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[QUOTE=BabaBoo;1197785]Or if someone wants to show me the ropes / go to one of these places I'd appreciate the assistance.[/QUOTE]TOP GUN bar, jalan falatehan, Blok M area. Quit dicking around with mama / papasans, trying to give them your laundry list. It will get lost in translation, or, even if they do understand you, they will ignore your list and just try and set you up with any available girl. Choose any of the many girls Top Gun, tell her your laundry list (they understand "ass" in english means anal) , she will tell you what she will / will not do. She may refer you to a friend in the bar who can do those things for you. Move on to the next one until you find one who can do your stuff. A lot of guys don't like that protocol: telling multiple girls what they want until they get one who can do it. Who cares? The gals have heard it all. Nobody else will know what you are saying into the girl's ear (over the loud band). Cost will be 300-400k for ST. 600-800k for LT. Don't like any of the 100+ girls in Top Gun bar (THAT will be telling all by itself)? Walk across the street to the two other freelance bars. Put pics on your list of needs when you talk to the girls. Indo girls (unlike pinay) rarely say NO due to pics. They say no to other stuff on my list, but not to the money offer or pics (see my photos in that thread).

You will see girls in discos earlier in the evening, who ask for large amounts upwards of 1 million rp for ST (and get it from guys who either don't care the girl is gouging, or are naive and don't know she is). If she doesn't get a customer by, say, midnight-1am, she and her friends will taxi down to TG, and once there she will be fine with 350k for ST.

[QUOTE=Tbahn80;1197940]Anyone have any ideas for a mid-morning / afternoon shag? I am not into going to MP's and the such. Maybe a website to call a girl in? Thanks for any responses[/QUOTE]Go to Maribaya in Hotel Melawai. From about 11 am there are girls available (not for take out) with a shift change at around 6 pm.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1198005]Cost will be 300-400k for ST. 600-800k for LT.[/QUOTE]Westcoast, you old softy. 500k for long time, not a penny more, I say. Haha. But I suppose you do make them work extra hard.

First off thanks for the replies.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1198005]TOP GUN bar, jalan falatehan, Blok M area. Quit dicking around with mama / papasans, trying to give them your laundry list. It will get lost in translation, or, even if they do understand you, they will ignore your list and just try and set you up with any available girl. Choose any of the many girls Top Gun, tell her your laundry list (they understand "ass" in english means anal) , she will tell you what she will / will not do. She may refer you to a friend in the bar who can do those things for you. Move on to the next one until you find one who can do your stuff. A lot of guys don't like that protocol: telling multiple girls what they want until they get one who can do it. Who cares? The gals have heard it all. Nobody else will know what you are saying into the girl's ear (over the loud band). Cost will be 300-400k for ST. 600-800k for LT. Don't like any of the 100+ girls in Top Gun bar (THAT will be telling all by itself)? Walk across the street to the two other freelance bars. Put pics on your list of needs when you talk to the girls. Indo girls (unlike pinay) rarely say NO due to pics. They say no to other stuff on my list, but not to the money offer or pics (see my photos in that thread).

You will see girls in discos earlier in the evening, who ask for large amounts upwards of 1 million rp for ST (and get it from guys who either don't care the girl is gouging, or are naive and don't know she is). If she doesn't get a customer by, say, midnight-1am, she and her friends will taxi down to TG, and once there she will be fine with 350k for ST.[/QUOTE]I've nothing wrong with going through that process but as I've never really done this before I'm not sure if it is ok to just assume (and where to assume) that the girls are working girls. In Hotel Classic it was kind of obvious as they all wore 'uniforms' but in Hotel Alexis (may have been because I was there 'early') it seemed a mixture of more normal girls than working ones. I have no fear of upsetting working girls I just have no wish to upset some girls night out by being propositioned by a random white guy.

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two; 1197892]BabaBoo, if you speak reasonably good Indonesian, which it sounds like you do, then you've probably spent a fair bit of time here. So, do you have any more experienced friends who could show you around a bit? Considering, at a rough guess, around half of all male expats go out mongering at some stage, you probably do! If you're a bit shy, just ask around if anyone is interested in having a "drink" down in Kota. That should open the doors. Or maybe consider using JAD (Jakarta After Dark)? He's a guide who participates in this forum and gets good reviews. He's not that cheap, $100+ for an evening's tour, but if you are going to get introductions that you could use again later on your own, it might be worth. Particularly with your specialist interests (You dog, you!).

I never like fish bowls and line ups, I always prefer bars where you can go up and talk to the girls, you can screen the ones with the bad attitudes much better. Maybe try Berlian? That's easy enough.

Did you say you got a quote of Rp150, 000 for Alexis? Haha! You must be missing a zero! For 150, you'd be lucky to get a knee trembler on the railway line these days, not since 2002 or something like that.

Also, even though most people on ISG don't like to dwell on their failures that much, you do get occasional bad experiences, no matter much experience you have. With new girls, I'd say out of three, one is usually good, one is just okay, and one is pretty crappy from lineups and fishbowls. I get a better average than that at bars, though, hardly ever get a real bummer. (Again, considering your stated tastes, that might not be the right expression!). By the way, deep throat is pretty standard, but you might have better luck with slightly older girls than with the sweet young things (not always! But as a rule). Anal is not really standard, hit and miss, girls are often more willing to do it for you the second time you meet them, after they get the impression that you're not a jerk. A trick at Berlian is to ask for a threesome: select one girl first, tell her to find a second one for you, but make sure that her co-partner does anal. Next time, you can go straight for the three-holer.

Good luck on you travels.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips, my bahasa is good enough to pick up lokal girls easily enough and make lokal friends but I haven't been back here for 5 years so any friends I knew obviously I am not in contact with anymore. I might just end up using JAD as I REALLY don't have a problem with money or spending it to get what I want / need, picking up lokal girls is ok but finding those that are ok with anal and one that doesn't require 2 dates worth before getting to sex which they can only do on weekends because they have a 9-5 (I'm self employed so FREE TIME can kill you when you're by yourself).

Out of curiosity what's a fish bowl? Is that where the girls are all sitting on couches lining the walls like in Hotel Classic? I wouldn't mind an actual line-up, I could at least then get an initial facial reaction from the girls as to who is scared or who is a million miles away mentally.

It is what I heard for a single pop, no mention of 'juta' anywhere. I may have misinterpreted 'what' it was specifically for but again the boy was actually quite friendly in trying to get me some action unlike the fucking mama's at Hotel Classic. Also thanks for the trick, it does seem like I'm going to have to still do that whole 'second date' type approach before I get down to what I really want but at least this way it is a bit faster and on my timeframe.

[QUOTE=El Greco; 1197830]Try this.

[url]http://www.jakarta100bars.com/2010/01/berlian-massage-parlour-panti-pijat.html[/url]

[url]http://www.streetdirectory.co.id/indonesia/jakarta/travel/travel_id_179977/travel_site_107258/travel_no_Blok[/url]

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On that small street between MANGGA BESAR RAYA and KEBON JERUK 19.

Ask the old papa and he will help you choosing the right one.

KARTIKA, another similar place, only a few meters away. But try BERLIAN first.

STADIUM is close by as you can see on the map.[/QUOTE]Is the papa here actually helpful? That pushy mama really made me want to punch her in the face at Hotel Classic but I REALLY just needed to get my dick into something. Not even cum, if I just got 'in' a girl I could tell my brain that it has had sex and that would tide me over.

Still I'll try Top Gun and Berlian. Would just like to know if I can just approach anyone and start talking before I go there, whatever the usual protocol is would be appreciated. A description of the process as such as at the end of the day it would just make me more comfortable, even though eating pizza is a simple process if you've never seen one before you'd still like to know the best way to eat it before you tuck in.

Don't know how to edit my posts, no obvious controls so hmm.

Anyway my question here is that Hotel Classic / Alexis had music that made conversation a pain in the ass. I hate fumbling back forth with 'what? ' as it just drags the process out and it can take some steam out of you if you go through girls and keep going 'what' every 3rd sentence. Is Top Gun / Berlian the same?

[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1198040]Go to Maribaya in Hotel Melawai. From about 11 am there are girls available (not for take out) with a shift change at around 6 pm.

Regards,

Ko[/QUOTE]Thanks Ko.

Thanks Ko. Will try it out

[QUOTE=BabaBoo; 1198135]I've nothing wrong with going through that process but as I've never really done this before I'm not sure if it is ok to just assume (and where to assume) that the girls are working girls. In Hotel Classic it was kind of obvious as they all wore 'uniforms' but in Hotel Alexis (may have been because I was there 'early') it seemed a mixture of more normal girls than working ones. I have no fear of upsetting working girls I just have no wish to upset some girls night out by being propositioned by a random white guy.

Still I'll try Top Gun and Berlian. Would just like to know if I can just approach anyone and start talking before I go there, whatever the usual protocol is would be appreciated. A description of the process as such as at the end of the day it would just make me more comfortable, even though eating pizza is a simple process if you've never seen one before you'd still like to know the best way to eat it before you tuck in.[/QUOTE]Top Gun, and the two bars across the street (My Bar and D's Place) are freelance bars (like Manila Bay Cafe in Manila). Every girl in the place is a working girl. Takes all the guess-work out of the game. Unlike the discos, where you never know which girl is working.

[QUOTE=BabaBoo;1198135]Out of curiosity what's a fish bowl? Is that where the girls are all sitting on couches lining the walls like in Hotel Classic? I wouldn't mind an actual line-up, I could at least then get an initial facial reaction from the girls as to who is scared or who is a million miles away mentally.[/QUOTE]A real fish-bowl is when there is a window and you look through at girls sitting around, yawning and playing with their mobiles. Hotel Classic is "fish-bowl like". Yes, with a line up you get a bit more interaction, but not much. They usually have strict rules about the girls not pushing ahead of each other.

Westcoast is right about Top Gun. You are unlikely to see a girl swoon away with shock and horror because of your crude proposition. If the client looks like he needs the GFE, then most of them are happy to oblige, if they want to go straight down to business, that's okay too (for what it's worth, they generally prefer a businesslike approach, less trouble. Nothing worse for them than a punter who chats for a while and can't make up his mind or bottles at the last minute.)

I have never been in Jakarta but want to go there for "entertainment" end of January.

I heard about Blok M. Is this the right place for meet prostitutes?

What girlfriendly Hotel (4 Star) is recommed?

Thankyou for information.

[QUOTE=Liggi1; 1198248]I have never been in Jakarta but want to go there for "entertainment" end of January.

I heard about Blok M. Is this the right place for meet prostitutes?

What girlfriendly Hotel (4 Star) is recommed?

Thankyou for information.[/QUOTE]Blok M is fine, take taxi to Jalan Felatahan, or Jalan Fellatio. Top Gun seems the best, but D's Place across the road is less loud, and My Bar is also a chance. For 4 star hotel I usually use Le Meridien, it is owned by the same as Sheraton / Westin etc, but with a french name the local idiots don't think abouy trying to remodel it. The Tiga Pulah disco downstairs in this hotel I have usually found something, but I believe it has gone off a bit. Very GF hotel.

Hi All.

Am a regular traveller to JAKRTA. Last time the Today country ws closed. Does anyone know if its re opened? One of the girls I know from there say theres a new place in Hotel Lokasari, any one know this place? Is there any place similiar to TC around.

FOG

[QUOTE=Liggi1;1198248]I heard about Blok M. Is this the right place for meet prostitutes?[/QUOTE]I do believe you should be able to find some of those there.

[QUOTE=FogHorn69; 1198262]Hi All.

Am a regular traveller to JAKRTA. Last time the Today country ws closed. Does anyone know if its re opened? One of the girls I know from there say theres a new place in Hotel Lokasari, any one know this place? Is there any place similiar to TC around.

FOG[/QUOTE]I can confirm as of 2 days ago Today Country is still in the form a construction site although the renovations which have gone on at Lokasari Plaza make it much more refreshing and a better mall.

[QUOTE=FogHorn69; 1198262]Hi All.

Am a regular traveller to JAKRTA. Last time the Today country ws closed. Does anyone know if its re opened? One of the girls I know from there say theres a new place in Hotel Lokasari, any one know this place? Is there any place similiar to TC around.

FOG[/QUOTE]To FOG.

TC been closed for almost 2 yr now don't think it will reopen, I don't why you like this place so much most of the girl there is too young and serivce is lousy anyway, there is Millie disco a late night pick up place in the plaza and so many place for pick up like Hotel travel and stadium near by and you miss TC are you sure you go to Jarkata alot.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1198429]To FOG.

TC been closed for almost 2 yr now don't think it will reopen, I don't why you like this place so much most of the girl there is too young and serivce is lousy anyway, there is Millie disco a late night pick up place in the plaza and so many place for pick up like Hotel travel and stadium near by and you miss TC are you sure you go to Jarkata alot.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Thanks, it was a good afternoon bar but I also found one similiar to TC . As U-turn left at KFC and walk around by the massage places and cross the road,

Rooms upstairs are ok, I forget the name but will update on next trip.

FOG