FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1767634]What's a bit puzzling is that some of these daily attendees don't seem to take all that many sessions. OK, as Dufey explained a few days ago, some local men come to the clubs for more than just sex, I. E. Relaxation, meeting friends, nice day at a club, food and drinks, wellness, massage, nude girls to gawk at, Yadda Yadda. But as people have been discussing Mr. J, or hermaphrodite as some have (unfairly? Labeled him, or the Younger Turk I mentioned, they seem to be there practically every day, and I see them taking very few sessions at all. Why spend 70 E a day, which can add upto several thousands a year at the rate they attend, and not take many or any sessions? To me, the 70 E is a waste of money, which I NEED to spend to get a shot at the girls. Anyway, just seems strange to me.[/QUOTE]I dunno if we are referring to the same guy(as a young Turk), but there was one dude sitting where Janine and Patrizia were. He was hanging in the couch with them. There are young attractive nude girls in the club, which is a reason for coming down. I'm sure there are guys in the states that frequents strip clubs has their favorite girls there they spend lots of money on, but this is many times better. The old baldies sound like they come everyday, although I haven't paid much attention to the guys sitting around her. An oldie hanging around a 19 yr old girl is a good reason why they would show up frequently. GT girls complain about guys that show up everyday without doing rooms drinking beer and hanging out. They got good meals, included beer, and place to relax and of course bunch of girls around too. 60 Euros for all that. If you attend nearly everyday, might as well buy multiple entry cards if available.

You got to think, if you are tourist that has limited time, you try to make the most of it there. Those that live locally have access to this anytime they wish. I probably would bored of attending the same club so frequently if I was a local.

Why are you so interested and often jealous about others, look at them under shower and no need to be jealous, live your own life, meet your own attractive girls and have behavior to get the best from girls, don t be so childish: I want same like him, just enjoy your life. FKK are toys store for men with brain, not for animals just falling from the tree who will be fucked by girls because they know this client is stupid and easy.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;1767359]This Winter, he was sleeping on a girl, as often, wearing a blue robe, and with hair, I couldn't see him. I was chating with a girl and I asked her, she answered: it's a girl. I see sometimes women coming with men at Sharks or World, but no man was close to him, so I said to the girl and she answered: half man, half woman. I answered her: lucky one, I would like to be like that to know what is to be a woman, to have knowledge about both and power. Then, I can enjoy only with myself. She said me I was crazy and didn't seem to like my dream. I agree when he is without robe, not pretty enough to go to room with him.
[/QUOTE]You are crazy. Its all based on a bullshit joke by some girl. He clearly is not at all feminine looking. One of the friendliest customers in the club, if not number 1.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1767634]What's a bit puzzling is that some of these daily attendees don't seem to take all that many sessions. OK, as Dufey explained a few days ago, some local men come to the clubs for more than just sex, I. E. Relaxation, meeting friends, nice day at a club, food and drinks, wellness, massage, nude girls to gawk at, Yadda Yadda. But as people have been discussing Mr. J, or hermaphrodite as some have (unfairly? Labeled him, or the Younger Turk I mentioned, they seem to be there practically every day, and I see them taking very few sessions at all. Why spend 70 E a day, which can add upto several thousands a year at the rate they attend, and not take many or any sessions? To me, the 70 E is a waste of money, which I NEED to spend to get a shot at the girls. Anyway, just seems strange to me.[/QUOTE]It is totally real. I left Sharks last night with a friend taking him home. I asked where does he want to go tomorrow and he said not Oase as the food is shit. He prefers World where they make hamburger or Sharks because of the nice drinks. No mention of needing girls.

Talking to some regulars like Hermaphrodite he said to come to Sharks tomorrow. It is better than Oase for relax was his opinion. Once again no discussion on girls. It is all secondary since in each club there is enough girls.

Another regular says when he come to the club he says he can fuck maybe 9 out of 10 girls. He has enough. I say I can barely touch 3 girls with his cock and I am not happy. So he has much choice and I have little choice.

See the difference in perspective?

[QUOTE=McAdonis;1767631]This is a common sentiment amongst the girls--particularly the younger ones. To them, men who can devote such free time to pay sex, must be losers, who have no life. Some of them hide their disgust quite well. Their stance is that they do this job because they need the money but men on the other hand do not have an excuse. This shouldn't be a revelation. More than one girl has said this to me. It's usually when they are frustrated with business that I become the benefactor of this stream of consciousness.

My take is us mongers just like to have sex with attractive women. For most of us, even the mid-or-lower tier girls, would not be obtainable in real-life without money.

They look down on us like a drug dealer looks down on a junkie.

But yes you are right. It is one thing for society as a whole to look down on us as a group, but you would expect WGs to not be so hypocritical. Without us "losers", there would be no FKK clubs for them to work at.[/QUOTE]Everyone is looking for some fun. Its just an addiction or compulsive habit.

Sure I never got so much sex in my private life. I have spent time a girl that was better than all these FKK girls but she picked a younger very rich sporty man to settle down with. She was out of my league but still liked me enough to play with me part time when she had lots of options to choose from. Still a good friend but not available any more.

There is always strong competition for super girls. I never managed to win against hot competition or was taking too long to decide.

My young married life was a horror story. Some of us are catching up for youth lost opportunities.

Some of us relate to women badly. We like seeing then naked and fucking them, but have little other use for them. Conversation can be over rated with many people. Many like to speak but not to listen. Not real communication.

In real life the windows of opportunity to best girls are all too short. You settle down with some girl and soon she takes you for granted and service drops off badly. Better to outsource the sex instead.

I have a beautiful long term girlfriend not in Germany with excellent body and would be very happy if she wanted to fuck me daily. I always look forward to her being naked with me. Alas she is shy but can get 10 orgasms in a relatively short session and that will like last her a week. By tomorrow I will be horny again. We are not totally suited sexually. She is very sensitive. I am not. I like a 90 minute session. She likes no more than 30 to 40 minutes.

So I try to outsource additional sex due to indadequacies in my personal life. I am not a full blown adict as right now have gone 3 weeks in my home country with no sex and I have not thought about going to look for a nice asian hooker. To much effort and not good value here.

The only issues for me about mongering habit is ifficulty to keep a woman from suspecting, and the cost. Rich guys can afford to go to club daily if they have nothing interesting to do. Its not about winners ir losers. It's just like going to your favourite sports pub or gaming saloon.


It always remains a mystery why there should be any stigma attached to buying and selling of sex. It's just an entertainment service industry. USA attitudes are just totally stuffed by religious clap trap. Being a hooker is just another job.

I will never change from liking beautiful girls to be naked all the time, even if have no sexual thoughts about them.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1767594]At a between session feed a couple Sundays ago, in the midst of three girls having this conversation where they're pointing out all the guys who they say come every day -- every day! And they just can't understand it: these men 'have no private life' is their conclusion. And they feel bad for these guys. No private life! Meanwhile, here they are swanning around and taking on all comers. Sometimes in these places, there's just no sense of perspective.[/QUOTE]Yes, this is a common feeling of the girls who come to the clubs. Customers are losers and they deserve to have their monrh taken from them for random services if any are given if they can get away with it.

Even I wonder if some of the regulars have any private life. Like the German man from Bavaria that goes to clubs 300 times a year or Swiss man who near does the same.

Including even the Godfather.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1767697]Everyone is looking for some fun. Its just an addiction or compulsive habit.

Sure I never got so much sex in my private life. I have spent time a girl that was better than all these FKK girls but she picked a younger very rich sporty man to settle down with. She was out of my league but still liked me enough to play with me part time when she had lots of options to choose from. Still a good friend but not available any more.

There is always strong competition for super girls. I never managed to win against hot competition or was taking too long to decide.

My young married life was a horror story. Some of us are catching up for youth lost opportunities.

Some of us relate to women badly. We like seeing then naked and fucking them, but have little other use for them. Conversation can be over rated with many people. Many like to speak but not to listen. Not real communication.

In real life the windows of opportunity to best girls are all too short. You settle down with some girl and soon she takes you for granted and service drops off badly. Better to outsource the sex instead.

I have a beautiful long term girlfriend not in Germany with excellent body and would be very happy if she wanted to fuck me daily. I always look forward to her being naked with me. Alas she is shy but can get 10 orgasms in a relatively short session and that will like last her a week. By tomorrow I will be horny again. We are not totally suited sexually. She is very sensitive. I am not. I like a 90 minute session. She likes no more than 30 to 40 minutes.

So I try to outsource additional sex due to indadequacies in my personal life. I am not a full blown adict as right now have gone 3 weeks in my home country with no sex and I have not thought about going to look for a nice asian hooker. To much effort and not good value here.

The only issues for me about mongering habit is ifficulty to keep a woman from suspecting, and the cost. Rich guys can afford to go to club daily if they have nothing interesting to do. Its not about winners ir losers. It's just like going to your favourite sports pub or gaming saloon.


It always remains a mystery why there should be any stigma attached to buying and selling of sex. It's just an entertainment service industry. USA attitudes are just totally stuffed by religious clap trap. Being a hooker is just another job.

I will never change from liking beautiful girls to be naked all the time, even if have no sexual thoughts about them.[/QUOTE]Thank you master Syzy for sharing yr wisdom with us. Rly enjoyed reading this!

All good things must cum to an end even a horror marriage, LOL.

[QUOTE=Exodus8;1767769]Thank you master Syzy for sharing yr wisdom with us. Rly enjoyed reading this!
[/QUOTE]Yes, I have been interested to read people's views on why they do this. Me? I am one of the few people that I know who after 20 years has a happy marriage, with a woman who is still a great friend, who I am still attracted to, and who is easy to live with. So why do I risk that? Not sure that I can answer that satisfactorily. My trips to the clubs last one or two days, maybe 8 to 10 times a year. My work allows me complete flexibility and cover for my trips.

I believe that my motives are different to most men. So the girls often tell me anyway. I like to spend very long sessions with girls that I have made a connection with, and who obviously enjoy spending time with me. Yes we have sex, but it is almost secondary to my enjoyment of a perfect female body and intimate companionship. It can take a while to find the right partner as some girls seem to find that a bit weird! I also enjoy a break from my life, some time relaxing on my own, seeing hot, naked girls, and the travel.

I don't judge anyone who attends (unless they are disrespectful towards the girls), nor do I judge the girls who work at the clubs. The girls often judge the men because they can be treated badly by the men, and have to maintain a feeling of superiority. I understand this behaviour. I am grateful for the locals who attend often or daily as it enables these clubs to continue to exist. The existence of these clubs prevents me in having any motivation to engage in sex outside of my marriage in my day-to-day life. In my head it is a different part of my life that I service every month or two. I enjoy planning my trips and the anticipation. Nobody in my normal life is aware of my hobby.

I truly believe that this hobby enables me to be a better husband, but I doubt my wife would agree.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;1767587]I'm living in the wrong neighborhood if Sandra is just GND in looks. Guess Syzygies will have to delete the S from his PARKS acronym now.[/QUOTE]It's all a matter of perspective. Where I'm from she is very GND. Not putting her down though, great session.

Hey Frozty,

Good post. (Syz I liked your post too.) I have some similar thoughts and sentiments although there are some differences in life circumstances we have some similarities. So you are not alone. Your perspective makes sense. Thanks for the contribution.

I've been asked 6 times by working girls to be their boyfriends. Twice in thailand (where everyone gets asked, but these two actually ment it. While 20 others didn't). 2 times at Macau sauna clubs (FKK's of Asia), and 2 times by FKK girls. So they cannot all be looking at us like loosers. They do however look at some punters as loosers if they don't look good enough. FKK girls in general seem to be very oriented towards liking men with muscles. Not that I am too strong, although in asia that doesn't take much.

Like with most things in life a bell curve can most likely explain the variation in WG and John behavior. There will always be exceptions to rule in what the large amount of men and women are looking for at these places. The bulk of patrons and workers are most likely looking for what is offered at face value. $$$ for Sex.

As for your examples Pistons: The hard thing is how to know for sure... FKK land is also about illusion and fantasy. I'm sure some of us have fooled ourselves (or let ourselves be fooled), happily or unhappily. Pistons, did any of these girls stop accepting money from you? Did you ever start "going dutch" with any of them? That would be a pretty clear indication that they didn't want you for your money. Although perhaps not, maybe there is a "longer game" strategy. Since I assume you never explored that route far enough you can never know for sure that it was "real. " Fantasy land has its appeal.

I like the phrase: "In one way or another you pay for it. " It being sex. It's not necessarily TRUE, but it follows the bell curve I bet, so it's true most of the time, especially if you include other forms of payment than money.

[QUOTE=Pistons;1767815]I've been asked 6 times by working girls to be their boyfriends. Twice in thailand (where everyone gets asked, but these two actually ment it. While 20 others didn't). 2 times at Macau sauna clubs (FKK's of Asia), and 2 times by FKK girls. So they cannot all be looking at us like loosers. They do however look at some punters as loosers if they don't look good enough. FKK girls in general seem to be very oriented towards liking men with muscles. Not that I am too strong, although in asia that doesn't take much.[/QUOTE]

I went dutch, as in no money with all the 4 asians I mentionned (ofcourse, otherwise, it would be like you said). Come to think of it, I also went dutch with 2 massagegirls at the macau saunas looking for a husband... As for the european FKK girls, it didn't get that far. But I know it would if I had gone for it.

Asia is easier in this regard in general though... (and size does matter)

[QUOTE=Frozty;1767799]Yes, I have been interested to read people's views on why they do this. Me? I am one of the few people that I know who after 20 years has a happy marriage, with a woman who is still a great friend, who I am still attracted to, and who is easy to live with. So why do I risk that? Not sure that I can answer that satisfactorily. My trips to the clubs last one or two days, maybe 8 to 10 times a year. My work allows me complete flexibility and cover for my trips.

I believe that my motives are different to most men. So the girls often tell me anyway. I like to spend very long sessions with girls that I have made a connection with, and who obviously enjoy spending time with me. Yes we have sex, but it is almost secondary to my enjoyment of a perfect female body and intimate companionship. It can take a while to find the right partner as some girls seem to find that a bit weird! I also enjoy a break from my life, some time relaxing on my own, seeing hot, naked girls, and the travel.

I don't judge anyone who attends (unless they are disrespectful towards the girls), nor do I judge the girls who work at the clubs. The girls often judge the men because they can be treated badly by the men, and have to maintain a feeling of superiority. I understand this behaviour. I am grateful for the locals who attend often or daily as it enables these clubs to continue to exist. The existence of these clubs prevents me in having any motivation to engage in sex outside of my marriage in my day-to-day life. In my head it is a different part of my life that I service every month or two. I enjoy planning my trips and the anticipation. Nobody in my normal life is aware of my hobby.

I truly believe that this hobby enables me to be a better husband, but I doubt my wife would agree.[/QUOTE]Thanks for yr post Mr Frozty!

I blv married guys go clubbing bc they don't feel attracted to their wives anymore, don't get enough sex without alot of hassle, get bored etc.

So you are saying that the existence of FKK saved yr marriage? Haha j / k.

Not sure if I ever want to get married the thought of settling down with one pussy makes me sad, LOL. Well I suppose it wud be nice to have someone to share stufff in yr life.

[QUOTE=Pistons;1767815]I've been asked 6 times by working girls to be their boyfriends. Twice in thailand (where everyone gets asked, but these two actually ment it. While 20 others didn't). 2 times at Macau sauna clubs (FKK's of Asia), and 2 times by FKK girls. So they cannot all be looking at us like loosers. They do however look at some punters as loosers if they don't look good enough. FKK girls in general seem to be very oriented towards liking men with muscles. Not that I am too strong, although in asia that doesn't take much.[/QUOTE]Well if you are alrite looking, a nice guy then they want you to become their human ATM, LOL.

If you are filthy rich and 90 yrs old then they want to marry you ASAP and wait. (anna nicole smith).

[QUOTE=Exodus8;1767912]
Well if you are alrite looking, a nice guy then they want you to become their human ATM, LOL.

If you are filthy rich and 90 yrs old then they want to marry you ASAP and wait. (anna nicole smith).[/QUOTE]Very true. One of the chinese girls said something that made me think as well though. 1. She wanted to marry my dick, but not the rest of me. 2. She never had the time to go partying. All she did was work at the sauna (18 sauna), and sometimes she went gambling at the same casino. I guess that last part could be dangerous though, although she wanted to move back to her province if she got someone too. Six months after she asked me, I heard at the same place that she had left to get married. Same went for one of the massage girls (viet).

In China there is a whole pyramid of prostitution where they advance in levels. Starting out maybe at 16 at some local joint. In a way it is somewhat the same as the FKK market, especially for the romanian girls, although more advanced in China, and much more trafficing at the earlier stages although it turns voluntarily after awhile when they've paid back their debt (visa / trafficing debt). So most, maybe 90% of the sauna girls have moved past that, and are fine with it. ALthough some do hate it and want to move back to farm life and no income. Perhaps with a stallion. In the philippines, where they are the most religious and least liberal, most of the girls want this though. Also because it is the most trafficed mongering place in the world too probably, per capita. (In thailand it is by the most part voluntarily). I do hope that it is voluntarily in romania too though, although there was that story in Paradise awhile back with a few girls. It is hard to tell, and some also get sick of all the fucking because it makes them feel like a 40 year old. So they want to experience just less sex in the daily life, even though they love the money it brings in.