomes me with the sweetest words ever "I already have one for you". She brings me to the girl, who is exactly my type, and makes the introduction. Upon my approval, mama confirms all my terms, bar fine is paid, and we are off for the best session ever. Next time I see that mama I'll remind her of the girl she recommended and give her an extra tip.

I know most punters think mamasans are all worthless pains in the ass, but they know their girls and they can match you appropriately, but you must tip them and get to know them. Unfortunately, I only know 2 Nana Plaza mamas well enough to trust their pre screening. Of course, this method won't work for Cheap Charlie.