Manila

[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]Has anyone landing in Manila had any experiences with coming with a one way ticket from USA with onward ticket (within 21 days) to Malaysia or similar?

Any problems with this? Do you have to have a roundtrip ticket to the second country or will one way do? Prices for even throw away tickets are going up.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Nothing much for me to add on, other than to state the reason for Immigration asking for return ticket:

Arrival Visa conditions include a return ticket out of the country. While some countries have the right to demand a ticket back to the COO (Country of Origin). You can always get away with it as long as it is a ticket out of the country. And worse case. It is actually none of the immigration's business as long as you have proof that you plan to leave.

Try not to land there without a ticket to somewhere, as that is a clear violation of the conditions of tourist visa, and while some immigration officers may let you buy a ticket, most have a valid excuse to deport you or send you A-to-A on the same carrier you arrived. Scary. A hundred dollar plus can save a lot of hassle.

As suggested, pick a one way MNL/CRK. SIN: with the Air Phil Express, Cebu Pac and Tiger flights, you are bound to get a good LCC fare. Approx about 120 US at the most. Or check MNL-KL on AK/Cebu Pac.

Not to dispute SC, but a ticket to KK maybe an obvious case for BI to ask what the heck you are doing by going to KK, then again that is just an excuse from BI to collect some 'taxes'

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D Cups: To save bandwidth: a few friends did hit on LAC / MBR. And their answer was "same shit in new wrapping. " (or was it Same wine in new bottle?: confused.

[QUOTE=Columpuss]My recollection is that if you come from the States, you don't need a round-trip. Even if you do, purchase a cheap one on the spot but you can return it later minus a small fee.[/QUOTE]

I've been on Cathay Pacific with a friend and they wouldn't let him on the connection flight to Manila unless he bought a ticket out of the Philippines before take off. I think only once have I been asked at immigration for my ticket out of their country.

[QUOTE=Mattrick]You don't even need that! My last trip I booked an award flight from USA to MNL. Returning SIN to USA. In the interim, I booked a one way ticket CRK to SIN on Tiger Air. Nothing was ever said about my itinerary.[/QUOTE]
If you are a repeat visitor with multiple entries and exits they will not look hard at a return ticket. If you are on your first visit or you have a new passport they will probably ask.

I have one friend who modified a E-ticket to match his dates...no questions asked.

I had two newbie's with me and they went through first and both were asked for return tickets and I wasn't asked anything.

Robb

[QUOTE=Key Master]I've been on Cathay Pacific with a friend and they wouldn't let him on the connection flight to Manila unless he bought a ticket out of the Philippines before take off. I think only once have I been asked at immigration for my ticket out of their country.[/QUOTE]
Both Cathay Pacific and Cebu Pacific are very strict about return tickets. Couple of times they printed a copy for me because they said immigration will ask for it. Immigration never asked me for the copy of the return ticket. It is mostly the airlines who are enforcing it.
I do not believe they will let you board the flight on one way ticket.

[QUOTE=Turdycurdyone]Has anyone landing in Manila had any experiences with coming with a one way ticket from USA with onward ticket (within 21 days) to Malaysia or similar?

Any problems with this? Do you have to have a roundtrip ticket to the second country or will one way do? Prices for even throw away tickets are going up.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Airlines will generally refuse to transport foreign travelers on international routes from one country to another because they don’t want to be responsible for you and possibly lose money. If a visitor gets stranded and cannot purchase a ticket to leave any foreign country, the airline that took you there on a one-way ticket would be responsible for returning you to your original point.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Airlines will generally refuse to transport foreign travelers on international routes from one country to another because they don’t want to be responsible for you and possibly lose money. If a visitor gets stranded and cannot purchase a ticket to leave any foreign country, the airline that took you there on a one-way ticket would be responsible for returning you to your original point.[/QUOTE]Yep, you are a right. The passenger with a refused entry stamped has to be flown back by the carrier that got him or her to the port of entry. Regardless of the price, that really affects carriers when. Like in Singapore, about 20 passengers get refused entry on arrival. (though for different reasons other than having a return) but the carrier has to ship them back to Point of origin or endore the ticket to another carrier and loose the money. And for those who cry saying the carrier has no right to check for valid visa- same story goes as above. For countriest that need prior visa, if somebody arrives minus the visa, the carrier has to fly the guy back.

As mentioned, it is the airlines that ask for a return ticket. It is now being flagged for many airlines to ask on any trip to MNL.

If you are not asked, your return trip is probably on the same itinerary. If my trip is terminating in MNL on the given itinerary, I am always asked for either a ticket or proof of residency.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Airlines will generally refuse to transport foreign travelers on international routes from one country to another because they don’t want to be responsible for you and possibly lose money. If a visitor gets stranded and cannot purchase a ticket to leave any foreign country, the airline that took you there on a one-way ticket would be responsible for returning you to your original point.[/QUOTE]

Run Mann has got it right.
Those guys who say they have never been asked for their onward journey ticket at checking in are just lucky as it is required of airlines. You are running a risk of it costing you money especially if you have to scramble around to buy a ticket out before you can be checked in. You are obliged to have one if asked for it. I am always asked for it (5 times each year) when I catch a flight from anywhere back to the Phils and I just show them my Permanent Visa ICR card h of course allows me to travel without a ticket.
I would suggest to get an open return ticket when you book.

Went to Amazonia last night and was surprised at the number of people there. I was mobbed by girl after girl asking to go with me but none really caught my eye. One latched on to me and did not want to leave so I finally paid my bill and went to fka LA Cafe. Headed upstairs to hear the band. At around 11PM I would say about 25% Asian (not that I have a problem with that a lot of my friends are Asian) and the rest was a mix of different nationalities. A rather cute girl was sitting at the table next to me and we started to chat. I innoncently told her it was only my second time to LA Cafe and she quickly explained to me how things work. Told me a lot of girls use drugs and to be careful (of course she didn't) and that the normal bar fine was 2, 500 for short time and 3, 000 for long time (yeah right, in her dreams). I let her chat to me for a little while more then headed back to Amazonia. Quickly found a girl I liked (don't they all look good after 8 or 10 beers) and was willing to do short time for 1, 500. Was tired so didn't bargain and off we went to my hotel. Average service only.

Today trolled around Robinson's but didn't see anybody worth talking to. The prior evening at around 7:00PM I was approached by no less than 5 girls but at 4:00 no one approached me. Walked around the mall then headed to fka LA Cafe for a beer. Wasn't going to take anybody but two girls approached and needed money and would go short time for 1, 000 each. A friend also came up while we were talking and next thing I know it was 2,500 for all three for short time. Not real stunners but good enough looking and I usually find that if you step down slightly and not go for the top notch lookers you get better service. I was a little worried about walking into my hotel at City Garden with 3 girls but they said no worries they had IDs so off we went. At the hotel no one even gave us a second look. Once in the hotel I remembered I had only one condom left. Sex was one of the best I had with them all taking turns at BBBJ then one rode me while one sat on my face and one at the girl I was fucking from behind. Really great experience and they had no problems with me taking my time fucking. Ended up giving them 3,000 pesos which for all three I felt was a bargain. Got their cell number and they are going to meet me tommorrow afternoon. I need to make sure to buy some more condoms as they all want to fuck. Only in the Philippines can you get three college aged girls to do just about anything for way less than USD100.

[QUOTE=Asia Pacific]Wasn't going to take anybody but two girls approached and needed money and would go short time for 1, 000 each. A friend also came up while we were talking and next thing I know it was 2,500 for all three for short time. Really great experience and they had no problems with me taking my time fucking. Ended up giving them 3,000 pesos which for all three I felt was a bargain. Got their cell number and they are going to meet me tommorrow afternoon. I need to make sure to buy some more condoms as they all want to fuck. Only in the Philippines can you get three college aged girls to do just about anything for way less than USD100.[/QUOTE]Excellent! You can possibly beat with a freeb, but who cares? Love dem pinay.

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I am flying one-way from MNL > DMG (Dumaguete) > CEB > MNL. Hope I don't get hassled..............[/QUOTE]

We are talking about tickets out of the country here D Cups.

Your internal itinerary is nobody's business, and for sure you will never be hassled about that.

I hope you have a ticket OUT of the Philippines after your visit otherwise you are taking a risk of them not checking you in before you leave USA.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt]We are talking about tickets out of the country here D Cups.

Your internal itinerary is nobody's business, and for sure you will never be hassled about that.

I hope you have a ticket OUT of the Philippines after your visit otherwise you are taking a risk of them not checking you in before you leave USA.[/QUOTE]Yes RK, the ticket is about OUT OF PHILIPPINES, domestic is none of their business.

With only a few days left decided to make the most of it. For breakfast headed over to Robinson's to get something to eat. I cute girl by the Wendy's smiled and after talking we were off to the hotel for round one. I really like City Garden as they don't blink an eye when you bring a girl, but when the girl leaves they call to make sure everything is ok. Total damage was only 1, 000 pesos.

After that it was off to the small convienence store by the hotel. I had been talking to the girl there for the past couple of days (with nothing planned except being nice). While there she told me what time she would be getting off work and would I like to go out with her. Not a stunner but a nice girl so figured worst case would have a date later on.

After a short rest it was back to Robinsons. Walked around for awhile and didn't see anything. Disappointed, went back to the room where shortly thereafter there was a knock on the door. The three college girls from the night before had decided to pop in and say Hi. I was surprised they could just walk into the hotel without anyone saying anything but it's not the hotel's job to monitor the girls coming and going and besides, I was horny and they had come all the way from Cavite. One of the girls apparently really liked me and I think the plan was for the two girls to only suck me while she would fuck. But I had a new box of condoms and other plans in mind. The only thing that bothered me was as I fucked each of them I had to change the condom. I could only manage one shot and after finished told them I had to meet a friend. They only wanted 300 pesos to get back home but gave them 1, 000 peso each.

Took a nap and then it was off to Manila Bay Cafe where I sat downstairs. It was really crowded although only 6PM and was thinking of only having a beer as I was kind of tired but a older girl (If 27 is old) sat down and we had a great conversation. Apparently, some Korean guy wanted to go with her but she wanted 1, 600 and he would only pay 1, 500. I mean WTF, only 100 peso difference. Said I would splurge and pay 1, 600 but was really looking for a massage and BJ. No problem and back at the hotel had a great massage and BBBJ. Ate her pussy and she came like a wildwoman then literally flipped me over and was going to jump on. Had to stop her to get the condom and she ended up being a great fuck. We traded numbers as she wanted to meet me the next day. After giving her my number remembered the college girls were also planning to meet with me at the same time (whoops). Will have to figure that one out.

Picked up my girl from the convenience store and we had a nice meal and went to Cowboy Grill. They had some great music and really enjoyed her company. Unfortunately she said she could not be home too late as her Father would be mad. Said no problem and paid the bill. Outside hugs and kisses and I was ready to send her off but she said had some time still and wanted to leave cowboy grill to spend some time with me alone. Off to my hotel for another round. Luckily I had taken some cialis or there would have been no way to get it up. She ended up being super tight which helped and was kind of shy but more than willing which to me was a great turn on. She finally left at 1:00.

Now I still hadn't gotten my massage which is what I wanted in the first place so off to Manila Bay Cafe. Had some good looking ones upstairs but I was tired to hunt and no one approached. At 2:30 decided to go home and right outside a girl approached me that had briefly spoke to me at Amazonia the other night. Wanted to know if I wanted a massage etc. Asked the price and she said up to you. Jokingly told her 50 peso and she looked me in the eye and said I really don't care but want to spend the night. So, off to my hotel again where I had a nice massage. I would love to say I fucked again but there was no way. So we cuddled and hugged after the massage and fell asleep. This morning when we woke up we fucked and I gave her 1, 500. I think I could have given her 500 and she would had been happy but she gave good service and I liked the fact she didn't even ask for anything.

So today is another day and I have to figure out what to do between the college girls and the other girl. I guess I could have worse problems.

I figured out I'll check the new LA Cafe, Manila Bay Cafe or what.

Before I got into the place, a girl standing at the eatery outside got my attention. She was cute and since I didn't expect to find miracles on that night, I booked her right away, long time, for 3,000. A bit expensive but she really was very cute, and turned out to be a nice company as well.

While she was waiting outside, I got into Manila Bay cafe to have a quick look around. The place was half empty, even though this was Saturday night at around midnight. The first room looked like business as usual, albeit with less people than before. The second room was empty. The fee to go upstairs was only 50 pesos and in fact was not enforced as I just entered without anybody stopping me. There were a few people there but really not many. I got back at 4am. Upstairs was completely empty and the band was playing full blast even though there wasn't a single soul to listen to them. Downstairs was rather slow too. Definitely not like in the olden times.

My girl also explained that the management was very strict. The girls can't get in if they are in sandals, or even in mini skirt of sexy dress!!! They can't just sit there but must consume an expensive (for them) drink and when they finish their drink must consume another one. She said that at some stage the management made the price to go upstairs 150 pesos instead of 100 and even kicked out a lot of girls, so the girls got angry and didn't go there anymore, which may explain in part why the place upstairs was empty and also why the management now dropped the price down to 50 pesos only. I don't know if they relaxed their other rules as well. As before it closed, girls below 20 can't get in. Even if they are more than 20 but look younger, they won't be allowed inside.

I then asked the girl to show me where she went when LA Cafe was closed and she brought me to a club called Socialista on Remedios street. Entrance is 100 pesos but inside they didn't seem to have any of the (rather stupid) rules of LA/Manila Bay Cafe and the quality of girls was definitely higher, ranging from 7 to 8, whereas for quite a while now in LA Cafe, even before it closed, I would rate an average of 5 to 6 with the occasional 7. However, Socialiasta is rather small, I don't think it can take over from LA/Manila Bay cafe. It is also a loud disco and dark on the sides, though most of the girls were on the bar that is on the dance floor so very visible. That street, Remedios street, is also very alive with quantities of tables set on the street itself, with cheap food and drink, so I am sure you can pick up loads of girls just straight from the the street traffic.

In conclusion, yes, LA Cafe is basically re-opened but it does not change things that much as the quality of girls is not getting better, and with their strict rules like no sexy dress and other silly ideas, is not on the way to improve from the old setup or to pick up pace again. But anyway, it still is a good thing that it's open for business again and, in spite of all the indrances, it still has the potential to host the occasional jewel.

hope i'm not repeating a previous item.

when i was in manila a few weeks ago, and lac was closed, i was sitting in g-point. when i asked where all the lac girls had gone, nobody seemed to know. it seemed like a conspiracy, nobody would say where they went to. a few times when i was walking by gp or walking in, the occasional girl would approach me outside, and ask if she could come in with me (no, thanks). one night a girl in gp told me that when lac closed, the rumor was that there were **** girls in lac. a bunch of lac gals naturally turned to g-point and other local bars to ply the trade. the owner of g-point threw them out one night, fearing they would be busted for possibly having **** girls inside (like lac). from that point forward, there was compiled a list of gp regulars that were allowed inside. i went into gp every afternoon or evening for a bite to eat. was there from tuesday thru a tuesday. tues-thursday it was dead, even at midnight, about 8 girls, all in the 4-7 looks range. fri/sat was more talent, about 20 ladies, much better looking on the top end, 4-9 range. by sunday/mon/tues evenings, back to about the original 8.

on my first night at gp, there was an older girl, 30, spinner, she seemed out of place. a bit loud/drunk/too-smiley. walks around with her own two-piece pool stick. can be a pain when she doesnt want to leave you alone. she talked me into a game of pool. for a girl with her own stick, she was terrible. several games later, i quit the pool and drank. had to tell her i was not interested in a girl tonight (at least none in gp). she asked if i wanted her to call one of her friends to spend the night with me. no, thanks. she asked if she could come to my hotel. no, thanks. i figured that would be enough to get rid of her. nope. said she'd come to my room for no money. no, thanks, leave me alone. she disappeared for about 5 minutes, and came back, all smiles. it was about midnight, i was too tired to hit other places looking for poon. i left and she caught up to me half a block up mabini, just walking along with me with her pool stick. as we passed the cowboy, she tried to get me to veer down that street to her place. no, thanks. must admit, she had some panache to just follow me down mabini. i told her i had no money for her. she said its fine, but can i come to your room? jeez. sure, but no money. when we got to my room she showered and came to bed like a good girl. we went right to sleep. when woke in the morning, she had the tv on, volume low. she proceeded to start some fun, and we played just a bit, but i had a chatmate coming over for lunch. so we exhanged numbers and i booted her, as promised, no money.

the chatmate showed (another story of interest later) and we had a wonderful afternoon session. later, about 11pm, i go back to gp, and there she is again, pool stick in hand. nobody else in the place was worth taking, so i let her come to my room again. she would spend 5 nights in my room, almost no sex. one morning i took her shopping in the mall and bought her about 900 pesos worth of stuff for her place (like a small oscilating fan). other than the free hotel breakfast and that mall shot, she was just using me for the aircon room. she offered banging nightly when we got to the room. only did her once, and she offered all holes available. mostly i was spanked from my afternoon sessions with chatmates and former flames. several times offered up her friends for an afternoon session. she actually showed me her place one morning, lives in the alley behind cowboy grill. what a dive, its the size of a postage stamp. anyone know this gal? she's cute, and a bit kooky in the head when you talk to her. will post her pic soon.

another gp girl told me one night to also try amazonia and southern cross bars for lac girls. i never thought of sc as a bargirl place, but upon walking in at 1am there were 6 working girls in the place (nearly asleep). never seen a girl in there before that was not there with her bf (besides the waitress). only one other customer besides me at that time. i was suddenly popular. two of the girls offered lt with lesbian. two others offered lt together for p1000 total (both from cavite and they said they were desperate; said they would stay the next day as long as i wanted if i fed them and paid their bus fare back to cavite). took a different girl for st and gave her 1000 (sweet, talkative, energetic, and seemed to know a lot about photography and posing). will post pics soon.