General Reports

[QUOTE=Makeupaname;1222223]DH is a domestic helper, a maid. There are maybe 100, 000 (?) in Hong Kong. Mostly filipina or indonesian. Working on a very little salary, many try to get a little extra income on their time off or holiday, but most don't have the same sex experience as working girls.[/QUOTE]D / H VS W / L.

Firstly there are about 240, 000 the / H in HK.

Equally distributed between Indo / Filipina and a few from Thailand, Sri Lanka and India.

Sex experience / ability.

D / H tend to be older. You'd be surprised how many are over 30. Filipina and Indonesian's D / H have a good reputation for being horny. Don't call Indo's Brown F. Ing machines for no reason.

Usually a D / H is happy to get 500. And will give aN ENJOYABLE experience.

You need to understand the mentality of D / H who visit Wanchai. They are naughty girls! And happily talk to their friends about their conquests.

W / L.

Like anything punting is a game of chance. If you talk strictly about Wanchai Bar girls. You will get some good and some bad. Some will charge reasonably, some charge alot.

I think if you are only talking about girls in Wanchai bars. Probably better value paying 500 to a D / H. Then pay 1500/2000 for a W / L. Of course this 500 rate is only available Sat / sun afternoon / evenings of public holidays. And won't suit many travellers.

Thinking more about girls asking 2 or 3 or 4 K in bars like Escape / Neptune. And girls often stopping after one pop. In some cases you are better getting a quick take-away from a Go Go Bar. One drink / one for the lady. And you can get them for 2000. And they stay for 2 hours and provide a full service. Multiple pops.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1222056]My recent experiences and exploits led me to the conclusion that fewer and fewer girls are asking about condoms etc than in previous years and are happy to go BB. I suspect some are on the pill to avoid preganancy, and the risk of STD does not enter their minds. DH's are the worst offenders! Any comment Chantik? One girl I met was happy to go BB after she knew I'd cum.

Still better playing safe, however.[/QUOTE]I am certain that most Indo D / H are not on any birth control. Unsure about Filipina's.

At the moment Indo girls seem to want to have babies with Gwailo men. Father or no Father.

Safe Sex is compulsory with any D / H.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1221704]I want to publicly thank Chantik for her informative posts. I think it is very valuable to have a WL posting in our forum. Here's to you Chantik![/QUOTE]I agree too. And let me add that her POV are not only informative but "monger-friendly".

In most of the cases we are used to read from girls in here trying to sell their services.

In this case she gives hints, information of good help, including wise advices.

Thanks for your time, Chantik

@Makeupaname: Thanks for your explanation.

@Chantic:

I must be a bit slow today!

Quote:

A: I am certain that most Indo D / H are not on any birth control. Unsure about Filipina's.

B: At the moment Indo girls seem to want to have babies with Gwailo men. Father or no Father.

C: Safe Sex is compulsory with any D / H.

Statements A and B make sense together.

Statement C makes sense from the D / H's employers POV, but how do the D / H achieve their goal of having gwailo babies, whilst practicing safe sex?

[QUOTE=Daddy San; 1222315]@Makeupaname: Thanks for your explanation.

@Chantic:

I must be a bit slow today!

Quote:

A: I am certain that most Indo D / H are not on any birth control. Unsure about Filipina's.

B: At the moment Indo girls seem to want to have babies with Gwailo men. Father or no Father.

C: Safe Sex is compulsory with any D / H.

Statements A and B make sense together.

Statement C makes sense from the D / H's employers POV, but how do the D / H achieve their goal of having gwailo babies, whilst practicing safe sex?[/QUOTE]Many of the guys have g / f/wives so safety is important.

They must insist that condoms are used.

And don't forget some of the D / H can have 2 or 3 guys on their day off.

I'm staying at the Ritz in HK for one day and would like to hear your recommendations for where to go nearby (or easy to get to) for a full service GFE with a cute, young Chinese gal. A FS soapy massage sounds like fun. Where to go and what should I expect to pay?

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1222296]I agree too. And let me add that her POV are not only informative but "monger-friendly".

In most of the cases we are used to read from girls in here trying to sell their services.

In this case she gives hints, information of good help, including wise advices.

Thanks for your time, Chantik[/QUOTE]I agree with Bionicman here, I find her advices and tips very informative and interesting read. Gives me as a visitor a bit more info about how to go about.

I was also interested to read about what she said about quick take away in the go go bars. I know a lot of guys have said that they are rip offs in terms of prices but how about the girls there? There is less hassle in negotiations and it must be you get what you pay? For 2 hours, are the girls allow to go with you to your hotel room? I've always been less inclined to walk into one becoz of the negative reviews but I think that now Chantik has shed new light, I think that I should try it out.

Many years ago, while still a hot blooded teenager, a friend and I, barely out of our teens walked into one in kowloon and they had south amrican, thai and hk girls.

On another note, any news on the scene on kowloon side, hari's bar or any other places?

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1222270]I am certain that most Indo D / H are not on any birth control. Unsure about Filipina's.

At the moment Indo girls seem to want to have babies with Gwailo men. Father or no Father.

Safe Sex is compulsory with any D / H.[/QUOTE]The pill still isn't very common in Asia in general. I've never known a DH who was on it. I wouldn't take any WL or DH's word for it!

As for me I only BB once I know the girl and I NEVER blow a load in her pussy. I always put on a condom before shooting or cum in her mouth.

[QUOTE=Double Shooter; 1221814]The Shooter just spent one night in HK accompanied by "BossFromHell", the hard-drinking workaholic whose prudish nature puts the kibosh on all mongering activities.

The cost? HK$390 for the ST hotel and 1500 for the lady. Absurdly expensive yes, but the experience was priceless, [/QUOTE]Mastercard?

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1222270]At the moment Indo girls seem to want to have babies with Gwailo men. Father or no Father.

Safe Sex is compulsory with any D / H.[/QUOTE]If you are saying they are not typically trying to track down the father for financial support, then really? What's up with that? Are they counting on a sense of duty or guilt on the man's part?

The result certainly sounds like a deal-ender for employment in HK as a D / H, plus another one to support (with no job) once they go back to Indonesia. And there is no stigma attached once they return?

Yes, Chantik, after tangling with you earlier on the point of buying lady drinks, I would say your contributions are appreciated. Also, you mentioned barfining go-go girls. There is scant information on that on the ISG, and I have assumed most of the Wan Chai gogos are ripoffs. Have you met any men who have been satifsified with that take-away option?

Cheers.

This up coming trip for me will be the first for me to HK. I'm chatting with a Filipino D / H now and she telling me the same what is being mentioned in the forum, that she is locked up Mon-Sat and then on Sun she is "aloud to go play". Is legal for the employers to do this to the D / H? To prevent them to not socialize outside the house after work hours and have a life? This practice sounds much like a indentured servant instead of a nanny. WTF?

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1222267]D / H VS W / L.

Firstly there are about 240, 000 the / H in HK.

Equally distributed between Indo / Filipina and a few from Thailand, Sri Lanka and India.

Sex experience / ability.

D / H tend to be older. You'd be surprised how many are over 30. Filipina and Indonesian's D / H have a good reputation for being horny. Don't call Indo's Brown F. Ing machines for no reason.

Usually a D / H is happy to get 500. And will give aN ENJOYABLE experience.

You need to understand the mentality of D / H who visit Wanchai. They are naughty girls! And happily talk to their friends about their conquests.

W / L.

Like anything punting is a game of chance. If you talk strictly about Wanchai Bar girls. You will get some good and some bad. Some will charge reasonably, some charge alot.

I think if you are only talking about girls in Wanchai bars. Probably better value paying 500 to a D / H. Then pay 1500/2000 for a W / L. Of course this 500 rate is only available Sat / sun afternoon / evenings of public holidays. And won't suit many travellers.

Thinking more about girls asking 2 or 3 or 4 K in bars like Escape / Neptune. And girls often stopping after one pop. In some cases you are better getting a quick take-away from a Go Go Bar. One drink / one for the lady. And you can get them for 2000. And they stay for 2 hours and provide a full service. Multiple pops.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1222380]If you are saying they are not typically trying to track down the father for financial support, then really? What's up with that? Are they counting on a sense of duty or guilt on the man's part?

The result certainly sounds like a deal-ender for employment in HK as a D / H, plus another one to support (with no job) once they go back to Indonesia. And there is no stigma attached once they return?

Yes, Chantik, after tangling with you earlier on the point of buying lady drinks, I would say your contributions are appreciated. Also, you mentioned barfining go-go girls. There is scant information on that on the ISG, and I have assumed most of the Wan Chai gogos are ripoffs. Have you met any men who have been satifsified with that take-away option?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Your post seems to assume that these DHs are thinking things through. Clearly they aren't. I'm not sure what country you're from but you have no doubt seen that in many western countries, people are having babies they can't afford, many of them young and single. I'm not sure about Indonesia but in Philippines single motherhood seems to be the rule rather than the exception.

I have only taken a girl out of a gogo bar once. I was taking a friend back to his hotel room and on the way down I saw a hot little Filipina I instantly knew was a WL. I asked her to come with me and she said she was obligated to return to work immediately. Turned out she worked in a gogo bar and was due back at a certain time from her recently completed appointment. So I rode in the taxi back with her to her gogo bar (I don't remember which one) and told the mamasan I wanted to take her out. I don't remember exactly how much I paid but I seem to remember it being a bit more than typical ST, maybe 1200, but she was a great fuck with a really tight pussy so I was happy. This was a unique situation obviously, normally I wouldn't go to a gogo bar and I don't even usually go to Wan Chai anyway.

[QUOTE=SexPerimenter; 1222337]I'm staying at the Ritz in HK for one day and would like to hear your recommendations for where to go nearby (or easy to get to) for a full service GFE with a cute, young Chinese gal. A FS soapy massage sounds like fun. Where to go and what should I expect to pay?

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]When you are in a supermarket standing in front of the bread counter, do you ask the Bread counter staff where the bread is.

You are now at the Bread counter, stand back, review the breads. All the bread you ever wanted was here.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket;1222453]Your post seems to assume that these DHs are thinking things through. Clearly they aren't. I'm not sure what country you're from but you have no doubt seen that in many western countries, people are having babies they can't afford, many of them young and single. .[/QUOTE]Johnny Rocket: Thanks for your insight, particularly with the gogo girl takeout. Might be worth a try at HK$1200 though I think Chantkik's figure of $2K plus the drinks is a bit high (like double what I'd regular pay to a Wan Chai WG out of Amazonia or Nep II / III, but suppose par for the course for the go-gos. I have walked past a few lookers on Lockhart Road (amid the plethora of old haggy McHag touts) outside those musty clubs and wondered whether snatch really existed on the other side of the rainbow. .

As to the Indo D / Hs having mixed kids, well, I'm from the USA, where siring a kid means CHILD SUPPORT and then some, regardless of the circumstances (damn, judge, I wuz stone drunk and the beee-yotch done stuck my thingy in her twat. Well, good luck with that, suckuh!) I am just a bit suprised that, if Chanktik is correct, this is some kind of trend (like chihuahua puppies. Oh, so cute!) of reuniting with the family in Jakarta with the latest Chia pet in tow! Seriously, I find it a bit odd that any Westerner would not at all be concerned about his offspring (money shot, inside, uncovered) , but damn, call me old-fashioned.

[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1222257]Are you kidding? Some of my best Saturday / Sunday afternoons have been spent in the company of DH's. What they may lack in experience, they make up in enthusiasm! In addition, very rarely do they discuss money. They are over the moon to get $500.[/QUOTE]I also generally prefer a DH than a working girl. I just meant a DH is less likely to know about STDs, birth control, shaving, douching, fetishes, etc. But the sex can be great with a horny DH.