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[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2889742]Correction: Black Caviar actually starts at 6,000 (S).
Maria starts at 7,000 (L).[/QUOTE]I've hit some of the mid-range and lower soapies on my last trip and I felt like the service was pretty meh so I'm looking to give BC and Maria a shot. It seems like the looks were great at Black Caviar but do you think the service is any better; I. E. Is it GFE and enthusiastic or do the higher range gals just do the "passive" style that asian customers like?
Last time I was in Bangkok was 6 years ago. There was a street vendor near Thermae that had boxes of Sidegra for sale, helps my stamina when the condom is required. Is that guy still selling along Sukhumvit? Is Sidegra available over the counter in Bangkok pharmacies?
[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2889654]But isn't that the purpose of aub nuat to begun with? Come in all hot and sweaty. Pick an angel, get a bath and do your thing? If you've got someplace to be afterwards I can see wanting to be a little more careful.[/QUOTE]If it's a street-level massage shop with a small room and a shower, then sure. But it just didn't feel like Maria and Black Caviar wanted hot and sweaty guys. Especially if you decided to get a drink and take your time choosing a girl. Some Thai girls reject non-Asian clients even if we are well-dressed, perfumed and freshly showered. By the way, how many girls were in Poseidon when you went? Similar looks and prices as Black Caviar?
[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2889626]I mentioned traffic for the benefit of first-time visitors who may be planning to stay near Nana and take a car from there to Black Caviar. For myself, I always took a car even if it was 10 minutes away. I just wouldn't feel good to walk to these nice establishments from the train and arrive all sweaty.[/QUOTE]Why would you walk from the train? Best option would be to take the train to the closest station and then take a taxi or grab from there. From Nana you would take the BTS to Asok and then take the MRT to the closest station.
Thought I would share a recent experience at the Nana Plaza complex. It was a Friday night and I went to several bars, one drink at Butterflies but left because of a pretty low talent pool. But maybe I was there too early. Next to Spanky's, the girls have a lot of fun but they're generally an older lot (30's) with tatoos, not my style. Next to Billboard, which is consistently my favorite. Bought a few rounds of drinks for a tall and slim Asian-blonde, conversation started well but then lagged, there wasn't a connection or sufficient mutual interest. Decided to go to Red Dragon next, was impressed by the number of ladies, mostly slim and in early- to mid-20's I would guess. One girl caught my eye, she also flirted while dancing so bought her a drink and then a few more while we talked and she danced a bit on my junk. I asked about short time and we agreed on 3 K for 3 hours, with I think 1 K for the bar fine. With drinks, about 5. 5 K plus maybe 1. 5 K on drinks at the other bars (7 K total).
Went to my hotel, we showered and then hit the bed. I don't remember her name or number, she was 22 years old though and slim but with practically no chest. Not a big deal, I knew they would be small but didn't realize how small until we were both naked. I kissed her sensitive nips but decided not to dine since I started to smell her odeur as I approached her shortly trimmed pubes. I asked her for a blow, but quickly I could tell she wasn't experienced and actually gagged within 10 seconds (not a deep throat either). That stopped that. I then stroked by schlong against her pussy lips, something I really like and have found many girls also seem to. It does result in the occasional accidental slip-in especially if not careful. After a few brief slips, I just stayed inside (with no hat on) and she didn't say anything. The feeling was intense, she was wet and tight and, despite having 6 or 7 drinks, I was ready to spill my seed. I asked her where she wanted me to finish, and she pointed to her stomach. I would have preferred elsewhere but respected her response.
We both cleaned up and took a short nap. I was ready for action again and she obliged. Almost a repeat performance ending with the same result. Having two sessions for short time is extremely unusual IME. What I found odd was while going to the hotel she asked if I had condoms and I said yes but only had three. I meant that as a joke but now I wonder if she thought I might expect 3 rounds in 3 hours? Anyway, when the time came, she didn't mention condoms nor did I. Being unprotected is like playing Russian Roulette, and afterwards I was thinking, what a fool I was. The thing is, I get myself into these situations and if a girl doesn't ask for a condom, it's easy to not take the initiative oneself. I suppose being horny and half drunk, with a hot young thing naked and in front of you, is my "excuse". I had a even more unusual experience a few days later in Pattaya where the girl actually asked me to drop my load inside. I'll add a report in that forum when I get the chance.
[QUOTE=BackInBangkok;2889874]Last time I was in Bangkok was 6 years ago. There was a street vendor near Thermae that had boxes of Sidegra for sale, helps my stamina when the condom is required. Is that guy still selling along Sukhumvit? Is Sidegra available over the counter in Bangkok pharmacies?[/QUOTE]I no longer buy medications from street vendors, I either bring from home or go to pharmacy. My last such purchase was from a tiny pharmacy on Soi 15 just a few steps from Sukhumvit on the left. No prescription was required.
Saw this girl on TF. Booked her for later in the evening. When she showed up in the lobby, the vibe was strange. She was very reluctant with everything. Tried to kiss her after shower to get into the mood, but she was not into it. I felt like she didn't want to be there in the first place. It's like I was forcing her to do something she didn't want to do. I called it off, gave her taxi money and let her go. And she was mad.
Yes I know you don't go to Thailand for black but as an alternative to break the Yellow fever.
Anyone had any sessions with the African ladies. They seem to hunt in packs which I don't like, I would imagine they don't get many proposals.
Any idea of prices and performance.
Appreciate.
NI.
[QUOTE=Gladiator69;2890022]Saw this girl on TF. Booked her for later in the evening. When she showed up in the lobby, the vibe was strange. She was very reluctant with everything. Tried to kiss her after shower to get into the mood, but she was not into it. I felt like she didn't want to be there in the first place. It's like I was forcing her to do something she didn't want to do. I called it off, gave her taxi money and let her go. And she was mad.[/QUOTE]That's too bad. If she looked like the pic you posted I would be bummed out too. She's pretty hot.
[QUOTE=Francesco24;2888196]Today I went to Ratchada 17 (Watana hotel) to meet this girl: [URL]https://fiwfans.io/sideline/406raembhlp0ggbxq[/URL].
I really would like to know how can every review on her page be so fake?
IF she is the same girl as in the picture, the amount of photoshop is really crazy. In real, she looks barely passable (5.5 or 6 at most).
Service was even worse of course: the.
No kiss with tongue, no touch / lick her boobs already made me lose any interest which was already low after seeing her real looks.
BJ was decent but very very short. No CIM allowed.
So I would like to ask again to the member more expert about FiwFan, how is it possible that every review is overly positive? Most are fake? Real negative review are censored? (I didn't try to review on FiwFan yet). Or they switch the girl with someone vaguely resembling the original one when she is off work?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the post. I am curious too. I read sinfulkorean's reviews of ff were very positive. I also contacted FF, and tsgsideline, and some others. I'm concerned this is a bait and switch type of operation. You get a line to the booker, not the girl on the line. The booker is an a $$hole to be polite. He doesn't clarify the details of the service but just focused on making the booking. Rude and impatient. I suspect I'the be setting ourselves for a bad / poor experience. Although I have not tried, are you guys seeing a lot of face not matching actual scenarios? The booker says if face doesn't match photo, you can cancel free of charge. However, my concern is when you are in another hotel, not sure what tricks they (girl / pimp) could play with you when you refuse if girl doesn't match photo. Have any of you cancelled?
[QUOTE=NovaThings;2888142]Section 3.
Day 4 -.
Went back to black caviar and they let me choose without membership again so I chose two CVs. One was the sana look alike and the other was a former racing car model. Amazing experience. They gave me my member number after that session. They upgraded me to a huge suite without any additional fees.
Rested and went back to red dragon. My second line girl got super pissed because I picked two sisters and not her and someone else. The younger is second from the left on 12/25, I would rate her as a L and her sister as a M. Amazing experience. Younger sister was third line girl, older sister was decent but selected both because it was a bucket item list I didn't know I wanted to check off.
Day 5 -.
Went to Snow White and saw candy in the morning. M face, s body. Out in 30 but paid for hour. Tipped and left.
Went to black caviar in the early afternoon and chose an L. Amazing experience. I thought she should be a XL. She would let me face force her and she was gagging while deepthroating me but wouldn't quit. She was snorting out my seed, since her mouth was full and she smiled through the whole appointment.
I was planning to go back to black caviar as my final destination that evening because there were 2 girls that I saw and wanted to see. But for the good of the team I went to PIMP instead. Pimp Mamasan was super cool but there was no CV, maybe a handful of PV, and L / xl out of 30 girls. The problem was I was probably going to fork out close to 45,000 for room, bar fine, automatic food cost and then add another 8-16,000 (a guess) if I could bring them back and some were not available to leave. I think PIMP would be a solid option as warm up to the actual thing but I wanted action and not teasing.
Messaged mamasan at black caviar who upgraded me again as I chose duo L (who I think was more of a PV) and her friend who was a PV (who I would have picked as a L). I then went with another L, L, and PV trio after my initial L and PV duo to close out my final day. I ended up paying about the same amount as above for PIMP but got the same size room / amenities while meeting 5 different girls. I would consider pimp maybe earlier in my vacation next time but it will likely be black caviar (get lines) and then everything else.
In conclusion. I really tried to be open but there was such a wide looks gap between soapies and gogo / black caviar and black caviar had even better service. I had black caviar girls forcing themselves on me, spitting on my cock, deep throating, rimming, forcing their partner to open wider, super flexible, submissive, etc. Coupled with the most beautiful girls. I did end up with some decent girls from red dragon but ultimately the girls from black caviar are the standard and that's the price I was willing to play. Also during slow hours. There were about 20 girls at black caviar but during peak hours there were at least 50 and 1/2 were always XL, PV or CV. Happy punting all![/QUOTE]Thanks, very informative. What do the levels means for BC? (eg, XL, L, PV, CV, etc).
[QUOTE=NewImage;2890079]Yes I know you don't go to Thailand for black but as an alternative to break the Yellow fever.
Anyone had any sessions with the African ladies. They seem to hunt in packs which I don't like, I would imagine they don't get many proposals.
Any idea of prices and performance.
Appreciate.
NI.[/QUOTE]I've talked to a few and smelled others as they walked past I wouldn't bang one but YMMV. They ask 3500 but drop down immediately. I may try a mouth when I get to BKK in a few weeks. That's probably 1000. If I can find one that looks and smells good, and wears her wig on straight.
Have just read (on another popular site that "sticks" in your memory) that the whole lady drink MO has changed. Appears that there is no guarantee of the girl actually staying with you and if you don't keep buying and buying its off to find another willing cash machine.
What's going on here? Is it that bad? Is it just in the big bars / clubs or is this across the board.
If I'm buying a girl a lady drink I EXPECT her to stay at least 20 minutes or so. If this new system IS the norm I can see me boycotting those bars that operate this way.
I work on the MO that the girl has to convince me to BF her, be f'ed if I put up with this shit!
NI.
[QUOTE=Davey1965;2890101]That's too bad. If she looked like the pic you posted I would be bummed out too. She's pretty hot.[/QUOTE]Yeah, Thai girls tend to be very picky, even when being paid. If you're not 25, a millionaire they really don't want to be with you.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2889996]I no longer buy medications from street vendors, I either bring from home or go to pharmacy. My last such purchase was from a tiny pharmacy on Soi 15 just a few steps from Sukhumvit on the left. No prescription was required.[/QUOTE]Technically a prescription is required, but some of the smaller pharmacies will over look this. Fake meds have been found with both street and pharmacies. YMMV.