Lisbon

Yes I'm all for seeing regularly girls that you've had good service from previously, and perhaps there are a handful of girls at EP who do provide a good service.

I think the messages below are alluding to the fact that the number of 'good' girls may have shrunk over time, and combined with the price increase, it just makes EP overall that bit less attractive. I also had a reliability issue recently where a girl just didn't turn up for an appointment.

[QUOTE=CanuckGuy85;2957806]It seems like EP's roster is equally divided between girls that constantly get bad reviews, mixed reviews, no reviews and great reviews. I haven't used it as much compared to other posters here since I only started using them in the beginning of this year when I started seeing escorts on my trips to Lisbon however they do have a good core of girls that have been there for a while and constantly get great reviews and some of their newer girls like Estela and Eva have been picking up great reviews. If you would like to stick to having some regulars that you see often and have great sessions with for outcall's I'd say their still good for that.[/QUOTE]

That's a fair point and I'm sure guys from the USA or Canada don't find EP expensive, even where the girl provides a fairly basic service.

However I think a fairer comparison is with non-EP ladies in Lisbon itself, or with neighbouring countries such as Spain or even England. That's where the 'expensive' claim comes from. Places like the USA are thousands of miles away and a different world!

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2957979]If you think 200 Euros per HR is expensive, you should see how much escorts charge in some of other countries, US being a good example. Apartadox equivalents like Flora Neves, Lisa Mendes, and Eva Mello easily charge at least 3 x the price in the USA+you have to deal with the screening BS and high deposits.[/QUOTE]

I'm late in posting this, but I noticed that in Portugal the erotic massage parlor scene is dominated by Brazilians. Few Portuguese girls work in those massage parlours, other nationalities are almost unheard of general speaking. Some of parlors are 100% Brazilians. It's easier to find Portuguese girls escorting than offering massages. Why is that? Do they work as independents or it's not popular for Portuguese sex workers?

[QUOTE=Harry1217;2958088]That's a fair point and I'm sure guys from the USA or Canada don't find EP expensive, even where the girl provides a fairly basic service.

However I think a fairer comparison is with non-EP ladies in Lisbon itself, or with neighbouring countries such as Spain or even England. That's where the 'expensive' claim comes from. Places like the USA are thousands of miles away and a different world![/QUOTE]I don't know about UK, but prices has gone up for escorts in Spain too. On the topic of EscortPrivada why is it the only escort agency in all of Lisbon?

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2958121]I'm late in posting this, but I noticed that in Portugal the erotic massage parlor scene is dominated by Brazilians. Few Portuguese girls work in those massage parlours, other nationalities are almost unheard of general speaking. Some of parlors are 100% Brazilians. It's easier to find Portuguese girls escorting than offering massages. Why is that? Do they work as independents or it's not popular for Portuguese sex workers?

I don't know about UK, but prices has gone up for escorts in Spain too. On the topic of EscortPrivada why is it the only escort agency in all of Lisbon?[/QUOTE]Culturally, Western European, American, Canadian and Australian sex workers have been gravitating toward a paid-sex by appointment model for quite some time now. There is less time waiting for a potential customer. We could be arrogant and say that is because they amount to more since they use that non-waiting time to study and work other jobs. Of course others may say that nothing shows dedication like showing up to work and clocking in and out. It is also possible that local Portuguese women have more local friends and want more flexibility in schedules. But at the end of the day, it is your Romanians and other Eastern Europeans who fill the FKKs and your South Americans that fill the massage places in Lisbon, and Asians who fill the massage places in other parts of Europe. There are of course exceptions.

I get a kick out of guys who think they get a better massage because a sex worker works at a massage parlor. Several of Lisbon's recommended escorts have reviews indicating that they do excellent, borderline professional massages. Here are a couple of them.

[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/es/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/511702-lara-shultz-convivio-desinibid[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=7806[/URL]

As to your question on escort agencies, there was once a big, connected conglomerate of them that were bad news. Really bad news. Threats to customers and once a review claiming "rape extortion" by one of the ladies. They finally went away, thank god, and the honest and reputable Escort Privada survived. It wouldn't surprise me if that conglomerate either directly or indirectly forced other upstart agencies out. Portugal's laws are not friendly to escort agencies, and they must actually be viewed as a group of independents using common resources for advertising and scheduling. Notice how EP has a different phone number for each lady, and notice how it doesn't offer incall. There are reasons for such things.

I don't understand why everyone refers to EP as an agency. I don't see them as such. A booking or advertising agency, maybe, but not a traditional agency that actually hires girls and controls any aspect of them. A lot of the girls listed there also use apartadox and other sites with the same contact number and answer their own messages, so an "agency" wouldn't do this. The major separation between them and others may be in the fees that they charge, keeping certain girls from using their services.

I responded but the post didn't show up.

You don't need to choose independents from random.

Flexmind gives us a great list a page back.

A lot of redundancy to Flexmind's list, but here are the GFE independents with all, or mostly all, great review scores.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-rebeca-diniz-6364[/URL]

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-tati-bernardi-3753[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-morgana-cruz-7168[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=3827[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=7806[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-isis-nogueira-4429[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-isadora-marques-7677[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Mel-Pires-5408[/URL]

[URL]https://m.happyescorts.com/mait-e186154[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-sophie-a-7071[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-flora-neves-5484[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Ella-Secret-6513[/URL]

[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/es/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/511702-lara-shultz-convivio-desinibid[/URL]

[QUOTE=Cedricgle;2957984]I am curious about this EP situation. Because I was looking at these ladies for next week:

- Leonor Oliveira ([URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/leonor-oliveira/[/URL]).

- Raquel Costa ([URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/raquel-costa/[/URL]).

- Ins Pires ([URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/ines-pires/[/URL]).

- Kelly Prata ([URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/kelly-prata/[/URL]).

They have photos dating from 2020, 2022 yet they don't seem to exist (none or only 1 post) when I google them for reviews in the GP forum. Given their looks I suppose they should have some recognition. Which might mean there are some shenanigans at play here. Kind sad, as I prefer agencies over random independents.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2958284]I responded but the post didn't show up.

You don't need to choose independents from random.

Flexmind gives us a great list a page back.

A lot of redundancy to Flexmind's list, but here are the GFE independents with all, or mostly all, great review scores.



[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-morgana-cruz-7168[/URL]


[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-sophie-a-7071[/URL][/QUOTE]For some reasons I would never pick these two, but the rest is pretty good indeed.

[QUOTE=FutureLegend;2958024]Returned from another great trip to Portugal, which included a stop in Lisbon to take in some of the local beauties. Didn't get to see as many as I wanted, but that's partially because I chose to scale back my selections. I did, however, have the good pleasure of seeing Renata Alves, Flora Neves (again) and Estela Nunes.

Renata. Sexy young thing (I'the put her around 22-25) who has a VERY tight and toned petite body. Excellent BBBJ with attempts at DT. A 10/10 ass and it's a sight to behold in doggie, just as much as her perky be's are in CG. She hung out and chatted after and she is very chill. She's confident and sexy and I had planned to see her a second time, but decided not to and just take a quiet night to myself instead.

Flora. What can you say that hasn't been said? More time and more confidence for her. I will say that she was WAY more flaky to book with this time than in the past. I think she is trying to keep the work low key and has just built the confidence to say no to certain times or to only adjust to when the timing works out. Services are actually pretty average, but she has the exact look that I love, so that's enough for me.

Estela. Might be my new favourite in Lisbon and I hope she sticks around long enough to see her many more times. Fiery red hair and a beautiful face with seductive eyes. The dude who passed on second hand information here about her might need to question his buddy's opinion on women because I think the pictures of her are a fantastic representation of what you get, except that you can't see her face, so you miss the sultry seductiveness of it. She's 21 and a student and looks the part of the smokin hot coed that you'the fantasize about all day. A BBBJ and rides like a fucking champ. I had to get her to stop because I didn't want to finish in the dome, but rather on that super cute face of hers. I may take trips just to see her LOL.

I was dying to see Vivi, but she was away for the week that I was there. So I'll be going back to see her at least once, Estella again, Flora and hopefully Eva, since she was a bit flakey too and couldn't make any times work.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report Estela looks great and I'm hoping to see her and Eva this winter when I'm back in Lisbon. Shame you couldn't see Viviane I've seen her multiple times now and she's just awesome and so addictive I can't get enough of that woman, and of course Flora is so cute and an absolute sweetheart when I met her.

Entirely, without any provocation, I stumbled upon this massage parlor, on Google Maps of all places: [URL]https://www.nexusspa.top[/URL].

Is it normal for Lisbon? This is the first time I'm seeing someone so shamelessly advertising their services in public space, which kind of makes me curious.

I have read some of the posts here and it seems there are two reliable sources, EP and apartdox. I would like to ask for recommendations for a one day stop in Lisbon next week while I'm going through for work. I usually don't use outcalls and go to incalls but it seems most of the action in Lisbon is outcall. Also, I don't speak Portuguese or Spanish. Can any recommend any place that has incall and suitable for english-only person? I have been to Frankfurt and like the scene there, but I assume there's nothing similar to the red light district or FKK in Lisbon.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.

[QUOTE=ShiftTab;2958978]I have read some of the posts here and it seems there are two reliable sources, EP and apartdox. I would like to ask for recommendations for a one day stop in Lisbon next week while I'm going through for work. I usually don't use outcalls and go to incalls but it seems most of the action in Lisbon is outcall. Also, I don't speak Portuguese or Spanish. Can any recommend any place that has incall and suitable for english-only person? I have been to Frankfurt and like the scene there, but I assume there's nothing similar to the red light district or FKK in Lisbon.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I can only warmly recommend that you visit Ines during your stopover. She speaks perfect English and has a wonderful way of seducing you, and after two hours you will hear the angels singing.

Have fun – you will!

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

[QUOTE=ShiftTab;2958978]I have read some of the posts here and it seems there are two reliable sources, EP and apartdox. I would like to ask for recommendations for a one day stop in Lisbon next week while I'm going through for work. I usually don't use outcalls and go to incalls but it seems most of the action in Lisbon is outcall. Also, I don't speak Portuguese or Spanish. Can any recommend any place that has incall and suitable for english-only person? I have been to Frankfurt and like the scene there, but I assume there's nothing similar to the red light district or FKK in Lisbon.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I would suggest Rebeca Diniz - [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-rebeca-diniz-6364[/URL].

She's one of the best escort (kindness and service wise with all included) in Lisbon and speaks English very well.

Thank me later.

[QUOTE=ShiftTab;2958978]I have read some of the posts here and it seems there are two reliable sources, EP and apartdox. I would like to ask for recommendations for a one day stop in Lisbon next week while I'm going through for work. I usually don't use outcalls and go to incalls but it seems most of the action in Lisbon is outcall. Also, I don't speak Portuguese or Spanish. Can any recommend any place that has incall and suitable for english-only person? I have been to Frankfurt and like the scene there, but I assume there's nothing similar to the red light district or FKK in Lisbon.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]EP is outcall only.

Most of the action is in fact incall, that is what the locals use.

I did a post just a few pages ago listing around a dozen independents who have incall. Of that list, I think Flora is outcall only.

Flexmind did a similar list a few pages back.

If you send a WhatsApp message to a lady on that list who appeals to you, she will respond and you can set up an incall appointment. She will use a nice incall apartment. It may just be you and her, although some incall apartments have two, three or four bedrooms, so there may be another independent and another John there at the same time, although you will usually not see them. But most often, it will just be you and her.

The incall places used by escorts are scattered throughout the city. There is no red-light district, nor are there large, social gathering places for hundreds of people to have sex at the same time like in Germany. The women in Lisbon "manage" themselves and their business transactions, rather than having it managed for them.

Different than in many countries, but it works. Most of the Lisbon escorts speak and write in English. But it never hurts to use Google translate to send and read WhatsApp messages between English and Portuguese.

Catching up on reviews of some ladies I've seen recently.

Ruby Rodrigues.
This was a short-notice booking as I had some unexpected free time. She turned up 25 minutes later than the agreed time which wasn't great.

Ruby has her nipples pierced which is not something I like but other ladies I preferred weren't available at short notice. I did find Ruby attractive though, cute little body. She says she is 20 and I've no reason to doubt it. The EP pics are not a bad representation of her.

The service, however, wasn't brilliant as I explained earlier. Kissing was limited to pecks only as she told me she has a boyfriend that she's mad about, and feels kissing (let alone DFK) is too personal. She claimed sensitivity with her breasts at the start which I find really poor, but she did ease up later. Her BBBJ was good but she made sure to tell me there was absolutely no finishing in her mouth and not on her face either. I enjoyed going down on her (really fresh and clean), but no fingers were allowed. I did tell her that all these refused services (except CIM) were listed on her ad's, but she just shrugged and said she doesn't do them.

She seems to enjoy sex, enthusiastically going through various positions. However, there was another problem - a bit too much lube used which meant she didn't feel as tight as I'd like.

She is actually a really sweet girl and has a friendly personality. The type of girl that might make a dream girlfriend (ironic as the service wasn't really GFE!). Her English is limited but we did have a bit of chat during the meet.

Not someone I'll be seeing again as service too limited for me, and i really don't appreciate advertised services being refused.



Dalila Castro.
I was a bit disappointed when she turned up as I found her to be average looking facially. However, the service was brilliant and I'd probably see her again.

Her breasts are on the small side, but she has a bit of fat on her legs and ass which I quite liked. She's mid-20's rather than the 18 advertised on EP, but she could pass for being 20 or 21 in my opinion.

She kept initiating DFK throughout the meeting, her BBBJ was prolonged and excellent culminating with a finish in her mouth, and we went through 4 or 5 different positions.

She speaks perfect English, which I've never previously encountered with any Portuguese or Brazilian girl.

Just a great girl who gives a brilliant service with no issues whatsoever. I'd say I actually prefer a combination of average looks and brilliant service, to that of brilliant looks and average service. I'll definitely try and see her again, although I'm not sure she'll be around for too long.



Estela Nunes.
Another good meet with a very sweet girl. She looks 19 or 20 (didn't ask her age), has wonderful breasts and gives a good service. I'd say she is a bit more petite looking than her pictures suggest, and definitely not quite as attractive, but she has a nice face.

Her weak spot was the BBBJ which lacked pressure and depth, it did improve a bit after my instruction but still wasn't great. DFK was great, and when we went into a 69, she came to orgasm within a minute of me licking her! She's really flexible and the sex was great.

I would recommend her.


I then had an EP girl not show up for an appointment so I didn't use them for the remainder of the trip (no doubt I will still see EP girls in the future!) Did see a couple of non-EP girls as well who I'll report on later.

[QUOTE=ShiftTab;2958978]it seems most of the action in Lisbon is outcall. [/QUOTE]For foreigners visiting Portugal, maybe. But for the locals not really.

I would recommend Inês too.

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/