Phnom Penh

Thanks for your replies guys. I have already bought some USD here in Pattaya where I am now.

For a better rate than I thought. The difference between selling or buying USD is really small.

[QUOTE=Shivajii;1673380]Maybe he has to pay definitely with USD. I paid with yesterday. (but exchange rate 1:1 so not good).
[/QUOTE]Maybe a few months down the road with Mario Draghi we can consider 1:1 an excellent rate.

On my last day in PP I was strolling through riverside area about 7 pm, dropping into some of the bars. Gave The what Phnom area a try and found a rather cute 22-25 year old girl. 10 $ Shorttime in some nearby 2 USD hotel. Not really my style but warmed up to the evening.

Walking down the lower end of 110 street, some motodop approached me and tried to lure me into ""see nice girls". Alrite, why not, I thought.

After offering me a whole s*load of drugs (which I politely declined) he told me to give him my cell so that he could take some pics of the girls and then introduce me to the one I liked.

Well both my suspicions and my curiosity was aroused. Of course I did NOT give him my cell, although I carry an outdated and cleansed device with a 10 USD prepaid card and with NO personal data at all.

Well he reconsidered, took me around what Phnom (where I just got from), parked nearby and left to"get pics". Got back with an Iphone 3 and about 15-20 pics of girls. Some really cute 18-25.

Offered "100 USD". I turned away, he offered 50 and then 30. Apparently the deal was that I pick my girl, he drops me off at short time hotel and mamasan would bring the girl.

Well I gave him 2 USD for his troubles but decided to walk back to riverside, it sounded all too much like some kind of setup.

I do not carry much cash and no wallet, watch or fancy phone, and I am actually not afraid of strongarming a bit. Still. I would advise fellow punters to stay out of such deals.

BTW owing to handy biz travel (yay) I"ll be back in PP March 14th. If anyone would like to meet for a cold one I'm game.

[QUOTE=Ekspat;1673922]Maybe a few months down the road with Mario Draghi we can consider 1:1 an excellent rate.[/QUOTE]Well a few YEARS from now on Italians might readopt the Lira. Euro goes down the drain in a hurry.

Arrived in Phnom Penh Monday with Air Asia around 4:30 PM. Took a tuk tuk to my hotel around 5:15 PM so in the middle of rush hour. It took about one hour to get there. Now I don't mind that so much but the down side is you're inhaling 99% exhaust fumes and maybe 1% oxygen.

I was very tired so I didn't go out Monday night.

Tuesday night I went to Wat Phnom around 8:30 PM. Just out of curiosity. I didn't expect much of it based on the reviews here but I just wanted to know what the SW scene is like here in Cambodia compared to Thailand and the Philippines. Well, the quality and quantity were both not too bad. I think there were about 20+ girls sitting at the 'inner circle' of the roundabout around the Wat. No lookers of course but some were rather cute and I had a chat with 3 of them. I finally made a deal with a little spinner: 12 USD + 4 USD for a ST hotel. We took a motorbike and she directed him to a street about 10 minutes away (not far from Sorya Mall as I later found out). I think it was a bad sign that it was so far away so I was wary. But the ST hotel, a guesthouse, and the owners looked OK so I went upstairs with her.

But when I asked her for yum yum (BJ) she suddenly started to renegotiate. Probably because she had only offered massage + boom boom; I should have known. She wanted 20 USD but I didn't want to offer more than 15. She declined and when I found out I was not allowed to touch her anywhere and she refused DATY I had enough of it. So I got dressed again. She started yelling at me that I had to give her 10 USD for her time and the motorbike back. I said I would only give her 5 and that was already too generous. She called somebody and tried to block the door but that did not intimidate me. I gave her 5 dollar, pushed her aside and went downstairs. I could hear that someone answered her call and was a little worried that he (most likely) would await me downstairs but that was not the case. I walked a couple of blocks, nobody was following me, and I took a motorbike to the riverside. Phew!

To be continued....

I popped into the Angry Birds Bar at Street 130 only to find out, once again, that I really don't like these hostess bars. But I just wanted to give it a try one more time. I guess I like to be more 'anonymous' and be able to pick a girl myself. In these hostess bars I get too much attention from girls that are not to my liking most of the time. And I have to admit I'm a little bit shy and not much of a talker.
The quality in the Angry Birds Bar was quite good but nevertheless I didn't feel at ease so I left after 10 minutes.

I went down the street to Sharky. Now that's a place that hasn't changed a bit in 6 years, everything looks still the same! Except for the ladies, the quantity and quality has certainly gone down compared to 6 years ago and the average age has gone up. Nevertheless there were a few cuties, maybe 3 or 4, and after my first drink I approached the youngest and prettiest one, an 8 in my book. (Yes, I know what you want to say but I'm not always shy. I feel more at ease in a place like Sharky, I'm more in control myself there.)
I could tell she was a bit surprised that I approached her but nevertheless she accepted it, I offered her and the friend she was with ('only' a 7) a drink and we had a chat. Initially the conversation was a bit stiff but the more we got to know each other the better it went. She was a typical Cambodian beauty, not a stunner but simply beautiful. Long black silky hair (not died in some strange colour), beautiful dark brown eyes and a sweet smile. And she was also a nice girl and quite intelligent and witty.

So far so good. But then after about 45 minutes she asked, suddenly a bit shy, if she could go with me. I said 'maybe' and asked how much she wanted for a ST of 1 or 2 hours.
She said 'how much can you give me?
Hmmm, always tricky. I thought about it for a moment and decided to start the negotiation quite low, so I said '20 dollars'.
She was shocked. Really, it was not an act. She was really shocked. She said 'look at me!'.
So I asked 'how much do you want then?'
She said '60, for 1 hour'.
Now I was the one who was shocked. I'm willing to pay that for an agogo stunner in Thailand (and then I negotiate 2 hours) but not for a FL in Cambodia, pretty or not (and in Sharky of all places, not really high end after all).
We negotiated a little bit more and finally she dropped to 50 but that was it. I said 'no way' and she went to the bathroom and didn't return to our table. End of story.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1675337]But when I asked her for yum yum (BJ) she suddenly started to renegotiate. Probably because she had only offered massage + boom boom; I should have known. She wanted 20 USD but I didn't want to offer more than 15. She declined and when I found out I was not allowed to touch her anywhere and she refused DATY I had enough of it. So I got dressed again. She started yelling at me that I had to give her 10 USD for her time and the motorbike back. I said I would only give her 5 and that was already too generous. She called somebody and tried to block the door but that did not intimidate me. I gave her 5 dollar, pushed her aside and went downstairs. I could hear that someone answered her call and was a little worried that he (most likely) would await me downstairs but that was not the case. I walked a couple of blocks, nobody was following me, and I took a motorbike to the riverside. Phew![/QUOTE]Excuse me but you are telling me you are afraid of a 18 yo girl from the countryside and you gave her 5 $ for yelling at you and no service?

I would have kicked her out and give her nothing period.

I pay for a service not for BS excuse. Khmer girls can miam miam if they want to. They use that as an excuse because they are lazy and want money for nothing.

You gave her 5 $ for nothing then she would try that scam with another foreigner next time.

Be sure she wouldn't try this with a khmer guy because she would get a slap in her face.

Of course I would never do that but I would make sure she understands I'm in charge and not her.

In that case you call security and send her packing period. This is your room not hers.

After the girl in Sharky 'ditched' me it was around 12 PM, the place was getting empty and all of the cuties were gone. So what next? I didn't have much luck this evening and I was a bit fed up with that. I thought about Martini but that's quite far away and I wasn't in the mood for the trip. So I decided to go to the Walkabout.

The 'line up' there was nothing to write home about and I was out of luck once again when another punter approached the only real cute girl present just a second before I was about to make my move. Damn!
I looked around, saw only a few doable girls, selected one with a sweet smile, made sure she would give me a BJ, agreed on 20 USD and off we went.
She was 26, her face was a 7 and she was friendly but her body was only a 6. She had quite severe stretch marks on her titties and belly. Her BJ was only average but she enjoyed DATY and she had a smooth and tight pussy that really 'grabbed' my dick. The harder I bonked her the harder she grabbed me and it felt great. I was horny after 2 days of 'celibacy' so I shot my load pretty quick. Ah, that's better!

The next day (yesterday) I took a look at Golden Sorya Mall. Tuesday afternoon I already went to Sorya Shopping Center because I thought that the reports here were referring to that Sorya. I was wondering 'FLs in Sorya? I can hardly believe that but okay let's have a look'. Of course I found nothing. So I re-read the reports and found out that you guys were talking about Golden Sorya, LOL!
Well, they can better replace 'golden' with 'bronze' or some other cheap metal. Geez, what a dump this place is. There were about a dozen girls hanging around there and they were nothing special. But maybe I was a bit too late (around 5 PM) so I might give it another try one of these days.
And maybe it was just a coincidence but the majority of these girls looked rather skinny.

Yesterday evening I was more lucky when a motorbike drove me to a local brothel. To be continued....

[QUOTE=PrisonBreak;1675557]Excuse me but you are telling me you are afraid of a 18 yo girl from the countryside and you gave her 5 $ for yelling at you and no service?

I would have kicked her out and give her nothing period.

I pay for a service not for BS excuse. Khmer girls can miam miam if they want to. They use that as an excuse because they are lazy and want money for nothing.

You gave her 5 $ for nothing then she would try that scam with another foreigner next time.

Be sure she wouldn't try this with a khmer guy because she would get a slap in her face.

Of course I would never do that but I would make sure she understands I'm in charge and not her.

In that case you call security and send her packing period. This is your room not hers.[/QUOTE]Of course I was not afraid for this tiny Khmer girl. But I was afraid for whoever she was calling (a male friend or pimp or more than one) would show up and beat the shit out of me. Things like that happen here as we all know.

And calling security? In a ST hotel run by Khmer guys? I don't think so.

But if you take the risk in such a case and kick her out, be my guest. I'm not such a hero (or fool).

I wanted to find out if there are still 'barang friendly' local brothels, as a follow up to post #5739 up to and including #5742. So yesterday evening I went to street 63 where there used to be at least two back in 2009. They are indeed gone, as reported by Kenny Rogers, but I figured if I would ask a motorbike driver right there on the spot (they are always around after all) where all the ladies have gone he might point me in the right direction. And I was lucky. Although his English was limited the guy I asked apparently understood what I was talking about and mentioned the name of a place in Khmer. I said 'whatever, please take me there'.

At first I thought he was taking me to what Phnom but he drove further and went down Sisowath Quay. Aha, I think I know where we are going. And yes, he was going in the direction of the Cambodia-Japan Friendship Bridge. Not far before that bridge, after a school on the left side of the road, there are some 'massage parlors' (yeah right). Back in 2009 I went there a couple of times to 'do' a real sweety pie. So they are still there and if I remember correctly there are even a couple of parlors more now.

He stopped in front of one of the parlors, somewhere in the middle. It was clear he was going to get commission so I was prepared to pay a high(er) price. The friendly man and woman that run the place had 3 'sisters' as the man called them jokingly. Only one of them was pretty and although she didn't really smile she didn't gave me an unfriendly look either so I chose her. The woman quoted me 25 USD, I said 20 and she agreed.
The girl was 19, a little spinner with a flawless body and reasonably sweet and friendly. Her BBBJ was, once again, only average. To my surprise she accepted DATY and seemed to like it very much. I was even allowed to lick her sweet little butt hole, which she seemed to like even more. Pussy and butt hole were both immaculately clean by the way so it was a real pleasure to DATY.
CFS was OK. She was not really tight and didn't want to do doggy because of my size but her pussy felt good enough for me to finish after about 5 minutes.

I think I will go back there tonight to check out the other parlors.
On the way there I also saw girls sitting on benches on the right side of the road (Sisowath Quay). They must be working girls as I can think of no other reason for them to sit there. There's nothing to see or do around those benches.
However the bike was driving too fast and it was too dark to see their age and 'quality'.

Although I do walk a different path when I was in PP last November, I really do like your very detailed reports. Keep them coming Mogwai.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1675337]Arrived in Phnom Penh Monday with Air Asia around 4:30 PM. Took a tuk tuk to my hotel around 5:15 PM so in the middle of rush hour. It took about one hour to get there. Now I don't mind that so much but the down side is you're inhaling 99% exhaust fumes and maybe 1% oxygen.

I was very tired so I didn't go out Monday night.

Tuesday night I went to Wat Phnom around 8:30 PM. Just out of curiosity. I didn't expect much of it based on the reviews here but I just wanted to know what the SW scene is like here in Cambodia compared to Thailand and the Philippines. Well, the quality and quantity were both not too bad. I think there were about 20+ girls sitting at the 'inner circle' of the roundabout around the Wat. No lookers of course but some were rather cute and I had a chat with 3 of them. I finally made a deal with a little spinner: 12 USD + 4 USD for a ST hotel. We took a motorbike and she directed him to a street about 10 minutes away (not far from Sorya Mall as I later found out). I think it was a bad sign that it was so far away so I was wary. But the ST hotel, a guesthouse, and the owners looked OK so I went upstairs with her.

But when I asked her for yum yum (BJ) she suddenly started to renegotiate. Probably because she had only offered massage + boom boom; I should have known. She wanted 20 USD but I didn't want to offer more than 15. She declined and when I found out I was not allowed to touch her anywhere and she refused DATY I had enough of it. So I got dressed again. She started yelling at me that I had to give her 10 USD for her time and the motorbike back. I said I would only give her 5 and that was already too generous. She called somebody and tried to block the door but that did not intimidate me. I gave her 5 dollar, pushed her aside and went downstairs. I could hear that someone answered her call and was a little worried that he (most likely) would await me downstairs but that was not the case. I walked a couple of blocks, nobody was following me, and I took a motorbike to the riverside. Phew!

To be continued....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Samui69;1675733]Although I do walk a different path when I was in PP last November, I really do like your very detailed reports. Keep them coming Mogwai.[/QUOTE]Sure, I will keep me... sorry 'them' coming!
And I know you walked a different path, I've read your great stories on the Dutch forum. You focus more on the high end of P4 P.

Last night I went back to Sisowath Quay near the Friendship bridge. However I could not find a girl to my liking, most of them were quite old and dogs, and I didn't want to repeat the girl I had yesterday. I'm trying to avoid repeats as I'm only here for one week. I could have booked for a longer time but I wasn't so sure if I would still like Phnom Penh after 6 years of absence. And I'm still not sure to be honest, despite the good experience I had later on last night. Things have definitely changed here and you can either choose to adapt to that, which takes time and effort, or not and move on.

As said I could not find a girl to my liking so I asked the motor driver if he knew similar places. 'Khmer or Vietnamese girls?' he asked. 'Doesn't matter' I said. Later I realized I should have said Vietnamese because the old brothels that are gone now had mostly (or even exclusively) Vietnamese girls.
He said he knew a place with pretty young girls. OK, go for it. He drove back to the centre and stopped in a small alley not far from Central Market. There was a mamasan with one girl: big breasted, a bit chubby, only average looking and around 25 yo. I asked if she had any other girls (I didn't want to say 'prettier'). Big breasted girl looked disappointed and the mama didn't look very pleased either but nevertheless she went away to 'collect' some other girls from god knows where. They showed up one by one but unfortunately they were all quite average.
There was one pretty girl. She came from upstairs in the brothel but she walked away quickly and shook her head when I pointed at her, LOL!
I decided to give it a try anyway and picked a sweet looking girl. Well, she was indeed very sweet and her body was OK but she really didn't have a clue how to turn on a man. Yum yum and DATY were not on the menu and she tried to get me hard with an unskilled HJ. In vain, it was useless. So I gave up after 5 minutes and left the place, leaving behind a puzzled looking Khmer girl.

It was around 9:30 PM and I decided to go to Sharky. It was quite full, there was a live band playing and the atmosphere was good. Apparently it's still a popular place. But the average age of the punters is 50 I think and the average age of the ladies is 35. But maybe I'm too kind here and it does not include the young girls who work there (some really cute).
About 80% of the ladies was MILF and average or below average, 10% was MILF and (reasonably) good looking and the remaining 10% consisted of younger girls who were average or good looking. All in all there were maybe 35 or 40 girls.
What strikes me was that the younger good looking girls were not 'jumped upon' by the punters. Apparently we have different taste or they were too shy. Good for me!

I was sitting close to the pool table and an attractive young and cheerful girl who was playing a game started to flirt with me. I liked her at first sight. In between the games she was playing she was sitting with me and we had a nice chat. It 'clicked' almost right away.
She told me she was from the province, 40 km from Phnom Penh, and was only in town for 3 days. She's 23, works in the textile industry and earns 200 USD a month. She lives with her mother and some siblings and has a 2 yo baby girl. The father ran off after 4 months of marriage. 'Cambodia men no good, drink too much, smoke too much, hit me, butterflies' etc. We all know the stories.
At first I was drinking orange juice and when I ordered a beer later on she looked concerned. Bad experiences with the combination men & alcohol I suppose. She looked reassured when I told her I would only drink one (I hardly ever drink more).

I took her to my hotel and we had a great session. She had a firm slightly chubby body, was a good kisser, and loved DATY. But above all she loved to fuck. Man, this was one of the horniest girls I've ever met. We fucked like rabbits for half an hour until I shot my load on her firm but nicely shaped butt.
We both cleaned up, laid down on the bed and cuddled a bit. After 5 minutes she started playing with my dick and wanted a second round already. I hardly ever do that, one round is usually enough for me, but she was so damn horny that I gave in. We fucked for another 15 minutes and then I had enough. She didn't but hey who's paying who here? LOL!

I slipped 20 USD in one of her trouser pockets. We had not discussed a price beforehand. In the elevator downstairs she asked for another 10 USD. '20 for mama and 10 for me' she said. Who can resist that when you just had a great session with a lovely sweet lady. I can't. And beside that I can understand she wants to make as much money as possible in the 3 days she's here.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1675607]Of course I was not afraid for this tiny Khmer girl. But I was afraid for whoever she was calling (a male friend or pimp or more than one) would show up and beat the shit out of me. Things like that happen here as we all know.

And calling security? In a ST hotel run by Khmer guys? I don't think so.

But if you take the risk in such a case and kick her out, be my guest. I'm not such a hero (or fool).[/QUOTE]It doesn't happen to me because I try not to find myself in this kind of situation.

You did 2 mistakes. The first one you already told about it you weren't precise enough about the service she would provide.

If a girl tells me she will provide miam miam and boum boum (they all understand that here more than BJ for sure) once in the room if she doesn't provide what she promised the deal is off. I kicked her out. Period. That way they will understand we are in charge not them.

Second mistake you let her choose the ST hotel. So she s still in her comfort zone and you are not because you are afraid she might call a guy she knows. In that case if you don't want to bring her back to your hotel choose a ST hotel yourself give the guy 1 $ at the reception and tell him if there s problem with lady you come to help me. That way you feel safe and you can enjoy.

[QUOTE=PrisonBreak;1676494]It doesn't happen to me because I try not to find myself in this kind of situation.

You did 2 mistakes. The first one you already told about it you weren't precise enough about the service she would provide.

If a girl tells me she will provide miam miam and boum boum (they all understand that here more than BJ for sure) once in the room if she doesn't provide what she promised the deal is off. I kicked her out. Period. That way they will understand we are in charge not them.

Second mistake you let her choose the ST hotel. So she s still in her comfort zone and you are not because you are afraid she might call a guy she knows. In that case if you don't want to bring her back to your hotel choose a ST hotel yourself give the guy 1 $ at the reception and tell him if there s problem with lady you come to help me. That way you feel safe and you can enjoy.[/QUOTE]Yes I know yum yum and boom boom (or however you spell it) are the appropriate words to use here.

I'll keep your advice in mind about the hotel. This was the first time I picked up a SW in Phnom Penh and I don't know any ST hotels around here. So that's why I asked her but with hindsight I should have taken her to my own hotel.