[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2778011]Going to Pattaya on April 15th from EWR. Anyone traveling during that time.[/QUOTE]So you are going for Songkran, worst period of the year IME. Have fun with the water.
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[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2778011]Going to Pattaya on April 15th from EWR. Anyone traveling during that time.[/QUOTE]So you are going for Songkran, worst period of the year IME. Have fun with the water.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2778002]I do not think that is a thing anymore. I did not show any stinking vaccine card. Maybe it depends on which country you go through.[/QUOTE]Why are your experience s so different from the rest of us.
When required I always had my stinking card checked.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2778152]So you are going for Songkran, worst period of the year IME. Have fun with the water.[/QUOTE]LOL, AGREED. Fun ONCE, BKK. But upcountry, I enjoyed, old school, "respectful". A squirt or a sprinkling of water, not a soaking. Powder dabbed on face, not a total dusting. You are a participant, not a target. YMMV.
[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2778068]1st of all they don't got you "literally" by the balls (unless "they" is some chick that actually got your balls in her hand when you wrote that.).
2nd of all. Seems that without a vaccin you can fly. Just get a test on arrival.
TiT to the max. It seems to change and shift every hour at the moment. Better keep an eye on some facebookgroups and all.
Offical note to Airline companies contains this since today:
5. The airlines must check the documents as required. If passenger fails to produce document proving these requirements are met, the passenger is subjected to be tested at the port of arrival.
Source: [URL]https://www.icao.int/safety/istars/pages/notams.aspx?fbclid=IwAR053Wlfh7tidSQ94QRZMPSFybmMveuAmf8bWl9_gKr8Am-Tr8BGsLQAjPo[/URL].[/QUOTE]Doubtful, highly doubtful.
Thailand has not mentioned anywhere in published guidance that they will accept a test on arrival in lieu of vaccination.
Also, the link you provided doesn't provide any mention of covid guidance or even Thailand that I can find in the content.
Uturn from Thailand.
[URL]https://www.tatnews.org/2023/01/thailand-maintains-fully-reopen-entry-rules/?fbclid=IwAR1eSLslJhF5_M1JRNLH6ndy4l24RNz2wIG3M_ykzZHrf9MD_XfJBJzKKmY[/URL]
So all restrictions are waived. Nothing changed. Nothing needed. Ready to go!
Going to Thailand on 15 January. I am from Belgium.
Anyone there from Netherlands or Belgium?
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/thailand-rescinds-entry-requirement-proof-covid-vaccination-minister-2023-01-09/[/URL]
Whew, I was worried because it seems to be much harder to get the single shot by J&J. Plus, I'm holding out as long as possible. No shot for me!
To the dude with zero humor. I'm sure you're a real joy to be around. My balls comment is more in reference to the anticipated fun to be had with the ladies. If you can't see how balls plays a part then I don’t know what to tell ya.
[QUOTE=ChaChumplin;2778166]Why are your experience s so different from the rest of us.
When required I always had my stinking card checked.[/QUOTE]No idea. Maybe it was not required in November. I went to Thailand from Korea. The lady was concerned whether I had a visa for some reason. I just showed her my Thai drivers license and she was like ok fine. Then she asked about my dad and I said he does not have one. She did some stuff in the computer and was like okay. She never asked anything about a vaccination.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2778152]So you are going for Songkran, worst period of the year IME. Have fun with the water.[/QUOTE]Plus 1 bro. A nationwide drunk, with waterfights in urban areas and the worst in Pattaya? In some of the worst heat?
In 30 years, I've done Songkran and one full rainy season, in muddy Siem Reap no less, but with a virtually private pool.
Have fun.
UPDATE: Monday 3 pm – Thai Public Health minister Anutin Charnvirakul has CANCELLED the need to provide proof of Covid vaccination certificates before entering Thailand on all flights or across borders.
The announcement, made around 3 pm today, was EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. The announcement follows three changes to the policy in as many days.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2778342]No idea. Maybe it was not required in November. I went to Thailand from Korea. The lady was concerned whether I had a visa for some reason. I just showed her my Thai drivers license and she was like ok fine. Then she asked about my dad and I said he does not have one. She did some stuff in the computer and was like okay. She never asked anything about a vaccination.[/QUOTE]Wasn't required in November. No need to show visa nor vaccination card at check-in, neither for initial flight nor connecting flight. No vaccination card check on arrival, no landing card, no customs declaration form. Just gave hardcopy of visa to immigration officer and he filled out everything.
Wow.
Shameless.
In a normal democracy such incompetence from a government minister would see him sacked. Ok well some normal democracies.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2778528]UPDATE: Monday 3 pm Thai Public Health minister Anutin Charnvirakul has CANCELLED the need to provide proof of Covid vaccination certificates before entering Thailand on all flights or across borders.
The announcement, made around 3 pm today, was EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. The announcement follows three changes to the policy in as many days.[/QUOTE]
So today I was at one of the public laundromats. I was washing clothes and needed to buy small detergent packets. There is a small section in the laundromat where they sell these packets plus they will also do you laundry for you like a regular laundry shop. I go up the lady who was walking around this small section (chatting on the phone), I took two packets and gave her 10 baht for both. Then she walked around the laundromat still yapping on her phone. I saw there was a microwave in the public area of this small section. There was also coffee in a thermos and styrofoam cups with cream and sugar. It looked like a waiting area. Anyways, I had some pizza slices (still in its to go container) that I bought 10 minutes ago from a shop about 15 meters away. It was a bit cold, so I used the microwave for about minute. During that time, she walked in and asked what am I waiting for? I said I am using the microwave to finish. Then she flips out and says that's for guests. I said, I am doing laundry. She's says guests that live here. I said "here?" Apparently it's also a guesthouse / laundromat. I said "oh, I didn't know. " And even apologized "sorry." She continues to raise her voice and berate me telling me how I could have broken the microwave and stuff. I meant she kept on and on and on, even after I told her I really didn't know. Everything is in a public area. I wanted to tell her to calm down and it's not the big of a deal. But that would probably just piss her off even more. As I was walking away back to my clothes, you can still hear her going on and on in Thai loudly. Anybody that is a resident here and know the Thai behavior well. Why did she act like that when it was really an honest mistake? Microwave in the public area of laundromat that apparently has a guesthouse in the back or up the stairs. Strange I thought.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2778690]So today I was at one of the public laundromats. I was washing clothes and needed to buy small detergent packets... [/QUOTE]I wisch I have your problems. LOL.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2778690] She continues to raise her voice and berate me [/QUOTE]Very unusual for Thai person to raise their voice. Except for the bar scene, I cannot remember a Thai woman ever raising her voice to a visitor.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2778744]Very unusual for Thai person to raise their voice. Except for the bar scene, I cannot remember a Thai woman ever raising her voice to a visitor.[/QUOTE]Yes that is really extraordinary.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2778744]Very unusual for Thai person to raise their voice. Except for the bar scene, I cannot remember a Thai woman ever raising her voice to a visitor.[/QUOTE]You have just not been in the right place at the right time. I have seen it plenty of times.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2778766]You have just not been in the right place at the right time. I have seen it plenty of times.[/QUOTE]It is not socially acceptable for a Thai to show anger in public. If they do, it means that they are out of control.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2778690]So today I was at one of the public laundromats. I was washing clothes and needed to buy small detergent packets. There is a small section in the laundromat where they sell these packets plus they will also do you laundry for you like a regular laundry shop. I go up the lady who was walking around this small section (chatting on the phone), I took two packets and gave her 10 baht for both. Then she walked around the laundromat still yapping on her phone. I saw there was a microwave in the public area of this small section. There was also coffee in a thermos and styrofoam cups with cream and sugar. It looked like a waiting area. Anyways, I had some pizza slices (still in its to go container) that I bought 10 minutes ago from a shop about 15 meters away. It was a bit cold, so I used the microwave for about minute. During that time, she walked in and asked what am I waiting for? I said I am using the microwave to finish. Then she flips out and says that's for guests. I said, I am doing laundry. She's says guests that live here. I said "here?" Apparently it's also a guesthouse / laundromat. I said "oh, I didn't know. " And even apologized "sorry." She continues to raise her voice and berate me telling me how I could have broken the microwave and stuff. I meant she kept on and on and on, even after I told her I really didn't know. Everything is in a public area. I wanted to tell her to calm down and it's not the big of a deal. But that would probably just piss her off even more. As I was walking away back to my clothes, you can still hear her going on and on in Thai loudly. Anybody that is a resident here and know the Thai behavior well. Why did she act like that when it was really an honest mistake? Microwave in the public area of laundromat that apparently has a guesthouse in the back or up the stairs. Strange I thought.[/QUOTE]She was likely having a bad day or week and decided to take it out on you. And her bad day / week likely was money related as that's all they care about in Pattaya.
The ladies I know who work bar in Pattaya are getting worn down by the crowds of customers. Just too many of them, and no one can afford to take a day off and miss a payday.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2778840]She was likely having a bad day or week and decided to take it out on you. And her bad day / week likely was money related as that's all they care about in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]True Thai right there. They really do think we are inferior.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2778838]It is not socially acceptable for a Thai to show anger in public. If they do, it means that they are out of control.[/QUOTE]You mean back home in the province or in other cities. Remember that Pattaya is a long way from the "real" Thailand. You can not compare what goes on in "proper" Thai culture to what happens in Pattaya.
Sadly, this is more than a case of the lady having a bad day. In the tourist area in the real Thai world from my experience living with Thais, it is more common than one thinks. You see stories on Youtube about incidents. In general, Thais are walking time bombs especially if something is said or done by a foreigner the stuff you read in the tourist brochures is just for shows like " Mai Pen Rai, Wai ".
Thais don't practice what they preach.
Things we learn in the West that are so taken for granted that the minimum is too hard to obtain by the majority of Thais which are the poor.
A couple of weeks ago, I bought a ladydrink for a lady working on Skaw Beach (near TreeTown). I had a "date" with another lady soon, so it was just one drink. I did get her Facebook contact, though.
Today, she posted, and I realized she was a ladyboy.
Oops. I was totally fooled.
Update: So after a 30 HR trip, I finally made it Pattaya. Landed in BKK at midnight. Got a taxi from the kiosk. Driver had a custom racing Momo wheel and drove like he needed it. Paid 1900 thb for the taxi probably over paid, but I just wanted to die in my bed.
Boring stuff no one cares.
Got a sub to TF, definitely worth it but hard to utilize if your looking for anything other than the normal mombo. Most girls quote 1500 to 2 k for ST. If anal 3 k. But, the one girl I got to do LT +anal for 3 k. She bait and switched me. Pics were definitely when she was younger and refused anal during. She was worth it. She definitely worked for the money, but we were both dead so we agreed to do 2 k and she could go.
Hello all,
I'll be in Thailand for 16 nights, going to Bangkok, chiang mai, and Pattaya. Which of these two islands do you prefer for 2 or 3 nights? Was planning on going to Koh Chang but now reconsidering?
Appreciate any insight.
LK.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2778995]Sadly, this is more than a case of the lady having a bad day. In the tourist area in the real Thai world from my experience living with Thais, it is more common than one thinks. You see stories on Youtube about incidents. In general, Thais are walking time bombs especially if something is said or done by a foreigner the stuff you read in the tourist brochures is just for shows like " Mai Pen Rai, Wai ".
Thais don't practice what they preach.
Things we learn in the West that are so taken for granted that the minimum is too hard to obtain by the majority of Thais which are the poor.[/QUOTE]Not only tourist areas I think. If you read the news stories about Thai people's road rage and stupid fights about minor issues leading to even stabbing or shooting, it is fairly common also among Thais also.
My theory about this has been that for whatever reason, the personality development from child to adult thru adolescence for some reason has jammed to earlier stages (child or adolescent) for larger percentage of population than in the west, and as a result you have a child or teenager mind in an adult body. Maybe someone in psychiatric field could comment further about reasons and statistics; I am pretty sure someone has done some scientific research on this though the topic is sensitive as it would immediately be judged racist.
This is the very reason that I avoid any argumentation with Thais even in situations that they are totally wrong or at fault. They will never admit, and if bad luck when got one those with adolescent psyche. Odds are too low for you to win (you simply can not win with rational reasoning). Best just get out and move ahead, even with minor financial loss. Also applies to hookers not delivering as promised.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2779203]Not only tourist areas I think. If you read the news stories about Thai people's road rage and stupid fights about minor issues leading to even stabbing or shooting, it is fairly common also among Thais also.
My theory about this has been that for whatever reason, the personality development from child to adult thru adolescence for some reason has jammed to earlier stages (child or adolescent) for larger percentage of population than in the west, and as a result you have a child or teenager mind in an adult body. Maybe someone in psychiatric field could comment further about reasons and statistics; I am pretty sure someone has done some scientific research on this though the topic is sensitive as it would immediately be judged racist.
This is the very reason that I avoid any argumentation with Thais even in situations that they are totally wrong or at fault. They will never admit, and if bad luck when got one those with adolescent psyche. Odds are too low for you to win (you simply can not win with rational reasoning). Best just get out and move ahead, even with minor financial loss. Also applies to hookers not delivering as promised.[/QUOTE]Not just Thais but everywhere. You see it on Facebook and Tik Tok. People acting out and have mental collapses. Reason why? Because all of our minds do not function the same. Some lack the ability to process empathy, sympathy, and are left with just the ego. I am always right and everyone is wrong is ego. Empathy would be perhaps if I was in that person's place and didn't know this was also a hotel in which the receptionist is trying to make extra cash by selling soap and doing people's laundry, then I would let it slide. Not a big deal. But honestly, I think she really couldn't empathize. I thought about telling her I was mentally retarded and should have started drooling and let my tongue stick out from the side of mouth. But I remember my goal. Heat this cold pizza up for 1 minute. So I stalled. Apologized. Until the one minute was up. And then walked away.
The downside for me when I barfine a lady for a few weeks is that I get tired of fucking her. I start thinking of other ladies who I can barfine when I finish with this lady. They may not be as sexy, but they are different.
Next week, I am going with a MILF for 4 nights. She is a super fuck, I will see if she is good for four nights.
Anyone know why there is such a big fireworks display happening right now as I type this? These are even bigger than the ones at the recent international fireworks competition.
[QUOTE=Gonova;2779064]Update: So after a 30 HR trip, I finally made it Pattaya. Landed in BKK at midnight. Got a taxi from the kiosk. Driver had a custom racing Momo wheel and drove like he needed it. Paid 1900 thb for the taxi probably over paid, but I just wanted to die in my bed.[/QUOTE]
1000-1300 is normal but I understand paying extra and not caring when you're dead tired. Personally if I were arriving that late I would have spent the first night in BKK and at least arrive when things are open or much more near to a hotel to sleep. I'm guessing you didn't make it in to Pattaya until 2:30 or 3:00 am?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2779290]1000-1300 is normal but I understand paying extra and not caring when you're dead tired.[/QUOTE]Shit, how? Takes 2 minutes to walk upstairs and get one for 1000. I will never be tired enough to spend 900 baht in order to save 2 minutes.
And truth be told it was actually quicker to go upstairs instead of that counter. Because by the time you stop at the counter and they ask you all kinds of questions and get a driver and you have to walk outside to the parking lot where the car is, he has to pay to leave the lot, you would literally already be on the highway to Pattaya.
[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2775567]You don't get it werqweq.
I fuck often and wherever I want, when I want.
There is always a lady available at a price.
But hollow unengaged fucks are just sticks in holes.
They're just relief.
I truly love and enjoy the feeling of giving chase.
Of valuing someone above the money, and reaping the rewards of that.
Unless you live here you will likely never understand that.[/QUOTE]
Dude, I lived in Thailand for many years and my hobby, when still young and handsome, was to pick up bargirls for free at the local after hours places. Some of them being so embarrassed about going with me that they needed to sneak out of the club separate from me because "I don't want my friend see I go with you for free". Some of them became friends and I heard many funny stories.
Will I ever understand the "love and enjoyment of giving chase" to manage to pay some ho money to have sex with me? No, you are probably right, I will likely never understand that.
[QUOTE=Buddyb;2779163]Hello all,
I'll be in Thailand for 16 nights, going to Bangkok, chiang mai, and Pattaya. Which of these two islands do you prefer for 2 or 3 nights? Was planning on going to Koh Chang but now reconsidering?
Appreciate any insight..[/QUOTE]For 2-3 nights I would choose Koh Samet. Going to Koh Chang you would loose almost 2 days on the road just going there and back if you take the mini bus service.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2779203]Not only tourist areas I think. If you read the news stories about Thai people's road rage and stupid fights about minor issues leading to even stabbing or shooting, it is fairly common also among Thais also.
My theory about this has been that for whatever reason, the personality development from child to adult thru adolescence for some reason has jammed to earlier stages (child or adolescent) for larger percentage of population than in the west, and as a result you have a child or teenager mind in an adult body. Maybe someone in psychiatric field could comment further about reasons and statistics; I am pretty sure someone has done some scientific research on this though the topic is sensitive as it would immediately be judged racist.
This is the very reason that I avoid any argumentation with Thais even in situations that they are totally wrong or at fault. They will never admit, and if bad luck when got one those with adolescent psyche. Odds are too low for you to win (you simply can not win with rational reasoning). Best just get out and move ahead, even with minor financial loss. Also applies to hookers not delivering as promised.[/QUOTE]Correct as I noted, it isn't just the tourist area that you see sensationalized by their media to cover up their own shortcomings! Much of the stuff I read here as to why something didn't work out the way it suppose to falls within the title of " This is Thailand " as I noted many of the things we take for granted don't really exist here because it just isn't taught. Think for a moment about who is going to do the teaching.
I'm talking in general about Thai who are the majority poor! Every education expert outside and inside of Thailand who isn't afraid to speak has indicated no matter what the changes by Thai officials unless critical thinking is added into the system not much is ever going to change. For example, I read she speaks English sure if she does it is more comfortable for us but the majority dig a bit deeper they can't read nor understand the different meanings of a word they only know what they hear regularly outside, and if they don't understand they aren't going to tell you, telling you I don't understand in the Thai culture if you need to ask again you are stupid. The reason in government schools students don't raise their hand's schools are just babysitting services for the poor.
Now before anyone gets all bent out of shape I'm talking in general and I know been told Pattaya and Bangkok isn't good indication of what the rest of Thailand is.
You talk about driving I will touch a bit on that, Thailand is the 2nd worse in the world year in and year out no matter how much smoke they blow up anyone's ass. It is a simple fix but who is going to do the teaching or the revision needed they all come from the same school of driving. The car was invented in the West the rules and tests were all taken from the West but through decades they have to turn it upside down to the point it is what it is today. Even the police same system instead of applying the law they apply this in Thailand, if you are a farang or have money then you should pay.
Real Thais who have gone to a truly International school or abroad to my surprise feel exactly the way I do! A few I know back home who had the fortitude of sticking it out working massage parlor tell me I hate going home I'm an ATM. If anyone knows the full extent of the cost to go to a real International School in Thailand will know if a girl tells them I'm going to college and working P4 P sure it happens but it is nearly impossible, once a week, etc that is laughable. For a simple test ask her what is 6 x9 if she can tell you without a calculation then I'm wrong but not 100% I dig deeper I will get an answer.
I talk to my Thai son since the day I felt he could understand that what I provide for you isn't just money the most important thing you get from me money can't buy! I use the common phrase " I have a see. The. With everyone in Thai. As I have predicted all your childhood friends' futures because of their culture which one will drop out, which one will die and which one will sit home jerk off, and wait for a free bottle of whiskey? Which of his friends will get an underage girl pregnant and when they will just pick up and leave.
How do I know maybe through my internal bitching and not being religious I'm being punished because I have living proof each day I see and experience my "daughter-in-law" she and her family is a pure example of Thai people especially the poor, the minimum standards I learn from the West when it comes to education, manners, critical thinking, common sense, hygiene all come up short.
I have a million stories, Thais as you noted all their leaders know it, the mental definition is out there but due to the loss of face particularly with foreigners it is best just to smile and walk away. There was a time year back I couldn't accept it because of it I was involved in a bunch of confrontations even one that nearly cost me my life. For my family's sake, I realized to live here I had to change. There was a time I felt " the only good Thai was a dead Thai " I came so close to ending a Thai life but when I saw the expression on my son's face I stopped for him.
Thais, the majority aren't educated their parents know how to have kids that is to carry on their legacy but have nothing really to teach them since they themselves have never been taught. Many expats bash Thais say they are stupid, I don't use that word to say a person is stupid to me means you were taught and warned but you continue to do it anyways.
Much of what you have said about their mental state is true but it isn't spoken I joke with my son sure you got a dick that can make a baby that doesn't make you a man, it goes much deeper. In the West, studies have shown for males late '20's is when your brain is nearly 100% developed don't expect that here even with the police majority are mentally midget but don't know it because who is going to tell them? The leaders like it this way it is part of their plan so they can continue to control, it is like " keep them barefoot and pregnant " if they ever got a real education that is when the leaders are really concerned mean while prices will go up and down economy will get better things will cost more but as long as what I noted above the flow of young girls will continue and continue beyond my days.
Meantime, just smile that is the reason for the saying " land of smile " smile and just walk away make a joke have humor that is the key in my book. Thanks for listening to my rant.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2779291]Shit, how? Takes 2 minutes to walk upstairs and get one for 1000. I will never be tired enough to spend 900 baht in order to save 2 minutes.[/QUOTE]I was trying to be diplomatic! We all know to pre-book taxis in Thailand before arriving. Having said that it all depends on circumstances. I did consider paying 3x more for one of those airport taxi services once. why? I literally had to wait over 1 hour outside SGN a couple months ago after 3 large planes landed simultaneously and a computer system meltdown for well over an hour led to absolute chaos outside. No ride share cars for over an hour as it was late and no one being dropped off for outbound flights. I actually managed to get a cab and opened the door then got challenged by some old fogey 60 year Viet man in some drunken monkey kung fu stance saying this was his taxi. Dude was half my size but since this was his country and not mine I didn't want to drop him.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2779442]
Meantime, just smile that is the reason for the saying " land of smile " smile and just walk away make a joke have humor that is the key in my book. Thanks for listening to my rant.[/QUOTE]Getting off topic, but can't resist commenting.
Seems we are about 100% on same page re Thai society. Thailand, like Russia, is fairly close to an orwellian feudal society that at a distance looks chaotic and badly managed, but once you think about it, is actually the exact opposite if seen from the perspective of those in power (even if frogs come out of their mouths all the time). Thai society at large, especially so the education system, is managed exactly as it is supposed to be in such system.
The worst that could happen to the feudal powers is that masses would get educated and would be able to come up with their own ideas. See what happened in Europe in past 250 years, has not happened in those two places. Catastrophic for those in power before. Would be catastrophic to mongers too in long run. Thai and Russia are still largely like europe 100-200 years ago. And just list the countries where the change has happened voluntarily. Requires revolution, major war or some other comparable event to happen, and the powers of course know it and take proper actions to manage the system. Coups in Thailand are actually for that reason, preventing the seeds of change spreading too much.
Funny coincidence about your passed feelings about a good Thai from a totally different context. When I was a child, my grandfather who was fighting for independence of his country in wars against Russian occupation, repeatedly told me and my brother that "there is only one type of good russian - a dead one. And I have made many good russians". Unlike you, his feelings never changed.
Firstly, I would like to apologize in advance if this already been covered. I did lurk around for some time, yet I couldn't find any good information. With google I was able to find some information which was outdated.
I find the information from Google outdated because from what I have understood by going through this forum, things have changed and are changing day by day in Thailand, especially Pattaya. Most of the reports were made before the pandemic.
I believe when Bangkok was reopened and the action slowly picked up, Pattaya was still struggling. I was in Bangkok a couple of months backs. Though the crowd was pretty strong, the quality of the selection went down with many girls yet to return to the city. So, I think if I had been to Pattaya I would have struggled to find any action.
I would love to know from those who are already there about the situation on the ground. Have the girls returned to action? I follow some clubs from Pattaya on Twitter and many of them still seem to continue to beg for money via PayPal to support them.
I have been to Pattaya only once, and I was in a pretty fucked up state. For two days, I only walked around after I was struggling to get back to health following three days of binging alcohol. So my memory of my short stay is not reliable.
What I would like to know more than anything is if Pattaya is better than Bangkok for mongering. Bar girls in Bangkok are not that attractive, to find some attractive girls, you got to either book an escort or find them in some massage parlours or gogo clubs where things are not that straight forward. I don't like to haggle and waste my time bargaining, so I always end up booking an escort instead of putting up with them.
I have read that the bar / gogo girls in Pattaya look prettier or better than the ones in Bangkok, but I would like to know if the selection has returned to the level it used to be post pandemic. How easy they are to negotiate compared to the ones in Bangkok?
Come back after 2 days off and I see a lot of Thai bashing.
I agree. Thailand other than Rice and Bargirls is just way overly not a good country.
Again real Thailand is party 24,7. Encompass all, example, man drunk in his hammock in nakhon nowhere at 2 pm is partying.
It's everywhere.
All you need to know about a country is to know who controls the wealth.
4, 5 or 6 Thai families control 50%. Numbers could be way off but not the Principle.
Poor don't matter. Not that they matter anywhere but at least in the West the poor can hit it Big.
Too many focus on Taxi fare to Pattaya. It's a one shot deal.
To save money you need to walk in to your hotel. It really is much cheaper without Expedia 15-20 % cut.
At least on the moderation priced ones.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2779456]Getting off topic, but can't resist commenting.
Seems we are about 100% on same page re Thai society. Thailand, like Russia, is fairly close to an orwellian feudal society that at a distance looks chaotic and badly managed, but once you think about it, is actually the exact opposite if seen from the perspective of those in power (even if frogs come out of their mouths all the time). Thai society at large, especially so the education system, is managed exactly as it is supposed to be in such system.
The worst that could happen to the feudal powers is that masses would get educated and would be able to come up with their own ideas. See what happened in Europe in past 250 years, has not happened in those two places. Catastrophic for those in power before. Would be catastrophic to mongers too in long run. Thai and Russia are still largely like europe 100-200 years ago. And just list the countries where the change has happened voluntarily. Requires revolution, major war or some other comparable event to happen, and the powers of course know it and take proper actions to manage the system. Coups in Thailand are actually for that reason, preventing the seeds of change spreading too much.
Funny coincidence about your passed feelings about a good Thai from a totally different context. When I was a child, my grandfather who was fighting for independence of his country in wars against Russian occupation, repeatedly told me and my brother that "there is only one type of good russian - a dead one. And I have made many good russians". Unlike you, his feelings never changed.[/QUOTE]I told this to others who I have met here. I don't like to travel how I settle here is a long story I can't tell you or even comment on outside of two places Thailand and China, I am Chinese American born and raised some say I should be used to this type of thinking but also told by others I'm more American than Americans who are white. I like all of you came here thinking the most basic stuff should be standard but it wasn't I kept to myself I thought about it down deep there is someone wrong as one great poster once told me he was being kind Oldthaihand being kind " backward " I can't speak of anywhere else except this place stories I've when told to close friends and family would say never heard of shit like this and if they didn't know me would say I was be. S them.
There was a time I did stuff I went off the reservation it was the wild west that brought me back to life I try hard to not go back. I got to a point where I was planning something really bad the end result if it didn't go well I wasn't going quietly I was going to take a whole lot with me to the grave and had the resources I had accepted I was going to die violently. There was a period I got into confrontations daily and nightly every little thing bother me. Then one day it click I got it! Realized that many of the things Thais were doing like driving they didn't do it intentionally it was how they were taught along with their culture.
I was riding my motorbike down Pattaya Klang one evening cruising 40 KM, with a vehicle in front of me, I had nowhere to go or turn, I felt something I looked in my mirror this vehicle was within inches of my bumper, I turn my head and shook it when we came to the stop light he pulled up to my right roll down the window and started. Somehow he realized now I wasn't Thai from there he got verbally aggressive and responded flip him the bird as the light turn green bikes behind and sounded their horns I make a left (motorbike shop) I looked into my mirror and see the guy backing up and speeds to catch up. This is a very narrow area and congested I could have outran him easily but to avoid anything from happening I pulled over at the Family Mart, The guy jump out not big running and jumping like a monkey with my helmet on I just stood there at some point I knew he was going to attack and second later as he was ranting and raving he tries to throw a punch before he even knew what hit him he was on the floor looking up. Prior to that jumping and ranting he was saying in Thai what is the big deal how close I come to you AS LONG AS I DON'T HIT YOU THERE ISN'T A PROBLEM!
What set him off loss of face being criticized by a foreigner this all came across me that night these guys don't have a clue so you can fight and yell back they don't have a clue what you are saying and why in this case the danger. This all hit me one night while I BF my regular from Bacarra doing her at the short time place Oasis. LOL. Thereafter my senses were right I ride along blocking cars and bikes going along at my own speed knowing exactly what I'm doing as long as I don't look back it is all innocent acting as if you don't know is the key. Today I use my age as an excuse for Thais to be patient and polite to me. LOL that is how I'm surviving in Hell.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2779485]What set him off loss of face being criticized by a foreigner this all came across me that night these guys don't have a clue so you can fight and yell back they don't have a clue what you are saying and why in this case the danger. This all hit me one night while I BF my regular from Bacarra doing her at the short time place Oasis. LOL. Thereafter my senses were right I ride along blocking cars and bikes going along at my own speed knowing exactly what I'm doing as long as I don't look back it is all innocent acting as if you don't know is the key. Today I use my age as an excuse for Thais to be patient and polite to me. LOL that is how I'm surviving in Hell.[/QUOTE]Thanks LittleBigMan and Knobrm for sharing your thoughts.
If I find myself in a similar situation, I think this imformation will help me to remain calm and avoid challenging and confronting people, when I take my first trip to Thailand.
Gonz0.
[QUOTE=Xiggo;2778296]Going to thailand on 15 Januari. I am from Belgium.
Anyone there from netherlands or Belgium?[/QUOTE]There is a very nice guy from Netherlands in Chiang Mai, Mr. Jacques Verne. He has a youtube channel called Chiang Mai Thai video vlog.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2779291]Shit, how? Takes 2 minutes to walk upstairs and get one for 1000. I will never be tired enough to spend 900 baht in order to save 2 minutes.
And truth be told it was actually quicker to go upstairs instead of that counter. Because by the time you stop at the counter and they ask you all kinds of questions and get a driver and you have to walk outside to the parking lot where the car is, he has to pay to leave the lot, you would literally already be on the highway to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]That's fair and understandable. Had no clue that existed and after a 30 HR hour journey, I was not about to hunt around for a better deal.
Only updates are. Coconut bar is pretty packed as of last night. Options are pretty close to their street date sadly. I saw a few gems, but I was already running on empty.
Second girl, solid 7-8. Great lay BBFS civ for 2500. Multiple dead bars on Walking street. Need to make my way down a soi and actually try the bar thing. Been just trying to learn things, this is my first trip anywhere. Esp solo.
[QUOTE=Gonz0;2779535]Thanks LittleBigMan and Knobrm for sharing your thoughts.
If I find myself in a similar situation, I think this imformation will help me to remain calm and avoid challenging and confronting people, when I take my first trip to Thailand.
Gonz0.[/QUOTE]I'm not saying lay down and be a doormat or be someone's punching bag. There is a time and place for everything you get drunk and put yourself in a situation for something to happen it will happen.
Getting upset over spilled milk I know guys who have gotten upset over their order being taken wrong and made a scene. A while back not every Thai guy in this situation showed enormous restraint with a meat cutter in his hand. Big see Extra, in the meat department a German guy big dude but older all of a sudden started yelling at the guy said his meal was cut wrong, and went on and on, the Thai dude wasn't small equally large and younger he stood there and took the humiliation lost of face, he just walk away.
Homepro a week later, 6'3 European guy early '50's checking out a few small items I was next to him and started to tell the girl I need a bag, the girl said no bags, he goes on pissed, he had the small bills to pay but being pissed he pulls out a Thousand baht the item was like 80 baht, tosses it on the table it falls to the floor, he looks at me I look at him smiling shaking my head indicating you don't pick it up it is mined he picks it up gets his change storms off pissed. She check out my two items screws and I told her I want a bag seriously she bust out laughing.
After all these years have I got it down? Never will but not going to stress me over the small stuff my fat ass dirty daughter in-law test me every day, today I'm like that referee in the SuperBowl commercial a few years ago back where the coach is yelling the shit out of him but he shows nothing flip to another picture he is shown sitting on the couch with his wife bitching the hell out of him. LOL key is enjoy and that is a real challenge here at times.
See a bunch of nice slim looking white girls smoking just outside on Soi 13/1 all of the time. Not sure if they are Russians or what? Anybody have low down on this place to see if P4P is available? Been with 2 Europeans since here (almost 2 months now). 2000 each time but nothing to write home about. Rush services and mechanical.
Bargirls trying to borrow money are so common that other bargirls are posting complaints on social media.
Yes, they don't just hit up customers, they borrow from other bargirls, especially when they are leaving town. I normally just ignore them.
Bargirls need cash when they are returning to Isaan, so they can hand it to their Significant Other when they see them.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2779567]See a bunch of nice slim looking white girls smoking just outside on Soi 13/1 all of the time. Not sure if they are Russians or what? Anybody have low down on this place to see if P4P is available? Been with 2 Europeans since here (almost 2 months now). 2000 each time but nothing to write home about. Rush services and mechanical.[/QUOTE]Good spot. I will have to swing by. I have no clue where to find Russian / Euro girls here except the Russian Gogo. Not even sure if they off barfines the same way other bars do.
Anyone have suggestions where to look?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2779568]Bargirls trying to borrow money are so common that other bargirls are posting complaints on social media.
Yes, they don't just hit up customers, they borrow from other bargirls, especially when they are leaving town. I normally just ignore them.
Bargirls need cash when they are returning to Isaan, so they can hand it to their Significant Other when they see them.[/QUOTE]Would not surprise me at all. If you are a regular at any establishment you will see most girls are Not making bank.
Not EZ being a girl of the bar, or any establishment, including online.
Folks returning to Pattaya after 3 years. Some questions.
1) Is Rasputin still open?
2) Is Honey 2 still open and the best soapy around?
3) How is castle Pattaya in experience? If I pay 1 K Baht as a non member plus another 1 K on drinks then for 3-4 K can I get a chic to raise on stirrups in nude and be my slave? (whips and wax play?
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2779567]See a bunch of nice slim looking white girls smoking just outside on Soi 13/1 all of the time. Not sure if they are Russians or what? Anybody have low down on this place to see if P4P is available? Been with 2 Europeans since here (almost 2 months now). 2000 each time but nothing to write home about. Rush services and mechanical.[/QUOTE]HOPS is a legit restaurant. The food is top notch. Try the ribs. Delicious!
I leave Brazil for Pattaya next week. I am going to give at least 24 hours recovery time from the very long flight.
Ladies are already pinging me for "dates" next week, but I want to avoid a situation like last month where I overbooked myself, and ended up with too many fucks in a row.
When you live in Pattaya, you know so many ladies that you don't have to go to bars to meet ladies. Unless you are tired of the ones you know.
A bargirl I know decided to stop working in Pattaya bars and is now working in a Thai bar. Tonight, someone called her Thai boyfriend and alerted him that the bargirl was up to no good. Drama ensued.
Thai boyfriends can usually handle their girlfriends going with Farang customers, but not so much Thai customers.
Also, Thai bars are different, because the customers are locals and come regularly. Which means that they start viewing the ladies as girlfriends, or set them up as mia nois.
This is not to say that Farangs are unwelcome, but few of the ladies speak English.
[QUOTE=LightMan1988;2779725]Folks returning to Pattaya after 3 years. Some questions.
1) Is Rasputin still open?[/QUOTE]Gone.
[QUOTE=LightMan1988;2779725]
2) Is Honey 2 still open?[/QUOTE]Yes, is open.
[QUOTE=LightMan1988;2779725]
3) How is castle Pattaya in experience? If I pay 1 K Baht as a non member plus another 1 K on drinks then for 3-4 K can I get a chic to raise on stirrups in nude and be my slave? (whips and wax play?[/QUOTE]If you looking for a slave, The Castle is a waste of money IME.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2779203]Not only tourist areas I think. If you read the news stories about Thai people's road rage and stupid fights about minor issues leading to even stabbing or shooting, it is fairly common also among Thais also.
My theory about this has been that for whatever reason, the personality development from child to adult thru adolescence for some reason has jammed to earlier stages (child or adolescent) for larger percentage of population than in the west, and as a result you have a child or teenager mind in an adult body. Maybe someone in psychiatric field could comment further about reasons and statistics; I am pretty sure someone has done some scientific research on this though the topic is sensitive as it would immediately be judged racist.
This is the very reason that I avoid any argumentation with Thais even in situations that they are totally wrong or at fault. They will never admit, and if bad luck when got one those with adolescent psyche. Odds are too low for you to win (you simply can not win with rational reasoning). Best just get out and move ahead, even with minor financial loss. Also applies to hookers not delivering as promised.[/QUOTE]It's like arguing with religious people. Just walk away. No matter how much you explain evolution to these people they just won't accept it.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2779835]I leave Brazil for Pattaya next week. I am going to give at least 24 hours recovery time from the very long flight.
Ladies are already pinging me for "dates" next week, but I want to avoid a situation like last month where I overbooked myself, and ended up with too many fucks in a row.
When you live in Pattaya, you know so many ladies that you don't have to go to bars to meet ladies. Unless you are tired of the ones you know.[/QUOTE]The girls pinging you are the contacts you already made?
Or are they from some website / dating apps?
I had been considering to visit Brazil for mongering, so I am kinda surprised you are coming to Thailand from Brazil. Wow.
Learning new things.
Observations on 3 weeks with a bargirl:
She drinks a lot. Every night.
Since we are not in Thailand, she has no alternative but me for sex, so if she isn't too drunk, she will drag me into the bedroom. Whereas, if she is in Pattaya, she gets laid a lot, and I have to drag her into the bedroom.
She calls her Thai husband a lot to give him orders, since he is taking care of the kids. Apparently, he isn't very good at following orders, so there is a lot of fighting over the phone.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2779972]Gone.
Yes, is open.
If you looking for a slave, The Castle is a waste of money IME.[/QUOTE]What is The Castle? I'm in Pattaya now and getting a bit bored of the TF fucks. Sounds like a place for experiences?
Hello guys,
I will be in Pattaya for a week around the 20th of January.
I already drive many times in Thailand like chiang khan, ayuthaya and chiang mai, I do have motorcycle license but not an international one.
So I know that it's "risky" but I was wondering if for you, you think it's ok to drive in Pattaya? I would like to move a bit more independently, is there many police barrage to stop you and verify?
Will I have to pay 1000 thb penalties every time I get caught? I really don't know how is it right now but from what I hear, they do more checks than old times:
Thanks for your help.
Cheers guys, feel free to PM if you want to grab a beer.
[QUOTE=Zam007;2780050]The girls pinging you are the contacts you already made?
Or are they from some website / dating apps?
I had been considering to visit Brazil for mongering, so I am kinda surprised you are coming to Thailand from Brazil. Wow.
Learning new things.[/QUOTE]I know a lot of ladies in Pattaya, and so they ping me for visits to my condo. I give them 2000 baht for a few hours of drinking and sex. It's a good deal for them.
As for Brazil, I brought a Thai lady with me for this trip. Otherwise, Brazil is a great place for finding ladies.
[QUOTE=Zboub;2780152]Hello guys,
I will be in Pattaya for a week around the 20th of January.
I already drive many times in Thailand like chiang khan, ayuthaya and chiang mai, I do have motorcycle license but not an international one.
So I know that it's "risky" but I was wondering if for you, you think it's ok to drive in Pattaya? I would like to move a bit more independently, is there many police barrage to stop you and verify?
Will I have to pay 1000 thb penalties every time I get caught? I really don't know how is it right now but from what I hear, they do more checks than old times:
Thanks for your help.
Cheers guys, feel free to PM if you want to grab a beer.[/QUOTE]I see alot of impromptu checkpoints set up to catch Farangs like you. No idea of the fines, though.
[QUOTE=Zboub;2780152]Hello guys,
I will be in Pattaya for a week around the 20th of January.
I already drive many times in Thailand like chiang khan, ayuthaya and chiang mai, I do have motorcycle license but not an international one.
So I know that it's "risky" but I was wondering if for you, you think it's ok to drive in Pattaya? I would like to move a bit more independently, is there many police barrage to stop you and verify?
Will I have to pay 1000 thb penalties every time I get caught? I really don't know how is it right now but from what I hear, they do more checks than old times:
Thanks for your help.
Cheers guys, feel free to PM if you want to grab a beer.[/QUOTE]Renting a bike (small one, up to 400 max) is the way to go in Pattaya especially if you're an experienced driver.
I've been driving there each time since my second trip in the year 2000 and never had a problem.
Last time I was there in November 2022, I've not been checked at all and I thought that checkpoints were less frequent that precovid, but I saw during my last day, at the moment I went to the bus station on North Pattaya, (I was not on my bike) the cop at the North Pattaya roundabout station was stopping every foreigner driving through that place.
Just learn to avoid their check points (mostly North Pattaya roundabout, sometimes the police check point at the crossover of second road with Pattaya Klang, the police station on Beach road), avoid doing anything illegal (avoid driving after drinking alcohol), drive slowly, be carefull about the road and all other drivers and you should be fine.
Last time I was fined was in 2019 (precovid), for two infractions (no international driving licence plus a Uturn at a place that was forbidden). Luckily I was told that I have 1 week to go and pay at the police station on Beach road (normally they take your document, ask you to go pay immediately at the police station, come back with the proof and then you can go), price was just 600 baht for the 2 infractions, but if you have 1 infraction you'll be asked to pay 500 normally as I've been asked in the past.
[QUOTE=Zboub;2780152]Hello guys,
I will be in Pattaya for a week around the 20th of January.
I already drive many times in Thailand like chiang khan, ayuthaya and chiang mai, I do have motorcycle license but not an international one.
So I know that it's "risky" but I was wondering if for you, you think it's ok to drive in Pattaya? I would like to move a bit more independently, is there many police barrage to stop you and verify?
Will I have to pay 1000 thb penalties every time I get caught? I really don't know how is it right now but from what I hear, they do more checks than old times:
Thanks for your help.
Cheers guys, feel free to PM if you want to grab a beer.[/QUOTE]My friend told me they're more lenient in pattaya, not as strict as in Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2780112]Observations on 3 weeks with a bargirl:
She drinks a lot. Every night.
Since we are not in Thailand, she has no alternative but me for sex, so if she isn't too drunk, she will drag me into the bedroom. Whereas, if she is in Pattaya, she gets laid a lot, and I have to drag her into the bedroom.
She calls her Thai husband a lot to give him orders, since he is taking care of the kids. Apparently, he isn't very good at following orders, so there is a lot of fighting over the phone.[/QUOTE]I'm sure you had a good reason, but it's hard to figure your motive. Isn't that a bit like taking a ham sandwich to a banquet? No judgement and no shade. Just curious.
[QUOTE=Zboub;2780152]Hello guys,
I will be in Pattaya for a week around the 20th of January.
I already drive many times in Thailand like chiang khan, ayuthaya and chiang mai, I do have motorcycle license but not an international one.
So I know that it's "risky" but I was wondering if for you, you think it's ok to drive in Pattaya? I would like to move a bit more independently, is there many police barrage to stop you and verify?
Will I have to pay 1000 thb penalties every time I get caught? I really don't know how is it right now but from what I hear, they do more checks than old times:
Thanks for your help.
Cheers guys, feel free to PM if you want to grab a beer.[/QUOTE]Driving? Are you referring to a car or motorbike? I forgot where I saw it but you can get an International Permit for the motorbike if you have a motorbike class license back home.
Personally, there aren't enough checkpoints to really bother in my opinion. Since Covid, there have been fewer and fewer, two major times of the year they do more checks March, and October, this is the time they need to start getting money available for school tuition. Then you got the holidays which is done.
In-town checks. Majority of the time they will set up if on Beach Road just before or after the police station near Central Festival, on 3rd Road, they will do it near the fire station or near Pattaya Klang, on 2nd Road usually near Mikes Shopping but due to construction I've not seen any for some time. Once in a while, it happens outside the Friendship market of Pattaya Tai.
The key is defensive driving in which I'm always looking ahead a minimum of 7 seconds that is how I was trained commercially and apply it to my daily driving here. I'm never worried about being stopped when it happens I kind of welcome it so entertaining. Doing so if you see a checkpoint it should give you enough time to stop and reverse or take a detour that is what the majority of Thais do.
Looking ahead, especially at an intersection with a signal light while stopped if you see a checkpoint on the other side when the signal changes wait a bit and let those in a hurry go first, when you do proceed right to avoid being pulled over.
The chances is slim and none in my opinion.
[QUOTE=David2;2780278]I'm sure you had a good reason, but it's hard to figure your motive. Isn't that a bit like taking a ham sandwich to a banquet? No judgement and no shade. Just curious.[/QUOTE]Actually, the Thai lady has a better figure than 99% of the garotas in Copacabana.
If I needed a quickie with a Brazilian lady, no problem, but I haven't wanted to.
I am paying her about $30 a day. I suspect that the garotas are charging more than that.
Girl who quoted me 3000 upstairs short time plus 400 for room at a Nightwish bar 3 weeks ago. Yesterday dropped her price to 1500 including anal action. I took the deal! Amazing something smaller than 42 kg can take that much dick in that small of a hole. And I was hardly gentle. Palace and Baccara is full with Chinese again. Pin Up and Fahrenheit are seeing less customers. Something is going on and tide may be changing.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2779972]Gone.
Yes, is open.
If you looking for a slave, The Castle is a waste of money IME.[/QUOTE]Hi thank you. So I haven't tied and molested a girl. It's a fantasy. What is the other option in pattaya?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2780305]Personally, there aren't enough checkpoints to really bother in my opinion. Since Covid, there have been fewer and fewer, two major times of the year they do more checks March, and October, this is the time they need to start getting money available for school tuition. Then you got the holidays which is done.[/QUOTE]Interesting comment on March. I've seen very few checkpoints, except for March 2022 when I saw several in Patong and one in Krabi.
[QUOTE=Gonova;2780138]What is The Castle? I'm in Pattaya now and getting a bit bored of the TF fucks. Sounds like a place for experiences?[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.the-castle-pattaya.com/thai-mistress.html[/URL]
If you looking for slave girl is a waste of money IME.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2780406]Interesting comment on March. I've seen very few checkpoints, except for March 2022 when I saw several in Patong and one in Krabi.[/QUOTE]I can't speak for Bangkok, but in the Pattaya Area particularly the Darkside. School terms generally end around Feb / March same October / November I noticed this for sometime even prior to this event. It was New Year's Day my renter next door cop contracted out just got home while everyone was sleeping in late and the restaurant was closed so I had set aside to power wash the cooking area. He was up all night and wanted to use my outdoor patio to do some drinking with his buddies they had been up all night at specific checkpoints sucking ex-pat dry. I ask him how many they stop they kind of laughed basically said in Thai it was a profitable night.
When I finished being polite I sat down and had a drink by then most of them had been hitting it pretty hard. One who came later in full dress uniform gun the whole works I saw before once introduced I told him how I recognized him, his daughter went to the school as my son so for years I saw him drop and pick her up. The conversation here and there many confirmed another suspicion I had why around March they always get into education mode with signs about 100% helmet etc. I'm sure you have seen those programs well it just happens W. H. O. That is around the time they make their millions donation to Thailand to help with the problem which we all know hasn't helped!
Unlike Bangkok, the Pattaya area is very small, many of the checkpoints in town as noted the one on Dophin Circle done just before the Dusit is pretty much the border to the station on Soi 9, go head down Naklua towards the fish market now the Banglamung station on Sukhumvit is in control, if you are anywhere near Hwy 7, underneath the overpass that is where they normally set up once the otherside of the rail tracks now Nongprue Station is control basically this is the Darkside check point done a lot on Soi Siam across from the Shell station.
Everyone has their territory and money collected stays?
I return to Pattaya later this week. After a day or so of rest, I will deal with the backlog of ladies who are wanting to come to my condo. First up is the twin sister of the lady I am traveling with now (unless I am feeling well enough to get in a quickie or two).
Then, I am taking a lady to Koh Samui and Phuket for 4 nights. Her story is that her Thai boyfriend won't let her work bar, so she wants to leave him, using the 4 nights to give him time to stop looking for her in Pattaya (she is telling him that she is going home to Isaan).
50/50 that she goes back with him after the 4 nights (he's 10 years younger than her). I don't care.
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[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2780323]Girl who quoted me 3000 upstairs short time plus 400 for room at a Nightwish bar 3 weeks ago. Yesterday dropped her price to 1500 including anal action. I took the deal! Amazing something smaller than 42 kg can take that much dick in that small of a hole. And I was hardly gentle. Palace and Baccara is full with Chinese again. Pin Up and Fahrenheit are seeing less customers. Something is going on and tide may be changing.[/QUOTE]Not sure if it is related although Baccara is under new ownership I know two of the mamasan to be the same. The girls I've spoken to that I've known for years when they were in their 20's now 30's have returned. Kind of sad to see them return since a few left the business even before Covid hoping as to why they left they would put that part of their life behind. But in conversation compare to other venues the mamasans at Bacarra are like family to them. Mamasan Dao prior to Covid has traveled a bit she help open and recruited the ladies at High Roller, the former male manager Lek also help start left sometime also and now is with Peppermint, I last saw mamasan Dao in Sept, in happen to be her last night at HR, moving to Palace, a month later got a call to come out to the grand opening of Iron, now mamasan Dao was working there. Not sure where I heard she is headed to What's Up when downstairs is opening if not already.
When it comes to Bacarra the girls although have forgotten there was covid requesting prices are still not as aggressive as Pin up or Palace, 1300-1500 for BF, drinks 170-200, one I know who I've known pre-covid, 2500ST, during 1500, H. Are. 2000, last time I saw her when she went back to Bacarra was still 2000 but haven't seen her since Christmas which I didn't BF to her disappointment I don't pay double BF A few who still remember in conversation quoted me 3000-5000 baht as if nothing has changed. I joked I want you a long time that will have to be 24 hours she joked back it is only until 6 am, short memories?
Just my luck talking about Bacarra, one of the show girls who I've know for sometime still keep in touch since she went back to her farm just before the big covid outbreak, at one time she was my cousin regular we still keep in touch FB, just last week she message said LOL she back in Pattaya, I thought she was gone for good, said working at a bar on a particular soi, I had a clue she forwarded the picture so I made a visit early afternoon. Usually not my type of place but after a bunch of drinks and talk as to why here it was because of her close ties to her cousin and niece who both also work at the place. Money for sure not as good but it was more about the hours that will change for sure ( back to Gogo soon ) so meantime although not my thing since BF was cheap ( reason ) and she actually said 1000 baht standard here I pulled the trigger off to the corner she pulls the curtains tie them up threw the cushion down on the floor and the way we went. Although her face was the same once I got a better look I noticed the second baby fat.
I can see prices starting to rise at Bacarra, for me still the best places to sit, drink, be. S. Many of the Chinese I see are much better off there just like before Covid, my assumption is they are the younger generation from Hong Kong, who speak Mandarin but still got their parents Cantonese in them. I see many of them down at Immigration trying to get extensions.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2780486]I return to Pattaya later this week. After a day or so of rest, I will deal with the backlog of ladies who are wanting to come to my condo. First up is the twin sister of the lady I am traveling with now (unless I am feeling well enough to get in a quickie or two).
Then, I am taking a lady to Koh Samui and Phuket for 4 nights. Her story is that her Thai boyfriend won't let her work bar, so she wants to leave him, using the 4 nights to give him time to stop looking for her in Pattaya (she is telling him that she is going home to Isaan).
50/50 that she goes back with him after the 4 nights (he's 10 years younger than her). I don't care.[/QUOTE]Funny, got me to write about your remarks timing. About two weeks ago I was at my regular routine of sweeping up outside and around my apartments, this is my way of keeping track of what tenants are doing more in the past than them skipping out on the rent. Young guy, I would say late 30's not sure what he does for money been around for years. He comes out and requests can I put a latch on his back door so he can close it shut basically with a hand gesture so no one can see him fucking. There have been times I see a lady pull up in her car on the Soi and walk into his place while sweeping I hear sounds LOL.
Sunday, the morning I'm sitting watching the NFL first round all of a sudden yelling and banging, I rush over to my retaining wall look over, and see 3 Thais guys opening a can of whip ass on the guy. The neighbor next to him suppose to be a cop just stands and watches so does everyone else in the neighborhood. When the talk and the girl screaming at one guy that had to be the husband or BF, I could see the woman although older than my renter had a pretty nice body. From hearing from some of the neighbors and other renters he is going to be laid up for a long time.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2780463]I can't speak for Bangkok, but in the Pattaya Area particularly the Darkside. School terms generally end around Feb / March same October / November I noticed this for sometime even prior to this event. It was New Year's Day my renter next door cop contracted out just got home while everyone was sleeping in late and the restaurant was closed so I had set aside to power wash the cooking area. He was up all night and wanted to use my outdoor patio to do some drinking with his buddies they had been up all night at specific checkpoints sucking ex-pat dry. I ask him how many they stop they kind of laughed basically said in Thai it was a profitable night.
When I finished being polite I sat down and had a drink by then most of them had been hitting it pretty hard. One who came later in full dress uniform gun the whole works I saw before once introduced I told him how I recognized him, his daughter went to the school as my son so for years I saw him drop and pick her up. The conversation here and there many confirmed another suspicion I had why around March they always get into education mode with signs about 100% helmet etc. I'm sure you have seen those programs well it just happens W. H. O. That is around the time they make their millions donation to Thailand to help with the problem which we all know hasn't helped!
Unlike Bangkok, the Pattaya area is very small, many of the checkpoints in town as noted the one on Dophin Circle done just before the Dusit is pretty much the border to the station on Soi 9, go head down Naklua towards the fish market now the Banglamung station on Sukhumvit is in control, if you are anywhere near Hwy 7, underneath the overpass that is where they normally set up once the otherside of the rail tracks now Nongprue Station is control basically this is the Darkside check point done a lot on Soi Siam across from the Shell station.
Everyone has their territory and money collected stays?[/QUOTE]Have seen this more than on a few occasions. Somebody who is a resident explain this to me. All at the cross walk check point on BR Police Station near Central Festival Mall. I see foreigners get told to pull to the side and they do so and wait on their bikes until the officers come. Sometimes I see locals get told to pull to the side. They do so. Park their bike and then just walk away. Officers sometimes shout at them and then sometimes don't. Just then take the bike inside the station. Are they surrendering their bikes until the fine is paid or what? Is it a stolen bike? I mean they just walk away like nothing happened.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2780691]Funny, got me to write about your remarks timing. About two weeks ago I was at my regular routine of sweeping up outside and around my apartments, this is my way of keeping track of what tenants are doing more in the past than them skipping out on the rent. Young guy, I would say late 30's not sure what he does for money been around for years. He comes out and requests can I put a latch on his back door so he can close it shut basically with a hand gesture so no one can see him fucking. There have been times I see a lady pull up in her car on the Soi and walk into his place while sweeping I hear sounds LOL.
Sunday, the morning I'm sitting watching the NFL first round all of a sudden yelling and banging, I rush over to my retaining wall look over, and see 3 Thais guys opening a can of whip ass on the guy. The neighbor next to him suppose to be a cop just stands and watches so does everyone else in the neighborhood. When the talk and the girl screaming at one guy that had to be the husband or BF, I could see the woman although older than my renter had a pretty nice body. From hearing from some of the neighbors and other renters he is going to be laid up for a long time.[/QUOTE]Thai ladies going with Thai men make their husbands crazy, and can have lethal consequences.
Thai ladies going with foreigners is just business. As long as the lady comes home with cash.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ2t6ysHPlI[/URL]
Everyones Favorite Topic.
Runway Bar. Don't know if agogo or regular bar. In Pattaya. Saving Grace barfine is 500 baht. And they stayed till the end. Was a long time deal.
3,000 per Girl. Real Examples.
I can't imagine what 2 k will get you.
If you happen to watch Chat its obvious majority are equting Looks wiht price. If you actually look at the chubby one live it actually worse than thumbnail. Haha. No offense.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2780691]Funny, got me to write about your remarks timing. About two weeks ago I was at my regular routine of sweeping up outside and around my apartments, this is my way of keeping track of what tenants are doing more in the past than them skipping out on the rent. Young guy, I would say late 30's not sure what he does for money been around for years. He comes out and requests can I put a latch on his back door so he can close it shut basically with a hand gesture so no one can see him fucking. There have been times I see a lady pull up in her car on the Soi and walk into his place while sweeping I hear sounds LOL.
Sunday, the morning I'm sitting watching the NFL first round all of a sudden yelling and banging, I rush over to my retaining wall look over, and see 3 Thais guys opening a can of whip ass on the guy. The neighbor next to him suppose to be a cop just stands and watches so does everyone else in the neighborhood. When the talk and the girl screaming at one guy that had to be the husband or BF, I could see the woman although older than my renter had a pretty nice body. From hearing from some of the neighbors and other renters he is going to be laid up for a long time.[/QUOTE]Explorer has NO FEAR.
I fear for him. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2780309]Actually, the Thai lady has a better figure than 99% of the garotas in Copacabana.
If I needed a quickie with a Brazilian lady, no problem, but I haven't wanted to.
I am paying her about $30 a day. I suspect that the garotas are charging more than that.[/QUOTE]I see you are not a variety man like me. If you paid for her airline ticket it would have been rather expensive. I do get travelling with a Thai babe. The only nationality I stayed with in a country foreign to both of us was a Thai lady in Hong Kong but we agreed to meet there having each paid our own way.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2780772]Thai ladies going with Thai men make their husbands crazy, and can have lethal consequences.
Thai ladies going with foreigners is just business. As long as the lady comes home with cash.[/QUOTE]I guess you missed what Mr. E post back to you where this bargirl or go-go was on W. S. With her customer. Her husband a soldier assigned in Sattahip AWOL to track her down caught up just outside of a 7/11 neat Sky fall and cut her throat. I believe the customer got away? It was a bloody scene.
[QUOTE=ChaChumplin;2780801]Explorer has NO FEAR.
I fear for him. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]Actually, I decline to go to a certain neighborhood in Khao Talo, where there is a cluster of married ladies who come to my condo. Somehow, I just don't fancy sitting in a bar with their husbands.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2780823]I guess you missed what Mr. E post back to you where this bargirl or go-go was on W. S. With her customer. Her husband a soldier assigned in Sattahip AWOL to track her down caught up just outside of a 7/11 neat Sky fall and cut her throat. I believe the customer got away? It was a bloody scene.[/QUOTE]People get hit by lightning and then win the lottery.
If bargirls' husbands regularly attacked them for going with customers, there would be a bloody massacre every night. But, for most Thai men in Pattaya, they look for a lady making the big bucks off customers.
[QUOTE=ChaChumplin;2780799][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ2t6ysHPlI[/URL][/QUOTE]I just killed this guy's RPM / CPM. Scanned 30 seconds total of his 7 hour video. 7 hours!
Guy needs to buy an action camera or SLR with video stabilization.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2780406]Interesting comment on March. I've seen very few checkpoints, except for March 2022 when I saw several in Patong and one in Krabi.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys for all the feedbacks!
I will try then and give you all a feedback of how does it goes.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2780837]I just killed this guy's RPM / CPM. Scanned 30 seconds total of his 7 hour video. 7 hours!
Guy needs to buy an action camera or SLR with video stabilization.[/QUOTE]Thoughts on said girl and pricing.
A real Live example and no comments. Am I to assume she isn't all that appealing to anyone. Beach road quality.
I'm pretty sure she was picked because when the guy asked who will go Long Time she was the only one who raised their hand. No offense.
Moral of story. Hot girls are not doing Long Time.
It's not 1999.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2780828]People get hit by lightning and then win the lottery.
If bargirls' husbands regularly attacked them for going with customers, there would be a bloody massacre every night. But, for most Thai men in Pattaya, they look for a lady making the big bucks off customers.[/QUOTE]You do know we are talking in general that includes you!
No one mention every but you seem to have no problem with it in your own generalization post. All it takes is one time. I've been threaten twice and I'm considered a foreigner although I pass for a Thai, if you had a clue that might be even more threatening regardless of being older with a bit of money.
I've been around lots of girls in the business invited to their events to eat and drink like the rest of them at times they forget. Some guys as you noted don't care because the girl has control of the relationship with the money. Then there are those who don't know the full extend they are like hostesses work for the salary and drinks the worse are ones who are jealous and aggressive do and say anything to get in their pants once that happens start up.
In both, way back I Barfine and she wanted to go IBar for a bit the waiter was her husband for 8 years. One night after closing 4:00 am I got a call her husband hadn't picked her up she live a distant motorbike taxi not safe and too expensive 200 so I picked her up and took her home. ThereaftercI started to get calls from her phone it was the husband checking it escalated later to threatening message. Never take anyone for granted anywhere but I had the guy followed and confirm it myself personally as to his habits and work place. He was a nobody coward who beat women which is what he started to do with her. I sat her down told her I'm not going to bother with this guy not worth the effort but for her sake she needs to leave if not I deleting you. She didn't just one of those women that can't be without a man she pick men after man to look after her young son while she work.
Weeks later I get pictures the guy went berserk destroyed her pickup.
Truck guy was in cuffs taken away days later she takes him back It takes one these guys are mentally children that throw tantrums it only takes one!
Since I'm working on your generalization. Here is another. Ladies work because they need moneyy and borrow from others and can't pay back because many don't make what you think they make. They send or bring money home not only to their othe the are half but to support the rest of the family. While many are working Grandparents get a sum to care for their kids it is sad because many times the kids think the mother is the sister? If they are unlucky some parents uses the kids to blackmail for more money each month the pressure they face.
The girl I mentioned I once tagged along to meet her parent mother was a dragon lady greedy constantly berating her where is my house why you don't have a farang husband like your sister. It isn't always foreigner the BF or Husband!
Even Thais Asians in general make a bit of money first prior to to buy land and house during Covid many I stay in touched are never coming back covid has taught them to live with less farm the land the purchased.
Last, bit of news for you a great majority of so call marriages especially with workers aren't legal in the eyes of the law. They go to the Temple tell the monk tie a white string add round your wrist toss some water on you you done a parent can do this reason when it gets tough the men just walk.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2780993]You do know we are talking in general that includes you!
No one mention every but you seem to have no problem with it in your own generalization post. All it takes is one time. I've been threaten twice and I'm considered a foreigner although I pass for a Thai, if you had a clue that might be even more threatening regardless of being older with a bit of money.
I've been around lots of girls in the business invited to their events to eat and drink like the rest of them at times they forget. Some guys as you noted don't care because the girl has control of the relationship with the money. Then there are those who don't know the full extend they are like hostesses work for the salary and drinks the worse are ones who are jealous and aggressive do and say anything to get in their pants once that happens start up.
In both, way back I Barfine and she wanted to go IBar for a bit the waiter was her husband for 8 years. One night after closing 4:00 am I got a call her husband hadn't picked her up she live a distant motorbike taxi not safe and too expensive 200 so I picked her up and took her home. ThereaftercI started to get calls from her phone it was the husband checking it escalated later to threatening message. Never take anyone for granted anywhere but I had the guy followed and confirm it myself personally as to his habits and work place. He was a nobody coward who beat women which is what he started to do with her. I sat her down told her I'm not going to bother with this guy not worth the effort but for her sake she needs to leave if not I deleting you. She didn't just one of those women that can't be without a man she pick men after man to look after her young son while she work..[/QUOTE]Wow thanks for the insight. Never really thought the parents could be that why to their child, using them as a money bag.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2780837]I just killed this guy's RPM / CPM. Scanned 30 seconds total of his 7 hour video. 7 hours!
Guy needs to buy an action camera or SLR with video stabilization.[/QUOTE]I watched first 3 minutes then skipped forward and again subjected myself to another 2 minutes. My God. I need to take live on the ground videos when mongering. Wearing my 9/11 was an inside job shirt and preach hedonism or sing Karaoke. Who watches this? There was Zero entertainment value.
[QUOTE=GentileBear;2781029]I watched first 3 minutes then skipped forward and again subjected myself to another 2 minutes. My God. I need to take live on the ground videos when mongering. Wearing my 9/11 was an inside job shirt and preach hedonism or sing Karaoke. Who watches this? There was Zero entertainment value.[/QUOTE]You have to consider the source, so you're missing the audience. These are made for the junior varsity, those that don't ever get in the [I]game[/I], so have to live vicariously while in Mom's basement. Varsity [S]...[/S] we have our own films; they're called 1st person memories.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2780993]You do know we are talking in general that includes you!
No one mention every but you seem to have no problem with it in your own generalization post. All it takes is one time. I've been threaten twice and I'm considered a foreigner although I pass for a Thai, if you had a clue that might be even more threatening regardless of being older with a bit of money.
I've been around lots of girls in the business invited to their events to eat and drink like the rest of them at times they forget. Some guys as you noted don't care because the girl has control of the relationship with the money. Then there are those who don't know the full extend they are like hostesses work for the salary and drinks the worse are ones who are jealous and aggressive do and say anything to get in their pants once that happens start up.
In both, way back I Barfine and she wanted to go IBar for a bit the waiter was her husband for 8 years. One night after closing 4:00 am I got a call her husband hadn't picked her up she live a distant motorbike taxi not safe and too expensive 200 so I picked her up and took her home. ThereaftercI started to get calls from her phone it was the husband checking it escalated later to threatening message. Never take anyone for granted anywhere but I had the guy followed and confirm it myself personally as to his habits and work place. He was a nobody coward who beat women which is what he started to do with her. I sat her down told her I'm not going to bother with this guy not worth the effort but for her sake she needs to leave if not I deleting you. She didn't just one of those women that can't be without a man she pick men after man to look after her young son while she work.
Weeks later I get pictures the guy went berserk destroyed her pickup.
Truck guy was in cuffs taken away days later she takes him back It takes one these guys are mentally children that throw tantrums it only takes one!
Since I'm working on your generalization. Here is another. Ladies work because they need moneyy and borrow from others and can't pay back because many don't make what you think they make. They send or bring money home not only to their othe the are half but to support the rest of the family. While many are working Grandparents get a sum to care for their kids it is sad because many times the kids think the mother is the sister? If they are unlucky some parents uses the kids to blackmail for more money each month the pressure they face.
The girl I mentioned I once tagged along to meet her parent mother was a dragon lady greedy constantly berating her where is my house why you don't have a farang husband like your sister. It isn't always foreigner the BF or Husband!
Even Thais Asians in general make a bit of money first prior to to buy land and house during Covid many I stay in touched are never coming back covid has taught them to live with less farm the land the purchased.
Last, bit of news for you a great majority of so call marriages especially with workers aren't legal in the eyes of the law. They go to the Temple tell the monk tie a white string add round your wrist toss some water on you you done a parent can do this reason when it gets tough the men just walk.[/QUOTE]I am sure your stories are 100% true, they line up with my experience.
I understand that a Thai husband may not legally be a husband. It's rare for a bargirl to have an actual husband, for obvious reasons. Except for bargirls with Farang husbands.
But I don't think that barfining a bargirl incurs much risk of a jealous Thai man causing problems for them.
[QUOTE=GentileBear;2781029]I watched first 3 minutes then skipped forward and again subjected myself to another 2 minutes. My God. I need to take live on the ground videos when mongering. Wearing my 9/11 was an inside job shirt and preach hedonism or sing Karaoke. Who watches this? There was Zero entertainment value.[/QUOTE]The point is you get to see real Live girls and what they are paid.
The entertainment value is of dubious quality, agreed.
I'm trying to dispel the Myth 1,000 gets you hot girls.
If anyone would like to see what you get on Beach Road at 4 am for 1,000 baht just Hollar. I'll post the link.
Hint. They (2) could be considered Hot great grandmother s.
Nice personality s. Hahahaha.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2781203]I am sure your stories are 100% true, they line up with my experience.
I understand that a Thai husband may not legally be a husband. It's rare for a bargirl to have an actual husband, for obvious reasons. Except for bargirls with Farang husbands.
But I don't think that barfining a bargirl incurs much risk of a jealous Thai man causing problems for them.[/QUOTE]You are correct, especially BF a girl with a jealous Thai man, if we did that there would be no ISG, Although I pointed out to you it only takes once that once can be very disturbing. Being human I mentioned to you the girl I BF and went to I-Bar it didn't stop me from taking her to an ST room nor did the girl whose husband reck her truck and got arrested while there I did her for the last time in their bed. LOL.
[QUOTE=ChaChumplin;2781250]The point is you get to see real Live girls and what they are paid.
The entertainment value is of dubious quality, agreed.
I'm trying to dispel the Myth 1,000 gets you hot girls.
If anyone would like to see what you get on Beach Road at 4 am for 1,000 baht just Hollar. I'll post the link.
Hint. They (2) could be considered Hot great grandmother s.
Nice personality s. Hahahaha.[/QUOTE]REAL LIVE GIRLS? Be still my beating heart. Here's an alternate REALITY: visit yourself, and look with your own two eyeballs. And EVERY Thai girl is hot. It's THALAND, the cars don't have heaters in them. It gets below 21 C and it's considered a freaking blizzard. [B]AND[/B] given the old cliche IS true about beauty being in the eyes of the beholder, who's to say who's hot and who's not. That is a PERSONAL assessment, at least for those that DO. My advice - get in the game YOURSELF, don't ride the bench. Hahaha.
Beauty in eye of beholder is another mythical myth. Context Bargirls.
An ugly can find a 400 lb Swede who pays 3,000 while her 499 other customer s pay 1,000.
She still ugly. The 3,000 Baht was an outlier. It happens. Hahahaha.
[QUOTE=ChaChumplin;2781505]Beauty in eye of beholder is another mythical myth. Context Bargirls.
An ugly can find a 400 lb Swede who pays 3,000 while her 499 other customer s pay 1,000.
She still ugly. The 3,000 Baht was an outlier. It happens. Hahahaha.[/QUOTE]Einstein was right: everything is relative, I have my point of view, you have yours. Mine is based on experience and my written FR's; yours seems to be based on watching enumerable youtube videos and posting time wasting links. In all of your incarnations, never an FR with prices paid, services delivered (and I don't consider "making eye contact" a real service). But to each their own, whatever floats YOUR boat. I prefer FIRST hand experience, rather than denigrating others. But it is a free forum; members like [b]Sir Lancelot[/b], [b]Newton York[/b], and [b]The Kaiser[/b] make it worthwhile and show what is possible. So post away, I have [I]business[/I] to attend to. Hahaha.
There was a question about driving a motorcycle in Pattaya without a license, here is a news report aboit in Phuket, but it applies to Pattaya:
[URL]https://aseannow.com/topic/1283885-beware-thai-police-checkpoint-on-the-spot-fines-jumped-to-1000-baht/[/URL]
I have seen reports of checkpoints on 2nd Road.
How much does the average woman charge? Whether it's short or long time; and what type of women you may approach. Additionally, how much should one expect massages and extras cost? Finding consistent data on this has been very difficult.
[QUOTE=AspiringNomad;2781838]How much does the average woman charge? Whether it's short or long time; and what type of women you may approach. Additionally, how much should one expect massages and extras cost? Finding consistent data on this has been very difficult.[/QUOTE]Yes, it does take a bit of work, but since you are dealing with individuals, there will be variations. It's called free enterprise.
Average woman charge: it's 220 V, but the AMPS can be different based on her [I]hotness[/I].
You can approach anyone and everyone. Now, the REAL question is does she quote you a price or does she call the cops / BF to teach you some manners.
Massages and extras: check their laminated price sheet. If it's not INCLUSIVE, ask her, then determine if HER extras are worth it to YOU.
I thought everyone knew how to calculate the average: RTFF, the ROD's, plenty of data, note the length of time and the charge. Add each (ST, LT) separately in their columns, then use a spreadsheet to compute the averages of each. I do recall this being answered in the past, so RTFF.
Glad to help. Unfortunately, the ISG concierge and all the other PAID staff are off for the Chinese New Year.
[QUOTE=11Bravo;2781894]Yes, it does take a bit of work, but since you are dealing with individuals, there will be variations. It's called free enterprise.
Average woman charge: it's 220 V, but the AMPS can be different based on her [I]hotness[/I].
You can approach anyone and everyone. Now, the REAL question is does she quote you a price or does she call the cops / BF to teach you some manners.
Massages and extras: check their laminated price sheet. If it's not INCLUSIVE, ask her, then determine if HER extras are worth it to YOU.
I thought everyone knew how to calculate the average: RTFF, the ROD's, plenty of data, note the length of time and the charge. Add each (ST, LT) separately in their columns, then use a spreadsheet to compute the averages of each. I do recall this being answered in the past, so RTFF.
Glad to help. Unfortunately, the ISG concierge and all the other PAID staff are off for the Chinese New Year.[/QUOTE]Whatever you do Please don't think ultra low prices are available. Not to you or anybody in this forum.
You know what I mean. Hahaha.
Does anyone know why there are all the sudden 12 direct flights from Pattaya / Rayong (UTP) to obscure Siberia and Central Russian towns?
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2781931]Does anyone know why there are all the sudden 12 direct flights from Pattaya / Rayong (UTP) to obscure Siberia and Central Russian towns?[/QUOTE]Seasonal charter flights operated by Azur Air.
Pattaya is one of the most popular destinations for Russian tourists.
[QUOTE=AspiringNomad;2781838]How much does the average woman charge? Whether it's short or long time; and what type of women you may approach. Additionally, how much should one expect massages and extras cost? Finding consistent data on this has been very difficult.[/QUOTE]RTFF.
Anyway, I am back in Pattaya, had 2 ladies over to my condo yesterday. One was from Maggie Mays. Although she has a 19 year old Thai boyfriend (half her age), she's a 3 holer, and I am sure she doesn't want her boyfriend to know.
The second lady is the twin sister of the lady who went with me for 3 weeks. 2000 baht for all night. And she cleaned my condo in the morning.
[QUOTE=AspiringNomad;2781838]How much does the average woman charge? Whether it's short or long time; and what type of women you may approach. Additionally, how much should one expect massages and extras cost? Finding consistent data on this has been very difficult.[/QUOTE]LOL. 😂.
Did you know there is an online forum called the International Sex Guide where mongers can go to find information like this? Google it, I'm sure you will find it.
Probably due to upcoming proposed new mobilization by Putin to kill the remaining Russian men who have been hiding out in Siberia and other places in frozen tundra locations. Or, are you saying these are one way flights from Pattaya?. In which case, the Thais must be deporting Russians who overstay their visas.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2781931]Does anyone know why there are all the sudden 12 direct flights from Pattaya / Rayong (UTP) to obscure Siberia and Central Russian towns?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tomasb;2781952]Probably due to upcoming proposed new mobilization by Putin to kill the remaining Russian men who have been hiding out in Siberia and other places in frozen tundra locations. Or, are you saying these are one way flights from Pattaya?. In which case, the Thais must be deporting Russians who overstay their visas.[/QUOTE]Putting the Russian matter side for a minute, unless the guy has an international warrant (from his or another country) why should Thailand (or any other country) report an overstay? It is an infringement in Thailand and he can eventually be prosecuted there. Nothing to do with his own country who can care the less whether he overstays or not.
Then, of course, I hear what you say. On the other end Russia (Putin) having less meat for the front can't be so bad (for the other countries).
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2781931]Does anyone know why there are all the sudden 12 direct flights from Pattaya / Rayong (UTP) to obscure Siberia and Central Russian towns?[/QUOTE]There are not many countries where Russians are welcome anymore. So Thailand is one of the few countries that are still courting Russian tourists.
[QUOTE=AspiringNomad;2781838]How much does the average woman charge? Whether it's short or long time; and what type of women you may approach. Additionally, how much should one expect massages and extras cost? Finding consistent data on this has been very difficult.[/QUOTE]I'm in Pattaya now. Mainly pricing from TF and the Coconut bar (bc Soi 6 and the like are a bit overwhelming tbh) range from 1000 to 3000 for ST, LT I've seen 3000 to 5000.
I do have to ask, what is the etiquette for a GoGo bar here in Thailand? I'm from the US and know normal strip clubs. You pay the cover fee, sit down, maybe a 1 drink minimum. If you sit in the front row you are supposed to drop about 1 $ a song give or take. Lapdances are 20 $ ish. That's it. But what is the SOP here in Thailand?
Is there a difference for the Russian GoGos?
Maybe is the next country Putin want invade.
Have you seen the 1982 movie red dawn?? With the two Charlie sheen and Patrick Swayze.
I had a sponsor shark over today. She has only one goal: collect idiot sponsors. She has one guy on the hook now, she went with him for 3 days, he returned home, and is sending her money every week. Of course, he is asking for constant video chats, he sent a message tonight, but she was busy massaging my dick.
She pumped out a kid some years ago with a former boyfriend, and he is making long delayed child care payments, so that is a second income stream for her. So, she doesn't have to work, she just fishes for sponsors.
The takeaway is to avoid incurring long term debts during your holiday in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Gonova;2782009]I do have to ask, what is the etiquette for a GoGo bar here in Thailand? I'm from the US and know normal strip clubs. You pay the cover fee, sit down, maybe a 1 drink minimum. If you sit in the front row you are supposed to drop about 1 $ a song give or take. Lapdances are 20 $ ish. That's it. But what is the SOP here in Thailand?
Is there a difference for the Russian GoGos?[/QUOTE]Beware the Russian places are clip joints. Go in and spend $300 for drinks at your own risk.
The other places you go in sit down, order a drink. A girl may come sit with you and ask you to by her a drink. You can touch all on them and everything. You can pay the bar money to take her with you and pay another agreed upon amount to her directly. There is no cover and no giving chicks on stage money. Just go in and sit down and watch what everybody else does.
In my last visit, I had a good time in sabai dee with a good looking 30 year old chick. A few days later, I came across her outside while crossing the road. She was all smiles and waved at me from the other side. As luck would have it, I visited sabai dee again that afternoon and saw her. It was very clear she wanted me to select her, but I just smiled and selected another chick.
Should I have acted differently here?
Wondering if any light sleepers here have any recommendations for a well soundproofed hotel or apartment in Pattaya? Doesn't have to be close to the action. Would actually prefer it to be away from the scene. Also wondering if I could ask to see a room before booking. Think that would've been perfectly kosher in low season / before the Chinese floodgates opened, but unsure if the surely overwhelmed workers would bother allowing me to check out the place.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2781931]Does anyone know why there are all the sudden 12 direct flights from Pattaya / Rayong (UTP) to obscure Siberia and Central Russian towns?[/QUOTE]LOL. That's really funny.
[QUOTE=Ulalaulala123;2782129]In my last visit, I had a good time in sabai dee with a good looking 30 year old chick. A few days later, I came across her outside while crossing the road. She was all smiles and waved at me from the other side. As luck would have it, I visited sabai dee again that afternoon and saw her. It was very clear she wanted me to select her, but I just smiled and selected another chick.
Should I have acted differently here?[/QUOTE]Were you going there to pick the girl you wanted or the girl someone else wanted you to have? Only thing I would have done different was get her contact info the first time. No sense in paying soapy prices when you could give her half that outside and for LT.
[QUOTE=BPalacio;2782174]Wondering if any light sleepers here have any recommendations for a well soundproofed hotel or apartment in Pattaya? Doesn't have to be close to the action. Would actually prefer it to be away from the scene. Also wondering if I could ask to see a room before booking. Think that would've been perfectly kosher in low season / before the Chinese floodgates opened, but unsure if the surely overwhelmed workers would bother allowing me to check out the place.[/QUOTE]If only there were a topic about "Pattaya hotels " here.
[QUOTE=BPalacio;2782174]Wondering if any light sleepers here have any recommendations for a well soundproofed hotel or apartment in Pattaya? Doesn't have to be close to the action. Would actually prefer it to be away from the scene. Also wondering if I could ask to see a room before booking. Think that would've been perfectly kosher in low season / before the Chinese floodgates opened, but unsure if the surely overwhelmed workers would bother allowing me to check out the place.[/QUOTE]Kokotel was far enough from the action and didn't here too much noise when I was trying to sleep. I did hear some dogs barking a few different days around 3 am but guess that's just random.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2781936]RTFF.
Anyway, I am back in Pattaya, had 2 ladies over to my condo yesterday. One was from Maggie Mays. Although she has a 19 year old Thai boyfriend (half her age), she's a 3 holer, and I am sure she doesn't want her boyfriend to know.
The second lady is the twin sister of the lady who went with me for 3 weeks. 2000 baht for all night. And she cleaned my condo in the morning.[/QUOTE]I booked the same twin for a couple of days and went to pick her up. She was not around and ended up with the 3 holer for about 4 days. She lives just near Areca and disappeared a couple of times to feed her puppy and obviously catch up with the 19 year old.
She prefers natural anal to pussy sex which was very nice but it is a bit like playing with a loaded gun when I read that you are getting the same service and she had no hesitation at all with natural. Probably every bloke who takes her home and I think there would be many on her looks alone gets the same service. I may avoid Maggie's this time. Then again I probably will have too many beers one day and get the urge. I was only there a couple of months ago and if you are patient there's plenty to go around and beach road always pays dividends. I never do apps and don't feel the need.
[QUOTE=Tlito;2782221]I booked the same twin for a couple of days and went to pick her up. She was not around and ended up with the 3 holer for about 4 days. She lives just near Areca and disappeared a couple of times to feed her puppy and obviously catch up with the 19 year old.
She prefers natural anal to pussy sex... [/QUOTE]Are you sure the 19 yo boyfriend is in fact a boy? I've known girls who'se pussy is only for their girlfriend and ass is for punters.
Ain't love grand. 😊.
[QUOTE=Tlito;2782221]I booked the same twin for a couple of days and went to pick her up. She was not around and ended up with the 3 holer for about 4 days. She lives just near Areca and disappeared a couple of times to feed her puppy and obviously catch up with the 19 year old.
She prefers natural anal to pussy sex which was very nice but it is a bit like playing with a loaded gun when I read that you are getting the same service and she had no hesitation at all with natural. Probably every bloke who takes her home and I think there would be many on her looks alone gets the same service. I may avoid Maggie's this time. Then again I probably will have too many beers one day and get the urge. I was only there a couple of months ago and if you are patient there's plenty to go around and beach road always pays dividends. I never do apps and don't feel the need.[/QUOTE]The 3 holer doesn't go LT, because she knows if she doesn't go home with her 19 year old karaoke boy, some other lady will steal him.
The twins don't work at Maggie Mays, they live in the Darkside.
Anyway, I am off to Koh Samui with a friend of theirs.
[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2782220]Kokotel was far enough from the action and didn't here too much noise when I was trying to sleep. I did hear some dogs barking a few different days around 3 am but guess that's just random.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the suggestion. Did you think their rooms were soundproofed well? That's been the biggest difficulty for me in this process. Trying to find hotels away from the busier parts of the city, but have to rely on the testimonials and recs of veterans with boots on the ground in terms of which places are actually soundproofed well.
[QUOTE=BPalacio;2782275]Thanks for the suggestion. Did you think their rooms were soundproofed well? That's been the biggest difficulty for me in this process. Trying to find hotels away from the busier parts of the city, but have to rely on the testimonials and recs of veterans with boots on the ground in terms of which places are actually soundproofed well.[/QUOTE]Oh actually I forgot my friend could hear people having sex from his room LOL. So I rescind my recommendation.
[QUOTE=Ulalaulala123;2782129]In my last visit, I had a good time in sabai dee with a good looking 30 year old chick. A few days later, I came across her outside while crossing the road. She was all smiles and waved at me from the other side. As luck would have it, I visited sabai dee again that afternoon and saw her. It was very clear she wanted me to select her, but I just smiled and selected another chick.
Should I have acted differently here?[/QUOTE]That was not cool at all. Of course you should have selected her. She saw you from across the road and smiled and waved at you. She gave you a very good time previously. She obviously liked you very much so when she saw you she assumed you were going to choose her. Her heart must have sunk very badly when she saw you pick another girl.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2782087]I had a sponsor shark over today. She has only one goal: collect idiot sponsors. She has one guy on the hook now, she went with him for 3 days, he returned home, and is sending her money every week. Of course, he is asking for constant video chats, he sent a message tonight, but she was busy massaging my dick.
She pumped out a kid some years ago with a former boyfriend, and he is making long delayed child care payments, so that is a second income stream for her. So, she doesn't have to work, she just fishes for sponsors.
The takeaway is to avoid incurring long term debts during your holiday in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Why don't these sponsors do chaturbate type videos with the girls when they are in their homelands?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2782366]That was not cool at all. Of course you should have selected her. She saw you from across the road and smiled and waved at you. She gave you a very good time previously. She obviously liked you very much so when she saw you she assumed you were going to choose her. Her heart must have sunk very badly when she saw you pick another girl.[/QUOTE]They are Professional s. Don't tink too much.
Now if you take her again she might be a bit perturbed and give you bad service. Jealousy does happen.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2782181]Were you going there to pick the girl you wanted or the girl someone else wanted you to have? Only thing I would have done different was get her contact info the first time. No sense in paying soapy prices when you could give her half that outside and for LT.[/QUOTE]Come man all these tourists pay fair price. If it weren't for them you wouldn't be getting Hotties at half price.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2782368]Why don't these sponsors do chaturbate type videos with the girls when they are in their homelands?[/QUOTE]I have heard of ladies doing this, but not with sponsors.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2782366]That was not cool at all. Of course you should have selected her. She saw you from across the road and smiled and waved at you. She gave you a very good time previously. She obviously liked you very much so when she saw you she assumed you were going to choose her. Her heart must have sunk very badly when she saw you pick another girl.[/QUOTE]And she forgot about it 30 seconds later.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2782230]Are you sure the 19 yo boyfriend is in fact a boy? I've known girls who'se pussy is only for their girlfriend and ass is for punters.
Ain't love grand. 😊.[/QUOTE]100% sure the Thai boyfriend is male. And this lady uses her pussy with customers.
I do know ladies with girlfriends, but they all fuck customers, too.
The problem for me concerning ladies with girlfriends is they like their pussy licked hard. Not really licked, but smashed. Easy in theory, painful in practice. One lady smashed my face with her pubic bone so hard it loosened one of my front teeth.
One of my regulars is with child. The first hint was her breaking up with her Thai boyfriend, I guess he didn't want to be the baby daddy for a bargirl. Then, she announced her imminent departure from Pattaya, and hit me up for 300 baht.
Then, she showed her sonogram on Facebook.
The dates line up with her visits to my place, but she probably fucked dozens during that time, plus her boyfriend.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2782515]One of my regulars is with child. The first hint was her breaking up with her Thai boyfriend, I guess he didn't want to be the baby daddy for a bargirl. Then, she announced her imminent departure from Pattaya, and hit me up for 300 baht.
Then, she showed her sonogram on Facebook.
The dates line up with her visits to my place, but she probably fucked dozens during that time, plus her boyfriend.[/QUOTE]When will you find out who had the lucky swimmer?
Nope. I just went there to pick a new girl from the selection. Was not expecting her to be available there. Also it was afternoon time and only 1 other monger was there. It was awkward feeling. Had to hurry up selection.
Do these soapy girls do outside meets? I forgot to ask her number, but not sure she would have met outside.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2782181]Were you going there to pick the girl you wanted or the girl someone else wanted you to have? Only thing I would have done different was get her contact info the first time. No sense in paying soapy prices when you could give her half that outside and for LT.[/QUOTE]
Hmm. I would have thought to repeat her if the price was less, say a thousand baht, but no way at her soapy price of 3500. I think all working girls shouldn't expect mongers to repeat them just because they had good time before. Plenty of fish in the sea!
[QUOTE=Turgid;2782366]That was not cool at all. Of course you should have selected her. She saw you from across the road and smiled and waved at you. She gave you a very good time previously. She obviously liked you very much so when she saw you she assumed you were going to choose her. Her heart must have sunk very badly when she saw you pick another girl.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ulalaulala123;2782560]Hmm. I would have thought to repeat her if the price was less, say a thousand baht, but no way at her soapy price of 3500. I think all working girls shouldn't expect mongers to repeat them just because they had good time before. Plenty of fish in the sea![/QUOTE]Last year, I picked up a girl from a gogo place in Nana and I liked her. I went back to her the following night, but the mamasan would not release her until I have spent enough on drinks. They would not even tell me how much I needed to spend on drinks before they can release her. After that incident, I went fishing in other places, their loss.
[QUOTE=Ulalaulala123;2782557]...
Do these soapy girls do outside meets? I forgot to ask her number, but not sure she would have met outside.[/QUOTE]I have done it numerous times, but it's better if you invite her out on her day off. This way you don't have to pay barfines.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2782553]When will you find out who had the lucky swimmer?[/QUOTE]Since the Thai boyfriend bailed, no reason for the lady to disclose the name of the baby daddy.
She hit me up for 300 baht just now, promising to pay tomorrow. Hah!
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2782266]The 3 holer doesn't go LT, because she knows if she doesn't go home with her 19 year old karaoke boy, some other lady will steal him.
The twins don't work at Maggie Mays, they live in the Darkside.
Anyway, I am off to Koh Samui with a friend of theirs.[/QUOTE]I had a 3 holes for 4 days. Trust me it was a long long long time. And then I had her again long time after that.
There were twins that worked at Maggie's who now also work at Playgirlz.
You might not know as much about Maggie's as you think you do.
Have fun.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2782511]I have heard of ladies doing this, but not with sponsors.[/QUOTE]But sponsors should at least be getting something for their money when they are thousands of miles away.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2782679]But sponsors should at least be getting something for their money when they are thousands of miles away.[/QUOTE]"Should" is the key word. Sponsors get nothing, except they can chat with their lady when they are lonely, which is a lot.
Hi guys. I've been in Thailand 3 times before. Bangkok, Phuket and Pattaya. The first time I went, I was able to get a 2 hour full service for 1500 baht by negotiating a little late at night with a 25 year old girl late at night. (2 boom boom, cum in mouth without condom).
Some girls would accept 600 baht for short time. I made my last trip in 2020. It was the beginning of the pandemic and there were few prostitutes. Girls wanted 1500 baht for short time but accepted 1000 baht. Condom was a must. I miss the old days now. I'm back in Pattaya in February. Can I get a full service from a 25 year old average beauty girl for 1500 baht? (2 boom boom and CIM without condom) Or should I go directly to a cheaper destination? I need your recommendations. Have fun everybody.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd0oOQ22E54&t=119s[/URL]
Swipe right for Hot swipe Left for not.
Just trying to get a feel what you guys think is Hot. MeThinks Mr E would rate this Gurl off the charts. Haha.
Pizza is okay. But they need to get second opinion on signage. LOL.
[QUOTE=Tlito;2782640]I had a 3 holes for 4 days. Trust me it was a long long long time. And then I had her again long time after that.
There were twins that worked at Maggie's who now also work at Playgirlz.
You might not know as much about Maggie's as you think you do.
Have fun.[/QUOTE]The ladies who worked at Maggie Mays and now Playgirls are sisters, but not twins. They are from Laos, and have since brought various family members to Maggie Mays.
Carry on.
Hello guys,
As said before and with your help I took the chance to rent a motorcycle for driving in Pattaya.
So far so good I am here since 4 days and never gets arrested by police (Rookie luck?) I just want to mention that I have french motorcycle license and do drive motorcycles in general on daily basis.
It cost me 2000 thb deposit, and 400 thb per day for a small M-slaz (yamaha mt 125 like), I just avoid to drive on beach road a t night and like this I can drink freely.
That said I am a bit disapointed by the average level of girls here, girls get fatter and fatter year to year, to soi 6 from A gogo (LK and Walking) and also gents club girls are really poompui with belly:
The prices are a bit increasing soi 6 BF 500-600 and short time One hour 1500 thb, for the A gogo a bit more expensive than Bangkok 1000 BF and 3000ST, average cost for a LD 200 thb.
I don't hear a lot here about gentlemen's club here, it seems that it's a new trend here but as I said before I general you are stuck with fat old lady: most of them are on soi pot hole.
Soi boomerang have many bar but girls seems not quite good either:
For me the best way to find girls is definitely on soi6, girls here are chill and you can go LT with them for the price of a AGOGO ST.
I went to "eden" it was quite nice "high roller" was so deceptive:
If you have any recommendation or question don't hesitate.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2782854]The ladies who worked at Maggie Mays and now Playgirls are sisters, but not twins. They are from Laos, and have since brought various family members to Maggie Mays.
Carry on.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mate.
[QUOTE=Zboub;2783242]Hello guys,
It cost me 2000 thb deposit, and 400 thb per day for a small M-slaz (yamaha mt 125 like), I just avoid to drive on beach road a t night and like this I can drink freely..[/QUOTE]I don't know in which shop you're renting your bike and for how long but 400 per day for such a small bike looks very expensive.
Last time I was there (November 2022), I took a 150 PCX for 10 days at 200 baht per day plus 1000 deposit.
[QUOTE=Zboub;2783242]....
The prices are a bit increasing soi 6 BF 500-600 and short time One hour 1500 thb ...[/QUOTE]I've never paid more than 1000 for ST at Soi 6. I don't ask the price beforehand. I pay for the room, then I give 1000 to the girl at the end of the session. If a girl tells me beforehand she will want more than 1000 I take it as a bad omen and I walk away. The latter very rarely happens.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2783409]I don't know in which shop you're renting your bike and for how long but 400 per day for such a small bike looks very expensive.
Last time I was there (November 2022), I took a 150 PCX for 10 days at 200 baht per day plus 1000 deposit.[/QUOTE]As I reported last month, they were pulling that high season crap to charge more. First time ever hearing 2000 for deposit though.
Hi Guys, reporting from ground zero.
Back in Pattaya in a months time. Landed on Monday evening. Was actually searching for a flight ticket last Saturday to Phuket but timings were not working out. Checked Bangkok and got a real cheap ticket; around 40% less than what I paid for in December of Thai Airways.
My last visit was a business pleasure combined trip. This trip I rewarded myself for working hard last year, purely a relaxing laid back trip. Needed to spend some time alone and with myself.
Monday met the same lady that last time I had met in 2 K long time. I like her nature and she's very good and service oriented. I like girls who are totally into DFK as that's my weakness. I can compromise on any other service part but not to DFK. She is wild and she likes it. We had our breakfast as that's a part of package; I always book double occupancy with breakfast.
Monday night, had 2 ice creams and found myself in lot of body ache and mild throat pain Tuesday noon. Last visit too developed the same issue and was put on a course of 5 day antibiotics. Luckily, got the same drugs here in pharmacy in Pattaya.
Tuesday, my friend here at 6 PM sent me a girl to my room, 1500 baht. What a beautiful girl, model body, tall and very friendly. I did not ask my friend anything as trust him blindly. Resident of Pattaya since 10 years and owns a restaurant. I know that fella since 20 years as his company was my business client when he was working there. I had a lot of body ache and back pain. She herself said first boom boom and then she will give me a massage. Honestly, I was not expecting this. It was a complete GFE with her and then 40 minutes of dry massage. She actually was a massage therapist pre covid and now a freelancer. I called her again on Wednesday evening for only thai oil massage in 300 THB. She knew my condition well and offered to bring a balm and mixed it with Johnsons baby oil to massage my body to relieve my body ache. After Tuesdays blissful session, my body was in no condition to fuck. I had taken a pledge to only go out for a drink and come back after 2 hours. But the horny fucker I am, saw a chick with big natural boobs in red dress, followed her to tony club where she joined her 2 friends. And I broke my promise to myself. I had not slept for 3 nights continuously starting from my country. But her dancing and jumping boobs out of her dress caught my fancy. It was already 1. 30 am. Asked her and finalized at 3 k LT with the condition that all 3 friends will finish that big beer long pitcher and then go after one hour. During that time, I was not getting good vibes from her. So finally we departed at 2. 30. As soon as we came out, she said lets play on the table. I said I do not know, she was a bit tipsy and then she said if you play, I go with you. I said I do not want to learn and if you want I can leave alone. She said ok and she herself immediately left the club. I was damn happy that finally got her off my back. Took another drink of black label to spend 10/15 minutes and go back to my hotel and sleep. While I was leaving, saw a mature chick, tall and white. Fuck you me, went to her and finalized at 2 k LT. Sat on a motor bike at 3. 30 am and weather was windy and cool. Caught cold and was not in my right spirits. Her pussy was damn loose but no complaints on the GFE. Couldn't do another session in morning as I was not horny and in a lot of throat pain and a bit of fever. Since, yesterday again put on antibiotics 5 day course and a paracetamol every 6/8 hours.
Wednesday, rested whole day in the room followed by massage from 7 PM to 8 PM in 300 THB in my room only. Called a chick at 10 PM, contact provided by my acquaintance that I met last trip. Girl came at 10.10 and we both departed together at 11.15 pm. Great GFE in 1000 baht. Total satisfaction, despite excessively trying to come in pussy, failed and then had a nice CIM from her. No complaints at all. I went out for a couple of drinks of whisky at a beach road bar and get a bit tipsy. Came back to my room and had my sleeping pill, antibiotics and slept like a baby for 6 hours.
Last time also was afflicted by that bug and again too on antibiotics, so that is the only sad part of my 3 days here, rest all good.
Regards.
Since I live in Pattaya, when I have a lady over, if she doesn't perform well, I don't get angry, I just don't repeat. The ladies know that losing a repeat customer is a big loss, so most are good in bed.
The ladies who don't perform well don't last long in Pattaya, although there are exceptions.
In all cases, there will be ladies who simply don't want to fuck a particular customer, although they are okay with others.
They really don't want to ask for help when making their own signs?
I had a dud last night.
Some lady pinged my Facebook a few weeks ago, we messaged a bit, and I agreed to barfine her last night. When I showed up at her bar, she denied that the Facebook account was hers, and said it was her photo, but not her account. Weird.
So we went to my condo. When we arrived, she said she didn't drink. Even though she works in a bar. Oops.
Her first question was where's the condom? Obviously, she just wanted to do a quickie. So, we went to bed, where she proceeded to give me a vigorous but poor HJ.
A brief explanation: a HJ should be more than just grabbing a dick and jerking it. For example, the previous night's lady never grabbed my dick, she grabbed my balls with one hand and moved them around while licking my dick or sucking it. For a long time. Very nice.
Anyway, my disaster last night relented a bit when I brushed her pussy with my hand, she leaned back and let me lightly rub. For 3 minutes. Then she claimed she cum, and went back to agitating my dick. I got bored with that, gave her a condom, and she attempted to mount me for some Cowboy, but couldn't really get my dick inside. She quickly gave up and went back to agitating my dick.
I was bored of the whole thing by then, and sent her packing.
I guess either she didn't care for me, or got by with similar one shots with customers.
At night's end, she sent me a message from the Facebook account she said wasn't hers.
I connected with a lady on tinder. Pics shared on whatsapp were pretty and indeed she was pretty when she came over. Invited her for Thursday evening at 9 PM with a clear message that it is for short time and if we like each other, we will go for LT. My Long times have always been a failure, not able to perform or cannot do it as I need peaceful sleep. I am early riser and cannot share my room or washroom with anyone. It's a habit not able to break off. My day ends at around 10.30/11 Pm whereas these chicks wake in late evening. She quoted 1 K short time and 2500 long time. I said ok to come over. Clarified on the DFK and BJ and she had no problems.
Her 1st question before arrival; Do I drink. I said not much but I have whiskey in my room and can give you company. She reached at sharp 9. 10 PM and said she drinks only San Miguel light beer. Went to seven eleven and bought her 3 big bottles at 234 baht. She also informed me during the convo that she gets very horny and can do the sex after finishing her 3 beers. I complied with her this request as had no choice. Never could anticipate that she will take 2. 5 hours to knock off those 3 bottles. She was very friendly, chatty, nice body, good songs she had in her phone and had bought along a big Boat Speaker and converted my room into a party zone after 2 bottles. She was getting into the groove with a bit of DFK and removed my pants. She shared her life story, long one. Stay in a condo bought by her Indian BF; pics shown it was a luxurious one. He gifted her 20 k baht phone on New Year. See'Mon. Man, what's happening and what's wrong here? She has been to Australia twice and Finland once with her Australian guy. She doesn't have a kid, lost her virginity to her husband at age 19 and divorced at 21, found him cheating. Her eyes got wet when she shared her story. After her 3rd beer ended, went to washroom, had her shower and brushed her teeth. We crazily fucked like rabbits. I couldn't come as had lost the mojo as had a pill at 9 PM and session started after 3 hours. No complaints for the girl as sex with her was great and damn good fucking. I said want to CIM. She said baby 1st I finish and then you finish or we both finish together. She did her best to finish me off by getting on top and she came. She said she's very horny and can fuck again. We tried but I couldn't cum in pussy and she gave me a nice HJ. I have no complaints with the sex part and could have been a real great girl friend for the night but I do not do that. Only complaint is sex happened after 3 hours of chatting, drinking and listening to great music.
Initially, I had thought that my date with her will end by 10 or 10.30 PM and then I will go out to beach road or walking street. She was constantly receiving calls from a guy, another customer who was chasing and I was surprised by his behavior. She understood that I won't do LT and she confirmed to him from washroom. I overheard the conversation. 1. 30 am I did go to beach road and walking street to satisfy my itch, decent good girls on the road to be picked up at 1 k. But I just put my head down, looked at them and walked away as knew my body well. Took a tuk tuk back and reached my room at 2. 30 am to take my pills and sleep off.
Guys, I need your advice from veterans here of my age. I am 50,6 feet, slim, smart and look handsome (girls say this, not me), am fair, maintain myself well. Yesterday girl guessed my age as 37 and I said 44. My issue is that I want to come in pussy by fucking as that's heavenly for me, but settle for HJ or CIM. I can fuck well, good and continuously but cannot cum on a daily regular basis. I know the advice of enjoy the experience, go with the flow, don't think so much, sex is all in the mind etc etc etc. Kindly advise either here or on DM. Anything that needs to be done at my end.
Appreciate it.
Regards.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2783516]As I reported last month, they were pulling that high season crap to charge more. First time ever hearing 2000 for deposit though.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback, I compare prices on other sites and it seems that is was a "fair" price, I mean for the big rental companies, at first they propose me a scooter at 200 thb per day it was a Honda but I don't memember the model, however I wanted a proper bike so I ask another one which was 400 thb, I checked other company and for the similar price we had the same services (400 thb / day for a msx).
I am sure that we always can find cheaper but I really don't wanted to have issues, I rent the bike at "Zoride motorbike" feel free to go or not.
For the price at soi 6 I forget to mention but even if I take girls in ST, I bring them home I don't go in the room above the bar, that could explain the price difference.
I am going back to Hong Kong on Sunday, the night life there is far from growing back like in pattaya but there is always some plans.
Cheers!
I got a random message from a lady in Isaan. I asked her when she was coming to Pattaya. She said s he had no money. Send money.
Instant block and delete.
And old scam, she needed beer money. Maybe not even a lady.
[QUOTE=DevSagar;2783828]......Guys, I need your advice from veterans here of my age. I am 50,6 feet, slim, smart and look handsome (girls say this, not me), am fair, maintain myself well. Yesterday girl guessed my age as 37 and I said 44. My issue is that I want to come in pussy by fucking as that's heavenly for me, but settle for HJ or CIM. I can fuck well, good and continuously but cannot cum on a daily regular basis. I know the advice of enjoy the experience, go with the flow, don't think so much, sex is all in the mind etc etc etc. Kindly advise either here or on DM. Anything that needs to be done at my end.
Appreciate it.
Regards.[/QUOTE]Zinc helps with the build-up of semen which would help you to come more often. The best source of zinc I know is oysters. Eat lots of oysters and that should help you to CIP more often.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2784183]I got a random message from a lady in Isaan. I asked her when she was coming to Pattaya. She said s he had no money. Send money.
Instant block and delete.
And old scam, she needed beer money. Maybe not even a lady.[/QUOTE]Funnily I also got one in tf couple of days ago. Chatted with her over couple of days as if I would believe everything she say, trying to arrange a date that did not work out as she did not want I go see her in ubon, and I did not volunteer to send money to her regardless of her subtle messages that she has no money at all to travel to pattaya.
She was seemingly no too smart as took so long. At the end she blocked me!
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2784183]I got a random message from a lady in Isaan. I asked her when she was coming to Pattaya. [/QUOTE]You respond to these? No wonder "girls" send them out. I find zero need to even acknowledge these messages since all I need to do to find a real girl is walk out my front door.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2784260]Zinc helps with the build-up of semen which would help you to come more often. The best source of zinc I know is oysters. Eat lots of oysters and that should help you to CIP more often.[/QUOTE]Hmm that wouldn't necessarily help with the finish? But it will just help you splash more at the finish line? Went 3 days in a row but on 4th day couldn't finish even though I really liked her and plan to see again. Went like 30+ minutes, kind of felt bad forgot to tip.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2784316]You respond to these? No wonder "girls" send them out. I find zero need to even acknowledge these messages since all I need to do to find a real girl is walk out my front door.[/QUOTE]On rare occasions, these pan out. I was getting messages from a girl planning to come to Pattaya when she was 18. I ended up being her first customer.
Sometimes the messages come from friends of ladies I know.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2784308]Funnily I also got one in tf couple of days ago. Chatted with her over couple of days as if I would believe everything she say, trying to arrange a date that did not work out as she did not want I go see her in ubon, and I did not volunteer to send money to her regardless of her subtle messages that she has no money at all to travel to pattaya.[/QUOTE]I just say well call me when you get here. Surprisingly a lot of them do!
[QUOTE=DevSagar;2783828]I connected with a lady on tinder. Pics shared on whatsapp were pretty and indeed she was pretty when she came over. Invited her for Thursday evening at 9 PM with a clear message that it is for short time and if we like each other, we will go for LT. My Long times have always been a failure, not able to perform or cannot do it as I need peaceful sleep. I am early riser and cannot share my room or washroom with anyone. It's a habit not able to break off. My day ends at around 10.30/11 Pm whereas these chicks wake in late evening. She quoted 1 K short time and 2500 long time. I said ok to come over. Clarified on the DFK and BJ and she had no problems.
Her 1st question before arrival; Do I drink. I said not much but I have whiskey in my room and can give you company. She reached at sharp 9. 10 PM and said she drinks only San Miguel light beer. Went to seven eleven and bought her 3 big bottles at 234 baht. She also informed me during the convo that she gets very horny and can do the sex after finishing her 3 beers. I complied with her this request as had no choice. Never could anticipate that she will take 2. 5 hours to knock off those 3 bottles. She was very friendly, chatty, nice body, good songs she had in her phone and had bought along a big Boat Speaker and converted my room into a party zone after 2 bottles. She was getting into the groove with a bit of DFK and removed my pants. She shared her life story, long one. Stay in a condo bought by her Indian BF; pics shown it was a luxurious one. He gifted her 20 k baht phone on New Year. See'Mon. Man, what's happening and what's wrong here? She has been to Australia twice and Finland once with her Australian guy. She doesn't have a kid, lost her virginity to her husband at age 19 and divorced at 21, found him cheating. Her eyes got wet when she shared her story. After her 3rd beer ended, went to washroom, had her shower and brushed her teeth. We crazily fucked like rabbits. I couldn't come as had lost the mojo as had a pill at 9 PM and session started after 3 hours. No complaints for the girl as sex with her was great and damn good fucking. I said want to CIM. She said baby 1st I finish and then you finish or we both finish together. She did her best to finish me off by getting on top and she came. She said she's very horny and can fuck again. We tried but I couldn't cum in pussy and she gave me a nice HJ. I have no complaints with the sex part and could have been a real great girl friend for the night but I do not do that. Only complaint is sex happened after 3 hours of chatting, drinking and listening to great music.
Initially, I had thought that my date with her will end by 10 or 10.30 PM and then I will go out to beach road or walking street. She was constantly receiving calls from a guy, another customer who was chasing and I was surprised by his behavior. She understood that I won't do LT and she confirmed to him from washroom. I overheard the conversation. 1. 30 am I did go to beach road and walking street to satisfy my itch, decent good girls on the road to be picked up at 1 k. But I just put my head down, looked at them and walked away as knew my body well. Took a tuk tuk back and reached my room at 2. 30 am to take my pills and sleep off.
Guys, I need your advice from veterans here of my age. I am 50,6 feet, slim, smart and look handsome (girls say this, not me), am fair, maintain myself well. Yesterday girl guessed my age as 37 and I said 44. My issue is that I want to come in pussy by fucking as that's heavenly for me, but settle for HJ or CIM. I can fuck well, good and continuously but cannot cum on a daily regular basis. I know the advice of enjoy the experience, go with the flow, don't think so much, sex is all in the mind etc etc etc. Kindly advise either here or on DM. Anything that needs to be done at my end.
Appreciate it.
Regards.[/QUOTE]Every BODY is different. If you can't do it daily don't. A lot of what you see has to be embellishments. No offense.
[QUOTE=DevSagar;2783828]
I couldn't come as had lost the mojo as had a pill at 9 PM and session started after 3 hours.
SNIP
Guys, I need your advice from veterans here of my age. I am 50,6 feet, slim, smart and look handsome (girls say this, not me), am fair, maintain myself well. Yesterday girl guessed my age as 37 and I said 44. My issue is that I want to come in pussy by fucking as that's heavenly for me, but settle for HJ or CIM. I can fuck well, good and continuously but cannot cum on a daily regular basis. I know the advice of enjoy the experience, go with the flow, don't think so much, sex is all in the mind etc etc etc. Kindly advise either here or on DM. Anything that needs to be done at my end.
[/QUOTE]My advice: don't take those pills. They give you a boner, but make cumming more difficult. In my experience at least.
And maybe you're just getting too old to cum every day, so just skip a day every now and then.
[QUOTE=DevSagar;2783828]
Guys, I need your advice from veterans here of my age. I am 50,6 feet, slim, smart and look handsome (girls say this, not me), am fair, maintain myself well. Yesterday girl guessed my age as 37 and I said 44. My issue is that I want to come in pussy by fucking as that's heavenly for me, but settle for HJ or CIM. I can fuck well, good and continuously but cannot cum on a daily regular basis. I know the advice of enjoy the experience, go with the flow, don't think so much, sex is all in the mind etc etc etc. Kindly advise either here or on DM. Anything that needs to be done at my end.
Appreciate it.
Regards.[/QUOTE]Maybe you need to go the prostrate stimulation route to cum daily. I am sure you will find away in Pattaya. Start at Soi Chaiyapoon. You are 50 and act like Google don't exist.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2784448]My advice: don't take those pills. They give you a boner, but make cumming more difficult......[/QUOTE]True but at least you can bang even though you may not cum. The alternative is that you don't get a boner, therefore you cannot bang and you still cannot finish.
I think my advice holds true, with a boner and increased semen capacity you have a greater chance of ejaculating.
I know google exists but I am in touch with Docs who are experts in medicine and dear friends, so do not need google. I am back home now last night but next time will try that prostrate stimulation but only after consulting with my Doc friends. Though I am not keen for it.
Thanks or your advice.
Regards.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2784450]Maybe you need to go the prostrate stimulation route to cum daily. I am sure you will find away in Pattaya. Start at Soi Chaiyapoon. You are 50 and act like Google don't exist.[/QUOTE]
Yes, you are right. I go clubbing every night, see a lot of pussy, get greedy and get one to my hotel. Its just greed and lust to cum daily and allow my little head to take over my big head.
Thanks will try to do it once in 2 days when I am there. I have used this formula in my country where it works fine. Pill also sometimes not required if I get a true GFE with a lot of DFK. But yes it gives a boner and easier penetration if I have to act like a greedy child in a toy store.
Many thanks again.
Regards.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2784448]My advice: don't take those pills. They give you a boner, but make cumming more difficult. In my experience at least.
And maybe you're just getting too old to cum every day, so just skip a day every now and then.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your advice on the zinc. Will speak with my doc friend here and if he says yes, will immediately start. They are friends who do not charge me a fee and big time fuckers as well. So, we share the same interest. LOL. I also agree with another buddy who advised against taking the pill. But, I take a very mild dose of sildenafil. With some guys, pills don't work but with me they have been helping me with a boner when I go on a holiday like this. Flacid dick, girl also lose interest and make a sorry face which is an further embarrassment for me. Home country, I do not fuck everyday and hence, not needed. After a couple of days, I do and I do well man. Girls tell me Wow, that was good. LOL. I tried tadlafil too but that's a rarity for me because it remains in my body for like 24/36 hours and then if I am abroad, man always thinking of pussy and want to bang every girl that I see on road or club. I like your idea of oysters, good food and do not mind if my docs say to take a pill on daily basis just for a few days to jack up my zinc content in body. I know I have been a greedy fucker in Pattaya and I do not blame myself. Love the vibrancy and vibe of the city so much, been coming since 12 years. Except the Pandemic.
Thank you so much.
Regards.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2784260]Zinc helps with the build-up of semen which would help you to come more often. The best source of zinc I know is oysters. Eat lots of oysters and that should help you to CIP more often.[/QUOTE]
You get to that age there is a number of reasons why? One, believe it or not, you even lose interest it doesn't take much of a distraction something that was promised then you get into the room it doesn't happen a letdown the session is over. Age comes with the decline in hormones reason for some op for treatment is your thing if not then you go the route of pills like Viagra. When that happens being able to finish has nothing to do with the volume of your semen in my opinion. I know even in my better days the more I was active daily the harder it was to finish.
Then comes age also comes the medical condition after some research I realized in my own situation have taken Statins for a number of years it started to catch up where it affecting erection and volume. There were times the ladies questioned whether I came not seeing much in the condom then age comes in a great majority start to have prostate problems which also affects the explosion finish we expect. Talking about Zinc is a key ingredient mineral recommended for those to take if they believe in supplements in the early stages before considering alternative surgery.
Last, year due to statins I started to have a breakdown of my bones and muscle physically I stopped cold turkey within a week the pain and soreness I felt in my arms were gone within a month I woke up woody hasn't happened in years even my volume is much better but regardless planning ahead is a must if I know I'm pulling the trigger anywhere, GoGo, GC, I take Kamagra gels prior, the hardest planning is if I try a new girl for massage planning is near impossible so luck has to play in it that she is so good that I don't need help.
Aging is a ***** no matter how well you take care of yourself.
Got matched with another chick on a dating app. She stayed around 40/50 kms from Pattaya. Her location to my location. Very pretty chick. We started chatting on Friday morning and in late evening she pinged me with a question- What are your plans for tonight, want to hang out? I said yes and she confirmed that she will be over to my hotel by around 10.30 PM. I was waiting for her to give me her price but she did not quote anything. I had my doubt that she will bail on me. She came at around 11. I went down to receive her and check her in property and found her parking her own car, Nissan. I said immediately, rich lady. She said she likes driving and she herself drove this car for 9 hours, her hometown from where she stays now. I had bought a bottle of JD honey as Monday chick wanted but we did not drink as just fucked and slept off, so had a sealed bottle. I Had a drink in warm water with her and she on the rocks. Tried kissing her, she said wait; let's go out. I said WTF have I got myself into. She could see the frown on my face and slightly lipped kiss me but no DFK. We went out for 2 hours at a beach road bar and had a few drinks of whiskey. She got a bit tipsy and came back to room at 2. 30 am. During the conversation, she clarified that first both of us will have shower and then action, as she's comfortable with DFK post that not prior. She stays alone in a condo, works in a company and since it was Friday night, she wanted to go out. Otherwise is home bound. I still was in 2 minds on the price front. No hints as yet.
Guys, I would only like to describe her as a very beautiful white skin 31 year old, perfect slim and trim body with natural big boobs with perfect nipples on them. The best girl of my 15 day 2 trips to Thailand in 45 days. I do not have any complaints on any part of my meet with her post the shower. She simply satisfied me with my DFK complaint as we were lip locked and tongue tied for the entire time till she made me happy with CIM. She has no kid, not married but the pussy was loose. Shared her story as do not believe in the institution of marriage, hates her mother and loves her father. We slept at 5 am and I woke up to check on my office work at 7 am. At around 9 am, woke her up and offered her to have her breakfast with me but she refused as eats only one time, preferably lunch. I was expecting her to at least give me a figure but it was not coming. She got ready to leave and we both got down together to see her off in her car. I asked her in elevator, she said give whatever you feel comfortable with. I said please let me know your expectations. She said 4 K, I said can you please take 3 K, she said I told you give me whatever you comfortable with. I gave her 3500 baht in the elevator and she did not check and silently put it in her purse, could have saved 500 but was super happy to have connected with her. She also advised me to stay in an apartment and not take hotel as it's pricy. I'the save money, nice chick. She also said that I could come over to her condo next time for a day and stay but I am not keen on that. I asked her number, she said lets remain connected on bumble. She'll give if she has to but later. I asked her ID before she got into her car and she handed it over to me. I saw that she was July 1992 born. Pro or non pro, I don't care. I would love to see her again whenever I am back in Thailand. Sincerely hope and pray, either her number or line ID she shares later and do not unmatch me.
Saturday, I simply did club hopping as Sunday morning had a flight to catch back to hometown. Will share my Saturday journey as well.
Regards.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2784548]True but at least you can bang even though you may not cum. The alternative is that you don't get a boner, therefore you cannot bang and you still cannot finish.[/QUOTE]If I cannot get a boner, or cannot keep it up, the girl can give me a blow job, so I still have a possibility to finish. That's how I look at it.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2784548]I think my advice holds true, with a boner and increased semen capacity you have a greater chance of ejaculating.[/QUOTE]Could be true, I don't know. I'm not a doctor.
Container of oysters 30 baht. Crackers 10 baht. Eating this at food court with all the girls watching is priceless. They know what it is for and what time it is when I am done.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2784354]I just say well call me when you get here. Surprisingly a lot of them do![/QUOTE]Sure if you just looking for the deal and cut off any BS.
This case (that was first of its kind for me) I just wanted to join the game that was obvious from the get-go, just to test how long can stretch until it bursts. I just decided I will not be the one that cuts or blocks, rather waited her play until the end. She (or he.) was throwing in various baits to try to hook the catch. Was kind of entertaining. Maybe will create another tf profile to play another time some day to see how it goes, she seems still be playing with same profile.
One thing I learnt about Isaan: it is so small that can not arrange the date anywhere in Isaan as someone might see, and family is so much into tradition that seeing is not acceptable 555.
One doesn't need to be a doctor?
It is pshyological I would think from the first time at a young age you got a boner? Since then you do it rock hard like a T-Bone steak reason Viagra was created sure one can cum limp as a wet noodle but being men we are brought blasting off like a rocket. LOL,
Once it goes limp the space mission is over I can't see laying there watching her blow on a wet noodle it kind of goes against nature.
I've noticed a complete lack of reviews lately, myself included. Looking for info to see if there are new bars to go to when I return. Did some quick scanning for this information seeking a post that mentions a BAR NAME or GIRL NAME. Last post with either of these simple requirements was posted 95 posts ago on January 16 by LBM and a couple of posts earlier by ElMexicant. Gonova also had a quick sentence before this mentioning barfine prices at the bar he went to.
The title of this thread is Pattaya Reports. There are other threads to posts all other things not directly related to Pattaya.
There really should be a Viagra thread and Admin can move all general posts to that thread.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2784739]One thing I learnt about Isaan: it is so small that can not arrange the date anywhere in Isaan as someone might see, and family is so much into tradition that seeing is not acceptable 555.[/QUOTE]Isan is the size of England. Whenever a chick tells me she is from Isan, I say but where? Isan is big.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2784670]You get to that age there is a number of reasons why? One, believe it or not, you even lose interest it doesn't take much of a distraction something that was promised then you get into the room it doesn't happen a letdown the session is over. Age comes with the decline in hormones reason for some op for treatment is your thing if not then you go the route of pills like Viagra. When that happens being able to finish has nothing to do with the volume of your semen in my opinion. I know even in my better days the more I was active daily the harder it was to finish.
Then comes age also comes the medical condition after some research I realized in my own situation have taken Statins for a number of years it started to catch up where it affecting erection and volume. There were times the ladies questioned whether I came not seeing much in the condom then age comes in a great majority start to have prostate problems which also affects the explosion finish we expect. Talking about Zinc is a key ingredient mineral recommended for those to take if they believe in supplements in the early stages before considering alternative surgery.
Last, year due to statins I started to have a breakdown of my bones and muscle physically I stopped cold turkey within a week the pain and soreness I felt in my arms were gone within a month I woke up woody hasn't happened in years even my volume is much better but regardless planning ahead is a must if I know I'm pulling the trigger anywhere, GoGo, GC, I take Kamagra gels prior, the hardest planning is if I try a new girl for massage planning is near impossible so luck has to play in it that she is so good that I don't need help.
Aging is a ***** no matter how well you take care of yourself.[/QUOTE]Biggest session killer for me is SAGGY titties. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2784785]I've noticed a complete lack of reviews lately, myself included. Looking for info to see if there are new bars to go to when I return. Did some quick scanning for this information seeking a post that mentions a BAR NAME or GIRL NAME. Last post with either of these simple requirements was posted 95 posts ago on January 16 by LBM and a couple of posts earlier by ElMexicant. Gonova also had a quick sentence before this mentioning barfine prices at the bar he went to.
The title of this thread is Pattaya Reports. There are other threads to posts all other things not directly related to Pattaya.
There really should be a Viagra thread and Admin can move all general posts to that thread.[/QUOTE]Chill bro. Isn't part of the fun finding your own Special GEM.
There really isn't anything new happening in Thailand. It's all same same Topics over and over again.
That's just the way it is.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2784670]You get to that age there is a number of reasons why? One, believe it or not, you even lose interest it doesn't take much of a distraction something that was promised then you get into the room it doesn't happen a letdown the session is over. Age comes with the decline in hormones reason for some op for treatment is your thing if not then you go the route of pills like Viagra. When that happens being able to finish has nothing to do with the volume of your semen in my opinion. I know even in my better days the more I was active daily the harder it was to finish.
Then comes age also comes the medical condition after some research I realized in my own situation have taken Statins for a number of years it started to catch up where it affecting erection and volume. There were times the ladies questioned whether I came not seeing much in the condom then age comes in a great majority start to have prostate problems which also affects the explosion finish we expect. Talking about Zinc is a key ingredient mineral recommended for those to take if they believe in supplements in the early stages before considering alternative surgery.
Last, year due to statins I started to have a breakdown of my bones and muscle physically I stopped cold turkey within a week the pain and soreness I felt in my arms were gone within a month I woke up woody hasn't happened in years even my volume is much better but regardless planning ahead is a must if I know I'm pulling the trigger anywhere, GoGo, GC, I take Kamagra gels prior, the hardest planning is if I try a new girl for massage planning is near impossible so luck has to play in it that she is so good that I don't need help.
Aging is a ***** no matter how well you take care of yourself.[/QUOTE]So are you completely off statins now? I have had heriditary high cholesterol since teenage years and thus have been taking statins for around two decades plus at a small dosage. But I've considered stopping completely as many believe statins are not necessary and come with side effects.
[QUOTE=ChaChumplin;2784862]Chill bro. Isn't part of the fun finding your own Special GEM.
There really isn't anything new happening in Thailand. It's all same same Topics over and over again.
That's just the way it is.[/QUOTE]Agreed, some people just need to complain for no reason.
The only thing new about Pattaya is the degree to which it has recovered from Covid.
Generally, Pattaya is about the same as before Covid.
Specifically, Walking Street has more closed discos and gogos, and there are sections of of town with a lot of closed shops. And less bars on Soi 6.
But, hardly noticeable to tourists.
This place has really gone to shit. Used to be top 3 or 4 before COVID. I remember in 2018, they boasted close to 200 girls a night with 4 rotations. Back then, they gave Palace a run for its money with the younger Asian weekend warriors. Good news is Indians are allowed in now. No way back then. My last trip there, only girl that interested me was a waitress. Skinny but decent looking. Told her I had a big group of Korean buddies visiting in a few days and they would like to come to Sensations. Told her I wanted her to waitress for us and they are big tippers. That got her to come to my hotel room before her shift for 2000 flat 1 hour. She felt as she hasn't been fucked in ages. Could not take much and whimpered a bunch. Said I was too deep in every position. Crybaby. Even CG with her controlling it. It wasn't good boom boom. Had to finish with a HJ and cum in face. Wonder if she is still waiting for the Koreans to come. Hehehe. Baccara is #2 now. Sometimes the upstairs will open up. Mostly on weekends. The Chinese are slowly filling that bar back up. Pin Up still top dog with Baccara closing in. I recognized 5-6 What's Up girl and former Pin Ups at Baccara, so the tide is turning. Drinks are still expensive there though.
My doc friend has informed me that the issue or the problem is not semen deficiency. I am ejaculating means no less semen. I can eat oysters if I like them but to eat as a supplement for zinc or to put me on zinc pills is not needed. His exact words to me.
I and he knows and like every one here, I banged 6 chicks in 5 days so that would have happened. Thanks for your precious words everyone on the forum.
I will not take too much of space here. Visited 6 clubs on Saturday night; insomnia and Lucifer, and 4 Indian clubs for 30 to 45 minutes each. Indian clubs were jam packed, walking street looked like a fair overtaken by Chinese or people from SEA due to Chinese New Year. Difficult to walk. Drinks pricey in Indian clubs by approx 30% in comparison to Lucifer / insomnia and selling like hot cakes. The chicks that I saw in those 2 clubs were not that attractive and were not being picked up by white guys (sorry, no offense to any race / creed).
Just one simple query as last chick from Lucifer I picked was in 2017. What are the price levels as of now in those kind of clubs as I did not approach anyone as had a flight to catch next day and wouldn't have been able to perform due to excessive fucking from my side. Just a rough idea from guys who've picked up from those kind of clubs. A chick who I had brought to my room a couple of days ago told me that I should also visit Mixx and Republik and she had a 50% discount card for drinks from 3 clubs. So, she was willing to go along on that day or later and I could have saved money but I did not go. Insomnia offered me a 20% discount if I became a member. I am sure everyone got that offer as cards were lying on the drinks counter.
Many thanks again guys.
Regards.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2784260]Zinc helps with the build-up of semen which would help you to come more often. The best source of zinc I know is oysters. Eat lots of oysters and that should help you to CIP more often.[/QUOTE]
The prior report noted some negative aspects of growing old (I am now 74) while still attempting to monger. All are valid reasons and, unfortunately, I have an even worse condition. In 2016 while traveling in Europe, all of a sudden I had difficulty urinating. I went to a clinic and the doctor diagnosed that I had a urinary tract infection preventing the passage of urine and prescribed antibiotics to clear it up. I got some immediate relief but the issue returned at end of trip. By the time I arrived in US, I needed to go to ER where they put me on a catheter and drained 2 1/2 litres of urine from my bladder. After that, they did diagnostics and my urologist determined I needed green light laser surgery to widen my urinary tract. He also said my bladder had lost much of its flexibility also impeding urination. However, he did not explain to me that a consequence most times of this surgery is it also blocks the sperm from ejaculating. I can still have an erection and orgasm but no sperm ever leaves my body.
This condition has significantly diminished my interest in sexual activity. Obviously, he's at massage parlours can't occur so why bother. Try explaining my condition to someone who barely speaks and understands English. Of course, I still use condoms and in this way I can hide the lack of sperm (unless I am in Peru where chicas have been known to rummage through wastebaskets seeking proof you came LOL). I have since read there are some urology specialists in LA who can do this delicate surgery without impacting ejaculation but when one has a catheter in your dick, most men think of immediate remedying the condition.
Yes, growing old sucks.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;2784962]...I can still have an erection and orgasm but no sperm ever leaves my body.
This condition has significantly diminished my interest in sexual activity...[/QUOTE]That sounds fine to me. As long as I can still orgasm I don't see the problem. Or is the feeling of the ejac part of the enjoyment of orgasm that we're unaware of?
I still feel like I am having an ejaculation and an orgasm though, as noted, no substance appears except sometimes pre cum or even a bit of urine. A lot of woman expect to see sperm as part of the sexual act, and if it's not there, then they think they have not satisfied you in some way. That can be a problem. Of course, at a massage place, a visible ejaculation would be impossible to attain and I prefer not to deal with it or just tell them no when they decide to pursue that option. Basically, I look for legit spas as soapies etc. Are off the menu.
[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2784971]That sounds fine to me. As long as I can still orgasm I don't see the problem. Or is the feeling of the ejac part of the enjoyment of orgasm that we're unaware of?[/QUOTE]
This is going to be controversial, but I've been here for 3 days already, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down. Not in regards for tourism and cheaper prices compared to Bangkok and Phuket, but I mean in regards to girls. While there is an abundance of women everywhere with plenty of bars, a go go clubs, street walkers, and massage places. I have to give this an average rating due to how unattractive these girls are. You can have 1000 girls on one block, but if they are fat and old then really what is the true quantity of women available in Pattaya? I don't know how guys are rating girls, but I haven't seen a single 8, 9 or 10 girl on any street. I haven't gone to a soapy massage yet so maybe they are in there? But if you are talking Soi 6, Soi Bukhao, LK Metro, and even walking street I would say the vast majority of women are 6 and below. I've maybe seen a few 7's, but I can't really tell since everytime I think I spot a 7 I get a closer look and their complexion is just not too good so they have to be downgraded to a 6. 5. Everyone has their own scale of looks, but I would think that most guys would rate a Thai beauty pageant queen a 10 and everyone else goes down in scale from there. A 6 is fuckable I guess if I was desperate, and unfortunately I'm getting desperate. I might just overpay just to nut once at a soapy massage, and return back to Bangkok to monger once I'm done touring Pattaya. Really though in regards to monger destinations, unless you have an Asian fetish, I would rate Thailand overall well below Germany and Colombia. That's purely for mongering, if you are talking about which country is better for a regular vacation then hands down it's Thailand.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2785041]This is going to be controversial, but I've been here for 3 days already, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down. Not in regards for tourism and cheaper prices compared to Bangkok and Phuket, but I mean in regards to girls. While there is an abundance of women everywhere with plenty of bars, a go go clubs, streetwalkers, and massage places. I have to give this an average rating due to how unattractive these girls are. [/QUOTE]Sadly I agree. Though with one caveat. Some good-looking girls can be found in the Gogos. But you will be paying a premium, with no guarantee of the kind of GFE treatment I look for. My bread and butter used to be FLs at Ibar, Insomnia, 808, Lucifer, and (way back when) Red Car. And I had some memorable times with girls there. But during recent trips I found I would go nights on end without finding a doable girl (at least one that isn't already taken). I also liked Soi 6. Could find an occasional gem in the rough there. But my man Banna Boi, who I have often hit the 6 with in the past, and who was there a couple of months back, says it's just awful and not even worth it to go there anymore.
That is why I am in no hurry to get back to Pattaya. I have not been back since 2018. I have found greener pastures elsewhere (Cambodia, Indonesia). If you do see a good-looking girl. Even if it is just in the street at daytime. Be ready to pounce. It may be the only opportunity of the trip (though be nice and polite, not lewd and rude, when you do approach here).
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2785051]Sadly I agree. Though with one caveat. Some good-looking girls can be found in the Gogos. But you will be paying a premium, with no guarantee of the kind of GFE treatment I look for. My bread and butter used to be FLs at Ibar, Insomnia, 808, Lucifer, and (way back when) Red Car. And I had some memorable times with girls there. But during recent trips I found I would go nights on end without finding a doable girl (at least one that isn't already taken). I also liked Soi 6. Could find an occasional gem in the rough there. But my man Banna Boi, who I have often hit the 6 with in the past, and who was there a couple of months back, says it's just awful and not even worth it to go there anymore.
That is why I am in no hurry to get back to Pattaya. I have not been back since 2018. I have found greener pastures elsewhere (Cambodia, Indonesia). If you do see a good-looking girl. Even if it is just in the street at daytime. Be ready to pounce. It may be the only opportunity of the trip (though be nice and polite, not lewd and rude, when you do approach here).[/QUOTE]Finally broke my Pattaya cherry tonight. It was with a 30 year old Beach Road girl that quoted me 1000 baht plus 200 baht for the room. 1200 baht total seems like a fairly good deal considering I got her to do BBBJ. Her body was pretty good with no baby marks even though she had three kids. No saggy boobs, decent enough face, and pussy that was still tight, what more could I ask for? Probably a solid 7, and given how poorly things have been going for me so far in Pattaya I'm extremely happy with this.
BTW how is it that guys are having such a blast on Soi 6? I walked by there awhile ago around 9:30 PM and it seemed like a high school dance. A bunch of girls standing out in front trying to entice guys to come in, and of the guys that are sitting down drinking, they are drinking by themselves or with a buddy looking bored with no girls to entertain them. Is that how it is? Are these girls just taking your drink orders only? I went to Soi 6 earlier today and had an awful time much like those lonely guys. I saw this cute young girl sitting out front that gave me the look so I thought I would go in get a drink with her and then take her to the room. Instead she just asked me what I was having and then after grabbing me my drink went back to the front to sit. WTF is up with that? Seeing a bunch of lonely guys tonight sitting by themselves makes me think this is more common then not at Soi 6.
Regarding the below report, it mentions the Red Car club but unclear if the poster was saying it's closed or now no good. I had one of the best sex experiences of my life there several years ago with this girl who was part Singapore Chinese and part Iranian. She even spoke Farsi much to the amazement of some Iranian guys who had a bar in Arab Alley. Since I am going tomorrow, I was wondering if I should include RedCar in my itinerary. The girl BTW claimed to be just passing through.
I am not expecting much but the review below certainly has a dismal outlook on the current state of affairs there.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2785084]BTW how is it that guys are having such a blast on Soi 6? I saw this cute young girl sitting out front that gave me the look so I thought I would go in get a drink with her and then take her to the room. Instead she just asked me what I was having and then after grabbing me my drink went back to the front to sit. WTF is up with that? Seeing a bunch of lonely guys tonight sitting by themselves makes me think this is more common then not at Soi 6.[/QUOTE]Meanwhile in the Brazil thread, guys are complaining about getting mobbed by chicks. Guys don't want to go to Soi 6 because the girls don't pay them any attention and guys don't want to go to places in Brazil because the girls pay them too much attention.
[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2784176]Centaurus was a nightmare, which is unfortunate because the experience itself ended up being quite good with the girls in the room. There is one thing with the girls being aggressive, but we could not even get a drink in the damn place we were just being bombarded to the point we had to be rude with some of them. I am assuming this is because they could see a mile away that we were tourists, but Ill never set foot in that place again.[/QUOTE]
Regarding the below report, it mentions the Red Car club but unclear if the poster was saying it's closed or now no good. I had one of the best sex experiences of my life there several years ago with this girl who was part Singapore Chinese and part Iranian. She even spoke Farsi much to the amazement of some Iranian guys who had a bar in Arab Alley. Since I am going tomorrow, I was wondering if I should include RedCar in my itinerary. The girl BTW claimed to be just passing through.
I am not expecting much but the review below certainly has a dismal outlook on the current state of affairs there.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;2785109]Regarding the below report, it mentions the Red Car club but unclear if the poster was saying it's closed or now no good. I had one of the best sex experiences of my life there several years ago with this girl who was part Singapore Chinese and part Iranian. She even spoke Farsi much to the amazement of some Iranian guys who had a bar in Arab Alley. Since I am going tomorrow, I was wondering if I should include RedCar in my itinerary. The girl BTW claimed to be just passing through.
I am not expecting much but the review below certainly has a dismal outlook on the current state of affairs there.[/QUOTE]It's been a few months but during my last visit to Red Car I was the only customer in the place at 22:00. If you are on Walking Street it only takes a minute to pop in and have a look around. Hopefully you have better luck than I did. Things can change dramatically in a few months.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2785041]This is going to be controversial, but I've been here for 3 days already, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down.[/QUOTE]So you are saying Phuket / BKK got better looking ladies?
Did you visit pinup agogo?
[QUOTE=DevSagar;2784954]My doc friend has informed me that the issue or the problem is not semen deficiency. I am ejaculating means no less semen. I can eat oysters if I like them but to eat as a supplement for zinc or to put me on zinc pills is not needed. His exact words to me......[/QUOTE]Thanks for this information. Life is a continual learning experience and I am guided accordingly by posters like yourself and Tomasb.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2785041]This is going to be controversial, but I've been here for 3 days already, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down. Not in regards for tourism and cheaper prices compared to Bangkok and Phuket, but I mean in regards to girls. While there is an abundance of women everywhere with plenty of bars, a go go clubs, street walkers, and massage places. I have to give this an average rating due to how unattractive these girls are. You can have 1000 girls on one block, but if they are fat and old then really what is the true quantity of women available in Pattaya? I don't know how guys are rating girls, but I haven't seen a single 8, 9 or 10 girl on any street. I haven't gone to a soapy massage yet so maybe they are in there? But if you are talking Soi 6, Soi Bukhao, LK Metro, and even walking street I would say the vast majority of women are 6 and below. I've maybe seen a few 7's, but I can't really tell since everytime I think I spot a 7 I get a closer look and their complexion is just not too good so they have to be downgraded to a 6. 5. Everyone has their own scale of looks, but I would think that most guys would rate a Thai beauty pageant queen a 10 and everyone else goes down in scale from there. A 6 is fuckable I guess if I was desperate, and unfortunately I'm getting desperate. I might just overpay just to nut once at a soapy massage, and return back to Bangkok to monger once I'm done touring Pattaya. Really though in regards to monger destinations, unless you have an Asian fetish, I would rate Thailand overall well below Germany and Colombia. That's purely for mongering, if you are talking about which country is better for a regular vacation then hands down it's Thailand.[/QUOTE]The lack of quality when it comes to Pattaya has been a running topic for sometime now. And IMO it is true, the quality is no longer very good in Pattaya. However when you factor in costs of hotels, costs of mongering, limitless mongering options everywhere, cheap and diverse food and being by the water. Pattaya is still a great place.
I'm sure the girls are hotter in Columbia but it doesn't seem safe to me. Also, Thailand is the best combo of vacationing and mongering as personally I value vacation / tourist stuff over mongering. Of course, to each his own.
Pattaya good or bad? I'm not going to disagree with Bluat but your post would be a lot more informative if you named the BARS you went to make your conclusion. I mean if you walked in to Pin Up, Baccara, and Palace I'm sure you would have a MUCH different perspective of the quality of gogo girls than if you walked into say Living Dolls and Bliss. Also the night of the week you go to the bars makes a huge difference as well as the time of the night you visited. You are not going to get a good idea of the quality of girls at Palace or Pin Up if you go there at midnight vs going there at 9 pm. Anyone decent is barfined by midnight.
Frog Bar complex. Been wondering about this place. It just reopened when I was leaving Pattaya but it looked really nice and was rocking. I know one poster on here doesn't feel we need actual reports in the Pattaya Reports thread but I'd like to hear from someone on the ground how Frog Bar complex is doing.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2785084] I saw this cute young girl sitting out front that gave me the look so I thought I would go in get a drink with her and then take her to the room. Instead she just asked me what I was having and then after grabbing me my drink went back to the front to sit. WTF is up with that? Seeing a bunch of lonely guys tonight sitting by themselves makes me think this is more common then not at Soi 6.[/QUOTE]
Show your charm and convince her to stay by your side without having to buy her a drink. Otherwise buy her a drink or at least start asking her about going upstairs. She's there to make money not to entertain you. If she doesn't get at least her 50 baht from the drink you buy her why should she stay with you and let you feel her up and DFK her? That's not a Thailand thing it's the same for all countries in SEA. Some countries' girls are just more tolerant than others. I've had what happened to you at Soi 6 happen to me as well. I would just walk up to that girl and ask her to come back, make her laugh, or buy her a drink. Of course if you pick the fat short ugly girl she'll stay with you all afternoon in hopes that you will be her 1 barfine for the week.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2785041] unless you have an Asian fetish, I would rate Thailand overall well below Germany and Colombia.[/QUOTE]
Not sure why someone would hobby in Thailand, Jakarta, Ho Chi Minh, Phnom Penh or Manila unless they like Asians. Sure Germany has better looking white girls but anyone who has been going since the 2000s will tell you Germany is crap now compared to back then. Other issues with Germany is that it's 70 euro just to get in the door of some clubs. Girls upsell everything to COB, COF, BBBJ, BBFS, and even freakin' DFK. A session there can cost 200 euro per hour now in addition to what you paid to enter the club. Let's not forget that hotels are more expensive, you need to rent a car, and Germany is one of the dullest countries you could ever visit. I know I've been there 40+ times. On top of all that how much does an all nighter with a FKK girl cost? FKK girls squirm if you try taking a photo too. Buy a drink for a Thai girl at Soi 6 and she will let you take a video of her DFKing you.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2784945]Sensations
This place has really gone to shit. Used to be top 3 or 4 before COVID. I remember in 2018, they boasted close to 200 girls a night with 4 rotations. [/QUOTE]
I think it was more like 2015 to 2017 when it was really good. For me it wasn't great even in 2018. But you saw my face when we walked in a few months ago. I would have walked right back out if the manager wasn't so happy I came back to his bar.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2784922]Agreed, some people just need to complain for no reason.[/QUOTE]
Yep. No more reviews from me on here.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2785147]The lack of quality when it comes to Pattaya has been a running topic for sometime now. And IMO it is true, the quality is no longer very good in Pattaya. However when you factor in costs of hotels, costs of mongering, limitless mongering options everywhere, cheap and diverse food and being by the water. Pattaya is still a great place.
I'm sure the girls are hotter in Columbia but it doesn't seem safe to me. Also, Thailand is the best combo of vacationing and mongering as personally I value vacation / tourist stuff over mongering. Of course, to each his own.[/QUOTE]To me Pattaya has always been low in quality but high in quantity. I remember spending 2 hours and making multiple round of beach road trying to find a looker (as against a hooker LOL). Sometimes I would walk so much that my feet would develop blisters. Ah! Those were the days (evenings). At least there was so much quantity to choose from that I would find 2-3 girls every night. But with number of freelancers down so much of late, I wonder if it worth going to Pattaya any more.
I doubt if even 200 girls show on beach road now a days.
Please let me know if I am wrong, I don't want to be right!
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2785147]I'm sure the girls are hotter in Columbia but it doesn't seem safe to me. Also, Thailand is the best combo of vacationing and mongering as personally I value vacation / tourist stuff over mongering. Of course, to each his own.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2785204]Not sure why someone would hobby in Thailand, Jakarta, Ho Chi Minh, Phnom Penh or Manila unless they like Asians.[/QUOTE]I agree with Banana Boi, do your mongering where you like the locals. For me, it's Asia. I've never visited Columbia but I doubt I would find the Columbian girls hotter than the Thai girls. The closest I've ever come to mongering in Columbia is many trips to Tijuana where a few scattered Columbian girls make their way to work in Hong Kong club (yes, they were among the best performers). I like demure personalities, thin legs, small butts, small breasts, and delicate facial features. I won't find much of that in Columbia or any part of South America.
I spent two weeks in Cartagena this fall and have been about a dozen times through the years. It has gotten progressively worse each visit in terms of the chica quality and your personal safety. This is compounded by desperate Venezuelans who are in inundating Cartagena and other cities. In terms of safety there are many documented cases of chicas using knock out Micky type drugs and some tourists have died as a result. Look on the Medellin thread for more details.
On this last trip, I had to defend myself against five chicas who surrounded me in a well lit public area and attempted to steal my phone and wallet. They were not successful because I punched one of them in the stomach. Only then did they back off.
In terms of attractiveness, it's no contest. South Americans have a lot of big silicone enhanced butts and breasts and can't compare to Asians. Also, Cartagena and other cities don't have real go-go's to see girls dancing etc. And their prices can be outlandish.
[QUOTE=Omigawd;2785221]Pattaya always low in quality
To me Pattaya has always been low in quality but high in quantity. I remember spending 2 hours and making multiple round of beach road trying to find a looker [/QUOTE]You're not going to find a Maserati (top gogo girl at 3k baht ST + 2k BF) in a Suzuki dealership (Beach Road 500 baht). To my knowledge no one has ever come on here saying you can find lookers on Beach Road. It's for people who come to Pattaya on a strict budget or are very frugal. It's like me coming on here saying all of Pattaya is really expensive because I ended up buying 20 drinks for a top model at Palace (4k drinks + 5k LT + 2k BF +3k drinks/snacks at Hollywood) when there are 1000s of G Clubs, BJ bars, Soi 6/7/8, beer bars, massage joints where girls will go with you for 1 k baht.
[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2785120]So you are saying Phuket / BKK got better looking ladies?
Did you visit pinup agogo?[/QUOTE]Yes BKK IMO has better looking girls. I don't go into a go go bars anymore as I think they are major ripoffs so maybe my assessment isn't the best for a go go's. However when I walk around Nana Plaza in Bangkok and compare it to walking street and Soi 6 in Pattaya, hands down the girls that stand around outside are much better looking in Bangkok. Street walkers to me are better in Pattaya, but I'm not seeing a high volume of girls out there. Not sure what the real number is, but definitely less then 100 but you have to walk quite a bit. The massage parlors are the real gem to me when it comes to Bangkok. Definitely good looking girls at very reasonable prices. Pattaya makes my feet hurt because I have to walk so much to find someone doable.
I remember walking by Pin Ups on Sunday and Monday night, but I can't recall if the girls standing outside were hot. I'm fairly certain they were just average as no one really made my head turn on walking street. I probably wouldn't go in there though as they will probably fleece me for lady drinks, and charge me outrageous prices for BF and ST. Let me know if that isn't the case. If it's within reason I may go in there to do some scouting around.
As for best mongering places, I've been to Germany, Thailand, and Colombia this year and I still stand by my assessment. I don't have an Asian fetish, I just like girls of all ethnicities pretty much equally. There are some ethnicities that I'm not very attracted to, but definitely I'm into Latin, Caucasian, and Asians so I judge each area as fairly as I can. And to say girls in Latin America have big fake boobs and big boots is just ignorant. I personally prefer slim, petite and natural girls and they are in abundance in Germany and Colombia.
[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2785120]So you are saying Phuket / BKK got better looking ladies?
Did you visit pinup agogo?[/QUOTE]I've spent serious time in all 3 places. My thoughts on best lookers.
Best Gogo Bar girls and clubs goes to Pattaya, even before COVID. The sheer number of them is crazy. However. If we are talking about outside of just Gogo Bars.
Civilians girls is Bangkok. Freelancers is Bangkok including Thermae and night clubs. Soapies is Bangkok. Remember the Lords Palace? 10,000 a girl? Kapoo is Bangkok. KTV and Thaniya is Bangkok. Online and sidelines girls is Bangkok. The Pimp?
Phuket is the runt.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2785041]This is going to be controversial, but I've been here for 3 days already, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down. Not in regards for tourism and cheaper prices compared to Bangkok and Phuket, but I mean in regards to girls. While there is an abundance of women everywhere with plenty of bars, a go go clubs, street walkers, and massage places. I have to give this an average rating due to how unattractive these girls are. You can have 1000 girls on one block, but if they are fat and old then really what is the true quantity of women available in Pattaya? I don't know how guys are rating girls, but I haven't seen a single 8, 9 or 10 girl on any street. I haven't gone to a soapy massage yet so maybe they are in there? But if you are talking Soi 6, Soi Bukhao, LK Metro, and even walking street I would say the vast majority of women are 6 and below. I've maybe seen a few 7's, but I can't really tell since everytime I think I spot a 7 I get a closer look and their complexion is just not too good so they have to be downgraded to a 6. 5. Everyone has their own scale of looks, but I would think that most guys would rate a Thai beauty pageant queen a 10 and everyone else goes down in scale from there. A 6 is fuckable I guess if I was desperate, and unfortunately I'm getting desperate. I might just overpay just to nut once at a soapy massage, and return back to Bangkok to monger once I'm done touring Pattaya. Really though in regards to monger destinations, unless you have an Asian fetish, I would rate Thailand overall well below Germany and Colombia. That's purely for mongering, if you are talking about which country is better for a regular vacation then hands down it's Thailand.[/QUOTE]I heard it's still very busy and high season right now, so most of the good looking ones are probably wifed up with a tourist for a few weeks or months. Seems that you're late to the party and dealing with the leftovers. When I was there a few months ago the best looking girls were at the big gogos on LK metro and soi boomerang. Try those. The rest of Pattaya will have 6 and below. You can find a good looker in Honey 2 soapy way down second road past soi 6 but be prepared to pay a lot for it and forget long time.
What exactly are you looking for? If you are looking for long time GF, it's better to get on tinder or TF and search cities outside of pattaya and import her to you for a week or more. I met some super hot women in Chang Mai.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2785275]Yes BKK IMO has better looking girls. I don't go into a go go bars anymore as I think they are major ripoffs so maybe my assessment isn't the best for a go go's. However when I walk around Nana Plaza in Bangkok and compare it to walking street and Soi 6 in Pattaya, hands down the girls that stand around outside are much better looking in Bangkok. [/QUOTE]You must be a seasoned GoGo bar guy if you are able to judge quality from just walking around and not going in. FYI hostesses stand outside on WS, rarely dancers do unless it's a small club. Like I said before, the best GoGo bars in Nana or Cowboy would not make top 12 on Walking Street. How do I know? I saw Indians being allowed into Rainbow Bars last night.
[QUOTE=Vector313;2785326]I heard it's still very busy and high season right now, so most of the good looking ones are probably wifed up with a tourist for a few weeks or months. Seems that you're late to the party and dealing with the leftovers. When I was there a few months ago the best looking girls were at the big gogos on LK metro and soi boomerang. Try those. The rest of Pattaya will have 6 and below. You can find a good looker in Honey 2 soapy way down second road past soi 6 but be prepared to pay a lot for it and forget long time.
What exactly are you looking for? If you are looking for long time GF, it's better to get on tinder or TF and search cities outside of pattaya and import her to you for a week or more. I met some super hot women in Chang Mai.[/QUOTE]Definitely not looking to import something to wine and dine. Just whatever is here is what I'll take. I'm a variety type of person. Short term, hit and quit it is all I want. I could overpay, but I hate doing so. I've seen so many mongering places just destroyed due to over tourism, and I rather not add to the problem. Every city is no longer as good as it use to be so I can't compare locations to the past anymore. Now I can only compare each place to their contemporaries.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2785354]Definitely not looking to import something to wine and dine. Just whatever is here is what I'll take. I'm a variety type of person. Short term, hit and quit it is all I want. I could overpay, but I hate doing so. I've seen so many mongering places just destroyed due to over tourism, and I rather not add to the problem. Every city is no longer as good as it use to be so I can't compare locations to the past anymore. Now I can only compare each place to their contemporaries.[/QUOTE]I hear you and agree that places aren't what they used to be. But it's not over tourism that did it. It's that the world in general is changing. The economy is motivating mongers to save money by finding gfs and sugar babies than to be butterflies. It's actually less expensive these days to to have 2 or 3 regulars than to have a lot of variety. So that's less customers for girls which motivates them to not work the streets anymore and settle down as well. It's more profitable for them to have 1 or 2 sugar daddies and stay home or even more profitable to just get pregnant by the right guy. I hate to tell you this, but the mongering game itself is falling out of fashion for a combination of reasons. So might as well just adjust your expectations and try to close your eyes and enjoy the mid level and low level quality faces and try to find the body types that you like. As the saying goes, you may not be able to get a 10 but you can fuck five 2's.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2785338]You must be a seasoned GoGo bar guy if you are able to judge quality from just walking around and not going in. FYI hostesses stand outside on WS, rarely dancers do unless it's a small club. Like I said before, the best GoGo bars in Nana or Cowboy would not make top 12 on Walking Street. How do I know? I saw Indians being allowed into Rainbow Bars last night.[/QUOTE]Oh No Indians. LOL. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=Vector313;2785372]I hear you and agree that places aren't what they used to be. But it's not over tourism that did it. It's that the world in general is changing. The economy is motivating mongers to save money by finding gfs and sugar babies than to be butterflies. It's actually less expensive these days to to have 2 or 3 regulars than to have a lot of variety. So that's less customers for girls which motivates them to not work the streets anymore and settle down as well. It's more profitable for them to have 1 or 2 sugar daddies and stay home or even more profitable to just get pregnant by the right guy. I hate to tell you this, but the mongering game itself is falling out of fashion for a combination of reasons. So might as well just adjust your expectations and try to close your eyes and enjoy the mid level and low level quality faces and try to find the body types that you like. As the saying goes, you may not be able to get a 10 but you can fuck five 2's.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't go that far. Europe and South America still have pretty strong lineups with fresh new faces everyday. Thailand has it's own share as well. It's just the prices have inflated in certain areas with too many tourist. For example in Colombia Parque Lleras I could easily find hot chicks for 150 k about 3 years ago. Now I can't find one for less then 300 k with reduced service! Too many over paying tourist there now. So now I move on to other avenues in Medellin that the tourist use less of therefore prices and services are still good. Same with Germany, just got to go to the right clubs which in general are places less frequented by tourist.
Now is High Season, when the 2 Week Millionaires come, fall in love with bargirls, and take them off the market for a month or two. Don't expect top tier ladies to be awaiting you in Pattaya now, come back in four months.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2785471]Same with Germany, just got to go to the right clubs which in general are places less frequented by tourist.[/QUOTE]Which clubs are you referring to?
[QUOTE=Bluat;2785275]Yes BKK IMO has better looking girls. I don't go into a go go bars anymore as I think they are major ripoffs so maybe my assessment isn't the best for a go go's. However when I walk around Nana Plaza in Bangkok and compare it to walking street and Soi 6 in Pattaya, hands down the girls that stand around outside are much better looking in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]It's FREE to walk in! I've never gone with any BKK BJ bar girls yet I keep walking by. It's FREE! Who knows one day I may find the girl of my dreams working in one of those bars. Rookie mistake judging bars based on the number of girls you see on the street. It's like those guys here who make their judgment of how good Thailand is by watching Youtube videos. I guess I was the same. Before I came to Thailand for the first time I used to see those horrid photos in the Photo Gallery forum and said I ain't doing any of those girls!
Not really fair to compare girls who work at Nana vs Soi 6. Those are 2 very different rate levels. It's like comparing Thermae girls to BJ Bar girls.
Just my 2 cents!
Like most topic that comes around goes around, like prices, cheap charlie stuff reading the biggest problems when it comes to looks? Many say it but don't really believe it is human nature or as we get older we all start to do it. We say we understand but the next word out of our mouth is the same easier said than done as people say!
What we all say I believe " Looks is in the eye of the beholder, another mans trash is another mans treasure ".
The biggest problem is people putting a number after the object. I can't find 9,10, they are 1,2,3, that is the problem? We forget we all have standards looking and being are two different things I've been with guys at places who like them slims, some like big tits some don't, then many like myself start with the feet, legs up, to the ass, when it comes to face if something attracts me then I start to read their face they could be dark light skin it doesn't matter I start to analyze their body language facial expression that is a start. Too many just get me a young trophy to fuck a 9. 10. Incorporate looks only that to me is an ingredient for disaster.
Sure if I can get beauty and she fucks like a rabbit and ticks all the boxes including her personality that would be just great but after all the years here good luck with that! The best one I have in the sack has been a showgirl with saggy tits, an older GC who work her butt off for me in more ways than one, an older massage girl who is appreciative when a guy wants to sponsor her and take her away from the business stops working in the business for good and dedicates herself to the sponsor. These cases are rare really rare from my experience. I know this massage girl on Soi Honey, and for 10 years now we are friends and keep in touch she will never be more than that but we do get together from day one I knew she was a super start although older pre-covid clear a good 200,000 baht a month without a sponsor she lives now with her daughter a Soi down from me just purchased a 6.5 million baht estate. Looks average, and the leg is a bit crook but she is a rock star, and from customers who come when she is free a great companion on trips. She is by far a 10 but she knows customer service!
Take the number label away shut down your eyes to focus on one thing slow down when walking down places like Soi 6, as noted even when you are cut for the time it isn't going to get better if you rush through the process slow down, and let the game come to you if it doesn't no one is ever going to repeat their best experience anywhere nor is your dream standing on one corner of a Soi.
Whenever the opportunity arises I go to Bangkok, the place is larger there are more options even as noted better looking but as noted who decide it, I've sat in some places and friend says she is a beauty a 10. I look and say it's okay We are different why put a number on your trip that's the problem as I see it.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2785574] I've sat in some places and friend says she is a beauty a 10. I look say its okay We are different why put a number on your trip that's the problem as I see it.[/QUOTE]I was on a very exclusive private board with around 50 members. There was one guy on the board who had a totally different numbering system for looks than the rest of us. He said every girl starts at a 7 even if she has no teeth! Half his girls are 9+ and 10's. For me a 7 is a girl I may buy a drink for if she's dirty but likely wouldn't go with unless she was 1000 baht. I have never seen a 9+ or 10 in Thailand but I have in Vietnam and Jakarta. Haven't seen a 10 since FKK and even that was back in 2010 or so.
I don't care what a person's number is. Like you said we all have different scales and what we think is good looking. What I am opposed to are guys who sit at home on YouTube or say there are no nice girls when they NEVER walk into the bar, basing their rating on who is standing outside. If this were the case, the Bachelor in LK should have had the best lineup in Pattaya since imo their Hostess girl was the best looking one. Also, I never see girls standing outside of Booze Lounge in the Darkside yet imo that is the only bar on the Darkside that has young pretty girls (small sample size). Guys on here would report back that Booze wasn't busy cause no girls were standing outisde.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2785041]I've been here for three days, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down. I have to give this an average rating due to how unattractive these girls are. You can have 1,000 girls on one block, but if they are fat and old then really what is the true quantity of women available in Pattaya? I'm getting desperate. I might just overpay just to nut once at a soapy massage, and return back to Bangkok to monger. In regards to monger destinations, unless you have an Asian fetish, I would rate Thailand overall well below Germany and Colombia.[/QUOTE]I would be interested in some "top down analysis" from the Old Pattaya Hands on this.
What big picture factors are keeping the better looking girls out of circulation in Pattaya? Has high season ended early this year? Are the big spending, easy-to-please guys from East Asia staying away? Or perhaps the European punters have finally thrown in the towel? Have the hotties found a way to earn without hooking up with the naughty boys? Has the Thai economy gone into overdrive during China's COVID lockdown, creating lots of good jobs at high wages?
Or maybe the girls have lost touch with what the naughty boys want to see. Just my opinion, but the "Pattaya Look" favored by the girls is well and truly counter-productive. They have fooled themselves into thinking it's OK to gain weight, provided they get a ridiculous boob job or deface their skin with mural-sized tattoos. I know. I know. They wouldn't look that way unless they were making some kind of money. In which case we have nobody but ourselves to blame for spend money of such unattractive specimens.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2785580]I was on a very exclusive private board with around 50 members. There was one guy on the board who had a totally different numbering system for looks than the rest of us. He said every girl starts at a 7 even if she has no teeth! Half his girls are 9+ and 10's. For me a 7 is a girl I may buy a drink for if she's dirty but likely wouldn't go with unless she was 1000 baht. I have never seen a 9+ or 10 in Thailand but I have in Vietnam and Jakarta. Haven't seen a 10 since FKK and even that was back in 2010 or so.
I don't care what a person's number is. Like you said we all have different scales and what we think is good looking. What I am opposed to are guys who sit at home on YouTube or say there are no nice girls when they NEVER walk into the bar, basing their rating on who is standing outside. If this were the case, the Bachelor in LK should have had the best lineup in Pattaya since imo their Hostess girl was the best looking one. Also, I never see girls standing outside of Booze Lounge in the Darkside yet imo that is the only bar on the Darkside that has young pretty girls (small sample size). Guys on here would report back that Booze wasn't busy cause no girls were standing outisde.[/QUOTE]I think those here that put numbers are he ones having the most problems. They come here all this way based on someone's word or story. I'll will be the first one to tell you I check YouTube once I see the guy majority I don't pay attention what I check is their video as to where they are scanning see maybe a place they scan quickly I see something sitting or standing outside that interest me. Many times I see like a massage in the background then I check it out. I've had a few jackpots. Many of the YouTube are pushing for a person or group to drum up business I know the guys and their group.
For example there are a half dozen guys who live here friends with this group for example Pin up, nice place, but right after they open after Covid these guys were all over the board pushing it as it was exclusive that if your aren't able to buy thousand of baht of drinks each night pay the BF 2500, pay girls 5000-10,000 place wasn't for you. To me many of the young girl some raved about if I was using a number system would even register a 7!
Funny. When it came to price right after it opened it wasn't the Asian driving up prices this time it is the farangs, this group was successful in doing so because Asian wouldn't even here yet. Just before Christmas I was down at Bacarra, sitting behind a girl I knew which just a month earlier paid 1200 for BF and 2000ST, she got guy 5000 LT, until 6 am, paid upfront when she went to change was like a kid in a candy store.
Booze lounge yes you won't find girls sitting outside GC, on the Darkside if they are young generally inexperience I still remember one on Dao bar her Aunt told me just off the farm in room that pussy stunk even after kamagra the little guy would respond.
Has anyone said a place has hot girls because of a Hot Hello girl?
I missed it. Sorry.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2785580]I was on a very exclusive private board with around 50 members. There was one guy on the board who had a totally different numbering system for looks than the rest of us. He said every girl starts at a 7 even if she has no teeth! Half his girls are 9+ and 10's. For me a 7 is a girl I may buy a drink for if she's dirty but likely wouldn't go with unless she was 1000 baht. I have never seen a 9+ or 10 in Thailand but I have in Vietnam and Jakarta. Haven't seen a 10 since FKK and even that was back in 2010 or so.
I don't care what a person's number is. Like you said we all have different scales and what we think is good looking. What I am opposed to are guys who sit at home on YouTube or say there are no nice girls when they NEVER walk into the bar, basing their rating on who is standing outside. If this were the case, the Bachelor in LK should have had the best lineup in Pattaya since imo their Hostess girl was the best looking one. Also, I never see girls standing outside of Booze Lounge in the Darkside yet imo that is the only bar on the Darkside that has young pretty girls (small sample size). Guys on here would report back that Booze wasn't busy cause no girls were standing outisde.[/QUOTE]I think those here that put numbers are he ones having the most problems. They come here all this way based on someone's word or story. I'll will be the first one to tell you I check YouTube once I see the guy majority I don't pay attention what I check is their video as to where they are scanning see maybe a place they scan quickly I see something sitting or standing outside that interest me. Many times I see like a massage in the background then I check it out. I've had a few jackpots. Many of the YouTube are pushing for a person or group to drum up business I know the guys and their group.
For example there are a half dozen guys who live here friends with this group for example Pin up, nice place, but right after they open after Covid these guys were all over the board pushing it as it was exclusive that if your aren't able to buy thousand of baht of drinks each night pay the BF 2500, pay girls 5000-10,000 place wasn't for you. To me many of the young girl some raved about if I was using a number system would even register a 7!
Funny. When it came to price right after it opened it wasn't the Asian driving up prices this time it is the farangs, this group was successful in doing so because Asian wouldn't even here yet. Just before Christmas I was down at Bacarra, sitting behind a girl I knew which just a month earlier paid 1200 for BF and 2000ST, she got guy 5000 LT, until 6 am, paid upfront when she went to change was like a kid in a candy store.
Booze lounge yes you won't find girls sitting outside GC, on the Darkside if they are young generally inexperience I still remember one on Dao bar her Aunt told me just off the farm in room that pussy stunk even after kamagra the little guy would respond.
[QUOTE=DevSagar;2784684]Got matched with another chick on a dating app. She stayed around 40/50 kms from Pattaya. Her location to my location. Very pretty chick. We started chatting on Friday morning and in late evening she pinged me with a question- What are your plans for tonight, want to hang out? I said yes and she confirmed that she will be over to my hotel by around 10.30 PM. I was waiting for her to give me her price but she did not quote anything. I had my doubt that she will bail on me. She came at around 11. I went down to receive her and check her in property and found her parking her own car, Nissan. I said immediately, rich lady. She said she likes driving and she herself drove this car for 9 hours, her hometown from where she stays now. I had bought a bottle of JD honey as Monday chick wanted but we did not drink as just fucked and slept off, so had a sealed bottle. I Had a drink in warm water with her and she on the rocks. Tried kissing her, she said wait; let's go out. I said WTF have I got myself into. She could see the frown on my face and slightly lipped kiss me but no DFK. We went out for 2 hours at a beach road bar and had a few drinks of whiskey. She got a bit tipsy and came back to room at 2. 30 am. During the conversation, she clarified that first both of us will have shower and then action, as she's comfortable with DFK post that not prior. She stays alone in a condo, works in a company and since it was Friday night, she wanted to go out. Otherwise is home bound. I still was in 2 minds on the price front. No hints as yet.
Guys, I would only like to describe her as a very beautiful white skin 31 year old, perfect slim and trim body with natural big boobs with perfect nipples on them. The best girl of my 15 day 2 trips to Thailand in 45 days. I do not have any complaints on any part of my meet with her post the shower. She simply satisfied me with my DFK complaint as we were lip locked and tongue tied for the entire time till she made me happy with CIM. She has no kid, not married but the pussy was loose. Shared her story as do not believe in the institution of marriage, hates her mother and loves her father. We slept at 5 am and I woke up to check on my office work at 7 am. At around 9 am, woke her up and offered her to have her breakfast with me but she refused as eats only one time, preferably lunch. I was expecting her to at least give me a figure but it was not coming. She got ready to leave and we both got down together to see her off in her car. I asked her in elevator, she said give whatever you feel comfortable with. I said please let me know your expectations. She said 4 K, I said can you please take 3 K, she said I told you give me whatever you comfortable with. I gave her 3500 baht in the elevator and she did not check and silently put it in her purse, could have saved 500 but was super happy to have connected with her. She also advised me to stay in an apartment and not take hotel as it's pricy. I'the save money, nice chick. She also said that I could come over to her condo next time for a day and stay but I am not keen on that. I asked her number, she said lets remain connected on bumble. She'll give if she has to but later. I asked her ID before she got into her car and she handed it over to me. I saw that she was July 1992 born. Pro or non pro, I don't care. I would love to see her again whenever I am back in Thailand. Sincerely hope and pray, either her number or line ID she shares later and do not unmatch me.
Saturday, I simply did club hopping as Sunday morning had a flight to catch back to hometown. Will share my Saturday journey as well.
Regards.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a nice experience. From your report it does however sound like you needlessly pushed money on her. Something might be lost between the lines here, but to me it sounds like she was just a normal girl who wanted to hook up with someone and you clicked her buttons. Outside of bars, most girls in Thailand are just normal girls, not hos, and I would not have pushed any money on her.
From my experience, when a dating-app girl does not want to give me her number after sex it's because she has someone else and plans to delete the dating app from her phone when her significant other arrives back in Thailand, to avoid problematic looking messages or calls.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2785559]It's FREE to walk in! I've never gone with any BKK BJ bar girls yet I keep walking by. It's FREE! Who knows one day I may find the girl of my dreams working in one of those bars. Rookie mistake judging bars based on the number of girls you see on the street. It's like those guys here who make their judgment of how good Thailand is by watching Youtube videos. I guess I was the same. Before I came to Thailand for the first time I used to see those horrid photos in the Photo Gallery forum and said I ain't doing any of those girls!
Not really fair to compare girls who work at Nana vs Soi 6. Those are 2 very different rate levels. It's like comparing Thermae girls to BJ Bar girls.[/QUOTE]Isn't Nana cheaper then Walking Street? That's kind of the point of the comparison to show higher quality at a lower cost.
Although to be fair there are some 7's I've seen on Walking Street last night. I'll walk by again and maybe go into one of the a go go's, but those places really aren't my thing. Too pushy on way over priced drinks.
I saw some gems last night as well on Beach Road. I think I saw an 8. She looked like one of those cute J-Pop girls. Nice slim figure, white skin and cute face. Unfortunately a guy was on her quick so I couldn't go with her.
As a frame of reference for Asian girls a 10 to me is an Asian beauty queen like this year's miss Thailand. 9's are like the Kpop idols, 8's aren't as pretty to be a model, idol or actress but still would be one of the prettiest girls in school. 7's are your girl next door that are cute with nice figures still +/-5 pounds. 6's are at the upper limit of my weight limit and looks. 5's are over the hill or just overweight. I won't touch a 5. This is my points of reference so if someone reads my reviews can now understand what I'm looking for. For those that see my 6's and 5's as 8's and 9's then you'll be in heaven here.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2785580]I was on a very exclusive private board with around 50 members. There was one guy on the board who had a totally different numbering system for looks than the rest of us. He said every girl starts at a 7 even if she has no teeth! Half his girls are 9+ and 10's. For me a 7 is a girl I may buy a drink for if she's dirty but likely wouldn't go with unless she was 1000 baht. I have never seen a 9+ or 10 in Thailand but I have in Vietnam and Jakarta. Haven't seen a 10 since FKK and even that was back in 2010 or so.
I don't care what a person's number is. Like you said we all have different scales and what we think is good looking. What I am opposed to are guys who sit at home on YouTube or say there are no nice girls when they NEVER walk into the bar, basing their rating on who is standing outside. If this were the case, the Bachelor in LK should have had the best lineup in Pattaya since imo their Hostess girl was the best looking one. Also, I never see girls standing outside of Booze Lounge in the Darkside yet imo that is the only bar on the Darkside that has young pretty girls (small sample size). Guys on here would report back that Booze wasn't busy cause no girls were standing outisde.[/QUOTE]I think those here that put numbers are he ones having the most problems. They come here all this way based on someone's word or story. I'll will be the first one to tell you I check YouTube once I see the guy majority I don't pay attention what I check is their video as to where they are scanning see maybe a place they scan quickly I see something sitting or standing outside that interest me. Many times I see like a massage in the background then I check it out. I've had a few jackpots. Many of the YouTube are pushing for a person or group to drum up business I know the guys and their group.
For example there are a half dozen guys who live here friends with this group for example Pin up, nice place, but right after they open after Covid these guys were all over the board pushing it as it was exclusive that if your aren't able to buy thousand of baht of drinks each night pay the BF 2500, pay girls 5000-10,000 place wasn't for you. To me many of the young girl some raved about if I was using a number system would even register a 7!
Funny. When it came to price right after it opened it wasn't the Asian driving up prices this time it is the farangs, this group was successful in doing so because Asian wouldn't even here yet. Just before Christmas I was down at Bacarra, sitting behind a girl I knew which just a month earlier paid 1200 for BF and 2000ST, she got guy 5000 LT, until 6 am, paid upfront when she went to change was like a kid in a candy store.
Booze lounge yes you won't find girls sitting outside GC, on the Darkside if they are young generally inexperience I still remember one on Dao bar her Aunt told me just off the farm in room that pussy stunk even after kamagra the little guy would respond.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2785559] I used to see those horrid photos in the Photo Gallery forum and said I ain't doing any of those girls!
[/QUOTE]555. I remember that one dude that kept posting artsy nudie pics of his really skanky 40-ish GF. Almost scared me away from going to Thailand at all!
In the end, you just gotta go and see for yourself. I am mulling over a trip to Sosua (DR) now and trying to sort through the conflicting accounts of the place. In the end, I will probably just bite the bullet and go.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2785698]Isn't Nana cheaper then Walking Street? That's kind of the point of the comparison to show higher quality at a lower cost.[/QUOTE]Maybe ElMexicant can step in here and answer this. Barfines in Bangkok have always been cheaper than Pattaya for many years. Even by early 2016 Sensations was 2000 BF before midnight. Prices to the girls are generally the same since 2015 (3k ST, 5k LT). I assume Nana ladyboys ask for much less. For me I always felt drinks for myself and lady drinks are more costly in BKK but this varies widely on which gogo bar you go to.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2785698]I'll walk by again and maybe go into one of the a go go's, but those places really aren't my thing. Too pushy on way over priced drinks.[/QUOTE]If by tonight you mean Friday night go early it'll be a zoo. Maybe 8:30 pm to either Palace, Baccara, or Pin Up. I'm not sure what you mean by pushy. Have never had a single Pattaya gogo bar ask me to buy another drink after I bought my initial drink. In a place like Crazy House in BKK yes waitresses and mamasans are extremely pushy. If you mean pushy girls that all depends on an individual's ability to say no to a girl. Same applies to Germany FKK clubs. Yes at times an ugly won't leave you alone so I'm either firm with her or I grab the girl I'm interested in and talk to her absolutely ignoring ugmo.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2785708]555. I remember that one dude that kept posting artsy nudie pics of his really skanky 40-ish GF. Almost scared me away from going to Thailand at all!
In the end, you just gotta go and see for yourself. I am mulling over a trip to Sosua (DR) now and trying to sort through the conflicting accounts of the place. In the end, I will probably just bite the bullet and go.[/QUOTE]You know I am the first one to tell people to go see for themselves, but Sosua is some shit that you do not need to see for yourself! The last 13 years it has been pure shit. Before that it was paradise. I would say it is one place that you can look at youtube videos and know what you are getting into.
I suggest you start with this one, which is pretty much par for the course:
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hkHRyg7UrZo[/URL]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2785508]Now is High Season, when the 2 Week Millionaires come, fall in love with bargirls, and take them off the market for a month or two. Don't expect top tier ladies to be awaiting you in Pattaya now, come back in four months.[/QUOTE]I'm curious, how do the 2 week millionaires take bargirls off the market for a month or two?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2785738]I'm curious, how do the 2 week millionaires take bargirls off the market for a month or two?[/QUOTE]2 weeks at a time. LOL.
Beauty is not in the eye of the beholder. Outlier views do exist.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1woCIX8p2_w[/URL]
Just look at the 3 Lovlies on the Thumbnail.
If you were to wager who would win a beauty contest who would you choose.
If they were horses what would be your Trifecta bet.
Ill start. Beauty winner is one on Left.
Trifecta is Winner of Beauty, 2nd is middle, bring up the rear is the one on right.
P.S. Scales are useful only if accompanied by Evidence. Aka as photo. Better live you tube clip.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2785718]I suggest you start with this one, which is pretty much par for the course:
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hkHRyg7UrZo[/URL][/QUOTE]Looks like a good time by all!
See you in Medellin, Uncle V!
Nopes, money wasn't pushed. I had put in a word during the date that I did not have a gift and do wish to give her something for an amazing time spent. Hence, handed over her the amount. Plus, did not want to lose the chick wherein she could think of being a cheap charlie or a free loaded which I am not either ways.
We are in touch on whatsapp, she did share her number post my return to my hometown. As a hobby, she makes those Thai scarves and I told her to make 10 for me and I'd transfer the money. Not greedy at all, she said she has a template at home but here she will buy one for making those scarves and it would cost me 100/120 baht only which is dirt cheap.
No, my report is crystal clear. She doesn't have a boyfriend and I do see her status of her swimming in condo pools and living a normal life in her apartment.
Regards.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2785685]Sounds like a nice experience. From your report it does however sound like you needlessly pushed money on her. Something might be lost between the lines here, but to me it sounds like she was just a normal girl who wanted to hook up with someone and you clicked her buttons. Outside of bars, most girls in Thailand are just normal girls, not hos, and I would not have pushed any money on her.
From my experience, when a dating-app girl does not want to give me her number after sex it's because she has someone else and plans to delete the dating app from her phone when her significant other arrives back in Thailand, to avoid problematic looking messages or calls.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Turgid;2785738]I'm curious, how do the 2 week millionaires take bargirls off the market for a month or two?[/QUOTE]The 2 week millionaires promise to support ladies if they stop working bar and go back to the village to wait for them. It generally only takes a month or so for the 2 week guy to suffer buyer's regret and stop sending money.
In some cases, the lady won't go back to the village, she will stay in Pattaya with her Thai boyfriend, and use the sponsor's money for drinking. The sponsor will call her, which is very irritating for the lady, as she has to pretend to be in the village.
I know one lady who got 200,000 baht to go back to the village. She didn't go. The next guy promised her 70,000 baht a year, but continually, so then she went. She stayed in the village for 7 years, only coming to Pattaya to see her sponsor for 2 weeks every year. The 7th year, she stuck around in Pattaya after the sponsor went home, met another guy, got knocked up, and spit out a kid. That ended the sponsorship.
The point is that the 2 week millionaires take ladies off the market for some period after Christmas holiday.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2785879]Looks like a good time by all!
See you in Medellin, Uncle V![/QUOTE]Thanks, Mr. E. Fuck me. This would be the last thing I need. Maybe I need to rethink my itinerary and BB suggested.
[QUOTE=ChaChumplin;2785817]Beauty is not in the eye of the beholder. Outlier views do exist.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1woCIX8p2_w[/URL]
clip.[/QUOTE]For the sake of calibrating the numeric scales, I'd say that most of the girls here are 5's. I only find 2 attractive. The girl at 6 marks is like a 6. 5 to 7. And the European (I'm guessing Russian) girl at the end of the video is cute in a girl-next-door kind of way (maybe give her a 6). I wouldn't be very enthusiastic about flying halfway across the world to get together with these kinds of girls.
This is all very subjective.
[QUOTE=ChaChumplin;2785817]Beauty is not in the eye of the beholder. Outlier views do exist.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1woCIX8p2_w[/URL]
Just look at the 3 Lovlies on the Thumbnail.
If you were to wager who would win a beauty contest who would you choose.
If they were horses what would be your Trifecta bet.
Ill start. Beauty winner is one on Left.
Trifecta is Winner of Beauty, 2nd is middle, bring up the rear is the one on right.
P.S. Scales are useful only if accompanied by Evidence. Aka as photo. Better live you tube clip.[/QUOTE]The YouTube video is a good example of how not to talk to bargirls. Most Thai ladies in Pattaya cannot understand anything but very basic English. You really need to slow down how you speak, and not use a lot of words. As an example, instead of saying: "what do you think of the room? Try saying "room good, not good?
If your English speech patterns can mirror Thai construction, so much the better. It won't matter much for ST or a one nighter, but the ladies appreciate it if their long time customer makes it easier for them to understanding WTF he is saying.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2785970]For the sake of calibrating the numeric scales, I'd say that most of the girls here are 5's. I only find 2 attractive. The girl at 6 marks is like a 6. 5 to 7. And the European (I'm guessing Russian) girl at the end of the video is cute in a girl-next-door kind of way (maybe give her a 6). I wouldn't be very enthusiastic about flying halfway across the world to get together with these kinds of girls.
This is all very subjective.[/QUOTE]I agree with your assessment and it's similar to my own taste apparently. The best looking girl was the one in the tan colored dress around the 5:30 mark. I would probably give her a 7. The rest are 6 and below. The Russian chick might be a 6, but I can't really see her body so I can't say.
Today was finally the day of success! I finally hit it with a solid 8 and definitely the best looking girl I've fucked in Asia. Slim, early 20's, and mixed with European blood. Decent enough service with some LFK and BBBJ. Not too bad of a price either at 2000 baht for an hour especially when I compare it to other chicks of similar quality. In Bangkok I fucked a similar type of girl that was half Italian / Thai and she was asking for 3 k from Asian customers and 5 k from Westerners. The only girl I would say that I've seen in Pattaya that was on par with this girl was at Iron Club on Walking Street. Not sure how much that girl at Iron Club is asking for, but I imagine a BF, lady drink and my drink would be at least 1 k already. Definitely a gorgeous girl that could probably command at least 3 K on walking street. Anyone know what the going rate is for some of the hotter girls on Walking Street? I'm hearing things like 3 k and 5 k, but also hearing stuff like dealing them down to 1. 5 k. What is the actual truth?
Lots of 7's everywhere on walking street both yesterday and today. On Soi 6 mainly 6's and below, but there are 7's sprinkled around. I also went to Jomtien today to check out Kit Cat and Passions. Kit Cat is a waste of time with few girls that were 6 and below. At least the beer there was cheap as a Singha only cost me 95 baht. Passions was a sausage fest. Just wall to wall guys, with the ratio probably 1 girl for every 3 guy I think. And the girls were only OK. Some had good bodies, but weren't very pretty or much older. And some of the younger and prettier ones had a little bit too much weight on them. I think I might have seen one younger girl wearing a red dress that I would say was a solid 7, but I couldn't really tell as it was quit dim in that club.
I feel like I've been everywhere except the soapy massage places. I guess I'll give those a try tomorrow, but to be honest I think I'm done looking. I have the mixed girl's whatsapp so I'll just be hitting that while I'm here in Pattaya rather then continue to waste my time walking all over the damn place trying to find a diamond in the rough. Seriously this place is full of nothing but girls, but it's so damn hard to find what I'm looking for in regards to looks and price.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2785915]The 2 week millionaires promise to support ladies if they stop working bar and go back to the village to wait for them. It generally only takes a month or so for the 2 week guy to suffer buyer's regret and stop sending money[/QUOTE]I was reading on facebook last night. A guy that used to own a bar said some guy paid a two week barfine for a chick to go back home. He said there was no need to because the girl could have freely gone whenever she wanted. As soon as the guy got into the taxi to go to the airport she was back behind the bar. The owner said she did not need to, so when went and worked at the bar across the street.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2785879]Looks like a good time by all!
See you in Medellin, Uncle V![/QUOTE]I see a lot of 5's and 6's in the video, certainly no 8's or 9's. I'm thinking about Medellin in March but I've read Covid is a problem now and that numerous flights out of Medellin have been cancelled. Good to hear from Uncle V again.
[QUOTE=DevSagar;2785886]Nopes, money wasn't pushed. I had put in a word during the date that I did not have a gift and do wish to give her something for an amazing time spent. Hence, handed over her the amount. Plus, did not want to lose the chick wherein she could think of being a cheap charlie or a free loaded which I am not either ways.
We are in touch on whatsapp, she did share her number post my return to my hometown. As a hobby, she makes those Thai scarves and I told her to make 10 for me and I'd transfer the money. Not greedy at all, she said she has a template at home but here she will buy one for making those scarves and it would cost me 100/120 baht only which is dirt cheap.
No, my report is crystal clear. She doesn't have a boyfriend and I do see her status of her swimming in condo pools and living a normal life in her apartment.
Regards.[/QUOTE]Can you expand on your use of dating apps? Specifically, which ones worked well for dating type of hookups? I only used TF when I was there which I didn't find useful for dating. Perhaps Bumble and Tinder are better for that?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2786022]The YouTube video is a good example of how not to talk to bargirls. Most Thai ladies in Pattaya cannot understand anything but very basic English. You really need to slow down how you speak, and not use a lot of words. As an example, instead of saying: "what do you think of the room? Try saying "room good, not good?
If your English speech patterns can mirror Thai construction, so much the better. It won't matter much for ST or a one nighter, but the ladies appreciate it if their long time customer makes it easier for them to understanding WTF he is saying.[/QUOTE]I didn't and will not watch the video.
People are supposed to rate girls on thumbnail. Just a gauge to sense what people here find attractive.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2786066]I was reading on facebook last night. A guy that used to own a bar said some guy paid a two week barfine for a chick to go back home. He said there was no need to because the girl could have freely gone whenever she wanted. As soon as the guy got into the taxi to go to the airport she was back behind the bar. The owner said she did not need to, so when went and worked at the bar across the street.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the bottom line is if you send money to a bargirl when you are in your home country, nothing good will come of it.
My policy is not to fuck bargirls if they have a foreign boyfriend, but if they have a sucker who sends them money for nothing, no problem.
A typical Pattaya story: a bargirl has been working Pattaya bars for years with hundreds of Farang customers. Of course, she has a Thai husband, but he doesn't care what she does with Farangs.
Two weeks ago, she switched to a Thai bar. She already has a new Thai boyfriend, one of her customers. Her husband is going to be very angry, very soon.
[QUOTE=ChaChumplin;2786114]I didn't and will not watch the video.
People are supposed to rate girls on thumbnail. Just a gauge to sense what people here find attractive.[/QUOTE]Maybe just post the picture of the thumbnail? When I click the link it just takes me to the video so I don't see any thumbnail.
Tinder and Bumble are best, Hinge was total failure. Hinge had a lot of old age profiles around 40 ish.
Believe you me, I have had 40 matches on tinder in 45 days in Pattaya. I fucked 2 girls out of those 40. Man, still miss the 1st one. Perfect girl friend experience she gave in 1500 baht for one hour. 33 year old white, tall, thai busty chick. I pushed her away to go. Tinder has more of pros or chicks who would straight away quote 2 K short time, some of them are really beautiful and sexy. 2 chicks I gave a counter offer of 1. 5 k and they said no. I did not push, pursue, request again or bargain and moved on as Pattaya has a lot of pussy for everyone at various price points. But they were really beautiful, young, slender and sexy chicks.
Bumble has more of non pros. I am connected to a Moroccon chick in Bangkok, pure white, beautiful and wow figure. A few on Bumble are young girls working their day time shifts, a few divorced sexy moms and a few around 28 to 30 year old girls looking for fun. I have yet to explore the dating route in Bangkok of the girls matched.
I have put my all genuine pictures on both apps, absolutely original profile of what I do for work and what I am looking for. Last year, been twice to Vietnam, once to Nepal and once to Thailand so have a lot of travel stories and pics, recent ones which I do share with the chicks. My success rate in Bumble is good even in my home country but tinder is a dud here.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2786104]Can you expand on your use of dating apps? Specifically, which ones worked well for dating type of hookups? I only used TF when I was there which I didn't find useful for dating. Perhaps Bumble and Tinder are better for that?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Allover;2786079]I see a lot of 5's and 6's in the video, certainly no 8's or 9's. I'm thinking about Medellin in March but I've read Covid is a problem now and that numerous flights out of Medellin have been cancelled. Good to hear from Uncle V again.[/QUOTE]Where did you get the info about flights out of Medellin have been canceled? Nothing could be further from the truth. During the entire Covid period, Medellin was closed to visitors for a couple of months only, from March to December 2020.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2786212]Maybe just post the picture of the thumbnail? When I click the link it just takes me to the video so I don't see any thumbnail.[/QUOTE]Yes, that would be better if the idea is we are only supposed to rate the thumbnails.
I had to click around until three thumbnails came up. They were of three of the 6-7 girls in the 10 minute video. In my judgement only the middle girl's thumbnail fairly accurately depicts the way she comes across in the video. The other two thumbnails are so heavily shopped or doctored they barely resemble how those two girls look in the video.
Strange test. Not sure what it was meant to show. Nobody is going to meet anyone who looks like the first and third thumbnails really. Only the second one.
The Thai girlls are too Thai looking for me. I prefer them more Euro mix looking. Only girl in that video I could possibly consider is the blonde from around 9:09 to the end of the video. Which bar is she from?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2786244]The Thai girlls are too Thai looking for me. I prefer them more Euro mix looking. Only girl in that video I could possibly consider is the blonde from around 9:09 to the end of the video. Which bar is she from?[/QUOTE]Do you even realize how stupid this sounds? Do you go into a Thai restaurant and expect French food?
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2786250]Do you even realize how stupid this sounds? Do you go into a Thai restaurant and expect French food?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2786244]The Thai girlls are too Thai looking for me. I prefer them more Euro mix looking. Only girl in that video I could possibly consider is the blonde from around 9:09 to the end of the video. Which bar is she from?[/QUOTE]I think BB meant traditional Thai looks. He is correct. There are different mixes in Thai culture for women, just the same as the Filipinas. Some are mixed with European. Some are mixed with ethnic Chinese. Some mixed with Japanese. Some were mixed with Indian and so on and so on. It's like someone failing when they look at a girl and say she has an American look, yet America is now mixed with all sorts of colors and creeds.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2785715]Maybe ElMexicant can step in here and answer this. Barfines in Bangkok have always been cheaper than Pattaya for many years. Even by early 2016 Sensations was 2000 BF before midnight. Prices to the girls are generally the same since 2015 (3k ST, 5k LT). I assume Nana ladyboys ask for much less. For me I always felt drinks for myself and lady drinks are more costly in BKK but this varies widely on which gogo bar you go to.
If by tonight you mean Friday night go early it'll be a zoo. Maybe 8:30 pm to either Palace, Baccara, or Pin Up. I'm not sure what you mean by pushy. Have never had a single Pattaya gogo bar ask me to buy another drink after I bought my initial drink. In a place like Crazy House in BKK yes waitresses and mamasans are extremely pushy. If you mean pushy girls that all depends on an individual's ability to say no to a girl. Same applies to Germany FKK clubs. Yes at times an ugly won't leave you alone so I'm either firm with her or I grab the girl I'm interested in and talk to her absolutely ignoring ugmo.[/QUOTE]Dude below doesn't go to GoGo bars and gets Beach Road girls while rating them an 8. So I just keep my comments to myself. Rainbow BF is now 1000. Nana operates more like a brothel while Walking Street the girls want the weekend millionaires to go party at Hollywood, Bar, Myst, Republic, 808 and so on. You spend way much more money for the top end girls at Walking Street. Only way you get them for barfine, a few drinks, and short time of 3000, is towards closing. Then you have to question what type of girl at that quality is still here at closing? Anybody who thinks the prettiest and the best quality girls at GoGo bars on WS are available to ANYBODY is delusional. More times than not, you will have to spend out of the wazoo or settle for 3rd or 4th or 5th choice. It's a competition in there along with the other customers. Back in the days, they were getting 30-45 drinks a night. Then don't need a barfine. Many first timers come to Thailand and get a dose of reality quick when they get rejected or told "I am on period" messing around with top end GoGo bar girls.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2785275]Yes BKK IMO has better looking girls. I don't go into a go go bars anymore as I think they are major ripoffs so maybe my assessment isn't the best for a go go's. However when I walk around Nana Plaza in Bangkok and compare it to walking street and Soi 6 in Pattaya, hands down the girls that stand around outside are much better looking in Bangkok. Street walkers to me are better in Pattaya, but I'm not seeing a high volume of girls out there. Not sure what the real number is, but definitely less then 100 but you have to walk quite a bit. The massage parlors are the real gem to me when it comes to Bangkok. Definitely good looking girls at very reasonable prices. Pattaya makes my feet hurt because I have to walk so much to find someone doable.
I remember walking by Pin Ups on Sunday and Monday night, but I can't recall if the girls standing outside were hot. I'm fairly certain they were just average as no one really made my head turn on walking street. I probably wouldn't go in there though as they will probably fleece me for lady drinks, and charge me outrageous prices for BF and ST. Let me know if that isn't the case. If it's within reason I may go in there to do some scouting around.
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[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2786250]Do you even realize how stupid this sounds? Do you go into a Thai restaurant and expect French food?[/QUOTE]Hahahaha. Once I was in a PH bar and a guy complained that he flew all this way and there were no Russians.
I guess you can't please everyone.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2786066]I was reading on facebook last night. A guy that used to own a bar said some guy paid a two week barfine for a chick to go back home. He said there was no need to because the girl could have freely gone whenever she wanted. As soon as the guy got into the taxi to go to the airport she was back behind the bar. The owner said she did not need to, so when went and worked at the bar across the street.[/QUOTE]Still waiting a report from someone who practicing this sponsorship thingy, really curious to hear the thinking behind the hobby. Nobody here to share?
My regular told couple of weeks ago that beg Feb she need to go work to Bangkok for 2-3 weeks as her employer had some issues to take care there, and can not see until she back (she indeed is an office lady, but her employer seemingly allows her to take time off). As of Feb 1st her pic in her tf profile removed, and comment added she will be back later. Couple of days later love pics with sponsor 'BF' in a pool villa started appearing in her fb. The poor guy is probably truly unaware of her business once he goes out. The funny thing is that she is really hideous about the whole thing to her customers and probably truly believes that her customers believe the illogical BS she tells when she disappears. Tempting to send a pm to the guy to ask if she aware of her freelancing biz, including her review page in TFMI 555.
[QUOTE=Allover;2786079]I see a lot of 5's and 6's in the video, certainly no 8's or 9's. I'm thinking about Medellin in March but I've read Covid is a problem now and that numerous flights out of Medellin have been cancelled. Good to hear from Uncle V again.[/QUOTE]Thanks, man. TBH a few white knight experiences that burned my bridges with a few girls kind of put me off from posting for a while. Though these were on the Pattaya addicts thread.
I'm also mulling over my options for March. I may even go back to Cuba. I am back in contact with one of my really sweet and lovely girls from there. But flying there from the US and then back to Russia seems like a huge pain in the ass as far as organizing flights, visas, etc.
Returning to Pattaya after covid just now and I remember my daytime starting 2 pm was usually spent at Kinnaree where atmosphere was relaxed, off the beaten tourist track and ladies pretty hot and young (at least some of them). I read in some reports from November that Kinnaree is going down in quality and attitude of girls and atmosphere. Has anyone gone there recently? Usually the Kinnaree was my reason to rent a scooter in pattaya, so I wonder if that's worth now.
Besides Kinnaree, any other gentlemen clubs where to spend relaxed afternoon with some action?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Martin00;2786334]Usually the Kinnaree was my reason to rent a scooter in pattaya, so I wonder if that's worth now.
Besides Kinnaree, any other gentlemen clubs where to spend relaxed afternoon with some action?
[/QUOTE]No longer a need to rent a scooter to get to Kinnaree now that ride share is legal. I was taking Bolt from LK Metro area for 70-80 baht IIRC. There is baht bus too for 10 baht but you will have to walk around 15-20 minutes to Kinnaree after getting off the baht bus. Is arriving at Kinnaree all sweaty really worth saving 70 baht? Time is money for me in Pattaya. Rather spend 70 baht more and save around 30 minutes.
Afternoon you can head to the Kinnaree, Passion, Cosy Beach, and other Jomtien "G clubs" combination. You can do the Full Love Inn bars. You can try your luck walking along Buakhao. You can on occasion find a gem in one of those massage shops. You can do Soi 6. You can hook up with one of the gogo girls you met the night before or get a girl from TF.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2786260]Dude below doesn't go to GoGo bars and gets Beach Road girls while rating them an 8. So I just keep my comments to myself..[/QUOTE]Well first of all I didn't rate a single Beach Road girl an 8. The best I gave was a 7. I've been to the a go go's before and that's why I know they aren't my thing. The vast majority of the girls are average, and the better looking ones seems to want to fleece you for your money as you described. I'd rather fuck a 6 or 7 for a reasonable price then waste alot of money on an a go go bar.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2786311]Still waiting a report from someone who practicing this sponsorship thingy, really curious to hear the thinking behind the hobby. Nobody here to share?[/QUOTE]Well your question was the same of the guy that started the thread where I read that. I think there were 200 replies but I did not see what I would consider any legit answers. Basically I guess the senders were saying: 1. They needed it to care for their families. 2. Better to give directly to them than a charity where there are big wigs and middle men that will benefit from it.
One guy's response was the same as mine would have been: These guys get no attention where they are from that when the go somewhere and someone shows them a modicum of attention, they go off the deep end and keep giving money to try to keep getting the attention.
After 200 responses, here is the original poster's final conclusion:
"Thanks for all the feedback but I guess I will still never understand I mean they are not wives or even girlfriends they are just everybody's bargirl."
[QUOTE=Martin00;2786334]Returning to Pattaya after covid just now and I remember my daytime starting 2 pm was usually spent at Kinnaree where atmosphere was relaxed, off the beaten tourist track and ladies pretty hot and young (at least some of them). I read in some reports from November that Kinnaree is going down in quality and attitude of girls and atmosphere. Has anyone gone there recently? Usually the Kinnaree was my reason to rent a scooter in pattaya, so I wonder if that's worth now.
Besides Kinnaree, any other gentlemen clubs where to spend relaxed afternoon with some action?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Girl quality during the day isn't all that great in Pattaya. At least in regards to the places I've been to. I've tried looking around massage places on Soi 13/1, Soi 13/2, Soi Chalermphrakiat 25, and some other streets off of Soi Buakhao and they are all old, fat, ugly or ladyboys. I also went to Jomtien to try out a couple of GC's. Passion's is overrated if you ask me. Maybe saw one 7, a couple of 6's and the rest were 5 and below. Which isn't all that bad, however the issue is that there are so many guys there. It's as if this is the only daytime action or something so there are probably 3 or 4 guys for everyone 1 girl in there. I tried KitCat Club, and that is a waste of time. Hardly any girls, and of the girls there they weren't fuckable to me. I haven't tried the Soapy massages, but at 3 k to 5 k+ baht for better looking girls I'm hesitant to do it. It's hard for me to shell out that much dough because I think it's over inflated when compared to Europe and South America where I can get 9's and 10's for that much or less. If there really is a former Miss Thailand or Playboy bunny in there sure no problem I'll gladly pay that or more, but I highly doubt they are in there.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2785915]The 2 week millionaires promise to support ladies if they stop working bar and go back to the village to wait for them. It generally only takes a month or so for the 2 week guy to suffer buyer's regret and stop sending money.
In some cases, the lady won't go back to the village, she will stay in Pattaya with her Thai boyfriend, and use the sponsor's money for drinking. The sponsor will call her, which is very irritating for the lady, as she has to pretend to be in the village.
I know one lady who got 200,000 baht to go back to the village. She didn't go. The next guy promised her 70,000 baht a year, but continually, so then she went. She stayed in the village for 7 years, only coming to Pattaya to see her sponsor for 2 weeks every year. The 7th year, she stuck around in Pattaya after the sponsor went home, met another guy, got knocked up, and spit out a kid. That ended the sponsorship.
The point is that the 2 week millionaires take ladies off the market for some period after Christmas holiday.[/QUOTE]Ok, so basically the two week millionaires are cock blockers.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2786250]Do you even realize how stupid this sounds? Do you go into a Thai restaurant and expect French food?[/QUOTE]Not all that stupid. You could go to a Thai restaurant and get french fries.
I'm reading really disturbing reviews of the low quality of girls in Pattaya. My last trip to Thailand was 8 years ago and spent mostly in Bangkok. Back then my trip was worthwhile as I encountered girls of similar or even better quality than those I banged in Colombia. I have not been to Pattaya in several decades. For those who have been to both places recently how do girls available in Pattaya generally compare to Colombian chicas?
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2786250]Do you even realize how stupid this sounds? Do you go into a Thai restaurant and expect French food?[/QUOTE]To be clear, the majority of girls that you see working in Pattaya are not the standards for beauty in Thailand. Much like any country on this earth, the majority of the population aren't that good looking. So when someone says a typical Thai look that's just describing the general population, which I can apply to any country. I walk down any street in America and the majority of people are just fat, so I could say that I don't like the typical American look just as easily.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2786383]Well first of all I didn't rate a single Beach Road girl an 8. The best I gave was a 7. I've been to the a go go's before and that's why I know they aren't my thing. The vast majority of the girls are average, and the better looking ones seems to want to fleece you for your money as you described. I'd rather fuck a 6 or 7 for a reasonable price then waste a lot of money on an a go go bar.[/QUOTE]"I saw some gems last night as well on Beach Road. I think I saw an 8. She looked like one of those cute J-Pop girls. Nice slim figure, white skin and cute face. Unfortunately a guy was on her quick so I couldn't go with her."
Well. Then you need to place a citizen's arrest on whomever hijacked and hacked your account and wrote this if it wasn't you. Dunno why I even bother. Guess there goes your first of all. I am ready for the second of all now. I have been in Pattaya for 5. 5 months out of the last 6.25 months. Quite sure I know what's on the ground and what's not. You were giving an 8 to a "ladybug. " LOL.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2786399]I'm reading really disturbing reviews of the low quality of girls in Pattaya. My last trip to Thailand was 8 years ago and spent mostly in Bangkok. Back then my trip was worthwhile as I encountered girls of similar or even better quality than those I banged in Colombia. I have not been to Pattaya in several decades. For those who have been to both places recently how do girls available in Pattaya generally compare to Colombian chicas?[/QUOTE]I was in Colombia right before I came to Thailand in December. I'm still here in Thailand, and this is the first time I've ever been to Pattaya. If you ask me where I would rather purely monger, I would choose Colombia all day every day. It's so easy to find and bang hot girls in Colombia for reasonable prices. Plenty of 8's that can be found at the price range of $150 k-$300 k pesos so around $30 to $60 dollars. In Thailand it doesn't seem too easy to find 8's at reasonable prices. I had a hell of a time finding an 8 here in Pattaya. I've seen some a go go girls on Walking Street that I would say are 8's. However per several people reporting top walking street a go go girl's aren't cheap so value isn't really there. Probably the largest collection of 8's I've seen in any one place is in Bangkok at Thermae. However they aren't cheap either. They are asking for 3 k baht, but some are accepting 2. 5 k baht so that works out to be around $80 to $100 dollars. I just hate paying that much, so in Thailand finding myself more willing to go for 7's and sometimes 6's which can be had for $1 k to $2 k so around $30 to $60. I don't really regret coming to Thailand. First of all there is no comparison when it comes to food, entertainment, and tourism. I would take Thailand all day and everyday if you ask me where would I rather vacation. If I could do it, I would live in Thailand and visit Colombia when I want a monger vacation. Actually if I lived in Thailand I would rather monger in Europe as that is a closer destination.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2786395]Ok, so basically the two week millionaires are cock blockers.[/QUOTE]That's their goal. They are hoping that a few hundred dollars a month will stop a bargirl from fucking other guys.
The reverse is actually true, send a Thai lady enough money and she will be able to buy more Thai boys. Or land a young Farang.
There is no upside in sending money to a Thai lady.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2786399]I'm reading really disturbing reviews of the low quality of girls in Pattaya. My last trip to Thailand was 8 years ago and spent mostly in Bangkok. Back then my trip was worthwhile as I encountered girls of similar or even better quality than those I banged in Colombia. I have not been to Pattaya in several decades. For those who have been to both places recently how do girls available in Pattaya generally compare to Colombian chicas?[/QUOTE]You are hearing a longstanding whine. That the ladies aren't as good as 10 years ago. This was first posted on this forum in 1996.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2786244]The Thai girlls are too Thai looking for me. I prefer them more Euro mix looking. Only girl in that video I could possibly consider is the blonde from around 9:09 to the end of the video. Which bar is she from?[/QUOTE]The base racial makeup for most of Thailand is Mon (basically Cambodian) since the Thais only arrived recently in Thailand. But, Thailand is in IndoChina, which means that both Indian and Chinese influences are obvious, as well. Plus any Farang genetic contributions.
Check out Whisper Lounge, Soi Rungland.
[QUOTE=Martin00;2786334]Returning to Pattaya after covid just now and I remember my daytime starting 2 pm was usually spent at Kinnaree where atmosphere was relaxed, off the beaten tourist track and ladies pretty hot and young (at least some of them). I read in some reports from November that Kinnaree is going down in quality and attitude of girls and atmosphere. Has anyone gone there recently? Usually the Kinnaree was my reason to rent a scooter in pattaya, so I wonder if that's worth now.
Besides Kinnaree, any other gentlemen clubs where to spend relaxed afternoon with some action?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2786237]Where did you get the info about flights out of Medellin have been canceled? Nothing could be further from the truth. During the entire Covid period, Medellin was closed to visitors for a couple of months only, from March to December 2020.[/QUOTE]It was in a Medellin forum on this or another website. I assume you are correct.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2786410]I was in Colombia right before I came to Thailand in December. I'm still here in Thailand, and this is the first time I've ever been to Pattaya. If you ask me where I would rather purely monger, I would choose Colombia all day every day. It's so easy to find and bang hot girls in Colombia for reasonable prices. Plenty of 8's that can be found at the price range of $150 k-$300 k pesos so around $30 to $60 dollars. In Thailand it doesn't seem too easy to find 8's at reasonable prices. I had a hell of a time finding an 8 here in Pattaya. I've seen some a go go girls on Walking Street that I would say are 8's. However per several people reporting top walking street a go go girl's aren't cheap so value isn't really there. Probably the largest collection of 8's I've seen in any one place is in Bangkok at Thermae. However they aren't cheap either. They are asking for 3 k baht, but some are accepting 2. 5 k baht so that works out to be around $80 to $100 dollars. I just hate paying that much, so in Thailand finding myself more willing to go for 7's and sometimes 6's which can be had for $1 k to $2 k so around $30 to $60. I don't really regret coming to Thailand. First of all there is no comparison when it comes to food, entertainment, and tourism. I would take Thailand all day and everyday if you ask me where would I rather vacation. If I could do it, I would live in Thailand and visit Colombia when I want a monger vacation. Actually if I lived in Thailand I would rather monger in Europe as that is a closer destination.[/QUOTE]I would disagree with that statement that there are plenty of 8's that are easily.
Available for $30 to $60. I'm posting this from Medellin right now. I don't want guys to get the wrong idea that you can easily find these girls. If you do some research and put in some time and effort, yes you may be able to find these girls. But if you're coming for the first time, you are unlikely to find these girls at those prices very easily at all. But you can easily find 6/7 girls at the casas for $10-15 for non-GFE activities.
The great thing about Pattaya Is that you can easily find girls for a reasonable price without much effort. But it is true that most of the girls you find are six or sevens or older. Take a walk on Soi 6 and you can find your 8 for a reasonable price.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2786212]Maybe just post the picture of the thumbnail? When I click the link it just takes me to the video so I don't see any thumbnail.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up.
It's quite an effort to post you tube links. LOL. Hahaha.
Guys,
Talked to a manager of a gogobar today and he said barfines are now 2. 000 THB and up these days? Can someone confirm?
Seems that this (and lady drinks going into 200 THB and higher) makes Pattaya not worth the trip anymore if you are into Gogobars?
For obvious reason I won't disclose the name of the Gogo this guys work but I know him for several years and don't think he got a reason to lie.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2786237]Where did you get the info about flights out of Medellin have been canceled? Nothing could be further from the truth. During the entire Covid period, Medellin was closed to visitors for a couple of months only, from March to December 2020.[/QUOTE]I think he was talking about this post in reference to Spirit from the Medellin thread 2 weeks ago.
[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2781595]I had a flight to and from MDE, but it was cancelled. I went to their website and they have no flights out of MDE after the first week. Anyone know what is going on?
I texted them to get my refund, and they told me it had something to do with COVID cases in Medellin.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DevSagar;2786215]Tinder and Bumble are best, Hinge was total failure. Hinge had a lot of old age profiles around 40 ish.
Believe you me, I have had 40 matches on tinder in 45 days in Pattaya. I fucked 2 girls out of those 40. Man, still miss the 1st one. Perfect girl friend experience she gave in 1500 baht for one hour. 33 year old white, tall, thai busty chick. I pushed her away to go. Tinder has more of pros or chicks who would straight away quote 2 K short time, some of them are really beautiful and sexy. 2 chicks I gave a counter offer of 1. 5 k and they said no. I did not push, pursue, request again or bargain and moved on as Pattaya has a lot of pussy for everyone at various price points. But they were really beautiful, young, slender and sexy chicks.
Bumble has more of non pros. I am connected to a Moroccon chick in Bangkok, pure white, beautiful and wow figure. A few on Bumble are young girls working their day time shifts, a few divorced sexy moms and a few around 28 to 30 year old girls looking for fun. I have yet to explore the dating route in Bangkok of the girls matched.
I have put my all genuine pictures on both apps, absolutely original profile of what I do for work and what I am looking for. Last year, been twice to Vietnam, once to Nepal and once to Thailand so have a lot of travel stories and pics, recent ones which I do share with the chicks. My success rate in Bumble is good even in my home country but tinder is a dud here.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the intel. I used only TF when I was there which probably wasn't a good decision for trying to get non-pros. I'll have to try Bumble next time I'm out there.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2786399]I'm reading really disturbing reviews of the low quality of girls in Pattaya. My last trip to Thailand was 8 years ago [/QUOTE]Don't expect anything close to what you saw 8 years ago in Bangkok or Pattaya. The same applies to FKK clubs. FKK clubs are about 1% of what they were 8 years ago when they were full of Hungarian, Czech, Polish, Russian model like girls.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2786508]Don't expect anything close to what you saw 8 years ago in Bangkok or Pattaya. The same applies to FKK clubs. FKK clubs are about 1% of what they were 8 years ago when they were full of Hungarian, Czech, Polish, Russian model like girls.[/QUOTE]Visiting an FKK is on my bucket list. And you just poured some cold water on it. What changed so drastically in the last 8 years I wonder. Understand this is off topic for this location but would love to hear it from the horses mouth.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2786518]...Understand this is off topic for this location but would love to hear it from the horses mouth.[/QUOTE]I'm the only horse around here and I've never been to an FKK. Sorry, I can't help you.
Just a joke. Not a good joke, but a joke.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2786518]Visiting an FKK is on my bucket list. And you just poured some cold water on it. What changed so drastically in the last 8 years I wonder. Understand this is off topic for this location but would love to hear it from the horses mouth.[/QUOTE]No more Hungarians, Polish, Czech, or Russian girls and void of any nationalities other than Romanian and Bulgarian. Not that there aren't the odd super hot Ro girls but before you could walk in to many different clubs and find 20-30 girls you want to go with. Now you're lucky to find more than 1. Gets expensive looking for girls after paying 50 to 80 euro entry fee for 2 or 4 clubs per day. Prices for what I consider a basic session including DFK has jumped from 50 to 150 euro and if you want CIM, anal, DFK, BBFS, etc add 50 euro extra for each item you want. Used to be 100's of girls in a larger club now there's like 50-70. I'll be there in June again and hope to be able to give a more positive update.
Just a warning don't believe most of what you read on the FKK forums. If you notice there are a ton of handles who only seem to know a handful of girls. I can't be the only person who finds that odd.
[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2786470]Talked to a manager of a gogobar today and he said barfines are now 2. 000 THB and up these days? Can someone confirm?
Seems that this (and lady drinks going into 200 THB and higher) makes Pattaya not worth the trip anymore if you are into Gogobars?[/QUOTE]
Can't confirm for you if you don't name the bar. 2000 barfines have been around since 2016. Sensations and What's Up to name a couple at that time. They started the tiered BF. They were both in the top 5 gogo bars at the time so could do it. Best deal back in those days that had decent girls was Happy agogo.
Model drinks have been 200 baht since they introduced the model (ie topless) system in 2017(?). Are you saying drinks for all gogo girls are 200 now? Don't slam Pattaya drink prices. Go buy some lady drinks at some of the BKK or Phuket gogo bars. You'll be wishing you were in Pattaya.
Drink prices don't bother me at all. I look at it like the price of admission to a boring movie. However, with prices increasing I both expect more DFK and mutual groping. Also no request for a second drink any time soon.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2786518]Visiting an FKK is on my bucket list. And you just poured some cold water on it. What changed so drastically in the last 8 years I wonder. Understand this is off topic for this location but would love to hear it from the horses mouth.[/QUOTE]The pandemic has totally devastated the talent pool. I was there last February and things were definitely not as good as they once were. However I look at mongering in Europe as a whole and FKK's are just part of my overall mongering. I visit many other places around Europe as well. FKK's are still lots of fun. Go to one of the bigger and better clubs and it's great to spend all day there. Free food, saunas, swimming pools, and hot naked girls walking around so the entry fee is worth it to me. 50 euros can still get you basic service from any chick in an FKK, but I often opt for the 100 euros for 1 hour including DFK and BBJ. When I was there the bigger clubs still had plenty of 8's and 9's, but the smaller clubs were total trash and a waste of time. Hopefully now that COVID is a thing of the past and the talent is returning. I'll find out in April when I return to Europe!
I read this rating stuff a shit load and to me, it makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever coming from guys who just throw out a random number. They have no basis for their ratings. First of all a 10 is PERFECT score. How they hell can you tell what her body looks like from a picture or with clothes on? Tits maybe sloppy. Giant pussy lips that hang. Stretch marks underneath the ass. She gets old. And what about make up off? So how do you rate them a 10? Stupid. That's PERFECT. Come on now.
Then for there to be 9,8,7,6. There must be 1,2,3,4. Or the scale isn't a fucking scale. You take a sample population like all the girls at Nightwish bar Soi 6. You line them up from ugliest to hottest or who would you fuck first to last. Then you can assign them rating numbers. That's how I see a scale works. So when guys say a girl is 7. What does that mean? Better than 70% of all women ages 18-68? What's the population sample we are talking about? Then they argue and debate on their rankings. Silly. So I'll make it easy.
Not fuckable at all.
Fuckable if she paid me.
Fuckable for free / dating.
Fuckable I will pay.
Fuckable I will over pay.
I will earn my red wings and over pay.
I will let her piss in my mouth and use my tongue as toilet paper and over pay.
These are a few of my recent "fuckable I will pay. " Not the prettiest or best lookers, one kind of funky looking. But as I look at the crowd on Khaosan the other night, I would not trade these girls in the pics for 95% of the civilians females aged 18-68 that I saw. Especially when I've seen them naked already. So then you have your population sample in Khaosan, then you can scale and assign numbers accordingly.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2786395]Ok, so basically the two week millionaires are cock blockers.[/QUOTE]Talk about taking it to extremes, a bargirl I know met a guy over Christmas, he went home and just came back, and they got married in the temple today.
I guess she will be off the market for a while.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2786558]T50 euros can still get you basic service from any chick in an FKK,[/QUOTE]I can choose ANY girl at Oase, Sharks, Palace in FRA and Samya in Cologne and have sex with her for 50 euro? This is contrary to everything I have been hearing for the top girls.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2786585]I can choose ANY girl at Oase, Sharks, Palace in FRA and Samya in Cologne and have sex with her for 50 euro? This is contrary to everything I have been hearing for the top girls.[/QUOTE]Well to be fair I mainly opted for the 100 euro all inclusive, but I did session a couple times for basic service at 50 euros without issues.
Everyone agrees on a standard of beauty when it's obvious. Every girl in this video is smoking. Unless you're gay you would agree. They are all grandmas now but there is a standard out there and this video is it.
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=128LI6_4L-s[/URL]
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2786536]
2000 barfines have been around since 2016. Sensations and What's Up to name a couple at that time.
Model drinks have been 200 baht since they introduced the model (ie topless) system in 2017(?). Are you saying drinks for all gogo girls are 200 now? [/QUOTE]Agree with what you say on the FKK's. The golden days are over for sure.
And it seems that barfines are 2 K now EVERYWHERE. So not only in the top5 gogos but. Lets make it the top 20?
Same for LD that are just up for inflation (excuse).
[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2786470]Guys,
Talked to a manager of a gogobar today and he said barfines are now 2. 000 THB and up these days? Can someone confirm?
Seems that this (and lady drinks going into 200 THB and higher) makes Pattaya not worth the trip anymore if you are into Gogobars?
For obvious reason I won't disclose the name of the Gogo this guys work but I know him for several years and don't think he got a reason to lie.[/QUOTE]You apparently do frequent Gogo bars. 2000 barfine has been the amount for models at most GoGo bars. Coyotes barfines are different and hostesses as well. Pricing before midnight and after midnight is a factor as well. It's been this way even before COVID. There are places still with no models like Baccara, Windmill, etc where it's much cheaper. Barfines are rolled into the girls salaries and contract. So yeah, if you are paying 2000 plus 3000ST plus 4 200 baht drinks. All of that goes to the girl. 5800 for ST. This might only translate to $175 for a couple of hours to tourists, but considering cost of living index and money value in Thailand (3. 5 X) is actually about $600 in what they can spend it on. So yeah, it's not cheap. There are guys who spend 10,000 on up a night for 1 girl.
Those who are frequent flyers at Gogo bars and have a good reputation with the staff and girls get them at much cheaper prices. I've had girls pay their own barfines out of their own pocket just to come party and be able to leave early. I've had girls accept 1 drink or 0 drink. I've had models only accept 2000ST and even 1500ST if they see me before or after work. Long stay guys have it much easier than weekend warriors. I've been both. I like the cheaper option as long as I am not sacrificing quality.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2786590]Well to be fair I mainly opted for the 100 euro all inclusive, but I did session a couple times for basic service at 50 euros without issues.[/QUOTE]100E for 30 minutes is now common in Hessen clubs, it started in Sharks and has spread to a lot of other places. Up in Dusseldorf, you can find a few places where the price is still 50E. What's even worse, is that the girls charge more for what they call extra's which may include BBBJ. Don't forget about the cost of admission, 30E - 80E depending on the club and time.
Just spent ten days in Pattaya. Most of the gogo's barfine is 1500 baht. One place the mama told me 2000 baht. I can't remember which place. Pin ups has the best line-up but most nights in there it's packed with young Asian guys. Other nights it's not. Even the weekend it wasn't packed. So it's worth checking out to see how busy it is. When it's packed I just turn around and leave because I won't be able to get any attention from the hot girls. Tanta is cozy and comfortable and pretty much a white guy place. I also liked XS and Palace and did some barfines at all these. So maybe Pin-ups was the 2000 place because I don't think I barfined a girl there. Overall the scene felt more welcoming than 4 years ago but the talent not as good.
I probably met about 8 thaifriendly girls. One was very good looking and similar to her photos. One was so different I only gave her taxi money and said good-bye. The others ranged from good enough to make my dick hard to "I only want a massage please". I learned that girls asking 1500 baht are girls that I'm not interested in meeting. TF is a real crap shoot but something to do during the daytime hours if you're just otherwise hanging out. I didn't even visit soi 6 this trip as that's really not my scene.
Every night I walked from about center strip to walking street. Lots of girls saying "Hello," the entire way. Of course more as I would near WS. I almost never interacted with the girls except to offer a polite "Hello," back at them. But my second to last night there was sort of a stunner along the way. We chatted a couple minutes and she sent me a Line message as I don't always carry my phone with me. I wasn't interested in taking her right then because it was still early only about 10 PM and I didn't take a pill yet to make my dick hard. So anyhow she came over to my hotel the next night and it was by far the best session of my trip. She's 20 years old, 43 kg and no baby. Told her she should be working in a gogo club and she said everybody tells her that but said she doesn't want a boss. So anyhow there are needles in the haystack to be found on beach road. I've spent months in Pattaya and finally had my first beach road girl haha. As she left told me she's not supposed to have feelings for customer but does for me. Yeah she's pretty new to the game. Her short time price is 1300 baht. I haven't asked enough girls to know the going rate out there but it would be apples and oranges anyhow.
Regarding FKK clubs yes unfortunately the scene has completely gone to hell there. Don't go unless you just want to check that box. Glad I visited many of them the couple years before Covid as prices just basically doubled post-covid. It makes no sense at all and I will no longer be making an annual trip to Frankfurt.
I'm still in Thailand and so will not be giving away any hot girl contacts that I've met. On the other hand if someone has something to trade I'm open-minded on that. Same in Bangkok.
Enjoy and treat the girls well.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2786536]No more Hungarians, Polish, Czech, or Russian girls and void of any nationalities other than Romanian and Bulgarian. Not that there aren't the odd super hot Ro girls but before you could walk in to many different clubs and find 20-30 girls you want to go with. Now you're lucky to find more than 1. Gets expensive looking for girls after paying 50 to 80 euro entry fee for 2 or 4 clubs per day. Prices for what I consider a basic session including DFK has jumped from 50 to 150 euro and if you want CIM, anal, DFK, BBFS, etc add 50 euro extra for each item you want. Used to be 100's of girls in a larger club now there's like 50-70. I'll be there in June again and hope to be able to give a more positive update.
Just a warning don't believe most of what you read on the FKK forums. If you notice there are a ton of handles who only seem to know a handful of girls. I can't be the only person who finds that odd.
Can't confirm for you if you don't name the bar. 2000 barfines have been around since 2016. Sensations and What's Up to name a couple at that time. They started the tiered BF. They were both in the top 5 gogo bars at the time so could do it. Best deal back in those days that had decent girls was Happy agogo.
Model drinks have been 200 baht since they introduced the model (ie topless) system in 2017(?). Are you saying drinks for all gogo girls are 200 now? Don't slam Pattaya drink prices. Go buy some lady drinks at some of the BKK or Phuket gogo bars. You'll be wishing you were in Pattaya.
Drink prices don't bother me at all. I look at it like the price of admission to a boring movie. However, with prices increasing I both expect more DFK and mutual groping. Also no request for a second drink any time soon.[/QUOTE]Wow wtf Germany has tripled in price up to 150? That's insane. What about the red light houses and europarks?
[QUOTE=Bluat;2786590]but I did session a couple times for basic service at 50 euros without issues.[/QUOTE]Basic service is mean no FK and CBJ?
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2786645]Just spent ten days in Pattaya. Most of the gogo's barfine is 1500 baht. One place the mama told me 2000 baht. I can't remember which place. Pin ups has the best line-up but most nights in there it's packed with young Asian guys. Other nights it's not. Even the weekend it wasn't packed. So it's worth checking out to see how busy it is. When it's packed I just turn around and leave because I won't be able to get any attention from the hot girls. Tanta is cozy and comfortable and pretty much a white guy place. I also liked XS and Palace and did some barfines at all these. So maybe Pin-ups was the 2000 place because I don't think I barfined a girl there. Overall the scene felt more welcoming than 4 years ago but the talent not as good.
I probably met about 8 thaifriendly girls. One was very good looking and similar to her photos. One was so different I only gave her taxi money and said good-bye. The others ranged from good enough to make my dick hard to "I only want a massage please". I learned that girls asking 1500 baht are girls that I'm not interested in meeting. TF is a real crap shoot but something to do during the daytime hours if you're just otherwise hanging out. I didn't even visit soi 6 this trip as that's really not my scene.
Every night I walked from about center strip to walking street. Lots of girls saying "Hello," the entire way. Of course more as I would near WS. I almost never interacted with the girls except to offer a polite "Hello," back at them. But my second to last night there was sort of a stunner along the way. We chatted a couple minutes and she sent me a Line message as I don't always carry my phone with me. I wasn't interested in taking her right then because it was still early only about 10 PM and I didn't take a pill yet to make my dick hard. So anyhow she came over to my hotel the next night and it was by far the best session of my trip. She's 20 years old, 43 kg and no baby. Told her she should be working in a gogo club and she said everybody tells her that but said she doesn't want a boss. So anyhow there are needles in the haystack to be found on beach road. I've spent months in Pattaya and finally had my first beach road girl haha. As she left told me she's not supposed to have feelings for customer but does for me. Yeah she's pretty new to the game. Her short time price is 1300 baht. I haven't asked enough girls to know the going rate out there but it would be apples and oranges anyhow.
Regarding FKK clubs yes unfortunately the scene has completely gone to hell there. Don't go unless you just want to check that box. Glad I visited many of them the couple years before Covid as prices just basically doubled post-covid. It makes no sense at all and I will no longer be making an annual trip to Frankfurt.
I'm still in Thailand and so will not be giving away any hot girl contacts that I've met. On the other hand if someone has something to trade I'm open-minded on that. Same in Bangkok.
Enjoy and treat the girls well.[/QUOTE]Long expensive flights plus room and board just to find a needle in the haystack? You can skip the flight and hunt elsewhere if it's that hard.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2786665]Basic service is mean no FK and CBJ?[/QUOTE]That's right, pretty basic. A quick hit it and quit it. Probably not most guy's thing but they are smoking hot so it's not hard for me to nut. I don't need BBBJ and DFK from all girls. DFK sometimes disgust me thinking about how many dick she sucked that day and if she used mouth wash.
[QUOTE=Vector313;2786666]Long expensive flights plus room and board just to find a needle in the haystack? You can skip the flight and hunt elsewhere if it's that hard.[/QUOTE]Think of it this way, Thailand is a beautiful country where you have beautiful malls, cheap amazing food, amazing shopping, beautiful islands, and a rich culture. Any girl you are able to get is just icing on the cake. I would never choose this as my go-to location for mongering, but I enjoy a great vacation and if there are girls that I can find to fuck then all the better. It may take some time, but if persistent then you will find something to your liking in regards to looks and price. I have in both Bangkok and Pattaya.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2786645]I'm still in Thailand and so will not be giving away any hot girl contacts that I've met. On the other hand if someone has something to trade I'm open-minded on that. Same in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Glad you guys are having fun. Sorry I'm not there. Go see Minnie at Amsterdam Bar on Full Love Inn. I think she's your type as well as the other guys so share this post with them. YouTube video and my review posted in this thread.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2786559]I read this rating stuff a shit load and to me, it makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever coming from guys who just throw out a random number. They have no basis for their ratings. First of all a 10 is PERFECT score. How they hell can you tell what her body looks like from a picture or with clothes on? Tits maybe sloppy. Giant pussy lips that hang. Stretch marks underneath the ass. She gets old. And what about make up off? So how do you rate them a 10? Stupid. That's PERFECT. Come on now.
[/QUOTE]Because as with most things it is entirely subjective and relative. One person's perfect meal, house, car, day, woman is not the same as everybody else's. Some people's perfect may be giant pussy lips that hang, or a woman that is older, or pizza with meat. They have a basis for their rating, it is just not the same as your basis. How can you give her a perfect 10 if you can't see the grades she made in school or if you do not know how well she cooks mofongo?
[QUOTE=Vector313;2786666]Long expensive flights plus room and board just to find a needle in the haystack? You can skip the flight and hunt elsewhere if it's that hard.[/QUOTE]He said ON BEACH ROAD, which is just one of the many ways to find chicks in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2786673]Think of it this way, Thailand is a beautiful country where you have beautiful malls, cheap amazing food, amazing shopping, beautiful islands, and a rich culture. Any girl you are able to get is just icing on the cake. I would never choose this as my go-to location for mongering, but I enjoy a great vacation and if there are girls that I can find to fuck then all the better. It may take some time, but if persistent then you will find something to your liking in regards to looks and price. I have in both Bangkok and Pattaya.[/QUOTE]You succinclty described exactly why I always return to Thailand instead of going elsewhere. Just can't beat the total package of what Thailand has to offer. No if one is strictly travelling for mongering then yes there are probably much better options than Thailand, but when you factor in the total travel experience, Thailand is stoll the goat imo.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2786559]I read this rating stuff a shit load and to me, it makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever coming from guys who just throw out a random number. They have no basis for their ratings. First of all a 10 is PERFECT score. How they hell can you tell what her body looks like from a picture or with clothes on? Tits maybe sloppy. Giant pussy lips that hang. Stretch marks underneath the ass. She gets old. And what about make up off? So how do you rate them a 10? Stupid. That's PERFECT. Come on now.
Then for there to be 9,8,7,6. There must be 1,2,3,4. Or the scale isn't a fucking scale. You take a sample population like all the girls at Nightwish bar Soi 6. You line them up from ugliest to hottest or who would you fuck first to last. Then you can assign them rating numbers. That's how I see a scale works. So when guys say a girl is 7. What does that mean? Better than 70% of all women ages 18-68? What's the population sample we are talking about? Then they argue and debate on their rankings. Silly. So I'll make it easy.
Not fuckable at all.
Fuckable if she paid me.
Fuckable for free / dating.
Fuckable I will pay.
Fuckable I will over pay.
I will earn my red wings and over pay.
I will let her piss in my mouth and use my tongue as toilet paper and over pay.
These are a few of my recent "fuckable I will pay. " Not the prettiest or best lookers, one kind of funky looking. But as I look at the crowd on Khaosan the other night, I would not trade these girls in the pics for 95% of the civilians females aged 18-68 that I saw. Especially when I've seen them naked already. So then you have your population sample in Khaosan, then you can scale and assign numbers accordingly.[/QUOTE]Good one. Funny. On the numbers thing, they would all be 8 or 9's in my part of the US. I never see girls that thin.
[QUOTE=Vector313;2786666]Long expensive flights plus room and board just to find a needle in the haystack? You can skip the flight and hunt elsewhere if it's that hard.[/QUOTE]Yeah the easy hunting is in Medellin Colombia so that's where I'm ususally at. But after four years I needed some good foot massages haha. Also love the food and hot weather of Thailand. And I usually pull a gogo girl every night. Loving Nana Plaza again this week. Seems like there's more hotties every night than the night before. The "needle in the haystack" was just dumb luck on my way to Walking Street gogos.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2786687]Glad you guys are having fun. Sorry I'm not there. Go see Minnie at Amsterdam Bar on Full Love Inn. I think she's your type as well as the other guys so share this post with them. YouTube video and my review posted in this thread.[/QUOTE]Minnie is hot. I was in Amsterdam bar talking to her, I asked her how much for a BJ and she said she doesn't do BJ. She offered FS and I walked.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2786687]Glad you guys are having fun. Sorry I'm not there. Go see Minnie at Amsterdam Bar on Full Love Inn. I think she's your type as well as the other guys so share this post with them. YouTube video and my review posted in this thread.[/QUOTE]Thanks BB and Mjen. I'll check her out next week. I'm ok without the bj if she's hot and tight.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2786703]Because as with most things it is entirely subjective and relative. One person's perfect meal, house, car, day, woman is not the same as everybody else's. Some people's perfect may be giant pussy lips that hang, or a woman that is older, or pizza with meat. They have a basis for their rating, it is just not the same as your basis. How can you give her a perfect 10 if you can't see the grades she made in school or if you do not know how well she cooks mofongo?[/QUOTE]I get the personal, relative, and subjective part. But when I ask "what is the scale based on," seems nobody has an answer. Like the dude that said he saw an 8 on BR, Japanese anime look alike or whatever. How did he come to that's an 8? Did he see under clothes? What if there is a dick? Then where are the 1-7's, if that's an 8? What's difference between a 1 and 2? Or 1. 5? Basically, I think they just make up these ratings so they can pretend they have some type of valid judgement amongst other men. Look I was able to land an 8 or 9. I know what I am talking about type ego. Yeah whatever.
I am at the point where it's.
1. fuckable.
2. not fuckable.
3. pay.
4. not pay.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2786845]I get the personal, relative, and subjective part. But when I ask "what is the scale based on," seems nobody has an answer. Like the dude that said he saw an 8 on BR, Japanese anime look alike or whatever. How did he come to that's an 8? Did he see under clothes? What if there is a dick? Then where are the 1-7's, if that's an 8? What's difference between a 1 and 2? Or 1. 5? Basically, I think they just make up these ratings so they can pretend they have some type of valid judgement amongst other men. Look I was able to land an 8 or 9. I know what I am talking about type ego. Yeah whatever.
I am at the point where it's.
1. fuckable.
2. not fuckable.
3. pay.
4. not pay.[/QUOTE]Case in point.
As I am typing this, I show this first pic (girl in red lingerie) to a few guys around me. They all rate her in the photo as an 8 or 9. When I ask why, they just say she looks good or hot or sexy. Then I show the other 5 pics, one by one, of the SAME girl and suddenly they have a change of opinion. Make up, bra, clothing hide the truth. So that leads me to believe they don't know shit about rating girls, especially with a glance. To me, fuckable but not payable. Maybe she has to buy me dinner and a drink or two.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2786845] Yeah whatever.
I am at the point where it's.
1. fuckable.
2. not fuckable.
3. pay.
4. not pay.[/QUOTE]Exactly. One man's 5 is another man's 8.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2786840]Thanks BB and Mjen. I'll check her out next week. I'm ok without the bj if she's hot and tight.[/QUOTE]Apparently she doesn't do almost everything because there are other stuff she told me she doesn't do.
And it's quite funny to see some guys that are supposedly taking only the best tier girls bringing that girl's name over and over because she is not that "hot".
Personally, LOL,
Everyone seems to think they are Donal Trump thinking it is their beauty pageant or something like being a judge?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2786889]Personally, LOL,
Everyone seems to think they are Donal Trump thinking it is their beauty pageant or something like being a judge?[/QUOTE]Exactly my thought.
So many guys throwing out numbers like 5 or 6 about these girls and probably thinking these same girls are rating them 10's, it's becoming ridiculous.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2786559]I read this rating stuff a shit load and to me, it makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever coming from guys who just throw out a random number. They have no basis for their ratings. First of all a 10 is PERFECT score. How they hell can you tell what her body looks like from a picture or with clothes on? Tits maybe sloppy. Giant pussy lips that hang. Stretch marks underneath the ass. She gets old. And what about make up off? So how do you rate them a 10? Stupid. That's PERFECT. Come on now.
Then for there to be 9,8,7,6. There must be 1,2,3,4. Or the scale isn't a fucking scale. You take a sample population like all the girls at Nightwish bar Soi 6. You line them up from ugliest to hottest or who would you fuck first to last. Then you can assign them rating numbers. That's how I see a scale works. So when guys say a girl is 7. What does that mean? Better than 70% of all women ages 18-68? What's the population sample we are talking about? Then they argue and debate on their rankings. Silly. So I'll make it easy.
Not fuckable at all.
Fuckable if she paid me.
Fuckable for free / dating.
Fuckable I will pay.
Fuckable I will over pay.
I will earn my red wings and over pay.
I will let her piss in my mouth and use my tongue as toilet paper and over pay.
These are a few of my recent "fuckable I will pay. " Not the prettiest or best lookers, one kind of funky looking. But as I look at the crowd on Khaosan the other night, I would not trade these girls in the pics for 95% of the civilians females aged 18-68 that I saw. Especially when I've seen them naked already. So then you have your population sample in Khaosan, then you can scale and assign numbers accordingly.[/QUOTE]Everyone has a basis for their rating system. And the best way to find out what their basis is just ask. It's not that hard to do instead of going on a rant.
The old guys complain that the ladies aren't so hot now.
Easy to understand why: you only remember the good ones from previous trips.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2786899]Everyone has a basis for their rating system. And the best way to find out what their basis is just ask. It's not that hard to do instead of going on a rant.[/QUOTE]So I am asking you. How does your 1-10 scale work? Where do you place the quadriplegics with plastic limbs and old grandmas with heavy makeup? What about a pretty clothed girl with full blown AIDs?
1. First explain how somebody hacked your account to wrote 2 conflicting comments below.
2. Then explain how can you scale up to 10 which is perfection and don't ever see them naked? Maybe they had a dick or baby damage or saggy tits, but you can still give them an 8 score on a darkly lit Beach? 10 is perfection of a 100% score and you can do it with your X ray vision eyes?
I give NOBODY a 10 on this Earth ever. LOL.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2786383]Well first of all I didn't rate a single Beach Road girl an 8. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bluat;2785698]
I saw some gems last night as well on Beach Road. I think I saw an 8. She looked like one of those cute J-Pop girls. Nice slim figure, white skin and cute face. Unfortunately a guy was on her quick so I couldn't go with her.
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[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2786939]So I am asking you. How does your 1-10 scale work? Where do you place the quadriplegics with plastic limbs and old grandmas with heavy makeup? What about a pretty clothed girl with full blown AIDs?
1. First explain how somebody hacked your account to wrote 2 conflicting comments below.
2. Then explain how can you scale up to 10 which is perfection and don't ever see them naked? Maybe they had a dick or baby damage or saggy tits, but you can still give them an 8 score on a darkly lit Beach? 10 is perfection of a 100% score and you can do it with your X ray vision eyes?
I give NOBODY a 10 on this Earth ever. LOL.[/QUOTE]There from the same thread that's my scale. I start with Miss Thailand and move down from there. It's ok if you don't want to give a 10 because that's your definition. If Miss Thailand is a 9 or an 8 to you then my 10 is your 8 or 9. See not so hard and now when I report you have a frame of reference when I say a 7 or 8 what it will now mean to you. Don't need X-Ray visions to have a good idea of what a girl will look like. If you are hung up about me saying "I think I saw an 8" please understand that "think" means exactly that. I can't qualify for sure because I couldn't take her home with me so she only appears to potentially be an 8, not saying she was 100% an 8. Just calm down and let people use their scale however they want. If someone says a 10 I would ask for clarification if she is Miss Thailand instead of just blasting them like a keyboard warrior.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2785698]As a frame of reference for Asian girls a 10 to me is an Asian beauty queen like this year's miss Thailand. 9's are like the Kpop idols, 8's aren't as pretty to be a model, idol or actress but still would be one of the prettiest girls in school. 7's are your girl next door that are cute with nice figures still +/-5 pounds. 6's are at the upper limit of my weight limit and looks. 5's are over the hill or just overweight. I won't touch a 5. This is my points of reference so if someone reads my reviews can now understand what I'm looking for. For those that see my 6's and 5's as 8's and 9's then you'll be in heaven here.[/QUOTE]
I took a walk down Soi 6 today. Lots of young ladies available, but not many silicon enhanced. Most ladies with big tits are also quite hefty, which is the norm for young ladies.
The biggest problem with Soi 6 is how to pick with all the choices.
One lady I know constantly sends me messages asking me to come to her bar to buy drinks (I ignore her). Or, she sends crying face emojis because she has no customers (strangely, when I do go to her, she always has a customer).
Yesterday, she posted on Facebook showing the gold she bought.
You can imagine what I wrote, the next time she sent me a beg message.
Damn that's a few pages wasted on the definition of a 10 (or 5).
Not fuckable.
Fuckable.
Makes it a LOT easier. If I look at my own binary scale? Have to say at least 70% is not_fuckable. This might be for different reasons.
* Too old.
* Too fat.
* Too arrogant (pretty face, big fake boobs but wrong attitude is a pass for me anyway).
* Pricing!
SO I would say fuckable for me is a 6-8. And I do see less of them.
If you mix in the pricing. I would say 2017-2019 I always aimed on the 2 K longtime freelancers (with a beauty score of nextdoor / average).
With inflation the problem is you get that chick not anymore for 2 K. So if you want to spend the same amount as before covid. You end up compromising on looks. If you look for the same kind of chicks as before covid? Well. You probably pay more now.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2786856]As I am typing this, I show this first pic (girl in red lingerie) to a few guys around me. They all rate her in the photo as an 8 or 9. [/QUOTE]5 or less for me even based on the red lingerie photo. Hard pass. Am I picky? Hell yes.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2786968]There from the same thread that's my scale. I start with Miss Thailand and move down from there. It's ok if you don't want to give a 10 because that's your definition. If Miss Thailand is a 9 or an 8 to you then my 10 is your 8 or 9. See not so hard and now when I report you have a frame of reference when I say a 7 or 8 what it will now mean to you. [/QUOTE]Seems your frame of reference may have to change soon. The Thai ladyboy owner of a bunch of pageants such as Miss Universe and Miss USA has said that pageants will no longer be about how someone looks, but will be about women's empowerment instead. Are you going to let the ladyboys decide your standard of beauty from now on? Kind of ironic for a ladyboy to be talking about empowering women. That is like Superman talking about empowering kryptonite.
[QUOTE=Bluat;2786968]There from the same thread that's my scale. I start with Miss Thailand and move down from there. It's ok if you don't want to give a 10 because that's your definition. If Miss Thailand is a 9 or an 8 to you then my 10 is your 8 or 9. See not so hard and now when I report you have a frame of reference when I say a 7 or 8 what it will now mean to you. Don't need X-Ray visions to have a good idea of what a girl will look like. If you are hung up about me saying "I think I saw an 8" please understand that "think" means exactly that. I can't qualify for sure because I couldn't take her home with me so she only appears to potentially be an 8, not saying she was 100% an 8. Just calm down and let people use their scale however they want. If someone says a 10 I would ask for clarification if she is Miss Thailand instead of just blasting them like a keyboard warrior.[/QUOTE]Trust me. I get that everyone has a different scale. I just want to know how they derived their scale. So you say Miss Thailand here is your perfect 10. I'm just curious what happens to the same girl when she doesn't wear make up like in the other pic? You see her on the street. She still a 10? It's the same girl. So has to be right?
I personally need to see them naked to even think about scaling them. Perky tits at least (Cs) a must. Round bottom and not a flat ass or saggy butt is a must. No thigh gaps. Correct arm length. Correct legs to torso ratio. Shoulders no wider than hips. No deep or squeaky voices. Beautiful without make up. Sexier with make up. No stretch marks or cellulite marks. No uneven coloring of the skin or patches. Pussy neatly trimmed not a forest or completely bald. I am just amazed how you can come to all these conclusions by just looking at a Miss Thailand pic.
But on the their hand, now I understand what really happened on Beach Road with the "8" and why you like to walk around Nana Plaza and not go into the GoGo Bars. Yep, it's a ladybugs infestation in Nana Plaza alright. Enjoy the rest of your trip in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2786912]The old guys complain that the ladies aren't so hot now.
Easy to understand why: you only remember the good ones from previous trips.[/QUOTE]Let me defend my fellow old guys. In the early 2000's there were far more good looking P4 P girls than today. No comparison. There were far more girls on the streets and in the bars and go gos back then which means a larger number of good to great looking ones available. Also the girls were more willing to go with older guys back then. No talk of of periods or I don't go with customers. I was 20 years younger than and it was simple to pick out the prettiest girl in a bar or go go and she would go with me. Today a lot of the hot ones prefer to just sell lady drinks.
Another difference between then and now. The older guys back then could get more of the pretty ones than they do today.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2786856]Case in point.
As I am typing this, I show this first pic (girl in red lingerie) to a few guys around me. They all rate her in the photo as an 8 or 9. When I ask why, they just say she looks good or hot or sexy. Then I show the other 5 pics, one by one, of the SAME girl and suddenly they have a change of opinion. Make up, bra, clothing hide the truth. So that leads me to believe they don't know shit about rating girls, especially with a glance. To me, fuckable but not payable. Maybe she has to buy me dinner and a drink or two.[/QUOTE]First pic an attractive girl, the next few pics 5-6. After a sixpack and a few G&T's I would rate the girl in the last pic a solid 10 if I'm there and she says " fuck me Daddy" LOL.
The Pattaya area is filled with Russians, typically small families. Because Russian men are fleeing the war. Some can work online, some even have enough money to arrange a long stay visa. But most will either overstay their visa and / or run out of money.
Then you will see their girlfriends or wives working freelance. Give it a few months.
[QUOTE=Allover;2787034]Let me defend my fellow old guys. In the early 2000's there were far more good looking P4 P girls than today. No comparison. There were far more girls on the streets and in the bars and go gos back then which means a larger number of good to great looking ones available. Also the girls were more willing to go with older guys back then. No talk of of periods or I don't go with customers. I was 20 years younger than and it was simple to pick out the prettiest girl in a bar or go go and she would go with me. Today a lot of the hot ones prefer to just sell lady drinks.
Another difference between then and now. The older guys back then could get more of the pretty ones than they do today.[/QUOTE]And it was always a buyers market 20 years ago. Low season in Pattaya was really low. After Cobra Gold until the end of October Pattaya was pretty empty of tourists, but there was always plenty of gals. I remember when the first Starbucks opened on Beach road at Soi 13. We grab a coffee and sit upstairs and there would literally be no one but us for hours every afternoon. Soi 6 was so much fun as it was all closed bars and no loud music pumping. Bars opened about 2:00 pm and by 6:00 pm they were pretty empty. It was an afternoon hang out and quite fun. Night time you had your pic of several areas to wander and the discos of course after hours were unbelievable. And don't think I ever paid more than a thousand Baht at the time. Most gals you met on the street were 500 and I had some amazing experiences.
And another comment on age. One of the attractions of Thailand back then for a mid-30's dude looking for a place to spend his days and grow old was it the older dudes always had the best looking gals. These were guys in their 50's and 60's and they always seem to have the pick of the litter partially due to the fact that the majority of them were here on fat expat packages or retired with quite a bit of cash. Also most of the gals back then were looking for something long-term and stable as opposed to the quick baht which was much less than it is now. It's a completely different scene now, things change, but for the local the online scene is still very good, and it will never really catch on with tourists.
[QUOTE=Allover;2787034]Let me defend my fellow old guys. In the early 2000's there were far more good looking P4 P girls than today. No comparison. There were far more girls on the streets and in the bars and go gos back then which means a larger number of good to great looking ones available. Also the girls were more willing to go with older guys back then. No talk of of periods or I don't go with customers. I was 20 years younger than and it was simple to pick out the prettiest girl in a bar or go go and she would go with me. Today a lot of the hot ones prefer to just sell lady drinks.
Another difference between then and now. The older guys back then could get more of the pretty ones than they do today.[/QUOTE]I was here 20 years ago, and for me, the ladies are more or less the same. One difference is that there is more silicon now.
What you are saying is that some of the hotter girls don't go with customers, which is true, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. So, really what your point is that there are fewer hot ladies that go with customers, which is true.
The internet allows women to make money without even seeing a customer, which is really stupid, but I guess there is no lack of lonely morons with cash. So, the hotter ladies can rake in the money and support a Thai husband, which is now more common than 20 years ago.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2786856]Case in point.
As I am typing this, I show this first pic (girl in red lingerie) to a few guys around me. They all rate her in the photo as an 8 or 9. When I ask why, they just say she looks good or hot or sexy. Then I show the other 5 pics, one by one, of the SAME girl and suddenly they have a change of opinion. Make up, bra, clothing hide the truth. So that leads me to believe they don't know shit about rating girls, especially with a glance. To me, fuckable but not payable. Maybe she has to buy me dinner and a drink or two.[/QUOTE]I say 2 on a good day. Hahaha.
Not been that many time in the past, but had a few rounds in Pattaya. It's true the beach road it's a total dump now, I don't even see the Indians picking up girls there. That's a clear indication of the low quality of the girls! In the old days ( 2010), I remember some good stuff could be be found for 500 baht ST. Now zero, stay away!!
LK Metro and Bukhaow are noisy as hell, lots of gogo and bars but not my thing. Good for a stroll but I would not hang out there.
Then my beloved Soi-6, where starting 3 pm you can find all the young spinners smiling at you. Pick a bar with some hotties, have a drink to asses the options, pick a 20-something gal that I would normally see walking in the Bangkok BTS, and then fuck her for an hour upstairs. True is not easy like it was to get fresh meat in Pattaya, but a ST for 2000 baht all inclusive of drinks and room, with a young and fit 20 yo, it's still a good deal that can only be found in few places in the world (assuming the low effort required here). I know casas in Colombia, I know FKK in Germany, but where else you get this abundance of options and easy access to services?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2787073]The Pattaya area is filled with Russians, typically small families. Because Russian men are fleeing the war. Some can work online, some even have enough money to arrange a long stay visa. But most will either overstay their visa and / or run out of money.
Then you will see their girlfriends or wives working freelance. Give it a few months.[/QUOTE]Why do Russian women give such poor service in Pattaya when they gave such good service in FKKs?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2787283]Why do Russian women give such poor service in Pattaya when they gave such good service in FKKs?[/QUOTE]Its called human traffic. Trust me the "money makers" won't be dumped in a 3th world country.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2787283]Why do Russian women give such poor service in Pattaya when they gave such good service in FKKs?[/QUOTE]There are no russian women in FKK, and that since at least 10 years ago! Maybe you have been missing for a while.
[QUOTE=Martin00;2787138]I know casas in Colombia, I know FKK in Germany, but where else you get this abundance of options and easy access to services?[/QUOTE]Jakarta. Tons of young girls for cheap everywhere. Phnom Penh on a much smaller scale. I guess guys would add PI and Brazil but I haven't been.
I wouldn't exactly call Germany easy access. You need a car to get to the different FKK clubs and it's too expensive to rely on a taxi for transportation.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2787283]Why do Russian women give such poor service in Pattaya when they gave such good service in FKKs?[/QUOTE]Of course, the best service from Russia women is in Russia. I have never been stupid enough to do a Russian woman in Pattaya.
Walking around Pattaya, I can tell that High Season is slowly easing up. Bolt prices are coming back to normal, and traffic is diminishing. The ladies don't have so many customers now.
But it is still far from dead.
Latest rumor: TreeTown is going to be paved over, and condos will be built there.
[QUOTE=Martin00;2787138]Not been that many time in the past, but had a few rounds in Pattaya. It's true the beach road it's a total dump now, I don't even see the Indians picking up girls there. That's a clear indication of the low quality of the girls! In the old days ( 2010), I remember some good stuff could be be found for 500 baht ST. Now zero, stay away!!
LK Metro and Bukhaow are noisy as hell, lots of gogo and bars but not my thing. Good for a stroll but I would not hang out there.
Then my beloved Soi-6, where starting 3 pm you can find all the young spinners smiling at you. Pick a bar with some hotties, have a drink to asses the options, pick a 20-something gal that I would normally see walking in the Bangkok BTS, and then fuck her for an hour upstairs. True is not easy like it was to get fresh meat in Pattaya, but a ST for 2000 baht all inclusive of drinks and room, with a young and fit 20 yo, it's still a good deal that can only be found in few places in the world (assuming the low effort required here). I know casas in Colombia, I know FKK in Germany, but where else you get this abundance of options and easy access to services?[/QUOTE]I wanted to add a quick report. I'm in Pattaya now. Last night was my first and an a 26 yr, good body, with a fantastic attitude / catering that I know would result in a great 3 round LT that was pretty wild.
I can't compare it to the good ole days, but this place is nuts. It's options everywhere. True, no 9/10's walking around, but some of these woman can easily fit my standards. Also, TF is insane. Last night missed out a 23 yr beauty and she was right down from me on Soi Buakhao, but I had planted my flag by the time she got back to me. Might try to double back but now there's a sexy lady at a massage shop on Sai Song road or this TF masseuse. I'm waiting to be completely blown away if I do pull the trigger tonight. In my mind, I'm saying I'll take the day off but this place is tempting.
Last nights BF is blowing up my Line. Solid repeat option, but definitely not tonight. I would’ve easily spent an extra week here and cut days from others. I feel this the perfect starting point for a newbie.
[QUOTE=Martin00;2787343]There are no russian women in FKK, and that since at least 10 years ago! Maybe you have been missing for a while.[/QUOTE]I can easily detect a poster who posts on a location to which he has not been. I have been to Fkks every year from 2007 to 2020. I have sessioned Russians there every time up to 2020. What you would have read is that the number of Russians have declined significantly over the years. Guys on the ground would have banged the one or two who are there. Read my posts over the years in the FKK forum. Perhaps you could direct me to yours.
[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny2;2787567]I can't compare it to the good ole days, but this place is nuts. It's options everywhere. True, no 9/10's walking around, but some of these woman can easily fit my standards.[/QUOTE]After all these years my experience is still the same as yours. Seems like you are ready to get out of there and get back to Sosua though. I guess you can see now why I say that it is obvious that die hard Sosua people do not know other places. Not even the same ballpark.
I was just in Pattaya for a week and here are my observations.
Wow there are lots of Russian "tourists". Lots of Thai women too. It felt like a lot more than Bangkok.
Soi 6 had hundreds of the "same" type of petite 20-30's, probably averaging 6 or 7, with no real 9 or 10s. Beach Road also had hundreds of choices of a wider range, usually heavier 30-50s, averaging 4 or 5s. You did see the rare 6 or 7+ but they were taken pretty fast. By rare, I'd say you could walk the entire stretch, up and down, and have a 50/50 shot of seeing a 7. On more than one occasion, I saw someone taking a photo of the person that approached them after they didn't reach an agreement.
Walking street was pretty nice. I'd say Pin-Ups, Skyfall, and Baccara were probably the "best", with 7-8s. I stuck my head in most of the others and didn't stay. But my personal favorite was Windmills. I've got a thing for "ratchet" bars though. The women are young, having a good time, and the majority of them have it all hanging out. A lady drink buys you an absurd amount of access if you want it. I'd say the women are on par to what you'll see on Soi 6. According to a flyer in their bathroom, the bar next door for them is for sale, 3 million baht. I peeked inside and wasn't overly impressed.
I still haven't been inside one of those "Russian Girl Show" bars on Walking Street and probably never will. I saw an amusing thing though where a pair young Russian women were standing on Beach Road near Walking Street. A group of Indian guys approached and propositioned them. The women were instantly offended because said they were tourists. The guys were instantly offended because they were just asking.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2787629]I can easily detect a poster who posts on a location to which he has not been. I have been to Fkks every year from 2007 to 2020. I have sessioned Russians there every time up to 2020. What you would have read is that the number of Russians have declined significantly over the years. Guys on the ground would have banged the one or two who are there. Read my posts over the years in the FKK forum. Perhaps you could direct me to yours.[/QUOTE]I don't have posts about FKK but trust me I've been a lot. All right, among the 90% from Romania, the rest can be from Bulgaria, Albania, the odd German frau and some rare Italian / Spanish and Russian. I'd say Russian is less than 1%, is that enough to say "there are Russians in FKK"?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2787384]Jakarta. Tons of young girls for cheap everywhere. Phnom Penh on a much smaller scale. I guess guys would add PI and Brazil but I haven't been.
I wouldn't exactly call Germany easy access. You need a car to get to the different FKK clubs and it's too expensive to rely on a taxi for transportation.[/QUOTE]I meant easy access to girls! Easy to find, in short.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2787419]
Latest rumor: TreeTown is going to be paved over, and condos will be built there.[/QUOTE]I hope this is true I hate that fucking place.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2787793]I hope this is true I hate that fucking place.[/QUOTE]I heard that years ago must be old?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2787660]After all these years my experience is still the same as yours. Seems like you are ready to get out of there and get back to Sosua though. I guess you can see now why I say that it is obvious that die hard Sosua people do not know other places. Not even the same ballpark.[/QUOTE]Yeah, Mr. E, so sad for them. Many are stuck in nostalgia. It took me 3 for the last time trips (LOL) there to never go again. I haven't been in about 5 years and that trip was dreadful compared to my earliest experiences. I saw a couple YouTubes and would never deal with that BS.
I like Pattaya because there are more brown complexion Thai's and they seem to be more cool. I would love to meet some on these mongers in person who have these beauty standards. I'm just as picky as the next man and I'm certain I can screw as much as I want AND be happy with my choice.
[QUOTE=Martin00;2787685]I don't have posts about FKK but trust me I've been a lot. All right, among the 90% from Romania, the rest can be from Bulgaria, Albania, the odd German frau and some rare Italian / Spanish and Russian. I'd say Russian is less than 1%, is that enough to say "there are Russians in FKK"?[/QUOTE]Just quoting you from your last post: "There are no russian women in FKK, and that since at least 10 years ago!. ".
I lost a night.
I had 2 MILFs at my condo to drink tequila in the early afternoon. After a couple of hours, they were naked, and feeling good. The rest of the day is a blur, lots of pussy licking, more drinking, and then I woke up the next day. I guess I didn't go out last night.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2786845]
I am at the point where it's.
1. fuckable.
2. not fuckable.
3. pay.
4. not pay.[/QUOTE]I agree with this.
The rating system [B] can [/B]be employed usefully as a shorthand method for gauging talent in a very, very broad sense- but I think everyone can agree it's highly subjective and should not be mistaken for empirical data. The fact that there are so many arguments over it proves this point. The only thing that the rating system tells me with any certainty, is that the monger in question thinks "X" girl is a 8,9, etc. As a first principle, it indicates more about the perceptions of the monger than the qualitative observations that are supposedly embedded within it.
A chat forum completely conceals the identity, visual cues and information that we all need to process to help us consider the value of the source (poster). It would be much different if everyone was required to post an avatar of their actual self and along with that crucial information about who they are- age, income, fitness, etc. You would read posts in a much different way and bias their descriptions and ratings of women against how [B]you[/B] perceived their sexual market value. Without this information you need to take all these posts with a grain of salt. Not only that- but it's also good to retain a healthy amount of skepticism in a general sense- there is a lot of embellishment, fabulism, outright lies and deliberate misinformation that ends up on an anonymous chat forum.
The decile rating system was very popular in the Red Pill community, and still is in the Incel community:
[URL]https://incels.wiki/w/Decile[/URL]
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2788106]
A chat forum completely conceals the identity, visual cues and information that we all need to process to help us consider the value of the source (poster). It would be much different if everyone was required to post an avatar of their actual self and along with that crucial information about who they are- age, income, fitness, etc. You would read posts in a much different way and bias their descriptions and ratings of women against how [B]you[/B] perceived their sexual market value. Without this information you need to take all these posts with a grain of salt. Not only that- but it's also good to retain a healthy amount of skepticism in a general sense- there is a lot of embellishment, fabulism, outright lies and deliberate misinformation that ends up on an anonymous chat forum.[/QUOTE]Indeed. The grain of salt is that pictures are rarely posted. I don't mean that we should post pics of girls without permission, or of ourselves, just stating the point.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2786845]I get the personal, relative, and subjective part. But when I ask "what is the scale based on," seems nobody has an answer. Like the dude that said he saw an 8 on BR, Japanese anime look alike or whatever. How did he come to that's an 8? Did he see under clothes? What if there is a dick? Then where are the 1-7's, if that's an 8? What's difference between a 1 and 2? Or 1. 5? Basically, I think they just make up these ratings so they can pretend they have some type of valid judgement amongst other men. Look I was able to land an 8 or 9. I know what I am talking about type ego. Yeah whatever.
I am at the point where it's.
1. fuckable.
2. not fuckable.
3. pay.
4. not pay.[/QUOTE]I could go into detail describing my 8 pt rating system (there are no 9's or 10's and any girl below a 5. 4 is unfuckable), but since I have found my new hunting ground in the Americas, I have been applying a 4 Tier system which I think describes things pretty well.
Tier 1: Are lookers, model quality, girls that most guys would consider 8* and higher on the 10 pt scale. I would simply say a Tier 1 girl is a girl whose beauty on my 1st look blows me away. No need to think about it or see who else is available. A Tier 1 gets an immediate "I want that" response from me. It's an automatic reaction to a girl's beauty, mostly her face. All I can say is I know a Tier 1 the second I spot her.
Tier 2: Are sexy, good looking, girl next door types with nice slender bodies, no baby damage, and they do not wear excessive amounts of makeup. I love Tier 2's, but they don't generate the same immediate response from me as a Tier 1. On the 10 pt scale a Tier 2 would be anywhere from a 6 to 7. 4. In other words, a really nice-looking girl.
Tier 3: Are either Tier 1 or Tier 2 girls who have somehow ruined themselves, IMHO, thanks to large, unnatural silly cones, or butt implants, or baby damage. Pretty faces / ruined bodies. No thanks.
Tier 4: Let's just say these are girls I do not want to shag regardless of the circumstances. Most girls are Tier 4.
But any kind of scale including my 4 Tier system depends on individual subjective tastes. My Tier 3 girl might easily be some else's 9++ girl or Tier 1 if we are still using my system. Photos would be very helpful in demonstrating who here has good taste and who has bad taste in girls, Ha Ha, but there is a reason why few of us post photos on this web site. It is too bad a few internet pencil dicks screwed it up for the rest of us. Rule #1 of ISG: Do not talk about the ISG to the girls. Rule #2 of ISG: Do not show the girls any ISG posted material especially photos of girls.
Walking Street.
Huge crowds every day after 8 pm.
Hilton Club closed.
Cavali Agogo and the club upstairs closed.
More Russian clubs opening daily.
As a girl tried to get a eccentric looking guy into a Russian club he ranted and berated her for about 5 minutes shouting "I hte Russia " before security tactfully walked him away.
Tantra and Moon almost empty last weekend.
LK.
Friends agogo closed.
Pulse Agogo closed and reopened under new management same same.
Kilkenny boarded shut and Vegas Agogo coming up in it's place.
[QUOTE=L00PY;2787666]I still haven't been inside one of those "Russian Girl Show" bars on Walking Street and probably never will. I saw an amusing thing though where a pair young Russian women were standing on Beach Road near Walking Street. A group of Indian guys approached and propositioned them. The women were instantly offended because said they were tourists. The guys were instantly offended because they were just asking.[/QUOTE]This made me laugh for a while hahaha well-written buddy!
A post on another forum got me thinking about this. Size based purely on estimated number of working girls employed in various capacities including online / Sugar sites. I've mongered in most of these places but not all, so some of this is a guess.
[B]Tell me where I'm wrong/right.[/B]
[B]Large and Cheap[/B]
Pattaya.
Bangkok.
Frankfurt.
Rio de Janeiro.
Sao Paolo.
Amsterdam.
[B] Large and Expensive[/B]
Dubai.
Las Vegas.
[B] Medium and Cheap[/B]
Manila.
Angeles.
Tijuana.
Medellin.
Bogota.
Mexico City.
Jakarta.
Panama City.
Phnom Penh.
[B] Medium and Expensive[/B]
Singapore.
Hong Kong.
[B] Small and Cheap[/B]
San Jose.
Jaco.
Sosua.
Kuala Lumpur.
[B] Small and Expensive[/B]
Macau.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2787793]I hope this is true I hate that fucking place.[/QUOTE]The condos are likely to be trash though. The traffic on soi bukhao, 2nd Road, and that entire area is already horrible. Imagine condo owners and cars added to the mix. It would be AWFUL to live there. It also floods like crazy there during the rainy season, they probably don't even have the sewage capacity to support that.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2788186]Walking Street.
Huge crowds every day after 8 pm.
Hilton Club closed.
Cavali Agogo and the club upstairs closed.
More Russian clubs opening daily.
As a girl tried to get a eccentric looking guy into a Russian club he ranted and berated her for about 5 minutes shouting "I hte Russia " before security tactfully walked him away.
Tantra and Moon almost empty last weekend.
LK.
Friends agogo closed.
Pulse Agogo closed and reopened under new management same same.
Kilkenny boarded shut and Vegas Agogo coming up in it's place.[/QUOTE]Sad to hear about new ownership at Pulse. Last fall it was my favorite go go in the LK area. Very good selection and atmosphere. Girls weren't pushy about drinks.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2788186]
More Russian clubs opening daily.
As a girl tried to get a eccentric looking guy into a Russian club he ranted and berated her for about 5 minutes shouting "I hte Russia " before security tactfully walked him away.
[/QUOTE]Expect more Russian women working in Pattaya over the next few months.
I only realized recently that most bargirls are sleep deprived. A lot cannot sleep when they have overnight customers (for various reasons). Another bunch have Thai boyfriends at home, and the men wake up early for work. Or the Thai men work bar and don't get home until the early morning.
Some have kids living with them, and they get up early for school.
As a result, bargirls are often more emotional and less rational than you would expect. But, no, it doesn't mean that they look forward to getting barfined early so they can get some sleep. They still want to get back to their room and their Tilac as soon as possible. But, if they are forced to spend the night, they will sleep for many hours.
Any place showing it live or with taped delay?
You forgot tier 0. That was tonight for me. A 65 year old woman at the sports bar tonight watching ufc 284 tells me she wants to fuck me. She kept flirting and wouldn't leave me alone. I wanted to throw up. She was your stereotypical desperate older woman that can't get guys to bang her anymore. She was so aggressive it was sickening to watch.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2788745]You forgot tier 0. That was tonight for me. A 65 year old woman at the sports bar tonight watching ufc 284 tells me she wants to fuck me. She kept flirting and wouldn't leave me alone. I wanted to throw up. She was your stereotypical desperate older woman that can't get guys to bang her anymore. She was so aggressive it was sickening to watch.[/QUOTE]One night after a party at university a girl asked me to escort her to her room which I did out of the goodness of my heart. She (late 20's) was tall and slim with big boobs (there were very few fat girls back then) but I did not like her face as did a ton of other guys. When we reached her room she invited me in which I refused, she then grabbed my arm and tried to pull me in LOL but I was no weakling. I often look back at that and think that I should have allowed her to rape me so I could tick that off my list.
I went to Camel Toe for a late lunch yesterday. There were a surprising number of customers there, and about 10 mostly silicon enhanced MILFs. I was just there for food, but ended up buying drinks for one of the MILFs, who gave me the rundown on the ladies, who took it up the ass, who was blowjob only, etc.
If you like busty MILFs, its probably okay for you.
There is a short time room on site, but I have never gone.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2788719]Any place showing it live or with taped delay?[/QUOTE]You are a bit late so am I! The game starts at 6:30, the best place, in my opinion, is Iris Rover inside LK metro, Superbowl is normally packed best time this day generally ALL Americans have No soccer or ping pong to have to watch. Great owners, managers, close to 20 T. V. With an American Breakfast 119, coffee juice, pancakes.
Wetherspoons down the road are not bad either. Next year's NINERS?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2788822]One night after a party at university a girl asked me to escort her to her room which I did out of the goodness of my heart. She (late 20's) was tall and slim with big boobs (there were very few fat girls back then) but I did not like her face as did a ton of other guys. When we reached her room she invited me in which I refused, she then grabbed my arm and tried to pull me in LOL but I was no weakling. I often look back at that and think that I should have allowed her to rape me so I could tick that off my list.[/QUOTE]People say it's easy for women to get laid. It isn't if you aren't halfway attractive.
Ratings are usually written about by guys living in their mother's basement.
In real life, you go to Pattaya, see a lady, and either barfine her or not. You don't assess her based on a number scale, your choices are barfine or not barfine.
Your reports should include where she works, how much you paid, and whether her performance was good.
Abstract discussions of female desireability are pointless.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2788186]Walking Street.
Huge crowds every day after 8 pm.
Hilton Club closed.
Cavali Agogo and the club upstairs closed.
More Russian clubs opening daily.
As a girl tried to get a eccentric looking guy into a Russian club he ranted and berated her for about 5 minutes shouting "I hte Russia " before security tactfully walked him away.
Tantra and Moon almost empty last weekend.
LK.
Friends agogo closed.
Pulse Agogo closed and reopened under new management same same.
Kilkenny boarded shut and Vegas Agogo coming up in it's place.[/QUOTE]As friends wasn't a gogo. It was a quasi club that got raided a few times for being open late.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2789032]Ratings are usually written about by guys living in their mother's basement.
In real life, you go to Pattaya, see a lady, and either barfine her or not. You don't assess her based on a number scale, your choices are barfine or not barfine.
Your reports should include where she works, how much you paid, and whether her performance was good.
Abstract discussions of female desireability are pointless.[/QUOTE]When you include price it's very Pointful.
1,000 baht and it becomes dreadful. Yes I know there is 1 gem out of a 1,ooo girls on Soi 6 everyday.
I know a bargirl who claims I am the only customer who fucks her, everyone else just buys her drinks. No idea if that is true, but she claims that her 19 year old Thai boy toy only allows her to go with me. Yesterday, her boy toy sent me a friend request on Facebook.
It all seems weird to me.
Another lady tells me that her Thai boyfriend doesn't want her going with any customer except me, but she can go with me as long as I want. Last year, she went to Brazil with me for 3 months.
Maybe these ladies have convinced their boyfriends that I can't fuck.
I barfined a 90's style bargirl last year.
She typified the majority of bargirls you would see 20 or 30 years ago, the classic LBFM. Kind of skinny, shy, but fucks like a mink, eager to please. You don't see many of them anymore.
It was like I invented a time machine.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2788982]I went to Camel Toe for a late lunch yesterday. There were a surprising number of customers there, and about 10 mostly silicon enhanced MILFs. I was just there for food, but ended up buying drinks for one of the MILFs, who gave me the rundown on the ladies, who took it up the ass, who was blowjob only, etc.
If you like busty MILFs, its probably okay for you.
There is a short time room on site, but I have never gone.[/QUOTE]There is no ST room on site, usually not my thing I got caught off guard a bit by the time I realized it was too late.
There is a booth area in the corner near the door they pull the curtain and off you go reason the BF is only 200 baht.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2789251]There is no ST room on site, usually not my thing I got caught off guard a bit by the time I realized it was too late.
There is a booth area in the corner near the door they pull the curtain and off you go reason the BF is only 200 baht.[/QUOTE]I am sure there is a ST room by the kitchen. But, I will check in a couple of days.
Thanks everyone who contributed their thoughts on making a night to remember in Pattaya for my buddy.
We started off with a couple beers and gummies at Tree town before we then headed to High Rollers. A lot of drinks were bought. Fair selection, fun was had and the gummies had kicked in. Headed to LK Metro into a bunch of bars, lot more fun was had, another round of gummies later, we ended up at Heave Above surrounded by 3-4 girls and a dozen or more tits! A LOT of fun was had before we stumbled back home. Alone! I'm sure I'm forgetting a few other places we went to. But that is a sign of good time being had.
Got up with a heavy head but a smile as we caught up for breakfast the next morning. Both of us had a blast but felt that Pattaya was overwhelming and is probably not something we could take on a regular basis! .
Didn't get to hit the WS recommendations you guys offered, but there is always the next time.
Cheers / Pulse.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2789273]I am sure there is a ST room by the kitchen. But, I will check in a couple of days.[/QUOTE]That would be nice unless someone was in there a long time when I was there seem to be two others majority of the ladies were sitting near the door bored. Not my thing to throw the pillows on the floor. LOL.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2789236]I know a bargirl who claims I am the only customer who fucks her, everyone else just buys her drinks. No idea if that is true, but she claims that her 19 year old Thai boy toy only allows her to go with me. Yesterday, her boy toy sent me a friend request on Facebook.
It all seems weird to me.
Another lady tells me that her Thai boyfriend doesn't want her going with any customer except me, but she can go with me as long as I want. Last year, she went to Brazil with me for 3 months.
Maybe these ladies have convinced their boyfriends that I can't fuck.[/QUOTE]Also possible they see you as nothing but a ATM. No offense.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2789251]There is no ST room on site, usually not my thing I got caught off guard a bit by the time I realized it was too late.
There is a booth area in the corner near the door they pull the curtain and off you go reason the BF is only 200 baht.[/QUOTE]Ladies Fee? Very on Point.
[QUOTE=ChaChumplin;2789387]Also possible they see you as nothing but a ATM. No offense.[/QUOTE]That's a given.
My question is about 2 Thai ladies whose Thai boyfriends are okay if I fuck them, but other customers cannot.
One lady, if she wants to go long time with a customer, tells me not to post on Facebook that night, because she tells her boyfriend that she is going with me. Yes, her boyfriend checks my Facebook.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2789363]That would be nice unless someone was in there a long time when I was there seem to be two others majority of the ladies were sitting near the door bored. Not my thing to throw the pillows on the floor. LOL.[/QUOTE]What I normally see in Camel Toe is 8 ladies with customers, and 2 or 3 ladies with no customers. Usually, those 2 or 3 ladies are gone next time I come.
[QUOTE=ChaChumplin;2789390]Ladies Fee? Very on Point.[/QUOTE]1000 Full service.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2788998]People say it's easy for women to get laid. It isn't if you aren't halfway attractive.[/QUOTE]That same girl who almost raped me ended up going steady with a guy who was not unattractive at all. I would say that it is more difficult for an unattractive man without money to get laid than an unattractive woman.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2789432]That same girl who almost raped me ended up going steady with a guy who was not unattractive at all. I would say that it is more difficult for an unattractive man without money to get laid than an unattractive woman.[/QUOTE]A low income unattractive man with game and low standards can get laid if he is young tall fit. Even if it is a fling with Miss Piggy BBW.
You guys concerned about rating ladies ignore one important factor: performance. Some MILFs are super fucks, whereas lots of younger ladies are dead fish in bed.
I have one MILF come to my condo who has a fetish for dick and balls sucking / playing / ripping. She will go down there and give me a prostate massage while sucking my dick indefinitely, I always have to stop her so that I can finish in her pussy.
Kinda messes up the vibe a little. Have not seen this in other countries.
Walked into Atlantis Agogo last Saturday 930 pm and I was the only guy and 12 girls. Even the outside bouncers were Agogo girls.
Friend Agogo will open after renovation.
Nothing special for Valentine day except for balloons at the entrance.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2789737]Why do Agogo and Soi 6 girls wear two underwears while dancing?[/QUOTE]Cause too many Cheap Charlie's try to finger them for free.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2789898]Cause too many Cheap Charlie's try to finger them for free.[/QUOTE]Slippage upon slippage. Can be embarrassing when they bend over.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2789582]You guys concerned about rating ladies ignore one important factor: performance. Some MILFs are super fucks, whereas lots of younger ladies are dead fish in bed.
I have one MILF come to my condo who has a fetish for dick and balls sucking / playing / ripping. She will go down there and give me a prostate massage while sucking my dick indefinitely, I always have to stop her so that I can finish in her pussy.[/QUOTE]No no no.
I'm pretty sure ratings apply only to ones Attractive -ness.
Again, a girl is Paid by looks not performance.
I feel sad for the Rich Old Thai guys who like to enjoy the 18 year young hotties from Agogo and Soi 6 or even enjoying drinking in Agogos.
They live here and are not allowed. Very frustrating.
Also since they look very similar to other Asian orientals, how does the doorman know to stop them.
They are a mix of all age groups and genders.
Are they allowed in Agogos? They will fill up the whole place!
Where do they stay?
Do they pick up girls?
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2789737]Kinda messes up the vibe a little. Have not seen this in other countries.[/QUOTE]Not all of them wear two panties. It also may depend on the style of the outfit. The tame girls may wear two panties. The wild ones will usually wear only one.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2788579]A post on another forum got me thinking about this. Size based purely on estimated number of working girls employed in various capacities including online / Sugar sites. I've mongered in most of these places but not all, so some of this is a guess....[/QUOTE]I can only speak of the places I have been.
[B]Large and Cheap[/B]
Pattaya.
Yes cheap sex but no culture. It is just a place for drinking and fucking. What do you do with the other hours?
Bangkok.
Yes cheap sex, one of my favorite places to go. Ladies with specialties (anal, GS) are easy to find. Affordable nice hotels. There has been a downturn in the night scene since covid that has not returned. I miss the buzz of a lot of people in the streets of Nana and Asok at 2 am. I do enjoy the days with minimal tourists though.
Frankfurt.
Yes, one of my favorite places to go. Ladies with specialties (anal, GS) are easy to find. Affordable nice hotels. The Frankfurt RLD is a little seady (I only go in the daytime) but the rest of the town is cool. Easy, cheap train ride to Paris and Berlin if you book early enough.
[B] Large and Expensive[/B]
Las Vegas.
There are some good places to stay that are not expensive. Very sexy hotels. My swinging wife says that "Vegas is a fake sex place. The only sex to be had in Vegas is with the woman you bring with you. " She is entirely correct. That said, my wife's record is 15 guys in one night at the Green Door.
[B] Medium and Expensive[/B]
Hong Kong.
I don't agree. I think it is relatively cheap especially if you monger on Kowloon. The hotels are hard to find and sort of overpriced. (Have not been back since the crackdown.) There are women in apts all over Sham Shui Po who are beautiful and sweet and cheap. Temple St has SWs who are from the mainland and sexy. ($25-$40) The old ladies sitting on stools on Temple are the brothel owners of places upstairs with $10-$15 fuck and sucks with sexy Thai, Indian and Chinese women.
[B] Small and Cheap[/B]
Siem Reap.
I would add Siem Reap. The hotels are ridiculously cheap. Some are in the middle range but high end. The sex is $30-$50 and Cambodian women are sweet and pretty and enjoy good sex, usually not kinky but that is because they are insanely shy.
I would suggest freelancers. The brothels gave me a bad vibe, like family debt servitude was the motivator. Haggy mamas-sans yelling at you "$50!" and when you walk away the price instantly drops but with attitude. The women were nice but left me feeling guilty.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2790071]I feel sad for the Rich Old Thai guys who like to enjoy the 18 year young hotties from Agogo and Soi 6 or even enjoying drinking in Agogos.
[/QUOTE]Rich thai men not need to waste their time in WS and soi6, they have their clubs with better / hotter looking girls.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2790075]They are a mix of all age groups and genders.
Are they allowed in Agogos? They will fill up the whole place!
Where do they stay?
Do they pick up girls?[/QUOTE]What do you care? Really why you wondering where they stay or if they pick up girls?
You say "Rich Thai men not need to waste their time in WS and soi6, they have their clubs with better / hotter looking girls."
Enlighten me if you really know which clubs the Rich Thai men have. Else ignore my message. Thanks for the feedback.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2790071]I feel sad for the Rich Old Thai guys who like to enjoy the 18 year young hotties from Agogo and Soi 6 or even enjoying drinking in Agogos..[/QUOTE]Thai guys don't hobby in the tourist area that most guys know as Pattaya. In fact, many bars in the tourist area (aka blue baht bus route) don't allow Thai men into their bars. There are many many Thai bars, discos, massage and karaoke joints where the Thai men go. Very young pretty girls pre-COVID but most don't speak or barely speak English. I say pre-COVID because I haven't been to any post-COVID.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2789737]Kinda messes up the vibe a little. Have not seen this in other countries.[/QUOTE]Very common in Philippines bars. But totally agree on the vibe killing effect!
This guy parks his yellow lamborghini on beach road at opportunistic times and must be a player. I changed my approach to the night ladies of coconut bar by asking them "do you want to go with me in my car? - while pointing to it. " Of course only the pointing was communicated but whatever. Call me jealous. But I am truly honored that someone who has the big bucks prefers to walk on beach road at night.
Other observations of my past month here: NightWish Group on Soy 6 - my strategy was to stay away from all of them this trip. And boy was I wrong!! Ended up being Soy 6 saved my entire holiday since they are PROFESSIONALLY run and in my opinion Consistent. Big FUCK YOU to the staff at Wild Things Bar - "Wild Things Bar" Soy 6 - next to The Corner Bar and HollyWood. This is a clip joint. Worst experience ever. I made the same mistake by being forced in and slammed lady drinks. I was drunk. But remembered from video's this place was suppose to be cool. I might be stupid drunk but I remember how I am treated. And so off to Real Soy 6 bars I went along with my Baht. I was the only customer both times and the 2 ladies drank as fast as a Tijuana hooker in HK / Adilitas does. Never will I enter their premises. Very shady. Out 2 K Baht in under 4 minutes. Ok now the good stuff!
HollyWood Bar, Mods Bar, Red Point, Where Angels Fly? NW Group. Very very good experiences. While Drunk, sober or in-between. I am happy to buy lady drinks in moderation. And then consider the up-sell. Good atmosphere too. Red Point's rooms upstairs were Nice!
BBFS CIP. The most important thing for me. Still not easy or offered up front much but still obtainable.
Met some guys who insisted I go to Kink. Told them I am not into the big glamourous bars. Much preferer open bars- said I would love it. Well I went to Kink alone. Not knowing about upstairs until I left. Then came back and went upstairs in Kink and I see why a lot of guys would like to see pussy fingering shows and a touchy feelie bath shower setup. Just not for me. Give me Soy 6 and BeachRoad at night.
Russians are Coming! So many Russians in Pattaya now! Must be due to the wars?
Hemingways has good Pasta.
Who is the Psychotic Woman, 35 +/- short hair on a Bike who yells and screams at the massage places on Soy Honey Every morning? Is this a religious Repent / sinner expression? I am for sure you guys who are there now also see AND HEAR her. Just curious:
Went to Billabong and the LK Metro outside bars and Rock Factory to chill and recover after Soy 6 - good strategy.
Soy 7 - man these ladies got hit by the ugly stick WTF happened to Hedonism? - Hook Up Corner was okay for a few drinks.
Maggy Mays. Sorry couldn't do it. That area on pothole smells bad and I didn't get a good vibe.
Dressing well. Long sleeved collared shirt and Smiling like a game show host. I tried this strategy and fuckk me jebus. Yes it marginally works. Especially on Beach Road. Met a nice sales lady from a mall who was recently fired. We discussed business, using google translate and cosmetics. She wants to open a shop. Of course my lessons mean more boom boom as it turned a short time from beach road into a long time multiple pop day. But I think dressing well. Which someone else noted here. Does seem to work!
I said NO! To Indian Tailored Suits, horoscope. Lottery, Rolex Watches, bracelets, and especially condoms.
This trip Soy 6 was the clear winner -.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2790075]They are a mix of all age groups and genders.
Are they allowed in Agogos? They will fill up the whole place!
Where do they stay?
Do they pick up girls?[/QUOTE]Your questions are so funny. I don't know how to answer them.
Just ignore them and do your thing.
Why make things complicated?
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2790075]They are a mix of all age groups and genders.
Are they allowed in Agogos? They will fill up the whole place!
Where do they stay?
Do they pick up girls?[/QUOTE]I have not seen a Follow the Flag group in Pattaya since Covid.
But, if they are back, they don't go onto gogos. These are typically lower income types, no English, don't get out much.
For the record: I speak from personal experience: I once joined a Chinese tour group, we did Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand over 10 days, $99 cost excluding airfare. Yes, I followed the flag.
Camel Toe update:
The former short time room has been converted into a seating area, 4 booths with curtains.
I had 2 ladies over to my condo yesterday. No interaction between them, but it was still fun. I will leave out the details, except after a large amount of tequila was consumed, they got naked on my sofa, and I did them individually and together.
2000 baht per lady. They were happy, and I was happy.
BTW, I had one lady come to my condo, we went to some bars, and she picked the second lady.
I did you guys a favor last night.
At one point in the evening, while I was on the sofa with 2 ladies, one of them was trying to give me a half assed hand job. The other lady told her that she didn't know what she was doing, and proceeded to show her one technique she had learned from me, to use one hand to put pressure below my balls, sort of a prostate massage. The other lady tried it, and hopefully will do that with you some day.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2790071]I feel sad for the Rich Old Thai guys who like to enjoy the 18 year young hotties from Agogo and Soi 6 or even enjoying drinking in Agogos.
They live here and are not allowed. Very frustrating.
Also since they look very similar to other Asian orientals, how does the doorman know to stop them.[/QUOTE]Thai man don't look anything like Japan, Sin, Hkg, Taiwan, Indian, Arab. Haha.
I'm rich rich are fine they get pick of the Litter.
[QUOTE=GentileBear;2790208]
HollyWood Bar, Mods Bar, Red Point, Where Angels Fly? NW Group. Very very good experiences. While Drunk, sober or in-between. I am happy to buy lady drinks in moderation. And then consider the up-sell. Good atmosphere too. Red Point's rooms upstairs were Nice![/QUOTE]I doubt RedPoint is Nightwish group. Mods bar is for sure, two others I don't know.
I am not a Pattaya newbie. I have visited most of the agogos in Walking Street and LK Metro. But I usually drink on my own and buy a few lady drinks here and there and go back to my room and sleep alone. So I have very little barfine experience. Maybe then, that does make me a newbie.
This happened towards the end of last year, year 2022, when there were no restrictions to enter Thailand. Did I get scammed by the mamasan on the second day? Hell yeah, I did.
Here it goes. I'm on Day 6 of my 7-Day trip to Pattaya. I've had zero boom boom this trip. Since I've made it so far, I might as well make it 7 days no boom boom. Around 10 pm of Day 6, I end up in an obscure alley. I see a few hotties standing outside. I'm thinking let's check out the talent inside. There is a stage in the middle of this small bar, but there are only 3 girls dancing on the stage. To me, that is not an agogo. Maybe it's a hybrid bar. I'm looking to my left watching a girl at the end of the stage. As my turn my head slowly to the right, I realize there are two people standing in front of me, a little to my right. One of them is the mamasan, and she points to the girl standing next to her. Standing in front of me is a very pretty young girl, very slim and white-skinned, just how I like them. But she looks very young, maybe too young. She reminds me of the K-POP or J-POP idol members. She might be ethnically Chinese since her skin is so white. I motion her to sit next to me and she does so. I will call the girl Panda. Now, it looks like I won't make it to Day 7 no boom boom.
I ask Panda one or two questions in English and each time she replies in Thai. Great. She speaks zero English and I have no idea what she is saying. I whip out my cellphone and open the translate app. I phrase the question so that she can just answer yes or no because her cellphone is probably in her locker.
"Can you go barfine longtime?" "Yes".
"How much is the barfine?" No answer.
"Is 2 boom boom ok?" "Yes. ".
"Until what time can you stay?" (I show her my watch. She points to 6 o'clock. 6 am.).
"How old are you?" (She motions a two and a zero.).
"How much money for you?" "3,000 baht" (This she can say in English.).
A little red flag is raised in my head. While 3,000 Baht sounds reasonable for longtime, I do not believe that the mamasan will let this beautiful girl fresh from the province go for 3,000 Baht. I ask the girl one more important question.
"Do you have a Thai national ID card?" "No. ".
That is just fantastic. I have a young Thai girl fresh from the province who speaks zero English and she cannot prove her age or identity. So I might make it to Day 7 no boom boom after all. In the past, I would have given up right then and there. But nowadays, I am more persistent. The saying, "Where there is a will, there is a way. " actually works if you adopt it and truly believe in it.
I call the mamasan and ask how much for the girl longtime. She says 2,000 Baht barfine and 5,000 baht for the girl. That's what I suspected all along. I tell the mamasan the girl has no ID card. The mamasan is surprised and says, "Then you no longtime. You go upstairs shorttime. " WTF. I tell the mamasan, "It's ok. I longtime her. " The mamasan is surprised again. She must think I'm crazy.
But now, I'm fucked. I went from just having a relaxing beer to barfining a girl longtime. No English. No ID card. How am I going to get her into my hotel room? My hotel is very strict about the ID policy.
The mamasan calls the waiter over and the waiter writes on the back of the bill. 2,000 barfine + 5,000 for the girl + about 500 for drinks. Total about 7,500 Baht upfront. I say, "Hell no. I will pay for the barfine and the drinks now. I will give her 5,000 Baht in the hotel after boom boom. " They are not happy. The mamasan asks the girl if it's ok with her. Many deadbeats in Pattaya. I'm not one of them, but they do not know me. The girl says ok. The mamasan is surprised for the third time this night.
So the girl Panda changes into her outside clothes and we leave the bar. Outside her co-workers are stunned to see her get barfined. Then, it hits me. Yes, I'm slow. This is Panda's first day at work and I'm her first ever barfine. That is why Panda knows nothing about the rates. And the mamasan has no idea Panda does not have a Thai national ID card.
Now, Panda has her cellphone in her hand. I ask her again her age because to me she looks borderline illegal. Now, she says she's 19 years old. Ha! I knew it. So the mamasan probably told her to lie about her age. Many guys balk when they hear the girl's age is something-teen.
We go to get a late night meal first. Of course, she is texting someone. I'm facing the entrance to the restaurant and I see a ladyboy standing outside. And he is staring at us. Panda says, "Wait" She heads over to the ladyboy. They talk a little. Maybe Panda gives the ladyboy something like money or house keys. Panda returns a minute later. I don't bother to ask. I don't want to know. I just want to fuck her tonight. Like Enrique Iglesias sings, "Tonight, I'm fucking you. ".
I ask Panda about her ID card again. Then she shows me what looks like a student ID card from her handbag. I check the date of birth on the card. WTF! It says she is born in year 2004. It's now end of year 2022 past her birthday. That means according to her ID card, she is 18 years old. WTF! I barfined a Thai girl who becomes younger by one year every thirty minutes. In another thirty minutes, she's going to be 17 years old. Now, I'm really fucked!
I remember in 2019 before Covid. I was in Windmill Club. And the waitress was trying to pimp out her younger sister who also looked very young and spoke no English. I asked the waitress how old she is. She says her sister is 19. I ask is 19 ok? She says 19 is ok. 18 no ok. That is what she said at the time.
Outside the restaurant, Panda keeps saying, "Passport. Passport. " I ask her, "Do you have a passport?" The passport issued by the Thai government should sort out this mess for once and for all. I check the DOB on the passport. WTF! It also says she is born in year 2004. So she really is 18 years old. But Panda keeps insisting that the student ID and the passport are both wrong. She says she is born in year 2003, which would make her 19. Now, I'm fucked big time. I consider taking her back to her bar, or shop, as they like to say. How can the passport be wrong? Could it be a fake passport? I hear Bangkok is the mecca of fake ID's and documents.
As we are walking back to my hotel, I'm formulating a devious plan in my head. Bribe the security guard 500 Baht. Have him distract or make the front desk lady leave the desk. And Panda and I sneak in quietly. I have my room key with me so I do not need the front desk lady's help. I don't think the front desk lady is bendable. She might be bendable in other ways, if you get my drift.
I change my mind about the bribery and I say, "Fuck it. Let's just use her passport. " Panda and I walk straight up to the front desk. I give the front desk lady Panda's passport. She actually gives me a mischievous smile. I think she is surprised that I bring a girl to my room. She takes the passport but doesn't even open it and just says good night.
Now, I'm happy and worried at the same time. Maybe I'll get to fuck Panda tonight. But I kind of wanted the front desk lady to stop me in my tracks and yell, "You NO fuck 18 year old Thai girl tonight! You crazy? You want to go Thai prison?
After shower, Panda and I are both lying on the bed. I tell her I want a blowjob. She complies. Her blowjob is pretty good. Better than some of the 25 year old bargirls. (Later, I would get the idea that the ladyboy taught her how to give head. Maybe Panda even practices it on the ladyboy every night.) Panda says, "Condom. " Don't worry baby. I always use condom.
I put the condom on and take a look at her pussy. Her shaven pussy looks so small. I don't think I can get it in. And I'm not a big guy. I get it about halfway in. After a few thrusts, my dick comes out. I can't get it in all the way. I've had 19 year old girls before. But none of them had a pussy this tiny and this tight. Panda is still growing physically. After two years of daily barfines and further physical growth, her pussy won't be that tiny and tight anymore. I try to get it in again. This time I use more force. Panda moans a little half in pain, half in pleasure. Now, it's all the way in. I get on top of her chest to chest and starting pumping away. By now, the front desk lady would have opened Panda's passport and seen that Panda is only 18 years old. She is going to call the police. And while my pecker is embedded deep inside her pussy pounding away, the SWAT team from the Royal Thai Police is going to smashed the door in without warning. The point SWAT member is going to shoot me in the ass with a rubber pellet. (Well, it better be a rubber pellet, rather than real ammo.) And off I go to the Bangkok Hilton for the next ten years. Thank you mamasan for making me Jeffrey Epstein for the night. I'm not into the Jeffrey Epstein thing. But I get it. It feels like fucking a virgin. The tiny and tight hairless pussy that resists penetration, with the potential tabooness and all. (Is tabooness a word?) Like I said, it's my first boom boom of this trip so I do not last long. The tight pussy probably helped as well. I go to the shower and wash off. We say good night and doze off for a few hours.
As I awake, I see that Panda is not sleeping and just looking at me. Time for boom boom number 2? I think she read my mind. Panda immediately grabs my cock and it becomes hard right away. I put a condom on and try to enter her again. Again, I have trouble entering her. It goes halfway in and a few seconds later comes out again. After three or four tries, I manage to get it in. Unfortunately, I can never come twice in one night. I don't get to fuck very often. So whenever I get the chance to fuck, I fuck too hard and I end up with pelvic pain. So after about 20 minutes of pounding, I stop. It hurts. Although I do not come, for me, it is one of the best fucks ever.
It's almost 6 am. Time for Panda to go home. I want her to go also. I like getting breakfast alone early at 7 am. I walk her to her room on Soi Buakhao. It is not far from my hotel. Outside her door, I probably make a fatal mistake. I tell her to wait for me tonight. She nods a yes. Almost 100% of the communication is done via google translate.
TO BE CONTINUED in PART 2.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2790238]I have not seen a Follow the Flag group in Pattaya since Covid.
But, if they are back, they don't go onto gogos. These are typically lower income types, no English, don't get out much.[/QUOTE]Yes, Thais call them Zero Dollar tours which means Thailand makes no money on them. Since Thailand is looking for big spenders they nuked these tours. Wonder if they're allowed again with Thailand seeking tourists.
I used to follow these flag tour groups as they walked around Walking Street taking photos like the tour group does. If one of the groups had a pretty girl I used to choose her to walk with. They don't speak English. Since I'm fairly recognized on Walking Street all the gogo girls used to roll their eyes at me whenever I did this.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2790320]I doubt RedPoint is Nightwish group. Mods bar is for sure, two others I don't know.[/QUOTE]Where Angels Fly is definitely a Nightwish Bar. I'm pretty sure Hollywood is not.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2790320]I doubt RedPoint is Nightwish group. Mods bar is for sure, two others I don't know.[/QUOTE]Yeah you are right. I originally posted a BRACKET for Nightwish Group just for Angeles Fly Bar. But the ISG software didn't let me post BRACKETS.
RedPoint Bar was my favorite SOY 6 bar by the way. Nice big ass couches, sexy upstairs rooms with good beds newer tile showers and most importantly. Ladies with good attitude and open minds and legs. Spent a lot of Baht here.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2790358]I am not a Pattaya newbie. I have visited most of the agogos in Walking Street and LK Metro. But I usually drink on my own and buy a few lady drinks here and there and go back to my room and sleep alone. So I have very little barfine experience. Maybe then, that does make me a newbie.
This happened towards the end of last year, year 2022, when there were no restrictions to enter Thailand. Did I get scammed by the mamasan on the second day? Hell yeah, I did.
Here it goes. I'm on Day 6 of my 7-Day trip to Pattaya. I've had zero boom boom this trip. Since I've made it so far, I might as well make it 7 days no boom boom. Around 10 pm of Day 6, I end up in an obscure alley. I see a few hotties standing outside. I'm thinking let's check out the talent inside. There is a stage in the middle of this small bar, but there are only 3 girls dancing on the stage. To me, that is not an agogo. Maybe it's a hybrid bar. I'm looking to my left watching a girl at the end of the stage. As my turn my head slowly to the right, I realize there are two people standing in front of me, a little to my right. One of them is the mamasan, and she points to the girl standing next to her. Standing in front of me is a very pretty young girl, very slim and white-skinned, just how I like them. But she looks very young, maybe too young. She reminds me of the K-POP or J-POP idol members. She might be ethnically Chinese since her skin is so white. I motion her to sit next to me and she does so. I will call the girl Panda. Now, it looks like I won't make it to Day 7 no boom boom.
I ask Panda one or two questions in English and each time she replies in Thai. Great. She speaks zero English and I have no idea what she is saying. I whip out my cellphone and open the translate app. I phrase the question so that she can just answer yes or no because her cellphone is probably in her locker.
"Can you go barfine longtime?" "Yes".
"How much is the barfine?" No answer.
"Is 2 boom boom ok?" "Yes. ".
"Until what time can you stay?" (I show her my watch. She points to 6 o'clock. 6 am.).
"How old are you?" (She motions a two and a zero.).
"How much money for you?" "3,000 baht" (This she can say in English.).
A little red flag is raised in my head. While 3,000 Baht sounds reasonable for longtime, I do not believe that the mamasan will let this beautiful girl fresh from the province go for 3,000 Baht. I ask the girl one more important question.
"Do you have a Thai national ID card?" "No. ".
That is just fantastic. I have a young Thai girl fresh from the province who speaks zero English and she cannot prove her age or identity. So I might make it to Day 7 no boom boom after all. In the past, I would have given up right then and there. But nowadays, I am more persistent. The saying, "Where there is a will, there is a way. " actually works if you adopt it and truly believe in it.
I call the mamasan and ask how much for the girl longtime. She says 2,000 Baht barfine and 5,000 baht for the girl. That's what I suspected all along. I tell the mamasan the girl has no ID card. The mamasan is surprised and says, "Then you no longtime. You go upstairs shorttime. " WTF. I tell the mamasan, "It's ok. I longtime her. " The mamasan is surprised again. She must think I'm crazy.
But now, I'm fucked. I went from just having a relaxing beer to barfining a girl longtime. No English. No ID card. How am I going to get her into my hotel room? My hotel is very strict about the ID policy.
The mamasan calls the waiter over and the waiter writes on the back of the bill. 2,000 barfine + 5,000 for the girl + about 500 for drinks. Total about 7,500 Baht upfront. I say, "Hell no. I will pay for the barfine and the drinks now. I will give her 5,000 Baht in the hotel after boom boom. " They are not happy. The mamasan asks the girl if it's ok with her. Many deadbeats in Pattaya. I'm not one of them, but they do not know me. The girl says ok. The mamasan is surprised for the third time this night.
So the girl Panda changes into her outside clothes and we leave the bar. Outside her co-workers are stunned to see her get barfined. Then, it hits me. Yes, I'm slow. This is Panda's first day at work and I'm her first ever barfine. That is why Panda knows nothing about the rates. And the mamasan has no idea Panda does not have a Thai national ID card.
Now, Panda has her cellphone in her hand. I ask her again her age because to me she looks borderline illegal. Now, she says she's 19 years old. Ha! I knew it. So the mamasan probably told her to lie about her age. Many guys balk when they hear the girl's age is something-teen.
We go to get a late night meal first. Of course, she is texting someone. I'm facing the entrance to the restaurant and I see a ladyboy standing outside. And he is staring at us. Panda says, "Wait" She heads over to the ladyboy. They talk a little. Maybe Panda gives the ladyboy something like money or house keys. Panda returns a minute later. I don't bother to ask. I don't want to know. I just want to fuck her tonight. Like Enrique Iglesias sings, "Tonight, I'm fucking you. ".
I ask Panda about her ID card again. Then she shows me what looks like a student ID card from her handbag. I check the date of birth on the card. WTF! It says she is born in year 2004. It's now end of year 2022 past her birthday. That means according to her ID card, she is 18 years old. WTF! I barfined a Thai girl who becomes younger by one year every thirty minutes. In another thirty minutes, she's going to be 17 years old. Now, I'm really fucked!
I remember in 2019 before Covid. I was in Windmill Club. And the waitress was trying to pimp out her younger sister who also looked very young and spoke no English. I asked the waitress how old she is. She says her sister is 19. I ask is 19 ok? She says 19 is ok. 18 no ok. That is what she said at the time.
Outside the restaurant, Panda keeps saying, "Passport. Passport. " I ask her, "Do you have a passport?" The passport issued by the Thai government should sort out this mess for once and for all. I check the DOB on the passport. WTF! It also says she is born in year 2004. So she really is 18 years old. But Panda keeps insisting that the student ID and the passport are both wrong. She says she is born in year 2003, which would make her 19. Now, I'm fucked big time. I consider taking her back to her bar, or shop, as they like to say. How can the passport be wrong? Could it be a fake passport? I hear Bangkok is the mecca of fake ID's and documents.
As we are walking back to my hotel, I'm formulating a devious plan in my head. Bribe the security guard 500 Baht. Have him distract or make the front desk lady leave the desk. And Panda and I sneak in quietly. I have my room key with me so I do not need the front desk lady's help. I don't think the front desk lady is bendable. She might be bendable in other ways, if you get my drift.
I change my mind about the bribery and I say, "Fuck it. Let's just use her passport. " Panda and I walk straight up to the front desk. I give the front desk lady Panda's passport. She actually gives me a mischievous smile. I think she is surprised that I bring a girl to my room. She takes the passport but doesn't even open it and just says good night.
Now, I'm happy and worried at the same time. Maybe I'll get to fuck Panda tonight. But I kind of wanted the front desk lady to stop me in my tracks and yell, "You NO fuck 18 year old Thai girl tonight! You crazy? You want to go Thai prison?
After shower, Panda and I are both lying on the bed. I tell her I want a blowjob. She complies. Her blowjob is pretty good. Better than some of the 25 year old bargirls. (Later, I would get the idea that the ladyboy taught her how to give head. Maybe Panda even practices it on the ladyboy every night.) Panda says, "Condom. " Don't worry baby. I always use condom.
I put the condom on and take a look at her pussy. Her shaven pussy looks so small. I don't think I can get it in. And I'm not a big guy. I get it about halfway in. After a few thrusts, my dick comes out. I can't get it in all the way. I've had 19 year old girls before. But none of them had a pussy this tiny and this tight. Panda is still growing physically. After two years of daily barfines and further physical growth, her pussy won't be that tiny and tight anymore. I try to get it in again. This time I use more force. Panda moans a little half in pain, half in pleasure. Now, it's all the way in. I get on top of her chest to chest and starting pumping away. By now, the front desk lady would have opened Panda's passport and seen that Panda is only 18 years old. She is going to call the police. And while my pecker is embedded deep inside her pussy pounding away, the SWAT team from the Royal Thai Police is going to smashed the door in without warning. The point SWAT member is going to shoot me in the ass with a rubber pellet. (Well, it better be a rubber pellet, rather than real ammo.) And off I go to the Bangkok Hilton for the next ten years. Thank you mamasan for making me Jeffrey Epstein for the night. I'm not into the Jeffrey Epstein thing. But I get it. It feels like fucking a virgin. The tiny and tight hairless pussy that resists penetration, with the potential tabooness and all. (Is tabooness a word?) Like I said, it's my first boom boom of this trip so I do not last long. The tight pussy probably helped as well. I go to the shower and wash off. We say good night and doze off for a few hours.
As I awake, I see that Panda is not sleeping and just looking at me. Time for boom boom number 2? I think she read my mind. Panda immediately grabs my cock and it becomes hard right away. I put a condom on and try to enter her again. Again, I have trouble entering her. It goes halfway in and a few seconds later comes out again. After three or four tries, I manage to get it in. Unfortunately, I can never come twice in one night. I don't get to fuck very often. So whenever I get the chance to fuck, I fuck too hard and I end up with pelvic pain. So after about 20 minutes of pounding, I stop. It hurts. Although I do not come, for me, it is one of the best fucks ever.
It's almost 6 am. Time for Panda to go home. I want her to go also. I like getting breakfast alone early at 7 am. I walk her to her room on Soi Buakhao. It is not far from my hotel. Outside her door, I probably make a fatal mistake. I tell her to wait for me tonight. She nods a yes. Almost 100% of the communication is done via google translate.
TO BE CONTINUED in PART 2.[/QUOTE]The age of consent in Thailand is 18.
In fact, ladies who are 18 or 19 can work bar, they just can't drink alcohol.
One of the ladies in my rotation told me why she can't work in a BJ bar: if she has more than one customer in a shift, her jaw hurts.
Because she can't give a quick BJ. Once she has a dick in front of her, she will play with it indefinitely.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2790476]Yes, Thais call them Zero Dollar tours which means Thailand makes no money on them. Since Thailand is looking for big spenders they nuked these tours. Wonder if they're allowed again with Thailand seeking tourists.
I used to follow these flag tour groups as they walked around Walking Street taking photos like the tour group does. If one of the groups had a pretty girl I used to choose her to walk with. They don't speak English. Since I'm fairly recognized on Walking Street all the gogo girls used to roll their eyes at me whenever I did this.[/QUOTE]Thailand did not stop Zero Dollar Tours, they were halted by the Chinese government in response to Covid. Chinese groups were prohibited from leaving China, regardless of destination.
It is unclear whether there is infrastructure in place to resume Zero Dollar Tours.
I should note that Chinese groups often attended the 69 sex show in Naklua, so some Thais made baht off Chinese groups.
[QUOTE=Allover;2790480]Where Angels Fly is definitely a Nightwish Bar. I'm pretty sure Hollywood is not.[/QUOTE]Hollywood is not a Nightwish bar, it's owned by two Australian guys, nor is Red point. Nightwish bars all look the same with a boilerplate of an open bar, single sized and same layout, you can see their branding in all the bars. This open to the street format has turned much of Soi 6 into a late afternoon drinking street instead of the afternoon location for fun.
[QUOTE=Downandup;2790654]Hollywood is not a Nightwish bar, it's owned by two Australian guys, nor is Red point. Nightwish bars all look the same with a boilerplate of an open bar, single sized and same layout, you can see their branding in all the bars. This open to the street format has turned much of Soi 6 into a late afternoon drinking street instead of the afternoon location for fun.[/QUOTE]Question. Should I be avoiding Nightwish Group bars altogether?
Returned to Patts after covid shit, first few beers to chill and jet lag. Not into mentioning names but 3 different bars quoted 1600 lady plus 400 room rate. Is this the new trend?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2790238]I have not seen a Follow the Flag group in Pattaya since Covid.
But, if they are back, they don't go onto gogos. These are typically lower income types, no English, don't get out much.
For the record: I speak from personal experience: I once joined a Chinese tour group, we did Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand over 10 days, $99 cost excluding airfare. Yes, I followed the flag.[/QUOTE]$99 includes everything!! Room Board Food Flight for 10 days! No way!
To answer your other question. The many Chinese flag tours in walking street since last week.
Last week I saw a totally handicapped person in his wheelchair. And the wheelchair was lodged on a bigger version of golf cart. Parked halfway in Soi 6 street.
He was with his wingman.
Both of them had two Soi 6 girls sitting in the golf cart drinking beers👍.
And doing naughty things.
In the middle of the street.
[QUOTE=GentileBear;2790208]This guy parks his yellow lamborghini on beach road at opportunistic times and must be a player. I changed my approach to the night ladies of coconut bar by asking them "do you want to go with me in my car? - while pointing to it. " Of course only the pointing was communicated but whatever. Call me jealous. But I am truly honored that someone who has the big bucks prefers to walk on beach road at night.
Other observations of my past month here: NightWish Group on Soy 6 - my strategy was to stay away from all of them this trip. And boy was I wrong!! Ended up being Soy 6 saved my entire holiday since they are PROFESSIONALLY run and in my opinion Consistent. Big FUCK YOU to the staff at Wild Things Bar - "Wild Things Bar" Soy 6 - next to The Corner Bar and HollyWood. This is a clip joint. Worst experience ever. I made the same mistake by being forced in and slammed lady drinks. I was drunk. But remembered from video's this place was suppose to be cool. I might be stupid drunk but I remember how I am treated. And so off to Real Soy 6 bars I went along with my Baht. I was the only customer both times and the 2 ladies drank as fast as a Tijuana hooker in HK / Adilitas does. Never will I enter their premises. Very shady. Out 2 K Baht in under 4 minutes. Ok now the good stuff!
HollyWood Bar, Mods Bar, Red Point, Where Angels Fly? NW Group. Very very good experiences. While Drunk, sober or in-between. I am happy to buy lady drinks in moderation. And then consider the up-sell. Good atmosphere too. Red Point's rooms upstairs were Nice!
BBFS CIP. The most important thing for me. Still not easy or offered up front much but still obtainable.
Met some guys who insisted I go to Kink. Told them I am not into the big glamourous bars. Much preferer open bars- said I would love it. Well I went to Kink alone. Not knowing about upstairs until I left. Then came back and went upstairs in Kink and I see why a lot of guys would like to see pussy fingering shows and a touchy feelie bath shower setup. Just not for me. Give me Soy 6 and BeachRoad at night.
Russians are Coming! So many Russians in Pattaya now! Must be due to the wars?
Hemingways has good Pasta.
Who is the Psychotic Woman, 35 +/- short hair on a Bike who yells and screams at the massage places on Soy Honey Every morning? Is this a religious Repent / sinner expression? I am for sure you guys who are there now also see AND HEAR her. Just curious:
Went to Billabong and the LK Metro outside bars and Rock Factory to chill and recover after Soy 6 - good strategy.
Soy 7 - man these ladies got hit by the ugly stick WTF happened to Hedonism? - Hook Up Corner was okay for a few drinks.
Maggy Mays. Sorry couldn't do it. That area on pothole smells bad and I didn't get a good vibe.
Dressing well. Long sleeved collared shirt and Smiling like a game show host. I tried this strategy and fuckk me jebus. Yes it marginally works. Especially on Beach Road. Met a nice sales lady from a mall who was recently fired. We discussed business, using google translate and cosmetics. She wants to open a shop. Of course my lessons mean more boom boom as it turned a short time from beach road into a long time multiple pop day. But I think dressing well. Which someone else noted here. Does seem to work!
I said NO! To Indian Tailored Suits, horoscope. Lottery, Rolex Watches, bracelets, and especially condoms.
This trip Soy 6 was the clear winner -.[/QUOTE]I have seen that Lamborghini.
It probably belongs to a owner of a establishment on other side of the street. Not a monger.
BTW I have also seen a glamorous car turned into a boom box with amazing speakers everywhere including the seats and the trunk.
And star studded lights on every inch of the car.
He parks the car on the side of the Beach Road and when he plays music all the girls are dancing.
He had to drive away when some moron from a nearby hotel complain to the police.
That the noise is not letting him sleep at 9 o'clock at night.
Glad you mentioned Tijuana. Do you think pink or windmill can hold a candle to even a small section of Hong Kong🤣.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2790358]..I check the DOB on the passport. WTF! It also says she is born in year 2004. So she really is 18 years old. But Panda keeps insisting that the student ID and the passport are both wrong. She says she is born in year 2003, which would make her 19. Now, I'm fucked big time. I consider taking her back to her bar, or shop, as they like to say. How can the passport be wrong? Could it be a fake passport? I hear Bangkok is the mecca of fake ID's and documents...[/QUOTE]I remember when I visited VN a local told me that they count age different there. They add one more year to their age as if on the date of their birth they are already 1 year old. Maybe that's similiar to what they do in TH. That was a few decades ago not sure if that's what's going on or she's just trying to trick you LOL But yea like the other guy said content age is 18 so you should be good.
[QUOTE=Bugzy69;2790715]Returned to Patts after covid shit, first few beers to chill and jet lag. Not into mentioning names but 3 different bars quoted 1600 lady plus 400 room rate. Is this the new trend?[/QUOTE]555 is a new trend only with guys who drop their panties and accept these prices. Why not mentiong name of these bars so everybody can avoid it? Soi6 is 1000 + room fee.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2790663]Question. Should I be avoiding Nightwish Group bars altogether?[/QUOTE]No. I appologize my post was Spastic because it was my posts on Discord and then I added more to make it a trip report.
I was happy with Nightwish Group. Also they take credit cards and some of the bars have Slots for the ladies to put their phones into so as to give US the attention we are paying for. You see. Some ladies don't get it. We are not interested in watching them eat black cock-roaches, run across the street to a Dress and high heels street vendor or text their ladyboy friends when WE are paying for expensive ladydrinks. I noticed that NightWish group bars seem to always have a manager who keeps them in check. That being said, things change. And my previous trips I had more luck in beer bars near Tree Town. Since Soy6 is one big street. I would start on the Pizza restaurant side. Where the Sweedish man has a nice little place, and head north trying to find the ladies who peak your interest. I go by Vibe and how sweet she seems to be then after a LD ask her if she wants to boom boom. Not a perfect scrience. But I'll tell you what. When you are BEGGED to buy LDs and BEGGED to buy the waitress a LD in the first 30 seconds like the Wild Things Bar - that's a huge turn-off and red flag. I noticed that the Nightwish bar girls do not immediately BEG for LDs upfront. - just my 2 cents.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2790716]$99 includes everything!! Room Board Food Flight for 10 days! No way!
To answer your other question. The many Chinese flag tours in walking street since last week.[/QUOTE]Yes, way. Excluding airfare. I toured many parts of China via $99 dollar tours, then another tour of Indochina, including Thailand.
However, anyone who has taken one will recount the dreaded shopping stops, where everyone is subjected to classic Chinese marketing. Many on the tour would spend hundreds of dollars on crazy stuff. The only thing I ever bought were silk sheets, which are on my bed now.
On the tour, we woke at 6 am, and the day would end about 8 pm. That gave me time for a quick trip to Soi 6.
[QUOTE=Bugzy69;2790715]Returned to Patts after covid shit, first few beers to chill and jet lag. Not into mentioning names but 3 different bars quoted 1600 lady plus 400 room rate. Is this the new trend?[/QUOTE]I never ask the girl's price when I take a girl to the room at Soi 6. When I'm done I give the girl 1000. The only price I enquire about beforehand is of course the room price as this needs to be paid for upfront. The room price varies between 300 and 400. The 300-baht rooms in some bars are not necessarily worst, in fact they can be better than 400-baht rooms in other bars. Bars with lousy rooms (broken mattress, no mirrors, weak aircon) are something to watch out for and avoid IMO. A lousy room can ruin a session just as much as a girl's bad attitude.
It's still busy in Pattaya. The streets are jammed at night, Bolt takes forever to show up, and I get relatively few lady requests to come to my condo. And occasional cancellations.
Things won't slow down until after Songkran.
[QUOTE=Pulse0101;2789309]
We started off with a couple beers and gummies at Tree town before we then headed to High Rollers.[/QUOTE]Excuse my ignorance, but what are gummies?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2790581]The age of consent in Thailand is 18.
In fact, ladies who are 18 or 19 can work bar, they just can't drink alcohol.[/QUOTE]Actually, the age of consent in Thailand is 15.
But you're right they have to be 18 to work in a bar.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2790946]Actually, the age of consent in Thailand is 15.
But you're right they have to be 18 to work in a bar.[/QUOTE]Thailand statutory rape law is violated when an individual has consensual sexual intercourse with a person under age 15. However, sex with a minor under age 18 is a compoundable offense, regardless of consent.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2790946]Actually, the age of consent in Thailand is 15.
But you're right they have to be 18 to work in a bar.[/QUOTE]Irrespective of a country's age of consent, whether it be 12,15, 17, etc. , as far as interpol are concerned the age of consent is 18 for foreign nationals. That is why girls need to be 18 to work in bars. Having sexual relations with a girl under 18 will most certainly result in being prosecuted even if she gives consent.
[QUOTE=Python75;2790959]Irrespective of a country's age of consent, whether it be 12,15, 17, etc. , as far as interpol are concerned the age of consent is 18 for foreign nationals. That is why girls need to be 18 to work in bars. Having sexual relations with a girl under 18 will most certainly result in being prosecuted even if she gives consent.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. A 17 year old is a minor in most countries including Thailand.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2790663]Question. Should I be avoiding Nightwish Group bars altogether?[/QUOTE]That's up to you, you can still find girls to go with but you have to watch out for the drink only girls.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2790946]Actually, the age of consent in Thailand is 15.
But you're right they have to be 18 to work in a bar.[/QUOTE]In USA (and probably thailand) marijuana edibles are very popular, the most popular are probably the gummy candies. Pretty sure that's what he meant.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2790644]Thailand did not stop Zero Dollar Tours, they were halted by the Chinese government in response to Covid. Chinese groups were prohibited from leaving China, regardless of destination.
It is unclear whether there is infrastructure in place to resume Zero Dollar Tours.
I should note that Chinese groups often attended the 69 sex show in Naklua, so some Thais made baht off Chinese groups.[/QUOTE]China halting group tours has nothing to do with Zero Dollar packages, they just stopped all outbound package tours due to covid.
It was actually Thai govermnent that cracked down the bulk of these tours couple of years earlier already, I recall 2017 or even 2016.
I recall there was even some court cases around this without any convictions as nothing directly illegal.
Stopped mainly done by freezeing the OA Transport bus company that had 2000-3000 buses for this, effectively the main enabler for the system.
Stop that and confiscate the buses and voila can not do any more. Where those buses are now, I have no idea. Probably in some parking lots around Bangkok.
Sure someone has seen them unless sold out to some other country. White buses with OA painted on sides.
However even if still ready for operation, unlikely Thai govt will allow this biz o resume due cashflow going directly back to China.
Went to Paradise Agogo Saturday night and it was fun! The girl with black dress always. Who always does the splits. Was doing her thing on stage. Any feedback on her?
Girls had two underwear and two bras (one is padding).
There was some lavish cookout event at lady love Agogo.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2790994]China halting group tours has nothing to do with Zero Dollar packages, they just stopped all outbound package tours due to covid.
It was actually Thai govermnent that cracked down the bulk of these tours couple of years earlier already, I recall 2017 or even 2016.
I recall there was even some court cases around this without any convictions as nothing directly illegal.
Stopped mainly done by freezeing the OA Transport bus company that had 2000-3000 buses for this, effectively the main enabler for the system.
Stop that and confiscate the buses and voila can not do any more. Where those buses are now, I have no idea. Probably in some parking lots around Bangkok.
Sure someone has seen them unless sold out to some other country. White buses with OA painted on sides.
However even if still ready for operation, unlikely Thai govt will allow this biz o resume due cashflow going directly back to China.[/QUOTE]As of last week, Chinese tours are in full swing. Can't miss them. Can't avoid these Freight Trains.
Right now there is some Indian movie shooting in progress on street by Fahrenheit gogo.
A guy is working on wearing a harness or a vest.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2790663]Question. Should I be avoiding Nightwish Group bars altogether?[/QUOTE]They are the worst plague that happened in soi6, they completely ruined the soi and spoiled the girls.
If you want to fuck a girl in a nightwish bar, just take her upstair for 1000 + room fee and not spend money in drinks.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2790994]China halting group tours has nothing to do with Zero Dollar packages, they just stopped all outbound package tours due to covid.
It was actually Thai govermnent that cracked down the bulk of these tours couple of years earlier already, I recall 2017 or even 2016.
I recall there was even some court cases around this without any convictions as nothing directly illegal.
Stopped mainly done by freezeing the OA Transport bus company that had 2000-3000 buses for this, effectively the main enabler for the system.
Stop that and confiscate the buses and voila can not do any more. Where those buses are now, I have no idea. Probably in some parking lots around Bangkok.
Sure someone has seen them unless sold out to some other country. White buses with OA painted on sides.
However even if still ready for operation, unlikely Thai govt will allow this biz o resume due cashflow going directly back to China.[/QUOTE]I recall the Follow the Flag tours continued right up to the Chinese ban, and then petered out over the next week, as the tours finished. Despite Covid, there were still some tours in Pattaya in the week that followed the ban. Then, Walking Street was empty.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2791004]They are the worst plague that happened in soi6, they completely ruined the soi and spoiled the girls.
If you want to fuck a girl in a nightwish bar, just take her upstair for 1000 + room fee and not spend money in drinks.[/QUOTE]I have no idea why you would not want there to be such ST bars.
I don't go to Soi 6, but I appreciate there being such an option.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2791004]They are the worst plague that happened in soi6, they completely ruined the soi and spoiled the girls.
If you want to fuck a girl in a nightwish bar, just take her upstair for 1000 + room fee and not spend money in drinks.[/QUOTE]My undercover operative was able to intercept this Nightwish Group internal memo that was apparently sent to all staff members. This is the auto translate app version. The original text was in Thai.
Barfine is now 2,000 Baht if you take out the girl early.
The rest is self-explanatory.
However, I do not understand the last part regarding short-time. But it looks like they are seriously putting mileage on the girls. And 50 bucks should be 50 Baht.
[QUOTE=Python75;2790959]Irrespective of a country's age of consent, whether it be 12,15, 17, etc. , as far as interpol are concerned the age of consent is 18 for foreign nationals. That is why girls need to be 18 to work in bars. Having sexual relations with a girl under 18 will most certainly result in being prosecuted even if she gives consent.[/QUOTE]I know. And it's not just Interpol, but many countries have laws that forbid their citizens to have sexual relations abroad with people under 18, no matter what the age of consent in their home country is.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2790952]Thailand statutory rape law is violated when an individual has consensual sexual intercourse with a person under age 15. However, sex with a minor under age 18 is a compoundable offense, regardless of consent.[/QUOTE]I suppose the latter does not apply to people who both are under 18, and at least 15?
[QUOTE=XXL;2790881].... Bars with lousy rooms (broken mattress, no mirrors, weak aircon) are something to watch out for and avoid IMO. A lousy room can ruin a session just as much as a girl's bad attitude.[/QUOTE]Which do you prefer, a girl with good service in a lousy room or a girl with lousy service in a luxurious room?
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2790945]Excuse my ignorance, but what are gummies?[/QUOTE]Gummies are edible marijuana in the shape and form of a gummy candy.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2791029]I suppose the latter does not apply to people who both are under 18, and at least 15?[/QUOTE]Technically, it is also not ok. But it becomes a case where both parties can file charges against each other and it would become a circus. Anyway, the Thais do it all the time in the provinces and it is never prosecuted although the law exists.
Thailand also does not have a Romeo and Juliet law, but that law applies to when at least one of the parties is under the age of consent. You would want to have this law if you were a 16 year old Thai boy wanting to fuck a 14 year old Thai girl. (I guess it doesn't have to be boy / girl.).
[QUOTE=Turgid;2791050]Which do you prefer, a girl with good service in a lousy room or a girl with lousy service in a luxurious room?[/QUOTE]I can't have sex on the 2nd floor of a Thailand bar with no AC. I also can't have sex on a mattress with springs sticking out of them. Yes, I have experienced both. Same as I can't have sex at Oase in one of those closets beside the hot tub or at Sharks when the AC is broken in the Summer, which ime was often. If I'm paying a bar a barfine to use their room I expect a serviceable room. I also expect the bar to take some pride and fire girls that are lousy but we know that rarely happens.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2790945]Excuse my ignorance, but what are gummies?[/QUOTE]Gummie Bear candies filled with THC the active drug in cannabis aka Marijuana. Very popular in USA states where recreational marijuana is legal. No smoke smell and get high with body buzz for hours.
Heading to Pattaya tomorrow just for the BEEJESUS of it.
One week at Red Planet is $126 per its own website. That tells me no way can Pattaya be that busy. No offense to the fella who says Patts is still packed.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2791006]I recall the Follow the Flag tours continued right up to the Chinese ban, and then petered out over the next week, as the tours finished. Despite Covid, there were still some tours in Pattaya in the week that followed the ban. Then, Walking Street was empty.[/QUOTE]Flag tours yes, but not the 'Zero Dollar Tours' that were largely cracked down, though not 100% probably, but the major operators. Chinese tours groups always go following the flagman / lady, with their group colour caps on, even in China on domestic tours. The ZDT was a scamming business model that govt simply had to crack down, rightfully so. That ZTD model was actually a direct copy what they used to do in China for domestic group tours as well when I was living there, not sure if still the model or locally cracked as well. Mass market holiday group travel was at it's infancy there at the time.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2790999]As of last week, Chinese tours are in full swing. Can't miss them. Can't avoid these Freight Trains.[/QUOTE]And they have not even properly started yet, wait for another month or two when the things are up and running in full in China again, and WS will be full of these trains following their flags.
If you into WS during early hours, better enjoy now before they are back to full swing.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2791011]However, I do not understand the last part regarding short-time. But it looks like they are seriously putting mileage on the girls. And 50 bucks should be 50 Baht.[/QUOTE]Looks like girls get 50 baht of the 400 room fee / BF for ST upstairs, and 100 of the 800 BF if you take her out for 2 hrs, not into the room.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2791011]My undercover operative was able to intercept this Nightwish Group internal memo that was apparently sent to all staff members. This is the auto translate app version. The original text was in Thai.
Barfine is now 2,000 Baht if you take out the girl early.
The rest is self-explanatory.
However, I do not understand the last part regarding short-time. But it looks like they are seriously putting mileage on the girls. And 50 bucks should be 50 Baht.[/QUOTE]IMHO Soi 6 has been going downhill since they appeared on the scene and started buying bars. It used to be a fairly quiet soi with no open bars or loud music. Gals would sit outside and wait for customers to take them in and have a drink and a shag. It opened about 2:00 pm And was over pretty much right after the sun went down. It was nice and low-key with lots of gems to be found.
Now, no thanks.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2791011]My undercover operative was able to intercept this Nightwish Group internal memo that was apparently sent to all staff members. This is the auto translate app version. The original text was in Thai.
Barfine is now 2,000 Baht if you take out the girl early.
The rest is self-explanatory.
However, I do not understand the last part regarding short-time. But it looks like they are seriously putting mileage on the girls. And 50 bucks should be 50 Baht.[/QUOTE]Makes sense. Maybe Mr Flowers wants a higher quality Bargirl. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2791169]Looks like girls get 50 baht of the 400 room fee / BF for ST upstairs, and 100 of the 800 BF if you take her out for 2 hrs, not into the room.[/QUOTE]Thanks. It makes sense now.
If not Soy 6 then where? I am somewhat tech savvy but admittingly not patient. I have used Thai Friendly and Tinder in past trips and here is what happens:
Me. Hello, I am near LK Metro. Would love to meet you now!
Girl on Tinder: Hi.
Me. Can you come to my hotel?
Girl on Tinder: Hi.
Me. Meet me? Yes.
Girl on Tinder: Hi.
Me. Are you wanting shot time?
Girl on Tinder: shot tym.
Me- short time. I want to meet you.
Girl on Tinder: Hi.
I am not even exaggerating. I did try using a translator but it didn't really help. Plus. After confirming a date. Then who knows if they will be within an hour of their stated arrival. Total disaster! Walking Street has psychotic prices and the Big clubs by LK Metro are. Meh. And overpriced.
-I have had success with apps on Jakarta and Angeles City but it doesn't work for me in Pattaya. I travel alone and so far Beach Road and Soy 6 work. I 'd be willing to try a new Soy if anyone cares to post.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2791174]IMHO Soi 6 has been going downhill since they appeared on the scene and started buying bars. It used to be a fairly quiet soi with no open bars or loud music. Gals would sit outside and wait for customers to take them in and have a drink and a shag. It opened about 2:00 pm And was over pretty much right after the sun went down. It was nice and low-key with lots of gems to be found.
Now, no thanks.[/QUOTE]Then, the Bryan Flowers guy single-handedly destroyed all of Soi 6? How did he do that? Is he that rich and powerful?
[QUOTE=ChaChumplin;2791151]Heading to Pattaya tomorrow just for the BEEJESUS of it.
One week at Red Planet is $126 per its own website. That tells me no way can Pattaya be that busy. No offense to the fella who says Patts is still packed.[/QUOTE]LK The Empress on Beach Rd shows up at 11k Baht a night! In October I still got it at 2k Baht a night.
A lady upfront sitting. At a table is actively recruiting.
Couple of girls from dollhouse took a bunch of fliers from her.
Also saw a girl from Moon gogo wearing bypass gogo wardrobe. Never heard of bypass gogo!
Opposite jannat club. For 100 b. They will place 4 very active snakes with fangs. On you. All four at the same time.
I followed a flagged China tour last night and am alive to talk about it!
Their guide gave a lecture outside champion Thai boxing club on walking street.
Then they were all seated in chairs.
Guide then asked them a question and a few hands went up (including the old ladies).
I was guessing What the tour guide ask?
Who wants to get in the ring? Who wants to use toilet??
I was Not sure. But I soon understood as about 8 bottled beers were served in a group of about 20. Not bad.
Then the boxers did a meet and greet and clapping ensured.
They spent about half an hour there and were then escorted through the marine club area to reserved baht buses.
I gave up the pursuit there.
[QUOTE=GentileBear;2791215]If not Soy 6 then where? I am somewhat tech savvy but admittingly not patient. I have used Thai Friendly and Tinder in past trips and here is what happens:
..........
I am not even exaggerating. I did try using a translator but it didn't really help. Plus. After confirming a date. Then who knows if they will be within an hour of their stated arrival. Total disaster! Walking Street has psychotic prices and the Big clubs by LK Metro are. Meh. And overpriced.
-I have had success with apps on Jakarta and Angeles City but it doesn't work for me in Pattaya. I travel alone and so far Beach Road and Soy 6 work. I 'd be willing to try a new Soy if anyone cares to post.[/QUOTE]Yes for Thailand the translators are big support. In Line or DIA itself have translation service. For chatting I paste my words in Thai by the help from translator. The dating Apps are always great source for me to meet girls. Relatively low cost and a short time Girl Friends. Just need patience and time to let the girl feel comfort with me.
[QUOTE=XXL;2791251]LK The Empress on Beach Rd shows up at 11k Baht a night! In October I still got it at 2k Baht a night.[/QUOTE]LK The Empress is $84 for a studio on Expedia.
But, yes, Pattaya is very busy now.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2791149]I can't have sex on the 2nd floor of a Thailand bar with no AC. I also can't have sex on a mattress with springs sticking out of them. Yes, I have experienced both. Same as I can't have sex at Oase in one of those closets beside the hot tub or at Sharks when the AC is broken in the Summer, which ime was often. If I'm paying a bar a barfine to use their room I expect a serviceable room. I also expect the bar to take some pride and fire girls that are lousy but we know that rarely happens.[/QUOTE]I have not had sex on the 2nd floor of a Thailand bar with no AC but I have experienced sex at Oase in one of those closets beside the hot tub and at Sharks when the AC is broken in the summer, with hot young girls with both of us soaking wet with sweat and me climaxing with a huge smile on my face. No bad service girls in any circumstance please.
[QUOTE=GentileBear;2791215]If not Soy 6 then where? I am somewhat tech savvy but admittingly not patient. I have used Thai Friendly and Tinder in past trips and here is what happens:
Me. Hello, I am near LK Metro. Would love to meet you now!
Girl on Tinder: Hi.
Me. Can you come to my hotel?[/QUOTE]You are speaking too much English. Just try saying "when you come see me."
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2791263]A lady upfront sitting. At a table is actively recruiting.
Couple of girls from dollhouse took a bunch of fliers from her.
Also saw a girl from Moon gogo wearing bypass gogo wardrobe. Never heard of bypass gogo![/QUOTE]I believe Moon Agogo was called Bypass agogo before.
[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2790742]I remember when I visited VN a local told me that they count age different there. They add one more year to their age as if on the date of their birth they are already 1 year old. Maybe that's similiar to what they do in TH. That was a few decades ago not sure if that's what's going on or she's just trying to trick you LOL But yea like the other guy said content age is 18 so you should be good.[/QUOTE]That is somewhat correct as far as thais are concerned. When asked what their age is, most thai in my experience will answer with the age they will be on their coming birthday, and probably that was the reason for the confusion. So if a girl answers you she is 18, either you could be in trouble, or she could be aware that westerners expect her to answer the age she celebrated on her last birthday, rather than what she will celebrate on her next.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2791216]Then, the Bryan Flowers guy single-handedly destroyed all of Soi 6? How did he do that? Is he that rich and powerful?[/QUOTE]These two pics have been posted on facebook by one of their recruiters a few days ago.
You can count 18 bars from the same group in a single soi.
Easy to understand how much they affect the whole soi when they have so many bars. And some other bars from their group are not even featured on these pics because they didn't reopen yet (like "the pussy club "bar for example).
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2791216]Then, the Bryan Flowers guy single-handedly destroyed all of Soi 6? How did he do that? Is he that rich and powerful?[/QUOTE]It's definitely gotten a lot worse since the introduction of all the open facing bars and a lot of their bars are full of groups of their BMs just drinking for ages with the hottest girls with no intention of taking them ST.
Also smart phones are to blame for the demise of mongering in Pattaya bars in general. The girls no longer are desperate to f*ck for money as they get idiots sending them money from abroad without any physical contact.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2791403]It's definitely gotten a lot worse since the introduction of all the open facing bars and a lot of their bars are full of groups of their BMs just drinking for ages with the hottest girls with no intention of taking them ST.
Also smart phones are to blame for the demise of mongering in Pattaya bars in general. The girls no longer are desperate to f*ck for money as they get idiots sending them money from abroad without any physical contact.[/QUOTE]It's not as if there aren't literally 1000's of other bars in other areas in the event that you can't cope with Soi 6.
And, without smart phones, I could not keep in touch with the dozens of young ladies who regularly entertain me.
But, yes, the morons who send money for nothing are negatively impacting Pattaya, since the recipient ladies don't have to do anything to earn money for their Thai boyfriends.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2791403]It's definitely gotten a lot worse since the introduction of all the open facing bars and a lot of their bars are full of groups of their BMs just drinking for ages with the hottest girls with no intention of taking them ST.
Also smart phones are to blame for the demise of mongering in Pattaya bars in general. The girls no longer are desperate to f*ck for money as they get idiots sending them money from abroad without any physical contact.[/QUOTE]What does BM mean?
I took one for the team yesterday, I had my regular massage lady over for drinks, and invited another lady. After everyone was blitzed, they took off my shorts, and then the massage lady demonstrated the male pressure points for prostate massage. So, now, another lady in Pattaya knows about prostate massage, which is a very good thing for you.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2791403]It's definitely gotten a lot worse since the introduction of all the open facing bars and a lot of their bars are full of groups of their BMs just drinking for ages with the hottest girls with no intention of taking them ST.
Also smart phones are to blame for the demise of mongering in Pattaya bars in general. The girls no longer are desperate to f*ck for money as they get idiots sending them money from abroad without any physical contact.[/QUOTE]What is a BM?
Also, I think Covid ruined the mongering scene with the live streams. The girls now know they can still make a lot of money from just drinks. I hear there are many drinks-only girls nowadays. Whereas before Covid, that was rare.
Desire on Soi 6 and Sexy Bar are still doing the live streams on Youtube and guys are still sending them drinks online. And it looks like they'll keep doing the live streams forever, or as long as guys are sending drinks.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2791352]That is somewhat correct as far as thais are concerned. When asked what their age is, most thai in my experience will answer with the age they will be on their coming birthday, and probably that was the reason for the confusion. So if a girl answers you she is 18, either you could be in trouble, or she could be aware that westerners expect her to answer the age she celebrated on her last birthday, rather than what she will celebrate on her next.[/QUOTE]That makes sense now. One time in LK Metro, I asked a girl her age. She said she was 23. But then when I checked her ID, she was only 22, three months before her 23rd birthday.
So Panda was really 18 at the time.
This girl at Kawaii Bar on Soi 6 seems to be crazy. I entered the bar and she followed me and asked what I wanted. When she brought my beer, she slammed it on the table, gave me a dirty look and left. I think it was her way of telling me, "Don't even try to barfine me. I'm not interested. " I believe she was waiting for her regular barfine customer that night.
I managed to get her name. Her name is Wan. My dick wants to fuck her. But my brain says she will be a nightmare to deal with.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2791330]You are speaking too much English. Just try saying "when you come see me."[/QUOTE]Correct, many forget whatever translation they are using keep it very simple less than a sentence, and don't assume because they speak a bit of English you can speak to them as if they are doing each day on their own!
For example, " meet me at Soi? Across the Soi in front of Gold Lampost " Sound simple right but what the hell is a Gold Lampost you leaving it up to them because you think they speak a bit of English?
Unless they attended a real International School which in the P4 P is zero in general I mean slim and none. Just because they don't ask means they understand the culture in general asking questions means you are stupid.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2791490]This girl at Kawaii Bar on Soi 6 seems to be crazy. I entered the bar and she followed me and asked what I wanted. When she brought my beer, she slammed it on the table, gave me a dirty look and left. I think it was her way of telling me, "Don't even try to barfine me. I'm not interested. " I believe she was waiting for her regular barfine customer that night.
I managed to get her name. Her name is Wan. My dick wants to fuck her. But my brain says she will be a nightmare to deal with.[/QUOTE]You did it wrong if you wanted to fuck her. When you ordered your drink you ask her to order one for herself too. You didn't do that which is why she came back all pissed. I'm assuming you pulled her in to the bar with you or she was the girl you made puppy dog eyes with to get her to join you. Sure you don't have to buy a girl a drink at bars in Soi 6 but be prepared to lose pretty ones if you don't buy her a drink. She had no regular coming. If she did she would have been sitting at the back of her bar eating som tam.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2791565]You did it wrong if you wanted to fuck her. When you ordered your drink you ask her to order one for herself too. You didn't do that which is why she came back all pissed. I'm assuming you pulled her in to the bar with you or she was the girl you made puppy dog eyes with to get her to join you. Sure you don't have to buy a girl a drink at bars in Soi 6 but be prepared to lose pretty ones if you don't buy her a drink. She had no regular coming. If she did she would have been sitting at the back of her bar eating som tam.[/QUOTE]While I probably should have bought her a drink regardless, I still believe that she was in a hurry to go to the front of the bar to welcome whomever she was waiting for. In my experience, they will sit or stand with you if they have nothing better to do. But you are the Pattaya expert.
Who is into grannies there is one at LE Poste BJ bar on soi lengkee. Not so much lookers in there and I left after a 90 baht singha bottle. This grannie age like 70 years old or equivalent. While entering they all greet you like parish church choir in one voice of welcome sir LOL.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2791490] I think it was her way of telling me, "Don't even try to barfine me. I'm not interested. " I believe she was waiting for her regular barfine customer that night.
I managed to get her name. Her name is Wan. My dick wants to fuck her. But my brain says she will be a nightmare to deal with.[/QUOTE]She wouldn't have followed you if she was not interested.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2791490]When she brought my beer, she slammed it on the table, gave me a dirty look and left. I think it was her way of telling me, "Don't even try to barfine me. I'm not interested. " I believe she was waiting for her regular barfine customer that night.[/QUOTE]Why think and believe when you could have just asked?
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2791482]That makes sense now. One time in LK Metro, I asked a girl her age. She said she was 23. But then when I checked her ID, she was only 22, three months before her 23rd birthday.
So Panda was really 18 at the time.[/QUOTE]It's more simple to understand than that.
Thais when born are 1 year old.
Every birthday they add a year.
Essentially they are saying they are in their "nth" year, not that they have completed "and" years since birth.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2791479]What is a BM?
Also, I think Covid ruined the mongering scene with the live streams. The girls now know they can still make a lot of money from just drinks. I hear there are many drinks-only girls nowadays. Whereas before Covid, that was rare.
Desire on Soi 6 and Sexy Bar are still doing the live streams on Youtube and guys are still sending them drinks online. And it looks like they'll keep doing the live streams forever, or as long as guys are sending drinks.[/QUOTE]BM aka Best Mates.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2791565]You did it wrong if you wanted to fuck her. When you ordered your drink you ask her to order one for herself too. You didn't do that which is why she came back all pissed. I'm assuming you pulled her in to the bar with you or she was the girl you made puppy dog eyes with to get her to join you. Sure you don't have to buy a girl a drink at bars in Soi 6 but be prepared to lose pretty ones if you don't buy her a drink. She had no regular coming. If she did she would have been sitting at the back of her bar eating som tam.[/QUOTE]So is always a customer fail? why you assuming what you can't know? I really don't understand these arguments. These girls should start to learn how to behave and earn their ladydrinks! Next time when she bring a beer to a customer, she can sit next to him and start to rubbing his cock and ask if he want a ST or if he want drink together.
Anyway is not my problem, I not go to soi6 for drinks. Only straight upstair for ST with girls who accept my offers. IMHO guys should always talk with girls outside the bar before enter.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2791479]What is a BM?
Also, I think Covid ruined the mongering scene with the live streams. The girls now know they can still make a lot of money from just drinks. I hear there are many drinks-only girls nowadays. Whereas before Covid, that was rare.
Desire on Soi 6 and Sexy Bar are still doing the live streams on Youtube and guys are still sending them drinks online. And it looks like they'll keep doing the live streams forever, or as long as guys are sending drinks.[/QUOTE]Desire Bar. Number 8 Priew is mega Hot.
Sexy Bar. Lots of women who are built like Oxen. Lots meaning all. Hahaha.
My gut tells me online isn't killing Pattaya. If it were more Bars would be streaming.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2791641]So is always a customer fail? why you assuming what you can't know? I really don't understand these arguments. These girls should start to learn how to behave and earn their ladydrinks! Next time when she bring a beer to a customer, she can sit next to him and start to rubbing his cock and ask if he want a ST or if he want drink together.
Anyway is not my problem, I not go to soi6 for drinks. Only straight upstair for ST with girls who accept my offers. IMHO guys should always talk with girls outside the bar before enter.[/QUOTE]It's cool. I don't think it was my fault. But I don't mind getting feedback from other members. I like your two suggestions. Going straight upstairs for ST and talking to the girls outside before entering the bar.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2791641]Anyway is not my problem, I not go to soi6 for drinks. Only straight upstair for ST with girls who accept my offers. IMHO guys should always talk with girls outside the bar before enter.[/QUOTE]I do not feel sorry because men always do it to themselves then have the nerve to complain. No way going to pick up a hooker should be the subject of so much pondering and debate. You arrive with money and she is there with pussy. Pay the chick and go fuck for god sake. The shit is not complicated.
1st impressed.
General observation. Pattaya is busy. Lots of what looks like Russian.
Soi 6 at 9 pm. There are a lot of girls. Most Bars still devoid of customers.
Some girls are Blessed with decent looks.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2791641]So is always a customer fail? why you assuming what you can't know? I really don't understand these arguments. These girls should start to learn how to behave and earn their ladydrinks! Next time when she bring a beer to a customer, she can sit next to him and start to rubbing his cock and ask if he want a ST or if he want drink together.
Anyway is not my problem, I not go to soi6 for drinks. Only straight upstair for ST with girls who accept my offers. IMHO guys should always talk with girls outside the bar before enter.[/QUOTE]Since we were not there and you asked us, all we can do is make educated assumptions.
Agree with the previous response. Other assumption is that she remembers you from your previous visits.
Have you been there before?
Also, what happened? How long did you stay? Did some one else buy her anything?
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2791478]I took one for the team yesterday, I had my regular massage lady over for drinks, and invited another lady. After everyone was blitzed, they took off my shorts, and then the massage lady demonstrated the male pressure points for prostate massage. So, now, another lady in Pattaya knows about prostate massage, which is a very good thing for you.[/QUOTE]To do the prostate message, don't they have to go inside you. You are a brave man.
BTW what tequila do you give them. Patron, don Julio 1947?
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2791479]What is a BM?[/QUOTE]Board Members. Nightwish group own a Pattaya's forum.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2791672]Since we were not there and you asked us, all we can do is make educated assumptions.
Agree with the previous response. Other assumption is that she remembers you from your previous visits.
Have you been there before?
Also, what happened? How long did you stay? Did some one else buy her anything?[/QUOTE]Read well, then re-read. You should learn how to quote and who you quote. You look like a troll to me.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2791641]So is always a customer fail? why you assuming what you can't know? I really don't understand these arguments.[/QUOTE]I think my point was really put yourself in the best position possible with the girl. For me it's buy her a drink. In Pattaya, I'm really just trying to kill time with a pretty girl anyways so that drink kills 20-30 minutes of time and tells me if she is good at DFK and if I like her tits before I spend money taking her upstairs.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2791641]I not go to soi6 for drinks. Only straight upstair for ST with girls who accept my offers. IMHO guys should always talk with girls outside the bar before enter.[/QUOTE]Since I've actually been to bars with you I know you have a very good game. Likely the best I've seen out of anyone I've hung out with. Most guys including myself can only aspire to have the game you have. You are correct if you don't want to buy drinks the best way is to talk to the girl before you enter the bar.
[QUOTE=Ass Addict;2791631]She wouldn't have followed you if she was not interested.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely true.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2791719]
Since I've actually been to bars with you I know you have a very good game. Most guys including myself can only aspire to have the game you have. You are correct if you don't want to buy drinks the best way is to talk to the girl before you enter the bar.[/QUOTE]Thanks, but I don't think I'm doing anything special. I know what I want and I know how I want to spend my money. So I talk to the girl first. Everyone can do it.
In soi6 girls are sit outside the bar or stand in the street try to stop you, easy to talk with them before enter the bar and ask what I want to know.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2791216]Then, the Bryan Flowers guy single-handedly destroyed all of Soi 6? How did he do that? Is he that rich and powerful?[/QUOTE]He completely changed the nature of the entire soi. Back in the day, if you wanted to party in open air bars you went to the beer bars on soi 7 and 8. If you wanted to get laid you went to the brothels on soi 6. Punters didn't sit and drink with gals very much on 6. If you even had a drink it was ane quick one and then it was upstairs. Nightwish change that model by opening up the bars and making it into more of a beer bar atmosphere and as was stated in a recent post, a place for guys to sit and drink with gals. They had no problem if you just wanted to grab them from outside of the bar and go right upstairs. They weren't working there to make money from drinks. In addition, no loud music, it was a very quiet soi even when all the "bars" were opan. I'm sure NW group has done very well for themselves financially, but the model they adopted just doesn't interest me. Soi 6 was incredibly unique for the Thailand P4P scene. Now, it's just like any other loud bar area.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2791676]To do the prostate message, don't they have to go inside you. You are a brave man.
BTW what tequila do you give them. Patron, don Julio 1947?[/QUOTE]No going inside, it's all outside.
The tequila is either Jose Cuervo or Camarena, I don't have the money for Patron.
The lady who was the student the other day got to demonstrate her new learning last night. She couldn't stop, so after an hour, I pulled her on top for a fuck, so I could finish. Which I did, quickly.
The open beer bar was fine but it was that British tabloid that brought a ton of bad press in 2016 or 2017 when they published a story and photos of a guy / girl having sex right at the counter along Soi 6. Before that we could strip down every single girl in the open air bar and they wouldn't care. In fact it was the norm. I remember the good old days of Soi 6 in 2016 when I have several naked girls on me and DFKing them all for the price a 1 lady drink. Now bar owners are seemingly terrified of that happening. Also so many pussy wimp guys go there now and expect nothing but a smile and holding hands for their lady drinks.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2791838]The open beer bar was fine but it was that British tabloid that brought a ton of bad press in 2016 or 2017 when they published a story and photos of a guy / girl having sex right at the counter along Soi 6. Before that we could strip down every single girl in the open air bar and they wouldn't care. In fact it was the norm. I remember the good old days of Soi 6 in 2016 when I have several naked girls on me and DFKing them all for the price a 1 lady drink. Now bar owners are seemingly terrified of that happening. Also so many pussy wimp guys go there now and expect nothing but a smile and holding hands for their lady drinks.[/QUOTE]Most of my Soi 6 time was between '01 and '10. It began to become a bit different after that. Even though I'm a BKK resident I used to spend at least three nights or so a month in Pattaya during those years. You had the place to yourself during low season. Soi 6 was another level with many of the gals providing PSE and most all good performers. I remember this gal out of Ruby Pub, light skinned, great face, ripping body, no baby, loved to be spanked, a true three holer, and could just go and go. Some great memories.
And 6 closed early, always before midnight and the majority of the gals headed to walking straight to either Tony's or Marine. Many times you could just grab them off the street on the way. Walking street was amazing at night. You couldn't make it 5 m without a gal saying "Go with you. " And of course then there's the fact that most of those girls wanted 500 Baht.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2791838]The open beer bar was fine but it was that British tabloid that brought a ton of bad press in 2016 or 2017 when they published a story and photos of a guy / girl having sex right at the counter along Soi 6. Before that we could strip down every single girl in the open air bar and they wouldn't care. In fact it was the norm. I remember the good old days of Soi 6 in 2016 when I have several naked girls on me and DFKing them all for the price a 1 lady drink. Now bar owners are seemingly terrified of that happening. Also so many pussy wimp guys go there now and expect nothing but a smile and holding hands for their lady drinks.[/QUOTE]Most of my Soi 6 time was between '01 and '10. It began to become a bit different after that. Even though I'm a BKK resident I used to spend at least three nights or so a month in Pattaya during those years. You had the place to yourself during low season. Soi 6 was another level with many of the gals providing PSE and most all good performers. I remember this gal out of Ruby Pub, light skinned, great face, ripping body, no baby, loved to be spanked, a true three holer, and could just go and go. Some great memories.
And 6 closed early, always before midnight and the majority of the gals headed to walking straight to either Tony's or Marine. Many times you could just grab them off the street on the way. Walking street was amazing at night. You couldn't make it 5 m without a gal saying "Go with you. " And of course then there's the fact that most of those girls wanted 500 Baht.
One thing I don't like about Soy 6 that happens even worse than on Beach Road is the abundance of new Vloggers (phone videos on selfie sticks, go pro cameras) - almost as many of these guys walking around then the fake rolex watch guys. What is scary. Is my eyes are only decent, not 20 20 and I was usually very drunk. What's up with all the guys wearing backpacks or oddly large packages? I would think at least a few of those guys are carrying cameras and recording too.
Glad I am not married. Lots of videos being made showing mongers faces.
[QUOTE=GoFourIt;2791476]What does BM mean?[/QUOTE]Board member.
[QUOTE=GentileBear;2791885]One thing I don't like about Soy 6 that happens even worse than on Beach Road is the abundance of new Vloggers (phone videos on selfie sticks, go pro cameras) - almost as many of these guys walking around then the fake rolex watch guys. What is scary. Is my eyes are only decent, not 20 20 and I was usually very drunk. What's up with all the guys wearing backpacks or oddly large packages? I would think at least a few of those guys are carrying cameras and recording too.
Glad I am not married. Lots of videos being made showing mongers faces.[/QUOTE]Agreed. In late 99 I just happened to have my camera around my neck when headed down Soi Cowboy. No less than three punters came up to me and told me not to take any pictures. Of course I already knew that. It was an unwritten rule that no one took pictures in p4 p areas and we all respected that.
[QUOTE=ChaChumplin;2791643]Desire Bar. Number 8 Priew is mega Hot.
Sexy Bar. Lots of women who are built like Oxen. Lots meaning all. Hahaha.
My gut tells me online isn't killing Pattaya. If it were more Bars would be streaming.[/QUOTE]This is a picture of Priew.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2791706]Board Members. Nightwish group own a Pattaya's forum.[/QUOTE]Not quite, Bryan Flowers part owns Nightwish and part owns that board, he's also into a few other businesses. But it's the reason why the board is not a shill for Nightwish, there is a lot of good content there and it's open to other bar's and members talk about anything they want.
2 data points.
Seems one of the top bars in Treetown is Buzzin Bar. Look packed.
The are around. Proverbial GEM. In Treetown Sports Bar or something. God blessed her really big time. Seemed down to earth. Hahaha. Just an observation.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2791926]Agreed. In late 99 I just happened to have my camera around my neck when headed down Soi Cowboy. No less than three punters came up to me and told me not to take any pictures. Of course I already knew that. It was an unwritten rule that no one took pictures in p4 p areas and we all respected that.[/QUOTE]The difference is now anyone can afford a 4 k action camera or SLR and they take videos to make money on a Social platform like YouTube, FB, IG, etc. The sluttier the place with more girls the more money they make. Sex sells.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2791926]Agreed. In late 99 I just happened to have my camera around my neck when headed down Soi Cowboy. No less than three punters came up to me and told me not to take any pictures. Of course I already knew that. It was an unwritten rule that no one took pictures in p4 p areas and we all respected that.[/QUOTE]Before the advent of the internet I was able to indulge in a second favorite hobby of mine, taking naked and porn photos and videos of girls that I bang. Back then (70's, 80's and early 90's) almost all girls allowed it. Then came the internet and all that changed. I have tons of photos and VHS tapes of my exploits. One day I'm going to digitize them. Not too sure if the VHS tapes are viable now though.
[QUOTE=GentileBear;2791885]One thing I don't like about Soy 6 that happens even worse than on Beach Road is the abundance of new Vloggers (phone videos on selfie sticks, go pro cameras) - almost as many of these guys walking around then the fake rolex watch guys. What is scary. Is my eyes are only decent, not 20 20 and I was usually very drunk. What's up with all the guys wearing backpacks or oddly large packages? I would think at least a few of those guys are carrying cameras and recording too.
Glad I am not married. Lots of videos being made showing mongers faces.[/QUOTE]I am often traveling in many different countries and I see guys in their 20's and 30's with their backpacks. My guess is they are traveling the world on a tight budget and staying in hostels with shared accomodations and always carry all their valuables with them. Just my guess.
And about the guys making videos. Who cares? Only other mongers ever going to see them videos.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2791632]Why think and believe when you could have just asked?[/QUOTE]I did. She said no. Actually, her exact answer was, "Cannot."
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2792017]I am often traveling in many different countries and I see guys in their 20's and 30's with their backpacks. My guess is they are traveling the world on a tight budget and staying in hostels with shared accomodations and always carry all their valuables with them. Just my guess.
And about the guys making videos. Who cares? Only other mongers ever going to see them videos.[/QUOTE]You'd be surprised what pops up in people's YouTube feeds.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2792017]And about the guys making videos. Who cares? Only other mongers ever going to see them videos.[/QUOTE]That is why I called BS that time someone in the Medellin thread said that some chick's family saw a video that someone had made walking through the hooker area and she was on it. Foreign guy makes obscure video for a specific foreign audience and local people come across it by chance and comb through it and see their relative? They should have spent that luck on the lotto instead.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2792031]You'd be surprised what pops up in people's YouTube feeds.[/QUOTE]I would be really surprised. All the mongering that I have done and never has any random monger shit just popped up on my youtube. Neither has any random shit about planting a garden. And if by chance it did, then I am not bored enough to sift through 30 minutes of some shit I am not interested in and and notice some dude I went to high school with was at the 12:18 mark for all of 2 seconds.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2791993]The difference is now anyone can afford a 4 k action camera or SLR and they take videos to make money on a Social platform like YouTube, FB, IG, etc. The sluttier the place with more girls the more money they make. Sex sells.[/QUOTE]Last night at about 9:00 PM a man was shooting video west to east as he walked along the north side of Soi 6. I have no idea if it will appear on social media, but I'll keep my eyes open. He was clearly targeting the girls, most of whom were oblivious to his presence, he certainly wasn't trying to take pictures of the few present men. I was walking behind him with my camera ready to video him, should he decide to turn and video me (he didn't).
He was not subtle about what he was doing. He used a pocket camera held with two hands in front of him as he walked at a slow to medium pace, which allowed the pedestrians in front of him build a gap ahead and caused a cluster of people behind him, I chose to stay behind.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2792017]....And about the guys making videos. Who cares? Only other mongers ever going to see them videos.[/QUOTE]Unless you live in the States and have a crazy ass ex who's even willing to hire a private detective to make trouble for you.
Booked to go to Bangkok and Pattaya for Songkran. There will also be a rap festival in town that I will check out. I've done Colombia and DR but now it is time to see what the hype is about surrounding Thailand. I've made it through maybe 25 pages of forum. There seems to be more information regarding Thailand than other locations I have been to. I want to see why guys say Thailand is so amazing and why it seems plenty prefer it to DR.
Did I Hear correctly?
Price going up over 100 % next month. No not Noi on Soi 6.
Burger King Beach Road coffee going from present 29 baht to 59 or 69 baht start March. OMG. I'm assuming all branches will participate, at least the ones in heavy tourist areas.
There will come a time when the internet will be able to search videos for people. You will be able to search millions of videos to find people you search for.
Just my prediction for what it's worth.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2792328]Unless you live in the States and have a crazy ass ex who's even willing to hire a private detective to make trouble for you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SlangTeng;2792351]Booked to go to Bangkok and Pattaya for Songkran. There will also be a rap festival in town that I will check out. I've done Colombia and DR but now it is time to see what the hype is about surrounding Thailand. I've made it through maybe 25 pages of forum. There seems to be more information regarding Thailand than other locations I have been to. I want to see why guys say Thailand is so amazing and why it seems plenty prefer it to DR.[/QUOTE]It's a hip hop festival.
[QUOTE=SlangTeng;2792351]Booked to go to Bangkok and Pattaya for Songkran. There will also be a rap festival in town that I will check out. I've done Colombia and DR but now it is time to see what the hype is about surrounding Thailand. I've made it through maybe 25 pages of forum. There seems to be more information regarding Thailand than other locations I have been to. I want to see why guys say Thailand is so amazing and why it seems plenty prefer it to DR.[/QUOTE]Problem with Songrjkran is a lot of Girls go home to their Village.
So much so you can tell the difference. Add to that numbers are already down.
Just keep your enthusiasm in Check.
[QUOTE=SlangTeng;2792351]Booked to go to Bangkok and Pattaya for Songkran. There will also be a rap festival in town that I will check out. [/QUOTE]Songkran and Pattaya together, you picked the worst time of the year IMHO. I did songkran once in Pattaya, never again in my life, even if I had a free trip.
I had a silicon enhanced MILF over to my condo today. She was complaining about her Farang boyfriend, but I told her not to worry, since he was giving her 50,000 baht a month.
After some tequila, she was naked and straddling my face, while another lady was giving me a HJ. And then the HJ turned into a fuck.
Just another day in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=SlangTeng;2792351]Booked to go to Bangkok and Pattaya for Songkran. There will also be a rap festival in town that I will check out. I've done Colombia and DR but now it is time to see what the hype is about surrounding Thailand. I've made it through maybe 25 pages of forum. There seems to be more information regarding Thailand than other locations I have been to. I want to see why guys say Thailand is so amazing and why it seems plenty prefer it to DR.[/QUOTE]LOL. Did you even mention DR in the same sentence with Thailand? At least you could have stepped up to Colombia. Yeah Rolling Loud is coming April 13-15.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2792562]Songkran and Pattaya together, you picked the worst time of the year IMHO. I did songkran once in Pattaya, never again in my life, even if I had a free trip.[/QUOTE]I lived in Pattaya and always left during Songkran. Bunch of muscleheads who haven't grown up yet acting like big shots with water pistols.
A deadly combination of the most guys and fewest girls actually working. Those girls who stick around town are doing Songkran, not working.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2792611]I had a silicon enhanced MILF over to my condo today. She was complaining about her Farang boyfriend, but I told her not to worry, since he was giving her 50,000 baht a month.
After some tequila, she was naked and straddling my face, while another lady was giving me a HJ. And then the HJ turned into a fuck.
Just another day in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Imagine how valuable your posts could be if you actually share info about pricing etc. Now its just one big diary from a narcist that adds zero value to this topic.
Feel kinda sorry for you mate.
[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2792676]Imagine how valuable your posts could be if you actually share info about pricing etc. Now its just one big diary from a narcist that adds zero value to this topic.
[/QUOTE]I'm feeling left out. I'll adjust Explorer's post to my day yesterday.
I had a pretty young naturally busty ex-coworker (silicon enhanced MILF) over to my house (condo) today. She was complaining about my smelly feet (her Farang boyfriend), but I told her not to worry since we could shower together (since he was giving her 50,000 baht a month).
After a nice bubble bath with Mr. Bubble (some tequila), she was laying on her tits so I could see side breasts only while I prone boned her (naked and straddling my face) then did anal. We were hungry after so went for some ramen near Canal.
Sorry no restaurant or girl named to protect the innocent. Price? A priceless afternoon in NYC.
[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2792676]Imagine how valuable your posts could be if you actually share info about pricing etc. Now its just one big diary from a narcist that adds zero value to this topic.
Feel kinda sorry for you mate.[/QUOTE]Always the same price, 2000 baht for 3 or 4 hours.
What the lady does is up to her. Of course, she knows if she does nothing, she probably isn't coming bac.
[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2792676]Imagine how valuable your posts could be if you actually share info about pricing etc. Now its just one big diary from a narcist that adds zero value to this topic.
Feel kinda sorry for you mate.[/QUOTE]
Vagueness is prevalent on ISG, especially in the Thailand threads. It's almost like posts are just made up. Try going on the Jakarta thread and start posting stuff about the "secret" bars. You'll instantly get PM's telling you to not post about these bars. On the Vietnam forum nothing is ever mentioned. Everything is top secret. So much to do in Vietnam and so many nice teen and early 20's girls for cheap but you won't hear a word about it on ISG.
There should be a section on ISG where you only have access to if Admin feels you are have contributed enough relevant information in your posts overt time including girl's names/numbers, bar names, and pricing, and what is currently hot and not hot in the city. If you become inactive in providing DETAILED information to that section of the board the guys in that section can vote to have you removed. The Admin should be longstanding useful members who lives in the city. Pattaya - Mr. E and LBM. BKK Goats and ET.
More on my mongering in Pattaya.
I start off in a bar, when I barfine a lady to go back to my condo to drink tequila. I always have decent real tequila in my freezer, plus lemons and salt.
The lady will stay for a few hours, and most of the time, the session will end with a fuck, but there will be lots of foreplay.
Maybe 5 percent of the time, the lady will be a complete dud, just not into it at all, and I will send her back to the bar with 1000 baht.
I repeat with the good ones, and sometimes they ask if they can bring a friend. Sometimes the friend works out better than the first lady. Sometimes the lady brings a real good friend who can make her cum. But once I have the friend's Facebook, I am free to have the friend come alone.
Using this method, I usually have a rotation of 30 ladies I can choose from. The rotation changes as some ladies get knocked up and go home, or some sponsor will try to take them off the market, or they get married.
I rarely go to a bar to get a lady, most just come to my condo. When I do go to a bar, its to find a new lady, or sometimes I don't have the Facebook or LINE of some lady who came over once.
What I don't do is chat with the ladies online. They are busy, so my interactions are only about date and time. Or to say thank you after they leave.
If some lady pings me to request a date, I will respond, but random chatting almost always ends up with a request for money.
[QUOTE=SlangTeng;2792351]Booked to go to Bangkok and Pattaya for Songkran. There will also be a rap festival in town that I will check out. I've done Colombia and DR but now it is time to see what the hype is about surrounding Thailand. I've made it through maybe 25 pages of forum. There seems to be more information regarding Thailand than other locations I have been to. I want to see why guys say Thailand is so amazing and why it seems plenty prefer it to DR.[/QUOTE]The majority of the things being said about Songkran are very true! But what is done too late to back out now? I believe in Bangkok, can be confirmed by others is basically 3 days something like the 13th-15th, the closure of roads, and water throwing.
If you are the stiff-shirt type of guy dress shirt, long pants, and black socks will not go well for you. In Pattaya, it goes on much too long March 13th thru the 20th, in different locations throughout Chon Buri Province. In Pattaya, it will start on the 13th, down in the tourist area, particularly Beach road where there is lots of water throwing. Pretty much dress as if you are going to the Beach wear sunglasses and wrap your phones and stuff in a plastic bag they will be selling 7/11 plastic covers that you can wear over your neck.
As noted even before Covid many do travel back to their villages this is basically their New Year's but if you never experience it you will never know when it comes to driving it is one of the most dangerous times on the road. The date is embedded into my head for life April 18th, the day I came within an inch or less of the end, the birth of my granddaughter 18th of April has erased much of that day so driving up to the wife's farm during Songkran should be a breeze?
Occasionally, I will rent a hotel room with a jacuzzi for a lady I have been with before (so I know she is going to show up). My go. To hotel is Cape Dara Resort. Very few Farangs tgere, mostly HISO Thais or Chinese residents.
I get a room with a jacuzzi and bring cheap shampoo to make bubbles.
Thai ladies don't like hot water generally, and aren't used to baths, which makes them hesitant to try. After a few drinks, they will get in, and most seem to enjoy it. The vast majority try getting on top for a jacuzzi fuck, but its harder than you think. Its not easy for a lady's pussy to contain a soapy dick. After a while, we hit the bed for real sex.
A great change of pace.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2792791]... wrap your phones and stuff in a plastic bag they will be selling 7/11 plastic covers that you can wear over your neck.
...[/QUOTE]Not to mention hearing aids. What I resented most when getting spashed was that 1) the water was ice-cold 2) gypsum paste got thrown as well. What about having some peee at the ready to retaliate?
I would like to get out of Pattaya for Songkran, but I suspect that everywhere in Thailand will be jammed with regugees from Bangkok.
So, where to go?
[QUOTE=XXL;2792799]Not to mention hearing aids. What I resented most when getting spashed was that 1) the water was ice-cold 2) gypsum paste got thrown as well. What about having some peee at the ready to retaliate?[/QUOTE]Yes, I can imagine if you have a medical condition such as eyes or ear that certainly will be a problem. Guess one would have to just sack it in plastic if one is to participate.
This time of the year living here the past few have been great nice and quiet the way things should be celebrated. If one is to partake as I had for a number of years while my son was growing up like most things you prepare yourself basically with swim gear. All out I was never one to do the paste stuff but expect it guilty I loved the freezing cold because it was hard work and HOT, I took him and his friends around in the back of the truck giant bucket every chance we had I brought blocks of Ice being so hot I actually welcomed it.
Talking about Pee, years ago I went out to WS, it was the 20th, told the drunk guy don't lie about going to work he still dunk me later and came back you can guess what he got. Personally, even at my age have no problems with it in a few years I'll be getting gear up to take my granddaughter.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2792750]Always the same price, 2000 baht for 3 or 4 hours.
What the lady does is up to her. Of course, she knows if she does nothing, she probably isn't coming bac.[/QUOTE]Kuddos for the answer. Could you please add price info in all your next post and how you get the girl? I mean you probaly got a few 100 in line (same here) but if another punter can't find her. Well kinda useless to know someone fucked someone.
[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2792846]Kuddos for the answer. Could you please add price info in all your next post and how you get the girl? I mean you probaly got a few 100 in line (same here) but if another punter can't find her. Well kinda useless to know someone fucked someone.[/QUOTE]He has already said 100 times where he gets them and that he pays them all 2000 for a few hours (too much IMHO; I am a 1200 LT kind of guy). Bars and networking. Why would another punter want to find her? Another punter does not even know how she looks. Thousands of chicks in Pattaya. Surely each punter can find one to fit his own style without chasing after a chick simply because another guy said he liked a particular chick.
There is still a problem with Bolt taxis in Pattaya. Either the number of taxis has been drastically reduced, or there are too many customers.
To get a Bolt into Pattaya from Jomtien is a struggle.
Left hand side of the triangle bar coming from bukhao. Lots of milfs and gilfs with high mileage LOL. Everything on offer for 700 baht but not my piece of cake. I prefer soi honey as early afternoon massage / boom boom action. Younger 30 something year old ladies with great bodies. Got to full service and a good massage for 1000.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2792819]I would like to get out of Pattaya for Songkran, but I suspect that everywhere in Thailand will be jammed with regugees from Bangkok.
So, where to go?[/QUOTE]Leave Thailand! My first few years I always went to Phnom Penh cause I hadn't discovered Jakarta yet. After I discovered Jakarta a 2 week visit during Songkran was the obvious choice.
If you don't want to leave Thailand, head to Bangkok cause their Songkran is only 3 days. I've seen wanna be's carry around super soakers on Pattaya baht buses 2 weeks after Songkran!
I don't mind having "water" thrown on me. I always use the gogo girl I'm with as a shield. Petite skinny ones are so ineffective! Are we sure it's only water in those super soakers?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2792910]Leave Thailand! My first few years I always went to Phnom Penh cause I hadn't discovered Jakarta yet. After I discovered Jakarta a 2 week visit during Songkran was the obvious choice.
If you don't want to leave Thailand, head to Bangkok cause their Songkran is only 3 days. I've seen wanna be's carry around super soakers on Pattaya baht buses 2 weeks after Songkran!
I don't mind having "water" thrown on me. I always use the gogo girl I'm with as a shield. Petite skinny ones are so ineffective! Are we sure it's only water in those super soakers?[/QUOTE]That's one reason to barfine a BBW I suppose.
Kite festival is on the beach road causing traffic nightmares. Folks from Bangkok and elsewhere make it here on weekends which is making it worse.
There is some running race tomorrow at the beach.
Saw four baht buses of Chinese on Soi 6 browsing.
Four wheelers need to be banned on Soi 6 to prevent accidents and constant bottlenecks.
Beer Prices going up at the Agogo.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2792910]Leave Thailand! My first few years I always went to Phnom Penh cause I hadn't discovered Jakarta yet. After I discovered Jakarta a 2 week visit during Songkran was the obvious choice.
If you don't want to leave Thailand, head to Bangkok cause their Songkran is only 3 days. [/QUOTE]An interesting factoid about Songkran is that airfares out of BKK to Phnom & CGK always go up a day or 2 before Songkran begins and BKK hotel rates go down over the length of the holiday. This is a sure sign that a lot of people do not want to be in LOS over this holiday if they can help it. Personally, I have left BKK for a Phnom Penh side trip many times on account of Songkran. I have also scheduled my Asian trips to begin after Songkran, so I don't have to bother with it at all. But a couple of times I stayed in BKK just to see what goes on. I stayed at the BKK Weston and Grande Centrepoint T21 for bargain basement rates and I managed to stay dry too, LOL, because both the Weston and the Grande Centrepoint T21 (especially the T21) are kind of connected to Cowboy via the MRT station underpass walkway.
But I saw a lot of drenched people on Sukhumvit even though I think there is a lot more water craziness away from the farang zone and in local Thai neighborhoods. Some Thai's really get into the holiday spirit. My Mini used to send me pics of herself in a taxi surrounded by water revelers as she was attempting to come see me. I suppose the celebration is fun if you are young and have the right attitude AND you are drinking plenty of beer.
I'm curious what the average ST rate is currently off of ThaiFriendly. When I was in Pattaya last summer I'the say the average was around 1,200 to 1,300 baht.
Curious if rates have gone up.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2792910]My first few years I always went to Phnom Penh cause I hadn't discovered Jakarta yet. After I discovered Jakarta a 2 week visit during Songkran was the obvious choice.
[/QUOTE]I suppose I could RTFF, but what's good in Jakarta other than the Classic Hotel?
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2793013]I suppose I could RTFF, but what's good in Jakarta other than the Classic Hotel?[/QUOTE]Jakarta is one of my favorite towns. I will tell you this and then leave it up to you if you want to RTFF. Jakarta has some great, world class bordellos. Classic is not one of them. Jakarta also has some lively FL pick up bars which I enjoy. But the key attraction that Jakarta has going for itself are the girls. IMHO they are prettier than Filipinas and can be very naughty GFE. Their bodies are more curvy than Thai girls and on average they (Indos) are better in bed. So, up to you if you want to find out more.
Last night, I had a lady come over for drinks, she has come over many times before, and claims I am the only customer she fucks. Right.
After drinking considerable amounts of tequila, she goes into girlfriend mode, turns into a 3 holer (I didn't partake last night), sniff kisses, the only problem is when she climbed on top to fuck, I couldn't feel her pussy when my dick went inside, which was weird. Maybe my dick was numb from her BJ, maybe I was too drunk, but there was no feeling at all.
Anyway, despite all her girlfriend moves, she has a 19 year old Thai boyfriend. Yeah, its amazing that a bargirl can profess her eternal love for a customer, but live with a Thai man.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2793021]Jakarta is one of my favorite towns. I will tell you this and then leave it up to you if you want to RTFF. Jakarta has some great, world class bordellos. Classic is not one of them. Jakarta also has some lively FL pick up bars which I enjoy. But the key attraction that Jakarta has going for itself are the girls. IMHO they are prettier than Filipinas and can be very naughty GFE. Their bodies are more curvy than Thai girls and on average they (Indos) are better in bed. So, up to you if you want to find out more.[/QUOTE]Could not agree more about Indo women. They're excellent. Jakarta is kind of a pain as cities go though. Not as user friendly as BKK.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2792964]I'm curious what the average ST rate is currently off of ThaiFriendly. When I was in Pattaya last summer I'the say the average was around 1,200 to 1,300 baht.
Curious if rates have gone up.[/QUOTE]Ain't no average. Gave a chick 1000 last night and another chick just asked for 2500. I try to shoot for 1200 LT.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2792950]An interesting factoid about Songkran is that airfares out of BKK to Phnom & CGK always go up a day or 2 before Songkran begins and BKK hotel rates go down over the length of the holiday. This is a sure sign that a lot of people do not want to be in LOS over this holiday if they can help it. Personally, I have left BKK for a Phnom Penh side trip many times on account of Songkran. I have also scheduled my Asian trips to begin after Songkran, so I don't have to bother with it at all. But a couple of times I stayed in BKK just to see what goes on. I stayed at the BKK Weston and Grande Centrepoint T21 for bargain basement rates and I managed to stay dry too, LOL, because both the Weston and the Grande Centrepoint T21 (especially the T21) are kind of connected to Cowboy via the MRT station underpass walkway.
But I saw a lot of drenched people on Sukhumvit even though I think there is a lot more water craziness away from the farang zone and in local Thai neighborhoods. Some Thai's really get into the holiday spirit. My Mini used to send me pics of herself in a taxi surrounded by water revelers as she was attempting to come see me. I suppose the celebration is fun if you are young and have the right attitude AND you are drinking plenty of beer.[/QUOTE]Last night 9 pm. Baht bus from central to walking street. So a few bus were full. There's like millions more coming. Not a big deal.
Same with traffic. Not a big deal.
Hot Hello Girls. It is an indicator of what's inside. Hahaha.
So I finally made it back to Pattaya after several years. I had made a few trips to AC in the meantime. Pattaya in one word. Overwhelming. The sheer number of bars, girls, mongers, traffic is truly exhausting. Those who say they can't find a decent looker in Pattaya are clearly visually impaired. You see literally thousands of women every evening and there are some percent hotties. Even beach road had a few that would turn heads. As for me, I enjoyed the gentlemens clubs the most. Camel Toe girls were fun and wild and found good fun in Maggie Mays as well. As far as gogos, didn't go to too many except Windmill which is a hoot with naked girls everywhere and girl-girl shows all over the club on two floors, and Heaven Above. Ended up Barfining a brand new girl 20 year old, 3 days in Pattaya. I believed it because she spoke zero english and fucked totally naturally (I,e not like a bar girl). 2000 BF and 3000 for her. The GC prices were 1 k per girl and 200 to 300 for the room. The good part there is the foreplay and build up in the bars before the main event. I missed that action since its all but gone in AC.
I didn't fuck too many girls this trip, just four. Got BBFS with 3 of them, CIP in one (the Windmill newbie).
Would I go back soon? I don't know. The traffic is insane and it takes 30 min to go 2 km in the evening. Walking street is sensory overload. Its like a buffet with too much food and I lose my appetite. AC is much smaller and manageable and being able to talk in English to the girls, even the fresh of the farm ones, is a huge appeal.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2793093]So I finally made it back to Pattaya after several years. I had made a few trips to AC in the meantime. Pattaya in one word. Overwhelming. The sheer number of bars, girls, mongers, traffic is truly exhausting. Those who say they can't find a decent looker in Pattaya are clearly visually impaired. You see literally thousands of women every evening and there are some percent hotties. Even beach road had a few that would turn heads. As for me, I enjoyed the gentlemens clubs the most. Camel Toe girls were fun and wild and found good fun in Maggie Mays as well. As far as gogos, didn't go to too many except Windmill which is a hoot with naked girls everywhere and girl-girl shows all over the club on two floors, and Heaven Above. Ended up Barfining a brand new girl 20 year old, 3 days in Pattaya. I believed it because she spoke zero english and fucked totally naturally (I,e not like a bar girl). 2000 BF and 3000 for her. The GC prices were 1 k per girl and 200 to 300 for the room. The good part there is the foreplay and build up in the bars before the main event. I missed that action since its all but gone in AC.
I didn't fuck too many girls this trip, just four. Got BBFS with 3 of them, CIP in one (the Windmill newbie).
Would I go back soon? I don't know. The traffic is insane and it takes 30 min to go 2 km in the evening. Walking street is sensory overload. Its like a buffet with too much food and I lose my appetite. AC is much smaller and manageable and being able to talk in English to the girls, even the fresh of the farm ones, is a huge appeal.[/QUOTE]Windmill very popular to the point they have to be printing Baht.
Same old story though. Avgg rating of attractive ness of girls is below average.
The other night I saw what might have been the ugliest Thai girl ever,. She was a Nude. No offense.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2792964]I'm curious what the average ST rate is currently off of ThaiFriendly. When I was in Pattaya last summer I'the say the average was around 1,200 to 1,300 baht.
Curious if rates have gone up.[/QUOTE]On TF some girls ask for 3000 but nearly always settle for 2000. Most ask for 2000. Maybe 25% will ask for 1500.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2793013]I suppose I could RTFF, but what's good in Jakarta other than the Classic Hotel?[/QUOTE]I thought I just posted this but since you don't want to read the forums in the central area there are Kota indah with a pile of bars, Travel, Classic, Malio just to name a few. NE there is Kelapa Gading with a ton of clubs. West there's New Medika and a whole ton of bars no one goes to unless you are in the know. There are places all over like B Fashion and a ton of large massage places with tons of girls. There's CJ and BATS for pickup bars like iBar. There ares places down South like Eastern Promise and not sure what else is open in Blok M. Jakarta is the unknown for most guys. I can guarantee no one will be disappointed there. Cheaper than Thailand. Girls are prettier than Thailand. More girls in their late teens and early 20's than Thailand. Hotels are cheap. No taxi scams like Thailand. Goats is correct the city is a dud except for Kota Kasablanka mall with the Neo Soho area and Grand Indonesia mall. Never bothered me with bars having girls from 3 pm til late at night. The only downfall and this does keep many guys away is that you can't take most of the girls to your hotel for LT, other than CJs and BATS.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2793093]I didn't fuck too many girls this trip, just four. Got BBFS with 3 of them, CIP in one (the Windmill newbie).[/QUOTE]So you BB with 75% of the chicks that you were with but some say this is very hard to find. Did you negotiate it beforehand or just go with the flow?
Please keep the Jakarta stuff in the Jakarta forum, this forum is about Pattaya.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2792964]I'm curious what the average ST rate is currently off of ThaiFriendly. When I was in Pattaya last summer I'the say the average was around 1,200 to 1,300 baht.
Curious if rates have gone up.[/QUOTE]I was there in December and got a lot at 1500. I'm usually not choosing the hottest looking ones cause those I know most likely heavily photoshopped. I picked avg looking ones and they'd provide better service which I'd prefer over looks.
[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2793219]I was there in December and got a lot at 1500. I'm usually not choosing the hottest looking ones cause those I know most likely heavily photoshopped. I picked avg looking ones and they'd provide better service which I'd prefer over looks.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the replies gentlemen.
I agree with you, the average looking ones which were cheaper tended to provide better service, not just sexually but in terms of the company they provided. I had one that never asked for more than 1,000 baht, was always on time, slightly above average looking and a nice thick body, and all three holes were always open for service. I normally don't even repeat but the value with this chick was too good. And that's the nice thing about Pattaya, if you search enough you can find value.
Another one that I repeated with would charge 1,200 baht and do everything I say. A nice tight body, friendly and down to earth. Best of all, would give me the best deep throat I ever had to the point it would kind of hurt in a good way. And would incorporate rimming as well without being asked to.
Overall, sounds like prices are slightly higher but likely come down as low season kicks in.
Man I miss Pattaya. Once you get back to the states and get completely blue balled, the idea that you can walk into a BJ bar and blow a load in a hottie's mouth for twenty something bucks and be on your way seems so far fetched and unbelievable. You gents that live there have it good.
I am planning my trip, now when pandemic is over. Is beginning / mid September a good time in Pattaya?
Also last time I was in Pattaya in 2016. I liked Russian establishments but the girls were unreachable (unaffordable for me). Have the prices went down or they still high for Russian girls. (I was quoted $500 USD LT -- that was more than the whole budget for my trip at the time) . Maybe somebody would suggest where could I take European girls rather than in gentlemen's club so it's a little cheaper.
[QUOTE=YuriB;2793254]I am planning my trip, now when pandemic is over. Is beginning / mid September a good time in Pattaya?
Also last time I was in Pattaya in 2016. I liked Russian establishments but the girls were unreachable (unaffordable for me). Have the prices went down or they still high for Russian girls. (I was quoted $500 USD LT -- that was more than the whole budget for my trip at the time) . Maybe somebody would suggest where could I take European girls rather than in gentlemen's club so it's a little cheaper.[/QUOTE]Anytime is good Seriously, you will get rain, sometimes a lot of rain as it is right in the height of the monsoon season. That said, there will also be a lot less tourists so the bars and restaurants will not be as crowded as during high season. Also you should be able to bargain some on services as it will be a buyers market. Just buy a cheap umbrella when you get there and leave it when you go home.
I was there last year, mid-October to mid-November and only really had two days of rain. We did get stuck on Soi 6 in a torrential downpour and it was a pain in the ass to get back to the hotel. This was an a bit unusual as October is still usually the tail end of the monsoon season. This year I am coming down for the entire month of October. I expect a bit of rain but maybe I will be pleasantly surprised again.
As far as availability of Russians or other Eastern Europeans, I can't really help as I tend to focus on the petite Thai, Cambodian and Laotian ladies while I am there.
[QUOTE=YuriB;2793254]I am planning my trip, now when pandemic is over. Is beginning / mid September a good time in Pattaya?
Also last time I was in Pattaya in 2016. I liked Russian establishments but the girls were unreachable (unaffordable for me). Have the prices went down or they still high for Russian girls. (I was quoted $500 USD LT -- that was more than the whole budget for my trip at the time) . Maybe somebody would suggest where could I take European girls rather than in gentlemen's club so it's a little cheaper.[/QUOTE]Don't go to Thailand to find Russian girls, go somewhere else.
I sometimes will travel out of Pattaya with a lady for 2 or 3 days. Normally, the trips are okay, but on the first day of my current trip, the lady announced she just started her period.
Yes, before I book the trip, I ask the lady about timing of her period, this one told me "no problem."
Disaster.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2793145]So you BB with 75% of the chicks that you were with but some say this is very hard to find. Did you negotiate it beforehand or just go with the flow?[/QUOTE]I negotiated with 2 up front in Camel Toe and Maggie Mays. The Windmill girl was very new so I knew she wouldn't ask for a condom and I was right. One girl from Heaven Above insisted on using it. My buddy who joined me also took a Windmill girl. She asked for condom but he told her she could leave if that was the condition. She stayed and he even had her over another night. I don't think he used a condom with any of the girls. I think its fairly easy to get BBFS but if you choose some pro bar girl from a go go maybe chances are less. Gentlemen clubs, beer bars and newer girls your chances are much better.
Hide the Winning and Children.
6,000 American Semen are expected to arrive shortly. Talk about 2 week millionaire s. I'm assuming they got nothing to spend on while cruising the Persian Gulf.
To these guys every girl is Hot. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2793353]I negotiated with 2 up front in Camel Toe and Maggie Mays. The Windmill girl was very new so I knew she wouldn't ask for a condom and I was right. One girl from Heaven Above insisted on using it. My buddy who joined me also took a Windmill girl. She asked for condom but he told her she could leave if that was the condition. She stayed and he even had her over another night. I don't think he used a condom with any of the girls. I think its fairly easy to get BBFS but if you choose some pro bar girl from a go go maybe chances are less. Gentlemen clubs, beer bars and newer girls your chances are much better.[/QUOTE]I keep a supply of condoms by my bed, for use if the lady is high volume, or if she does not use any birth control.
Thai condoms are usually too small, so I stock up when I travel abroad.
But no, I never have covered BJs.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2793329]I sometimes will travel out of Pattaya with a lady for 2 or 3 days. Normally, the trips are okay, but on the first day of my current trip, the lady announced she just started her period.
Yes, before I book the trip, I ask the lady about timing of her period, this one told me "no problem."
Disaster.[/QUOTE]I have been lucky with Thai girls so far. But when I was working in China I had lots of bad luck with women and their periods arriving at bad times. Just the luck of the draw I guess. Most women are not like clockwork unless they are on the pill.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2793329]I sometimes will travel out of Pattaya with a lady for 2 or 3 days. Normally, the trips are okay, but on the first day of my current trip, the lady announced she just started her period.
Yes, before I book the trip, I ask the lady about timing of her period, this one told me "no problem."
Disaster.[/QUOTE]Just tell her to get the yellow foam piece from 7-11 and stick that in as stop-gap. Many will do without even telling you they are on period, some are open about it, some try to hide.
If she told no problem, would have thought she was prepared for that foam thingy anyway.
If shallow pussy and / or big dick, can clearly feel bottoming, so need to be careful!
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2793406]Just tell her to get the yellow foam piece from 7-11 and stick that in as stop-gap. Many will do without even telling you they are on period, some are open about it, some try to hide.
If she told no problem, would have thought she was prepared for that foam thingy anyway.
If shallow pussy and / or big dick, can clearly feel bottoming, so need to be careful![/QUOTE]The lady went to the pharmacy to buy something to stop her period. No idea if it will work.
Just amazed how much the bar fines are now. You paid 2 k BF and 3 k for the girl. Hardly a bargain but what understand, it's more or less the going rate.
I stayed in a couple different hotels near Soi Buakow and agree that the noise, traffic and general chaos can be overwhelming. Could not imagine living in that environment day in and day out. It would be soul-crushing at least for me.
[QUOTE=YuriB;2793254]I am planning my trip, now when pandemic is over. Is beginning / mid September a good time in Pattaya?
Also last time I was in Pattaya in 2016. I liked Russian establishments but the girls were unreachable (unaffordable for me). Have the prices went down or they still high for Russian girls. (I was quoted $500 USD LT -- that was more than the whole budget for my trip at the time) . Maybe somebody would suggest where could I take European girls rather than in gentlemen's club so it's a little cheaper.[/QUOTE]I have paid for a couple of Russian girls to meet me in Thailand. They want to go there for a holiday.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2793406]Just tell her to get the yellow foam piece from 7-11 and stick that in as stop-gap. Many will do without even telling you they are on period, some are open about it, some try to hide.
If she told no problem, would have thought she was prepared for that foam thingy anyway.
If shallow pussy and / or big dick, can clearly feel bottoming, so need to be careful![/QUOTE]Many do not have regular time periods. I have experienced after one good guck they start the period. It is very inconvenient for me if planned stay is few days. Do not want to kick her out when she is suffering. At the same time only few girls agree for sex during their period. It is painful and they feel it is dirty.
[QUOTE=ChaChumplin;2792479]Problem with Songrjkran is a lot of Girls go home to their Village.
So much so you can tell the difference. Add to that numbers are already down.
Just keep your enthusiasm in Check.[/QUOTE]Did red planet honor the $126 weekly rate published on their website?
Catwalk Agogo opened near Airport Agogo Soi 15.
Flex Agogo opened opposite Coco Agogo in windmill alley.
Kite festival going on on windy beach road with various colorful shaped balloons in the air. Causing traffic bottlenecks and the working girls not liking loosing attention.
Special vip band at Rolling Stones house. I believe you have to buy red label bottle for entry.
Does anyone know how the cigarette magician stick burning cigarettes in stranger's shirt and pulls cigarettes out of his trousers?
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2793406]Just tell her to get the yellow foam piece from 7-11 and stick that in as stop-gap. Many will do without even telling you they are on period, some are open about it, some try to hide.
If she told no problem, would have thought she was prepared for that foam thingy anyway.
If shallow pussy and / or big dick, can clearly feel bottoming, so need to be careful![/QUOTE]The yellow foam thing or birth control iud? Are very uncomfortable and painful for us when having sex. And the girls don't even realize it.
Your options are HJ BJ or sex in pool / jacuzzi / ocean / shower.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;2793435]Just amazed how much the bar fines are now. You paid 2 k BF and 3 k for the girl. Hardly a bargain but what understand, it's more or less the going rate.
I stayed in a couple different hotels near Soi Buakow and agree that the noise, traffic and general chaos can be overwhelming. Could not imagine living in that environment day in and day out. It would be soul-crushing at least for me.[/QUOTE]If and when I paid that money I would get the deed done to my hearts content before any dining clubbing drinking. I have my place stocked with all the drinks and snacks.
I've made a few trips to Pattaya recently from Bangkok. The bus fare is super cheap. I usually book a hotel walking distance from Soi 6. I've haven't experimented much as I just been lookie-loo walking up and down Beach Rd and Soi 6. The foot traffic is super compact right now compared to last year which shouldn't be a surprise. I was pleased with what I saw in Soi 6. You can find young petite girls there. Walking street is so so. Maybe you find one looker if you stroll at the right time. I was able to hook up with a few girls that closely matched my criteria but those contacts were made using dating apps. I feel it takes awhile to uncover Pattaya because it's so seedy. I think you can get lucky at any given night and find a gem. Last time I was in the area I tried Ban Chang which is about an hour drive south from Pattaya. They have a small strip of bars but nothing stood out to me there. But the women there are eager to please. Jomtien just outside of Pattaya is also worth seeing at least once. I like to kick back there but I've yet to explore the bar scene action.
Their banner is all over the place. Oldest rock and roll bar? Agogo?
They have a four hour happy hour.
All I see is a few bored people sitting outside with a beer with 4/5's.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2793453]Many do not have regular time periods.[/QUOTE]The Thai girls who I've known well enough for me to track their periods have all been regular within a day. Think 5 regular periods out of 5 Thai girls. What I can say is that these same Thai girls do not track their periods as rigorously as the western girls that I've known.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;2793435]Just amazed how much the bar fines are now. You paid 2 k BF and 3 k for the girl. Hardly a bargain but what understand, it's more or less the going rate.
I stayed in a couple different hotels near Soi Buakow and agree that the noise, traffic and general chaos can be overwhelming. Could not imagine living in that environment day in and day out. It would be soul-crushing at least for me.[/QUOTE]Actually 2 K BF and 3 K to the girl is a good deal from a GoGo bar. It was for long time. My buddy took a girl from 7 pm to 7 am and took one from 10 pm to 7 am. These were young 20 year old fresh ones too. You can get much cheaper. I fucked a couple in Gentlemens Clubs for 1 K plus 300 for room as well. Depends what you want. I tried a variety of things.
Whatever medicine the lady having her period took, it worked. At bed time, she asked to be fucked, but I declined, since I wasn't sure it was 100% effective. She asked me to promise to fuck her the next night.
Note: she was pretty drunk, normally, she is a dead fish lay.
If you are a newbie to Pattaya, I should tell you that most ladies don't ask for sex, they grab your dick. So, the current lady would be considered shy.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2793462]The yellow foam thing or birth control iud? Are very uncomfortable and painful for us when having sex. And the girls don't even realize it.
Your options are HJ BJ or sex in pool / jacuzzi / ocean / shower.[/QUOTE]It's just small yellow foam piece you can stick into bottom of pussy, not any birth control device. I guess made for this purpose, or possibly to be used as temp tampon, not sure. Not uncommon for girls to have one in their handbag, but yes many simply don't feel comfortable to have sex if period comes also. To each of their own.
Yes I don't like it either due to bottoming to it. But what can you do if she sticks it in prior to the fuck without telling you! Just ride like your car with half the cylinders off
If on LLT deal works as temp tool and can fuck every day without the mess. But can not bang with full swing without breaking your dick 555.
I don't track anyone's period, I just ask them if they have their period before I go with them.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2793453]At the same time only few girls agree for sex during their period. It is painful and they feel it is dirty.[/QUOTE]Painful and dirty? We are definitely hanging with different crowds. The chicks I know will try to get over with the yellow sponge as if nothing is wrong, until my dick starts poking it and I am like what the fuck is that? Take that shit out.
Don't know what this shit is doing in my drawer. I must have bought it to show on here before.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2793460]Does anyone know how the cigarette magician stick burning cigarettes in stranger's shirt and pulls cigarettes out of his trousers?[/QUOTE]With a fake thumb.
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCkozSCYe1posLlfjUhaJOkw[/URL]
Bars close all day March 6.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2793458]Did red planet honor the $126 weekly rate published on their website?[/QUOTE]If it's on Expedia no worries.
On my one week stay I paid $6 a night more for bteere located Hotels.
May never stay at Red Planet Again. It kind of is in the middle of nowhere.
Yesterday on TF met a chick that is not a dancer, waitress, mamasan, or janitor at a famous place that sounds like Pinwheel. She said that she could come over when she got off work at 3 am. Yeah whatever lady. I am going to sleep. It was like 8:30 then. At 4 am I got up to go to the toilet and had a message from her saying she had just finished work. She asked if I wanted her to come over. Keep sleeping or get some pussy? Sure come on over. She said how much you give me and being the creature of habit that I am I said 1000. She said ok on the way.
She got here and got right in bed. I said go wash that shit off your face. She went into the bathroom and washed her face and came back to get in the bed. I said you did not take a shower. She said I am not dirty. I only stayed inside and counted out 180,000 baht for tonight. I said you were still outside.
So she jumped up to take a shower and came and got in the bed once again. This time her mouth went straight for my dick. As they usually do, she hopped right on without saying anything about a condom. Almost 7 am and she is sleeping. Guess I will do the same for another couple of hours before I wake her up for round 2.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2793717]Painful and dirty? We are definitely hanging with different crowds. The chicks I know will try to get over with the yellow sponge as if nothing is wrong, until my dick starts poking it and I am like what the fuck is that? Take that shit out.
[/QUOTE]So they sell those contraptions in TH especially for girls who want to go on working when on their rags? I remember once my cock hurt inside a girl. I wondered what the cause might have been. My first thought was not enough lube, but I then noticed only one side of my knob was chafed. I try to keep tabs on girls' periods but when I ask they invariably say their period ended days ago. Thank you for the pic, I'm going to send a modified version of it to girls whom I suspect may want to play that game with me:
Bolt taxi is barely functional in Pattaya now. Sometimes you have to wait 30 minutes to get a ride.
There simply aren't enough drivers to handle the current load. Too many customers.
I have a lady staying with me in Pattaya for 4 nights. Last night, we went to Maggie Mays, and barfined a young Cambodian lady, luckily, she lived in Samut Prakan and could speak Thai.
She is physically larger than most Thai ladies, but has a decent sized rack. After drinking tequila for an hour, she got randy, and took off her top. The other lady ignored her.
I suspect her lack of English is a barrier to her getting many customers. And, after a week of little action, having a dick to play with can be a plus for a lady. So she played with my dick, until I returned the favor and worked her pussy until she was tired. At which point, I sent her back to the bar, saving myself for lady #1.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2794182]Bolt taxi is barely functional in Pattaya now. Sometimes you have to wait 30 minutes to get a ride.
There simply aren't enough drivers to handle the current load. Too many customers.[/QUOTE]Um. Yeah okay. My app says 4 minutes for a car. Who the fuck takes taxis in Pattaya? You getting enough sleep?
Reports Prostitute BF robbed customer.
I'd lay odds Explorer involved. Haha. No offense.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2794182]Bolt taxi is barely functional in Pattaya now. Sometimes you have to wait 30 minutes to get a ride.
There simply aren't enough drivers to handle the current load. Too many customers.[/QUOTE]Not just that. In the evening it takes 45 min to go 2 km so unless the Bolt happens to be around the corner, it takes far too long to get there. Street taxis are available but forget about the meter. Minimum 200 B to go anywhere within city limits.
[QUOTE=LightMan1988;2779725]Folks returning to Pattaya after 3 years. Some questions.
1) Is Rasputin still open?[/QUOTE]Out getting some exercise this morning.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2794243]Street taxis are available but forget about the meter. Minimum 200 B to go anywhere within city limits.[/QUOTE]Meanwhile, meter from Bangkok airport 1099.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2794243]Street taxis are available but forget about the meter. Minimum 200 B to go anywhere within city limits.[/QUOTE]Opps. Forgot the pic.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2794243] Street taxis are available but forget about the meter. Minimum 200 B to go anywhere within city limits.[/QUOTE]To this day I have yet to ever get a Pattaya taxi to turn on a meter.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2794182]Bolt taxi is barely functional in Pattaya now. Sometimes you have to wait 30 minutes to get a ride.
There simply aren't enough drivers to handle the current load. Too many customers.[/QUOTE]Hmmmm. About a week ago I used Bolt in North Pattaya and it was quick, easy, and cheap. This was about 4 km north of Soi 6. My first ride was at about 18:00 and my second ride was at about 22:00. No problem either time. Thailand is totally different when you get away from the red light areas, which apparently applies to transportation.
The prior night was before I had the Bolt App. I used taxi to get to and from the red light district. I had no complaints with taxi, but it was a little more expensive, I think I paid 150 baht for each 4 km taxi ride.
I haven't tried out this app in Pattaya but I know it works. Fares are not fixed by the app. Instead the app gives you a ballpark figure which you may accept or modiy (a kind of auction). Waiting times are bound to be the same as in Bolt though. Still, worth a try.
[QUOTE=Expat American;2794243]Not just that. In the evening it takes 45 min to go 2 km so unless the Bolt happens to be around the corner, it takes far too long to get there. Street taxis are available but forget about the meter. Minimum 200 B to go anywhere within city limits.[/QUOTE]
I rode with Bolt today morning from Jomtien Beach to Big C Pattaya Klang, then back one hour later. One-way fares were between 70 and 80 Baht. I guess the high rates and high waiting times have more to to with the traffic jams on Beach Rd, 2nd Rd and Soi Bukhao than with anything else. If drivers can circumvent those, fares go back to normal. Also, I wouldn't put it past Taxis to intimidate Bolt drivers in central Pattaya. A Bolt driver may not consider picking you up, say on 2nd Road outside Soi 6, because Bolt drivers know Taxis are parked in ambush there. If you can't secure a ride on Bolt or if your rides gets cancelled at short notice, look around for green and yellow thugs, they may be the reason for what is happening.
My buddy said there are a lot of Russians on Beach Road. He got one yesterday for 1000 baht. He thought it would be trouble, but turned out to be a good experience.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2794308]My buddy said there are a lot of Russians on Beach Road. He got one yesterday for 1000 baht. He thought it would be trouble, but turned out to be a good experience.[/QUOTE]Anyone else seeing Russians streetwalking or freelancing in Pattaya?
I have been looking for such in Phuket, so far without any real visible signs of it.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2794308]My buddy said there are a lot of Russians on Beach Road. He got one yesterday for 1000 baht. He thought it would be trouble, but turned out to be a good experience.[/QUOTE]In the past, "Russian" ladies working Beach road are usually from central Asia. To me, most looked more Turkish than Russian, and they spoke Russian with a strange accent.
Strangely, I did a central Asian lady in Moscow (from Uzbekistan), and she looked Thai, not Turkish, and certainly not Russian.
So, you think your Pattaya bargirls really loves you?
One bargirl posts photos of me on her Facebook every day. You would think that maybe she likes me.
But no, she has a Farang boyfriend who pays her 20,000 baht and gives her gold. So, maybe she likes him.
But no, she has a Thai husband who she supports. So, maybe she really loves him.
I'm not sure. Maybe she loves one of her customers at the bar this week.
The point is not to get emotionally involved with a bar girl. They are great at acting like they are in love. And removing your money.
Yes, during my last trip and while coming back to my room at around 2.30 am saw few CIS chicks who were not picked up in Tony bar as I was there for a pretty long time on my last night. They recognized me and I too recalled seeing them. Not pretty, fat and old. They started calling me Janu Janu, take us; short time long time. I said no as had an early morning flight back to my country. Not pretty chicks but yes I did see them too.
Regards.
[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2794367]Anyone else seeing Russians streetwalking or freelancing in Pattaya?
I have been looking for such in Phuket, so far without any real visible signs of it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=XXL;2794303]I haven't tried out this app in Pattaya but I know it works. Fares are not fixed by the app. Instead the app gives you a ballpark figure which you may accept or modiy (a kind of auction). Waiting times are bound to be the same as in Bolt though. Still, worth a try.
I rode with Bolt today morning from Jomtien Beach to Big C Pattaya Klang, then back one hour later. One-way fares were between 70 and 80 Baht. I guess the high rates and high waiting times have more to to with the traffic jams on Beach Rd, 2nd Rd and Soi Bukhao than with anything else. If drivers can circumvent those, fares go back to normal. Also, I wouldn't put it past Taxis to intimidate Bolt drivers in central Pattaya. A Bolt driver may not consider picking you up, say on 2nd Road outside Soi 6, because Bolt drivers know Taxis are parked in ambush there. If you can't secure a ride on Bolt or if your rides gets cancelled at short notice, look around for green and yellow thugs, they may be the reason for what is happening.[/QUOTE]About a month ago the taxi association LOL, guess put so much pressure on the boys in brown Soi 9, there was a crackdown on the Bolt operation there was a major crackdown around Central Plaza that netted a lot of Bolt drivers not having licenses to operate or the vehicle under that license was not the correct vehicle or the insurance was not for commercial purposes but for personal use only thus if the vehicle is in an accident and found to be operating no coverage. To operate under that license. A regular Bolt driver who hangs around my son comes over to the house once a week to play the music they have this one-man band system they seem to get off on for hours. He works on call on the Darkside or to the airport but doesn't venture into town if stopped it is a 2000 baht fine even confiscation of a vehicle same with motorbikes. It seems now along with more people there are fewer drivers servicing into town.
Will be a circus. Sound checks from bands were already on at 5 pm.
All food stalls open. 5 b sushi. 159 b 3 slice person pan pizza. With pineapple California style.
Saw a few Agogo girls including Fahrenheit at 5 pm. A pin up girl there with a cute puppy in a fancy bag cage quoted 3000 b to my room.
Beach road and second road will be a parking lot with the local crowd and usual weekend Bangkok crowd added in. Don't bother getting a taxi or baht bus. You can walk or swim a lot faster.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2794308]My buddy said there are a lot of Russians on Beach Road. He got one yesterday for 1000 baht. He thought it would be trouble, but turned out to be a good experience.[/QUOTE]Unless this is just a special case of a russian girl having a fling with someone she likes, times indeed are a changing if russians available at same rate as locals. So many russians here now due to the war that not all wealthy, and those who not have to make ends meet somehow. Personally not into russsians at all so won't try even if cheap.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2794589]Unless this is just a special case of a russian girl having a fling with someone she likes, times indeed are a changing if russians available at same rate as locals. So many russians here now due to the war that not all wealthy, and those who not have to make ends meet somehow. Personally not into russsians at all so won't try even if cheap.[/QUOTE]In Pattaya I have gotten decent looking Russian girls for below 1000 b. I have seen their passport at check in.
And they do okay job.
But something about their demeanor leaves a slightly bad aftertaste.
[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2794367]Anyone else seeing Russians streetwalking or freelancing in Pattaya?
I have been looking for such in Phuket, so far without any real visible signs of it.[/QUOTE]I saw a few. Didn't talk to them though.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2794589]Unless this is just a special case of a russian girl having a fling with someone she likes, times indeed are a changing if russians available at same rate as locals. So many russians here now due to the war that not all wealthy, and those who not have to make ends meet somehow. Personally not into russsians at all so won't try even if cheap.[/QUOTE]Virtually all of the Russian women in Pattaya come with their Russian husbands or boyfriends. If they are working, it is to support their Significant Other, who may be a draft dodger.
And, no, they generally don't have flings with men from other countries.
As the war drags on, you will see more Russian women working. If there is a new mobilization, Pattaya would be truly flooded with Russians.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2794398]In the past, "Russian" ladies working Beach road are usually from central Asia. To me, most looked more Turkish than Russian, and they spoke Russian with a strange accent.
Strangely, I did a central Asian lady in Moscow (from Uzbekistan), and she looked Thai, not Turkish, and certainly not Russian.[/QUOTE]I did quite a few Russian girls in my time in Europe. I can confirm mosts "Russians" I've seen prostituting in Thailand are not the russian type. If you want to know what I mean by russian type, watch russian couples in town. It would be great if we had access to those genuine russian girls.
Hi All,
Serial lurker here who has had a lot of help from the forums around the world mainly Angeles, Thailand, and maybe Santiago a few years back.
Finally had the headspace to diarise my escapades after a couple of years break from mongering in asia due to work.
Anyway thanks for all the help via your contributions and hoping that this report can help others out about the latest rates and provide some entertainment.
For background I'm late 30's, dancing with burnout over last 2 years at work, trying to focus on quality not quantity but found it difficult due to percieved and real time pressures = 12 nights only on this trip and no idea if I can get a major break back until end of the year again due to work. For context, I had been quite healthy in the past running and boxing but work killed that recently so in this trip I was running 5 days and lifting back in the gym quite a bit 5 days a week which in hindsight was pretty stupid considering trying to get my rocks off twice a day. I also used kamagra for a good portion of the time probably 8 days out of the 12, just found it was no fuss rock hard action and as I was working out so heavily at times I didn't use it I wast enjoying the condom based sex so much as I've come of a condom free LTR 2 months ago back at home.
Oh I also partake in GG and LBs. I choose Patts specifically for the beach and LBs vs Angeles even though I know A is much cheaper I find the LBs arent as hot / progressed in thier hormones & boobs etc.
Enough about me, here's to the report from mid Feb.
Monday night.
Land around 9 PM after connecting flights totalling 13 hours or so from AUS into bkk.
Head over to Woodbar chased 'G' as thier website reports on whos tops is pretty accurate I've found.
G wasnt in probably bar fined, I know a back up no. 35 from the site and choose her although she's chunky because the cutie I was eyeing wasnt interested.
800 be plus 60 be water 100 be beer no35 performs as desired taking the deepthroat down to the root and getting a big finish to start the trip with a bang.
Next morning I wake at 6 am and look up TF for an incall LB. She comes over, tight body, face differenet to pics but oh well. She stuck her tongue so far up my arse I though she lost something in there. Poor head, only tip. Total dmg 1 k one full hour. Too tired and had to fend her off trying to mount me repeatedly haha (I'm not there and don't plan to be anything other than top).
Taxi to pattaya Tuesday evening, checked into a good hotel north end of beach road and got a free upgrade to beach facing balcony room. Hooray (I do have mid tier status with holiday inn though).
What better way then to start with soi6 - work my way up and down soi6 and end up in a session with someone in kawai bar. Died hair, took a beating for 1300+400 room. I was startled by the 1300 cost for the girl and not 1000 however 2 out of 2 quoted this so I assumed it just went up. Later I found that many are still charging 1000 for ST <.
Wednesday. Woke up on east coast aus time so headed to beach road 430 am. Scouted around and picked up a spinner Min who asked for 2 k have her 1500 from 5-9 am, lovely girl and she took two massive rounds because I couldn't shoot off.
Wednesday evening on the way to soi 6 - massage girl Anne massive jugs avg massage for 30 min and asked me for 1 k for handy, I gave 700+ 300 shop for tits out HJ. She did a good job and didn't complain too much that I take long. She'd probably come back to my room if I ask. End up at soi 6 drained so bought a hottie Jenny a drink from Sex in the City bar, forgot the names of a couple of others. At this point I might add that I had a strategy of keeping my east coast aus wake up and sleep timing to pick off some beach road specials early morning. Only majr flaw was that ID have to sleep by 7 pm to get a good 7 or 8 hours sleep. It was a fun experiment and I used many early morning wake ups to run in the cooler weather to Jomtien.
Thursday morning 430 - pick up on coconut, lbs and less girls out in coconut bar due to rain Thursday afternoon. Ended up with a rock hard body LB and asked her for 500 be for BJ only she said yup. Ended up banging her and giving 1 k after a good 45 min of fun.
Thursday arvo. Forgot to note the session, can't remember where it came from.
Friday 4 am vsexy LB pick up walking st however bought her ad 2 friends some pad thai turns into 4 meals etc so I said please respect my $ if your buying takeaway packs for a friend I didn't know etc. Hot LB proceeds to try and lecture me about the fact that she can pay, I listen for 2 min and say cya later, I'm not paying for a lecture by a pro cum guzzler.
Chose another LB, can't remeber the details.
Friday lunchtime. Great 1500 be+400 for massage with a tiny spinner that walks in and acts like my long lost GF immediately. Massage was good too. Tight 44 kg bod, this is what I'm here for, ended up repeting a few days later and skipped the massage. Here I will add I have been tipping nearly all only 100 be for good service.
Friday evening joined all star cruise. Aka LB loveboat for 1200 be via an agent not 1800 be as advertised direct.
Met a cool dude, took great pics groping and bending over the hot LB dancers in front of dumbass foreign families which was fucking hilarious as they thought we were nice guys initially (passing them cokes etc LOL). Didn't feel easy to grab thier numbers which was the previous thought process but oh well.
Finished with bar hop and Lb 1000 on coconut. Hot * that bounced hard on me and took a mean doggy to trance music. Good fun. Probably thefirst night I had 8 drinks not 2.
Sat.
Got 6 hrs sleep, woke up 6 am and jumped on TF. Pulled a little 35 kg spinner, shit attitude when she arrived and she paid for it. Took a beating beautiful body as she does workout. Made her limp to the bathroom which serves her right and made me giggle. 1500 be +100 tip.
Sunday.
Day. Grabbed a cheeky 600 be lb BJ in room (cheeky because its the lowest I offered in this trip so far for in my room service), good performer but I just found it hard to cum. She kept at it though and jerked me into her mouth. Came back after a year in Dubai so I guess she liked brown boys like me.
Check out from holiday inn to arbour.
Sunday evening.
Grab a gorgeous spinner from TF. 1500st. She's from Cambodia and classy tiny look to boot, probably my fav girl of the trip.
Turns up and. Wouldn't stop blowing me, had a lot of laughs together before we got into it, she took a fucking belting for a good 25 min, playful till the end even though her tiny pussy was sore. Bloody will repeat. Well I tried but someone probably took her away for a few days trip and she only messaged that she's free after I'm on the drive back to airport.
Slept late at 830 ish because longer than expected good time with her 42 kg 26 yr old arse.
Monday.
Woke up dialled a tranny. Smoking body face half as good as pics. If I was an arsehole I woulda sent back. She put in the work during BJ though and went pretty deep but not for long enough. She wanted to top me. No thanks this decade.
She ended up jizzing on my chest. She ran a Double handjob which was hot actually. Stuck it back in her arse but she was in a bit of pain so 40 min of sex later I sent her back and hit the gym.
Monday lunch.
1230 - looked into TF while eating near hotel. Chick coming over for a 1000 be cum in mouth BJ session. Seems cute video called me to ensure I don't cancel. She turned out to be fun and cute, not a amazing looker but good fun performance.
Tuesday morning.
Super early LB incall from TF. 1000 be.
Finally someone who wasn't rushed and sucked a mean sausage. Didn't even bend her over because she was doing it so well, shot deep down her throat. YESSSSS Repeated twice with her more than anyone else haha.
Did a Decently big squat session.
Tuesday arvo.
Pretty tired, went in for a nice tbone. Tough and thin as a mofo at dragon wankers or some other name near LK metro -375 be I'll never see again. Couldn't finish it and ended up having a beef soup for 60 be that was way better at end of night.
Before that went to 007 BJ bar, a little cutie came outside just after finishing with a Korean customer, the big girls came for me as it was thier turn, I hung around with my drink for the cute one named "In" she Apparantly doesn't st but looks great. Didn't know how to handle a tired dick though LOL probably only used to seeing hard ones cause cute with big tits and tiny frame. Anyway she tried but didn't even start sucking for ages and jerking me until I got hard which didn't happen, eventually she started sucking. I quit at the 15 min mark didn't get off so a pretty avg night. Almost went next door but bad steak bad BJ was enough losses for one day. Should have taken kamagra!
Wednesday.
8. 5 km run to jomtein.
11 am called a 42 kg cutie from TF. Absolute GFE where she just lay around enjoying my comfy bed until I was ready.
Didn't mistake it this time and dunked some juju juice (kmag) especially since I had already lined up a barbie 44 kg with big bolt ONS at 2 pm. , smashed the hell out of her. She Left with a smile and 1500 be.
2:15 pm barbie turns up, even messaged me that she's running 15 min late which is almost a first. Anyway looks are about 70% of photoshop but she's tiny and bolt ONS are legit, also great attitude. I was on a mission as agreed amount was 2000 which is the highest I paid all trip. Needless to say I got my baht worth, doggy and gorilla (rise up to knuckles during doggy and kinda hammer diagonally down whwhich just an all out poounding) and she was pretty happy. Cuddles and see ya it's been a good action recovery day to make up for yesterday. Also had a brilliant tuna tartar upstairs. Restauraunt is awesome.
Thursday. Sat. Bit of a blur and I didn't record notes unfortunately. Repeated with LB deepthroater again then she was the last shot I got off before taxi back to bkk then back home. She fucking earned it for 30 min of BJ to get me off with no complaints just determination. Repeated with the tiny massage girl too. Didn't end up on long dates with anyone as I get sick of the girls but I would have like to do so with the hot cambodian.
Quick note on food, I stuck to local thai food and had some clean looking street food especially the griller mackeral. OMG wish I had that for 60 be at home (omega 3 baby). I went to one indian highly rated spot near holiday inn, it was 280 for a main and it was slightly burnt with clueless staff. The steak I tried was shithouse, and the khazacstanian spot I tried paid hgh price and long wait and average food. I had the most fun and best value eating seafood thai style. Bake and Brew is also a standout farang handout. I missed the fresh off the boat seafood at Jomtein after my runs but I went to wombat and kiwi bar twice which was good. I also did a asthana yoga session with a butch but hot russian instructor and had 2 ballerinas doing bends next to me. Fuck that was hot and helped me get my last load off into a LB mouth haha.
Will miss TL but next trip will be Angeles for 2-4 weeks as same action will be 40% cheaper.
I spend around 2 k on transpot including airfares. Hot tip you#get BOLT. It smashes grab in patts for price and availability.
700 on hotels as I got 1 week on points and booked arbour which is instagram model friendly for 99/ and.
Used elite fitness gym. Lovely spot good gear and awesome swiss protein bars. I wish I had some now.
Probably avg 1800 - 2 k per round so about 1800 aud but feels like 2500.
Hope you enjoyed guys, I'm in Columbia now and Santiago from Thursday 9th-17th, hope to get some help and hit me up if you like a cold one and to share monger stories in person.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2794511]So, you think your Pattaya bargirls really loves you?
One bargirl posts photos of me on her Facebook every day. You would think that maybe she likes me.
But no, she has a Farang boyfriend who pays her 20,000 baht and gives her gold. So, maybe she likes him.
But no, she has a Thai husband who she supports. So, maybe she really loves him.
I'm not sure. Maybe she loves one of her customers at the bar this week.
The point is not to get emotionally involved with a bar girl. They are great at acting like they are in love. And removing your money.[/QUOTE]Back in the day when I used to travel to Asia regularly I always saw a difference between the Thai girls and the Filipinas. When I would leave their country the Filipinas would have tears in their eyes upon goodbyes at the airport while the Thai's eyes would be dry. Did the Filipinas love me more than the Thais?
Soi Pothole got a fill in yesterday. I guess things are good for now until it rains. Also music festival in town. Hella traffic. Chick from Bangkok came down the other day to stay with me a few days. We went to the Sanctuary of Truth today. I had never been. Also met a guy that owns a bar today. He added me to a group and the first thing he sent was a flyer about a birthday party next week. Who was on the picture? One of my nieces' mom. I hit my brother and said looks like someone has a birthday coming up. He was like how do you even know that. Yeah. The streets talk. Just left Thepprasit Market. They are now open every evening starting 7 Feb.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2794862]Back in the day when I used to travel to Asia regularly I always saw a difference between the Thai girls and the Filipinas. When I would leave their country the Filipinas would have tears in their eyes upon goodbyes at the airport while the Thai's eyes would be dry. Did the Filipinas love me more than the Thais?[/QUOTE]A Thai lady will cry at the airport when saying goodbye to her Farang boyfriend.
She will be sad until her next customer arrives at the airport.
I had a lady come to the condo for drinks, and she told the classic story of being conned into working abroad. Her passport was taken, and she was forced to work for free. She ultimately escaped without her passport, but the local Thai consulate helped her.
She believes she was in Panama, but doesn't really know.
Strangely, after telling me that story, she was hot to trot.
Interesting that she did not even know what country she was in. Remarkable really to be that clueless. If so, you can see how she got trapped in this scam to begin with. Panama has a very liberal visa entry policy for Thais. Think it's at least 90 days and this visa policy is similar to Peru and other SA country for Thais due to a reciprocity program both countries maintain.
However, having spent time in Panama, Colombia, Peru etc I can safely say that I have never met any Thai citizens there. There are no direct flights from Asia either. One has to transit thru US or Australia to Chile to get to SA.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2794899]I had a lady come to the condo for drinks, and she told the classic story of being conned into working abroad. Her passport was taken, and she was forced to work for free. She ultimately escaped without her passport, but the local Thai consulate helped her.
She believes she was in Panama, but doesn't really know.
Strangely, after telling me that story, she was hot to trot.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tomasb;2795063]Interesting that she did not even know what country she was in. Remarkable really to be that clueless.[/QUOTE]Having the general knowledge about geography they have outside of close vicinity of their living / working area in their home country, not really surprising. For them Panama and Manama are both the same, and Namibia also indistinguishable.
Then, the other thing being that they talk so much BS and conflict themselves all the time, thus if not know based on other data points, hard to say whether she ever even went anywhere or rather telling 2nd hand stories
[QUOTE=Tomasb;2795063]However, having spent time in Panama, Colombia, Peru etc I can safely say that I have never met any Thai citizens there. [/QUOTE]I have met Thai people in Peru and Panama. In Lima a Thai lady has a Thai restaurant in Lince on Bernardo Alcedo. I always stop in and ask her if she has my khana mu gob yet.
Why is it that Thai chicks do not like to explain anything? After all this time, I am just noticing this lately. Whenever I ask a chick something and she answers I may ask why. She would rather change her answer than to explain why. Then when I ask why for that answer she is stumped.
Me: What is your favorite color?
Her: Red.
Me: Why?
Her: Blue.
Me: Why?
Her: Ow!
[QUOTE=Tomasb;2795063]Interesting that she did not even know what country she was in. Remarkable really to be that clueless. If so, you can see how she got trapped in this scam to begin with. Panama has a very liberal visa entry policy for Thais. Think it's at least 90 days and this visa policy is similar to Peru and other SA country for Thais due to a reciprocity program both countries maintain.
However, having spent time in Panama, Colombia, Peru etc I can safely say that I have never met any Thai citizens there. There are no direct flights from Asia either. One has to transit thru US or Australia to Chile to get to SA.[/QUOTE]I flew to Panama from Thailand via Istanbul, last year.
The lady told me she went to a country that was 5 hours from Bahrain, but then said she had a 3 hour stopover somewhere.
She said her customers were Arabs, and she was given Thai food.
No chance she was in Panama, but merely someplace with a similar name.
At any rate, doing dozens of customers in a short period of time probably killed her sex drive.
Detailed report. I enjoyed it. Please don't forget to leave notes for Angeles and Colombia. Thumbs up.
[QUOTE=Samsta;2794849]Hi All,
Serial lurker here who has had a lot of help from the forums around the world mainly Angeles, Thailand, and maybe Santiago a few years back.
Finally had the headspace to diarise my escapades after a couple of years break from mongering in asia due to work......[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2794897]A Thai lady will cry at the airport when saying goodbye to her Farang boyfriend.
She will be sad until her next customer arrives at the airport.[/QUOTE]The girls are sad because they are losing their ATM. This is true in Thailand and the PI. And as soon as you leave, another guy in in them balls deep and you are quickly forgotten.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2795090]Why is it that Thai chicks do not like to explain anything? After all this time, I am just noticing this lately. Whenever I ask a chick something and she answers I may ask why. She would rather change her answer than to explain why. Then when I ask why for that answer she is stumped.
Me: What is your favorite color?
Her: Red.
Me: Why?
Her: Blue.
Me: Why?
Her: Ow![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/584201/low-iq-levels-a-wake-up-call-for-thailand[/URL]
Typical IQ level in their circles is comparable to IQ of somewhat retarded person in the west. That's why.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2795157][URL]https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/584201/low-iq-levels-a-wake-up-call-for-thailand[/URL]
Typical IQ level in their circles is comparable to IQ of somewhat retarded person in the west. That's why.[/QUOTE]Our observations that make the girls seem less intelligent is probably a combination of several things. 1. Poor education. 2. Family life and culture (few bar girls were motivated to develop their minds). 3. We aren't meeting the brightest minds that Thailand has 4. Perhaps lower IQ in Thailand than other places, I had not previously thought about this possibility. 5. They are not speaking their native language.
Today Pattaya operating on extremely reduced efficiency since they have to close before midnight for tomorrow Buddha festival holiday.
LK champaign club, show girls, crystals, pandora, pure, paradise, bar fine did not even open.
Walking street hang over club understandingly did not open as they make money after midnight.
50% of the clubs that were open closed at midnight.
Don't expect too many clubs to be open after midnight tomorrow.
No alcohol sales and no open containers on the street tomorrow.
Light house club opened today!!
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2795116]I flew to Panama from Thailand via Istanbul, last year.
The lady told me she went to a country that was 5 hours from Bahrain, but then said she had a 3 hour stopover somewhere.
She said her customers were Arabs, and she was given Thai food.
No chance she was in Panama, but merely someplace with a similar name.
At any rate, doing dozens of customers in a short period of time probably killed her sex drive.[/QUOTE]I think she's saying "Manama" the capital of Bahrain.
Mentality of a Retard. So you spend a day to get to these retards and give them money. Makes sense. Hahahaha.
I think its the language Barrier that causes so much angst.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2795089]I have met Thai people in Peru and Panama. In Lima a Thai lady has a Thai restaurant in Lince on Bernardo Alcedo. I always stop in and ask her if she has my khana mu gob yet.[/QUOTE]Yep. I have been to that restaurant.
I went to the newly opened Catflaps in Pratumnak yesterday. Its a Gentlemens Club, still not completely open yet. I went to get a BJ, but there were no curtains around the sofa. Supposedly, the curtains will be installed Real Soon Now.
Only 7 ladies, not many customers, and the customers were only interested in talking with the manager. The ladies mostly played telephone.
They have a sexy older mamasan. I have seen her type before, no reason for a 60 year old Farang to barfine her, but a 30 year would jump on her.
I went during the soft opening. Supposedly, more ladies will be coming later.
The question about Catflaps is whether the fairly elegant interior is enough to distinguish it from the dozen other GCs in the area.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2795116]The lady told me she went to a country that was 5 hours from Bahrain, but then said she had a 3 hour stopover somewhere.
She said her customers were Arabs, and she was given Thai food.
No chance she was in Panama, but merely someplace with a similar name.[/QUOTE]How would she have even known which gate she was going to if she did not even know where she was going? Told you to stop getting them hoes drunk!
[QUOTE=Moegy;2795224]I think she's saying "Manama" the capital of Bahrain.[/QUOTE]I think you are right.
She probably flew into Bahrain, was rejected, flew out on a round trip ticket, and then returned to Bahrain to try again.
I often schedule ladies to come to my condo at 13.00. Around 12.00, I will look them up on Messenger to see if they are awake yet. If not, I will look to see at what time Messenger went inactive. Many times, it will show that it went inactive around 7 am, which is when many boy karaoke bars close. So, the lady left her bar at 1 am, went to a boy karaoke bar, stuck around until her toy boy got off work, and then went to sleep. Which means she is not making it to my condo at 13.00.
Given that they often harass me to get a date, you would think they would go to bed earlier the night before, but most Thai ladies truly cannot control themselves around Thai boys.
All experts in education outside and even inside of Thailand those who aren't afraid to speak out all concluded reason " Government " schools in general NO CRITICAL THINKING TAUGHT! They are also the year in and year out of all the ASEAN countries English Last. The more you talk the faster you talk the more questions you ask they will be left behind. It isn't that they are stupid can't be stupid if there isn't anyone to teach them what they need to know. Aside from math and science they aren't taught very much and asking questions rising your hands or saying you don't understand can you explain it again isn't going to happen in a Government school it is a lost of face.
Quick summary of a 1 month trip in which 1 and 1/2 weeks were spent in Pattaya.
In Pattaya stayed at the Holiday Inn Express. Would highly recommend, especially if you're a light sleeper. Soundproofed surprisingly well and everything was very modern and good condition. Bed was comfortable. Location was right on soi Buakhao right across the street from a TT exchange. To bring up guests, you both have to sign a waiver.
Soi Buakhao had a lot of talent. A lot of beautiful young Thai women screaming welcome. Also a few Africans walking around, or sitting at Treetown. Didn't pull any bar girls because not really the type that enjoys that scene. Mostly saw freelancers.
African girls all quoted 2000 baht ST to start. Usually fine haggling down if done with tact. Very few African girls around, maybe 10 ish. Of the 10, maybe 2-3 were bangable. Got with 2 of the 3. Both were Ugandans.
1. Offered 1500 to the first girl and she asked for Bolt fare so I upped to 1600. Beautiful spinner with an absolute amazing ass. Not the flabby shit typical of African girls and not flat as a board like most Thai spinners. Just beautiful Ugandan genetics on a early to mid 20's girl. She started off with a great uncovered blow and then put on the cover to ride cowgirl. Cowgirl was amazing. She was tight and going at it hard. Probably trying to pop me off quickly but I last a while. She didn't complain. Eventually lifted her and said it's time for doggy. Lasted about 15 minutes in cowgirl, but seeing that beautiful ass from behind, I popped in maybe 5 minutes. She cleaned up and I offered her water. Chatted a little bit and I told her about my preference for African girls because of their curves. Told her I wanted to go to Kenya for that reason and she said no, Kenyan girls don't know how to have a good time like Ugandans and Ugandans are more beautiful. Obvious bias there, but seeing her body, pretty compelling case. Sent her on her way. No problems and was pleasant enough. Not really GFE, but a nice girl who offered a pretty professional experience without being cold or a starfish. Would fuck again. OF NOTE: WAS ACTUALLY PERFECTLY ON TIME FOR OUR APPOINTMENT.
2. Another Ugandan girl. Accepted the 1500 counter offer without further haggling. Bigger girl than #1 and definitely not as nice of a body. Not the perfect slim with a shapely booty that was #1. More of a chubby girl with a biggish ass. Didn't ask her she but was older she than #1. Probably 30's. Uncovered blow. Didn't initiate cowgirl, so just flipped her to missionary. Not as tight as #1. Went a bit in missionary and was kind of losing integrity of my member because of lack of tightness. Asked to hit it from behind. Nice view, but again not like the perfect view of #1. Couldn't blow from fucking, so asked her to finish with her mouth and hands. She said sure but to tell her when I was going to pop. Pretty decent effort and I popped on her breasts. Offered water and chatted about nothing in particular and she went on her way. Meh experience, not sure if I'the repeat.
3. Early 20's Thai girl off TF. Spinner with what looked like a nice ass. Offered 1500, she countered 2000. Whatever, seemed like gals in their 20's were at a premium so I accepted. Set up an appointment. She was 30 minutes late. Didn't acknowledge it so I didn't say anything. Up we went. Clothes off, see pretty significant baby damage. Disappointed. Cock in her mouth, less disappointed. Going at it pretty fast and with good suction. Put on the rubber and go in missionary. She gets into it and is moaning and getting very wet. Flip her to doggy and go at it like a maniac. She's moaning even harder and gripping the bed sheet. Pop in doggy. Give her the 2000, she showers, see ya later. Not a bad experience, but probably wouldn't repeat especially since 1500 seems like the fair going rate. Finding out that the standard petite and slim sans ass build of Thai girls isn't really my thing.
4. Mid to late 20's thicker Thai girl off of TF. Asked her TF price and got 1500. Sure. Over 30 minutes late. Asked her if she's close because if not we'll just have to reschedule because I have somewhere to be. She arrived and apologizes for being late. Up we go. Great blow. Usually like the fast, porn star blow, but she went slow and sensual with great suction and tongue action. Put on the rubber and she initiated cowgirl. Started at a reasonable pace with some sensual grinding. She gets wetter and I pull her to my chest and start jackhammering. She loves it and is moaning. Pop. She's very bubbly and giggly. Would say fairly GFE. A little unimportant chitchat and she's off on her way. Nice experience and nice girl. A bit bigger than her pics on TF. Maybe would repeat, but there are better lookers out there.
5. Another mid to late 20's Thai girl off of TF. 1500ST. Over 30 minutes late. Notice the pattern? Nicely tanned girl with some beautiful curves. Amazing cocksucker. So much so that I didn't even bang her. Just almost 30 minutes of her going to work with her mouth. Had agreed to pop in her mouth during our chat on TF, and so I did. She kept going to make sure I was empty and then spit out the goods in the toilet. Another sweet and bubbly girl. Actually took her out to dinner after. Repeated several times during the trip.
6. Late 20's early 30's girl off TF. 1500ST. Late, but not excessively. Average blow and out on the rubber. Says we have to be quick because she has to be at work in the morning. Beautiful white body with chubby curves. Didn't want to cowgirl because she said too tired? Hit in missionary and then flipped doggy where I went hard, maybe partly out of frustration over the lack of cowgirl. Popped and gave her the 1500. On her way. Was nice, but a bit rushed. Was late in the night so I am inclined to believe her excuse. She was also fairly tired. Still probably wouldn't repeat because of the lazy performance considering the other options available.
*7. Slim girl with a nice ass off of TF. Braided hair and a profile pic at the 808 club. I'm absolutely a sucker for the ghetto look. Find it incredibly sexy. Offered 1500. Accepted but chat was very slow and to the point. Initially ask her to come over in an hour. Says she's a bit far so asked if she could make it in a 1 and 1/2? Sure, whatever. Have to mention this was also past midnight and the street scene slows heavily after 01:00 ish. Over 1 1/2 hours later I text her on LINE asking if she's close? Gets back to me 30 minutes later and says sorry, can't make it and can we reschedule? Heated because it was too late for other options and it was my last day in Pattaya. Contemplate telling her to go fuck herself, but thought better of it. Not a pleasant way to end a good trip in Pattaya.
All in all, it was a good experience. Went in mid February and it is PACKED now. I haven't kept up with the forum, but if there are any doom and gloom forecasters still around, suffice to say they're wrong. A recession and hyper inflation be damned, Pattaya is flooded with tourists once again. Shithead Russians, shithead Chinese and shithead Indians in massive crowds. Thai girls were sweethearts and 1500 is the ST going rate, at least for ST. Apologies for no intel for the bar scene but like I said, I am not a fan at all. Outside of an experience in Sosua, this was my first extended experience mongering. Thailand is as newbie friendly as it gets imo. A lot of people speak English, it's incredibly safe, it's fairly cheap and the infrastructure is top notch.
That being said, I think I would like to try an African country for my next misadventure. Everyone has different tastes, but my god, the African ladies have beautiful bodies. Just have these curves that you absolutely will not find in Thai girls. And the standard for beauty is different. Small, skinny, white and with no curves is the ideal profile for the Thai demographic. Not a big fan. Will put sometime into researching a good African mongering country for a newbie, but I realize it won't compare to Thailand in terms of everything else outside of girls. See'est la vie.
*I'm fairly young still (in my mid to late 30's) but I am a slow and boring type. Pattaya was an absolute great change of pace coming from hectic BKK. Absolutely hated BKK, but that's for another post.
At 5 pm all the tents were selling bottled beers and bottles of whiskey for their patrons blatantly.
Hooters open selling soft drinks.
Bar beers and gogo and street food vendors closed. Walking street depressing. Reminded of Tijuana Mexico during lock down.
Some places might open midnight.
I asked a beach road girl why there are plethora of huge Indian groups crowding the beach road (never seen any thing like this before). She said because discos closed. She had a point.
10,000 baht fine for establishment or individuals caught drinking on the streets.
Vendors surreptitiously selling beer on the street.
Massage parlors restaurants and dope joints open.
90 minutes to go.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2795404] Aside from math and science they aren't taught very much and asking questions rising your hands or saying you don't understand can you explain it again isn't going to happen in a Government school it is a lost of face.[/QUOTE]One of my friends in USA is a Thai lady who received her pre-18 education from an expensive private school in Bangkok, undergraduate degree in Canada, and graduate degree in USA. She would disagree with you and say math and science isn't really taught in Thailand schools. We had that discussion a few years ago and she was extremely negative about the whole Thai education system. I remember asking what they do teach and she basically said culture.
I have a few well educated Thai friends who are far more capable than typical P4P girls, but even these well Thai educated people seem to have a screw loose in one area or another.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2795269]I went to the newly opened Catflaps in Pratumnak yesterday. Its a Gentlemens Club, still not completely open yet.[/QUOTE]Thanks. It's a block from Kinnaree so the location is very good. Are there going to be actual large rooms with showers like Kinnaree has?
[QUOTE=BPalacio;2795431]Quick summary of a 1 month trip in which 1 and 1/2 weeks were spent in Pattaya.
In Pattaya stayed at the Holiday Inn Express. Would highly recommend, especially if you're a light sleeper. Soundproofed surprisingly well and everything was very modern and good condition. Bed was comfortable. Location was right on soi Buakhao right across the street from a TT exchange. To bring up guests, you both have to sign a waiver.
Soi Buakhao had a lot of talent. A lot of beautiful young Thai women screaming welcome. Also a few Africans walking around, or sitting at Treetown. Didn't pull any bar girls because not really the type that enjoys that scene. Mostly saw freelancers.
African girls all quoted 2000 baht ST to start. Usually fine haggling down if done with tact. Very few African girls around, maybe 10 ish. Of the 10, maybe 2-3 were bangable. Got with 2 of the 3. Both were Ugandans.
1. Offered 1500 to the first girl and she asked for Bolt fare so I upped to 1600. Beautiful spinner with an absolute amazing ass. Not the flabby shit typical of African girls and not flat as a board like most Thai spinners. Just beautiful Ugandan genetics on a early to mid 20's girl. She started off with a great uncovered blow and then put on the cover to ride cowgirl. Cowgirl was amazing. She was tight and going at it hard. Probably trying to pop me off quickly but I last a while. She didn't complain. Eventually lifted her and said it's time for doggy. Lasted about 15 minutes in cowgirl, but seeing that beautiful ass from behind, I popped in maybe 5 minutes. She cleaned up and I offered her water. Chatted a little bit and I told her about my preference for African girls because of their curves. Told her I wanted to go to Kenya for that reason and she said no, Kenyan girls don't know how to have a good time like Ugandans and Ugandans are more beautiful. Obvious bias there, but seeing her body, pretty compelling case. Sent her on her way. No problems and was pleasant enough. Not really GFE, but a nice girl who offered a pretty professional experience without being cold or a starfish. Would fuck again. OF NOTE: WAS ACTUALLY PERFECTLY ON TIME FOR OUR APPOINTMENT.
2. Another Ugandan girl. Accepted the 1500 counter offer without further haggling. Bigger girl than #1 and definitely not as nice of a body. Not the perfect slim with a shapely booty that was #1. More of a chubby girl with a biggish ass. Didn't ask her she but was older she than #1. Probably 30's. Uncovered blow. Didn't initiate cowgirl, so just flipped her to missionary. Not as tight as #1. Went a bit in missionary and was kind of losing integrity of my member because of lack of tightness. Asked to hit it from behind. Nice view, but again not like the perfect view of #1. Couldn't blow from fucking, so asked her to finish with her mouth and hands. She said sure but to tell her when I was going to pop. Pretty decent effort and I popped on her breasts. Offered water and chatted about nothing in particular and she went on her way. Meh experience, not sure if I'the repeat.
3. Early 20's Thai girl off TF. Spinner with what looked like a nice ass. Offered 1500, she countered 2000. Whatever, seemed like gals in their 20's were at a premium so I accepted. Set up an appointment. She was 30 minutes late. Didn't acknowledge it so I didn't say anything. Up we went. Clothes off, see pretty significant baby damage. Disappointed. Cock in her mouth, less disappointed. Going at it pretty fast and with good suction. Put on the rubber and go in missionary. She gets into it and is moaning and getting very wet. Flip her to doggy and go at it like a maniac. She's moaning even harder and gripping the bed sheet. Pop in doggy. Give her the 2000, she showers, see ya later. Not a bad experience, but probably wouldn't repeat especially since 1500 seems like the fair going rate. Finding out that the standard petite and slim sans ass build of Thai girls isn't really my thing.
4. Mid to late 20's thicker Thai girl off of TF. Asked her TF price and got 1500. Sure. Over 30 minutes late. Asked her if she's close because if not we'll just have to reschedule because I have somewhere to be. She arrived and apologizes for being late. Up we go. Great blow. Usually like the fast, porn star blow, but she went slow and sensual with great suction and tongue action. Put on the rubber and she initiated cowgirl. Started at a reasonable pace with some sensual grinding. She gets wetter and I pull her to my chest and start jackhammering. She loves it and is moaning. Pop. She's very bubbly and giggly. Would say fairly GFE. A little unimportant chitchat and she's off on her way. Nice experience and nice girl. A bit bigger than her pics on TF. Maybe would repeat, but there are better lookers out there.
5. Another mid to late 20's Thai girl off of TF. 1500ST. Over 30 minutes late. Notice the pattern? Nicely tanned girl with some beautiful curves. Amazing cocksucker. So much so that I didn't even bang her. Just almost 30 minutes of her going to work with her mouth. Had agreed to pop in her mouth during our chat on TF, and so I did. She kept going to make sure I was empty and then spit out the goods in the toilet. Another sweet and bubbly girl. Actually took her out to dinner after. Repeated several times during the trip.
6. Late 20's early 30's girl off TF. 1500ST. Late, but not excessively. Average blow and out on the rubber. Says we have to be quick because she has to be at work in the morning. Beautiful white body with chubby curves. Didn't want to cowgirl because she said too tired? Hit in missionary and then flipped doggy where I went hard, maybe partly out of frustration over the lack of cowgirl. Popped and gave her the 1500. On her way. Was nice, but a bit rushed. Was late in the night so I am inclined to believe her excuse. She was also fairly tired. Still probably wouldn't repeat because of the lazy performance considering the other options available.
*7. Slim girl with a nice ass off of TF. Braided hair and a profile pic at the 808 club. I'm absolutely a sucker for the ghetto look. Find it incredibly sexy. Offered 1500. Accepted but chat was very slow and to the point. Initially ask her to come over in an hour. Says she's a bit far so asked if she could make it in a 1 and 1/2? Sure, whatever. Have to mention this was also past midnight and the street scene slows heavily after 01:00 ish. Over 1 1/2 hours later I text her on LINE asking if she's close? Gets back to me 30 minutes later and says sorry, can't make it and can we reschedule? Heated because it was too late for other options and it was my last day in Pattaya. Contemplate telling her to go fuck herself, but thought better of it. Not a pleasant way to end a good trip in Pattaya.
All in all, it was a good experience. Went in mid February and it is PACKED now. I haven't kept up with the forum, but if there are any doom and gloom forecasters still around, suffice to say they're wrong. A recession and hyper inflation be damned, Pattaya is flooded with tourists once again. Shithead Russians, shithead Chinese and shithead Indians in massive crowds. Thai girls were sweethearts and 1500 is the ST going rate, at least for ST. Apologies for no intel for the bar scene but like I said, I am not a fan at all. Outside of an experience in Sosua, this was my first extended experience mongering. Thailand is as newbie friendly as it gets imo. A lot of people speak English, it's incredibly safe, it's fairly cheap and the infrastructure is top notch.
That being said, I think I would like to try an African country for my next misadventure. Everyone has different tastes, but my god, the African ladies have beautiful bodies. Just have these curves that you absolutely will not find in Thai girls. And the standard for beauty is different. Small, skinny, white and with no curves is the ideal profile for the Thai demographic. Not a big fan. Will put sometime into researching a good African mongering country for a newbie, but I realize it won't compare to Thailand in terms of everything else outside of girls. See'est la vie.
*I'm fairly young still (in my mid to late 30's) but I am a slow and boring type. Pattaya was an absolute great change of pace coming from hectic BKK. Absolutely hated BKK, but that's for another post.[/QUOTE]Nice report. You sound a lot like me. Laid back non-bar guy that would rather be relaxing in my comfortable hotel with the girls coming to me than to be in the bars or clubs. That's what I love about Pattaya. You can get a nice, clean hotel for cheap and just have the TF girls on call and the girls you meet when you're out and about during the day.
I also don't care much for BKK, I usually do the first few four or five days there to settle in and do the touristy stuff and then head to Pattaya and other parts of the country.
I had another lady in my condo who worked in Bahrain, this one for 9 months. She said that she slept in a room with 10 ladies, but rarely for long, they were required to assemble for lineups at all hours. After 9 months, she left with 40,000 baht.
As a result, she is pretty much frigid, her clit doesn't work, and she gets some small feelings in her pussy. So, no Thai husband or Farang boyfriend. She does like to get naked when she is drunk, though.
As mentioned above, I like to have ladies come to my place, rather than hook up in bars.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2795439]10,000 baht fine for establishment or individuals caught drinking on the streets.[/QUOTE]They got my buddy like that during covid. He was sitting on the steps in front of Treetown drinking a beer. They took him to jail. 10,000 baht.
[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2794367]Anyone else seeing Russians streetwalking or freelancing in Pattaya?
I have been looking for such in Phuket, so far without any real visible signs of it.[/QUOTE]Why not go to Mother Russia? The exchange rate is good. Russia is loaded with women looking to make a few extra rubles. If your looking for gorgeous white women at bargain pricing Moscow or Piter should be on the top of your list.
Just my $. 02.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2795441]One of my friends in USA is a Thai lady who received her pre-18 education from an expensive private school in Bangkok, undergraduate degree in Canada, and graduate degree in USA. She would disagree with you and say math and science isn't really taught in Thailand schools. We had that discussion a few years ago and she was extremely negative about the whole Thai education system. I remember asking what they do teach and she basically said culture.
I have a few well educated Thai friends who are far more capable than typical P4P girls, but even these well Thai educated people seem to have a screw loose in one area or another.[/QUOTE]You must have read my report wrong. I have this conversation a lot with other ex-pats about my views they nearly always say " My friend " going a bit further remember I'm talking in general!
The fact that she went to a private school has the ability to leave Thailand pretty much excludes her. From my experience and I live amount Thais only and in two decades from my experience watching the kids growing up around me and my son who didn't go to 100% government school but all the kids he played and grew up with in the village did and to a great majority of them at different locations throughout Pattaya. Yes, lots of cultures but when I look at all their books, particularly my daughter in law 100% government school her younger brother now 12, many were doing advanced math like Calculus. It is surprising that so many need a calculator to give me change also another example sons Uncle once wife told me he was a top student in a government Chiang Mai school yet he couldn't do anything unless he had a calculator I once added up a bill with a second he looked at me like I was Einstein?
As noted what is disturbing and missing in government schools is " critical thinking " which is lacking throughout their society and culture the inability to come up with solutions as if they are robots is the reason you hear " This is Thailand " so much. The country is also funded by registered residents so Bangkok of course gets the most money plus the greatest choice of teachers where outside the funding nor the assignment of teachers are equal.
Those who understand the need for education rather than a babysitting service if possible find a way to send their kids to Bangkok where there are greater resources many of the government schools just go through the motion. In general, they don't teach a lot doing so keeps the massive under control.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2795581]Yes, lots of cultures but when I look at all their books, particularly my daughter in law 100% government school her younger brother now 12, many were doing advanced math like Calculus. [/QUOTE]Wow! I read your note and that promoted me to activate my USA SIM card and call my well educated Thai friend in USA. I asked specifically about calculus being taught in pre-18 government schools and she said no way that was happening when she was living there 20+ years ago. She admitted that she has lost touch with Thai schools over the last 15 years, but such a change would be great.
If Thailand government schools produce even 5% of 18 year old students who understand the derivation of polynomial derivatives and integrals, I would be impressed.
Thai girls I know are great at math. They know 3000 baht, 5000 baht, 1000 baht, 1500 baht, 2500 baht, and 40 baht, the price of their somtam.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2795622]Wow! I read your note and that promoted me to activate my USA SIM card and call my well educated Thai friend in USA. I asked specifically about calculus being taught in pre-18 government schools and she said no way that was happening when she was living there 20+ years ago. She admitted that she has lost touch with Thai schools over the last 15 years, but such a change would be great.
If Thailand government schools produce even 5% of 18-year-old students who understand the derivation of polynomial derivatives and integrals, I would be impressed.[/QUOTE]Although the system has changed it hasn't enough or will in my life going to produce even a 5% even if it did, the poor right now has no chance in hell with the government nepotism in a place where jobs are given to family and those who can pay to get them. The rich get richer the poor get poorer, and the male has it even worse if by 15 your grades are not 3. 0 plus and you need to change to another school for High School even a government school isn't going to take you unless you pay the headmaster to get in and not a lot of Thais are going to be coughing up 15,000 baht to get their kid in. Girls because they don't want them to work in P4 P make allowances even then 12 years of school they are at 7/11, KFC, Amazon Coffee, Big see, and Lotus I'm not looking down at Thais cause these are real jobs paying minimum wages hours and if you aren't pretty enough and get old your outdated by 30! Do you see any old ladies at any of these places any guys? They clean toilets and empty garbage majority of the jobs are self-employed in the Thai food markets.
My daughter-in-law basically has a Master's in Accounting but can't get a job at a bank cause you got to have connections and even then unless close Thai family it would cost her nearly 200,000 baht to buy into position. In spite of all the math and science she doesn't have a clue about world events outside of the ASEAN countries, she can't even point to South America on the globe and this is very typical. When the government dictates to the school what to teach you to get a grade to show up early to say the pledge that should pretty much spell it out!
It is a babysitting service by our standard memorization zero critical thinking reason for example they can't even pave a road properly or put in a drain system in Pattaya. But as long as they are fifty years behind when times are rough Thai raise prices this is just one of those things out of millions and there will always be pussy even if prices are up or down.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2795625]Thai girls I know are great at math. They know 3000 baht, 5000 baht, 1000 baht, 1500 baht, 2500 baht, and 40 baht, the price of their somtam.[/QUOTE]Inflation Somtam is now running at 60 baht.
[QUOTE=Guido88;2795579]Why not go to Mother Russia? The exchange rate is good. Russia is loaded with women looking to make a few extra rubles. If your looking for gorgeous white women at bargain pricing Moscow or Piter should be on the top of your list.
Just my $. 02.[/QUOTE]Any male within the borders of Russia, even foreigners, is liable for conscription, to be sent to engage in human wave attacks in Ukraine.
This diary continues from the Manila, Angeles and Cebu threads. Please note, I did not write anything about my week in Palawan as I was in tourist mode only. That will explain why the day sequencing jumps from 13 to 20. Enjoy and apologies in advance for the very long posts.
The journey from beautiful Coron in Philippines to Pattaya was torturous. The first flight went smoothly aside from the fact I was sat next to a woman who coughed all the way. The second flight was delayed. After an hour and a half we were able to get on to the plane, which sat on the tarmac for at least another hour.
As a result of the two and a half delay, it scuppered my chances of a proper night out when I arrived in Pattaya. I had planned to meet Sam at 8 pm for a bar crawl but it was 10.30 before the taxi dropped me off at my hotel.
I'm staying at Vogue Hotel again, on Soi Lengkee. I had a really good stay there three months ago and I don't see any reason to change. It's great value (I paid only about 700 baht a night via Agoda) and has a good location near the action. My room is on the sixth floor and is very nice with fresh, modern decor. My stay is just a fleeting one this time, just seven days before I return to England.
As I quickly changed clothes, I received a message on Line. It was the cute 19 year old from Oh Bar, sending me a photo of her blowing a kiss. She's the one that got away on my November trip, a flirty young girl with a killer body. I would have liked to barfine her but the opportunity never arose. Until tonight.
Heading out it was apparent how things continue to pick up after covid. Even Soi Lengkee had a few bars with a lively selection of girls outside. I turned right on to Soi Buakhao and noticed bars like Sick Buffalo and The Bay were a lot busier with girls. I didn't see the girl I barfined twice from Boobie Trap and I know for a fact that my favourite girl no longer works at Vixen. The roster of girls changes quickly in Pattaya.
I turned on to Tree Town and saw the lovely Jen outside her bar. When she spotted me she ran to me and gave me a bone-crunching hug. I was her first customer when she worked at Joy Bar a year ago and she's transformed from a shy, timid girl to a confident, sexy one. I'm keen to barfine her again.
My target was the beer bar complex alongside Tree Town. I walked down the centre of the street and was again encouraged by the number of girls. I spotted at least three bars that sat empty three months ago that are now open for business.
When I arrived at Oh Bar the cute girl wasn't there. I messaged her on Line and she said she had finished for the day. It was only 11 pm so I assumed she had been barfined but she offered to come back to the bar to see me. It turns out that this bar, along with many others, turned to live-streaming during lockdown and they've kept it going ever since, with three or four of their sexier girls performing in front of the camera all night while the rest work at the bar. It's a sad state of affairs that pretty girls like these are locked away from real-life customers to gratify virtual punters instead.
I ordered a beer and noticed that the bar has a new girl serving drinks, who is young and pretty. This bar consistently manages to attract young talent.
My girl arrived ten minutes later and looked as cute as I remembered. I bought her several drinks and there was tension in the air. I wanted to barfine her in November but it never happened, mainly because Sam has barfined her before and doesn't like the idea of me going with girls he's been with. A strange stance because I know for a fact that he tried to go with one of my favourite girls, Nat. Bro-code works both ways! But the deciding factor was when she told me they she hasn't been with him for 'a long time' and she wanted to go with me. Now finally nothing stood in our way.
The barfine at Oh Bar is 500 for short-time or 1000 for long-time. I really like this girl so opted for the latter, with another 2500 to be paid to the girl in the morning.
In the room she became very shy and it took a lot of gentle persuasion for her towel to fall off. Given how flirty she had been with me on Line, I expected a girlfriend experience but she was an unenthusiastic kisser, kissing with her mouth closed. She had amazing fuller natural tits but she didn't like having her nipples sucked. I started rubbing her pussy but she giggled and said that it was ticklish. This was turning in to hard work!
Rewind to my time in Philippines and all 15 girls were passionate kissers with few inhibitions. One of them bought handcuffs and called me Officer Lance all night!
'We boom boom now' she said, stroking my dick until it was rock hard.
She spread her legs and it was an amazing feeling, sliding in to a girl I've fantasized about fucking for months back in England.
Her pussy was tight and she tightened her face as I pushed all the way in, so I was slow and gentle with her, savouring every minute. We soon found our rhythm and before long I was giving her a good pounding, watching her fabulous tits wobbling erratically.
I slapped in to her from behind, doggy style then she finished by riding me in an inexperienced manner. She just sat up and wiggled her hips on mine, which might not have been enough to get my rocks off, but looked super-sexy. You can't beat the sight of being rode by a big-boobed 19 year old. I squeezed her big tits and thought it was good to be back in Pattaya.
The number of ladies in Pattaya is increasing, while the number of customers is slowly decreasing.
This is because there were a ton of customers in December, the ladies made a pile of money, and told their friends in Isaan. Now that the holiday season is over, many customers have returned home, but the ladies keep arriving.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2795581]As noted what is disturbing and missing in government schools is " critical thinking " which is lacking throughout their society and culture the inability to come up with solutions as if they are robots is the reason you hear " This is Thailand " so much..[/QUOTE]This doesn't really specifically relate to thailand, but of course it is there. For education, the western world generally focuses on asking questions and critical thinking, East asia / SE Asia generally focuses on memorization and repetition of tasks, rarely new ideas or methods or deconstruction. Basically, critical thinking is generally not a prioritized skill in the east, while in the west, its fundamental part of the curriculum from start to finish. Of course you will find exceptions here, but these are more or less general concepts of the difference in ideas of education.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2795753]The number of ladies in Pattaya is increasing, while the number of customers is slowly decreasing.
This is because there were a ton of customers in December, the ladies made a pile of money, and told their friends in Isaan. Now that the holiday season is over, many customers have returned home, but the ladies keep arriving.[/QUOTE]Did you find this to be any different in any year pre-COVID?
The girls keep coming and coming at least til Songkran. 'High season' means lots of guys/customers. It doesn't necessarily mean fewer girls in "low season'. The 2 months I noticed the fewest girls in Pattaya gogo bars are July and August but the girls quickly return around mid to end of September.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2795842]Did you find this to be any different in any year pre-COVID?
The girls keep coming and coming at least til Songkran. 'High season' means lots of guys/customers. It doesn't necessarily mean fewer girls in "low season'. The 2 months I noticed the fewest girls in Pattaya gogo bars are July and August but the girls quickly return around mid to end of September.[/QUOTE]It is a similar pattern as the years before Covid, except that the quantity of ladies before High Season after Covid was very low, at this time a year ago. The customers showed up before the ladies started arriving in mass numbers.
Now, there are large numbers of ladies sitting in bars, just as the customer base is evaporating.
[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2795730]I received a message on Line. It was the cute 19 year old from Oh Bar, sending me a photo of her blowing a kiss. She's the one that got away on my November trip, a flirty young girl with a killer body. I would have liked to barfine her but the opportunity never arose. Until tonight.
When I arrived at Oh Bar the cute girl wasn't there. I messaged her on Line and she said she had finished for the day. It was only 11 pm.
My girl arrived ten minutes later and looked as cute as I remembered. I bought her several drinks and there was tension in the air. Bro-code works both ways! But the deciding factor was when she told me they she hasn't been with him for 'a long time' and she wanted to go with me. Now finally nothing stood in our way.
The barfine at Oh Bar is 500 for short-time or 1000 for long-time. I really like this girl so opted for the latter, with another 2500 to be paid to the girl in the morning.[/QUOTE]Are you fucking with us right now? You really actually had a girl's contact info. While she was off work, you contacted her come to work so that you could give her boss money for her to go with you on her off time? People really do leave their brains at the airport when they come to this place.
[QUOTE=GrapeMan;2795768]This doesn't really specifically relate to thailand, but of course it is there. For education, the western world generally focuses on asking questions and critical thinking, East asia / SE Asia generally focuses on memorization and repetition of tasks, rarely new ideas or methods or deconstruction. Basically, critical thinking is generally not a prioritized skill in the east, while in the west, its fundamental part of the curriculum from start to finish. Of course you will find exceptions here, but these are more or less general concepts of the difference in ideas of education.[/QUOTE]It might not directly relate the topic but that is where you missed!
Majority of the topic as to why or why not a girl does what she does confusing punters scratching their head is all related in some way to the topic being discussed. Expert data in regards to Thailand government education system points to this one issue " critical thinking " there is data when South Korea, Japa.
And. China raise is from changing from the system Thailand still apply.
The reason girls charge the prices or don't, why they are late, why they can't meet at a specific location when explain to them in perfect English, it all seems unrelated but not everything discussed here is going to stare you in the face.
Remember there is only one Moderator when other start dictating or even suggest there is going to be problems. What I do notice is those who suggest have a hard time sticking to their own suggestion.
Patience everything in good time,.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2795859]It is a similar pattern as the years before Covid, except that the quantity of ladies before High Season after Covid was very low, at this time a year ago. The customers showed up before the ladies started arriving in mass numbers.
Now, there are large numbers of ladies sitting in bars, just as the customer base is evaporating.[/QUOTE]High season or low season I always see hordes of Bargirls with no customers.
I left some open days in my schedule, starting yesterday, with no ladies scheduled to come to my condo. It is still High Season, although the end is near. But it means that ladies aren't pinging me much to ask to come to my condo.
I am playing it by ear. If I want female company, I can go to a bar and barfine a lady. Except that the good ones are mostly taken, guys on 2 week holidays will barfine them for the rest of their holiday.
So. Right now, I don't know what I want, maybe I will come up with a plan later today.
On day 10, I will have a pool villa for a few days, and yes, I have already booked ladies for my stay there.
The joy of being a full time resident of Pattaya!
My 7 Eleven chick came over last night. Used to be 700 short time but I told her I was bumping her up to 1200 long time. I asked what time she had to work and she said 9:00 or 10:00. I said wait a damn minute. How you do not have a particular time to be there? She said I have been there 7 years. I am the boss now. Well exxxcuuussse me. And I guess she was telling the truth since it is damn near 1 pm and we are still in the bed. Lazy day.
P.S. My buddy asked if I had to pay a bar fine to 7 Eleven. I told him only on her time off.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2795581]As noted what is disturbing and missing in government schools is " critical thinking " which is lacking throughout their society and culture the inability to come up with solutions[/QUOTE]Well let me add blatant dishonesty to the discussion.
My buddy has a kid with a chick and they live together in a condo that he bought. He gives her money left and right. The other day she told him that she has to get 2 root canals 20,000 baht each. I told him to wait a damn minute. It was years ago, but the last time I got a root canal it was 10,000 baht. So I hit a chick up that I mess with who is a dental tech and asked her how much root canals cost where she works in Central Pattaya. 6,000,8,000, and 10,000 is what she said. Maybe his chick is going to the dentist of the stars.
Last night went to my niece's mom's birthday party. My brother had transfered $500 to my bank account to give to his kid. I took the money out of my USA account and put it in my Thai bank before going to the party. At the party I transferred the 17,000 baht by phones to her bank account. She refuses to believe my brother sent the money and thinks I gave her the money. I said look lady. Where the hell do you think I have 17,000 baht to just give away to you?
I told my brother and sent him a picture of us from the party. He said that girl is so dishonest. After I gave her the money she turns around to ask him for money to go to Bangkok to pick up my niece. She also tells him that she would stay home because she has to work. Who the hell would feel the need to lie about not going to their own birthday party? Thai people, that is who.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2795842]The girls keep coming and coming at least til Songkran. 'High season' means lots of guys/customers. It doesn't necessarily mean fewer girls in "low season'. The 2 months I noticed the fewest girls in Pattaya gogo bars are July and August but the girls quickly return around mid to end of September.[/QUOTE]To your point, last night I did an overnight on Samui with a P4P girl who just arrived a week ago. She asked me if there will still be many customers when the rains start. I told her I never come during rainy season and I had to explain why I only come when weather is expected to be good.
Another friend is planning on opening a shop in Pattaya with tourists being the primary customers. I encouraged her to keep her old job until shortly before tourist season. She insists that the tourists come all year long. She quit her old job just in time for low season.
Neither of these girls seem to grasp the simple concept of tourism being a seasonal business. Critical thinking.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2795979]Another friend is planning on opening a shop in Pattaya with tourists being the primary customers. I encouraged her to keep her old job until shortly before tourist season. She insists that the tourists come all year long. She quit her old job just in time for low season.[/QUOTE]Thai girl has desire to no longer be in P4P industry. Thai girl looks to open her own food/coffee/salon/retail shop. Thai girl sees that a good shop location that was too expensive in September was much cheaper in March. Thai girl decides to pay 200,000 baht to take over the existing shop lease of a successful business. Thai girl notices business falls flat within a month or two. Thai girl tries to sell lease with no takers until September. Smart person with business sense buys Thai Girl business lease for 25,000 baht to prepare for High season of customers in September. Thai girl goes back to work in a gogo bar in September. Thai girl is out a ton of money and 6 months of opportunity cost. Thai girl works from September to March. Thai girl repeats same mistake the following March.
Does anyone know if the ferry from Pattaya to Hua Hin that had been operational pre-COVID, is now running reliably again?
[QUOTE=ChaChumplin;2795901]High season or low season I always see hordes of Bargirls with no customers.[/QUOTE]It wasn't that long ago when there were posts every day about the bars being open, but not too many ladies were in them.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2795878]Are you fucking with us right now? You really actually had a girl's contact info. While she was off work, you contacted her come to work so that you could give her boss money for her to go with you on her off time? People really do leave their brains at the airport when they come to this place.[/QUOTE]My original post clearly explained that she was live-streaming for the bar from a different place (I think it's the owners condo). Tellingly, you block-quoted me and then took the time to carefully and very specifically delete the very information that adds the all important context. Hmm.
Anyway, good to hear from you again. As cheerful as always.
I never thought about asking a 7-11 employee out. But going to 7-11 over there is a great cultural experience. Sometimes credit cards are taken sometimes not. No reason ever given. Just hand signals saying NO or Stick in Card. Beautifully dressed gogo dancers buy the instant soups or chicken meals that take the 7-11 staff 4 minutes to prep and package. Then there is the Grab guys jumping in line to pickup online orders. Meanwhile I am patiently holding my sodas and chips in line and the 3 Punjabi Indians Bark at the staff to Boil Water for the 1 Tap Ramen Noodle Cup of Noodles they all 3 bought. And the staff can't understand that they simply want the Noodle Cup filled with boiling water. Total Chaos and great insight. Now, I will call myself a hypocrite due to the fact that the Beer / Alcohol sales are probably code locked and can't scan at the wrong hours. Sometimes the doors to the beer are closed and sometimes they are opened. Never know when you can buy and not be hassled. But sometimes I see a beer and I open the door and get it. Only to have to surrender the beer at the counter with the other go back items because apparently its too late or too early. Then there is the European tourist who needs to read the label or inspect the label with the refrigerator door open with his knees and decide after 4 minutes to grab another item in the refrigerator thereby blocking my fat ass from grabbing my Coke Soda ... Love the 7-11's in Pattaya.
I was hoping to have 'round 2' in the morning before the Oh Bar girl left at 9 am but she didn't want to as apparently she had a bad back. I was disappointed. She had been so flirty with me on Line I thought she was a guaranteed wild time but it didn't work out that way. She kissed with her mouth closed and didn't show much affection, so long-timing her was pointless. As she offered a restricted menu I didn't tip her.
I met Sam for breakfast and it was good to catch up. He's moved to a new condo (12,000 baht a month) as his previous landlord tried to double his rent. Afterwards I withdrew a hefty amount of cash from an ATM and stocked up on snacks for my room from a 7 Eleven.
At 3 pm I decided to go to Soi 6 for some afternoon action. I'm only in Pattaya for seven days so I don't want to waste any afternoons.
In the space of four months a lot has changed along 2nd Road. Drinking Street has now been completely demolished, recently I assume as JCBs were busily moving rubble around. A sleek looking new nightclub named Club K has opened near Soi 6 but by far the most exciting development is Sabai Dee massage parlour has parted with the garish multi-coloured exterior and is now garish pink.
I didn't want to spend too long on Soi 6, I just wanted a quickie with a willing participant. Although the street is liveliest after 5 pm with a far higher percentage of pretty girls, there are still lots of girls mid-afternoon and the occasional gem. I fucked 10 girls here on my November trip and the standard of girls was excellent.
I slowly walked down the road, eyes darting from one girl to the next. There's a girl for most tastes here, from innocent-looking 18-20 year olds to hardcore pros covered in tattoos. A salon had opened on the street so the current fashion amongst the girls is coloured hair extensions. The girls at each bar wear matching outfits including sailor outfits, nurses uniforms, French maids and of course lots of fishnets.
A girl flashed me a big metallic smile at Lust, so I went inside and bought her a drink. She was pretty in a distinctive way with big lips and beautiful slanted eyes. If Netflix ever create a drama set in the red light district of 1950's Bangkok, this girl ticks all of the Asian hooker stereotypes. She was 25 and was extremely sexy in red lacy underwear. She had a slim body with what looked large natural breasts.
I paid 400 for the room and followed her peachy bum up the steep steps at the back. She'd quoted 1500 but she immediately accepted my 1000 counter-offer plus 'tip if you make me smile'. The room was small and basic, with just a fan lazily whirring above to keep me cool. There were cartoon characters on the bedsheets and a mirror alongside the bed.
We showered separately in a small bathroom and I marvelled at her naked body. She was tall and slim and didn't have any tattoos. She had perfect, fuller tits and a neatly trimmed Bush.
She gave me a nice blowjob, which looked great in the mirror and before long I couldn't wait to slide in to her pussy. I slid a condom on and fucked her in mish to start. I enjoyed sucking her nipples as I slowly grinded in to her, then leaned up and gave her a good hard pumping. I caught her looking at us in the mirror and joked it was like we were in our own porn movie.
The room was like a sauna so I asked her to go on top. She rode me as I squeezed her lovely tits and then I discarded the condom and finished with a nice 69. She groaned whenever I stuck my tongue up her juicy pussy and wanked me furiously when when heard me coming.
It was enjoyable, hot, sticky session with a sexy girl.
I took the baht bus back towards my hotel and had bolognese at the small stall where Soi Diana meets Soi Buakhao. As I was eating I had to laugh. On my trip in November my standout girl worked at Area 52 but I could never get near her because she was always with a customer, including five days straight with a middle-aged German guy with glasses. I'm planning to barfine her this week but who should walk past as I was eating my spaghetti but the German guy who had monopolised her!
Sam and I decided on an early start to our bar-crawl tonight, meeting at 6 pm at Subway. I saw a familiar face at Boobie Trap, the sweet girl I barfined twice in November. I bought her a drink and we held hands as we chatted.
Soi Buakhao is definitely busier since November. A new bar, Pink Devil, has opened opposite Boobie Trap, Annie Jacks seems to have an influx of new talent and The Bay next door was full of girls too. Sadly Vixen though, my favourite bar in November, has lost its prettiest girls because the manager didn't pay them one month. We turned left on to Tree Town and went to Blue Sky Bar, a good people-watching spot.
We went to the bar the lovely Jen works at next. She was taking a shower when I arrived. Her parents own the bar so I presume she lives upstairs. Finally she appeared, wearing no makeup on and looking naturally beautiful. 'I go put makeup on' she said before disappearing for another 15 minutes. I like this girl and would love to barfine her again but I wonder whether she even accepts barfines under her parent's noses.
As we walked towards Area 52 we passed Sam's favourite girl, wearing casual clothes and walking hand-in-hand with a man. Sam was pleased as she's a thirsty girl and he normally ends up buying several ladydrinks for her. Instead he bought a drink for a pretty new young girl he's working on.
In the space of one minute I received two Line messages.
Ironically the first was from Miss Popular, the beautiful Area 52 girl I was hoping to meet in this very bar. 'I see you last night' she said. I messaged her back asking where she was and she sent me a two second video of a food court that could be anywhere in SE Asia. I love Asian girls but sometimes it can be frustrating getting a straight answer from them.
The second message came from my girl of the trip in November, a beautiful skinny girl I barfined twice. 'I come to work now' she said before pinning the location of her new bar on a map. It's located on a side street off Soi Buakhao, the one with the rock / metal pub on the corner. There is a cluster of bars and I saw her standing at the front of one. She looked as beautiful as I remembered, her hair freshly curled. In November she was 42 kilos and I was pleased to see she's put a bit of weight on. It was great to catch up over a drink and we agreed that I'd barfine her in a few days time.
Sam and I walked back on to Tree Town and we saw Sam's favourite girl again, the one we'd seen leaving with a customer just an hour ago. She was back at her bar so it had obviously been a short-time of Soi 6 proportions. Amusingly she denied she'd gone with a customer, apparently she was just showing him where the motorbike taxis can be found! She asked Sam for a drink but when he said we were going to another bar, she told him to fuck off. I'm detecting cracks in their relationship.
Next we went to Escape, Tree Town's only gogo bar. It's far livelier inside than November with many more girls, unfortunately most are 30+, not particularly attractive and there is more silicon on show than Silicon Valley. The air-con is turned low so there are lots of erect nipples on show. But of course the beauty of these kind of places is that no matter how unpromising they might be, it only takes one girl. I saw a lovely girl get up on stage to dance, so invited her down for a drink. She was just 21 and very pretty with braces on her teeth. She was a giggly thing too and I enjoyed chatting with her. She told me the barfine is an eye-watering 2000 before midnight and 1000 afterwards. Her prices were 3500 short-time and 5000 long-time. Steep but negotiable I'd suggest.
Sam was keen to show me Angel and Monster next, the circular open-sided gogo style bar. 'The girls are fucking ugly here' he said as we took the first swig of our drinks which did make me wonder why he'd brought me here. Despite his comment, there were a few nice ones, including the big-boobed dancer I tried to barfine in November and another girl with the perkiest tits I've seen in Pattaya so far.
We had a quick drink in Moonlight and then another in Oh Bar, where Sam unknowingly played pool against the cute girl I'd fucked last night. It was a strange situation as she kept sneaking cute smiles in my direction.
It was 12.30 and time to find a girl. Problem is, a lot of the prettier ones are safely tucked up in bed at this time of night. A case in point is Annie Jacks and The Bay next door, which were stocked with a good selection of girls earlier in the night but now only had a handful of older girls. Tree Town had slim pickings, unusually so did Soi Pothole.
I walked on to Soi LK Metro and was enticed in to Pulse by a sexy nurse with big tits. There were 15 girls dancing and the standard was fairly mediocre, but the sexy nurse who had come inside with me was great. She was 21, had a stellar body and was very easy to talk to. I would certainly have barfined her but her commercialism cost her. She necked her tequila and kept repeatedly asking for another, so I paid my bill. 'If you not keep asking for drink, I pay your barfine' I told her and she seemed to understand.
It was getting late and suddenly I couldn't be bothered with bars and having the same conversations over and over again. I walked up Soi Honey, which isn't packed with many stunners come the witching hour but I struck lucky at a small massage-with-extras place near 2nd Road. There was a nice looking 21 year old, sat behind a chunky woman probably twice her age. Ten minutes later we'd showered in a room upstairs and she was giving me an inexperienced massage.
'Okay we boom boom now' she said after 15 minutes.
The sex was enjoyable. She was talkative as I fucked her in mish and giggled when I sucked her earlobe. She was shocked when I asked her to go on top and was very inexperienced, sitting there on my cock, barely wiggling her hips at all. But I enjoyed the view as she had a majestic pair of natural tits (she's my third girl in Pattaya and all have been blessed with big tits). It was left to me to do all the work from beneath, grabbing her arse-cheeks and thrusting up in to her, making her groan squeaky groans.
Once again I was nearly melting because the room was so hot, so I took the condom off and she finished me with a really good, firm handjob. A happy ending to a very enjoyable night.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2796047]Pattaya to Hua Hin Ferry. Does anyone know if the ferry from Pattaya to Hua Hin that had been operational pre-COVID, is now running reliably again?[/QUOTE]AFAIK it hasn't returned. I don't see Viator or Klook actively selling tickets so that's a sign.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;2796060]Next we went to Escape, Tree Town's only gogo bar. It's far livelier inside than November with many more girls, unfortunately most are 30+, not particularly attractive [/QUOTE]
Wasn't aware Treetown had a gogo bar so of course I had to look it up. I won't say anything. I'll post 3 photos the club posted in the past 3 days and let you guys decide if it's worth going to.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2796069]AFAIK it hasn't returned. I don't see Viator or Klook actively selling tickets so that's a sign.
Wasn't aware Treetown had a gogo bar so of course I had to look it up. I won't say anything. I'll post 3 photos the club posted in the past 3 days and let you guys decide if it's worth going to.[/QUOTE]From reading the posts on here I am beginning to think some of you guys don't understand how karma works. Fucking a 10 gets you zero karma, fucking a 5 gets you lots of karma. Fucking anything less than a five is just sad, even the law of Karma has its limits. So, to build up Karma you need to lower your standards every now and then and take one for the team. Thai girls really love a man with a big heart, so if that 10 sees you take a 5 out of the bar they will fall in love with you. Lucky for me I have earned enough karma in my life that I don't have to fuck 5's anymore. I will happily take care of the 10's while you guys are building up karma.
[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2796060]I was hoping to have 'round 2' in the morning before the Oh Bar girl left at 9 am but she didn't want to as apparently she had a bad back. I was disappointed. She had been so flirty with me on Line I thought she was a guaranteed wild time but it didn't work out that way. She kissed with her mouth closed and didn't show much affection, so long-timing her was pointless. As she offered a restricted menu I didn't tip her.[/QUOTE]Sir L. Glad to see you back and posting. Your trip reports are very enjoyable. Have a great time.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2796047]Does anyone know if the ferry from Pattaya to Hua Hin that had been operational pre-COVID, is now running reliably again?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.pattayaunlimited.com/pattaya-to-hua-hin-ferry-tickets/[/URL]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2795946]Well let me add blatant dishonesty to the discussion.
My buddy has a kid with a chick and they live together in a condo that he bought. He gives her money left and right. The other day she told him that she has to get 2 root canals 20,000 baht each. I told him to wait a damn minute. It was years ago, but the last time I got a root canal it was 10,000 baht. So I hit a chick up that I mess with who is a dental tech and asked her how much root canals cost where she works in Central Pattaya. 6,000,8,000, and 10,000 is what she said. Maybe his chick is going to the dentist of the stars.
Last night went to my niece's mom's birthday party. My brother had transfered $500 to my bank account to give to his kid. I took the money out of my USA account and put it in my Thai bank before going to the party. At the party I transferred the 17,000 baht by phones to her bank account. She refuses to believe my brother sent the money and thinks I gave her the money. I said look lady. Where the hell do you think I have 17,000 baht to just give away to you?
I told my brother and sent him a picture of us from the party. He said that girl is so dishonest. After I gave her the money she turns around to ask him for money to go to Bangkok to pick up my niece. She also tells him that she would stay home because she has to work. Who the hell would feel the need to lie about not going to their own birthday party? Thai people, that is who.[/QUOTE]
You are right but to our standards, as I've said a number of times. It is kind of like the Seinfeld series where Jerry figures out how George passes the lie detector test. He believes deeply that what he is saying isn't a lie. There was a survey done with Thais a few years back about lies and lying many Thais from the survey believe a bit of lying is good for you and the population. With that type of thinking you can see why Thais leaders get up daily and just lie. Obvious to us why? We come from the West our education is " Critical thinking " during Covid especially you see lies after lies just blatant.
Your example is very good! They come up with these type of things their whole life no one has ever called them on it because confrontation and criticism is not a way of life them being silent breeds this type of behavior in people not only in Thais. My brother and cousin have introverted personalities and friends who I also know since we were in grade school nice guy good heart so they put up with him. But the stuff that comes out of his mouth he really believes in it even without any data throws it it is so off the wall being me I question it he doesn't like it no one has ever done that to him so he holds grudges towards me although he says he doesn't he acted on it recently but lie outright it was the case. Like Thais saying nothing I tell my brother and cousin the reason he acts this way and abuses people close to him is that no one says anything to him thus the result they create this type of situation in people as with Thailand this is what we end up with?
In the P4 P scene, it gets worse because those exposed to the scene here hear that foreigners are stupid the term in Thai is " Buffaloe " and some are so strongly about it that they are blatant. I got millions of stories about why they ask more than they need and why they ask for you to pay for every little thing, when guys BF girls want this want that " gold, phone " they feel you got it therefore you should shell it out " then it is showing off to their friends no different than if you buy drinks the girls ask if you would buy drinks for their friends everything is somewhat related. I've been told by a few girls I've been with who know the ropes and how to play it when they feel they got a buffalo. Be reserved and submissive, show them you aren't the way they think speak English tell them it is your first day. Does it work why not continue?
I got a good friend I grew up with street-wise tough used to run one of the biggest Asian gangs at home. There were a number of years I didn't see him spent 7 years at Folsom how he survived shocks me knowing him today. Us being adults now he comes to Thailand regularly maybe it is because he has lots of money it doesn't matter but for a guy who I remember being street smart is dumber than dumb I call him " Charlie Tuna " because no matter how many times he gets burned by the same lines and lies you throw him back into the water when another hook comes he bites again. This guy I would say have lost close to 100 million baht falling for the same line or lies. Once a girl he had from Bangkok who I knew had a husband in Bangkok told him but he said " you don't know her " in the end he ask her to marry the next day she took off for a few days never said a word comes back and a diamond ring says 50,000 baht please I left to buy a ring in Bangkok because they don't have shops in Pattaya there was a good known shop just around the corner from his hotel. The same girl a year later all the time sending money said he is moving to Thailand and going to live in Siracha. The girl said we need a car so can pick you up at the airport in style 600,000 baht I made a bet with my brother and cousins when he comes out of immigration he will be alone. You don't need the results, do you?
On that trip, he hooks up with another chick who after a week starts to give her 50,000 baht a month to stop work and goes back to the farm for another 10 years this girl is soaking his ass up with stuff like I need 80,000 baht for an A / see, meantime she is posting stuff being fucked by a car salesman bragging to all her friends she got one of the stupidest buffaloe on the face of this earth. Every lie out of her mouth wasn't ever really a lie to her. It got so bad that when one of my cousins got couldn't take it any longer a bunch of us got into a van and drove up to her village go the evidence firsthand for him it wasn't until then he got the message. When he stopped sending and supporting her she went on FB and posted she couldn't understand the problem and why she doesn't get a second chance.
They can because it works and no one has ever explained or challenged them so they travel down the same road. There are guys out there who think because they are poor so help yet back home never made a donation to anyone. Some get burned by BG's they think helping non-P4 P is going to be different it isn't they all come from the same school of thought. Don't get me wrong there are lots of cases out there good ones but just not enough to change how many of us think! Many don't have a clue how the banking system works in the West to this day after 20 years my own wife doesn't understand just click here and there and it is here. But if I say jokingly you think I'm an ATM that gets me the couch for the night!
When it comes to a dentist " root canal " amount is a tough call if they actually need it done. My cousin a Dentist joked he had a license to steal. When you go in pain you are at their mercy how many times have anyone of you gotten up and said let me get a second opinion and shop around.
The last major service when I need I go to German Dental years ago I had a crown done it was guaranteed for five years. Years later I had pain from the same tooth a crown made by the same place but the roots weren't killed now to do them all four roots were close to 20,000 baht and that was going through the same crown creating a hole and then sealing it.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2795692]
It is a babysitting service by our standard memorization zero critical thinking reason for example they can't even pave a road properly or put in a drain system in Pattaya. But as long as they are fifty years behind when times are rough Thai raise prices this is just one of those things out of millions and there will always be pussy even if prices are up or down.[/QUOTE]Off topic, but comment anyway. There's a lot of expat moaning about Thai education system everywhere esp by those who have kids in govt schools or otherwise follow it at close distance. Just like there is moaning about military coups, Thai 'democracy' and corrupt practices thruout the society. I don't have kids in Thai schools luckily, but have close enough visibility to the system via girls that have kids in the indoctrination system as I would call it, rather than education system
I fully understand that the system is designed to be exactly as it should be in this kind of society. Just imagine what would happen in coming decades if the masses would have proper, non-indoctrinated, education that would enable them to use their full potential without being brainwashed to be as they are. Would not be the same Thailand, rather something like Sweden or other north European country. And mongering would certainly not be the same either. Thus, they will not change it, just talk about it around elections of course, just to fool the people.
Luckily, for the most part at least, this 'education' can not eradicate the deeper human instincts like sex drive nor natural gravitation towards money in Thai genes. Education system is even more important to keep on check than progressive parties as if not, could open can of worms that would be difficult to put back to can without massive bloodshed. Then whether the society should be as it is, is another discussion altogether. Thus, as you said, not much worries of (relatively) cheap pussy supply to continue unless birth rates really start seriously dropping in rural areas. Which is somewhat unlikely due to the education system that is supposed to keep that going.
[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2796051]My original post clearly explained that she was live-streaming for the bar from a different place (I think it's the owners condo). Tellingly, you block-quoted me and then took the time to carefully and very specifically delete the very information that adds the all important context. Hmm. [/QUOTE]Don't know why you accused me of altering the context of your post. You clearly said the girl said she had finished work. You then go on to say that the bar also livestreams. You say nothing about this particular girl actually being involved in livestreaming during the time she told you she had finished work. Hmm.
[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2795730]When I arrived at Oh Bar the cute girl wasn't there. [b]I messaged her on Line and she said she had finished for the day[/b]. It was only 11 pm so I assumed she had been barfined but she offered to come back to the bar to see me. [b]It turns out that this bar, along with many others, turned to live-streaming during lockdown[/b] and they've kept it going ever since, with three or four of their sexier girls performing in front of the camera all night while the rest work at the bar.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GentileBear;2796056]I never thought about asking a 7-11 employee out. But going to 7-11 over there is a great cultural experience. Meanwhile I am patiently holding my sodas and chips in line and the 3 Punjabi Indians Bark at the staff to Boil Water for the 1 Tap Ramen Noodle Cup of Noodles they all 3 bought.[/QUOTE]Damn you can not make this shit up. I walk into Texas Chicken yesterday and there are 5 of those brothers at the counter combing over the menu debating what to buy. I am behind them but talk over them to the lady behind the counter saying in Thai, Excuse me. Give me the Combo 2 please. I pay and she gives me my cup. I go fill it with drink and put it on a table and go back to the counter to wait for my food.
They finally finish ordering then they go to the table where I clearly marked my spot with the cup full of beverage and attempt to sit down. I go over to them point to my drink and shake my head. When their food comes they are like a pack of hyenas surrounding the table and devouring it. When they come away there are 2 chicken bones and 1 cup of noodles (or rice) with 3 spoons in it just like you called it! Why do all of that debating just to buy 2 pieces of chicken and 1 cup of noodles for 5 guys is what kills me.
Finally could visit this amazing city after a break of 7 years. Last one was an official trip with pretty much no action apart from a visit to Soi Honey 2. This time I had 2 days here before I headed to Phuket.
I had decided to explore walking street and beach road and thought to pick up someone from the club. Whoever seems nice, compatible and affordable. Didn't find much success on Tinder here.
At first I hopped in a few clubs which generally caters to Indians. This included Jannat, Kamaa, etc but I didn't enjoy the atmosphere in those clubs. Plus most of the girls were already busy with the existing crowd. Also, they were too crowded for my liking.
Post that I head to Bacarra basis the reports here because I wanted to experience a nice Gogo. I tried to book a seat on the first floor but I was denied stating its full. May be people from my country don't have a great history in Gogo's. For some unknown reasons they wanted me to pay in advance for a drink before I entered and I paid it because I wanted a drink anyway. Again could be because of cheap antics by fellow countrymen in the past. I liked the quality of girls at Bacarra and there were some really amazing petite spinners which were in line with my liking. I didn't intend to barfine any girl from there but I wanted to buy a few lady drinks and just chill with those ladies for sometime. I honestly forgot the name of the girl whom I liked the most and did buy her some drinks. She was so cute, petite may be like 40-45 kgs, smooth af. Fondled her for a bit and headed off to Mixx after that. Really liked the atmosphere and music at Mixx. I really liked a girl there who was probably 20-22 yrs old and super cute and super petite. But she told me she is expecting someone or she didn't want to go with me. Could be either and had a couple of drinks there. Post that I headed to Lucifer and found a cute girl sitting alone. We were pretty comfortable from the get go and I bought her a couple of drinks and we chilled at Lucifer before heading off to my hotel and she was kind enough to book a cheap ride back to hotel. I think I overpaid a little but we negotiated 3 k for 4 hrs till morning.
Her service was amazing to say the least. Didn't say no to anything. Cuddled like a girlfriend, gave me amazing BBBJ, CIM, and a complete GFE. Wasn't a petite spinner but wasn't fat either. Just the right built and extremely smooth skin.
Overall had a good time in Pattaya. Stayed in Oakwood Journeyhub which was a good guest friendly hotel. Will be adding more reports in Phuket forum.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2796209]Off topic, but comment anyway. There's a lot of expat moaning about Thai education system everywhere esp by those who have kids in govt schools or otherwise follow it at close distance. Just like there is moaning about military coups, Thai 'democracy' and corrupt practices thruout the society. I don't have kids in Thai schools luckily, but have close enough visibility to the system via girls that have kids in the indoctrination system as I would call it, rather than education system
I fully understand that the system is designed to be exactly as it should be in this kind of society. Just imagine what would happen in coming decades if the masses would have proper, non-indoctrinated, education that would enable them to use their full potential without being brainwashed to be as they are. Would not be the same Thailand, rather something like Sweden or other north European country. And mongering would certainly not be the same either. Thus, they will not change it, just talk about it around elections of course, just to fool the people.
Luckily, for the most part at least, this 'education' can not eradicate the deeper human instincts like sex drive nor natural gravitation towards money in Thai genes. Education system is even more important to keep on check than progressive parties as if not, could open can of worms that would be difficult to put back to can without massive bloodshed. Then whether the society should be as it is, is another discussion altogether. Thus, as you said, not much worries of (relatively) cheap pussy supply to continue unless birth rates really start seriously dropping in rural areas. Which is somewhat unlikely due to the education system that is supposed to keep that going.[/QUOTE]First, it is never off-topic if it truly was you wouldn't be responding to it. You say it much better than I can, as noted I have something at stake for my son which I've done as well as I could under the circumstances now my granddaughter which learning from my son's education although he didn't go to a 100% Thai government school more in between that than an International. Now that I've experienced and know firsthand the differences my granddaughter attends a school that is sponsored by the Chinese Mainland Government which is from my research of this school should be better than anything Pattaya has to offer right now.
At my age, I doubt I would ever see the results any good guarantee would be if a Thai driver ran her mother down during the night when she gets off work. What good we teach her seems to be undone by the mother whenever she visits her family. In most Thai couples I know the inlaws are far far away my luck they are close by.
So not to continue this off-topic based on their system the pussy will continue for those on this board and beyond because as long as it continues so will the production line in spite of all the new technology.
Pro Tip:
If you have a lady overnight, try to have her turn off her phone. Especially important: don't let her take the phone into the toilet.
Toilet calls are for the boyfriend, and nothing good will come from a boyfriend call.
In fact, nothing good will come from any late night telephone call for a lady in your room.
If her telephone is off, she won't get the call from her "roommate" who needs the key to her room. Which is more likely to be a call inviting her to go to a boy karaoke bar.
After breakfast and a lazy afternoon I decided to go Soi 6. Yesterday I went at 3 pm so I decided to try going slightly later today at 4. 30 pm.
To get there I walked from my hotel up Soi Lengkee, turned right on to Soi Buakhao and left on to Soi Honey, nicknamed 'soi Horny' due to the many massage-with-extras places dotted along it. I saw Nico sat outside Paradise, a sexy girl I've been with twice. There were definitely more girls out at this time than my desperate trawl along the street at 1. 30 last night.
I remember someone on this forum recommending I try visiting Runway along this street in November but not being very impressed. Today was a different story with six excitable girls sat on the steps outside, undoubtedly the youngest collection on the street.
After taking a songthaew up 2nd Road I jumped off at the top of Soi 6. I was pleasantly surprised at how much busier it was at 4. 45 compared to 3 pm yesterday. All of the bars on the right near the top of the street had 6-10 girls outside, yesterday there were barely any. The bars get busiest from about half way to three quarters the way down the street. I slowly completed my first recce and although the street was crowded with girls, I was a underwhelmed. I did spot Nui the nymphomaniac at her bar, who provided some of the best sex of my November trip, and we agreed to meet later in the week.
Unfortunately I was in an indecisive mood today. I completed another recce of the street and by the time I was on my third it was getting a little embarrassing, passing the same girls over and over. I needed to pick a bar to stop at and I chose Flirt as there was a pretty curly-haired girl sat at the front who smiled to me.
Amusingly my friend Owen, who I met in Pattaya in November, video-called me on Line while I was at the bar. He was wearing a big coat and it looked a grey miserable day in England. I'm sure he felt much better when I spun around and showed him I was on Soi 6, surrounded by girls. 'Sorry mate, no time to chat'. As if by magic the next girl I chatted with was called Bob, a little sexier than Owen's mate who joined us on our recent trip.
Earlier on one of my recces along the street I spotted a very cute, unique looking girl at a bar. She had her blond hair tied up in bunches, with Hello Kitty bows. Although she was 21 she looked younger, not least because she was 4 foot 9. We clicked and I couldn't resist taking her upstairs. The room cost 400 and she asked for 1500.
She was very shy in the room and wrapped herself with a towel when we got on to the bed. I gently took it off and she had a fabulous figure, with perfect small tits and nipples begging to be sucked. 'These too small' she said apologetically but I disagreed.
She told me it was best she not to do a blowjob as she'd just eaten chilli, something I'd never heard before but is probably sensible. The sex was great, not least because she was a great kisser. I find just kissing a pretty girl as she strokes my cock gets me hard and ready for action. She asked me to go slow, so I fucked her gently until she was grabbing my bum and pulling me in to her. She did little squeaky groans in perfect timing with the motion, until I thrust all the way in to her pussy and she groaned loudly.
Her pussy was so tight I had to pace myself. Slow and fast, slow and fast. I lay beside her and spooned her, then pulled her on top of me so she was riding me reverse cowgirl. Always a nice view of their bum bouncing up and down. She spun around and looked impossibly cute as she rode me energetically to a climax, her cheeks flushed pink.
Normally I walk back to my hotel from Soi 6 or take a songthaew along Beach Road. Problem with both of those options though is I always get back to my room needing another shower. So today I jumped on to the back of a motorbike taxi and enjoyed the cool wind in my face as we darted back to Vogue Hotel.
I had a traditional Thai meal of cheese and ham toastie from a 7Eleven before heading out to meet Sam for another evening's bar-crawl.
We started at Annie Jacks which seems to have recruited a few more young and pretty girls from my visit in November. Two were sat at the front but were quickly summoned to the table of a middle-Eastern looking guy, while another sexy girl was with an elderly European guy with wandering hands. When his left hand cupped her arse-cheek, she took his hand and moved it up to her waist instead.
Our plan had been to visit The Bay next door but there were only six girls and the quality was average. Yesterday's crop of pretty girls were conspicuous by their absence.
For old time's sake we went to Vixen next, our favourite bar in November. They had a pretty new girl stood at the front who told us her name was Popeye. She was nice to talk to, just don't give her any spinach.
I bought a drink for a very cute young girl at Area 52. She told me it was her first day, which sometimes you can take with a pinch of salt but Sam hadn't seen her before and he's a regular at the bar. It was also backed up by the fact she hardly spoke any English. She understood 'what is your name? ' but drew a blank when I asked how old she was. Via an App on her phone she told me she was 20. Despite the language barrier, she was good fun and very giggly, a strong barfine option.
I also bought a drink for a cute girl at Ass 95. I've seen her many times before but she always looks so serious. I wanted to see if I could make her smile, which I managed to do with a great deal of effort.
Suddenly I felt ill, so I rushed to the nearby toilet block and sat in a cubicle for twenty minutes feeling sorry for myself. It can't have been anything I've eaten, so presumably was caused by ice. Nevertheless, I had stomach cramps so decided to go back to my hotel for an hour until I felt fighting fit again.
I walked back to my hotel along Soi Buakhao. Normally I turn left on to Soi Lengkee but I decided to see what Soi Pothole was like at this time of night. Lively was the answer. I was physically wrestled in to one of the bars by an older woman and a girl with a sexy figure and a dazzling smile. I bought the latter a drink and suddenly my upset stomach was forgotten. The girl I liked was 22, the youngest in the bar by a considerable margin. She was great fun too, laughing almost constantly, flicking her long ponytail at me and dancing at the front of the bar. She was a really sexy mover. I couldn't resist.
The barfine was 500 and since her English was lacking she called the mamasan over to interpret. I'm not a fan of this as it usually makes it harder to negotiate a discount. The mamasan quoted 2000 short-time but accepted 1500 with the prospect of a tip.
We walked hand-in-hand the short distance back to my hotel but there was a problem when we reached the security counter as she didn't have her ID card. She showed him a photo of it on her phone but he insisted he needed the original. I've had girls slip through my fingers like this before but fortunately she knew she'd left it at work and got one of the waitresses at the bar to bring her the card straight away.
The sex was really passionate. We fucked in a variety of positions, kissing almost constantly. I then gave her a good pounding doggy-style, slapping in to her arse cheeks, before she rode me expertly. The room was hot so I took my condom off, intending for her to suck or wank me off, but she jumped back on immediately before I had time to object. Her technique was interesting. She lay flat on me, hooked her legs inside mine and then skilfully rocked her hips as she deep French-kissed me. After a few minutes I shot my load in to her pussy.
I love it when you fuck a girl and she just lies on top of you afterwards, you still inside her clenching pussy.
After I showered I returned to the bedroom to see her fast asleep beneath the duvet. I think sometimes these girls love a comfy bed in a nice hotel room and she had a lot of alcohol to sleep off too. I'd only asked for short-time but it looked like she'd decided to stay all night. I crawled under the duvet and fell asleep next to her.
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When meeting girls off Thaifriendly expect them to arrive at your hotel / apt at minimum 15 minutes late with an average of 30-40 minutes later than agreed. This is an important consideration if you are relying on a jump-start from sildenafil. Which I usually take 10-15 minutes before the "agreed" upon arrival. Thai girls do not consider themselves late if it is still within the hour they agreed to. After 1 hour and 15 minutes I will message them and tell them not to come anymore- to which they will protest and say they are on their way (probable lie). Part of the reason for this is they will initially agree to see you at a time that is not actually realistic for them because they just want to agree and know that in Thai cultures there are no repercussions for being late but there is a loss of face for being disagreeable.
It's sometimes a bit jarring when they show up on time or -gasp- a bit early.
This part of the culture cannot be changed and it's better to adapt to it than try to explain to them that "Westerners value punctuality"- to which they will nod their heads sympathetically and then keep on being late.
Filipinas are slightly worse than Thai in this regard.
If a girl on Thaifriendly says she is looking for a man to marry and is not there for sex, she is 100% a scammer. Often they will present themselves as very poor and naive, or alternatively strangely well off and speaking very good english. The latter type will quickly pivot to get you involved in a crytpo-scheme, or try to get you to take compromising photos to blackmail you with. Please know, even though you must ask all the girls if they are freelancers and looking for customers, they all are. It's just a formality for them to screen you before getting their line ID.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2796499]When meeting girls off Thaifriendly expect them to arrive at your hotel / apt at minimum 15 minutes late with an average of 30-40 minutes later than agreed. This is an important consideration if you are relying on a jump-start from sildenafil. Which I usually take 10-15 minutes before the "agreed" upon arrival. Thai girls do not consider themselves late if it is still within the hour they agreed to. After 1 hour and 15 minutes I will message them and tell them not to come anymore- to which they will protest and say they are on their way (probable lie). Part of the reason for this is they will initially agree to see you at a time that is not actually realistic for them because they just want to agree and know that in Thai cultures there are no repercussions for being late but there is a loss of face for being disagreeable.
It's sometimes a bit jarring when they show up on time or -gasp- a bit early.
This part of the culture cannot be changed and it's better to adapt to it than try to explain to them that "Westerners value punctuality"- to which they will nod their heads sympathetically and then keep on being late.
Filipinas are slightly worse than Thai in this regard.[/QUOTE]Many times "see you at 20.00" means "I leave my room at 20.00."
When Covid hit, and the bars closed, it was so dead in Pattaya that ladies would show up an hour early. That was weird. I still have one lady who is routinely 15 minutes early.
I took a bargirl to Walking Street last night. I hadn't gone in a year, when things were still dead.
Not dead anymore. WS is just as busy as before Covid now, maybe busier.
We hit Skyfall first. The first string was very good, lots of well endowed ladies dancing topless. The bargirl couldn't get enough of the them. She picked a lady for a drink, a tiny lady with a huge chest.
But, we were on tour, so we hit Baccara. Not so great there. Lots of normal ladies in bikinis. One drink and out.
Then the newly moved Windmill. I went immediately upstairs, which was jammed. Every place was pretty full, but Windmill was 98% full. 2 middle aged Farang ladies followed us up the stairs. I would guess they were looking for their husbands.
Windmill has a lewd atmosphere. Eventually, we settled in behind 2 naked ladies on a table, and the bargirl got to see a pair of pussies up close and personal. One lady had the female equivalent of an erect penis, her pussy area was engorged with blood, and she kept fingering her clit, which I interpreted as she was truly horny (amazingly enough). The bargirl didn't know how that worked, she never saw her own pussy.
We went back to my place, I gave her clit a licking, after 15 minutes, she asked to stop (in real life, if you make a lady cum, it's hard to get rid of them afterwards). Then, she gave me a 15 minute sloppy BJ, and then mounted me for a quick ending.
This was my second round of the day. The first round was similar, but the lady was not as talented. Perhaps I should organize some training.
I might barfine the Skyfall lady, but I suspect that Long Time would be frightfully expensive.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2796499]When meeting girls off Thaifriendly expect them to arrive at your hotel / apt at minimum 15 minutes late with an average of 30-40 minutes later than agreed. This is an important consideration if you are relying on a jump-start from sildenafil. Which I usually take 10-15 minutes before the "agreed" upon arrival. Thai girls do not consider themselves late if it is still within the hour they agreed to. After 1 hour and 15 minutes I will message them and tell them not to come anymore- to which they will protest and say they are on their way (probable lie). Part of the reason for this is they will initially agree to see you at a time that is not actually realistic for them because they just want to agree and know that in Thai cultures there are no repercussions for being late but there is a loss of face for being disagreeable.
It's sometimes a bit jarring when they show up on time or -gasp- a bit early.
This part of the culture cannot be changed and it's better to adapt to it than try to explain to them that "Westerners value punctuality"- to which they will nod their heads sympathetically and then keep on being late.
Filipinas are slightly worse than Thai in this regard.[/QUOTE]You are being very optimistic.
I've given up on TF. With most girls the conversation on Line died right after I agreed to their price (to which I most often agree unless it is outrageous). The last line of the conversation would read something like me saying "today 4 pm? This last line would be read, usually after 4 pm, or remain unread for days. In a few instances I'd get a message days later from the girl saying "Hi". I would not reply to this "Hi", why would I? My reply to this "Hi" would not be read, or it would show as read hours or days later.
By now I must have 15 or 20 such useless "Line contacts" of TF girls on my Line messenger, each with their own conversation stubs. To me TF is nothing more than a ghosting app.
What about us getting our heads together one day and launch a campaign against those ghosters to teach them a lesson? Like proposing 5 k for short time and sending them on fool's errands across town?
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2796502]If a girl on Thaifriendly says she is looking for a man to marry and is not there for sex, she is 100% a scammer. Please know, even though you must ask all the girls if they are freelancers and looking for customers, they all are. It's just a formality for them to screen you before getting their line ID.[/QUOTE]Not at all. I just had a normal chick from Bangkok I met on Thai Friendly last week come stay with me for 4 days. She is an assistant nursing student and works in a clothing store. We did all kinds of tourist things because she does not know Pattaya. Only came here to see me. She speaks perfect English. She just sent me a picture of the class she is in right now.
She left Monday then I met another chick on Thai Friendly who owns a salon in Bangkok. She was down here to relax 2 days. I went to her hotel in Dongtan Beach. Talking to another chick in Bangkok that is going to come see me. She said she rents motorbikes and loans money. Oh damn. Forgot before the chick came from Bangkok I met a chick who is a nurse at the hospital on Soi Buakhao. She works the nightshift and lives by Treetown. I have met plenty of chicks on TF that are not hookers.
I would not say to ask chicks if they are freelancers and looking for customers; much better to ask them the open ended question of what work they do. The ones that are hookers will say it, same as the chicks with normal jobs will. And most chicks have their Line ID on their profile or as soon as you say Hello, they will tell you the Line ID. I have not noticed anyone doing any screening.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2796276]Pro Tip:
If you have a lady overnight, try to have her turn off her phone. Especially important: don't let her take the phone into the toilet..
In fact, nothing good will come from any late night telephone call for a lady in your room.
If her telephone is off, she won't get the call from her "roommate" who needs the key to her room. Which is more likely to be a call inviting her to go to a boy karaoke bar.[/QUOTE]TF chick came over at 1 am last night. I bargained for her to stay until 10 am for 1200 baht. We got out of the bed at a few minutes past 10 am. She was writing on her phone and said she had to bring the key to her friend. Why would she say that when our time together was already over anyway? And I doubt she was heading to any karaoke bars at 10 am.
Yesterday I got 2 door keys and one of those fobs for the main outside door made. Keys were 40 baht each and the FOB was 200 baht. Took all of 2 minutes.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2796542]You are being very optimistic.
I've given up on TF. In a few instances I'd get a message days later from the girl saying "Hi". I would not reply to this "Hi", why would I? My reply to this "Hi" would not be read, or it would show as read hours or days later.
By now I must have 15 or 20 such useless "Line contacts" of TF girls on my Line messenger, each with their own conversation stubs. [/QUOTE]Like much everything else in life it is a numbers game. Even before apps and online I was doing party line dating where you call the number and talk to random strangers. Back then you had to trade pictures through normal mail.
You do not just talk to one and wait to meet her. You talk to tons and wait to see what falls in your lap. It is like fishing. Probably not the best method for extremely picky or impatient guys. Works great for a go with the flow guy like me though.
Last week I was driving down Soi Buakhao and a chick working at a bar called out to me. I made a you-turn to go talk to her. She gave me her Line and I sent her a message on the spot. Days later she still had not read it so I deleted her. Last night I passed by and was stopped in front of that bar due to traffic. The same chick called out to me but I gave her the you are full of shit hand signal. What you call ghosting (messages gone unanswered or unread) not only happens when you meet chicks on Thai Friendly; it happens when you meet chicks in real life too. Numbers game.
Hell, as I am writing this a chick I already know that I messaged 2 weeks ago is just responding!
The talent level at Skyfall was very high last night. One lady looked just like a Farang stripper, I guess she had a good doctor.
The mamasan asked the lady I was with if she wanted to work as a dancer. She might, if the pay is good. I hope she doesn't start to charge me more.
[QUOTE=XXL;2796542]I've given up on TF. With most girls the conversation on Line died right after I agreed to their price (to which I most often agree unless it is outrageous). The last line of the conversation would read something like me saying "today 4 pm? This last line would be read, usually after 4 pm, or remain unread for days. In a few instances I'd get a message days later from the girl saying "Hi". I would not reply to this "Hi", why would I? My reply to this "Hi" would not be read, or it would show as read hours or days later.[/QUOTE]Yes, Thai people are not known for their reliability, especially P4P girls. But the girls do worry about getting stood up because it happens frequently. I've taken a different approach, instead of setting a time, I've been saying something like "I need you here before 16:00, can you do that?" That worked beautifully with one girl about 5 days ago. Today I tried it with another girl and she initially said she could arrive by 16:00 but moments later she asked for 17:00. I have had success with this general technique over the years, these were just my two instances this week.
Of course, this won't stop a girl from saying she can arrive by 16:00 and then never coming. It does leave me guilt free when I make other arrangements at 16:01.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2796502]If a girl on Thaifriendly says she is looking for a man to marry and is not there for sex, she is 100% a scammer.[/QUOTE]That certainly isn't true. My good friend met his wife on TF and they just celebrated their 5th anniversary, they both seem happy living in USA. Yesterday at breakfast I met a Thai-Danish couple who met on TF 6 years ago and are married and live in Denmark.
If you constrain your searches to places like Pattaya and Patong and look for young girls with tattoos and bar pictures, I'm sure the scam percentage is very high.
[QUOTE=XXL;2796542]What about us getting our heads together one day and launch a campaign against those ghosters to teach them a lesson? Like proposing 5 k for short time and sending them on fool's errands across town?[/QUOTE]Nothing prevents you doing it yourself to girls that stood you up. All it would take is 50 baht for a new SIM card to open another LINE account.
I woke to the girl I barfined for short-time last night stroking my dick. I checked the time and it was 10.40 am. It was a case of the irresistible force (a second pop with a sexy girl) versus the immovable object (breakfast) and I'm ashamed to say breakfast won.
I waved the girl goodbye with a tip in her purse. Even though we'd agreed on short-time, she gave me what I consider to be the perfect long-time. A good fuck before bedtime, lots of cuddles and affection during the night and then the option of a second pop in the morning.
After my usual English breakfast at Sports Lounge I asked Sam if he could show me his condo. Walking along Soi Buakhao, we turned right just after Soi Boomerang, followed the road up to where it curves left next to the mall, and his condo was a short distance up this street on the left. He lives in a studio flat, with the bed, kitchen and lounge area all in one room, plus a bathroom and a balcony overlooking a big pool. It was compact but reminded me of a decent 4 star hotel room. He's paying 12,000 baht a month plus bills.
I found it eye-opening as in the future I could see myself living in Thailand. The prospect of being able to meet up with leather-faced grizzly old expats like Mr E at Cheap Charlies and learn how to do Pattaya correctly (on a shoe-string with a bare minimum of pretty girls) is just too hard to resist.
On my daily trip to a 7 Eleven I pondered how do the staff put up with that 'Hello, velcooom' message every five seconds? After I picked up my laundry I decided to visit Soi 6.
It was 3. 30 by the time I stepped on the street. On my first recce along its full length I didn't see any standout girls. I was however recognised by girls at Kawaii and Ruby Club, who I fucked in November, and the girl I fucked at Exotica yesterday. I find it a bit awkward being recognised so frequently on Soi 6. I'll get a reputation if I'm not careful.
It was a scorching hot afternoon so I decided to pick a bar and sit down for a drink. Usually my favourite bars are the busy ones about halfway down, but I decided to pick one near the 2nd Road end.
The one with most girls seemed to be Mods Bar. There were about 15 girls, lounging lazily and snacking at the front, coming alive when customers walked past. I was tempted by a very dark-skinned girl with incredible braided hair but instead offered a drink to a small, cute girl with shorter hair. I was surprised when she told me she was 27 because she looked late teens. We clicked, so up to the room we went. It cost 400 baht and although she asked for 1300, she accepted 1000.
The process is always the same. Boy showers, girl showers, boy waits on bed, girls reappears wrapped in a towel, let battle commence. She was a great kisser (just the right amount of tongue) and before long I was fucking her in my usual one-two-three of positions, mish, doggy and cowgirl. The doggy was especially good as she widened her knees, lowering her bum for optimal access and I gave her a good hard pounding.
My plan had been to go back to my hotel but I decided to pop in to Nui the Nymphomaniac's bar. A cute girl told me Nui was 'at the salon' which I wondered might be bargirl speak for giving a blow-dry to a customer upstairs. But ten minutes later Nui appeared at the front of the bar, her hair long with several coloured streaks that seem to be en vogue at the moment. She looked very sexy wearing a sailor outfit and fishnets.
I only intended to have a drink with her but inevitably I found myself getting turned on. Although this girl looks incredibly cute, she's a tiger in the bedroom and I'd fantasised about fucking her again many times back in England between trips. I decided I couldn't wait any longer. I paid 400 for the room and we went up one flight of stairs to the very same room I fucked her in last November.
I was worried I might be unable to get it up as I'd only just finished an energetic session with the girl from Mods Bar, but I needn't have worried. This girl turns me on so much and before long I was sliding in to her. The sex was great but even better was all of the kissing that followed. 'I missed you' she said.
The time was 6. 45 by the time I was heading back to my hotel. I felt hungry but didn't have time for a sit-down meal at a restaurant as I was meeting Sam at 7. 30 and needed to shave beforehand. So once again I had the classic 7 Eleven dinner of cheese toasties with a few cakes for dessert. Hello velcooom.
On the walk up to Subway to meet Sam I passed Duangjai and Astro Bar on Soi Lengkee. Both were sleepy in November but now lively with girls, including a few younger ones who caught my eye. Pattaya continues its upward trajectory after covid. Further evidence of this is the big plot of land where Soi Made In Thailand used to be is being developed in to 50 new beer bars. I believe the complex will be called Myth. Let's hope it isn't a myth and the complex does actually happen because Pattaya needs more beer-bar options after the demise of Simon's and Drinking Street.
After a quick drink at Nong Bar on Soi Diana, we decided to head to Soi 7 to see how it's looking.
The answer was mixed. On the plus side, it's much busier with many of the bars now open. It feels lively when you walk down the centre of the street, being accosted by eager ladies outside their bars. The main negative though is I saw hardly any girls under 25.
Chor Leera had a sexy girl but she was playing pool with a customer. Luxor was packed with customers but all of the ladies were of a more mature vintage. In November I bought a drink for a pretty 22 year old at this bar but there weren't any girls that age today.
I did buy a drink for a smily 28 year old at Hookup Corner, mainly because I liked her friendly attitude. She was extremely flirty, stroking my leg higher and higher and asking me 'what are you thinking? ' Although she wasn't the type I usually go for, she seemed a guaranteed good time. The barfine here is 500 for short-time and 800 for long-time.
'How much for girl? ' asked Sam.
'Different for each girl' she replied.
'But how much for you? '.
She hesitated. I'd bought her a drink, yet Sam was asking the question. You could see she was uncertain how to respond but then she looked at me, squeezed my hand and said '1000 short-time'. It was a good price as she was a nice girl but I suspect she might have quoted Sam higher.
It's great to see Soi 7 busy again but I think it's probably now more aimed at guys who like a quiet drink with older, friendly girls.
Sam and I decided to walk back to Soi LK Metro and visit some of the gogo bars. It didn't work out that way though because I found my girl in the first bar we visited, Sugar Sugar.
At first it wasn't too promising, the stage filled with ten topless older girls and plenty of silicone. But I saw a familiar face sat with an elderly customer in the corner. It was the 20 year old cutie I'd bought a drink for in November, who I'd wanted to barfine but it was too early in the night. She'd been very flirty, lifting her knickers to show me her shaved pussy. She recognised me and waved.
15 minutes later her customer left and she immediately came over and wedged herself next to me. I bought her a drink and knew that this was my girl, she was pretty and a little ray of sunshine.
However I was nearly put off by the bar's relentless ladydrink pressure. Two girls appeared in front of me with a tray of tequila shots and another random girl sat next to me. The girl holding the tray indicated I should buy all three of them, plus my girl, a tequila! I shook my head but they wouldn't budge, asking over and over. Things like this make me lose my love for gogo bars in Thailand. You don't get it in Philippines. I ended up buying one extra tequila for my girl before paying the bill. Even the boy handing me my change wanted a tequila!
The barfine in Sugar Sugar is 1200 and my girl quoted me Walking Street prices of 3000 for short-time and 5000 for long-time. She was the youngest girl left in the bar so I suspect she felt emboldened to aim high, but she accepted my 2000 plus tip counteroffer for short-time.
The girl lived up to expectations back in the room.
She was an enthusiastic kisser and gave me one of the best blowjobs I've ever had, slow and deep with lots of teasing with the tip of her tongue. The best thing was the angle though. She leaned across me on all fours and gave me a great porn-style view of her sucking me as I played with her small tits. This girl was a performer.
I fucked her in mish, before holding her hands and flipping her on top in one smooth movement. She rode me confidently before I fucked her doggystyle. I could have cum but I was so impressed with her blowjob skills, I wanted more. It felt so good I felt myself quivering in pleasure several times before I eventually came.
I returned the favour and gave her a oral as she sat on my face. I love the view, looking up. She had small tits with erect nipples and locked eyes on me the whole time as she grinded her pussy and gripped the headboard tightly. She assertively took my hand and made me stick two fingers up her pussy and shortly afterwards she began groaning loudly and shaking uncontrollably.
Great sex with a great girl.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2796515]I might barfine the Skyfall lady, but I suspect that Long Time would be frightfully expensive.[/QUOTE]You BF 3 girls LT every day so pretty sure 1 gogo girl won't break your bank.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2796276]In fact, nothing good will come from any late night telephone call for a lady in your room.
If her telephone is off, she won't get the call from her "roommate" who needs the key to her room. Which is more likely to be a call inviting her to go to a boy karaoke bar.[/QUOTE]
How many times has this actually happened to you? Having a lady leave on you early I mean. In all my years of living in Thailand it has happened to me ONCE! By a Sensations gogo girl who bailed on me at around 5 am cause she said her sister is sick or something like that. Oddly that same girl eventually went to Japan with me for nearly 2 weeks for FREE!
One hotel on walking street CLOSED today despite full occupancy due to owners dispute and bleeding money (due to high staff wages and operational costs).
Another hotel on P72 alley facing similar consequences SOON.
Can't name names for personal reasons.
Now to good stuff.
Airport gogo showing signs of reopening.
LK Vegas gogo showing signs of life.
Music festival is jontiem this weekend.
[QUOTE=GentileBear;2796056]I never thought about asking a 7-11 employee out. But going to 7-11 over there is a great cultural experience. Sometimes credit cards are taken sometimes not. No reason ever given. Just hand signals saying NO or Stick in Card. Beautifully dressed gogo dancers buy the instant soups or chicken meals that take the 7-11 staff 4 minutes to prep and package. Then there is the Grab guys jumping in line to pickup online orders. Meanwhile I am patiently holding my sodas and chips in line and the 3 Punjabi Indians Bark at the staff to Boil Water for the 1 Tap Ramen Noodle Cup of Noodles they all 3 bought. And the staff can't understand that they simply want the Noodle Cup filled with boiling water. Total Chaos and great insight. Now, I will call myself a hypocrite due to the fact that the Beer / Alcohol sales are probably code locked and can't scan at the wrong hours. Sometimes the doors to the beer are closed and sometimes they are opened. Never know when you can buy and not be hassled. But sometimes I see a beer and I open the door and get it. Only to have to surrender the beer at the counter with the other go back items because apparently its too late or too early. Then there is the European tourist who needs to read the label or inspect the label with the refrigerator door open with his knees and decide after 4 minutes to grab another item in the refrigerator thereby blocking my fat ass from grabbing my Coke Soda ... Love the 7-11's in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Let me simplify this. Can't buy alcohol between 2 pm and 5 pm (due to school hours?
Also can't buy after midnight.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2796695]How many times has this actually happened to you? Having a lady leave on you early I mean. In all my years of living in Thailand it has happened to me ONCE! By a Sensations gogo girl who bailed on me at around 5 am cause she said her sister is sick or something like that. Oddly that same girl eventually went to Japan with me for nearly 2 weeks for FREE![/QUOTE]Ladies leaving early is very common. We went through this a few months ago, when there was a discussion of the key trick, and how to avoid it.
Because so many bargirls have Thai boyfriends (or tomboys) compared to years past, they need to get back to their room not long after closing time of their bar. So their Significant Other won't know they went with a customer.
And, sponsored ladies often have to call their sponsor after their bar closes.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2796695]You BF 3 girls LT every day so pretty sure 1 gogo girl won't break your bank.[/QUOTE]I might have a lady come to my condo in the afternoon, and one at night, 2000 baht apiece. Often I just have 1 lady who spends the night.
But I don't really know current prices at WS gogos. Could be scary.
My lady friend really wants me to barfine some silicon enhanced gogo dancer, for reasons unknown to me.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2796502]If a girl on Thaifriendly says she is looking for a man to marry and is not there for sex, she is 100% a scammer. Often they will present themselves as very poor and naive, or alternatively strangely well off and speaking very good english. The latter type will quickly pivot to get you involved in a crytpo-scheme, or try to get you to take compromising photos to blackmail you with. Please know, even though you must ask all the girls if they are freelancers and looking for customers, they all are. It's just a formality for them to screen you before getting their line ID.[/QUOTE]In my experience, most of the profiles on TF in Pattaya and BKK are working girls. I know there's some commenters who disagree and say regular girls looking for dates are common on TF, but not in my experience. I'd say it's less than 10 percent, especially in Pattaya of course.
Most of the ones that act like they are looking for dating and claim not to be working girls are just playing a long game where they'll start asking for money after the first date, I think this makes them feel like they are not hookers or something.
If you are looking for quality civvie girls, day game and nabbing them that way is your best bet. I didn't have luck with day game my last trip. I'm hoping next time to have some more LT type experiences which I didn't have last time as ST started to get a little old for me.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2796765]Let me simplify this. Can't buy alcohol between 2 pm and 5 pm (due to school hours?
Also can't buy after midnight.[/QUOTE]Really?! I did not know that - 2 pm and 5 pm is about right when I would go back to my hotel and hit a 7-11 for items. For School hours?! Oh Jesus.
If a bargirl is low volume, I will lick her pussy. Most will make noises, they will all tolerate it, a few will claim they have cum after a few minutes so they can go to the Main event. A couple have told me they feel nothing. Actually many younger ladies just get ticklish, until they hit 30 years old or so when their nerves mature.
One lady I have known for many years started feeling things about three months ago. She can't cum, but goes into a fugue state when her pussy is licked, she shivers uncontrollably, is almost screaming, I worry about her heart giving out. Weird given her apathy a few months ago.
Of course, given most ladies' reaction to having their pussies licked, there should be PL bars, just like BJ bars, but I guess a lady can have her pussy licked for free anytime she wants.
Fatigue had been catching up with me in recent days so it was nice to have a good nine hours sleep without a girl in my bed.
At 3 pm in the afternoon I decided to seek out some daytime action. I walked up Soi Pothole, perhaps looking for a gents club, but Maggie Mays had a dozen older girls outside and High Rollers looked closed. I did see one exotic looking girl with a ribbon in her hair but I kept walking as 'Dirty Old Town' played from one of the bars.
A quick massage on Soi Honey sounded appealing but once again the selection of girls was uninspiring. One of them shouted 'massage and boom boom' to me as I walked past. I used to find it more exciting when the extras were done in secret behind closed curtains.
So with stunning predictably I found myself going to Soi 6 again. Not that I'm apologising, it's one of my favourite places on earth.
I chose to stop at Roxy Bar first, where all of the girls were wearing sexy nurses outfits. There were a few nice girls in here and I bought a drink for a pretty girl called Bowie, but when I enquired about prices she told me that she was on her period.
3 Angels Bar was very appropriately named as I saw three candidates for a ladydrink when I walked inside. After taking my time, pondering the pros and cons of each, I picked a nice looking 21 year old wearing cats ears and fishnet stockings, always a turn-on for me. She was bubbly and good fun, the perfect choice to take upstairs. The room was 400 and she asked for 2000 but accepted 1500.
When she undressed she had a perfect slim body with medium size tits. She crawled over me and kissed me passionately, so I knew I was in for a good time. I insisted she keep her cat ears on during sex. They had bells on, which jingled as she rode me and I must admit, it was a headfuck fucking a cat doggy-style.
What a great girl. We lay on the bed for fifteen minutes afterwards, cooling down under the fan, chatting and fooling around. I love a girl with a sense of humour.
I had two tasty Thai dishes at Dre on Soi Lengkee, one of my favourite places to eat as the food is tasty and the lady who runs it is lovely.
It proved to be a very eventful but frustrating night.
It started well with a beer at The Bay on Soi Buakhao. There were two pretty girls there and I bought a drink for one, who was 21 from Buriram. The bars must be doing a big recruitment drive in that city because a lot of the newer girls are from there. She was very pretty and good fun, a definite candidate for a barfine.
In Area 52 Sam saw his favourite girl, who told him she doesn't go with customers, leave with a big ginger-haired guy. He was upset about it but I defended the girl, suggesting that she was completely new to the business when he asked and it's impractical for girls to accept every barfine offer that lands on their lap.
Sam sent her a disgruntled message on Line and she replied that the guy she left with was just a friend. It's amusing how bargirls can never admit to one customer they go with another.
My favourite girl was also in Area 52, but not working. She was with a group of friends, clinking glasses, playing pool and taking lots of selfies (on Line she'd later post videos at a restaurant with the same friends and then a nightclub). She smiled over to me a few times but I suspect I won't get chance to barfine her in the time I have remaining on this trip. It's a shame because she is extremely pretty.
At Oh Bar the cute girl I barfined on my first day was playing a very excitable game of doubles pool with two English guys. It was funny, she kept smiling over to me but Sam thought it was to him. We went to Sweethearts and witnessed the lowest quality game of pool ever played, both players going in off at least four times.
So far, so good, it had been a good night. But things plummeted when we decided to go to the gogo bars on Soi LK Metro.
We walked in to Catch Me and it was completely lifeless inside with no girls dancing, so we left. At Paradise I bought a drink for a very cute, slim girl. I liked her enough to enquire about the barfine and she told me it was 1500 and her prices were 3000 for short-time and 5000 for long-time, in other words Walking Street prices. I countered with 2000 plus tip and she accepted without much thinking. Things looked promising but then she started saying she was tired and I got red flags. 3500+ is too much to pay for a starfish.
I always check my bills and noticed they'd charged me 305 baht for my sang som and orange (120 for the sang som and 185 for the orange). They corrected the bill, saying it was an honest mistake but I have my doubts.
I've barfined two beautiful girls from Crystal Club in the past but the talent levels have dropped significantly in recent trips. On the bright side there were several topless dancers to ogle.
Queen initially seemed fantastic but provided another frustrating experience. Firstly the positives. It was packed and there were 15 girls on stage, dancing energetically. There were some pretty ones too, especially sat around the bar with customers. I saw a dazzling girl smiling down at me from the stage so I offered her a drink.
But then it went downhill. In yesteryear a girl would come down and sit with you immediately if you bought her a drink, but not now. She continued dancing until the shift-change, leaving me with her tequila sat in front of me for at least 20 minutes. The big problem with this is the girls might get multiple ladydrinks bought for them each time they dance and as if to prove the point, when she left the stage she sat next to a skinny older guy sat on the opposite side of the bar. By this point I'd finished my drink, so I decided to pay my chit, minus her ladydrink. When the girl saw that I was leaving, she quickly rushed over, said a quick Hello, and downed her tequila. I wasn't accepting that. I told the mamasan that I waited half an hour and when I buy a ladydrink I expect to at least sit with a girl. The mamasan begrudgingly refunded the ladydrink cost.
In summary, Queen is a great bar aside from one key detail. They do not give a toss about their customers, it's all geared to ladydrinks.
I decided to scrap the idea of visiting more gogo bars. I'd wanted to barfine in both Paradise and Queen but there's too much commercialism at LK Metro's gogo bars these days. There are some great girls, for example the hottie I barfined from Sugar Sugar who provided some of the best sex of the trip, but even that was nearly derailed by ridiculous pressure from the girls with the tequila tray.
On this trip I've visited gogo bars in both Angeles and Pattaya and there is no doubt you get a far better customer experience in Angeles.
It was well past midnight and time to find a girl.
The pretty girl in The Bay was with a customer. A tall, skinny girl shouted 'Lance!' when she saw me walking around Tree Town. I recognised her as a girl I bought a drink for in November and was very impressed she remembered my name. 'Where you go? ' I asked. She was wearing casual clothes and was with a friend. 'I go eat' she said so I decided not to try to arrange a hasty short-time.
I thought I'd struck lucky in Inferno on Soi Pothole. I bought a drink for a sweet looking 21 year old. She was flirty, affectionate and giggly and accepted my offer of a barfine. She asked for 2000 longtime and accepted 1500. I was pleased that despite a frustrating night I'd found my girl but of course nothing ever comes easy when you have nights like this. When we'd nearly finished our drinks she typed a message in to the translation App on her phone:
'Can we meet tomorrow? I have errands for my mother tonight'.
In other words, she has a boyfriend and it's too close to 3 am to accept a short-time. I told her I can only do tonight but she dug her heels in and we reached stalemate. I paid my bill and left. The time was 1. 30 am and for the third time tonight a girl I wanted to barfine had jilted me. Although I was frustrated, I had to smile to myself. These nights happen from time to time, you'd just got to roll with the punches.
One noticeable difference between November and now is there are hardly any streetwalkers to be found on Soi Buakhao and the raised walkway in front of Tree Town. I get a kick out of street action so decided to walk to Beach Road. From Soi 13 I turned left and there were freelancers dotted all the way along to Walking Street. A lot of them were older, chubbier or ladyboys but there were a few foxy cougars. I stopped to chat with one but she wasn't as foxy up close as I initially though. Another plan abandoned.
I backtracked to Soi Honey but it had slim pickings. The time was 2. 15 and a lot of the bars on Soi Pothole were now closed too. The street was eerily dark and I resigned myself to a girl-free night. I'd walked a lot and my feet were screaming submission, so I decided to head back to my hotel.
But Pattaya often delivers last minute winners.
There were three girls outside a massage shop and two them were older and looked well-worn. But stood next to them was a skinny girl wearing a pretty dress. Facially she looked similar to the beautiful girl from Area 52 I want to barfine, albeit not on the same level. An uglier sister maybe. I was surprised when she told me she was 21. The room cost 300 and she charged 1000. The sex was great as she was a passionate kisser and eager to please. The bed was uncomfortable as I felt springs in my back and we had to share a towel for some reason, but minor gripes aside it was good way to end what had been a challenging night.
I had planned to barfine a lady I know at Catflaps today, but when I went there, the mamasan advised me they had a group of new ladies newly arrived. I bought drinks for both the lady I came for, and a lady the Mamasan brought over. The mamasan asked me to train her, so that's what I did.
The three of us walked to my pool villa, and proceeded to drink. To cut to the chase, after a few hours, everyone was naked, and ultimately, in the bedroom. The two ladies were intent on making me cum, but I noticed that they were hands on with each other. But I knew the newbie, only 20 years old, was not really horny, so I worked on her more. Eventually, I had the other lady behind her, holding her legs in the air, while I fucked the newbie.
Not a bad day, although someone will tell me I am doing it wrong.
Damage: 2000 baht per lady, plus 1000 barfine.
I worked the newbie more to see if anything made her horny. Her clit was dead, it just made her ticklish, but her pussy did react to manual stimulation, in fact she was very wet.
[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2796932]3 Angels Bar was very appropriately named as I saw three candidates for a ladydrink when I walked inside. After taking my time, pondering the pros and cons of each, I picked a nice looking 21 year old wearing cats ears and fishnet stockings, always a turn-on for me. She was bubbly and good fun, the perfect choice to take upstairs. The room was 400 and she asked for 2000 but accepted 1500.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the detailed reports, appreciate it.
Soi 6 girls are asking for 2 k ST now? I just take them upstairs then give them 1 k after plus tip if earned, is that what others do on here?
One of my regulars has an 18 year old daughter back in Isaan who likes men too much. I think the race is on between the daughter spitting out a baby with one of her boyfriends, or coming to work Soi 6 and getting on some form of birth control.
It's a significant financial hit if the baby comes first.
Bigger problem: everyone in the village knows the daughter goes with many men. Big loss of face. The only way to regain face is to show a lot of money.
The same lady told me she got barfined by a Thai man over Facebook. He took her on a day trip to Bang Sean to meet his friends. She was introduced as his girlfriend, although they never met before. Apparently, he was gay, where it was not socially acceptable.
I have noted before that a good number of bargirls go with Tomboys. They have different sexual preferences than other ladies, specifically, they want their clit hit hard, more than a dick can do. Tomboys know how to hit a clit hard. Unfortunately, if you try to lick their pussies (and clit) you are going to suffer, since they will smash your face if they are feeling it.
Which goes back to why I have a max of 2 ladies come to my condo. I had 3 ladies come to my condo to drink. The alpha has a long time Tomboy. When they were drunk and naked, 2 pinned me down on the sofa. The alpha then smashed my face with her pussy, she got so close I couldn't breathe (death by pussy). I couldn't push ladies off me, so it was a close thing. All the alpha was thinking about at that moment was using my face to get herself off. Not fun for me.
Another trick is when I am lying on the bed getting a BJ, another lady will sit on my face. If I am lucky, she just wants licking, sometimes they smash my face. But if my arms are free, I can protect myself a bit. Not easy to maneuver when you are getting a BJ, though, and sometimes the BJ turns into a fuck. And sometimes when your face is getting smashed, you don't worry about what the other lady is doing.
So, I try to avoid ladies who have Tomboys. I do know a couple who can fake it with a man, ie play like a regular lady.
FYI, I used InDrive to hail a ride from the Pattaya Pier (pier to catch a boat to Koh Larn). The cost was 1,800 THB. Driver picked me up at 9:15 am (Sunday), drove 120 kph, no traffic, and arrived at BKK at 10:30 am.
[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2796932]I chose to stop at Roxy Bar first, where all of the girls were wearing sexy nurses outfits. There were a few nice girls in here and I bought a drink for a pretty girl called Bowie, but when I enquired about prices she told me that she was on her period.[/QUOTE]This kind of nonsense happens far too often in the Nightwish bars. The girls are making so much money from just showing up and getting lady drinks that they don't care about going to a room. It's a hangover from Covid - they need to pay the girls big bucks to fill the bar.
I'm getting to to point where I won't buy a girl a drink before knowing that I am not wasting my time, my first question is do you go upstairs?
[QUOTE=Downandup;2797180]This kind of nonsense happens far too often in the Nightwish bars. The girls are making so much money from just showing up and getting lady drinks that they don't care about going to a room.
I'm getting to to point where I won't buy a girl a drink before knowing that I am not wasting my time, my first question is do you go upstairs?[/QUOTE]Why wouldn't it? Guys continue to walk in and spend money without or before asking any questions. For years a couple of us have been saying to ask questions first. But we do not know shit from applebutter around this place. Som nam na.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2796972]Thanks for all the detailed reports, appreciate it.
Soi 6 girls are asking for 2 k ST now? I just take them upstairs then give them 1 k after plus tip if earned, is that what others do on here?[/QUOTE]I have paid 1 thousand up to now. I don't ask how much. I take the girl upstairs, then give her 1 thousand when I'm done.
[QUOTE=Downandup;2797180]This kind of nonsense happens far too often in the Nightwish bars. The girls are making so much money from just showing up and getting lady drinks that they don't care about going to a room. It's a hangover from Covid - they need to pay the girls big bucks to fill the bar.
I'm getting to to point where I won't buy a girl a drink before knowing that I am not wasting my time, my first question is do you go upstairs?[/QUOTE]The laws of supply and demand will take care of this soon. Customers will stop buying drinks if ladies won't go to the room.
Also, there is now an excess of ladies and a shortage of customers.
The only obstacle to these economics are the idiots who send the ladies money from home.
My last day at the rented pool villa: my 12.00 lady sort of cancelled. She woke up late and asked to come 2 hours late, and could only stay for a short time. Quick answer: no.
Good thing, too, because my night lady showed up in the early afternoon, a friend in tow. She said they wanted to swim. After 2 shots of tequila, they were swimming naked. For a long time.
After the swim, they came in to drink more tequila, and soon it was 2 on 1. The new lady was a proficient ball ripper, almost painfully so. Not as much licking as ripping.
The other lady passed out on the bed after a while, so I had the ball ripper mount me, and I finished quick quick. After some time, the dead lady came back to life, and went back to the pool and the tequila. I came out to watch for a bit, they weren't shy.
When we were rolling around the bed, one lady noticed bruises on my arm. I told her they were from ladies grabbing me during sex. Sure enough, 5 minutes later while I licked her pussy, she grabbed the same arm and left more bruises.
My invited lady is pretty sure of herself, she is constantly barfined, has plenty of quasi boyfriends and an English husband. Before Covid, she had 5 sponsors and a live in Thai boyfriend.
Now, she is considering her options.
Anyway, the ladies have gone home, and I am going to call it a night.
Note: one thing I see a lot is old guys buying drinks for bored ladies. I don't know what they are talking about, but the ladies seem really bored. I talk about the ladies, her family, her friends and her customers. They interested in that.
As today was my last full day in Pattaya, I wanted to end with a bang. My plan was to have two afternoon sessions and then another girl in the evening.
I sent the girl from Inferno a message on Line, asking if she'd like to come to my hotel. 'Cannot, work 2 pm' she replied.
So I set off for my afternoon adventure with a spring in my step and received a big stroke of luck. Soi Honey has generally been uninspiring on this trip but I was pleasantly surprised to see a cute girl at the very first massage shop on the left, Paradise. She had braces on her teeth, fashionable shoulder length hair and a curvy figure beneath the lime green crop-top she was wearing. She told me it was 200 for the room and 1000 for the full service, excellent value given the quality of the girl.
She led me upstairs to the 'Thai oil room' which was a big room with lots of curtained cubicles. Yes! This is what I want when I have massage with extras, not the comfort of my own room. I love the sleaziness of fucking a girl within meters of other punters. She led me to a bed and closed the curtain behind us. The room had little more than a bed and a fan.
After showering she got me to lie face down on the hard bed and gave me a really good, firm massage. I heard soft whimpering and groans coming from a nearby cubicle.
Ten minutes later she asked me to turn around and I was erect. 'Ham let' I said (small dick) and she laughed. She was naked and had a lovely pair of medium size tits. She rolled a condom on and gave me a covered blowjob, which I'm not a fan of as you lose almost all sensation. So I asked her to lie on her back and slid in to her hairy pussy. I fucked her slowly at first, then gave her a good pounding as she groaned softly. I was hoping she'd been louder as there's always a sense of competition in these places! The room was roasting hot with only a ceiling fan lazily whirring away, so I got her to ride me to a climax as I squeezed her tits.
I decided to go to Inferno next to see the girl I wanted to barfine late last night but couldn't as she had errands to run (in other words, she has a Thai boyfriend). Last night she sent me a message on Line which said 'I love you', so I was a little disappointed by her tired greeting and lack of conversation. She was a different girl today. She also wasn't as pretty as I remembered with my beer goggles on, so I decided to move on.
3. 30 pm is definitely the best time to visit Soi Honeywith the most girls. If you're looking for a new suit, I highly recommend New Armani, 'tailor for the stars'.
Inevitably I ended up on Soi 6. It was about 4 pm and the bars were busy. I slowly walked its full length, returning smiles of girls I'd fucked in Mods Bar, Lust, Kawaii and Ruby Club.
Playpen looked promising with 20 girls in red lacy underwear. I sat on a table immediately behind the girls but they barely looked around once, making it impossible to choose a favourite. The mamasan then took photos of each of the girls in sexy poses, sitting astride a table or on all-fours. My two favourites were a blond with an extremely pretty face and a dark-skinned curvy girl.
Seduction had 15 girls in sailor outfits, including two pretty ones I'd certainly be interested in taking upstairs. But again they all just stayed at the front and didn't turn around. It seems to be the trend, particularly in Nightwish bars. The mamasan appeared at my table and gestured to the girls, asking if I'd like to buy a drink for one. I had to laugh, I couldn't see most of their faces.
Some bars on Soi 6 you've got see a girl you like and take her in to the bar with you. And that's exactly what I did at Chilli. Sat at the front was a skinny girl with Vietnamese features. I bought her a drink and she rubbed my crotch as we drank it. The room was 400 and she quoted 1200 but accepted 1000.
The room was one of the better ones on Soi 6, with a large mirror at the foot of the bed and sheets that looked like they might have been cleaned within the past week. She gave me a nice blowjob and then we ticked off the holy trinity of positions, missionary, doggy and cowgirl. She was a passionate kisser, which always adds to the enjoyment.
By the time I got back to room I was feeling rough. I had a pounding headache and a high temperature. I took some paracetamol and relaxed in my room, air-con set to a low temperature. An hour later I still felt bad so decided to abandon my plans of going out tonight. A night in always seems such a waste in Pattaya, especially the last night of my holiday, but sometimes it's for the best.
Once again, I've really enjoyed my time in Pattaya. It's only been a short six day trip this time, on the way home from Philippines, but I've met some great girls. The place is on an upward trajectory after covid and it's great to see new bars opening and the place busier.
On a side note, one of the regular topics on the Pattaya forum is alternative destinations to visit. I went to Angeles earlier in the trip and I'm pleased to report it's getting back towards the Angeles of old, with the bars busy, plenty of pretty girls and fantastic service. I met some lovely girls and most stayed until midday next day. One 19 year old bought her handcuffs and called me Officer Lance as I fucked her bareback all night. Yes, the prices have gone up (like everywhere), but notwithstanding one troll on the Angeles forum who ludicrously claims there are no pretty girls, everyone else seems to be having a great time there and there are lots of very positive reports.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2796865]......there should be PL bars, just like BJ bars,....[/QUOTE]NYC, 1970's, 80's, 90's. 42nd st. , put a token in a slot in a booth, screen goes up, pussy in your face, lick until the screen goes down, put another token, lick same pussy or other of a dozen waiting, rinse and repeat.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2797252]NYC, 1970's, 80's, 90's. 42nd st. , put a token in a slot in a booth, screen goes up, pussy in your face, lick until the screen goes down, put another token, lick same pussy or other of a dozen waiting, rinse and repeat.[/QUOTE]Actually, my point was, if ladies like having their pussies licked so much, why aren't there bars where the ladies pay to have their pussies licked?
Two answers:
They only like having their pussy licked if their Tilac does the licking.
But.
If someone opened a pussy licking bar where Tomboys did the licking, it would be jammed.
I had a chick in my phone for the longest. I guess from Thai Friendly or something. But she would never respond or come over so I finally deleted her. Friday for some reason she sent me a message out of the blue and I asked why she is always bullshitting around. She said because she didn't know if I wanted freelance or not.
So yesterday we nailed down that she would come at 9 pm. She told me 1500 short time or 3000 long time. I said fuck that. I will pay you 1000 for short time. She said no at first but immediately said she would only stay 1 hour. I said okay. She arrived at 9 pm sharp.
We got to talking and shit. She is 22 years old from Pattaya and finished the university. Her mom bought a nail shop for her. She said her mom is 56 and she has to take care of her mom. I said wait a damn minute. Your mom is young. How old does a parent need to be before a child starts taking care of them? She got sad and almost started crying and picked up her bag wanting to leave, telling me that I do not understand Thailand. I said well I know how Thailand is but really I do not understand it. I said it sounds like your mom just needs a boyfriend. She said that she has one already but still will not let her or her older sister have boyfriends, instead insisting that they stay home and take care of her.
Next thing I know she is sucking my dick. I could not pay her to quit. Great GFE. She woke me up at 7 am saying she had to go home and get ready for work. I told her I would take her home since she lives literally like 3 minutes away. Get to her house and she opens the gate with a remote control. They have 3 cars and 2 motorbikes and seem to be pretty well off. So why is she freelancing?
As soon as I got home she sent me a message asking about my bed. I tell her I know it is the most comfortable bed in Pattaya and that I made it myself. You can come again to sleep in it anytime you want. She said that she would like to come back tonight if she finishes work early. 1000 baht well spent.
[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2797244]As today was my last full day in Pattaya, I wanted to end with a bang. [/QUOTE]Lance,
A good report as usual.
FYI, your PMs are either full or disabled. 👍.
Cheers. G.
I intentionally overpay one lady (3000 baht for ST). She is my regular massage lady, but today I asked her to visit for a quickie.
I know she has a son who was seriously injured in a motorcycle accident, so I overpay her.
She's a MILF with a big rack, and pretty good in bed. Her old photos show she was a hottie in her younger days.
It was a bit awkward at first, but a little gel on her pussy and some rubbing got her going. My intent was to finish quickly and send her away, but she had other ideas and stretched it out, so I fucked her twice.
Not a bad start to the day.
Now its back to my condo, and possibly a slow week, I have nobody scheduled.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2797394]
If someone opened a pussy licking bar where Tomboys did the licking, it would be jammed.[/QUOTE]Can only imagine the long queue of sex starved 50+ yo ladies waiting for their turn to have their nampla-smelling hairy pussy licked! Fee probably would be more than one for BJ in a BJ bar, so good income for someone who could take it.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2797456]Can only imagine the long queue of sex starved 50+ yo ladies waiting for their turn to have their nampla-smelling hairy pussy licked! Fee probably would be more than one for BJ in a BJ bar, so good income for someone who could take it.[/QUOTE]You just reminded me of my ex-wife pushing my head down to eat her pussy that smelled and tasted like the bottom of an outhouse. Very few women have enough baht to pay me to repeat that nightmare.
Not been down that road for a while since Covid! Across from Marina Hotel up from Walking Street, there is a road that leads to 3rd Road, use to be loads of Tom bars along that Soi, there was a Bacarra gal who currently works at H. Are. First chance she got when her sister hooked up and moved to the USA Got a bit of money opened up a Tom club other side of 3rd Road Soi Bonkot or Land office Road. I was invited one evening to her place and had no idea so many of the Bacarra girls were into Toms or just playing around.
They did a whole show kind of like a karaoke place you buy bottle service Tom goes on dance and the girl customer picks them for company. Now I'm not into stinky pussy sure everyone had one and I've had my share of older ones deprive not sure but none of them stink in fact they all smell and taste good. The ones out of the business hairy pussy having some issues with allergies and love a good eat out prefer a shaved beaver hairy causes me to sneeze and nose to get stuff up.
I've walked by a number of nights going back to the bike outside to check the old freelancers inside the Bamboo bar, I take them young, old, even fat at times but always attracted if an older one takes care of themselves and a pair of legs. Few I've taken and all were excellent service even back to their place at times beyond GFE recently one from the Triangle bar and none of them their pussy smell. The ones I've had were young and had no education in Hygiene.
Prior to Covid, I was told there was a male *****house on 13/? Near Boystown that Thai neglected by their Thai man going to get laid not being a stud I didn't consider the job I'm a moment type of guy?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2797434]We got to talking and shit. She is 22 years old from Pattaya and finished the university. Her mom bought a nail shop for her. She said her mom is 56 and she has to take care of her mom. I said wait a damn minute. Your mom is young. How old does a parent need to be before a child starts taking care of them? She got sad and almost started crying and picked up her bag wanting to leave, telling me that I do not understand Thailand. I said well I know how Thailand is but really I do not understand it. I said it sounds like your mom just needs a boyfriend. She said that she has one already but still will not let her or her older sister have boyfriends, instead insisting that they stay home and take care of her.
Next thing I know she is sucking my dick. I could not pay her to quit. Great GFE. She woke me up at 7 am saying she had to go home and get ready for work. I told her I would take her home since she lives literally like 3 minutes away. Get to her house and she opens the gate with a remote control. They have 3 cars and 2 motorbikes and seem to be pretty well off. So why is she freelancing?[/QUOTE]I agree with the young lady, you do not understand Thailand.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2797453]FYI, your PMs are either full or disabled.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing full from all the guys on here with 0 posts or only posts asking for information seeking special gems from Sir L.
Had a guy with 0 posts last week ask me for my SA connections. When did I ever post I did even TF, let alone SA?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2797434]Next thing I know she is sucking my dick. I could not pay her to quit. Great GFE. She woke me up at 7 am saying she had to go home and get ready for work. I told her I would take her home since she lives literally like 3 minutes away. Get to her house and she opens the gate with a remote control. They have 3 cars and 2 motorbikes and seem to be pretty well off. So why is she freelancing?
As soon as I got home she sent me a message asking about my bed. I tell her I know it is the most comfortable bed in Pattaya and that I made it myself. You can come again to sleep in it anytime you want. She said that she would like to come back tonight if she finishes work early. 1000 baht well spent.[/QUOTE]Most of your encounters with these Pattaya chics sound the same if I'm not wrong.
Girl is not willing to come.
Then she wants to come at her price.
You say no I live there and give your price.
Girl says no, after 1 minute she says yes and agrees to everything.
Girl arrive to the room and appears emotionally unstable and talk a lot of nonsense, at one point she's even about to leave the place before any action happened.
Next things that happens is Girl has your dick or your ass in her mouth and she doesn't want to quit because she realised she loves it too much.
Last thing is she's impressed with your perfect mattress and wants to get one for herself but doesn't know how to do.
Girl is even not in need for money because she has a work or is already rich, and yet she wants money for being fucked.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2797518]You just reminded me of my ex-wife pushing my head down to eat her pussy that smelled and tasted like the bottom of an outhouse. Very few women have enough baht to pay me to repeat that nightmare.[/QUOTE]I must be very lucky, no stinky pussy for a long time.
[QUOTE=IHeartIpa;2797555]I agree with the young lady, you do not understand Thailand.[/QUOTE]Are you claiming to understand Thailand? If so, please explain why mfs are still riding around with masks and no helmet. Covid killed 30 people in the last 3 years. 30 people died on motorbikes in the last 30 hours.
My niece's mom is complaining that she does not have money because it cost 7,000 baht taxi round trip for her mom and my niece to come to Pattaya for 1 day. I asked her why they could not ride the bus for 130 like everybody else. I mean if you are going to throw it away like that then there is no wonder you do not have any.
I walked around Soi Boomerang last night. It's beginning to look like a miniature Soi LK, with gogos. Not so much foot traffic, though.
As High Season wanes, the marginal areas will be hit first. So, Soi Boomerang will probably suffer Empty Bar Syndrome before Soi LK.
This is the kind of message that Thai ladies send to solicit free money from foreigners. The story:
She worked bar, then went back to Surin to live with her Thai boyfriend. Now she says she broke up with him, and wants to come to Pattaya, but has no money. Please send money.
The reality is that she sends the same message to 1000's of foreigners, via Facebook. She gets a bunch of money, and buys gold for her Thai boyfriend.
Repeats once a month.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2797625]Are you claiming to understand Thailand? If so, please explain why mfs are still riding around with masks and no helmet. Covid killed 30 people in the last 3 years. 30 people died on motorbikes in the last 30 hours.
.[/QUOTE]The education system in Thailand is awful. It teaches obedience, buddhism, group think, etc. It does not teach self preservation or logic. Literally every problem in Thailand can be traced back to education.
Alot of locals never wore a helmet and won't start, the mask thing for some is because they don't want other local thais to think they don't wear a mask. They care more about what the old lady who has the shop on the corner thinks than they do about preserving their own health.
I for one can understand wearing a mask in traffic to avoid smog inhalation, its actually the most useful place to wear one! Not why they do it though 555.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2797580]I'm guessing full from all the guys on here with 0 posts or only posts asking for information seeking special gems from Sir L.
Had a guy with 0 posts last week ask me for my SA connections. When did I ever post I did even TF, let alone SA?[/QUOTE]Given his popular posts, maybe. But that normally results in a mailbox full error. I forget exactly but this message was something about being turned off or disabled. Strange as I have chatted with Lancelot before about Philippines and LOS. No, I wasn't asking for digits. LOL.
Cheers. G.
Amazingly, the ladies have forgotten that Low Season is coming. They just assume that customers will be coming indefinitely. No concept that Pattaya business is seasonal.
One lady wants to go to Koh Samui for a few days. She has a customer every day now, so her opportunity cost to stop work is very high. So, I tell her we go during Low Season, when she doesn't have so many customers. She had no clue what I meant.
This is true for ladies who have worked in Pattaya for many years, no memory at all.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2797597]Most of your encounters with these Pattaya chics sound the same if I'm not wrong.[/QUOTE]I would think most people's encounters with Pattaya chicks are generally the same. Are your experiences varying widely from chick to chick?
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2797597]Girl is not willing to come. Then she wants to come at her price. You say no I live there and give your price. Girl says no, after 1 minute she says yes and agrees to everything.[/QUOTE]You mean there is a negotiation? Of course. Works the same when I am at the market or on the street buying something or when I take a taxi from the airport. You do not negotiate products or services when possible?
I went to Tukcom the other day to buy a set of headphones that my buddy has. He told me to go to the lady he always goes to. He said he paid 700 baht for them. I go to the lady and she puts 990 in the calculator. I said no way 500. Then she puts 700 in the calculator. I said can not. 600. She says ok and puts them in a bag. Pretty much how things work around here.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2797597]Girl arrive to the room and appears emotionally unstable and talk a lot of nonsense, at one point she's even about to leave the place before any action happened.[/QUOTE]No. Only ever had 2 chicks I would call emotionally unstable come to my room. 11 years ago there was one from Lucifer that karate kicked my TV. And maybe 6 years ago there was another that I met in Flexx and when we got home (already daylight) she was really scared to death and trembling and praying to Buddha so I told her to leave. You would have thought I kidnapped her at gunpoint or something. If she was doing all that just from literally walking in the door, I wanted no other parts of what she had to offer.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2797597]Last thing is she's impressed with your perfect mattress and wants to get one for herself but doesn't know how to do.[/QUOTE]Yep. It is not a common thing around here. I brought it from the States. I have shown it before. It is just an egg crate foam that goes on top of the mattress. Before I had this one I had brought a down mattress topper from the States not realizing I was allergic to down. Waking up with itchy eyes and a stopped up nose every morning.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2797597]Girl is even not in need for money because she has a work or is already rich, and yet she wants money for being fucked.[/QUOTE]Nope. Only ever had a couple of chicks like that over the years. They are way few and far between.
Last night went to see a Thai Friendly chick on the dark side. She is in town visiting her friend who is moving to the States to her husband tomorrow. We are just driving around after midnight and she wants to stop at a Thai spot with all the foliage and shit that looks like it has plenty of mosquitos. Good thing I brought my spray.
I only wanted soda water. She wanted SangSom and got one of those small bottles. On one round when the waiter came to pour the drinks he mistakenly put SangSom in my glass. Oh well. Might as well fill it up now. She was not doing a good job of drinking the bottle anyway.
She told me that she just broke up with her boyfriend of 7 years in January. He lives in Texas. She has not seen him in 7 years but remained faithful to him. Every year he would tell her that he would be back to Thailand next year but never came back. I said girl you must be a damn fool to wait on somebody that long.
A farang comes into the place with 2 chicks, obviously from a bar. I do not know if he paid a bar fine for them or they just came with him after their bar closed. Soon a third chick comes in and wants to take the chicks away from him saying they are just going to get some noodles and come right back. Me and the girl I am with are laughing and I say if those chicks leave they are not coming back. Besides, the place we were at has food. Reluctantly, he lets them go and they disappeared into the wind.
1:40 am rolls around and the guy asks what time the place closes. They tell him that they closed at 1 am. He still begs for another beer which they give him. Our bill comes to 320 which the chick I am with insists on paying, but I insisted more saying she is visiting from out of town. I dropped her back off and went home. She started sending messages on how she wants to take me to eat today since I paid for the drinks. That is what REAL Thai chicks apart from the Pattaya hooker brand are like.
Sometimes well laid plans go bust, yet things go unexpectly leading to even better outcome than the original plans. This is Pattaya after all.
Had agreed a date with my regular to iBar on Friday night, and going LT from there. She unexpectedly cancelled right after I walking in. Okay go with the flow tonight I just thought. Walking in, bumbed to a lady I first met sometime in 2015 and was kind of a regular until about 2017 when she settled & married a farang who still lives & works at home country and only visits here some 2-4 times a year. I actually know the guy surficially as have once been in same table and chatted a bit in Lucifer before covid, without he having any idea I know his wife inside out. She was out for the night to party with a friend (a freelancer in Pattaya). He fully supports her so that she don't need to work; home, car, money to travel around to kill her time, nothing exceptional but nice good life. Seen her few times over lunch or dinner over the past few years, last one in Oct last year, but she always declined my proposals to come by for old times sake. She is good girl now and do not go with other guys has been the consistent answer. I recall she is at her late 30's now, however slim, fit, flat stomach (no babies) and good fair skin, could easily sell herself as 30 year old to an unsuspecting tourist. Not the prettiest but ok, nice ass in a small body.
Against all my expectations, this time ended up being different. Discussed this and that over two drinks in iBar, during which she was touching me differently than before, kind of hinting something thinking about it in retrospect. After finish the drinks she said she want to go see my new home (she never been in my current place) – I say ok, no problem, 15 min later off we went. I thought she would go home after just coming by. Reaching my home sitting down, she told her hb has not been here since 4 mo, and she is starving for sex. After all these years being a good girl, she has decided that she has to allow herself some freedom when he out for extended periods, even if the hb has declined her request for such. Okay sure I can help don't worry. Without going to details, we had extremely good long sessions for over an hour each, both before and after sleeping. Did not recall her being that good years before I went with her. Without giving any details, she was saying her hb does not do like that, only 10 min at night, finish and go sleep under separate blankets, she would like sleep body to body. Best treatment of her life she said – yes I ate her extensively and made come orally first both times which presumably the hb does not do at all. Topped with 2nd come both times by dick. Poor girl, totally wasted being with that guy. Went for breakfast together to a nearby place, after which rode her to her car in Watchai.
Heartful thank you line messages later that day after she reached home. Want to see again later she wrote. The next day complaining she is sore down there – just replied for sure if you only open it for access every 4 mo, it grows closed. Either use a toy or come by regularly to hone the hole I said. Expect her to become a regular again (unless she gets moral hangover and decides to stop which I would not be surprised of either) – another one to the set of few other regulars with a BF / hb back home.
Pattaya at it's finest.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2797625]Are you claiming to understand Thailand? If so, please explain why mfs are still riding around with masks and no helmet. Covid killed 30 people in the last 3 years. 30 people died on motorbikes in the last 30 hours.
My niece's mom is complaining that she does not have money because it cost 7,000 baht taxi round trip for her mom and my niece to come to Pattaya for 1 day. I asked her why they could not ride the bus for 130 like everybody else. I mean if you are going to throw it away like that then there is no wonder you do not have any.[/QUOTE]Every now an then when talking / bitching about some Thai shit you hear some farang to say 'You don't understand Thailand! Often some smartass who has been here long and is semi-localised mentally. I always say that 'I am happy to know that I understand that I can not understand Thailand, and had I reached the state I understand Thailand, I hope someone takes me out of here immediately as it means I am fucked up'.
As you say, you can know Thailand, and understand that you do not understand it and still be sane. But understanding Thailand and being sane simply don't mix.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2797518]You just reminded me of my ex-wife pushing my head down to eat her pussy that smelled and tasted like the bottom of an outhouse. Very few women have enough baht to pay me to repeat that nightmare.[/QUOTE]Apologies, was not my intent. Although thought someone might think my post as disgusting.
Such a interesting forum with mongers promoting their sexcapades, yet no photos of the girls they screw. Sad, let us also see what we miss while you guys are at play. Correct!
[QUOTE=SuperLove;2797905]Such a interesting forum with mongers promoting their sexcapades, yet no photos of the girls they screw. Sad, let us also see what we miss while you guys are at play. Correct![/QUOTE]Here you go.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;2797905]Such a interesting forum with mongers promoting their sexcapades, yet no photos of the girls they screw. Sad, let us also see what we miss while you guys are at play. Correct![/QUOTE]I haven't posted photos of women in ANY forum for years. Way too many white nights can't wait to share them with the girls. Its sad but it is just the way it is anymore.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;2797905]No photos (:[/QUOTE]No photos?! We can't even get certain VOLUME posters to even provide the bar name where they got the girl from, prices, or girl's names! Those type of posts serve no purpose to anyone trying to gather information on a sex forum.
Like HardDrive I wouldn't post photos on here either unless you had the girl's permission or the photos were on a public forum like their bar's Facebook page.
Exactly my thoughts.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;2797905]Such a interesting forum with mongers promoting their sexcapades, yet no photos of the girls they screw. Sad, let us also see what we miss while you guys are at play. Correct![/QUOTE]
Does anyone have any recent updates on the club scene please, can't see much in recent posts?
Are the majority of girls in Myst, Republic, Ibar / Insomnia, 808 etc still accepting between 1-1. 5 k for ST?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;2797905]Such a interesting forum with mongers promoting their sexcapades, yet no photos of the girls they screw. Sad, let us also see what we miss while you guys are at play. Correct![/QUOTE]Once upon a time, and it was not the only time something like this happened, I tried to be oh so helpful to a fellow poster on another site who posted a sob story about not being able to find a particularly good provider of a particular kind of service in a particular kind of venue in a particular red light district.
I posted the specifics you and others have mentioned here. Although the name the lady used in her place of work was not her real name. But that scarcely matters to the determined hunter.
It turned out that poor old dude who needed our help with such specifics for satisfaction was using multiple nics on that and other websites with multiple pleas for more specific identities and locations because he was the disgruntled farang husband of a lady he knew worked in those kind of venues but had been assured by her she was only the cashier, sometimes hostess but never ever went with customers for sex.
Well, he got the specifics he needed from me and another poster or two.
So he proceeded to threaten our lives on PMs, said he busted her on it, beat her up, got her to give up her Line contacts to him, had our photos from it, would hunt us down and we'd better watch our backs from now on. He took her to court and got full custody of their kid and on and on.
I know all that happened about the kid and everything because the lady in question told everyone at her venue and everyone she knew, all her co-workers and long time friends in other venues what we oh so helpful punters had done. She quit the business entirely and we got dagger looks of hatred for how we broke up her family and made her life hell whenever we passed by those venues for months if not years afterwards until everyone around during that flare up had moved on.
An extreme case? Perhaps. But we will never know what kind of shit can and does sometimes befall these girls in their private lives when we reveal exactly who, where and what.
A heavily photoshopped pic and fake name on a website is one thing. There is still room for deniability about what she does or will not do with customers. But once we have also reported exactly what we did, often something she has never done for her boyfriend or husband LOL, along with more accurate pics, names, badge numbers, times and dates, her buffer of deniability evaporates.
And, really, how often has any of us asked and gotten permission from a girl to post undoctored personal pics of her, perhaps in action or naked, on a public site like ISG in all its implications? I'm not talking about asking if we can take a photo to show our friends.
To this day I cringe when I see posts, especially from posters with few previous posts, asking for specifics like names, badge numbers, usual work days and times for the girls we have described fucking and blowing us. A White Knight just out to save the girl from this job and fuck up our action with her is not the worst thing that can come of us providing that info.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2797518]You just reminded me of my ex-wife pushing my head down to eat her pussy that smelled and tasted like the bottom of an outhouse. Very few women have enough baht to pay me to repeat that nightmare.[/QUOTE]I feel your pain. It's amazing how some women deny how they can be so unhygienic down there. We're talking hot-summer garbage truck water, it's that bad!. LOL!.
[QUOTE=MeatMan;2798124]I feel your pain. It's amazing how some women deny how they can be so unhygienic down there. We're talking hot-summer garbage truck water, it's that bad!. LOL!.[/QUOTE]Where are you guys getting these chicks from? I never have those kind of problems and it seems some guys are having it all the time.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2798121]Once upon a time, and it was not the only time something like this happened, I tried to be oh so helpful to a fellow poster on another site who posted a sob story about not being able to find a particularly good provider of a particular kind of service in a particular kind of venue in a particular red light district.
I posted the specifics you and others have mentioned here. Although the name the lady used in her place of work was not her real name. But that scarcely matters to the determined hunter.
It turned out that poor old dude who needed our help with such specifics for satisfaction was using multiple nics on that and other websites with multiple pleas for more specific identities and locations because he was the disgruntled farang husband of a lady he knew worked in those kind of venues but had been assured by her she was only the cashier, sometimes hostess but never ever went with customers for sex.
Well, he got the specifics he needed from me and another poster or two.
So he proceeded to threaten our lives on PMs, said he busted her on it, beat her up, got her to give up her Line contacts to him, had our photos from it, would hunt us down and we'd better watch our backs from now on. He took her to court and got full custody of their kid and on and on.
I know all that happened about the kid and everything because the lady in question told everyone at her venue and everyone she knew, all her co-workers and long time friends in other venues what we oh so helpful punters had done. She quit the business entirely and we got dagger looks of hatred for how we broke up her family and made her life hell whenever we passed by those venues for months if not years afterwards until everyone around during that flare up had moved on.
An extreme case? Perhaps. But we will never know what kind of shit can and does sometimes befall these girls in their private lives when we reveal exactly who, where and what.
A heavily photoshopped pic and fake name on a website is one thing. There is still room for deniability about what she does or will not do with customers. But once we have also reported exactly what we did, often something she has never done for her boyfriend or husband LOL, along with more accurate pics, names, badge numbers, times and dates, her buffer of deniability evaporates.
And, really, how often has any of us asked and gotten permission from a girl to post undoctored personal pics of her, perhaps in action or naked, on a public site like ISG in all its implications? I'm not talking about asking if we can take a photo to show our friends.
To this day I cringe when I see posts, especially from posters with few previous posts, asking for specifics like names, badge numbers, usual work days and times for the girls we have described fucking and blowing us. A White Knight just out to save the girl from this job and fuck up our action with her is not the worst thing that can come of us providing that info.[/QUOTE]It's pointless to barfine a lady based on someone's online recommendation. Performance by a lady may vary wildly, based on customer, her mood, or money.
I ignore anyone who asks for recommendations.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2798024]No photos?! We can't even get certain VOLUME posters to even provide the bar name where they got the girl from, prices, or girl's names! Those type of posts serve no purpose to anyone trying to gather information on a sex forum.
Like HardDrive I wouldn't post photos on here either unless you had the girl's permission or the photos were on a public forum like their bar's Facebook page.[/QUOTE]I typically go to Maggie Mays or Catflaps.
A bit of history? Just stirring the pot for thoughts?
A long long time ago there use to be lots of pictures even before the suggested Photo Thread as soon as it was created no one actually posted on the Thread except for one guy it was like his own.
In general, once a new thread is created it is as if it was done to rid the individual of no man's land. I could suggest lots of stuff for lots of people but it isn't my site nor my position to do so.
Anyone can debate on this site whether it is proper or not, it has been done as so many things look, numeric rating, prices, there is a long list. When it comes to pictures when they were plenty those who posted said " come on how many Thais are going to come on to ISG " " if they have no problem with their picture being taken it should be okay On ISG " I can understand today with FB, Line, and other sites one wrong click you are asking for problems?
Due to constant WOK even on this site pictures became less and less due to all the rants and WOK, about pictures being posted even when the faces were blurred as time went on fewer and fewer guys got their wishes! I remember not too long ago a poster Monkey Paw? Was posting pictures with faces blurred out the rage about them being posted, comments about the room, sheets, and stupid comments coming from grown men unrelated to the picture even so today what you see or don't see is our own doing!
For me, I always had an excuse in the old days I didn't have a smartphone, today I got one but so far behind times, I don't know where to go to know how to post it even if I had one. My phone is like an open book to my family I don't keep pictures or contacts to be safe.
Then you always got posters who want pictures but never have posted one themselves or written a report until they want something. There will always be guys who contribute nothing but want direct reports or pictures and if they don't get it when they log on and read Wok and Rant " unrelated " then go on about it stretching the conversation to the point they are actually the problem not practicing what they preach. I suggest when members log on take a good look at the number of topics to take a good look at the dates if one puts on their thinking caps will know why there are so many dead threads.
If you live in Pattaya, you will be hit up by the ladies for money a lot. Most ladies who work bar support a Significant Other who drains their money. Which often requires them to hit up customers or other bargirls for cash.
I just got sent a photo of a smashed moto by a lady. She said she needed money because her son had an accident last night.
The problem is that she previously told me son had a moto accident last year, and couldn't walk.
So, she forgot her story. Probably, her husband needs money for something.
I am sorry and feel bad for the woman. Not your fault, the idea to ask photos was to see what kind of girls the mongers are raving about, at 1 k ST and so on. I am silent reader of Thailand forum for years and make frequent trips myself. The reason why I myself don't post is that my friends insist they accompany me on such trips, if I go with them chances of pick up and fucking reduces drastically. I am best when playing solo as I am not a team player. Sometimes its ok to crop the face or blur it so at least the body shape is visible. Do you get me! Idea of the forum is to share stories and girls, both.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2798121]Once upon a time, and it was not the only time something like this happened, I tried to be oh so helpful to a fellow poster on another site who posted a sob story about not being able to find a particularly good provider of a particular kind of service in a particular kind of venue in a particular red light district.
I posted the specifics you and others have mentioned here. Although the name the lady used in her place of work was not her real name. But that scarcely matters to the determined hunter.
It turned out that poor old dude who needed our help with such specifics for satisfaction was using multiple nics on that and other websites with multiple pleas for more specific identities and locations because he was the disgruntled farang husband of a lady he knew worked in those kind of venues but had been assured by her she was only the cashier, sometimes hostess but never ever went with customers for sex.
Well, he got the specifics he needed from me and another poster or two.
So he proceeded to threaten our lives on PMs, said he busted her on it, beat her up, got her to give up her Line contacts to him, had our photos from it, would hunt us down and we'd better watch our backs from now on. He took her to court and got full custody of their kid and on and on.
I know all that happened about the kid and everything because the lady in question told everyone at her venue and everyone she knew, all her co-workers and long time friends in other venues what we oh so helpful punters had done. She quit the business entirely and we got dagger looks of hatred for how we broke up her family and made her life hell whenever we passed by those venues for months if not years afterwards until everyone around during that flare up had moved on.
An extreme case? Perhaps. But we will never know what kind of shit can and does sometimes befall these girls in their private lives when we reveal exactly who, where and what.
A heavily photoshopped pic and fake name on a website is one thing. There is still room for deniability about what she does or will not do with customers. But once we have also reported exactly what we did, often something she has never done for her boyfriend or husband LOL, along with more accurate pics, names, badge numbers, times and dates, her buffer of deniability evaporates.
And, really, how often has any of us asked and gotten permission from a girl to post undoctored personal pics of her, perhaps in action or naked, on a public site like ISG in all its implications? I'm not talking about asking if we can take a photo to show our friends.
To this day I cringe when I see posts, especially from posters with few previous posts, asking for specifics like names, badge numbers, usual work days and times for the girls we have described fucking and blowing us. A White Knight just out to save the girl from this job and fuck up our action with her is not the worst thing that can come of us providing that info.[/QUOTE]
Just hide the face and their nos. Share girls also with the stories otherwise you are just scoring a 1/10 or 2/10 for 1 k ST. No kudos then.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2798024]No photos?! We can't even get certain VOLUME posters to even provide the bar name where they got the girl from, prices, or girl's names! Those type of posts serve no purpose to anyone trying to gather information on a sex forum.
Like HardDrive I wouldn't post photos on here either unless you had the girl's permission or the photos were on a public forum like their bar's Facebook page.[/QUOTE]
Ill pick any in the last row, if lucky perhaps all together.
Keep them going MR E.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2797974]Here you go.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2798031]Does anyone have any recent updates on the club scene please, can't see much in recent posts?
Are the majority of girls in Myst, Republic, Ibar / Insomnia, 808 etc still accepting between 1-1. 5 k for ST?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes it's still the same.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;2797905]Such an interesting forum with mongers promoting their sexcapades, yet no photos of the girls they screw. Sad, let us also see what we miss while you guys are at play. Correct![/QUOTE]Years ago I got interested in Thailand because of pictures posted, but it wasn't the hooker pictures, it was the candid pictures taken in the streets of Bangkok. Whoever did that years ago has long ago disappeared.
I don't see the point of posting specific names or pictures of hookers, there are so many that your chances of finding that specific girl are slim to none. If I have multiple great sessions at a massage place, go go, or with a TF girl, I will sometimes send pictures, names, and make specific recommendations via backchannel. If I ever do post a picture of one of my girls, I will explicitly have her advanced permission to post on the internet before it is posted.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2798121]
To this day I cringe when I see posts, especially from posters with few previous posts, asking for specifics like names, badge numbers, usual work days and times for the girls we have described fucking and blowing us. A White Knight just out to save the girl from this job and fuck up our action with her is not the worst thing that can come of us providing that info.[/QUOTE]To a random tourist taking random girls from random places for one time deals, and leaving the country for months after the trip after a good week or two, this not much of an issue.
But for guys like me who lived here long, plan to live even longer, and mostly rely on regulars many of whom have sponsors / bfs / husband, better be very careful on what you post on public domain as it could well hurt the girls (many of whom are kind of like friends with me) - or in the worst case cause trouble for yourself as you wrote if you are not very careful of not letting your pic or any of your non-related posts to reveal who you are. Not difficult to calculate 1+1 from a pic and few posts. Over the years I have seen several pics (on another site) of freelance girls that go or have gone with me, either guys just sharing their experiences or asking for comments / feedback of them (which in some case for sure their partners in disguise trying to validate whether they are being conned). You could easily, without any intent, have your regular burnt if too much detail esp pics are posted.
Also had a personal temptation couple of years ago to burn a girl who without any reason did no behave properly for me and who I knew had BF whose contact I had, using pics and posts of other guys in a forum, but at the end just let it be and moved on. But not all guys move on without paying back.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2798121]It turned out that poor old dude who needed our help was the disgruntled farang husband of a lady he knew worked in those kind of venues but had been assured by her she was only the cashier, sometimes hostess but never ever went with customers for sex.[/QUOTE]Begs the question, if she had a husband, what was she doing selling sex?
The lineup at Catflaps a couple of days ago. I am told 10 more ladies are there now.
Of these ladies, one is a sweetheart.
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2798177]or in the worst case cause trouble for yourself as you wrote if you are not very careful of not letting your pic or any of your non-related posts to reveal who you are. Not difficult to calculate 1+1 from a pic and few posts. [/QUOTE]I learned that the hard way. In November I posted in the Peru thread about a chick I had messed with for like 10 years. She was just a normal chick. She had gotten married and moved to Europe, but we would still fool around when she went back home. I posted a blurred out picture. Another board member from that thread figured out who it was and ratted on me. She gave me the 3rd degree and admitted that she actually used to be a hooker (guess that is how the other guy knew her) in that time period but never charged me. And she was hot as fire about me posting about her on this site. Not sure what the other guy gained by telling her. As I posted in that thread it hurt her more than it hurt me.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2797831]I would think most people's encounters with Pattaya chicks are generally the same. Are your experiences varying widely from chick to chick?[/QUOTE]Nowadays they are all pretty much the same because I prefer only meeting girls from Bangkok oilies or girls from bars (like the ones on soi6) and I go through my own routine but ther was a time in the past, I was exclusively taking freelancers from disco.
And the experience was different from one girl to another, I met all kind of girls, the shy one, the crazy one, the bullshit one the gold digger, the one that pretend to not be a prositute.
The only thing they had in common was that they wanted to be rewarded and sex was not good with them.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2797831]You do not negotiate products or services when possible?[/QUOTE]I still do it a little bit, but I tend to value more my time than my money nowadays and I try to not be as stinky as I was before.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2797831]No. Only ever had 2 chicks I would call emotionally unstable come to my room. 11 years ago there was one from Lucifer that karate kicked my TV. And maybe 6 years ago there was another that I met in Flexx and when we got home (already daylight) she was really scared to death and trembling and praying to Buddha so I told her to leave. You would have thought I kidnapped her at gunpoint or something. If she was doing all that just from literally walking in the door, I wanted no other parts of what she had to offer.
Nope. Only ever had a couple of chicks like that over the years. They are way few and far between.[/QUOTE]Sorry these two points sounded familiar to me, I thought I read it more than once before, and I didn't go and check before posting.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2798184]The lineup at Catflaps a couple of days ago. I am told 10 more ladies are there now.
Of these ladies, one is a sweetheart.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the photo, it saves me a trip to Catflaps as there's not a single lady in that photo that I would go with.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2798266]Thank you for the photo, it saves me a trip to Catflaps as there's not a single lady in that photo that I would go with.[/QUOTE]They look pretty heavy.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2798181]Begs the question, if she had a husband, what was she doing selling sex?[/QUOTE]I never asked her directly. But she did seem to be having a good time at the venue.
I assume her main reason for doing it was for extra money beyond what she made as a cashier and hostess that her husband would not know about, followed by being bored at home, for the fun of it and to hang out with her long time friends at the venue.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2798155]If you live in Pattaya, you will be hit up by the ladies for money a lot. [/QUOTE] Stop wearing your "Jai Dee" T-shirt!
Does this shit happen to the rest of you guys "often", using Explorer's words? Mr. E, ET, Goats, HP, LBM, and others who have lived in Thailand for a long time? It can't be only me that this stuff only happens to once every 3+ years.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;2797905]Such a interesting forum with mongers promoting their sexcapades, yet no photos of the girls they screw. Sad, let us also see what we miss while you guys are at play. Correct![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JizzyB;2798027]Exactly my thoughts.[/QUOTE]I know some people here like to be spoon-fed but it's actually very easy to find photos of girls. Almost every gogo bar on Walking Street and Soi LK Metro posts daily updates on social media with latest photos of their girls, as do most of the bars on Soi 6. It's surprising the things you can find online if you're willing to make at least a modicum of effort.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2798427]Stop wearing your "Jai Dee" T-shirt!
Does this shit happen to the rest of you guys "often", using Explorer's words? Mr. E, ET, Goats, HP, LBM, and others who have lived in Thailand for a long time? It can't be only me that this stuff only happens to once every 3+ years.[/QUOTE]Thousands of idiots are sending money to ladies in Pattaya. Sometimes, you will see ladies on Facebook with 5,000 friends. Because the ladies are working their friends list for cash.
This is one of the reasons that many bargirls won't go with customers, they don't need the money.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2798331]I never asked her directly. But she did seem to be having a good time at the venue.
I assume her main reason for doing it was for extra money beyond what she made as a cashier and hostess that her husband would not know about, followed by being bored at home, for the fun of it and to hang out with her long time friends at the venue.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Let me go invest in a wife that I am not going to be with. Why do guys insist on getting married? Idle mind is the devil's workshop.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2798427]Stop wearing your "Jai Dee" T-shirt!
Does this shit happen to the rest of you guys "often", using Explorer's words? Mr. E, ET, Goats, HP, LBM, and others who have lived in Thailand for a long time? It can't be only me that this stuff only happens to once every 3+ years.[/QUOTE]Never ever happened to me. Only time a chick even asked me to borrow some money was a friend that got knocked up by an American dude. She wanted to move to a bigger place before her son was born. I told her she had to come with some collateral if I was going to be loaning out money. The kid is like 5 now to show you how long ago that was. I always think me and Ex are in 2 different Pattayas.
Now Dominicans will beg like there is no tomorrow. Give me, give me, give me. But I have never had a Thai ask me for shit. Even if I ask a Thai chick that lives out of town to come see me, she will not ask for money if she does not have any. She will say that she will come when she gets money.
And all the guys that send money it is always their idea, not the chicks. Even in the facebook groups guys sometimes ask how much do I need to give my girlfriend. Surprisingly the best answer is not even a common answer when that is asked: "If you have to give her money, then she is not your girlfriend. "
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2798427]Stop wearing your "Jai Dee" T-shirt!
Does this shit happen to the rest of you guys "often", using Explorer's words? Mr. E, ET, Goats, HP, LBM, and others who have lived in Thailand for a long time? It can't be only me that this stuff only happens to once every 3+ years.[/QUOTE]In Bangkok, some regular girls as well as P4 P girls do hit me up for money often. But in wildly varying degrees.
Some, almost never. Among P4 P girls who live and work here, it seems the notably better than average lookers who keep their pussy shaved, provide romantic DFK, BBBJ, BBFSCIP and finish a BBBJCIM fully and completely with a proper Swallow are never, I mean never short on cash when rent is due. And don't pretend to be.
By contrast, those who are lazy about some or damn near all of those things are hurting for cash all the time and might bring it up almost weekly. LOL.
No surprise and no joke. I have taken notes on this pattern over the years.
I can be a soft touch for some of the slackers for various reasons. Hard to say why sometimes. But not by much. We're talking less than 500 baht on occasion.
However, generally my internal calculator sends me a notification when the cost to value for me begins to reach an unacceptable level and I cut it off. Bearing in mind I very often start out with a deal that beats the going rate for girls of the level I am attracted to and including a level of service I don't think many are getting even at the going rate.
Overall, I rarely feel I am getting ripped off on the money part, especially factoring in my age, the girls' ages, their level of attractiveness and what they do for me.
With regular Thai girls I date, most often their occasional ask has a different meaning. Not just that they are 1000 baht short on rent, although that is suggested sometimes. Or that their water buffalo needs emergency surgery.
It is often for some ridiculously small amount that I know they either have or will get paid in their regular job soon. And it often comes after I have not seen them for a while.
150 baht. 100 baht. I swear I have been asked if I can help them with 50 baht. Accompanied by "When can we meet?" Sometimes from long term P4P girls I have not seen for a while too.
So in a culture where Love = Money and Money = Love, as it definitely is quite a bit in Thailand, I choose to see those kind of money requests as coded Do You Still Care About Me, Do I Still Have a Connection With You, Do You Still Love Me messages.
Or they could be sending requests for 50 baht to 100 guys in their Line contacts in hopes of winding up with at least 400 - 500 baht income for the week. LOL.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2798266]Thank you for the photo, it saves me a trip to Catflaps as there's not a single lady in that photo that I would go with.[/QUOTE]There is one good one in the photo if you look hard enough. I barfined her on her first day. She was not particularly happy about it, so I had a second lady who helped me in bed.
In the bar, the lady was happy, happy, happy, but once outside the door, her demeanor changed completely. Plus, she kept texting her boyfriend.
So, she is cute, but not fun.
I could go with 2 before drinks and with 5 after. Low quality but still doable hahahah.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2798184]The lineup at Catflaps a couple of days ago. I am told 10 more ladies are there now.
Of these ladies, one is a sweetheart.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2798486]: "If you have to give her money, then she is not your girlfriend. "[/QUOTE]Yes and no. IF you meet a p4 p girl who you take out of the bar life and give her an allowance then maybe.
But if tomorrow you meet this super cute girl working at 7-11, get her number, then start dating her. She makes 10000 baht a month working full time at 7-11. In my mind I'd rather her take care of me and help me than she work at 7-11. To me its worth it, since her taking care of me and my house will free up my time to make much more than the 10000 baht I give her.
Also, [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5hu7o2Q62k[/URL] women are the same everywhere.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2798504]There is one good one in the photo if you look hard enough. I barfined her on her first day. She was not particularly happy about it, so I had a second lady who helped me in bed.
In the bar, the lady was happy, happy, happy, but once outside the door, her demeanor changed completely. Plus, she kept texting her boyfriend.
So, she is cute, but not fun.[/QUOTE]I see 2 that I think are cute at least pretty enough for my standards but they're both larger than what I prefer.
[QUOTE=IHeartIpa;2798558]Yes and no. IF you meet a p4 p girl who you take out of the bar life and give her an allowance then maybe.
But if tomorrow you meet this super cute girl working at 7-11, get her number, then start dating her. She makes 10000 baht a month working full time at 7-11. In my mind I'd rather her take care of me and help me than she work at 7-11. To me its worth it, since her taking care of me and my house will free up my time to make much more than the 10000 baht I give her.
Also, [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5hu7o2Q62k[/URL] women are the same everywhere.[/QUOTE]That's not the way it works between Thai men and women.
Only customers had cash to ladies in Thailand.
Last week, I had a lady who was a ball ripper at my condo. She went home a couple of days later, so I didn't get a follow-up.
I was told she was back in town, went to her bar, but she hasn't started yet. So, I barfined another lady. This one was very enthusiastic, up for anything. And, a bit of a ball ripper herself, although more of a ball sucker. Has a nice rack, but too chunky for most here.
As happens with ladies who haven't hooked up with a boyfriend yet, and don't have many customers, she was dripping wet horny.
Not much English, but could blurt out "oh my God" under pressure.
She is passed out in the bedroom now, too much tequila.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2798581]I see 2 that I think are cute at least pretty enough for my standards but they're both larger than what I prefer.[/QUOTE]Wait another day, and more ladies show up.
That's true of any bar. So a report from yesterday about a bar may not be valid tomorrow.
Pattaya Updates.
High season shows no signs of easing with throngs of tourists on walking street and beach road, especially after 8 pm.
Street performers, travel groups and placard people make maneuvering a nightmare.
Pier side Russian club has hired a few girls to dance to street view. Trying to give a non working girl vibe.
Huge influx of 25 new Uzbek beach road near their usual spot. After 8 pm.
Close by a deaf lady selling snacks. With a deaf label hanging above.
Right next to them has been a surge in laad boi. At least 25 well made up. After 8 pm.
Strangely I have seen Indians travel group behind flag.
And also huge Russian travel group (Alimi travels?) behind flag.
Chinese travel group went into panda gogo and spent some time there.
Pattaya music festival today and tomorrow with only one stage near holiday inn.
Lots of road breakage and construction on beach road by Soi 6.
Indian holi festival last Saturday on beach road.
Hosted by Hari Rama Hari Krishna. Very generous group.
Free serving of five dishes (including pad Thai) ,deserts and snacks and water.
Six hour event with singers and Dj.
Nice to see many people of all nationalities partaking in free food, throwing colors and dancing crazy. Without any biases.
At the end of the event, the sponsors threw loads of 20 baht bills into the crowd. Some fell on me.
Also. Spectators were donating 1000 baht bills to the organization.
The crowd so huge that a Thai kid got separated from his parents and led to him brought up on the stage for announcement.
Later I used the baht bills from the event to get a beach mat from a beach dweller. And she said the organizers gave a few of these ladies 1000 baht!
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2798853]Pattaya Updates.
Huge influx of 25 new Uzbek beach road near their usual spot. After 8 pm.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update.
Any lookers amongst the Uzbekhs?
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2798853]Huge influx of 25 new Uzbek beach road near their usual spot. After 8 pm.
[/QUOTE]Meh, call me when the Krygyz show up. Those ladies are AI art beautiful.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2797597]Most of your encounters with these Pattaya chics sound the same if I'm not wrong.
Girl is not willing to come.
Then she wants to come at her price.
You say no I live there and give your price.
Girl says no, after 1 minute she says yes and agrees to everything.
Girl arrive to the room and appears emotionally unstable and talk a lot of nonsense, at one point she's even about to leave the place before any action happened.
Next things that happens is Girl has your dick or your ass in her mouth and she doesn't want to quit because she realised she loves it too much.
Last thing is she's impressed with your perfect mattress and wants to get one for herself but doesn't know how to do..[/QUOTE]I nominate this for the funniest post of the year. Cracks me up every time I read it.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2796939]I had planned to barfine a lady I know at Catflaps today, but when I went there, the mamasan advised me they had a group of new ladies newly arrived. I bought drinks for both the lady I came for, and a lady the Mamasan brought over. The mamasan asked me to train her, so that's what I did.
The three of us walked to my pool villa, and proceeded to drink. To cut to the chase, after a few hours, everyone was naked, and ultimately, in the bedroom. The two ladies were intent on making me cum, but I noticed that they were hands on with each other. But I knew the newbie, only 20 years old, was not really horny, so I worked on her more. Eventually, I had the other lady behind her, holding her legs in the air, while I fucked the newbie.
Not a bad day, although someone will tell me I am doing it wrong.
Damage: 2000 baht per lady, plus 1000 barfine.
I worked the newbie more to see if anything made her horny. Her clit was dead, it just made her ticklish, but her pussy did react to manual stimulation, in fact she was very wet.[/QUOTE]If you already know the lady (probably her contact info) why were you planning to bar fine her instead of calling her?
Why pay the finders fee twice?
Recently another poster did the same thing.
Have a drink or two in the bar but why pay the middle man?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2798427]Stop wearing your "Jai Dee" T-shirt!
Does this shit happen to the rest of you guys "often", using Explorer's words? Mr. E, ET, Goats, HP, LBM, and others who have lived in Thailand for a long time? It can't be only me that this stuff only happens to once every 3+ years.[/QUOTE]This mostly depends on the guy's behavior.
If the girl notices that the guy is careless with money at the club, restaurant, multiple bar fines on the same girl, spends most of the time clubbing with the girl instead of in the room. She assumes money doesn't mean much to him and asks for more.
Does anyone have a recommendation for a Dentist in Pattaya? I might need to get some work done.
[QUOTE=Mongoose312;2799016]Does anyone have a recommendation for a Dentist in Pattaya? I might need to get some work done.[/QUOTE]To get best advice you need to state the problem or work? For serious work crowns, root canals I use German Dental, on Thappaya Road I think it is on corner of Soi 9 on the left.
The German guy is actual a Master Dental Technician craftsman he does the talking and consultation Thai doctors doing all the work. The doctors he uses seem more skilled than the usual for places I've use just for cleaning and fillings. The place can do crowns in a day if in a hurry I've not found him cheap but satisfied with the work.
Recommended one highly on Pattaya Nua up from the bus station same side told trained in USA iI checked it out prices just for cleaning surely reflects. My brother recently took his Thai wife to Bangkok Pattaya Hospital Dental division for whatever reason since last he use local offices on the Darkside which I also but only for cleaning and fillings. The doctors said prior work was done all wrong but one look at their qualification majority Thais Doctors trained at Khon Kean Uni. Personally I have a real mistrust for this hospital that they would do or say a thing to make a baht prices high even for basic cleaning. Ten year past I try their cleaning promotional price 1500 baht the procedure was the same if I went to a hole in the wall.
I hear Pattaya Memorial on 2nd Road dental good reviews Good Luck.
[QUOTE=Mongoose312;2799016]Does anyone have a recommendation for a Dentist in Pattaya? I might need to get some work done.[/QUOTE]I have found it best to go to the Dental section at the Bangkok Pattaya Hospital on Sukhumvit road. You can just show up and they will fit you in pretty quick. Also, the PIDC (Pattaya International Dental Center I think it is called) on Soi Buakhao just across from Soi Honey and the Siam Sawasdee Hotel is pretty good also. I would avoid clinics as I went to one once and they found a cavity, so I said fill it and they said that I had to go to the Bangkok Pattaya Hospital for that. I think at the clinics they are mainly technicians and not dentists.
[QUOTE=Mongoose312;2799016]Does anyone have a recommendation for a Dentist in Pattaya? I might need to get some work done.[/QUOTE]I've patronised "Dentist at Beach", at Central Festival shopping mall, same floor as the banks. Not the cheapest but I've been on the whole satisfied with their work.
[QUOTE=XXL;2799169]I've patronised "Dentist at Beach", at Central Festival shopping mall, same floor as the banks. Not the cheapest but I've been on the whole satisfied with their work.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the rec.
[QUOTE=Franga;2799134]I have found it best to go to the Dental section at the Bangkok Pattaya Hospital on Sukhumvit road. You can just show up and they will fit you in pretty quick. Also, the PIDC (Pattaya International Dental Center I think it is called) on Soi Buakhao just across from Soi Honey and the Siam Sawasdee Hotel is pretty good also. I would avoid clinics as I went to one once and they found a cavity, so I said fill it and they said that I had to go to the Bangkok Pattaya Hospital for that. I think at the clinics they are mainly technicians and not dentists.[/QUOTE]This is probably the best (and most expensive) hospital in Pattaya- I've visited a few times. Didn't know they had dental. This is a great idea because I can make other visits while I'm there.
What can they even do at clinics if not fill? Just clean?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2799122]To get best advice you need to state the problem or work? For serious work crowns, root canals I use German Dental, on Thappaya Road I think it is on corner of Soi 9 on the left.
The German guy is actual a Master Dental Technician craftsman he does the talking and consultation Thai doctors doing all the work. The doctors he uses seem more skilled than the usual for places I've use just for cleaning and fillings. The place can do crowns in a day if in a hurry I've not found him cheap but satisfied with the work.
Recommended one highly on Pattaya Nua up from the bus station same side told trained in USA iI checked it out prices just for cleaning surely reflects. My brother recently took his Thai wife to Bangkok Pattaya Hospital Dental division for whatever reason since last he use local offices on the Darkside which I also but only for cleaning and fillings. The doctors said prior work was done all wrong but one look at their qualification majority Thais Doctors trained at Khon Kean Uni. Personally I have a real mistrust for this hospital that they would do or say a thing to make a baht prices high even for basic cleaning. Ten year past I try their cleaning promotional price 1500 baht the procedure was the same if I went to a hole in the wall.
I hear Pattaya Memorial on 2nd Road dental good reviews Good Luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the recs. I need cleaning and possible cavity filling. Any idea what that might run in baht on average?
[QUOTE=Mongoose312;2799186]Thanks for the recs. I need cleaning and possible cavity filling. Any idea what that might run in baht on average?[/QUOTE]There is a number of places across from Tukcom other side of Soii Pattaya Yai, places on Klang near 2nd Road when it comes to cleaning not the same as in the States, standard X-ray once a year, gum Dept evalution a good polish I've not found that in 20 years visiting in Pattaya.
Cleaning I've found around 800 baht average but depends on condition. My cousin heavy smoker still 800 baht, fillings basic recieeding gum area 500-800 baht that is on Darkside tourist area in town certainly might be higher. No harm just walk in a place and ask shop around. Good luck.
[QUOTE=Mongoose312;2799186]Thanks for the recs. I need cleaning and possible cavity filling. Any idea what that might run in baht on average?[/QUOTE]Cleaning is 1000 baht. Filling is 1500 baht. I had a filling done today where one had broken and my buddy had a cleaning done right before me.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2798155]If you live in Pattaya, you will be hit up by the ladies for money a lot. Most ladies who work bar support a Significant Other who drains their money. Which often requires them to hit up customers or other bargirls for cash.
I just got sent a photo of a smashed moto by a lady. She said she needed money because her son had an accident last night.
The problem is that she previously told me son had a moto accident last year, and couldn't walk.
So, she forgot her story. Probably, her husband needs money for something.[/QUOTE]555,
Thai ladies are not really good liars, or it's lost in translation. Hahaha! I had a lady whom asked me to help paying for her sons education. Well, fortunately I already knew that basic school in Thailand is free!!
The women want to use your possible lack of knowledge and because you don't live in the country of Thailand.
Have I send money? Yes! I never said I was perfect, but mistakes makes a man a bit smarter.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2799005]If you already know the lady (probably her contact info) why were you planning to bar fine her instead of calling her?
Why pay the finders fee twice?
Recently another poster did the same thing.
Have a drink or two in the bar but why pay the middle man?[/QUOTE]You are really asking why I barfined a lady?
You mean that I should have bought the lady a drink or two, and then asked her to come with me without paying her barfine?
Or, I should have waited until the end of her shift?
No understand.
It was early in the afternoon, I was staying at a pool villa, and so wanted to go with two ladies in the daytime. The only opportunity required paying their barfine.
I made a rookie mistake last night. I barfined a lady last night but stopped at 7/11 on the way back. She thought it was Christmas, and bought out the Cosmetics section.
I'm aware of it Sir and subscribed to most of their SM feeds. I'm talking about photo updates as there are on the Philippines forum page. Raunchy types.
Reviews with photos elevates the reading experience. That's it.
[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2798446]I know some people here like to be spoon-fed but it's actually very easy to find photos of girls. Almost every gogo bar on Walking Street and Soi LK Metro posts daily updates on social media with latest photos of their girls, as do most of the bars on Soi 6. It's surprising the things you can find online if you're willing to make at least a modicum of effort.[/QUOTE]
So continuing my adventure trying to make time to get some action, while hanging with my non-mongering friend, I was able to duck out one afternoon for a few hours on my 3 d day, I had yet to try a soapy, so went to honey massage 2. It was close to mid-afternoon and there were about 30 girls available between 2700-4000 only 1 super model at the top end but not really my type, very pale and anime like. None in the next tier down were my type either, fortunately the 2 lower tiers had a few that looked promising, more my type, but I think there was someone for all tastes. Anyway had my eye on one girl in the 2700 category, really nice looking to me, but she kept avoiding eye contact, all I wanted was some eye contact and a return smile to say yep I'll give you a good time, but no. So I moved on, fortunately there was another girl up the back in ghe 3300 range who was also pretty good looking with what looked from a distance as a really nice pair of tits. So I let the mamasan know and she comes down and off to the desk to pay. While waiting I ask how her English is and she indicates not much, I do the same but for Thai, she tells me her name is Fah.
I like the rooms here, nice modern style clean big beds clean baths.
I sit while Fah prepares the rom and bath, then we disrobe and hop in where she gives me a thorough wash with soap, then we hop onto the mat with the soap bubbles and she slides up and down and this confirms that her tits are large perfect naturals, with hard nipples, they felt awesome.
After a wash off, onto the bed where she begins a CBJ, first one of those in a while, but her technique is quite good, no kissing allowed but I ask for 69 and she is up for that, I don't profess to have a wonder tongue, but the CBJ became a lot more enthusiastic, I had to tap out after a while as she seemed pretty happy in that pos. As sir L notes we went through the holy trinity of positions with me spending plenty on time with those wonderful breasts finally finishing with her on top.
After a cleanup she offered a massage which was quite good, we then finished up and I headed back out into the heat.
Really happy with the session overall, even the CBJ.
WIR: Yes.
Cost: 3300 +140 for a soda water.
Since I had more time, I thought I might try another session on soi 6, but knowing myself I knew I was going to need some time to recover, but I went for a walk down the soi, it's was about 3. 30 and most bars had many girls of all types with one or 2 dotted here and there, which matched my type, but I was not even close to ready, so head out to beach road and up to where they were getting ready for the music fest and hung out there for a big grabbing some food.
I had a deadline as I'd promised to meet my friend for dinner and time was running out so I headed up soi 6 to see if anything stirred but not a peep, but there were quite a few more customers in bars but still lots of girls, though there were a small number who looked incredibly young, I really hope they were not as young as they looked. There are some lines that should not be crossed.
Anyway, reached the end of the soi and figured I was not going to be ready for another round in time so jumped on a motorbike taxi and went to dinner.
4th day, hung out with my friend at the beach all day eating and drinking until 8 pm, last day / night in Pattaya, they were quite drunk by the end and I was pretty tipsy and tired, but wanted a little fun, so made an excuse to duck out and caught a motorbike taxi to honey massage 2 again, it was 8. 30 pm and the place was busy, ordered a soda and sat to have a look, range tonight was 2200-3600 No super models, again none of the top tier were my type, neither the very bottom level, the 2700 had a couple possibilities but the M level 3300 had several, but in the space of a few minutes 2 options disappeared so I had to strike and finally spotted her, pretty girl who I estimate is in her mid to late 20's forgot to ask, she gave her name as "enjoy" and I immediately thought of several crude jokes which did not pass my lips. Again noted she had little English, but was actually ok, better than Fah the day before, and we had a good chat about many things like travel, food and jokes about my dick going to sleep all the time (it had been a long day and I had drunk a bit).
Any way service was may not quite polished a fah, but the enthusiasm and friendly banter and warmth made up for it. No kissing or DATY allowed for safety, but CBJ was good and she also had nice natural boobs of a good size only slightly less firm than the awesome fah. She did allow fingering though, so I had her lying down while performing CBJ and I fingered her till she started getting naturally wet before we tried a couple of positions and I finished, she made all the appropriate noises, I know they were most likely not real but that was some of the best acting I've seen / heard. As soon as I'd finished, she clean me up then snuggled up for a cuddle and more chatting even getting out google translate for more complicated discussion.
Again a great session, I feel I lucked out, I would have asked for her line if I was not heading out in the morning and out of Thailand the day after, just one more mongering left and going to see what I can make happen in BKK tomorrow.
WIR: absolutely (though doubt I will see he ever again).
Cost:3300 + 140 + 120 LD + 2 x 10 tops to waiters.
Had a couple of ladies over for drinks in the condo yesterday, but I just wasn't in the mood.
After they had consumed tequila, they were naked, and in the mood.
But, I guess I am a bit burnt out, and needed a day off from tending to pussy.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2799569]Had a couple of ladies over for drinks in the condo yesterday, but I just wasn't in the mood.
After they had consumed tequila, they were naked, and in the mood.
But, I guess I am a bit burnt out, and needed a day off from tending to pussy.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the informative update.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2799322]I made a rookie mistake last night. I barfined a lady last night but stopped at 7/11 on the way back. She thought it was Christmas, and bought out the Cosmetics section.[/QUOTE]The mistake you made was not telling her you were not buying that shit. Was your mouth not working?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2799587]Thanks for the informative update.[/QUOTE]Yeah, slow news day.
One lady was in tears because she was having a fight with her Farang boyfriend. Apparently, she didn't show up for a date, and instead drank with a lady friend at a bar. At one point, she was cosying up to a customer when her Farang boyfriend walked in. Big fight, and he ignored all day yesterday.
She started drinking in the morning, and continued at my condo.
She alternated between crying, then talking about her 4 other current boyfriends, and then about fucking me.
In 2 days, this lady and I are going to Phuket for 3 days. She doesn't need my money, and she is not interested in sex with me, she has a lady friend in Phuket who she is hot for. More than for her Farang boyfriend.
I told her that she can forget her Farang boyfriend if she goes to Phuket. But she knows he isn't really a boyfriend, he goes with many ladies, and what they did before, they eill do again after she comes back.
Yeah, there is a lot of drama in a bar that the 2 week millionaires miss.
Treetown area and Soi 6 horrible if you like attractive girls.
Walking Street can be hit or miss.
I spotted a Pretty Girl last night at Sharks.
Sharks legit info. Barfine 1,500. Girl fee 3,000 short. Hotel 500.
Seems reasonable.
I'm going to be in Pattaya (and Phuket) this coming June. Is the club 808 worth all the hype? And I been meaning to check out this gogo bar called Sapphire club, based on the pictures all the women look fine compared to other gogo bars. What was you guy's experience with Sapphire club?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2799613]Yeah, slow news day.
One lady was in tears because she was having a fight with her Farang boyfriend. Apparently, she didn't show up for a date, and instead drank with a lady friend at a bar. At one point, she was cosying up to a customer when her Farang boyfriend walked in. Big fight, and he ignored all day yesterday.
She started drinking in the morning, and continued at my condo.
She alternated between crying, then talking about her 4 other current boyfriends, and then about fucking me.
In 2 days, this lady and I are going to Phuket for 3 days. She doesn't need my money, and she is not interested in sex with me, she has a lady friend in Phuket who she is hot for. More than for her Farang boyfriend.
I told her that she can forget her Farang boyfriend if she goes to Phuket. But she knows he isn't really a boyfriend, he goes with many ladies, and what they did before, they eill do again after she comes back.
Yeah, there is a lot of drama in a bar that the 2 week millionaires miss.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the informative report.
[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2799625]Treetown area and Soi 6 horrible if you like attractive girls.
Walking Street can be hit or miss.
I spotted a Pretty Girl last night at Sharks.
Sharks legit info. Barfine 1,500. Girl fee 3,000 short. Hotel 500.
Seems reasonable.[/QUOTE]For extremely attractive girls you have to overpay for gogos, find a gem on TF (not likely), or go after civvies.
Most of the venues in Pattaya have average to good looking women at best, the real lookers need to be found via the aforementioned methods. Too much work for me so I'm content with average to above average looking grls.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2799612]The mistake you made was not telling her you were not buying that shit. Was your mouth not working?[/QUOTE]A great way to start a session with a lady.
My alternative is that I will not barfine her again. And let her friends know why.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2799612]The mistake you made was not telling her you were not buying that shit. Was your mouth not working?[/QUOTE]He's still wearing his 100 baht "Jai Dee" t-shirt.
I did it with my very first gogo girl on my very first night in Thailand. I figured what's 500 baht so paid for her stuff. Then when she tried to do it on my 2nd night in Thailand I told her no. She never tried to pull that stunt on me again.
Even now when my GF lets me know she needs to go to Watson's I tell her as she's walking in the store I'm going to buy a McDonald's ice cream. She would never ask me to pay for her shit anyways she's too independent but why put myself in a possible scenario when she forgot her wallet or something.
Before Covid, there was an area south of Walking Street where the tour buses parked. Due to all the idle Thai men, there were ladies available to service them for small money. I don't remember the name of the area, but Farangs could go there for extremely cheap sex, mainly blowjobs.
Many ladies simply lived in the area, in rough leantos or just on a blanket. These were mostly older ladies addicted to the lifestyle, or something else.
Now I am seeing a big increase in tour buses, so I am wondering if that area is active again.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2799894]He's still wearing his 100 baht "Jai Dee" t-shirt.
I did it with my very first gogo girl on my very first night in Thailand. I figured what's 500 baht so paid for her stuff. Then when she tried to do it on my 2nd night in Thailand I told her no. She never tried to pull that stunt on me again.
Even now when my GF lets me know she needs to go to Watson's I tell her as she's walking in the store I'm going to buy a McDonald's ice cream. She would never ask me to pay for her shit anyways she's too independent but why put myself in a possible scenario when she forgot her wallet or something.[/QUOTE]I needed to stop at 7/11 on the way home, and forgot that some bargirls will buy all sorts of stuff if you give them the chance. I blew 200 or 300 baht on face cream and the like.
I don't mind if they buy something they need in my condo, maybe a toothbrush. The problem comes when they buy a bag of swag to take home with them.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2799895]Before Covid, there was an area south of Walking Street where the tour buses parked. Due to all the idle Thai men, there were ladies available to service them for small money. I don't remember the name of the area, but Farangs could go there for extremely cheap sex, mainly blowjobs.
Many ladies simply lived in the area, in rough leantos or just on a blanket. These were mostly older ladies addicted to the lifestyle, or something else.
Now I am seeing a big increase in tour buses, so I am wondering if that area is active again.[/QUOTE]The crack shacks is what I called it. I think it finished when they paved the road. I used to pay 200 baht there. I have put reports on it with pictures here before. As soon as that cum skeets into her mouth, she is running out to buy a hit.
[QUOTE=BigZozoIntl;2799807]I'm going to be in Pattaya (and Phuket) this coming June. Is the club 808 worth all the hype? [/QUOTE]What do you mean worth the hype? It is just a disco with mainly hookers like 18 other ones in Pattaya. It is just this particular one only plays hip-hop. You do not have to pay to get in so the only worth to be lost is spending 5 minutes of your time to go see for yourself.
I went the other night because my boy had a spot reserved in the VIP section. Something else I do not understand. Why do I want to be up here when all the chicks are down there? I like to be amongst the people. Besides that, it is a small VIP section that is shared by I think there were 5 groups that night. 2 groups per sofa. So I would just go up there to pour my drink, then I was back down on the floor hunting chicks.
Ended up going with a chick that just came from Bahrain. It is her first time in Pattaya. She said the way she sucks dick will make me fall in love. I put her to the test and she was right. The usual 1000 baht long time. She tried for 2000. She said that when she came to Pattaya her friend told her that she can not expect to get the kind of money that she was getting in Bahrain. She said there guys pay 4,000 baht. I said well I am glad that she fucking warned you before coming to my room!
I had a little free time yesterday so I stopped into Club Fate for a drink. A few days before, I was drinking there, and a customer had a bunch of naked ladies popping in and out of a curtained off area. But yesterday, no such luck.
I did see a brand new lady being checked in, and then go off to sit by herself. So, I did my duty and bought the lady her first drink.
Her first reaction was to ask if I spoke Thai, but spoke with a strange accent. After that, things went downhill. No English, but spoke Thai differently than bargirls. Just like Farangs speak Pidgin English to the ladies, most bargirls speak simple Thai to us. But not this one. Her Thai was so strange that I asked if she were from Cambodia or some other country. Her response was that she was from an area south of Bangkok (known for its transient population, so she could be from anywhere). She couldn't sit still, she was up and down once a minute, cleaning the table and throwing out the tissue. When she went to the toilet, I checked out and told the cashier I couldn't understand her. The cashier responded that nobody else could.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2797580]I'm guessing full from all the guys on here with 0 posts or only posts asking for information seeking special gems from Sir L.
Had a guy with 0 posts last week ask me for my SA connections. When did I ever post I did even TF, let alone SA?[/QUOTE]Do the Gems hide back in the Bar away from us Lookie Loos. Last week I walked Soi6 37 times looking for a Zirconium. All I found was Beach Road type girls. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2797597]Most of your encounters with these Pattaya chics sound the same if I'm not wrong.
Girl is not willing to come.
Then she wants to come at her price.
You say no I live there and give your price.
Girl says no, after 1 minute she says yes and agrees to everything.
Girl arrive to the room and appears emotionally unstable and talk a lot of nonsense, at one point she's even about to leave the place before any action happened.
Next things that happens is Girl has your dick or your ass in her mouth and she doesn't want to quit because she realised she loves it too much.
Last thing is she's impressed with your perfect mattress and wants to get one for herself but doesn't know how to do.
Girl is even not in need for money because she has a work or is already rich, and yet she wants money for being fucked.[/QUOTE]Not to mention any names but 2 guys seem to live in LaLa Land.
Nurses from Bangkok coming to Pattaya for 1,000 baht. Okie dokie. Only thing I can think of is look like Don Rickles.
[QUOTE=SuperLove;2797905]Such a interesting forum with mongers promoting their sexcapades, yet no photos of the girls they screw. Sad, let us also see what we miss while you guys are at play. Correct![/QUOTE]By prices given think beer bars, older ones. Prices do matter.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2797974]Here you go.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. He meant real photos of 1,000 bahters. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2798853]Pattaya Updates.
High season shows no signs of easing with throngs of tourists on walking street and beach road, especially after 8 pm.
Street performers, travel groups and placard people make maneuvering a nightmare.
Pier side Russian club has hired a few girls to dance to street view. Trying to give a non working girl vibe.
Huge influx of 25 new Uzbek beach road near their usual spot. After 8 pm.
Close by a deaf lady selling snacks. With a deaf label hanging above.
Right next to them has been a surge in laad boi. At least 25 well made up. After 8 pm.
Strangely I have seen Indians travel group behind flag.
And also huge Russian travel group (Alimi travels?) behind flag.
Chinese travel group went into panda gogo and spent some time there.
Pattaya music festival today and tomorrow with only one stage near holiday inn.
Lots of road breakage and construction on beach road by Soi 6.[/QUOTE]This past Sunday what looked like old Chinese tour group went into Baccara.
Old men and women. Came in 10 minutes later left. Quite a sight.
About photos. This is the issue.
Group 1 . Desirable girls.
Group 2. Avg Girls.
Group 3. 1,000 baht girls.
Guy want to know how you are getting group 1 at group 3 prices.
Answer. They aren't. They are getting group 3 at group 3 prices.
Hey guys! Heading to Pattaya in the next mont staying for 3 weeks.
I would like to ask if it's possible to find some cougars, in the age range of 50 -60?
Should I focus on chaiyapoon, soi buakhao and LK metro or just go online on Thaifriendly?
Where can I stay outside of Pattaya for quietness and privacy but still guest friendly and cheap.
I'm going to rent a scooter so distance is not a problem. Or should I rent a house outside of Pattaya? Is it save to bring guest to airnb?
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2799895]Before Covid, there was an area south of Walking Street where the tour buses parked. Due to all the idle Thai men, there were ladies available to service them for small money. I don't remember the name of the area, but Farangs could go there for extremely cheap sex, mainly blowjobs.
Many ladies simply lived in the area, in rough leantos or just on a blanket. These were mostly older ladies addicted to the lifestyle, or something else.
Now I am seeing a big increase in tour buses, so I am wondering if that area is active again.[/QUOTE]The Bush mountain girls! I wouldn't touch those women even for free.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2799893]A great way to start a session with a lady.
My alternative is that I will not barfine her again. And let her friends know why.[/QUOTE]Obviously she did not feel the same way. That is how farang have earned the moniker buffalo. Why talk to others that have nothing to do with it about it after the fact instead of talking to the offender at the time the offense is made?
Exactly how guys get caught up in relationships and marriages that they do not want to be in. They are afraid to speak up at the beginning because they don't want to ruin "the start of a session. " They just go along to get along. Put your big boy pants on and be a leader, not a creampuff. Leaders have to make tough decisions, but they get used to it. I would have decided to take that chick right back to the bar right after I did not pay for that shit.
[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2800007]Hahaha. He meant real photos of 1,000 bahters. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]My bad. I should have posted someone else's youtube video and had everyone look 30 minutes to see 2 seconds of the chick in the yellow dress.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2800054]Obviously she did not feel the same way. That is how farang have earned the moniker buffalo. Why talk to others that have nothing to do with it about it after the fact instead of talking to the offender at the time the offense is made?
Exactly how guys get caught up in relationships and marriages that they do not want to be in. They are afraid to speak up at the beginning because they don't want to ruin "the start of a session. " They just go along to get along. Put your big boy pants on and be a leader, not a creampuff. Leaders have to make tough decisions, but they get used to it. I would have decided to take that chick right back to the bar right after I did not pay for that shit.[/QUOTE]I was being facetious.
This is Thailand. Being confrontational does not work well.
Instead, I had a great session, and let her friends know today what she did wrong, and why I won't barfine her again.
[QUOTE=Robinho87;2800031]Hey guys! Heading to Pattaya in the next mont staying for 3 weeks.
I would like to ask if it's possible to find some cougars, in the age range of 50 -60?
Should I focus on chaiyapoon, soi buakhao and LK metro or just go online on Thaifriendly?
Where can I stay outside of Pattaya for quietness and privacy but still guest friendly and cheap.
I'm going to rent a scooter so distance is not a problem. Or should I rent a house outside of Pattaya? Is it save to bring guest to airnb?[/QUOTE]Camel Toe has GILFs.
[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2800010]This past Sunday what looked like old Chinese tour group went into Baccara.
Old men and women. Came in 10 minutes later left. Quite a sight.[/QUOTE]Could be Koreans. A lot go to Baccara in groups.
I can't see Baccara doing business with Chinese tour groups.
I have been checking out twitter in Thailand with the purpose of seeing what thaimen pay the ladies. I wanted to know because prices in Pattaya have risen. So I was curious if it was mostly for tourists that they have risen or if the same thing applied to thaimen. Prices are different in general but not always. You can still find girls for the same price that a thaiman would pay.
One thing I did was to check what the sideline girls charge and of coruse here we can see a big differance. The same girls that in a gogo would ask for 3000 asks for 1500 for an hour at thier place. But it gets better. There are girls on twitter and sideline webpages that ask for 500-800 baht for a visit. I have seen some of them in Pattaya and they don't look bad at all. In fact they look like many other girls in Pattaya.
And its about 700 baht to visit them for full service. This shows that some girls in Pattaya are asking double of what they would ask from the locals. I would not mind if they asked for 200-300 baht more but this is in my opinion unacceptable. I think everybody should be await of this when they ask how much and get an answer form a 33 year old "1500 baht". From a Thai she would get half.
People are sometimes paying way to much in Pattaya.
You can find this women yourself by looking at twitter and searching for.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2799954]What do you mean worth the hype? It is just a disco with mainly hookers like 18 other ones in Pattaya. It is just this particular one only plays hip-hop. You do not have to pay to get in so the only worth to be lost is spending 5 minutes of your time to go see for yourself.
I went the other night because my boy had a spot reserved in the VIP section. Something else I do not understand. Why do I want to be up here when all the chicks are down there? I like to be amongst the people. Besides that, it is a small VIP section that is shared by I think there were 5 groups that night. 2 groups per sofa. So I would just go up there to pour my drink, then I was back down on the floor hunting chicks.
Ended up going with a chick that just came from Bahrain. It is her first time in Pattaya. She said the way she sucks dick will make me fall in love. I put her to the test and she was right. The usual 1000 baht long time. She tried for 2000. She said that when she came to Pattaya her friend told her that she can not expect to get the kind of money that she was getting in Bahrain. She said there guys pay 4,000 baht. I said well I am glad that she fucking warned you before coming to my room![/QUOTE]Thanks for the post. How much is a bottle at the club?
That post about cheap ladies on Twitter looks scammy to me.
The only logical reason for a girl to go Bargirling in a country that pays less is because she is unattractive as can be.
[QUOTE=BigZozoIntl;2800244]Thanks for the post. How much is a bottle at the club?[/QUOTE]I do not know these days. I usually just drink soda water. My buddy bought all that shit. I think they have specials where you can buy 3 bottles of like Absolut or Chivas for 3000 or 4000 baht then whatever you do not finish they will keep in the club for you until next time.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2800097]This is Thailand. Being confrontational does not work well.[/QUOTE]So you would have done the same thing if she had put up 10,000 baht worth of stuff on the counter for you to buy because being confrontational does not work well in Thailand. What if you had put up 500 baht worth of stuff for her to pay for? You think she would have just paid for it because being confrontational does not work well in Thailand? There is a thick line between being confrontational and standing up for yourself.
[QUOTE=Robinho87;2800031]Hey guys! Heading to Pattaya in the next mont staying for 3 weeks.
I would like to ask if it's possible to find some cougars, in the age range of 50 -60?
Should I focus on chaiyapoon, soi buakhao and LK metro or just go online on Thaifriendly?
Where can I stay outside of Pattaya for quietness and privacy but still guest friendly and cheap.
I'm going to rent a scooter so distance is not a problem. Or should I rent a house outside of Pattaya? Is it save to bring guest to airnb?[/QUOTE]Plenty of old ladies on chaiyapoon, and most massage shops as well. I'd guess alot of the older freelancers on tf work at massage shops anyways.
[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2800011]Group 1 . Desirable girls.
Group 2. Avg Girls.
Group 3. 1,000 baht girls.
Guy want to know how you are getting group 1 at group 3 prices.
Answer. They aren't. They are getting group 3 at group 3 prices.[/QUOTE]Well there is a new Miss Thailand in town. If the girl you are renting does not look like this then she is subpar.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2800098]Camel Toe has GILFs.[/QUOTE]Thanks man!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2800274]So you would have done the same thing if she had put up 10,000 baht worth of stuff on the counter for you to buy because being confrontational does not work well in Thailand. What if you had put up 500 baht worth of stuff for her to pay for? You think she would have just paid for it because being confrontational does not work well in Thailand? There is a thick line between being confrontational and standing up for yourself.[/QUOTE]I am sorry if you are uncomfortable with Thai culture.
If she had tried to buy 10,000 baht worth of stuff, I would not have said "no", I would have said I didn't have 10,000 baht. Just use some common sense, as well as respect for the local culture.
Or better yet, don't go to 7/11 with a new bargirl.
Despite all the gloom and doom posts last year, Pattaya is jammed with customers long after the height of High Season. I have never seen Pattaya so busy at the end of March.
Of course, its not as busy as during the Christmas holidays, but any decent lady has plenty of customers.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2800192]I have been checking out twitter in Thailand with the purpose of seeing what thaimen pay the ladies. I wanted to know because prices in Pattaya have risen. So I was curious if it was mostly for tourists that they have risen or if the same thing applied to thaimen. Prices are different in general but not always. You can still find girls for the same price that a thaiman would pay.
One thing I did was to check what the sideline girls charge and of coruse here we can see a big differance. The same girls that in a gogo would ask for 3000 asks for 1500 for an hour at thier place. But it gets better. There are girls on twitter and sideline webpages that ask for 500-800 baht for a visit. I have seen some of them in Pattaya and they don't look bad at all. In fact they look like many other girls in Pattaya.
And its about 700 baht to visit them for full service. This shows that some girls in Pattaya are asking double of what they would ask from the locals. I would not mind if they asked for 200-300 baht more but this is in my opinion unacceptable. I think everybody should be await of this when they ask how much and get an answer form a 33 year old "1500 baht". From a Thai she would get half.[/QUOTE]Bargirl in Training.
Rule one. You target what kind of Client you want.
You can't cover all. High Society. Japan Tourist. Somchai at 7-11.
Some girls are fortunate in that they can choose. Hot girls.
Other take what they can get- cold girls.
I just can't see Superstars getting 3,000 3 times a night. Then getting up at 9 am and doing 7-11 somechai for 1,000 baht. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=Robinho87;2800031]Hey guys! Heading to Pattaya in the next mont staying for 3 weeks.
I would like to ask if it's possible to find some cougars, in the age range of 50 -60?
Should I focus on chaiyapoon, soi buakhao and LK metro or just go online on Thaifriendly?
Where can I stay outside of Pattaya for quietness and privacy but still guest friendly and cheap.
I'm going to rent a scooter so distance is not a problem. Or should I rent a house outside of Pattaya? Is it save to bring guest to airnb?[/QUOTE]Head to Bamboo Bar just to the left of the entrance to Walking street. You will probably see just what you are looking for. All dressed up and ready to party.
[QUOTE=HardDrive;2800409]Head to Bamboo Bar just to the left of the entrance to Walking street. You will probably see just what you are looking for. All dressed up and ready to party.[/QUOTE]So many around these days! Just view the many daily YouTube vlog posts and assess from there!
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2800256]That post about cheap ladies on Twitter looks scammy to me.[/QUOTE]They charge 500 or 700 for 30 minutes, room fee is not included.
Judging by the pictures, they are not that good looking either, and most would probably not speak English.
If you compare the price with the standard 1 hour price in basic places in Pattaya, you're not getting a better deal with these twitter girls.
Plus you have to go through the hassle of communicating with someone you don't know on the phone, you have to find her shitty location and don't even know what the girl will look like if you can really meet her in real life.
May be a scam but doesn't seem to be worth the hassle anyway.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2800256]That post about cheap ladies on Twitter looks scammy to me.[/QUOTE]I can guarantee you that it is not. If you don't believe me then start google for sideline webpages. There is plenty of info out there. Some of this girls work through an agency but some are freelancers that work from a hotel room or their own apartment. I started looking this up when I hear of the price increases in Pattaya during this "high season". This price increases does not seem right to me for a country with Thailand's economy. I could not imagine that thaimen were paying 2000 for a 30 minutes in a room in a bar. Its not the prices of countries that has a GDP / capita of 7000 USD. I was there summer 22 and mostly kept my costs down. Was at soi 6 and mostly paid 1000. But already then I noticed that some girls wanting to push up the prices. One laughable example was a women on beach road in her mid 30's asking for 1500 baht. I know that she had been asking for 1000 before covid. I was asked in one bar for 2000 for an average looking younger girl, that's for a session in one of the bars room. Add and additional barfine and you are above 60 euro. That's what you pay in some places in western European countries with much higher income and price levels. People are being routinely asked for double of what the women would be asking a thaiman for. No way a 35 year old gets 1500 for ST. Some average looking women in Bangkok are asking for even more than that.
I will post a picture from a twitterpost I found. I saw that it is a picture form a gogo bar and she was asking 1300 for a visit to her place. I asked her if its 3000+1500 for tourist but 1300 for thaimen, she just said "yes". Thats a nice welcoming attitude is it not?
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2800428]They charge 500 or 700 for 30 minutes, room fee is not included.
Judging by the pictures, they are not that good looking either, and most would probably not speak English.
If you compare the price with the standard 1 hour price in basic places in Pattaya, you're not getting a better deal with these twitter girls.
Plus you have to go through the hassle of communicating with someone you don't know on the phone, you have to find her shitty location and don't even know what the girl will look like if you can really meet her in real life.
May be a scam but doesn't seem to be worth the hassle anyway.[/QUOTE]They don't seem to look any worse than many of the bargirls in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2800393]Despite all the gloom and doom posts last year, Pattaya is jammed with customers long after the height of High Season. I have never seen Pattaya so busy at the end of March.
Of course, its not as busy as during the Christmas holidays, but any decent lady has plenty of customers.[/QUOTE]It's is now cheaper to travel these past few months.
International Flights have come down in price. Covid Restrictions are mostly gone.
Cheap guys like me. But patient. Bought their plane tickets 4 months in advance. Currently I can get 3 weeks Air / Hotel for $1,250 USD. Just 3 months ago it was around $1,800 - and I spend HOURS on the travel sites to have gotten that price.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2800105]Could be Koreans. A lot go to Baccara in groups.
I can't see Baccara doing business with Chinese tour groups.[/QUOTE]You are wrong! They were doing well before even covid not the tour bus stuff but smaller groups of 15-20, they use to run upstairs get their 1 drink, and out about 30 minutes. This was also being done at Happy GoGo, one of the reasons they expanded the failed section of Beach Club. Many can't tell the difference but well before Covid, there was the better-off Chinese from Mainland and Hong Kong visiting Bacarra in much smaller groups like the Koreans and Japanese. The former manager of Bacarra had lots of contacts with well-off Thais from Bangkok, Chinese today he is managing Peppermint a number of current mamasans are old from Baccara and Happy the connections are still there.
I need to put to rest this Patttaya is busy as BEEJESUS.
I was there total of 14 days this past month. For reference.
First 3 months of 2023 tourists to Thailand are 50% of what it was Pre Corolla. I'm sure each Thai region have felt it accordingly. In a few words. They all suffering.
Specific Pattaya. Some places busy some not. Walking street busy but still don't know where they going. LOL. Surely not the Bars. This past Monday Pin ups look like a Graveyard, I had my choice of high Society seats right up front in the middle.
Baccara was no better. All the 2nd and lower tier bars struggle even when busy.
[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2800545]I need to put to rest this Patttaya is busy as BEEJESUS.
I was there total of 14 days this past month. For reference.
First 3 months of 2023 tourists to Thailand are 50% of what it was Pre Corolla. I'm sure each Thai region have felt it accordingly. In a few words. They all suffering.
Specific Pattaya. Some places busy some not. Walking street busy but still don't know where they going. LOL. Surely not the Bars. This past Monday Pin ups look like a Graveyard, I had my choice of high Society seats right up front in the middle.
Baccara was no better. All the 2nd and lower tier bars struggle even when busy.[/QUOTE]I went to Walking Street last week.
Skyfall was crowded, Bacarra was jammed, I couldn't get into PinUp.
The new Windmill was jammed.
WS had lots of pedestrians, few Chinese.
Yes, some small bars are empty, but that was the case pre Covid.
Bolt is almost useless at night, too many customers.
Baht buses are crowded. 5 years ago, I would see jammed baht buses during Christmas, but its almost April now.
Pent up demand plus lower airfare prices = a ton of customers in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2800448]Some of this girls work through an agency but some are freelancers that work from a hotel room or their own apartment. I started looking this up when I hear of the price increases in Pattaya during this "high season". This price increases does not seem right to me for a country with Thailand's economy. I could not imagine that thaimen were paying 2000 for a 30 minutes in a room in a bar.[/QUOTE]This tends to happen when you have foreigners with a bunch of money compared to the local economy. They are not worried about what things actually cost locally; they only see that it is cheaper than back home. If you are not paying the inflated price given to foreigners and are able to negotiate a more normal price, then they will say well your girl is ugly. [B]This happens in every thread on ISG.[/B].
I paid less for a round trip plane ticket to Samui the other day (5,396 for 2 people) than most of these guys are giving chicks for a couple of hours, so logically something is off.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2800448]I can guarantee you that it is not. If you don't believe me then start google for sideline webpages. There is plenty of info out there. Some of this girls work through an agency but some are freelancers that work from a hotel room or their own apartment. I started looking this up when I hear of the price increases in Pattaya during this "high season". This price increases does not seem right to me for a country with Thailand's economy. I could not imagine that thaimen were paying 2000 for a 30 minutes in a room in a bar. Its not the prices of countries that has a GDP / capita of 7000 USD. I was there summer 22 and mostly kept my costs down. Was at soi 6 and mostly paid 1000. But already then I noticed that some girls wanting to push up the prices. One laughable example was a women on beach road in her mid 30's asking for 1500 baht. I know that she had been asking for 1000 before covid. I was asked in one bar for 2000 for an average looking younger girl, that's for a session in one of the bars room. Add and additional barfine and you are above 60 euro. That's what you pay in some places in western European countries with much higher income and price levels. People are being routinely asked for double of what the women would be asking a thaiman for. No way a 35 year old gets 1500 for ST. Some average looking women in Bangkok are asking for even more than that.
I will post a picture from a twitterpost I found. I saw that it is a picture form a gogo bar and she was asking 1300 for a visit to her place. I asked her if its 3000+1500 for tourist but 1300 for thaimen, she just said "yes". Thats a nice welcoming attitude is it not?[/QUOTE]Actually, there are a lot of bargirls who would fuck a Thai man for free. They just need time and a room.
It's the logistics that are stopping them.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2800568]I went to Walking Street last week.[/QUOTE]I went to Walking Street last week too. I have never seen so many motorbikes parked there. I had to end up stealing a spot. And the Arabs were not even there with it being Ramadan. When they come back it will be even more packed.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2800448]I can guarantee you that it is not. If you don't believe me then start google for sideline webpages. There is plenty of info out there. Some of this girls work through an agency but some are freelancers that work from a hotel room or their own apartment. I started looking this up when I hear of the price increases in Pattaya during this "high season". This price increases does not seem right to me for a country with Thailand's economy. I could not imagine that thaimen were paying 2000 for a 30 minutes in a room in a bar. Its not the prices of countries that has a GDP / capita of 7000 USD. I was there summer 22 and mostly kept my costs down. Was at soi 6 and mostly paid 1000. But already then I noticed that some girls wanting to push up the prices. One laughable example was a women on beach road in her mid 30's asking for 1500 baht. I know that she had been asking for 1000 before covid. I was asked in one bar for 2000 for an average looking younger girl, that's for a session in one of the bars room. Add and additional barfine and you are above 60 euro. That's what you pay in some places in western European countries with much higher income and price levels. People are being routinely asked for double of what the women would be asking a thaiman for. No way a 35 year old gets 1500 for ST. Some average looking women in Bangkok are asking for even more than that.
I will post a picture from a twitterpost I found. I saw that it is a picture form a gogo bar and she was asking 1300 for a visit to her place. I asked her if its 3000+1500 for tourist but 1300 for thaimen, she just said "yes". Thats a nice welcoming attitude is it not?[/QUOTE]It's not about being a local or a tourist it's just a different business model than the bars. In the bars their job is to sell drinks not to have sex with you. That's the reason why pinup girls won't barfine before you buy them 5 drinks. They might have a room upstairs and give you the illusion that they will fuck you if you buy enough drinks like in soi 6 but there is not guarantee they ever will.
What girls on sideline do is they have their own room, usually in the middle of nowhere and have guys come over for 10-15 minutes and basically cum and go. That way they can see 10 guys or more in one day and if each pay 1300 that's 13 k. There has been many reports on foreigners using sideline successfully but tbh its not something I'm interested in.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2800590]Actually, there are a lot of bargirls who would fuck a Thai man for free. They just need time and a room.
It's the logistics that are stopping them.[/QUOTE]You make it sound like most bargirls will fuck any thaiman for free just for the fun of it. Come on. It has nothing to do with asking lower prices from Thais.
[QUOTE=BroComplex;2800657]It's not about being a local or a tourist it's just a different business model than the bars. In the bars their job is to sell drinks not to have sex with you. That's the reason why pinup girls won't barfine before you buy them 5 drinks. They might have a room upstairs and give you the illusion that they will fuck you if you buy enough drinks like in soi 6 but there is not guarantee they ever will.
What girls on sideline do is they have their own room, usually in the middle of nowhere and have guys come over for 10-15 minutes and basically cum and go. That way they can see 10 guys or more in one day and if each pay 1300 that's 13 k. There has been many reports on foreigners using sideline successfully but tbh its not something I'm interested in.[/QUOTE]I don't really see why the product should be priced at more than double the price just because its being sold in a different shop. And its 1500 for an hour for most good looking sidelines. 30 minutes is mostly 1000 baht.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2800568]I went to Walking Street last week.
Skyfall was crowded, Bacarra was jammed, I couldn't get into PinUp.
The new Windmill was jammed.
WS had lots of pedestrians, few Chinese.
Yes, some small bars are empty, but that was the case pre Covid.
Bolt is almost useless at night, too many customers..[/QUOTE]You make it sound like Pattaya is rocking and is crammed with visitors. But its not. There are several videos on youtube and others that witness that it is not. That a few places on WS is fulll of Koreans does not change that. Yes, there are guys coming there from Europe who will spend 5000 baht (160 euro) on a girl in Pattaya but many others will not travel that far for paying the same price as in Europe. No way.
And by the way I add some photos of 1500 baht girls that I have seen from twitter. As you can see its good looking chicks for 1500 on the Thai market. What I want to show is that prices for tourists are in many cases much higher than for the locals. It used to be lower but now its been tuned up for years untill it just becomes a ripp off. Yes, some will still come but others will not. And Pattayas reputation will worsen. I just think that in the long run its just bad for almost everyone involved.
[QUOTE=BroComplex;2800657]What girls on sideline do is they have their own room, usually in the middle of nowhere and have guys come over for 10-15 minutes and basically cum and go. That way they can see 10 guys or more in one day and if each pay 1300 that's 13 k. There has been many reports on foreigners using sideline successfully but tbh its not something I'm interested in.[/QUOTE]"Sideline" is a term the bargirls use in this context. I took it to mean "freelancer", but it seems to have a different meaning.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2800448]I could not imagine that thaimen were paying 2000 for a 30 minutes in a room in a bar.[/QUOTE]I think you're wrong, a lot of them would spend big bucks on girls or just on partying and booze, maybe not 2 K for 30 minutes but definitely 1.5 K for 1 shot.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2800448] Was at soi 6 and mostly paid 1000. But already then I noticed that some girls wanting to push up the prices.[/QUOTE]Soi6 is not one price for all, any girl can charge whatever she wants to whoever she wants and it's not something new.
I was in one bar in 2011 drinking with a girl that I met earlier in Insomnia (I didn't take any girls from there but that girl was working in soi6). There was a cute an slim Cambodian girl working in that same bar, a Japanese guy entered and asked her price fotr ST, she said 3000 baht, the guy accepted and they moved immediately.
2011 , soi6 , 3000 baht. So where is the increase of price when you still paid 1000 in late 2022?
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2800448]I was asked in one bar for 2000 for an average looking younger girl, that's for a session in one of the bars room. Add and additional barfine and you are above 60 euro.
[/QUOTE]Yep you'll be short of 50 or 60 euros in these bars if you use the ST room + have a few drinks but you cannot compare these experiences with the sideline bordellos, these are more to be compared with some massage shops in my opinion.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2800448]I will post a picture from a twitterpost I found. I saw that it is a picture form a gogo bar and she was asking 1300 for a visit to her place. I asked her if its 3000+1500 for tourist but 1300 for thaimen, she just said "yes". Thats a nice welcoming attitude is it not?[/QUOTE]If you are the person that texted her these messages in Thai, no wonder she wanted to stop talking with you abruptly.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2800568]Pent up demand plus lower airfare prices = a ton of customers in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Lower airfare prices? Depends for who.
I bought a ticket in mid-January for end of next month and paid 200 euros cheaper (only) than what I paid in November but that's because I bought it 3 month and half earlier.
I checked the current prices, if I bought it now I would pay just 100 Euros less than what I paid in Nov.
My two cents from being in Pattaya again now and this only for a couple of days so far:
Air fare might have come down but was still nosebleed compared to before Corona given the time of the year.
Some hotels seem to be sold out during the weekends but are available for good prices otherwise.
In Soi6 the girls still tend to come up with any quote you can imagine. When I innocently ask them how much they want, they'll come up with prices from 1000 to 3000 bath. Most seem keen on 1500.1200 or sometimes 1000 works with some. Given the comments from a countrymen I met here, I must have been lucky so far with just choosing a girl and not so much the place that I always had a hot shower and a nice room. I never barfined any Soi6 girl so far, I only take them up to their room. All accepted to be taken up immediately, one still got a drink first. One lady (she looked a lot younger but was already in her mid thirties) pulled out a small Deo cap sized vibrator and stimulated herself to a ton of orgasms. We spent an hour or so together in the room. When I was done, too, I have her 1300 and she wanted 200 more because we spent so much time up there. I thought that we only spent "so much time" due to her toy and for her pleasure, and that one hour should still be fine for an ST but she was fun in the room (though more for her than for me) and I didn't want a sad face there over 200 bath. For another girl in some bar closer to the beach where the girls wear red tops (if I remember correctly. Things get blurry here for me quickly), I tried my luck without any negotiations again and simply looked at the girl, pointed upstairs, then took her to the cashier and repeated the process. When I put 2 x 1000 bath notes on the counter, 600 bath came back. So, 1000 still seems to be the "true" rate. At least in some places. When I tried the same approach in a bar close to the 2nd Road, I was not lucky: the cashier told me to negotiate the price with the girl first.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2800661]I don't really see why the product should be priced at more than double the price just because its being sold in a different shop.[/QUOTE]It is called price discrimination. "Price discrimination is a microeconomic pricing strategy where identical or largely similar goods or services are sold at different prices by the same provider in different market segments. ".
It is a normal business strategy. That is why it is funny when people swear you purchased something inferior just because you paid less than they did. Same chick costing more in a gogo than in a disco is just normal business. But many ISGers think there is no way quality widgets will be sold at shop A for 500 when they can sell them at shop "be" for 1000 baht. That is business folks.
I was in Samui at the market the other day and saw a pyramid incense burner that I wanted. Dude told me 500 baht. The next day I sent my girl over to ask about them while I hid out of view. She came back and said the guy said he would sell it to her for 700 baht but usually charges foreigners 1200 baht because he imports them from Malaysia. I said I do not know about that bullshit. Let me look on Lazada. There it was 209 baht so I bought it from there. Probably one of the rare times a Thai will be given a higher price than a foreigner around here.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2800661]You make it sound like most bargirls will fuck any thaiman for free just for the fun of it. Come on. It has nothing to do with asking lower prices from Thais.
I don't really see why the product should be priced at more than double the price just because its being sold in a different shop. And its 1500 for an hour for most good looking sidelines. 30 minutes is mostly 1000 baht.
You make it sound like Pattaya is rocking and is crammed with visitors. But its not. There are several videos on youtube and others that witness that it is not. That a few places on WS is fulll of Koreans does not change that. Yes, there are guys coming there from Europe who will spend 5000 baht (160 euro) on a girl in Pattaya but many others will not travel that far for paying the same price as in Europe. No way.
And by the way I add some photos of 1500 baht girls that I have seen from twitter. As you can see its good looking chicks for 1500 on the Thai market. What I want to show is that prices for tourists are in many cases much higher than for the locals. It used to be lower but now its been tuned up for years untill it just becomes a ripp off. Yes, some will still come but others will not. And Pattayas reputation will worsen. I just think that in the long run its just bad for almost everyone involved.[/QUOTE]To be clear, Pattaya is not as crowded as the peak of holiday season.
On the other hand, it is much more crowded than at this time of year, compared with the past.
As for ladies going with Thai men, this is Pattaya, where there is a shortage of Thai men, due to the large numbers of bargirls who come to Pattaya without their husbands.
Also, a substantial number of Thai males in Pattaya are ladyboys or gay boys (although many Thai men working that side of the street are gay for pay).
Obviously, young Thai men are at a premium.
To give you some perspective, I ran across the Facebook page of some chunky Thai moto driver in Pattaya. He had 1000's of lady Facebook friends and his account was swarming with comments from ladies.
And everyone knows that many bargirls go with Tomboys. Often Tomboys fill the void when there aren't enough men.
I have never heard of Thai ladies in Pattaya who work room for 30 minutes with Thai men. It doesn't mean there is no such thing, I just haven't heard about it. If that is what "working sideline" means, its new to me.
Of course, I know about Beach Road ladies who go with South Asians in groups for 500 a pop. So, they could go with Thai men, too, but I have never seen a Thai man pick up a lady on Beach Road.
I would be more impressed with the Twitter ladies if their posts were in Thai.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2800661]You make it sound like most bargirls will fuck any thaiman for free just for the fun of it. Come on. It has nothing to do with asking lower prices from Thais.
I don't really see why the product should be priced at more than double the price just because its being sold in a different shop. And its 1500 for an hour for most good looking sidelines. 30 minutes is mostly 1000 baht.
You make it sound like Pattaya is rocking and is crammed with visitors. But its not. There are several videos on youtube and others that witness that it is not. That a few places on WS is fulll of Koreans does not change that. Yes, there are guys coming there from Europe who will spend 5000 baht (160 euro) on a girl in Pattaya but many others will not travel that far for paying the same price as in Europe. No way.
And by the way I add some photos of 1500 baht girls that I have seen from twitter. As you can see its good looking chicks for 1500 on the Thai market. What I want to show is that prices for tourists are in many cases much higher than for the locals. It used to be lower but now its been tuned up for years untill it just becomes a ripp off. Yes, some will still come but others will not. And Pattayas reputation will worsen. I just think that in the long run its just bad for almost everyone involved.[/QUOTE]Is anyone else wondering about the Validity of Me Ex posts. LOL.
He sees things that aren't there.
Kind of like that Cheap Charlie you Tuber. That guy Delusional as can be.
No offense Explorer.
I'll take all 4 in the first picture and the last. Will pass second and third. 1500 is ok for these IMO. At KL that is true for all cities and countries. Locals bang chicks cheaper any day, WG's find it easy to lure tourists & foreigners as they are always struggling with time unless he is a seasoned fucker (well travelled). Hehehehe.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2800661]You make it sound like most bargirls will fuck any thaiman for free just for the fun of it. Come on. It has nothing to do with asking lower prices from Thais.
And by the way I add some photos of 1500 baht girls that I have seen from twitter. As you can see its good looking chicks for 1500 on the Thai market. What I want to show is that prices for tourists are in many cases much higher than for the locals. It used to be lower but now its been tuned up for years untill it just becomes a ripp off. Yes, some will still come but others will not. And Pattayas reputation will worsen. I just think that in the long run its just bad for almost everyone involved.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2800873]I would be more impressed with the Twitter ladies if their posts were in Thai.[/QUOTE]I used google chromes inbuilt translation.
[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2800899]Is anyone else wondering about the Validity of Me Ex posts. LOL.
He sees things that aren't there.
Kind of like that Cheap Charlie you Tuber. That guy Delusional as can be.
No offense Explorer.[/QUOTE]Cheap charlie is a good example of taking anything the so called Thailand / Pattaya experts say with a grain of salt. Yes many are delusional.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2800661]You make it sound like most bargirls will fuck any thaiman for free just for the fun of it. Come on. It has nothing to do with asking lower prices from Thais.
I don't really see why the product should be priced at more than double the price just because its being sold in a different shop. And its 1500 for an hour for most good looking sidelines. 30 minutes is mostly 1000 baht.
You make it sound like Pattaya is rocking and is crammed with visitors. But its not. There are several videos on youtube and others that witness that it is not. That a few places on WS is fulll of Koreans does not change that. Yes, there are guys coming there from Europe who will spend 5000 baht (160 euro) on a girl in Pattaya but many others will not travel that far for paying the same price as in Europe. No way.
And by the way I add some photos of 1500 baht girls that I have seen from twitter. As you can see its good looking chicks for 1500 on the Thai market. What I want to show is that prices for tourists are in many cases much higher than for the locals. It used to be lower but now its been tuned up for years untill it just becomes a ripp off. Yes, some will still come but others will not. And Pattayas reputation will worsen. I just think that in the long run its just bad for almost everyone involved.[/QUOTE]Is there a hashtag or specific search term to find these Twitter girls?
[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2800899]Is anyone else wondering about the Validity of Me Ex posts. LOL.
He sees things that aren't there.
Kind of like that Cheap Charlie you Tuber. That guy Delusional as can be.
No offense Explorer.[/QUOTE]He is just a waste of bandwidth, totally useless to the forum.
[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2800899]Is anyone else wondering about the Validity of Me Ex posts. LOL.
He sees things that aren't there.
Kind of like that Cheap Charlie you Tuber. That guy Delusional as can be.
No offense Explorer.[/QUOTE]There's a lot of narcissists on this site and I've had the (dis) pleasure of meeting a few.
As a public service, I researched the term "sideline", as in sideline girl.
The strict definition is a lady who works bar without a salary.
Basically, a freelancer who works bar.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2800696]I think you're wrong, a lot of them would spend big bucks on girls or just on partying and booze, maybe not 2 K for 30 minutes but definitely
[/QUOTE]Thai bars operates differently than Farang bars. The customer typically buys a bottle and tips a lady for drinking with him, like a KTV. There is no bar fine. The lady generally can't leave the bar during her shift.
If the customer wants to go with the lady, they make arrangements.
This is how a Thai bar usually works. You may find exceptions.
The Story of Panda.
Note: This is Part 2. If you have not read Part 1 yet, then please do so. You will not comprehend Part 2 without reading Part 1 first. Part 1 was posted about a month ago.
Day 7 - My last day in Pattaya (The next day).
So I do not make it to Day 7 boom boom free. I do not like early barfines. That would also turn out to be a big mistake. I go barhopping alone in LK Metro. Then, I go to Panda's bar at around 10 pm. The place is busy tonight. I take a seat and immediately across from me I see Panda sitting with a customer. I do not like the guy already. His face is all red from consuming alcohol. He's smoking a cigarette, blowing smoke in Panda's face. He's groping and poking her everywhere, in addition to sticking his nicotine-laced tongue in her mouth. And Panda is sitting there all defenseless. She keeps looking at me almost as if she is asking me to save her. While I'm not Captain Save a Ho, I really do want to biatch slap the fellow. I can tell the guy is trying really hard to barfine her. I want to go over to him and say, "You NO fuck 18 year old Thai girl tonight. You crazy? You want to go Thai prison? I fuck 18 year old Thai girl tonight. AGAIN!
The mamasan comes over to me and asks a lot of questions about Panda's performance the previous night. Just like I thought, I really am Panda's first ever barfine. She asks me if I want to barfine Panda again tonight. I tell her yes. Then, she says she will ask Panda. I tell her no need to ask her. I already know that Panda wants to be with me tonight. Nevertheless, she goes to Panda and asks her. The mamasan returns and says wait 10 minutes. Panda will come to me soon. The mamasan keeps saying wait 10 minutes every 10 minutes. About an hour later, Panda comes and sits next to me. I get her a drink. Then, about 5 minutes later, the mamasan comes and says, "Sorry, the other customer bought 5 drinks for Panda. She has to sit with him," and whisks Panda away to him. I know what the mamasan is doing. While exploiting Panda, the mamasan is milking both the crazy drunk guy and me for lady drinks. Panda has no idea what's going on. She looks dazed and confused.
In the end, I think the crazy guy bought more than three dozen drinks in total for Panda from whenever his drinking session with Panda started. Perhaps even more than three dozen because I end up waiting another hour for Panda. Not a smart idea to waste precious time on a last night in Pattaya. While waiting, the mamasan has another girl sit with me. I never tell them it is my last night. But somehow, the mamasan seems to know and is trying to squeeze every penny and dime out of me.
Finally Panda finishes her drinks with the crazy guy. The guy leaves in defeat. I may have won the barfine battle with the guy, but maybe I'm the idiot for waiting 2 hours for a bargirl I barely know, on my last night. Anyway, my night is ruined. It can't get any worse. Panda looks exhausted, half-drunk, and disoriented, not the pristine and vibrant girl I saw the previous night. Thank you, crazy guy for ruining my night. I hope your empty wallet is happy. Actually, good luck explaining to your lovely wife why you have a huge transaction charged to your credit card in Pattaya, of all places. (The guy paid with his credit card.) I tell Panda to get changed. The mamasan brings my bill. It is huge. 3,825 Baht. And that is just to get Panda out of the bar. Yeap, I knew the mamasan was milking both me and the other guy. There are 5 drinks for Panda when I only bought her 2, like the previous night. Then 2 for the other girl who sat with me and 2 for the mamasan. I think I could have told her to take the 3 additional drinks for Panda off the bill. But I just let it slide because I just want to leave the nonsense of the bar. Strangely, the mamasan is acting as the waiter. There is a reason why. There always is. I give her 4,000 Baht and she brings back the change on a money tray. As I grab the change, the mamasan tries to take it from my hand. I swat her hand away and almost say to her, "Go fuck yourself. " She is evil as hell. The worst mamasan I've ever encountered. Later I would learn from Panda that the mamasan lead the other guy on. Apparently, the mamasan said to him, "Keep buying her drinks. Maybe she will go barfine with you. ".
Panda comes out from the dressing room and we leave. I say nothing to the mamasan. She seems pissed I didn't let her keep the change. She is supposed to say thank you and good night to me. But she knows I will never be back.
Panda and I head back to my hotel. While Panda seems exhausted, there is also the expression of relief and security on her face. Maybe she really likes me. But it also could be just in my imagination. On the way to the hotel, there is a pancake street vendor. Panda stops in front of the vendor and just stares silently at the pancake the lady is making. I ask her how much. It's 50 Baht. I tell her two please. Good thing I did not give the change to the mamasan. I use the 100 Baht bill leftover to buy 2 pancakes.
After eating the pancakes in the room, Panda heads straight for the shower. She is in there forever. Maybe she is trying to scrape off the stench of the crazy guy from her skin. I already know what's going to happen. After Panda, I'm going to take a shower, and when I get out, Panda will be fast asleep. Any other girl, I would have put a condom on and started fucking the girl right away, asleep or not. But I cannot do that to Panda. I watch her sleep for a few minutes and eventually I also fall asleep.
"STOP TOUCHING HER. YOU FUCKING COCKSUCKER!
Apparently, I have a nasty nightmare where the crazy guy from the bar appears in my dream. So I yell at him at the top of my lungs. This awakes Panda and she is shocked to see me yell obscenities. I grab my cellphone and explain to her that the crazy guy appeared in my dream. So I yelled at him.
We end up just looking at each other for a few minutes. Then, Panda gently grabs my cock and starts to stroke it. I tell her I will go wash because I want a blowjob. After a few minutes of her sucking on my dick, I put a condom on, although this is the only time I ever feel the slight urge to bareback a girl in Thailand. Again I cannot get it inside her pussy. On the third try I succeed. I need her to spread her legs as wide as possible. And I need to enter at a certain angle and use a decent amount of force to get it inside. That is what I learned after the two fucks last night. I manage to come this time since the last come was 24 hours ago with Panda. But my pelvic area is starting to hurt a lot. I don't think I can fuck her again tonight. And it looks like Panda wants to leave also. I know why. The ladyboy probably texted her to come home quickly. Great. I have the crazy drunk guy ruining my night at the beginning and then I have the ladyboy ruining my night at the end. Couldn't get any worse.
I accompany Panda to the reception so that she can retrieve her passport. Then, while it is not my intention to meet the ladyboy, I end up grabbing Panda's hand and we start walking towards the 7-11 nearby. When we reach the 7-11, the ladyboy is already standing outside. I know an angry and jealous ladyboy when I see one. Don't worry ladyboy man. I'm not too fond of you either. It is obvious the ladyboy is unemployed. He shows up everywhere and at any time. Panda is his meal ticket. The ladyboy probably wants to stab me in the heart for fucking his girl. But I do not think Panda sees the ladyboy as a romantic partner because during this whole time Panda has both her arms wrapped around me in an affectionate embrace. Panda says she's going to buy the ladyboy dinner / breakfast at 6 am because the ladyboy just got dumped by his partner. Sure, go ahead. Buy him dinner with my money. I don't mind at all. But do not feed him alcohol for he will become violent.
They leave in a Bolt or a Grab taxi and I have my freedom back.
Occasionally, Panda sends me an "I miss you" text. While I do want to see her again, I'm not sure it is a good idea with the ladyboy lurking in the background all the time.
THE END.
Part 3 (Abridged version): A few months later, which is actually this month, I end up meeting Panda again. I text her and she comes to my hotel at around midnight. There is no need to write Part 3 in detail because it can be summarized in one sentence. "It was a huge disappointment. " It always ends badly in Pattaya. Panda is now just another bargirl who hates being a bargirl. That is a recipe for disaster for us mongers. She says she will quit soon. That's what they all say. I wish her good luck. Maybe, never say never. But Panda will probably never text me again. And I will also never see her again. That is pefectly fine with me.
Concerning those Thai ladies on Twitter, a short name followed by a string of numbers is an indicator of a Russian bot. I definitely would not give them any personal information or money.
[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2800899]Is anyone else wondering about the Validity of Me Ex posts. LOL.
He sees things that aren't there.
No offense Explorer.[/QUOTE]Your post would be much more useful if you explained what I posted about that "isn't there".
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2801219]The Story of Panda.
Note: This is Part 2. If you have not read Part 1 yet, then please do so. You will not comprehend Part 2 without reading Part 1 first. Part 1 was posted about a month ago.
Part 3 (Abridged version): A few months later, which is actually this month, I end up meeting Panda again. I text her and she comes to my hotel at around midnight. There is no need to write Part 3 in detail because it can be summarized in one sentence. "It was a huge disappointment. " It always ends badly in Pattaya. Panda is now just another bargirl who hates being a bargirl. That is a recipe for disaster for us mongers. She says she will quit soon. That's what they all say. I wish her good luck. Maybe, never say never. But Panda will probably never text me again. And I will also never see her again. That is pefectly fine with me.[/QUOTE]Regardless of the country the same situation always happens. I haven't nailed it down yet, but somewhere between 6 months and a year they become tainted.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2801219]While I'm not Captain Save a Ho, I really do want to biatch slap the fellow. I can tell the guy is trying really hard to barfine her. I want to go over to him and say, "You NO fuck 18 year old Thai girl tonight. You crazy? You want to go Thai prison? I fuck 18 year old Thai girl tonight. AGAIN!
[/QUOTE]All 6 of you mfs are going to be in a Thai prison since you have to be 20 years old to work in a bar here!
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2801219]The Story of Panda.[/QUOTE]Dang, good read. Glad to see that it all worked out in the end.
On my trip in December I was tipped off on some farm fresh in LK Metro. Pretty sure I found them, but they didn't quite stand out that much more than the girl who jumped me as soon as I walked in.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2801219]The Story of Panda.
Note: This is Part 2. If you have not read Part 1 yet, then please do so. You will not comprehend Part 2 without reading Part 1 first. Part 1 was posted about a month ago.
Day 7 - My last day in Pattaya (The next day).
So I do not make it to Day 7 boom boom free. I do not like early barfines. That would also turn out to be a big mistake. I go barhopping alone in LK Metro. Then, I go to Panda's bar at around 10 pm. The place is busy tonight. I take a seat and immediately across from me I see Panda sitting with a customer. I do not like the guy already. His face is all red from consuming alcohol. He's smoking a cigarette, blowing smoke in Panda's face. He's groping and poking her everywhere, in addition to sticking his nicotine-laced tongue in her mouth. And Panda is sitting there all defenseless. She keeps looking at me almost as if she is asking me to save her. While I'm not Captain Save a Ho, I really do want to biatch slap the fellow. I can tell the guy is trying really hard to barfine her. I want to go over to him and say, "You NO fuck 18 year old Thai girl tonight. You crazy? You want to go Thai prison? I fuck 18 year old Thai girl tonight. AGAIN!
The mamasan comes over to me and asks a lot of questions about Panda's performance the previous night. Just like I thought, I really am Panda's first ever barfine. She asks me if I want to barfine Panda again tonight. I tell her yes. Then, she says she will ask Panda. I tell her no need to ask her. I already know that Panda wants to be with me tonight. Nevertheless, she goes to Panda and asks her. The mamasan returns and says wait 10 minutes. Panda will come to me soon. The mamasan keeps saying wait 10 minutes every 10 minutes. About an hour later, Panda comes and sits next to me. I get her a drink. Then, about 5 minutes later, the mamasan comes and says, "Sorry, the other customer bought 5 drinks for Panda. She has to sit with him," and whisks Panda away to him. I know what the mamasan is doing. While exploiting Panda, the mamasan is milking both the crazy drunk guy and me for lady drinks. Panda has no idea what's going on. She looks dazed and confused.
In the end, I think the crazy guy bought more than three dozen drinks in total for Panda from whenever his drinking session with Panda started. Perhaps even more than three dozen because I end up waiting another hour for Panda. Not a smart idea to waste precious time on a last night in Pattaya. While waiting, the mamasan has another girl sit with me. I never tell them it is my last night. But somehow, the mamasan seems to know and is trying to squeeze every penny and dime out of me.
Finally Panda finishes her drinks with the crazy guy. The guy leaves in defeat. I may have won the barfine battle with the guy, but maybe I'm the idiot for waiting 2 hours for a bargirl I barely know, on my last night. Anyway, my night is ruined. It can't get any worse. Panda looks exhausted, half-drunk, and disoriented, not the pristine and vibrant girl I saw the previous night. Thank you, crazy guy for ruining my night. I hope your empty wallet is happy. Actually, good luck explaining to your lovely wife why you have a huge transaction charged to your credit card in Pattaya, of all places. (The guy paid with his credit card.) I tell Panda to get changed. The mamasan brings my bill. It is huge. 3,825 Baht. And that is just to get Panda out of the bar. Yeap, I knew the mamasan was milking both me and the other guy. There are 5 drinks for Panda when I only bought her 2, like the previous night. Then 2 for the other girl who sat with me and 2 for the mamasan. I think I could have told her to take the 3 additional drinks for Panda off the bill. But I just let it slide because I just want to leave the nonsense of the bar. Strangely, the mamasan is acting as the waiter. There is a reason why. There always is. I give her 4,000 Baht and she brings back the change on a money tray. As I grab the change, the mamasan tries to take it from my hand. I swat her hand away and almost say to her, "Go fuck yourself. " She is evil as hell. The worst mamasan I've ever encountered. Later I would learn from Panda that the mamasan lead the other guy on. Apparently, the mamasan said to him, "Keep buying her drinks. Maybe she will go barfine with you. ".
Panda comes out from the dressing room and we leave. I say nothing to the mamasan. She seems pissed I didn't let her keep the change. She is supposed to say thank you and good night to me. But she knows I will never be back.
Panda and I head back to my hotel. While Panda seems exhausted, there is also the expression of relief and security on her face. Maybe she really likes me. But it also could be just in my imagination. On the way to the hotel, there is a pancake street vendor. Panda stops in front of the vendor and just stares silently at the pancake the lady is making. I ask her how much. It's 50 Baht. I tell her two please. Good thing I did not give the change to the mamasan. I use the 100 Baht bill leftover to buy 2 pancakes.
After eating the pancakes in the room, Panda heads straight for the shower. She is in there forever. Maybe she is trying to scrape off the stench of the crazy guy from her skin. I already know what's going to happen. After Panda, I'm going to take a shower, and when I get out, Panda will be fast asleep. Any other girl, I would have put a condom on and started fucking the girl right away, asleep or not. But I cannot do that to Panda. I watch her sleep for a few minutes and eventually I also fall asleep.
"STOP TOUCHING HER. YOU FUCKING COCKSUCKER!
Apparently, I have a nasty nightmare where the crazy guy from the bar appears in my dream. So I yell at him at the top of my lungs. This awakes Panda and she is shocked to see me yell obscenities. I grab my cellphone and explain to her that the crazy guy appeared in my dream. So I yelled at him.
We end up just looking at each other for a few minutes. Then, Panda gently grabs my cock and starts to stroke it. I tell her I will go wash because I want a blowjob. After a few minutes of her sucking on my dick, I put a condom on, although this is the only time I ever feel the slight urge to bareback a girl in Thailand. Again I cannot get it inside her pussy. On the third try I succeed. I need her to spread her legs as wide as possible. And I need to enter at a certain angle and use a decent amount of force to get it inside. That is what I learned after the two fucks last night. I manage to come this time since the last come was 24 hours ago with Panda. But my pelvic area is starting to hurt a lot. I don't think I can fuck her again tonight. And it looks like Panda wants to leave also. I know why. The ladyboy probably texted her to come home quickly. Great. I have the crazy drunk guy ruining my night at the beginning and then I have the ladyboy ruining my night at the end. Couldn't get any worse.
I accompany Panda to the reception so that she can retrieve her passport. Then, while it is not my intention to meet the ladyboy, I end up grabbing Panda's hand and we start walking towards the 7-11 nearby. When we reach the 7-11, the ladyboy is already standing outside. I know an angry and jealous ladyboy when I see one. Don't worry ladyboy man. I'm not too fond of you either. It is obvious the ladyboy is unemployed. He shows up everywhere and at any time. Panda is his meal ticket. The ladyboy probably wants to stab me in the heart for fucking his girl. But I do not think Panda sees the ladyboy as a romantic partner because during this whole time Panda has both her arms wrapped around me in an affectionate embrace. Panda says she's going to buy the ladyboy dinner / breakfast at 6 am because the ladyboy just got dumped by his partner. Sure, go ahead. Buy him dinner with my money. I don't mind at all. But do not feed him alcohol for he will become violent.
They leave in a Bolt or a Grab taxi and I have my freedom back.
Occasionally, Panda sends me an "I miss you" text. While I do want to see her again, I'm not sure it is a good idea with the ladyboy lurking in the background all the time.
THE END.
Part 3 (Abridged version): A few months later, which is actually this month, I end up meeting Panda again. I text her and she comes to my hotel at around midnight. There is no need to write Part 3 in detail because it can be summarized in one sentence. "It was a huge disappointment. " It always ends badly in Pattaya. Panda is now just another bargirl who hates being a bargirl. That is a recipe for disaster for us mongers. She says she will quit soon. That's what they all say. I wish her good luck. Maybe, never say never. But Panda will probably never text me again. And I will also never see her again. That is pefectly fine with me.[/QUOTE]This is more like the Pattaya or Bangkok that I know and Love. These girls are working. Tough Job.
We are just Pawns. We are not their Lovers. They don't look at us to Pleasure them, one orgasm is one too much. No offense to you Sex Gods out there.
I'm not saying you can't have Fun but get real guys.
I notice when the money stops Flowing the Bargirl snarls start growing.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2801265]All 6 of you mfs are going to be in a Thai prison since you have to be at least 20 years old to work in a bar here![/QUOTE]You 1 mf are very wrong. They have to be at least 18 years old to WORK in a bar. But they have to be at least 20 years old to ENTER a bar as a customer. You live in Pattaya. You should know this.
One more data point about how crowded it is in Pattaya.
Before Covid, I took a photo of a really crowded baht bus during High Season. Because it was a rare sight.
Now I see similarly crowded baht busses all day long. And High Season is almost over.
I am in Suvarnaphumi airport now, and it's unbelievably crowded.
[QUOTE=Transporter;2801238]Regardless of the country the same situation always happens. I haven't nailed it down yet, but somewhere between 6 months and a year they become tainted.[/QUOTE]I surmise they become Tainted at 13 or so. Can you imagine being a femail in the Village. Yes I mean it in a not good way.
How does one prepare for servicing 400 pound Norwegian Man.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2801265]All 6 of you mfs are going to be in a Thai prison since you have to be 20 years old to work in a bar here![/QUOTE]Can work bar if 18 or 19, but cannot drink.
Can go with customer, no problem. No customer will go to the monkeyhouse for lady 18 or 19.
If have problem with lady 18 or 19, bar owner must pay police, not customer.
[QUOTE=Transporter;2801238]Regardless of the country the same situation always happens. I haven't nailed it down yet, but somewhere between 6 months and a year they become tainted.[/QUOTE]Most get tired of Farang customers who burn them with promises.
Keep reading and hearing about drink only girls in Soi 6.
I understand the bars had a tough time bringing girls in after the lock downs but it sounds like a good way to piss off customers and stopping repeat custom.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2801219]
I really do want to biatch slap the fellow. I can tell the guy is trying really hard to barfine her. I want to go over to him and say, "You NO fuck 18 year old Thai girl tonight. You crazy? You want to go Thai prison? I fuck 18 year old Thai girl tonight. AGAIN!
[/QUOTE]This is where I stopped reading.
[QUOTE=BroComplex;2801530]This is where I stopped reading.[/QUOTE]It would be helpful if you explained why instead of just making a cocky statement.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2801456]Keep reading and hearing about drink only girls in Soi 6.
I understand the bars had a tough time bringing girls in after the lock downs but it sounds like a good way to piss off customers and stopping repeat custom.[/QUOTE]I'm still a rookie (only two barfines), but all the times I went in to a bar, when I asked a girl to sit with me, I always asked if they barfine first. If not, I asked the mama / bartender to recommend a girl that barfines, then I buy her a drink.
Only time I didn't ask a girl if they barfined is if I'm recovering and don't have any intention for going upstairs. Happened twice, but I still asked the prettiest girl that caught my eye to sit with me and I bought her drinks.
I read over and over that people get burnt by drinks only girls. Just ask if they are drink only before you start buying them drinks. And if they say they barfine, but after 5 drinks or so they refuse, tell mama, if she doesn't fix it, pay your tab and walk.
Why's it difficult to be a little bit straight forward asking your intent before you break the bank? It's common sense, just be polite about it.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2801456]Keep reading and hearing about drink only girls in Soi 6.
I understand the bars had a tough time bringing girls in after the lock downs but it sounds like a good way to piss off customers and stopping repeat custom.[/QUOTE]You should go to Roxy Bar on Soi 6. They have at least two girls who are receiving foreign support via Western Union. I think there is at least one more. But she is being elusive to me.
These two girls are drinks only girls. If anyone managed to fuck them recently, then I will be in awe.
The first girl, Aoy, thinks she is number one in the house. A total gold-digger. I hope her boyfriend sees this and stops sending her money.
Monsieur Parlez-vous franais, she don't love you. Ouvre la porte.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2801531]It would be helpful if you explained why instead of just making a cocky statement.[/QUOTE]I'd say possibly because it could sound like the story was going down the route of a UA girl.
But I highly doubt that if that was going to be the case, you'd had gotten out of dodge quick, or just not post about it. Everything you posted (short or your thought on bribing the guard!) sounded like it was legal to me.
[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2801563]I'd say possibly because it could sound like the story was going down the route of a UA girl.
But I highly doubt that if that was going to be the case, you'd had gotten out of dodge quick, or just not post about it. Everything you posted (short or your thought on bribing the guard!) sounded like it was legal to me.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your input. But I'd rather hear from the MF himself. He seems to think that I or we are here to please him.
[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2801551]I read over and over that people get burnt by drinks only girls. Just ask if they are drink only before you start buying them drinks. And if they say they barfine, but after 5 drinks or so they refuse, tell mama, if she doesn't fix it, pay your tab and walk.[/QUOTE]Depending on where you are, there might be different bar rules. Some places allow girls to leave any time. Other places allow no bar fines before 24:00. Some places have a minimum drink requirement before leaving. Do your best to understand all the rules before you start spending money on lady drinks.
There has been much dissing posted about mamasans, but I've found it valuable that one go go mamasan knows me, likes me, and gives good recommendations who to bar fine and who to avoid. I will continue to tip that mama well.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2801600]Depending on where you are, there might be different bar rules. Some places allow girls to leave any time. Other places allow no bar fines before 24:00. Some places have a minimum drink requirement before leaving. Do your best to understand all the rules before you start spending money on lady drinks.
There has been much dissing posted about mamasans, but I've found it valuable that one go go mamasan knows me, likes me, and gives good recommendations who to bar fine and who to avoid. I will continue to tip that mama well.[/QUOTE]Yea, that's right, but you don't want to be 5 drinks in and the girl says she doesn't barfine.
Always tip the service staff. Mama included.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2801441]Can work bar if 18 or 19, but cannot drink. [/QUOTE]Many of the "ladydrinks" have little or no alcohol anyways. You are paying them for 20 minutes of grabass.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2801665]Many of the "ladydrinks" have little or no alcohol anyways. You are paying them for 20 minutes of grabass.[/QUOTE]What this boils down to is an 18 year old working bar gets Cola water drinks, not Sangsom water. Same same.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2801553]You should go to Roxy Bar on Soi 6. They have at least two girls who are receiving foreign support via Western Union. I think there is at least one more. But she is being elusive to me.
These two girls are drinks only girls. If anyone managed to fuck them recently, then I will be in awe.
The first girl, Aoy, thinks she is number one in the house. A total gold-digger. I hope her boyfriend sees this and stops sending her money.
Monsieur Parlez-vous franais, she don't love you. Ouvre la porte.[/QUOTE]You are part of the Problem by reference to the suitor as Boyfriend. Haha. Words matter.
Gild digger or not I don't get it from the Dummies point of view. No offense to members here who Support Bargirls.
I tipped a Girl 500 baht last night to feel a Boob. Good 3 seconds worth. Not under any circumstances do I think I'm more than a customer.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2801665]Many of the "ladydrinks" have little or no alcohol anyways. You are paying them for 20 minutes of grabass.[/QUOTE]Ladydrinks are not to GRabAsS. That's what short time is for.
Windmill is an outlier.
Early days of DeSiRe Soi 6 bar Livestream the girls drank real alcohol.
Wobbly as FKK. I though a few might die of alcohol poisoning.
I wonder if Brian Flowers had an epiphany Drunk Babes no good for nothing. And put a stop to Alcohol.
Now the girls drink and Nothing.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2801456]Keep reading and hearing about drink only girls in Soi 6.
I understand the bars had a tough time bringing girls in after the lock downs but it sounds like a good way to piss off customers and stopping repeat custom.[/QUOTE]Happened enough to me to quit on gogos and soi6. Nowadays all I do in pattaya is smoke weed and call TF girls over.
[QUOTE=BroComplex;2801823]Happened enough to me to quit on gogos and soi6. Nowadays all I do in pattaya is smoke weed and call TF girls over.[/QUOTE]Ah-ah, I went to Soi 6 a few time from Jomtien after downing an edible. Now I prefer to have girls come over. Being high on Soi 6 is ok as far as sex is concerned, but it entails a higher risk of traffic accident and losing my belongings. To make things worse, Bolt taxis do not come to 2nd road.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2801665]Many of the "ladydrinks" have little or no alcohol anyways.[/QUOTE]Legal age for drinking in Thailand is 20. That means 18 year old gogo girls can't have alcohol in their drinks. Easy way to figure out which girls say they're 18 and you know they're at least over 20 just by smelling their drink.
[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2801627]Always tip the service staff. Mama included.[/QUOTE]
Curious on what you feel is an appropriate tip to service staff is for a 460 baht drink tab? to mamasan if she brings you a girl that you eventually BF, assuming you haven't already bought mamasan a drink?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2801860]Curious on what you feel is an appropriate tip to service staff is for a 460 baht drink tab? to mamasan if she brings you a girl that you eventually BF, assuming you haven't already bought mamasan a drink?[/QUOTE]I tip about 20-30 baht to the server. I have only one mama that I trust to recommend girls and I tip her 200. So far she hasn't led me astray.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2801665]Many of the "ladydrinks" have little or no alcohol anyways. You are paying them for 20 minutes of grabass.[/QUOTE]1st of all these girls can't be drunk all the time. Thats unhealthy as fuck. So I can imagine they prefer non-alcohol or a watereddown mix drink.
Having said. I prefer to buy shots so then there is enough alcohol in the drink for sure LOL.
20 min grabass? Nah that's how we guys get a bad reputation. You don't "buy" anything for the 50-60 b she gets from that drink. Maybe the pleasure of her sitting with you and if you are lucky she might "grab" a bit (hoping to get another drink).
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2801860]Legal age for drinking in Thailand is 20. That means 18 year old gogo girls can't have alcohol in their drinks. Easy way to figure out which girls say they're 18 and you know they're at least over 20 just by smelling their drink.
Curious on what you feel is an appropriate tip to service staff is for a 460 baht drink tab? to mamasan if she brings you a girl that you eventually BF, assuming you haven't already bought mamasan a drink?[/QUOTE]In that case I would round to 500. Maybe another 100 if the mama helped me picking a girl, but I'd still round up. Not sure if that is right or not, but the only time I had a mama help was in a gogo on LKM, I bought her a drink.
[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2801907]1st of all these girls can't be drunk all the time. Thats unhealthy as fuck. So I can imagine they prefer non-alcohol or a watereddown mix drink.
Having said. I prefer to buy shots so then there is enough alcohol in the drink for sure LOL.
20 min grabass? Nah that's how we guys get a bad reputation. You don't "buy" anything for the 50-60 b she gets from that drink. Maybe the pleasure of her sitting with you and if you are lucky she might "grab" a bit (hoping to get another drink).[/QUOTE]Had an experience on WS about 10 years ago, my wingman was buying tequila shots for a couple girls. Turned out they were water. He nearly burnt that place down! What you buy isn't always what you get! Same can be said for the girl you buy, LOL.
[QUOTE=Nixonbd;2801940]Had an experience on WS about 10 years ago, my wingman was buying tequila shots for a couple girls. Turned out they were water. He nearly burnt that place down! What you buy isn't always what you get! Same can be said for the girl you buy, LOL.[/QUOTE]The Explorer trick for buying Tequila shots:
If you are buying Tequila for you and a lady, when the shots come, drink her shot.
[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2801907]1st of all these girls can't be drunk all the time. Thats unhealthy as fuck. So I can imagine they prefer non-alcohol or a watereddown mix drink.
Having said. I prefer to buy shots so then there is enough alcohol in the drink for sure LOL.
20 min grabass? Nah that's how we guys get a bad reputation. You don't "buy" anything for the 50-60 b she gets from that drink. Maybe the pleasure of her sitting with you and if you are lucky she might "grab" a bit (hoping to get another drink).[/QUOTE]Most bars have a special bottle of tequila flavored water for bargirls.
[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2801718]Ladydrinks are not to GRabAsS. That's what short time is for.
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[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2801907]20 min grabass? Nah that's how we guys get a bad reputation. You don't "buy" anything for the 50-60 b she gets from that drink. Maybe the pleasure of her sitting with you and if you are lucky she might "grab" a bit (hoping to get another drink).[/QUOTE]I'm not really sure when it got all Mormon choir boy and Yes M'Lady up in here but no way I'm going to be sitting on my hands like a nervous incel teenager when I buy a ladydrink. If a girl want's me to take her upstairs she's the one grinding her ass in my lap and putting my hands on her waist. I'm sort of astonished this has never happened to you guys. Maybe we need to go to Soi 6 together? If she is not initiating some sort of touch or allowing some by me- that's a hard pass my dawg. Not going to waste my time on a starfish. Obviously if you don't get that vibe from a girl you don't molest her, uh duh. But most of the time for me that's not the case- I don't pick girls that don't give me decent eye contact and show interest. I'm not buying lady drinks so I can play connect four, speak baby English and talk about nothing. Did you know there is an upstairs where hard core sex happens?
[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2801913]In that case I would round to 500. Maybe another 100 if the mama helped me picking a girl, but I'd still round up. Not sure if that is right or not, but the only time I had a mama help was in a gogo on LKM, I bought her a drink.[/QUOTE]I took a Mamasan to Dubai, if that helps.
[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2801717]You are part of the Problem by reference to the suitor as Boyfriend. Haha. Words matter.
Gild digger or not I don't get it from the Dummies point of view. No offense to members here who Support Bargirls.
I tipped a Girl 500 baht last night to feel a Boob. Good 3 seconds worth. Not under any circumstances do I think I'm more than a customer.[/QUOTE]In Thailand, he is her boyfriend. He is not her suitor. You don't know what you are talking about.
And you gave a girl 500 Baht to touch her breast? Are you bragging about this? It can be done with just a lady drink. Sometimes, it can even be done for free if you have game.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2802027]I'm not really sure when it got all Mormon choir boy and Yes M'Lady up in here but no way I'm going to be sitting on my hands like a nervous incel teenager when I buy a ladydrink. If a girl want's me to take her upstairs she's the one grinding her ass in my lap and putting my hands on her waist. I'm sort of astonished this has never happened to you guys. Maybe we need to go to Soi 6 together? If she is not initiating some sort of touch or allowing some by me- that's a hard pass my dawg. Not going to waste my time on a starfish. Obviously if you don't get that vibe from a girl you don't molest her, uh duh. But most of the time for me that's not the case- I don't pick girls that don't give me decent eye contact and show interest. I'm not buying lady drinks so I can play connect four, speak baby English and talk about nothing. Did you know there is an upstairs where hard core sex happens?[/QUOTE]I'll give these guys the benefit of the doubt and assume that they are just taking the piss or trolling.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2802031]I'll give these guys the benefit of the doubt and assume that they are just taking the piss or trolling.[/QUOTE]All you are saying is that you are more sedate on Soi 6.
I have seen all kinds of behavior by customers and ladies on Soi 6. The ladies will bump and grind, based on their level of intoxicacióand and need for money. So, lots of differing experiences by posters here.
This might be a long shot but I will be visiting Pattaya in a few weeks. Are there any Arab female Providers, independent or not? Not looking specifically for a Muslim girl, just someone with a Arabian look ie Persian, Iranian, Egyptian etc. Or recommend any mixed Thai girls that have that look? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2802041]All you are saying is that you are more sedate on Soi 6.
I have seen all kinds of behavior by customers and ladies on Soi 6. The ladies will bump and grind, based on their level of intoxicaciand and need for money. So, lots of differing experiences by posters here.[/QUOTE]I was referring to the dudes that were advocating for the hands-off approach. I definitely get down and dirty. Ready to rock out with my cock out if the mood at the bar is right!
[QUOTE=ParlorKing54;2802170]This might be a long shot but I will be visiting Pattaya in a few weeks. Are there any Arab female Providers, independent or not? Not looking specifically for a Muslim girl, just someone with a Arabian look ie Persian, Iranian, Egyptian etc. Or recommend any mixed Thai girls that have that look? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Never seen any in Pattaya in my life.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2802027]I'm not really sure when it got all Mormon choir boy and Yes M'Lady up in here but no way I'm going to be sitting on my hands like a nervous incel teenager when I buy a ladydrink. If a girl want's me to take her upstairs she's the one grinding her ass in my lap and putting my hands on her waist. I'm sort of astonished this has never happened to you guys. Maybe we need to go to Soi 6 together? If she is not initiating some sort of touch or allowing some by me- that's a hard pass my dawg. Not going to waste my time on a starfish. Obviously if you don't get that vibe from a girl you don't molest her, uh duh. But most of the time for me that's not the case- I don't pick girls that don't give me decent eye contact and show interest. I'm not buying lady drinks so I can play connect four, speak baby English and talk about nothing. Did you know there is an upstairs where hard core sex happens?[/QUOTE]It's the funniest thing to see old farangs sitting at bars playing connect four with the girls LOL. Oofy doofy looking dudes.
Personally, I don't even bother with drinks, just walk up to the front of the soi 6 bars, find one you find attractive, talk to her on the curb, if she gives good vibes, take her upstairs. No need to waste money on drinks or time on dumb, fake chit chat. Smash and dash. Pump and dump. The goofiest guys are the ones that spend all day and night just aimlessly sitting at bars.
[QUOTE=ParlorKing54;2802170]This might be a long shot but I will be visiting Pattaya in a few weeks. Are there any Arab female Providers, independent or not? Not looking specifically for a Muslim girl, just someone with a Arabian look ie Persian, Iranian, Egyptian etc. Or recommend any mixed Thai girls that have that look? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Never seen any.
[QUOTE=ParlorKing54;2802170] Not looking specifically for a Muslim girl, just someone with a Arabian look ie Persian, Iranian, Egyptian etc. Or recommend any mixed Thai girls that have that look? Thanks.[/QUOTE]There are tons of Thai chicks that fix themselves up to look like that. Just go to the Arab bars on Soi 16 behind Marine Plaza Hotel and find your habiti. Make sure to bring ear plugs for the loud music. I am like 200 meters from the area now waiting for a chick to come back from bringing her sister some food, so I will swing by and take some pictures. It is 3:30 am plus Ramadan so nobody is around right now. But after Ramadan the place will be back in full swing.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2802031]I'll give these guys the benefit of the doubt and assume that they are just taking the piss or trolling.[/QUOTE]Depends on the venue mate. I can imagine that in soi6 you can expect more than if you go to PinUp as an example. My previous post was about agogo's because I'm not a soi6 guy.
[QUOTE=Falcon95;2802029]In Thailand, he is her boyfriend. He is not her suitor. You don't know what you are talking about.[/QUOTE]A guy who sends money to a bargirl is a sponsor. She may call him her "boyfriend", but she may have several, plus a Thai husband.
[QUOTE=ParlorKing54;2802170]This might be a long shot but I will be visiting Pattaya in a few weeks. Are there any Arab female Providers, independent or not? Not looking specifically for a Muslim girl, just someone with a Arabian look ie Persian, Iranian, Egyptian etc. Or recommend any mixed Thai girls that have that look? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I found one last time I was there. She worked in a massage parlor on Soi Buakhao just north of the s-curve in the road. If I recall correctly it was the first massage parlor on the right hand (East) side of the road while heading north just past the curve. I have no idea whether she still works there, but I had a great time with her. She was very attractive; just a few pounds heavier than normal; she had an enormous set of natural boobs, and took great care of me. I hope you can find her.
[QUOTE=MartinFlevo;2802312]Depends on the venue mate. I can imagine that in soi6 you can expect more than if you go to PinUp as an example. My previous post was about agogo's because I'm not a soi6 guy.[/QUOTE]It's been ages since I have been to Pinup or any other gogo bar in Pattaya (or to Pattay itself for that matter). , But I do remember getting down (DFK, heavy petting, girl's top off) at a number of Gogos in Patts just a few years ago (pre covid). Maybe not at a place like Sensations, but DFK and some heavy petting at Baccara for sure. Not to mention that and a lot more at the Gogos off WS on LK Metro. I guess things have changed -- and not for the better.
I've been to BKK a few times in the last few months and did get some touchy-feely with girls at a Gogo on Cowboy (can't remember the name) and NEP (at Geisha).
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;2802344]It's been ages since I have been to Pinup or any other gogo bar in Pattaya (or to Pattay itself for that matter). , But I do remember getting down (DFK, heavy petting, girl's top off) at a number of Gogos in Patts just a few years ago (pre covid). Maybe not at a place like Sensations, but DFK and some heavy petting at Baccara for sure. Not to mention that and a lot more at the Gogos off WS on LK Metro. I guess things have changed -- and not for the better.
I've been to BKK a few times in the last few months and did get some touchy-feely with girls at a Gogo on Cowboy (can't remember the name) and NEP (at Geisha).[/QUOTE]Its any strip club, not thailand really. The girl gets into it or wants to put on a show or get more money and she'll get more action. BKK and Pattaya chicks will do whatever, but depends on the girl. I've seen plenty of stripper shit happen in various gogos pre and post covid. Now of course, here and there some clubs have slightly more private areas than others
Before Covid, there was extensive discussion here about the best gogo for action, and I believe the winner was Pandora in LK Metro.
Pattaya Songkran Update.
Songkran in Pattaya will start midnight of April 18 and end on April 19.
Songkran in rest of Thailand ends before April 18 and so, there will be a mad rush of out of town Thais coming over and taking over the hotels.
It's supposed to be very grand this year with music. As it is after a few years gap.
Officials decided to allow alcohol sales in stores (initially they were planning on a ban).
To further aggravate the mayhem. Thailand's biggest hip hop festival "Rolling Loud" will be in pattaya 13-15 with Cardi be, Chris Brown and Travis Scott.
Unlike a few wussies (joking), I am not scared of getting wet for a day or so. Bring it on.
I am going to get a water sprayer myself.
Hi everyone, I'm going to Pattaya in the summer. I'll be there for 2 weeks, I booked a very hotel close to Soi 6, I'm in my late twenties, I don't drink much, I'll be able to speak a few words of Thai by summer. I'm looking to fuck as much girls as possible, looking for quantity and good service above all else. After few days of reading here, reddit, and watching youtube. My current plan is:
- During night walk along soi6 and have fun with girls that show the most interest in providing a good service.
- During the day I plan to chill out in gentlemen's clubs in Bong Koch 8, and other BJ bars I find.
- Avoid all gogo bars. As far as I understand lady drinks, BF, ST, all combined are big premium for not so good service?
- Avoid walking street. Unless I want to party in clubs or find freelancers in clubs?
- Soi buakhoao, soi pothole, soi honey, soi diamond, LK market. It's all so confusing to me. What are intended customers for each.
Any recommendations for the first few days until I get the lay of the land?
[QUOTE=SwiftyTillWild;2802498]Hi everyone, I'm going to Pattaya in the summer. I'll be there for 2 weeks, I booked a very hotel close to Soi 6, I'm in my late twenties, I don't drink much, I'll be able to speak a few words of Thai by summer. I'm looking to fuck as much girls as possible, looking for quantity and good service above all else. After few days of reading here, reddit, and watching youtube. My current plan is:
- During night walk along soi6 and have fun with girls that show the most interest in providing a good service.
- During the day I plan to chill out in gentlemen's clubs in Bong Koch 8, and other BJ bars I find.
- Avoid all gogo bars. As far as I understand lady drinks, BF, ST, all combined are big premium for not so good service?
- Avoid walking street. Unless I want to party in clubs or find freelancers in clubs?
- Soi buakhoao, soi pothole, soi honey, soi diamond, LK market. It's all so confusing to me. What are intended customers for each.
Any recommendations for the first few days until I get the lay of the land? [/QUOTE]Don't stay near Soi 6, stay near Soi Buakhao. You can always hop on a baht bus and get there in 5 minutes. Other than the Soi 6 bars that's not an ideal place to be- close to the beach so all prices are higher. No strategic value.
All your avoids are correct. Good job on RTFF.
Soi Pothole area has some decent GC's and BB bars- Maggie Mays, etc. LK Metro has GoGo's that are less overpriced than walking street and some so so ST bars.
Off of Buakhao is Soi Boomerang which also has a handful of decent GC's.
Soi Honey is massage etc. I don't mess with it.
A good bet is to stay at Areca Lodge for a few days, get the lay of the land, and then move to something a little less expensive but still near- Vogue hotel, Harry's, Sutus Court. If you are intent on staying near Soi 6 try Pattaya Blue Sky.
As for mongering- I would start with the GC's in BongKot, Boomerang and near Pothole during the day (3-4 ish), then have a TF girl come over for ST- and if she flakes or afterwards, go to Soi Pothole or LK Metro. The next day substitute one of these options with Soi 6, and then rinse and repeat. You'll be good.
What month are you there?
[QUOTE=SplitPersona;2802451]Pattaya Songkran Update.
Songkran in Pattaya will start midnight of April 18 and end on April 19.
Songkran in rest of Thailand ends before April 18 and so, there will be a mad rush of out of town Thais coming over and taking over the hotels.
It's supposed to be very grand this year with music. As it is after a few years gap.
Officials decided to allow alcohol sales in stores (initially they were planning on a ban).
To further aggravate the mayhem. Thailand's biggest hip hop festival "Rolling Loud" will be in pattaya 13-15 with Cardi be, Chris Brown and Travis Scott.
Unlike a few wussies (joking), I am not scared of getting wet for a day or so. Bring it on.
I am going to get a water sprayer myself.[/QUOTE]WARNING!
IAll the years I lived here when it comes to Pattaya it isn't the same anywhere in the country from my experience or hearing even in Bangkok which is restricted to 3 days.
You mentioned the dates 13-15, the reason for the festival is when it starts inside Pattaya, particularly on Beach road and Second Rd. You will get soaked in that location. That weekend is the start it will continue on and off you do not know when and where but someone will be throwing water. The 18th is when it is all out throughout Pattaya's East and West sides, from Jomtien to Naklua same with Sukhumvit. They party it up at Bang Sean on the 18th, in the past the 19th, Sukhumvit led into Pattaya from Pattaya Nua all the way to Theppasit the road would stop and go.
If you miss those dates the last and final day is down south Bang Saray the 20th.
Good luck,
[QUOTE=SwiftyTillWild;2802498]Hi everyone, I'm going to Pattaya in the summer. I'll be there for 2 weeks, I booked a very hotel close to Soi 6, I'm in my late twenties, I don't drink much, I'll be able to speak a few words of Thai by summer. I'm looking to fuck as much girls as possible, looking for quantity and good service above all else. After few days of reading here, reddit, and watching youtube. My current plan is:
- During night walk along soi6 and have fun with girls that show the most interest in providing a good service.
- During the day I plan to chill out in gentlemen's clubs in Bong Koch 8, and other BJ bars I find.
- Avoid all gogo bars. As far as I understand lady drinks, BF, ST, all combined are big premium for not so good service?
- Avoid walking street. Unless I want to party in clubs or find freelancers in clubs?
- Soi buakhoao, soi pothole, soi honey, soi diamond, LK market. It's all so confusing to me. What are intended customers for each.
Any recommendations for the first few days until I get the lay of the land?[/QUOTE]Certainly, staying more centralized would be ideal as noted by Soi Buakhao. My suggestion is never to say no to things if you don't take the time, especially when you are right there you will never know to find out for yourself is my motto. As for W. S. , you don't have to BF you don't have to buy drinks but there is a difference between GoGo on W. S. And L. K. , Soi Diamond is down at W. S. Nothing really there leads from W. S. To 2nd Road. On Soi Baukhao Tree Town you don't have to like it but find out for yourself.
Chillin at Excite Club. 10 or so chicks. Some guy drunk on the bathroom floor. Girl said bar fine is 300. BJ 500 or boom boom 1000.
Kickin it on Beach Road with the fellas. Russian chick comes up to us. I ask her how old she is. She said everybody keeps asking her that. After going back and forth with the age games, she finally says she is 45. One buddy said he ran into her the other day. He told her that he would give her 1000 baht but she misunderstood thinking he was asking her to pay him 1000 baht. She said that she did not pay for sex. Other buddy explained to her that no he would pay her 1000. She said yes and was ready, but he blew her off.
I met a BR chick that another BM went with yesterday. He said she was nothing to write home about. When she came up I took my ring off and slid it onto her finger. She said big. I said yeah this dick is big too. She started laughing. She said why you can speak Thai? I said why you can speak English? I traded info with her, sure that I could get better results than the other BM!
You are both completely right, everything max 30 min walk from central location. Which is fun for exploring (if weather allows), I've rebooked the hotel. Thanks!
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2802546]What month are you there?[/QUOTE]June / July.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2802554]Certainly, staying more centralized would be ideal as noted by Soi Buakhao. My suggestion is never to say no to things if you don't take the time, especially when you are right there you will never know to find out for yourself is my motto. As for W. S. , you don't have to BF you don't have to buy drinks but there is a difference between GoGo on W. S. And L. K. , Soi Diamond is down at W. S. Nothing really there leads from W. S. To 2nd Road. On Soi Baukhao Tree Town you don't have to like it but find out for yourself.[/QUOTE]Never try never know haha. I'll definitely try everything, it's just that Pattaya, at least while googling, seems to have a LOT more options than Bangkok. At least marketed towards farangs.
Last December on my first trip, I stayed at Areca. It was the most central place that I could find. However, I did not visit LK Metro, pothole, or boomerang all that much.
The most fun I had was on soi 6, but having to walk down the road to Second to catch the bus then walk a bit more to catch another bus after it hits walking, I found that too cumbersome.
Next time I visit, I am either going to stay closer to the 6 (by Altrea), or perhaps between Central road and the mall. At least that way, it is one bus with no transfer to get to / from the 6 or walking.
Though TBH because of the distance to the 6, I took the bus there once. Every time after, I used bolt. What is $3-4 for a ride in an aircon car ride after spending $1400 on a plane ticket. Pocket change. Literally.
I was in 808 a couple of weeks ago and met a chick from Bangkok. I tried to get her to come home with me but she said she was going to sleep and going back home the next day. We traded info. She said that she was in Pattaya looking for a job.
I kept asking when she was coming back to Pattaya and she said in 2 weeks. When I got back from Samui I hit her up and she asked how I knew she was in Pattaya. I said I did not. I was just hitting her up. I said when are you coming to see me? She kept making excuses saying she would let me know when. I said I think you are full of shit. She said well believe what you want to believe.
Then she said she wanted to tell the truth that she had been going to the disco to look for customers. I paid no attention to it, instead asking about her recent interview. She said that she got the job and will start Saturday. Hotel receptionist.
I got home about 9:30 pm yesterday ready to go to sleep and she hit me up saying she was available. I said okay I am coming now. Send the location. She said not now because she just woke up and needed 1 hour to get ready. I said shit I will probably be sleep by then.
1 hour later she told me she was ready and I went to get her. She just wanted to ride around so we rode to the end of Jomtien then stood there on the beach talking. We headed back and stopped into a bar / restaurant in Jomtien and had some soft drinks. We left there and went back to my place.
Things were getting hot and heavy then her sister messaged her saying that she was hungry. She said she needed to bring her sister some food and asked if I would be angry if she did not return. I said hell yeah. We are going to take this food together. We stopped by 7 and she got 2 bottles of water and a yogurt (no makeup or other expensive items) 32 baht. Then we went to the noodle place and got noodles and soup 60 baht. Drove to her room and she ran in and dropped it off and came back out.
We got back to my place and I was like where were we? I think she has an oral fixation or whatever you call it because that girl literally sucked me from elbows to asshole, navel and ears included. Sounded like a damn ear cleaning machine when she was sucking my ears out. We used a condom at night but by morning there was no condom required. She said just do not cum inside. I said where do you want, in your mouth? She said mouth or face; it does not matter. We went and cleaned up.
I hit my boy up telling him that I did not know if I was supposed to give this chick money or not. I said we went on a regular date and talked about a bunch of normal shit and the overseas jobs that she has had. Everything just seems normal. I think she was just taking on customers while looking for a job. He said it is probably best to give her money so she has no expectations later.
I went and got back in the bed. We started talking and she was saying how she wanted to eat mu kata but did not have any money. She asked if I could give her 500 baht to go eat later. I guess the problem solved itself.
I dropped her to her room and she sent messages thanking me. She said that she would go out tonight because Mixx is giving ladies free drinks. Now almost 2 am she is sending me messages saying she is drunk and wanting me to come get her.
I had been talking to a Thai Friendly chick for a couple of days. Then today she sends me a picture of a van full of mfs and says she wants to level with me. She said she has to take care of all these people and if I can not help her do that then I do not need to waste my time with her. I said ok.
The sad thing is that she probably would not be asking if there were not guys willing to take on the burden of financially supporting a bunch of random mfs that they have never met and have no ties to. Or at least that is my take from reading these pages at times. Thais make the mess and farang are there to clean it up.
I'm one of the ones playing connect 4. I like sitting at a bar playing games with bar girls. What are you doing when you are not upstairs with a girl or looking for one? A few hundred baht to pass a few hours of time is money well spent. Not everyone is there for just couple weeks. Some people like to make friends with bar girls and enjoy banter. If it's not for you do what is.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2802247]It's the funniest thing to see old farangs sitting at bars playing connect four with the girls LOL. Oofy doofy looking dudes.
Personally, I don't even bother with drinks, just walk up to the front of the soi 6 bars, find one you find attractive, talk to her on the curb, if she gives good vibes, take her upstairs. No need to waste money on drinks or time on dumb, fake chit chat. Smash and dash. Pump and dump. The goofiest guys are the ones that spend all day and night just aimlessly sitting at bars.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Horatio;2802633]I'm one of the ones playing connect 4. I like sitting at a bar playing games with bar girls. What are you doing when you are not upstairs with a girl or looking for one? A few hundred baht to pass a few hours of time is money well spent. Not everyone is there for just couple weeks. Some people like to make friends with bar girls and enjoy banter. If it's not for you do what is.[/QUOTE]One of the benefits of a closed bar is that you don't have to pass the time playing games, you can play the ladies.
But, I like to bring the ladies to my condo for drinks, and we talk about their favorite subject: themselves.
If you think about it, when the bargirls don't have a customer, their second favorite activity (apart from playing telephone with their boyfriend) is sitting around talking with the other ladies. So, it's kind of the same when they come to my condo. Except that they don't talk about who has the youngest cutest boyfriend, but who has the stupidest boyfriend, or who borrows money from everyone. And they love to talk about their Farang boyfriends, even if the guy just comes to Pattaya for 2 weeks and sends them money. If the lady has a real Farang boyfriend, I won't fuck them, otherwise, they are fair game. So if you are sending a lady money, thanks, I will take care of them.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2802565]Chillin at Excite Club. 10 or so chicks. Some guy drunk on the bathroom floor. Girl said bar fine is 300. BJ 500 or boom boom 1000.[/QUOTE]I love that place. Many great times there. The girls like to party.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2802589]I had been talking to a Thai Friendly chick for a couple of days. Then today she sends me a picture of a van full of mfs and says she wants to level with me. She said she has to take care of all these people and if I can not help her do that then I do not need to waste my time with her. I said ok.
The sad thing is that she probably would not be asking if there were not guys willing to take on the burden of financially supporting a bunch of random mfs that they have never met and have no ties to. Or at least that is my take from reading these pages at times. Thais make the mess and farang are there to clean it up.[/QUOTE]Let me get this straight:
Some lady you only know from Social media is asking you to support her and her family?
After sex I liked playing connect 4 with the ladies and that other game where you stack the wood pieces until the house of cards falls . You can play these games Drunk or Sober and still never win against a Thai. I get it that guys want to Smash and Dash. That's cool. But I can't resist a game now and then. It's whatever floats your boat.
My first trip to Thailand arrive early morning Suvarnabhumi 2. 30 am from the land of temples in south India, took sometime to clear immigration and collecting luggage.
Reached the ground floor with lots of local Thai food restaurants had some mixed non veg fried and went down to the basement level to change currency notes usd to thb.
I had already prebooked my Thai sim from klook collected it from it from the ground level counter, also pre booked the bell bus from Suvarnabhumi to Pattaya, bus is at ground floor level.
Bus departs 8. 00 am,300 bht to pattaya has a toilet on board, arrives in pattaya around 10.00 am something at their depot in north Pattaya from there they transfer you to.
Minivans which take you to your hotel. Checked in to my hotel arecalodge soi LK metro area, this is a central area for all action soi buakao, soi lengkee, soi 6 walking street, soi made in Thailand, beach road, and soi chaiyapoon all short distance walk from this area, receptionist told rooms will be ready from 11.00 am, went outside to purchase kamagra gel and mongering essentials and to get a breakfast bite arrived back at my hotel. Called a girl from thaifriendly had taken their premium subscription one month 20 usd, nid arrived a saloon worker.
Assets 6/10 face 6/10 slight DFK, bbjb, action in missionary, damages 1.5 k thb for 1 hour.
[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2802572]Last December on my first trip, I stayed at Areca. It was the most central place that I could find. However, I did not visit LK Metro, pothole, or boomerang all that much.
The most fun I had was on soi 6, but having to walk down the road to Second to catch the bus then walk a bit more to catch another bus after it hits walking, I found that too cumbersome.
Next time I visit, I am either going to stay closer to the 6 (by Altrea), or perhaps between Central road and the mall. At least that way, it is one bus with no transfer to get to / from the 6 or walking.
Though TBH because of the distance to the 6, I took the bus there once. Every time after, I used bolt. What is $3-4 for a ride in an aircon car ride after spending $1400 on a plane ticket. Pocket change. Literally.[/QUOTE]Sweet Honey Hotel.
2 minutes from Central.
Right in Treetop area. Although I'd call that place highly dis-appointing.
In the evening time went down to the MP bar in soi chaiyapoon it is next to junney MP don't know if still exist, is it aum MP / bar, bjb 800 bht plus tip 200, cleaned me up with a wet wipe and.
Start the deed came in 20 minutes, had a beer from there or some bar near there FS also available 1000 bh everything MILF type girls but very cooperative.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2802247]
Personally, I don't even bother with drinks, just walk up to the front of the soi 6 bars, find one you find attractive, talk to her on the curb, if she gives good vibes, take her upstairs. No need to waste money on drinks or time on dumb, fake chit chat. Smash and dash. Pump and dump. [/QUOTE]This is my modus operandi as well, never waste money on drinks.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2802633]I'm one of the ones playing connect 4. I like sitting at a bar playing games with bar girls. What are you doing when you are not upstairs with a girl or looking for one? A few hundred baht to pass a few hours of time is money well spent. Not everyone is there for just couple weeks. Some people like to make friends with bar girls and enjoy banter. If it's not for you do what is.[/QUOTE]For me if I'm not busy with a girl or looking for one I like to relax in the swimming pool in my condo, go to the beach, gym, walk on a beach road, driving my motorbike around or spend time with my friends.
[QUOTE=DonCofee;2802748]In the evening time went down to the MP bar in soi chaiyapoon it is next to junney MP don't know if still exist, is it aum MP / bar, bjb 800 bht plus tip 200, cleaned me up with a wet wipe and.
Start the deed came in 20 minutes, had a beer from there or some bar near there FS also available 1000 bh everything MILF type girls but very cooperative.[/QUOTE]I believe the two or three shops attached are gone it was being empty and renovated. As for Juney her shop has been sold and gone for some time she is working on Soi Buakhao a bit up from Soi Diana, on that corner one side is a 7/11 opposite is an open bar a bit up from the bar Baukhao side is a small massage can't remember the name right now but she works there.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2802247]
Personally, I don't even bother with drinks, just walk up to the front of the soi 6 bars, find one you find attractive, talk to her on the curb, if she gives good vibes, take her upstairs. No need to waste money on drinks or time on dumb, fake chit chat. Smash and dash. Pump and dump. The goofiest guys are the ones that spend all day and night just aimlessly sitting at bars.[/QUOTE]I mostly agree with this but I will have one or 2 drinks with her first as it helps me get a better sense of whether I should take her upstairs and then also gives me a few minutes to get relaxed and in the mood. I'm not going to be throbbing hard after running that whole Soi 6 gauntlet- it's information overload and a bit stressful.
I got nothing against guys who like to sit and drink / play games on Soi 6- I am just generally bored by conversations / games with these ladies-I'd rather sit somewhere by myself and watch youtube vids or something.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2802894]I believe the two or three shops attached are gone it was being empty and renovated. As for Juney her shop has been sold and gone for some time she is working on Soi Buakhao a bit up from Soi Diana, on that corner one side is a 7/11 opposite is an open bar a bit up from the bar Baukhao side is a small massage can't remember the name right now but she works there.[/QUOTE]Juney work at Lamyai Massage.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2802633]I'm one of the ones playing connect 4. I like sitting at a bar playing games with bar girls. What are you doing when you are not upstairs with a girl or looking for one? A few hundred baht to pass a few hours of time is money well spent. Not everyone is there for just couple weeks. Some people like to make friends with bar girls and enjoy banter. If it's not for you do what is.[/QUOTE]To each their own. I stay busy doing a ton of random shit when I'm in Pattaya, so wasting hours at a loud, dusty bar doesn't appeal to me. With the few hundred baht I would be spending on drinks and lady drinks, I could be getting massages instead. I get multiple massages a day when I'm there, one foot and one full body. But again, to each their own.
[QUOTE=DonCofee;2802697]My first trip to Thailand arrive early morning Suvarnabhumi 2. 30 am from the land of temples in south India, took sometime to clear immigration and collecting luggage.
Reached the ground floor with lots of local Thai food restaurants had some mixed non veg fried and went down to the basement level to change currency notes usd to thb.
I had already prebooked my Thai sim from klook collected it from it from the ground level counter, also pre booked the bell bus from Suvarnabhumi to Pattaya, bus is at ground floor level.
Bus departs 8. 00 am,300 bht to pattaya has a toilet on board, arrives in pattaya around 10.00 am something at their depot in north Pattaya from there they transfer you to.
Minivans which take you to your hotel. Checked in to my hotel arecalodge soi LK metro area, this is a central area for all action soi buakao, soi lengkee, soi 6 walking street, soi made in Thailand, beach road, and soi chaiyapoon all short distance walk from this area, receptionist told rooms will be ready from 11.00 am, went outside to purchase kamagra gel and mongering essentials and to get a breakfast bite arrived back at my hotel. Called a girl from thaifriendly had taken their premium subscription one month 20 usd, nid arrived a saloon worker..[/QUOTE]I have not been in Thailand since the end of October 2022. I'm sensing that the going rate for ST is now 1,500 off TF. I even texted a few girls on Line that I had not seen when I was there and they quoted me 1,500 baht for ST. Right now that's about 35 usd, when I was there last year the exchange rate was so good that it was about 30 usd. Having said that, I am sure you can still find them for 1,000 baht ST.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2802905]I mostly agree with this but I will have one or 2 drinks with her first as it helps me get a better sense of whether I should take her upstairs and then also gives me a few minutes to get relaxed and in the mood. I'm not going to be throbbing hard after running that whole Soi 6 gauntlet- it's information overload and a bit stressful.
I got nothing against guys who like to sit and drink / play games on Soi 6- I am just generally bored by conversations / games with these ladies-I'd rather sit somewhere by myself and watch youtube vids or something.[/QUOTE]When are you going back to Pattaya? I learned a lot from your posts last year.
I'm hoping to go back in the summer, I'll be curious to see where rates are for TF girls, Soi 6 and the BJ bars. I also think by summer the US dollar is going to get weaker against other currencies.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2802932]Juney work at Lamyai Massage.[/QUOTE]That is the one where the girl got mad because I wanted a real massage and did not want to fuck. She made me choose someone else.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2802947]When are you going back to Pattaya? I learned a lot from your posts last year.
I'm hoping to go back in the summer, I'll be curious to see where rates are for TF girls, Soi 6 and the BJ bars. I also think by summer the US dollar is going to get weaker against other currencies.[/QUOTE]I will be back in May and hoping to stay a bit longer this time.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2802945]I have not been in Thailand since the end of October 2022. I'm sensing that the going rate for ST is now 1,500 off TF. I even texted a few girls on Line that I had not seen when I was there and they quoted me 1,500 baht for ST. Right now that's about 35 usd, when I was there last year the exchange rate was so good that it was about 30 usd. Having said that, I am sure you can still find them for 1,000 baht ST.[/QUOTE]Most TF girls now want 2000 to come to my condo. I've lost a couple of girls who had come for 1500 for the past year or two. I suspect that's because they now want 2000 and are no longer prepared to come for 1500. They don't say so. What they do is put me off every time I want them to come.
I still pay 1000 at soi 6 though.
[QUOTE=XXL;2803016]Most TF girls now want 2000 to come to my condo. I've lost a couple of girls who had come for 1500 for the past year or two. I suspect that's because they now want 2000 and are no longer prepared to come for 1500. They don't say so. What they do is put me off every time I want them to come.
I still pay 1000 at soi 6 though.[/QUOTE]2000 baht is standard for ladies to come to my condo, either overnight or for a few hours in the day.
After the shags and a little nap got up at around 8. 30 pm, went out of areca just near to it, at that time there used to be a bar / cafe / restaurant where the 5 fingers massage centre is.
Located now had my dinner Ceasar's salad and a san miguel, went down walking crossing central pattaya to soi 6 entered one of the beer bars there had another san miguel was getting any vibes with the ladies there, after the beer walk down the full road of soi 6 leading to the beach walk a little distance on that beach road 50 metres saw lady sitting on a bench, asked her.
If she is looking for a customer fixed the deed 2 k bt LT, she had a moped / scooter took me on that to areca lodge stopped on the way at kiss food had a meat soup and she some.
Some thai fried rice, went to areca had to show her ID there, went to my room and started the deed, bath toghether in the tub, a massage, slight DFK, bbjb, and missionary and doggy finished in 20 min. 2nd round after a smoke and cuddling and some chit chat delay of 10 min, DFK, bbjb and missionary, looks 6/10, boobs 6/10,DFK 5/10 bbjb 6/10,she is from issan and left after than 2nd round after 10 min, kept the cash to give to her on the table, got her line ID and said will contact her in future.
Next day Oct. 9 after getting up and lapping up the breakfast at areca headed out at 10 am to soi chaiyapoon to the MP near aum bar, the mamasan the 35 plus lady said.
Only massage + FS + bbjb 1000 bh went to the shower cleaned my self up started the massage back, leg, neck turned over she undressed massage my abdomen, groins, nipple suck and stroking.
Me, bbjb, light DFK, entered in missionary with cover deed over in 30 min handed her the 1 k+100 tip and khapun khap and left to terminal 21 to see the mall and the ' jocker' movie.
After returning from terminal 21 in the evening, walked around l k metro, needed a genuine massage due to back spasms headed to nemo massage centre, she the mamasan.
Knows how to give a stress reliever massage, no extras there, after the one hour massage handed her 300 bh +100 bh tip, walked down that soi chaiyapoon street, went to lolitas BJ parlour.
Seleted a MILF 30+yrs, 800 bh took the tool kit headed upstairs she gave me a nice BJ untill I came handed 800 + tip, got her line ID came down, mamasan asked if ineeded a beer took a san miguel had it and return back to LK metro had some van cocktails shawarma and returned back to areca lodge.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2803023]2000 baht is standard for ladies to come to my condo, either overnight or for a few hours in the day.[/QUOTE]As I recall that's always been your standard amount- even during the pandemic.
This past summer I was getting 1000ST for slightly above average girls, 1500 for well above average, and 2000 for pretty and young. I'm looking forward to seeing how this has changed over the year when I am back on the ground. It's possible that by May / June / July these prices will come down some due to the extended season finally drawing down after Songkran.
I know everyone says Asian business sense operates in reverse- where less customers means they ask more to compensate- but I've met a lot of desperate girls that really just need to pay rent money and will gladly go for 1000 especially if you look somewhat decent. That's another subtext with all these prices- we don't know the mongers age, level of fitness etc. Again- many BM will say that doesn't matter that they are just motivated by money. So why are the hottest girls working exclusively at Go Go's where their customers are young Korean men flush with cash? It's not only because they make more money there- it's because it gives them face to be seen with young men dressed in hip clothing resembling the rappers and k-pop stars they idolize. If being seen with you lowers their face, you're going to be charged more.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2802945]I have not been in Thailand since the end of October 2022. I'm sensing that the going rate for ST is now 1,500 off TF. I even texted a few girls on Line that I had not seen when I was there and they quoted me 1,500 baht for ST. Right now that's about 35 usd, when I was there last year the exchange rate was so good that it was about 30 usd. Having said that, I am sure you can still find them for 1,000 baht ST.[/QUOTE]FYI Current Exchange Rates;.
34.07 baht- 1 usd.
1000 baht= 29.35 usd.
1500 baht= 44.03 usd.
2000 baht= 58.70 usd.
3000 baht= 88.04 usd.
Woke up early morning 10 Oct. 2019 ,was feeling a bit horny, searched through the TF app, got in contact with janney communicated through line through line, she reached.
My hotel via scooter in 25 min, had to go the reception to pick her up and deposit of ID, went up to my room small chit chat, she was working in Korea as a masseuse it seems, massage DFK, bbjb, cover on misionary and doggy, wasn't comin released by bbjb looks6/10, assets boobs and body 6/10,bbjb 7/10,gave her 1.8 k bh, she said I need any repetition to contact her, line ID photo is being posted along.
After visiting the tourist attraction sites like tiger park, floating market, passing through jomtien and ripley's believe it or not reached my hotel, headed off to nemo for a relaxing massage by the mamasan, rates already discussed, then headed to lolitas selected a MILF 28-30 went upstairs, she used the wet swipes on my tool, and started the bbjb, miday through it asked her to take of her top felt her and licked her boobs, cumed in her moth and she spat it out, gave 800 thb +tips 250 had a san Miguel from the mamasan paid it off and left.
Later that night on 10 Oct. , visited walking street via the baht tuk tuks, wandered around the place and enjoyed a san miguel and watching some thai kickboxing from a bar, later walked around the beach road area spotted a MILF negociated to 1. 5 k bt st + bbjb, took her to my rooms on the mobike taxi, gave her ID details to reception, deed started, she gave only LFK, CBJ, missionary and doggy, finally came by HJ, was dissatisfied with her don't remember her name, after the deed paid her off and slept after a very tiring day.
Maybe not the the biggest natural tits in Pattaya but good enough for me to enjoy. Young and firm.
[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;2803277]Maybe not the the biggest natural tits in Pattaya but good enough for me to enjoy. Young and firm.[/QUOTE]Very nice. Where'd you find these?
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2802945]I have not been in Thailand since the end of October 2022. I'm sensing that the going rate for ST is now 1,500 off TF. I even texted a few girls on Line that I had not seen when I was there and they quoted me 1,500 baht for ST. Right now that's about 35 usd, when I was there last year the exchange rate was so good that it was about 30 usd. Having said that, I am sure you can still find them for 1,000 baht ST.[/QUOTE]There is no going rate. I am seeing you asking them how much they want, but I am not seeing you tell them how much you will pay. You pay what you negotiate.
Girl came over last night. She "wanted" 2500 baht ST. I told her that I pay 1200 LT. She said how much for ST and I said 700 and she was on the way.
Two nights ago I went to a chick's place. She was okay with me giving her 1000 for LT. She told me her price is 1500 for ST and 4000 for LT. She also added that some guys give her 2000 for ST though. I am not sure if those guys are giving a 500 baht tip or if they are just contacting her and offering 2000 from the start. She said that she makes 40,000 in one month.
Another TF chick that works at a massage parlor is on the way now. I went to get a massage from her a couple of hours ago. I am paying her 1000 LT.
You pay what you negotiate, not any theoretical going rate.
On the first day, I was with a black girl with an amazing ass who can easily take 5,000 baht per long but only took me 2,000 per long, the problem with her was that she was not very kind and only wanted to do two cums, one in the evening and one in the morning, it was a downfall but I enjoyed her ass.
On the second day, I made a bitter mistake and took a girl from the beach to the room, she looked full in the right places and wanted 2,000 but I told her I would give her 1,000 and she agreed.
In the room, she undressed, and she was just fat, not full in the right places, just fat! Learn an important lesson, if you see a fat Thai girl who thinks she has a big ass because she's fat, then no there is no such thing, you can't find someone like Alexis Texas in Thailand!
In the room the girl did everything for me to let her go, it was really not fun, so I just told her to go home. Lucky, I only paid 1000 baht.
A lesson I learned, in Thailand, fat is just sloppy fat.
On the third day, I went to Insomnia, a club full of beauties, but expect employees to force me to buy drinks even though I already bought drinks!
There was a girl there who wanted 3000 for a long one, I didn't agree. She was a bit fat, and she tried to get me drunk with all the free beer she gave me to drink, maybe to forget that she's fat and go to the hotel with her, luckily I don't get drunk that fast but beware of this method.
After that, I went to the bar downstairs, and found a girl, not the prettiest but there was a connection between us.
She wanted 2,000, I didn't agree, in the end, we agreed on 1,000 for a long time, she was very helpful and kind so I went with her, and even the next day we went to the mall (without additional payment).
On the fourth day, I met a girl who looks completely Russian, but she says about herself that she is fully Thai, I believe she is half-Thai.
She was 10/10, one who could ask for 5000 baht for a short!
We talked a bit and there was a connection, I told her 1,000 but she didn't agree, I left her in favor of another club called 808, an excellent hip-hop club with lots of girls.
After two hours, the girl I met before sends me a message and says she agrees to 1000 baht.
She was excellent! I fucked her so hard that the next day she didn't want to come to me again, despite my request hahaha.
All in all, it was a great experience.
As the night goes on, the women agree to lower prices.
I'm also young but it's not important there, just be nice because respect is very important to them in Thailand.
Don't be suckers and pay thousands and hundreds of baht, and don't ruin Pattaya for people like me.
I will come there again in a month.
I have another report on the Bangkok forum, that can help you get a free girl!
I am planning on visiting Vietnam and Cambodia. However, the posters in those forums all say they'd rather go to Thailand for the money.
I'm looking at some of the prices mentioned here and it seems to be a little higher than Vietnam (maybe not Cambodia, wtf is up with the prices there?
If we are talking price for young hot pussy, is Thailand better than Vietnam and Cambodia, albeit just a bit?
Thank you for your attention to this question.
I've been going through all the Facebook and Twitter pages for many of the Soi 6 bars checking out their lineups- there's always at least a few girls at each that I would do or have done.
I'm not posting them here to stay within the guidelines but they are on my twitter which is the same as my username. You can see the type of girl I favor.
Roxy and Liquid look strong right now.
If anyone has carnal knowledge of the selected ladies please advise.
[QUOTE=HelloIm;2803351]I am planning on visiting Vietnam and Cambodia. However, the posters in those forums all say they'd rather go to Thailand for the money.
I'm looking at some of the prices mentioned here and it seems to be a little higher than Vietnam (maybe not Cambodia, wtf is up with the prices there?
If we are talking price for young hot pussy, is Thailand better than Vietnam and Cambodia, albeit just a bit?
Thank you for your attention to this question.[/QUOTE]Cambodia is awful- stay away. I've posted many times on this.
Penultimate day of my stay in pattaya, had the complementary BF at areca, set out of the hotel 10.00 am, had an agreement with the previous day cabbie, to see a few tourist places, visited the sanctuary of truth was there for 2 hours, then headed to ramayana water park another 2-3 hrs, lunch was there, then returned to visit the art in paradise, and retuned to my hotel by 4 pm, a quick bath and headed to nemos for a massage, the taxi, driver had already booked a ticket for me at alcaazar cabaret, he returned and dropped me off 6 pm something settled his trip fees the show lasted till 9 pm, walked along from there to soi 6 to beach road found a pretty girl FS +bbjb 1. 7 k,after, settling the deed realised she was stoned, anyway hop on the bike taxi to areca, slight DFK, bbjb, mechanical and missionary with see finished the deed in 40 minutes and settled her and waved her off, don't remember her name, she was a stoned 26-28 girl.
[QUOTE=KingAmir;2803344]On the first day, I was with a black girl with an amazing ass who can easily take 5,000 baht per long but only took me 2,000 per long, the problem with her was that she was not very kind and only wanted to do two cums, one in the evening and one in the morning, it was a downfall but I enjoyed her ass.
On the second day, I made a bitter mistake and took a girl from the beach to the room, she looked full in the right places and wanted 2,000 but I told her I would give her 1,000 and she agreed.
In the room, she undressed, and she was just fat, not full in the right places, just fat! Learn an important lesson, if you see a fat Thai girl who thinks she has a big ass because she's fat, then no there is no such thing, you can't find someone like Alexis Texas in Thailand!
In the room the girl did everything for me to let her go, it was really not fun, so I just told her to go home. Lucky, I only paid 1000 baht.
A lesson I learned, in Thailand, fat is just sloppy fat.
On the third day, I went to Insomnia, a club full of beauties, but expect employees to force me to buy drinks even though I already bought drinks!
There was a girl there who wanted 3000 for a long one, I didn't agree. She was a bit fat, and she tried to get me drunk with all the free beer she gave me to drink, maybe to forget that she's fat and go to the hotel with her, luckily I don't get drunk that fast but beware of this method.
After that, I went to the bar downstairs, and found a girl, not the prettiest but there was a connection between us.
She wanted 2,000, I didn't agree, in the end, we agreed on 1,000 for a long time, she was very helpful and kind so I went with her, and even the next day we went to the mall (without additional payment).
On the fourth day, I met a girl who looks completely Russian, but she says about herself that she is fully Thai, I believe she is half-Thai.
She was 10/10, one who could ask for 5000 baht for a short!
We talked a bit and there was a connection, I told her 1,000 but she didn't agree, I left her in favor of another club called 808, an excellent hip-hop club with lots of girls.
After two hours, the girl I met before sends me a message and says she agrees to 1000 baht.
She was excellent! I fucked her so hard that the next day she didn't want to come to me again, despite my request hahaha.
All in all, it was a great experience.
As the night goes on, the women agree to lower prices.
I'm also young but it's not important there, just be nice because respect is very important to them in Thailand.
Don't be suckers and pay thousands and hundreds of baht, and don't ruin Pattaya for people like me.
I will come there again in a month.
I have another report on the Bangkok forum, that can help you get a free girl![/QUOTE]Beware of girls or guys who say they can regularly get 5,000 Baht but will go for 2,000.
I'm thinking they would probably go for 1,200 in a pinch.
[QUOTE=HelloIm;2803351]I am planning on visiting Vietnam and Cambodia. However, the posters in those forums all say they'd rather go to Thailand for the money.
I'm looking at some of the prices mentioned here and it seems to be a little higher than Vietnam (maybe not Cambodia, wtf is up with the prices there?
If we are talking price for young hot pussy, is Thailand better than Vietnam and Cambodia, albeit just a bit?
Thank you for your attention to this question.[/QUOTE]It really comes down to accessibility.
Cambodia and Vietnam sometimes require effort to get laid.
No problem in Pattaya.
Walking around Pattaya during the day I saw a lot of people with suitcases leaving town. Low Season is almost upon us.
It takes a couple more months for the idiots who signed up as sponsors over Christmas to stop sending cash to their favorite bar girls. I see at least one bargirl in tears every day because her boyfriend has stopped providing free cash.
Who wants to read reports that are 4 and 5 years old? Not me.
[QUOTE=Fmojo;2803438]Who wants to read reports that are 4 and 5 years old? Not me.[/QUOTE]Agree. I want to know what is happening now as I am heading out there later this year. 2023 will be different than 2019. I know some posters want to reminisce about the past, but it doesn't help us in 2023.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2803381]I've been going through all the Facebook and Twitter pages for many of the Soi 6 bars checking out their lineups- there's always at least a few girls at each that I would do or have done.
I'm not posting them here to stay within the guidelines but they are on my twitter which is the same as my username. You can see the type of girl I favor.
Roxy and Liquid look strong right now.
If anyone has carnal knowledge of the selected ladies please advise.[/QUOTE]Toy Box bar always seems to have a good line up.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2803387]Cambodia is awful- stay away. I've posted many times on this.[/QUOTE]I don't post much here anymore but this is just silly. Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia, Cambodia etc. . . . it's not a question of which one is best, just which style you like. The only way to find out which one you like best is to come try. And don't take too seriously a few guys who've got a problem with one or the other of them. All these countries can be great in their own different ways.
[QUOTE=HelloIm;2803351]I am planning on visiting Vietnam and Cambodia. However, the posters in those forums all say they'd rather go to Thailand for the money.
I'm looking at some of the prices mentioned here and it seems to be a little higher than Vietnam (maybe not Cambodia, wtf is up with the prices there?
If we are talking price for young hot pussy, is Thailand better than Vietnam and Cambodia, albeit just a bit?
Thank you for your attention to this question.[/QUOTE]Everything depends on what you are looking for in any country. If you are looking for cheap pussy of yesterday years it is gone with the wind. Everyone experiences vary. It depends on who you meet, your personality, your negotiation skills etc. One person has a bad day does not mean it is universal.
Thailand as we know is good for mongering. No need to explain further.
Philippines- some like and some do not. I happen to like a lot.
Vietnam- I have been few times and I like it. Girls are very pretty. More pretty means more expensive.
Cambodia- I have had good experiences. Very friendly girls. Has become more expensive lately.
Laos- pretty girls but prostitution is not in your face like Thailand. Needs some game. Could be cheap.
China- used to be out in the open and cheap. Not sure after covid.
Indonesia- available girls at moderate prices. Not all are pretty.
Korea and Japan and Taiwan- quite expensive and not good service.
Hong Kong- used to be very good but after Chinese tightened screws not sure.
Macau- not sure after covid. There used to be lots of girls cheap.
If you are a first time visitor and can afford you need to visit all these places. All of these have magnificent monuments, atmosphere, culture. Who knowns? You could get lucky in mongering too.
For a first time inexperienced guy coming to SEA I'd say go to Thailand and Cambodia. They are the easiest to get girls in a compact area. In most cases it's show them your money and off you go. I'd highly recommend going to both even if your visit to Phnom Penh is for 3 days. PP RLD is in an area around 1 sq km so it doesn't take long to see all the bars. As for Vietnam, with the exception of very few places FS for foreigners is not simple. It's more akin to actual dating in Vietnam for bar girls. If you don't mind online stuff then Gaito is your answer. Pretty, young girls for dirt cheap.
Pretty difficult for us to give you real recommendations unless you tell us your daily hobby budget, what you expect for that money, if you are seeking online girls or bars, freelancers at discos, etc. Also, if you care at all about the city you visit, Bangkok is by far the nicest and cleanest, followed by Ho Chi Minh, Pattaya, and Phnom Penh.
Thai friendly chick has been trying to get with me during daylight hours for a few days now but I am always busy. I think she thought I was blowing her off. Today I had time. I went over without even discussing a price. Total GFE. She wiped my dick down with 3 baby wipes then started the mouth action. She asked if I had a condom and I said we can not make a baby with condom, so she climbed right on top like they always do. I fucked her 6 ways to Sunday. She said why you do not cum yet. I said why you do not cum yet. She said I cum already. Ok. My turn then. All up inside of her. When we were done she washed me in the shower and said I made her pussy hurt, then we went back to the bed to talk.
She was showing me the clothes that she wears to the discos. I asked her if she got a customer yesterday and she said she met a Sweedsh guy in Insomnia. I was curious, so I asked how much he paid. She said 3000. I said damn. Holiday men are rich huh? She said an Indian guy once gave her 5000. She said she goes to the Indian discos a lot. She also said that a Russian guy gave her 4000 per day for 3 days a couple of weeks ago. I reached for my pants and pulled out my 1000 baht contribution and laid it on her bed.
An Indian guy hit her up on whatsapp from a new number asking if she remembers him. He sent a picture and she said yes even though she had no idea who he fucking was. I said why don't you tell the man the truth. She was typing so fast. I said give me the shit and let me write. He said he did not know when he would be back to Thailand but that she would probably be married with kids by then. I said no I wait for you. I already have the kids but not have the married yet.
The air conditioner was leaking so she had called the lady downstairs to come fix it. By the time the lady got there she was dressed but I was still laying on the bed in my birthday suit. She told the lady to hold on a minute. I said she better hold on 2 minutes unless she is planning to get some of this dick too. I got dressed and the lady came in to look at the air.
I like going behind the scenes, eg to a girl's room. I always see what normal chicks they are and wonder that if other guys saw behind the curtain would they still be eager to pay the 3000 to 5000 baht that they agree to when they have met the chick during show time. It is like a guy can go to a strip club and be ready to pay a chick $300 for some ass, but if he like met the same chick on tinder and went to her small apartment in the hood, would he still be like here take this $300? Or would he be more like I am not giving this chick more than $50?
A buddy of mine put up a facebook post the other day of that Ice Spice chick saying that she is just average looking and he is not impressed. I said 99.5% of the people on the planet are average looking when they wake up in the morning. It is not until they become famous or get on a stage and somebody shines some lights on them that other average people see them as being on a pedestal. And that is the attitude that I take on Pattaya with.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2803381]Roxy and Liquid look strong right now.
If anyone has carnal knowledge of the selected ladies please advise.[/QUOTE]A member posted about Roxy a few days ago.
Two of the girls with their pics on their facebook page are drink only it seems, one of them is probably one you were eying.
That is the problem with these facebook pics, too many of them are there just to lure customers in, they are either drink only or not even there each time you past in front of their bar (at least in my experience).
[QUOTE=Fmojo;2803438]Who wants to read reports that are 4 and 5 years old? Not me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jparkla23;2803445]Agree. I want to know what is happening now as I am heading out there later this year. 2023 will be different than 2019. I know some posters want to reminisce about the past, but it doesn't help us in 2023.[/QUOTE]Me too! I find no point in sharing 4 or 5 year old experiences.
[QUOTE=Betong;2803494]I don't post much here anymore but this is just silly. Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia, Cambodia etc. . . . it's not a question of which one is best, just which style you like. The only way to find out which one you like best is to come try. And don't take too seriously a few guys who've got a problem with one or the other of them. All these countries can be great in their own different ways.[/QUOTE]Yes and no. The whole point of a forum is to provide insight to prospective mongers to they don't waste valuable time and money only to have bad experiences. Read all posts and evaluate the divergent opinions.
I will provide my insight and the BM can read and decide for themselves.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2803508]
Thailand as we know is good for mongering. No need to explain further.
[/QUOTE]I agree with this but will highlight in Pattaya- still reasonable prices for girls and accommodations. Slim girls can be found (although a little less every year). Many girls willing to BB.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2803508]
Cambodia- I have had good experiences. Very friendly girls. Has become more expensive lately.
[/QUOTE]Pre-covid I had decent experiences. Post covid it has become an Asian man (Chinese) oriented "Hostess Bar" concept where very few of the girls will Bar Fine and only are there for drinks. The few girls that will barfine are older and average or below. Prices have gone up from standard of 40 to now 60 or 80 USD. Phnom Penh as a city is not fun to stay in more than a week and everything is more expensive than Pattaya. Don't believe me- do a comparison on Numbeo.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2803508]
Philippines- some like and some do not. I happen to like a lot.
[/QUOTE]I had fun experiences pre-covid but now it's completely taken over by the Koreans- you will be ignored in most Korean owned bars as the girls are snatched early by groups of 4-6 younger Korean men who arrive en masse in hotel vans, snatch the best talent and then go back to the hotel pool to smoke cigarettes, play cards, and occasionally poke the ladies. For the girls it's huge money for not a lot of work, and they gladly take that option over an older Euro-American- Aussie. Western bars have the leftover talent and all the prices have gone up, up, up. Strong point for Angeles is near universal BB although I hear that's changing on the margin, and some girls no longer doing BJ.
Angeles and Phnom Penh boards will have veteran expats who live long term in the city and act as a booster for it. Keep in mind your experience staying a few weeks to a few months will not be the same because they have had time to find regulars etc. They also have become accustomed to the situation and developed a sense of pride that blurs their objective judgement.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;2803535]Me too! I find no point in sharing 4 or 5 year old experiences.[/QUOTE]Reports from 5 months ago are hardly even relevant let alone 5 years.
Just got out. Lots of pretty girls with tops off. Mostly natural.
At least 75 girls but just 5 guys on a Saturday night! And the streets are crowded.
Now going to check LK treetown area.
I'm starting to get a lot of requests from ladies to come to my condo, so the customer crunch must be starting.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2803650]I'm starting to get a lot of requests from ladies to come to my condo, so the customer crunch must be starting.[/QUOTE]One of the reasons I come off season.
I had a discussion with a mamasan recently about how much effort to put into a session with a bargirl. Her position was that the customer should try to please the bargirl. My opinion is that the bargirl is working, not me.
I thought about this, and came up with what I do in practice:
If you are doing short time with a lady in a bar, you don't know if the lady has done 3 customers before and is dreading a sore pussy. So, finishing quick is good for her. Of course, she will always lié about how many customers she has had.
Same with Long Time. Quick works best. I just do enough foreplay to get their pussy wet. The exception is if I am sure they have not gone with a customer or boyfriend for a while or there is something they want me to do that their boyfriend doesn't do.
And then there is the case of a Long Long Time, like if I travel abroad with them for more than a week. If a lady is alone with a man and has no alternative for a Dick, then having a Dick available becomes important to them. Then they go into Girlfriend Mode, and it's a good idea to make them happy.
Yeah, I know guys will post that ladies go into Girlfriend Mode during one nighters with them, but there is a difference between a lady desperately trying to make you cum as soon as possible, and real Girlfriend mode.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2803650]I'm starting to get a lot of requests from ladies to come to my condo, so the customer crunch must be starting.[/QUOTE]I'm considering a trip in July, hopefully there's a lot of willing girls and little competition for their attention.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2803524]Thai friendly chick has been trying to get with me during daylight hours for a few days now but I am always busy. I think she thought I was blowing her off. Today I had time. I went over without even discussing a price. Total GFE. She wiped my dick down with 3 baby wipes then started the mouth action. She asked if I had a condom and I said we can not make a baby with condom, so she climbed right on top like they always do. I fucked her 6 ways to Sunday. She said why you do not cum yet. I said why you do not cum yet. She said I cum already. Ok. My turn then. All up inside of her. When we were done she washed me in the shower and said I made her pussy hurt, then we went back to the bed to talk.
She was showing me the clothes that she wears to the discos. I asked her if she got a customer yesterday and she said she met a Sweedsh guy in Insomnia. I was curious, so I asked how much he paid. She said 3000. I said damn. Holiday men are rich huh? She said an Indian guy once gave her 5000. She said she goes to the Indian discos a lot. She also said that a Russian guy gave her 4000 per day for 3 days a couple of weeks ago. I reached for my pants and pulled out my 1000 baht contribution and laid it on her bed.
An Indian guy hit her up on whatsapp from a new number asking if she remembers him. He sent a picture and she said yes even though she had no idea who he fucking was. I said why don't you tell the man the truth. She was typing so fast. I said give me the shit and let me write. He said he did not know when he would be back to Thailand but that she would probably be married with kids by then. I said no I wait for you. I already have the kids but not have the married yet.
The air conditioner was leaking so she had called the lady downstairs to come fix it. By the time the lady got there she was dressed but I was still laying on the bed in my birthday suit. She told the lady to hold on a minute. I said she better hold on 2 minutes unless she is planning to get some of this dick too. I got dressed and the lady came in to look at the air.
I like going behind the scenes, eg to a girl's room. I always see what normal chicks they are and wonder that if other guys saw behind the curtain would they still be eager to pay the 3000 to 5000 baht that they agree to when they have met the chick during show time. It is like a guy can go to a strip club and be ready to pay a chick $300 for some ass, but if he like met the same chick on tinder and went to her small apartment in the hood, would he still be like here take this $300? Or would he be more like I am not giving this chick more than $50?
A buddy of mine put up a facebook post the other day of that Ice Spice chick saying that she is just average looking and he is not impressed. I said 99.5% of the people on the planet are average looking when they wake up in the morning. It is not until they become famous or get on a stage and somebody shines some lights on them that other average people see them as being on a pedestal. And that is the attitude that I take on Pattaya with.[/QUOTE]Solid 2. 75.1,200 baht renumeration is more than Fair. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2803662]One of the reasons I come off season.[/QUOTE]There is no high season anymore.
Simply Delicious. Yum.
[QUOTE=FinnishFucker;2803277]Maybe not the the biggest natural tits in Pattaya but good enough for me to enjoy. Young and firm.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KingAmir;2803344]Don't be suckers and pay thousands and hundreds of baht, and don't ruin Pattaya for people like me.[/QUOTE]Guys like you are ruinning it for themselves by coming five days every five or ten years, don't blame it on others man.
[QUOTE=KingAmir;2803344]I will come there again in a month.[/QUOTE]I guess we will have to wait five other years for your report to come.
Could you do a quick account of Malaysia please. I see lot of stuff on it being a good place to retjre and I want to go there this fall. I've never been except on visa runs. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2803508]Everything depends on what you are looking for in any country. If you are looking for cheap pussy of yesterday years it is gone with the wind. Everyone experiences vary. It depends on who you meet, your personality, your negotiation skills etc. One person has a bad day does not mean it is universal.
Thailand as we know is good for mongering. No need to explain further.
Philippines- some like and some do not. I happen to like a lot.
Vietnam- I have been few times and I like it. Girls are very pretty. More pretty means more expensive.
Cambodia- I have had good experiences. Very friendly girls. Has become more expensive lately.
Laos- pretty girls but prostitution is not in your face like Thailand. Needs some game. Could be cheap.
China- used to be out in the open and cheap. Not sure after covid.
Indonesia- available girls at moderate prices. Not all are pretty.
Korea and Japan and Taiwan- quite expensive and not good service.
Hong Kong- used to be very good but after Chinese tightened screws not sure.
Macau- not sure after covid. There used to be lots of girls cheap.
If you are a first time visitor and can afford you need to visit all these places. All of these have magnificent monuments, atmosphere, culture. Who knowns? You could get lucky in mongering too.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChanChalupa;2803755]There is no high season anymore.[/QUOTE]Of course there is. December was crazy busy, now things are slowing down.
The only wrinkle was that there were insufficient ladies in December, now there is an excess, since ladies poured into Pattaya after they heard reports of so many customers. As the customers go home, there will be a delayed effect on the ladies, but they will begin to disappear during and after Songkran.
A lot of bars are going to start looking like oíl paintings soon.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2803676]I had a discussion with a mamasan recently about how much effort to put into a session with a bargirl. Her position was that the customer should try to please the bargirl. My opinion is that the bargirl is working, not me.
I thought about this, and came up with what I do in practice:
If you are doing short time with a lady in a bar, you don't know if the lady has done 3 customers before and is dreading a sore pussy. So, finishing quick is good for her. Of course, she will always li about how many customers she has had.
Same with Long Time. Quick works best. I just do enough foreplay to get their pussy wet. The exception is if I am sure they have not gone with a customer or boyfriend for a while or there is something they want me to do that their boyfriend doesn't do.
And then there is the case of a Long Long Time, like if I travel abroad with them for more than a week. If a lady is alone with a man and has no alternative for a Dick, then having a Dick available becomes important to them. Then they go into Girlfriend Mode, and it's a good idea to make them happy.
Yeah, I know guys will post that ladies go into Girlfriend Mode during one nighters with them, but there is a difference between a lady desperately trying to make you cum as soon as possible, and real Girlfriend mode.[/QUOTE]Throw Momma off the Train. She is wrong.
If girl is pleasent I'm over the Moon. If you actually get along you hit the Bargirl Lottery.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2803928]Could you do a quick account of Malaysia please. I see lot of stuff on it being a good place to retjre and I want to go there this fall. I've never been except on visa runs. Thanks.[/QUOTE]If only there was a Malaysia section with lots of reports about that country. I guess someone will help you out by posting reports on Malaysia here in the Pattaya section.
I have a lady taxi driver who takes me to Suvarnaphumi airport on occasion. She mentioned that she stopped driving to go to Johol Bahru in Malaysia to work massage. So I offered to bar fine her for a few days and go to Singapore with her. Could be fun, could be a disaster.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2803928]Could you do a quick account of Malaysia please. I see lot of stuff on it being a good place to retjre and I want to go there this fall. I've never been except on visa runs. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Not much there for Mongering. Beach Club in Kuala Lumpur is closed, wasn't really great anyways. Great country otherwise- Georgetown in Penang is very pleasant and cheap.
[QUOTE=Horatio;2803928]Could you do a quick account of Malaysia please. I see lot of stuff on it being a good place to retjre and I want to go there this fall. I've never been except on visa runs.[/QUOTE]Nice country but a bit dull. Yes I can see it as a good option for domesticated retirees. Not so much for us. Only had Beach Club and Thai Club there. Both closed now I think. Was good cause it was one of the few places outside Vietnam where you could get actual Vietnamese girls without paying a ton like in Singapore. Otherwise overrated.
[QUOTE=Revrez;2793464] Last time I was in the area I tried Ban Chang which is about an hour drive south from Pattaya. They have a small strip of bars but nothing stood out to me there. But the women there are eager to please. Jomtien just outside of Pattaya is also worth seeing at least once. I like to kick back there but I've yet to explore the bar scene action.[/QUOTE]Can provide a street name, some location information on where the bars are in Ban Chang? I've heard of Blue Ice, but that's it. Thanks in advance!
[QUOTE=LuvStJohn;2803962]Can provide a street name, some location information on where the bars are in Ban Chang? I've heard of Blue Ice, but that's it. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]25th Street is where the strip of bars is located. Just look for "Chang Sova" hotel on Google Maps.
Kind of quiet now.
I had my massage lady sleep over for 2 nights. She drove down from Sa Kaeo for the 2 night job. She doesn't work bar or in a massage shop. She did pretty well, but kind of petered out the 2nd night, although she was up for boom-boom both nights.
The last morning, she headed out at first light. Now she is sending "miss you" messages.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2803956]Nice country but a bit dull. Yes I can see it as a good option for domesticated retirees. Not so much for us. Only had Beach Club and Thai Club there. Both closed now I think. Was good cause it was one of the few places outside Vietnam where you could get actual Vietnamese girls without paying a ton like in Singapore. Otherwise overrated.[/QUOTE]I been to KL once and it was fun and cheap in the sauna brothels and incall hotels in KL and suburbs (Kota Damansara, Petaling Jaya, etc.).
[QUOTE=LuvStJohn;2803962]Can provide a street name, some location information on where the bars are in Ban Chang? I've heard of Blue Ice, but that's it. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]This should be the area. There are bars in Pattaya like Cherry Bar in soi Diana and Babylon Paradise Lounge that organize Ban Chang tour one or two times a month.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2804074]The last morning, she headed out at first light. Now she is sending "miss you" messages.[/QUOTE]I think you found your wife. Don't let her go!
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2803931]If only there was a Malaysia section with lots of reports about that country. I guess someone will help you out by posting reports on Malaysia here in the Pattaya section.
I have a lady taxi driver who takes me to Suvarnaphumi airport on occasion. She mentioned that she stopped driving to go to Johol Bahru in Malaysia to work massage. So I offered to bar fine her for a few days and go to Singapore with her. Could be fun, could be a disaster.[/QUOTE]I stayed in a hotel next to a Brothel in Geylang last week. 3 what looked like Asian owners hung out outside what seemed like all day. Watching their dollars go down the toilet meThinks. Hahahaha.
No action whatsoever.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2804148]I think you found your wife. Don't let her go![/QUOTE]When ladies write messages in Thai, I always wonder if they have their Thai husbands write for them.
I messaged this Soi 6 girl (no stunner) whom I sessioned a couple of times at Soi 6. I told her she could come to my condo in Jomtien (Pattaya side) at 1 pm so that she would not lose on her working hours. ST one hour, 2000 baht. She rejected the deal unless I paid an additional travel fee. This shows how spoilt and lazy girls have become.
[QUOTE=XXL;2804338]I messaged this Soi 6 girl (no stunner) whom I sessioned a couple of times at Soi 6. I told her she could come to my condo in Jomtien (Pattaya side) at 1 pm so that she would not lose on her working hours. ST one hour, 2000 baht. She rejected the deal unless I paid an additional travel fee. This shows how spoilt and lazy girls have become.[/QUOTE]A lot of bargirls don't want to go to Jomtien. This was true even before Covid.
[QUOTE=XXL;2804338]I messaged this Soi 6 girl (no stunner) whom I sessioned a couple of times at Soi 6. I told her she could come to my condo in Jomtien (Pattaya side) at 1 pm so that she would not lose on her working hours. ST one hour, 2000 baht. She rejected the deal unless I paid an additional travel fee. This shows how spoilt and lazy girls have become.[/QUOTE]There is a Safety issue having Boom Boom at the Bar.
If 2,000 is near normal you pay and depending on size of travel fee you might have a bargain.
Ask if she can clean while she is there. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=XXL;2804338]I messaged this Soi 6 girl (no stunner) whom I sessioned a couple of times at Soi 6. I told her she could come to my condo in Jomtien (Pattaya side) at 1 pm so that she would not lose on her working hours. ST one hour, 2000 baht. She rejected the deal unless I paid an additional travel fee. This shows how spoilt and lazy girls have become.[/QUOTE]She probably sees those 2000 becoming 1800/1700 once she pays a Grab driver for the return trips.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2765545]Crap.
During the middle of my activities with bargirls, a ringer showed up at my pool villa. By that I mean a gogo dancer from Bangkok. I already had 2 ladies in my pool villa who were there to drink tequila, but 5 g is you g lady was sent by her mother, and she was a knockout. If Miss Universe is a 10, this lady is a 9.
But, we were drinking tequila, and she said she couldn't drink, so I sent her away. I guess she came for a quick fuck.
Anyway, I had 2 ladies with me, and had fun. 5 minutes after they left, another 2 ladies came, and after a couple of hours, we were rolling around my bed. I had my standard doubleheader, one lady in Cowboy, another lady fucking my face, but then I stopped, and sent one lady to the living room, since I knew the other lady wanted to be assfucked, but not in front of another lady.
I ended up with a cum in mouth BJ, the lady claiming it was the first time she swallowed. Whatever.[/QUOTE]Hello! Did you rent the villa? Can you recommend the place? Thank you!
Another trip to Walking Street last night. There definitely has been a downturn in customer volume. Skyfall was pretty empty, and the quality of ladies was lower than last month. Plus, my drink was pretty much alcohol-free, so I bailed. I did run into a bargirl I knew before Covid and bought her a drink. She was sad because her sponsor bailed on her 2 months ago, so she had to go back to working bar. Because her Thai boyfriend needs money.
Peppermint gogo has re-opened, close to where it was before it closed before Covid. Not so crowded, not so many hot girls.
Windmill had decent business, but not filled.
The streets were not crowded at all.
I had a Thai lady with me, so we went back to my condo for sleep. After some quick foreplay, she got on top for Cowboy, I finished in 5 minutes, and she complained that she hadn't finished yet. Since she has a Thai boyfriend plus full time Farang customer plus she works bar, I suspect she was happy I finished quickly.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2804580]Another trip to Walking Street last night. There definitely has been a downturn in customer volume. Skyfall was pretty empty, and the quality of ladies was lower than last month. Plus, my drink was pretty much alcohol-free, so I bailed. I did run into a bargirl I knew before Covid and bought her a drink. She was sad because her sponsor bailed on her 2 months ago, so she had to go back to working bar. Because her Thai boyfriend needs money.
Peppermint gogo has re-opened, close to where it was before it closed before Covid. Not so crowded, not so many hot girls.
Windmill had decent business, but not filled.
The streets were not crowded at all.[/QUOTE]LOL. Peppermint has always been open. What's this "reopened" thing?
I haven't seen this before:
A bargirl told me tonight that she was asked by a Thai lady to "take care" of her Farang boyfriend. The Thai lady had to go to Isaan, and asked my friend to make sure the Farang boyfriend not go with another lady.
And yes, money was paid.
So, my friend slept with the Farang every night.
In case you didn't know, it's all about money.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2804761]I haven't seen this before:
A bargirl told me tonight that she was asked by a Thai lady to "take care" of her Farang boyfriend. The Thai lady had to go to Isaan, and asked my friend to make sure the Farang boyfriend not go with another lady.
And yes, money was paid.
So, my friend slept with the Farang every night.
In case you didn't know, it's all about money.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if what you mean is that she paid the bargirl to sleep with the Farang so that nobody else would, or she paid the bargirl to monitor the Farang so he wouldn't sleep with anyone and she slept with him anyways?
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2804874]I'm not sure if what you mean is that she paid the bargirl to sleep with the Farang so that nobody else would, or she paid the bargirl to monitor the Farang so he wouldn't sleep with anyone and she slept with him anyways?[/QUOTE]That's sort of the opposite of what I've experienced. Last month I had several repeats with the same bar girl, but she had to leave town for a few days. Via Line, the next day she asked me to not go to bed with any girl from her bar. Apparently a face saving scheme, she wanted her coworkers to believe that I was committed to her.
[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2804874]I'm not sure if what you mean is that she paid the bargirl to sleep with the Farang so that nobody else would, or she paid the bargirl to monitor the Farang so he wouldn't sleep with anyone and she slept with him anyways?[/QUOTE]The first one.
The Thai lady was worried that her Farang boyfriend would sleep with some other lady, so she paid my friend to sleep with him instead, to keep him under control.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2804879]That's sort of the opposite of what I've experienced. Last month I had several repeats with the same bar girl, but she had to leave town for a few days. Via Line, the next day she asked me to not go to bed with any girl from her bar. Apparently a face saving scheme, she wanted her coworkers to believe that I was committed to her.[/QUOTE]This is an old trope, the bar girls telling you not to go with another girl from her bar, while she is barfined by another customer.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2804600]LOL. Peppermint has always been open. What's this "reopened" thing?[/QUOTE]He stays in his McMansion. We can give him some Slack on his reporting.
[QUOTE=XXL;2804338]I messaged this Soi 6 girl (no stunner) whom I sessioned a couple of times at Soi 6. I told her she could come to my condo in Jomtien (Pattaya side) at 1 pm so that she would not lose on her working hours. ST one hour, 2000 baht. She rejected the deal unless I paid an additional travel fee. This shows how spoilt and lazy girls have become.[/QUOTE]This can be a reflection of yourself. She has little choice when at work. In her free time she has every right to make you pay. Especially if she doesn't like you.
The fact that you balk about an extra 150 baht for travel and then complain on social media saying it's reflective of the market as a whole is embarrassing.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2804761]I haven't seen this before:
A bargirl told me tonight that she was asked by a Thai lady to "take care" of her Farang boyfriend. The Thai lady had to go to Isaan, and asked my friend to make sure the Farang boyfriend not go with another lady.
And yes, money was paid.
So, my friend slept with the Farang every night.
In case you didn't know, it's all about money.[/QUOTE]Money or not, what do you expect to happen when a chick hires a fox to watch over one goose!
[QUOTE=Knobrm;2804999]Money or not, what do you expect to happen when a chick hires a fox to watch over one goose![/QUOTE]It's not my story. Some bargirl hired another one to fuck her boyfriend.
The point is that the bargirls view their Farang boyfriends as ATMs, not romantic lovers. Most don't mind if their Farang boyfriend fucks other ladies as long as It's not obvious to them and their friends.
[QUOTE=ElMexicant;2804600]LOL. Peppermint has always been open. What's this "reopened" thing?[/QUOTE]THey where still closed last June / July so they "reopened" after a covid a lot later than other gogos.