Bangkok Reports

Or send me a DM on black caviar. I spent my last trip confirming / establishing connections with mamas and papas I've known for years. Basically I wanted to see who survived covid. Didn't make it to black caviar but it's in the general vicinity of where the Lord used to be. Curious about the place but ran out of time (and will). The good days are long gone. I'm lucky if I can find one girl I'm interested in in Huai Kwang let alone any particular business. Damn the business, it's all about the product for me.

I have been to the pimp with local affluent Thais with high level memberships. Not my kind of place, music is loud, girls generally leave only with regulars but there are exceptions. Can't remember what it cost for a girl's time but I wasn't paying I was just using someone's membership for whatever I was drinking and for a girl I wasn't really interested in just because the people I was with had regulars that they were chatting up and I was a third wheel to both of them. Only thing I remember is the girl insisted on playing rock, paper, scissors about every 10 min. Weird as hell. We weren't playing for anything just bouncing our fists in our palms. Didn't speak much English either if I remember correctly.

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2896248]Thanks for the reply. Yes, Maria looks on par with La Belle. I have been to Poseidon and Emmanuel in years past. They run lots of girls and offer good value, but certainly not luxury soapies comparable to The Lord. I have uncovered a place called Black Caviar which looks appealing that I will be checking out. I know there are many high-end places in Bangkok that just never get reported on. The G clubs in Bangkok are probably on my list to visit as well. I have never been to The Pimp but it looks like it is a lot of fun (if that place is still in business).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2896502]
Edit: just found another one where services include 'can lick my sister'[/QUOTE]Not 100% sure what that means, but I'm 100% sure it does not mean her sister will be there too and that you can lick her.

Probably it means you can be customer #9 that day to lick her pussy.

Over the past few weeks, Fiw Fans ladies are beginning to refuse foreigner customers. This has got to stop guys. Here is what I was told by one lady. Foreigners book sessions and never show up. Foreigners make first contact in line with no profile photo and refuse to share it, the ladies want some kind of identity verification for their safety. They send your photo to a friend or the booking agent saves it just in case you make a problem with the girl they booked you with. Foreigners have many questions and many demands and they talk too much. You guys need to understand something before you ruin the sideline game in Bangkok for foreigners. These girls have set up shop to find Thai customers. That is why the website is in Thai Language. It's not rocket science you. Why can't you guys understand this????? Their English will not be that good or even non existent. Second of all, the Thai pricing in Bangkok is roughly the same as the Farang prices in Pattaya for Fls. They are cheap. 900-1500ST. If you guys don't stop this nonsense, the prices will go up for us or Fiw Fans will be completely ruined for foreigners. Thai men just contact the girl, make the appointment and then go do the deed and then pay. Often paying first. Yes, that's right first. Paying first in the faring world of FLs is a no no, but sometimes with Fiw Fans you need to pay upfront. I have never been ripped off once. Why? Because you are in the girl's place. They won't cause trouble in their own rented hotel room or condo.

So, in summary, don't book the lady unless you are planning to go 100%. Don't talk too much and make demand after demand. These girls don't speak English. Get this through your thick heads! Its not rocket science. If they ask you to pay upfront, which they will if it's your first time booking the lady, pay it. Take the money out and put it on the side table. She even sent me screen shots of some of the stupid messages you guys send. They are actually ridiculous. Some of the English is even worse then what google translate spits out for the girls. Its really pathetic. This is the only website or forum I know where the guys know about Fiw Fans. The forums have no idea about this scene. If some do, it's very few in a limited capacity. That's why I know that you guys are the ones doing these things.

If you guys keep this nonsense up, be prepared to go back to the Bangkok Tinder, TF, or Thermae cafe freelancers and pay 3000ST instead of 900-1500 on Fiw Fans. It's your choice. Stop ruining this for everyone else. OMG.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2896627]Over the past few weeks, Fiw Fans ladies are beginning to refuse foreigner customers. This has got to stop guys. Here is what I was told by one lady. Foreigners book sessions and never show up. Foreigners make first contact in line with no profile photo and refuse to share it, the ladies want some kind of identity verification for their safety. They send your photo to a friend or the booking agent saves it just in case you make a problem with the girl they booked you with. Foreigners have many questions and many demands and they talk too much. You guys need to understand something before you ruin the sideline game in Bangkok for foreigners. These girls have set up shop to find Thai customers. That is why the website is in Thai Language. It's not rocket science you. Why can't you guys understand this????? Their English will not be that good or even non existent. Second of all, the Thai pricing in Bangkok is roughly the same as the Farang prices in Pattaya for Fls. They are cheap. 900-1500ST. If you guys don't stop this nonsense, the prices will go up for us or Fiw Fans will be completely ruined for foreigners. Thai men just contact the girl, make the appointment and then go do the deed and then pay. Often paying first. Yes, that's right first. Paying first in the faring world of FLs is a no no, but sometimes with Fiw Fans you need to pay upfront. I have never been ripped off once. Why? Because you are in the girl's place. They won't cause trouble in their own rented hotel room or condo.

So, in summary, don't book the lady unless you are planning to go 100%. Don't talk too much and make demand after demand. These girls don't speak English. Get this through your thick heads! Its not rocket science. If they ask you to pay upfront, which they will if it's your first time booking the lady, pay it. Take the money out and put it on the side table. She even sent me screen shots of some of the stupid messages you guys send. They are actually ridiculous. Some of the English is even worse then what google translate spits out for the girls. Its really pathetic. This is the only website or forum I know where the guys know about Fiw Fans. The forums have no idea about this scene. If some do, it's very few in a limited capacity. That's why I know that you guys are the ones doing these things.

If you guys keep this nonsense up, be prepared to go back to the Bangkok Tinder, TF, or Thermae cafe freelancers and pay 3000ST instead of 900-1500 on Fiw Fans. It's your choice. Stop ruining this for everyone else. OMG.[/QUOTE]I have never used Fiw Fans, nor do I ever plan to, but you come off annoying af in this post. You're complaining and whining about farangs who use Fiw Fans and how they should do business on a random site as if it will make a difference in terms of the very issue you bring up. I am guessing thousands of farang are using Fiw Fans and how many of those do you think are on this forum? Perhaps a hand full.

Shall be in BKK March 11 to 13. Please contact me if you want to monger together.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2896693]I have never used Fiw Fans, nor do I ever plan to, but you come off annoying af in this post. You're complaining and whining about farangs who use Fiw Fans and how they should do business on a random site as if it will make a difference in terms of the very issue you bring up. I am guessing thousands of farang are using Fiw Fans and how many of those do you think are on this forum? Perhaps a hand full.[/QUOTE]Everything he said in the initial post is correct. Bad behavior will ruin it for all foreigners. Yes, we are fishing in the locals pond when we are using fiwfans and we need to abide by the rules and courtesies there. I used it throughout covid and still do. Yes, if too many foreigners begin to use it and behave badly it will no longer be available to us. And I'm sorry, you can't compare what you see in Pattaya to what you see on fiwfans. Pattaya in my opinion is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

This is a Bangkok-only site isn't it? No way to filter for Pattaya (or no girls working with this platform in Pattaya).

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2896693]I have never used Fiw Fans, nor do I ever plan to, but you come off annoying af in this post. You're complaining and whining about farangs who use Fiw Fans and how they should do business on a random site as if it will make a difference in terms of the very issue you bring up. I am guessing thousands of farang are using Fiw Fans and how many of those do you think are on this forum? Perhaps a hand full.[/QUOTE]I did not find EverythingThai's post as "annoying. " What I am hearing from him is the foreigner is entering into a local world, not respecting nor understanding how it functions, and negatively impacting other foreigners' participation in said local world. In other words, when in Rome, do as the Romans and don't fuck it up for the rest of us.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2896576]With language troubles, I try to avoid complex questions that can be confusing. I'm more direct and simply ask "Will you do sex with no condom?" If I get a positive response I will clarify "Can I finish inside?" Even with those clarifications there are a few times that she resists in the room.

Sometimes there is a price differential between finish inside and finish outside. I recently had an unplanned encounter with a fun massage lady who allowed BBFS finish outside for 2500 and on that day she would not allow finish inside. A couple days later via line she offered CIP for 5000. Meanwhile, down the street some massage shops offer BBFSCIP for 2000 to 3000.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree that Lost In Translation issues are always possible if not probable if you are not direct, simple and crystal clear about it.

You know, I believe there is a built-in cause for a Lost In Translation issue in the way his question was framed; "I like you but I hate to use condoms. Will that be a problem"?

Which is why I asked if he took each of those 7 out of 7 Nana Plaza girls who apparently "agreed" to Bareback sex with him to see if they really meant what he thought they were agreeing to since that is one of those questions where a bad Translation might produce a "Yes" response that really means "No" and vice-versa.

If translated exactly and literally as written, a "Yes" response to that question or even just a nod literally means, "Yes, that would be a problem for me" while a "No" response or a shake of the head would literally mean, "No, that is not a problem for me. ".

Of course, it is statistically impossible that all 20 of the Thermae girls thought they were saying, "No, going Bareback with you is not a problem for me", unless he just happened upon the most desperate, needy, least often taken girls in the place. Or unless he is a recognizable member of a best-selling K-Pop Boy Band. LOL.

Regardless if her answer was "Yes" or "No", with a question put that way into a translation app, I would still want to rephrase the question another way, more simplified, to make sure she understood what I was asking and that I understood what her response meant before I paid the barfine or walked the girl back to my room.

[QUOTE=XXL;2896808]This is a Bangkok-only site isn't it? No way to filter for Pattaya (or no girls working with this platform in Pattaya).[/QUOTE]Thailand wide but most of the ladies are working in the Bangkok region. A couple in Chonburi province as a whole. Why not Pattaya? It's obvious why. They want Thai customers. Pattaya is dominated by foreigners not Thai people. They won't be working there if they want Thai customers. Why? Because of 2 major reasons. Almost 0 English ability. Number 2, they don't like the behavior of foreigners. I myself have been here for 14 years and speak fluent Thai. Therefore, I have been quite successful at using this site up until just a few days ago when the girls started refusing.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2896693]I have never used Fiw Fans, nor do I ever plan to, but you come off annoying af in this post. You're complaining and whining about farangs who use Fiw Fans and how they should do business on a random site as if it will make a difference in terms of the very issue you bring up. I am guessing thousands of farang are using Fiw Fans and how many of those do you think are on this forum? Perhaps a hand full.[/QUOTE]Then you have no idea. It's a website geared towards Thai customers, but in the recent months, members of this community are using it and 90% from this community. Very few other foreigners know about it. So, you have no idea and this post was not directed at you. Therefore, just ignore it. Simple. Where you are wrong is that you state that "Thousands of Farang are using Fiw Fans" You are dead wrong. You didn't read the post you are commenting on. Let me educate you again. This is a website for Thai people, not farangs. Most farangs look and give up after realizing the girls are not foreigner friendly and when they see the website is in Thai language only. Kindly read before commenting or kindly just move on if you have no idea. I belong to all the major mongering forums and discord platforms and people only talk about Fiw Fans here. You underestimate this platform. ISG does and will continue to have a large majority of the mongering guys on here. I know that most farang that know about Fiw fans found out about it on ISG. Some may have randomly came across it while searching online but until they learnt more on here, they would just pass it by because of Thai language.Thanks and sorry for the way I come across but what I say is absolutely true. Cheers.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2896627]Over the past few weeks, Fiw Fans ladies are beginning to refuse foreigners.
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Here is what I was told by one lady. Foreigners book sessions and never show up. Foreigners make first contact in line with no profile photo and refuse to share it, the ladies want some kind of identity verification for their safety. They send your photo to a friend or the booking agent saves it just in case you make a problem with the girl they booked you with. Foreigners have many questions and many demands and they talk too much.
[/QUOTE]Did she mean they talk too much in the room during the session or they talk too much on Line and with the booking agent?

If the latter, I would say these foreigners' behavior have all the earmarks of lonely dudes sitting in their home country at a computer screwing around just to amuse themselves and see what they can "negotiate" and for how much with no intention of ever leaving their home country or showing up to monger here or anywhere else.

Similar to some of the posers we find ourselves jousting and interact with here on this message board. LOL.

Sure, they probably heard about Fiwfans here. But asking real punters who actually show up to play and have 1,500-2,000 Baht that they would gladly part with for a good session with a young lovely who genuinely delivers and actually resembles her photo, to stop messing around with the girls in the way you described is probably targeting the wrong pool of members here.

And the likely culpable dudes I described above have nothing to lose even if their messing with it shuts Fiwfans down to "foreigners" from here to eternity. They are never going be here with 1,500 Baht in their pocket and a determination to spend it getting laid anyway.

Just sayin'.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2896842]Thailand wide but most of the ladies are working in the Bangkok region. A couple in Chonburi province as a whole. Why not Pattaya? It's obvious why. They want Thai customers. Pattaya is dominated by foreigners not Thai people. They won't be working there if they want Thai customers. Why? Because of 2 major reasons. Almost 0 English ability. Number 2, they don't like the behavior of foreigners. I myself have been here for 14 years and speak fluent Thai. Therefore, I have been quite successful at using this site up until just a few days ago when the girls started refusing.[/QUOTE]So basically you are saying us to stop using Fiwfans? : the.

Well that ain't going to happen anyways. Ofc I don't belong to those who mistreats or misbehave. But still I don't think you have the "right" to say me (or others) to not use this site.

I use, and will continue using it. Although I understand your issue, and even though I had zero contribution to that cause, I still feel bad about it. But if you're saying to stay completely out of it? Well that ain't going to happen.

Just because its in Thai, this doesn't mean its only for Thais. They do have preference to thai I can understand, that why they rejects, BUT they accepts also.

Infact, like you said, you are also not Thai but are using it right? So what about hypocrisy of restricting it to only Thai people? : the. Because learning a new languange is not that big of a deal.

But seems like you want to be ONLY foreigner who uses it ideally. HAHA not happening.

Secret. Bargirls do not talk about Farangs favorably. It's them saying it not me.

I do believe there a lot of Hot Girls who would rather make less and not deal with Rowdy Foreigners.

Do Asians get turned down at Rainbows? Yes but nowhere near the rate farangs and Brownies get turned down.

No offense but in a high class joint like Rainbow 5 I often see Fatangs groping for the price of 1 drink. Come on groping price is 40 drinks.

[QUOTE=TiredOf;2896868]So basically you are saying us to stop using Fiwfans? : the.

Well that ain't going to happen anyways. Ofc I don't belong to those who mistreats or misbehave. But still I don't think you have the "right" to say me (or others) to not use this site.

I use, and will continue using it. Although I understand your issue, and even though I had zero contribution to that cause, I still feel bad about it. But if you're saying to stay completely out of it? Well that ain't going to happen.

Just because its in Thai, this doesn't mean its only for Thais. They do have preference to thai I can understand, that why they rejects, BUT they accepts also.

Infact, like you said, you are also not Thai but are using it right? So what about hypocrisy of restricting it to only Thai people? : the. Because learning a new languange is not that big of a deal.

But seems like you want to be ONLY foreigner who uses it ideally. HAHA not happening.[/QUOTE]I think you've misunderstood what EverthingThai is saying. Nowhere does he say anyone should stop using Fiwfans. He is simply saying that those who do use it should not cause problems for others by being too demanding, rude, disrespectful, and not understanding how the girls / agents work. It's pretty straightforward really; I've used the site without any problem, just follow the rules and enjoy.