[QUOTE=Marxh;2749014]I got quoted for 1 hour 600 cop [/QUOTE]That's less than two dollars US so I think maybe you are missing several zeros. Probably three, in which case those prices are extremely high.
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[QUOTE=Marxh;2749014]I got quoted for 1 hour 600 cop [/QUOTE]That's less than two dollars US so I think maybe you are missing several zeros. Probably three, in which case those prices are extremely high.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2748934]From my perspective, it is more about cost and time. If El Centro is my main playground, I will chat with the girl but I won't negotiate too much except cost. I can fuck 7 girls in El Centro for the cost of getting an outcall to my place. I can fuck at least 20 girls in El Centro for what I paid for one in Sao Paulo. I will try my luck in the room and keep the base cost low in El Centro. That is what you observe GB is doing thus far so we are not that different. The reason I won't do the same with outcall simply because the cost is high. In Sao Paulo, I won't even take the girl is she does not DFK when negotiating. The reason is the same, cost is very high. LOL[/QUOTE]So Brazil is way more expensive than Colombia?
You build up a list of contacts and tell them approximately when you will be there. You don't bring up money until you are there and ready for them. Bringing up money before is telling them you
have no experience in this and are easy prey. Can't blame them for quoting you a high price. Why not? You are basically telling them you have no idea what you are doing. Read the prior posts here that will help you.
Telling them that you can not talk money because it is illegal in the USA is ridiculous. These girls aren't going to believe or care. Just another example you don't know what you are doing
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2749087]I would personally say from my experience that a few weeks is not too far out to start communicating with the chicas. It is too far out to start negotiations though, you can mention money so they know what you are looking for but stall negotiating prices until just before you go or even when you arrive and are setting up an actual cita (appointment) tell them some BS that since I am currently in the USA that I cannot talk business becuase its not legal here. Many of these chicas are going to ghost you anyway - dont take it personally they fly by the seat of their pants and are not good with appointments. Best to wait until you are ready to nail down an appointment then negotiate.
Besides I would talk to a hundred chicas in that time frame you have before you go down there. There are thousands of them literally - pros and what I call semi pros. When I started Cupid had real time IM chat windows and I would have to juggle between the chicas I was talking to in real time. But I started communicating early before my first trip because it can take that long to find chicas that you really like. I was clueless when I started so communicating with a lot of chicas was educational. I like GFE and the ones I've gotten the best GFE from are the chicas I spent time communicating with before hand - I want to qualify this by saying that I know my boundaries - but if they blow you off becuase you are not ready to negotiate they may be too business like to offer up good GFE
When you get your PM set up send me a message and I will give you more tips and some leads.[/QUOTE]
Got my PM priveleges but your inbox is full.
Finally got my sub. Your inbox is full Mojo Bandit.
All the tips have been great.
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2749087]I would personally say from my experience that a few weeks is not too far out to start communicating with the chicas. It is too far out to start negotiations though, you can mention money so they know what you are looking for but stall negotiating prices until just before you go or even when you arrive and are setting up an actual cita (appointment) tell them some BS that since I am currently in the USA that I cannot talk business becuase its not legal here. Many of these chicas are going to ghost you anyway - dont take it personally they fly by the seat of their pants and are not good with appointments. Best to wait until you are ready to nail down an appointment then negotiate. ...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2749136]I would say stay offline and wait until you get there and go to in-person places like casas. After paying those chicks 40 K or whatever, you will no longer even entertain a chick saying 600 K no matter how hot you think she is. Get to know the place before blindly committing to online shit.[/QUOTE]Exactly, no need for that online, prearranged stuff down in MDE. The females are waiting for you, no reason to already commit to something online, unless of course you don't have a mouth peice for face to face interaction.
I arrived in Medellin Saturday night and went to my place in Laureles. I checked with the host and it is girl friendly as long as there are no parties. I'll PM the link to any senior member who has contributed to the forum after I leave. I was somewhat tired but wanted to get things started off right and so I ordered some local cialis via Rappi while messaging some facebook and mileroticos girls. I considered La Isla but it is a bit far and I didn't want to blow a ton of money when I was tired from my flight. Trying to setup some facebook girls for tomorrow so we'll see how that goes. Anyways, the first girl that seemed ok was this one: [URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/soy-tu-pasion-tu-fantasia-tengo-20-anos-deseosa-de-aprender-tus-fetiches/23642172/[/URL] and I got her location. I waited for my Rappi to arrive, took my cialis and uber'd the the place. It appears to be right next to Fantasias Spa. The address is Carrera 74#49-107. I didn't see it on the map but maybe it can be added. I get buzzed up and my girl shows me in. It is a nice place. The room I was in had a circular bed, a massage table, a regular bed, a sofa, and a bathroom. My biggest problem was when I took a shower the water was only cold. The girl is the same as the pictures. She isn't a model or anything but at least she provides honest pictures. The session was decent, the girl didn't do OWO or give kisses but did give peaks. We did a couple of positions. The girls attitude was a bit cold when I started but in the end she warmed up a bit and we talked after I came. Apparently 11 girls work at the location and it is open until midnight (at least on Saturday). I had an appointment but she said you don't need one. Overall I was happy with the session. Paid the girl 90 K at the beginning and gave her another 20 K tip at the end for good service (Please don't yell at me too much for this). She seemed a bit disappointed and I said you would get more for OWO, DFK or a massage to which she happily responded "next time". Since it is rather close to me, I may go again, potentially with another girl. May also look to go to Energy sometime later since I am interested in their threesome for only 250 k.
[QUOTE=ChrisH;2749269]Exactly, no need for that online, prearranged stuff down in MDE. The females are waiting for you, no reason to already commit to something online, unless of course you don't have a mouth peice for face to face interaction.[/QUOTE]There's a need for the online prearranged stuff in Medellin. If there wasn't a need there wouldn't be so much of it.
Everyone has their own idea of the perfect experience. Online options work better for some.
Shout out to Jjbee62 again!
I totally get it and I agree with you for everything regarding webcam. Not living in Colombia and only visiting once a year for a week to 10 days certainly puts one behind the 8 ball.
To build on your story about developing a bond. In university on the weekends I would go to strip club s before hitting the bars and clubs. This was late 90's early 2000's when strip clubs were still popular. After being a regular I met a guy who was a private driver for the girls. Long before Uber. Small talk happened one night and he was in need of help and asked If I could drive a girl. I was like wow a stripper, drive her Sure. Was strictly professional. Then he gained my trust and drove a few strippers and massage parlour girls. It wa perfect. Leave my club at 2 am and then on the way home pick pick up a few strippers and drive them. You became " cool" with them sort of speak. You were not a customer anymore, and you gained their trust. I met their husbands, boyfriends got their real Names LOL. No longer was she sky, she is Lisa. Stuff like that. They would sit with you when it's slow, even buy a round as well.
For example, any of us can go and hang out at a coffee shop outside those gyms or even join a gym like smart fit etc. You will see the smoke shows come out. Prime time early morning and evening. These girls have them onky fans accounts, are maybe webcam models or have a "sponsor". Even if you are into fitness culture you still have a steep hill to climb to get them too, same with webcam. What you did takes time. Develop repoire etc. Patience. I am certain I can shore a few models as I did what you did. Just I need to be in colo, but for a much longer time, not 10 days a year.
Competing with big spenders can do the trick, but not many of us want to tip $5000 to some virtual chick. F that! Yet guys do that. She's probably banging some dude who can't rub two Pennies together. Or has some lesbian lover who looks like a teenage boy. Then you ask yourself. WTF! Go back to the drawing board, and read everything jibee62 says and even hopefully what I said here.
[QUOTE=Gabacho;2749207]So Brazil is way more expensive than Colombia?[/QUOTE]Sao Paulo is more developed and it has more expensive / high end places, restaurants, cafes, and clubs. Sao Paulo metro costs about 0. 8 USD per ride. If Sao Paulo metro is fully loaded model, then Medellin's metro is the base model. The equivalent of expensive / high end places do not really exist in Medellin. The cover alone is 80 USD. There are cheap options and it starts at 10 minutes but still more expensive than El Centro.
The difference at service level is you get what you expect for what you pay in Sao Paulo. Medellin is the opposite, the higher price places have the most limited services.
[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2749275].....Anyways, the first girl that seemed ok was this one: [URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/soy-tu-pasion-tu-fantasia-tengo-20-anos-deseosa-de-aprender-tus-fetiches/23642172/[/URL] and I got her location......[/QUOTE]Were the boobies natural?
Now that this place is "on the map" I am very interested in hearing how guys rate the experience compared to its more famous next door neighbor Energy. Ten years ago Energy stood out because its facilities were nicely appointed compared to other casas. And especially compared to Centro casas. I was last there maybe six months ago with some out of town friends with weekend warrior tendencies. It is starting to look a little run down in the reception areas. I have not been in one of their rooms in several years but my second hand information is they are still spacious and clean. While I was cooling my heels downstairs waiting for my shot caller friends it dawned on me that the volume of guys coming and going (including a group who were allowed to drive into the downstairs garage before getting out of their car) at the atmosphere reminded me of New Life. I got to see the lineup. It also reminded me of New Life.
OK back to the next door neighbor. Obviously it is at a price point that is noticeably below Energy's. The rooms I've seen there are larger versions of what you find in Zandaly and Amigas Sexxy and a step above Aiffe and Zaza. A few of the girls there are fairly popular on the Colombian review sites. I've written in passing about the place a week or two ago. As always I'm interested in seeing what others think.
[QUOTE=DandyMan51;2749275]I arrived in Medellin Saturday night and went to my place in Laureles. I checked with the host and it is girl friendly as long as there are no parties. I'll PM the link to any senior member who has contributed to the forum after I leave. I was somewhat tired but wanted to get things started off right and so I ordered some local cialis via Rappi while messaging some facebook and mileroticos girls. I considered La Isla but it is a bit far and I didn't want to blow a ton of money when I was tired from my flight. Trying to setup some facebook girls for tomorrow so we'll see how that goes. Anyways, the first girl that seemed ok was this one: [URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/soy-tu-pasion-tu-fantasia-tengo-20-anos-deseosa-de-aprender-tus-fetiches/23642172/[/URL] and I got her location. I waited for my Rappi to arrive, took my cialis and uber'd the the place. It appears to be right next to Fantasias Spa. The address is Carrera 74#49-107. I didn't see it on the map but maybe it can be added. I get buzzed up and my girl shows me in. It is a nice place. The room I was in had a circular bed, a massage table, a regular bed, a sofa, and a bathroom. My biggest problem was when I took a shower the water was only cold. The girl is the same as the pictures. She isn't a model or anything but at least she provides honest pictures. The session was decent, the girl didn't do OWO or give kisses but did give peaks. We did a couple of positions. The girls attitude was a bit cold when I started but in the end she warmed up a bit and we talked after I came. Apparently 11 girls work at the location and it is open until midnight (at least on Saturday). I had an appointment but she said you don't need one. Overall I was happy with the session. Paid the girl 90 K at the beginning and gave her another 20 K tip at the end for good service (Please don't yell at me too much for this). She seemed a bit disappointed and I said you would get more for OWO, DFK or a massage to which she happily responded "next time". Since it is rather close to me, I may go again, potentially with another girl. May also look to go to Energy sometime later since I am interested in their threesome for only 250 k.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2749151]He does have a point. "Quality girl" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone. The OP might end up paying 600 k for a girl who he will believe was grossly overpriced, after the date. Another guy might pay 40 k for a girl who outperforms the 600 k girl in every way.[/QUOTE]Quality refers to the looks, not performance. Fashion model, fitness model, beauty pageant contestants, etc. Smoking hot women making everyone's heads turn. You won't find them in El Centro, or Lleras, or cheap casas.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2749381]Quality refers to the looks, not performance. Fashion model, fitness model, beauty pageant contestants, etc. .[/QUOTE]Said it plenty of times now. That; s what quality means to YOU. Its not what it means to me, nor countless others. Fitness model might be ok, but fashion model? Yuk. Beauty contestants? Yuk, but depends which country.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2749381]Smoking hot women making everyone's heads turn. You won't find them in El Centro, or Lleras, or cheap casas.[/QUOTE]Plenty of girls in Centro make my head turn.
Ultimately, what I am saying is quality is subjective. So it's redundant to ask where one can find quality. Am sure he simply means where can he pay a lot of money for a girl in Colombia. Paying a lot of money in itself seems to validate a purchase for many buyers.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2749394]
Plenty of girls in Centro make my head turn.
Ultimately, what I am saying is quality is subjective. So it's redundant to ask where one can find quality. Am sure he simply means where can he pay a lot of money for a girl in Colombia. Paying a lot of money in itself seems to validate a purchase for many buyers.[/QUOTE]I don't see girls that would make my head turn in El Centro. Cute at best, but not quality. You probably have lower standards, which is not necessarily a bad thing, because you have more options to work with.
Paying more can definitely get you a better looking girl, but price and performance do not correlate.