Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[QUOTE=Paolo99;3039602]I think you misunderstood my comment about time. It does not take time to negotiate.

But it takes time to have to find a new girl because you couldn't agree on the price with the first one.

Your stories are about girls accepting to lower their rate to yours, but many people come across the opposite, when the girl refuses to lower her rate to the customer's proposed initial rate.

Surely you've come across these kind of situations too.[/QUOTE]Neither am I saying she must meet my price or I am not getting laid. I am just saying why not try to get the best price possible. The other day me and my brother were leaving the bazaar and he saw a kid's electronic drum. He asked the guy how much and he said 1000 baht. I told my brother that means it is 500 baht on Lazada. I quickly pulled it up and showed my brother. Had he really wanted it we could have negotiated with the guy and I would have even said man that shit is 500 on Lazada and showed him the picture. That is not to say that I would expect to buy it from him for 500, but I could have definitely gotten it from him for no more than 700 being armed with the knowledge of how much he got it for and where it came from.

(All that shit comes from the same place, China. When I am in the States I may see something on Amazon that I need. I will then search Lazada and cross check the price if they have the same item. If they do, then 9 times out of 10 it is half the price on Lazada than it is on Amazon. If I do not need it immediately, then I will just wait until I get to Thailand and buy it on Lazada. A lot of Thai people shop on Shopee because they say it is even cheaper than Lazada, but because my Google Play Store is from America, it does not allow me to download that app.).

A lot of times when I am negotiating with people I will lie and say that person down the street had them for 50 baht, why are you chaging 80 baht? Even not having actual knowledge I can bluff them that way to see if they come down on the price. I am in no way saying I would not buy the thing if he does not go to 50 baht. Matter of fact, that is what I did with the girl on Soi 6. When she said 2000, I pointed to another random bar and said the chick over there told me 1000. If we meet somewhere in between I would be fine with that. I am just saying if someone told me those same drums are actually 500 baht, why would I not try to get the guy who has them for 1000 baht to sell them to me for less?

Another thing I will do is after I have confirmed a deal with someone and it comes time to pay, I will say a lower price. For instance, I had been buying cologne from a lady at the bazaar for 400 baht. One day I walked in to buy a bottle. After I took the time to pick out what I wanted, I said 300 baht right? She said yes. I was kicking myself in the ass. All the times I was paying this lady 400 baht when she would have accepted 300 baht.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3039564]What is the point of posting about a hooker's boyfriend on a mongering forum? Are you out to fuck him too? What is the point in self-snitching about human trafficking hookers from one country to another on a mongering forum? What is the point in saying where you ate in a mongering forum? What is the point in posting what airline or taxi you took on a mongering forum?

[B]Please inform us of the minimum amount we paid for pussy in order to be eligible to write a report about the encounter Mr Report Guru.[/B]

Did you also inform other posters going to downtown Medellin, Santa Fe in Bogota, Calle 18 in Guayaquil, Vila Mimosa in Rio, Coahuila in Tijuana that they should not be writing reports on the extraordinarily cheap pussy they got there?[/QUOTE]No problem posting reports on cheap pussy in cheap places.

The problem is constantly posting about pussy at below market rates.

I do post about Pattaya bargirls and their Thai boyfriends so guys that fall in love with a bargirl have some inkling about what happens to the money they send to their "girlfriend ".

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3039670]It is blissfully easy to get free BBFSCIP virtually anywhere and everywhere on earth, even down the street from where we live in our own home country. No need to travel to another country for it.[/QUOTE]I don't know about "blissfully easy", LOL, but I'll accept your statement as it applies to sexual interactions in general. In life there is a lid for every pot!

But here we are talking about the buying and selling of sex, which is a special category. With P4 P. Sex is a commodity that is bought and sold, like food. Mongers invest a lot of time, effort, money and miles racked up to obtain that which is NOT "blissfully easy" to get down the street. It is a multi-billion dollar international industry.

Like with food, not everybody likes the same stuff. Some are happy with hamburger and fries, and others meticulously watch what they eat! They are willing to pay a premium for for a clean table, a pretty server. They'll ignore the local cheap plonk and order outrageously expensive Premium Labelled wines and spirits, even tho they'll foul it up with the local water and ice, and in truth can't actually tell the difference if asked!

[QUOTE]As a P4 P endeavor, add the sweetener that such a lady really needs or wants money right here and now and you're good to go for a 100% success rate in getting BBFSCIP for as little as 500 baht or equivalent.[/QUOTE]I'll raise that, and report it's not that unusual to be offered a quickie BJ in the toilet of a dive bar as a free sample. Just marketing, like the little trays of goodies they give out in the supermarkets.

If you play your cards right and take a little time, you can get a free meal out that too! LOL.

[QUOTE]However, I wouldn't count on getting much if any free or 500 baht BBFSCIP with hot, slim, young girls capable of pulling in 3,000 baht for Covered FS anywhere in Thailand unless the timing just happens to be perfect, such as maybe she is so drunk and sleepy she is barely aware of what is happening anyway.[/QUOTE]Or she's after your wallet.

But my issue with the OP is credibility. He's a one man "expert" on prices in all the sex dens of the world, (18,000 posts) and at the same time claims to be fucking the elite of the elite for free.

It was his recent bragging post in the DR SD Forum that prompted my response.

[I]It is like when I was at the market in Ghana. 2 American guys came through looking to buy drums. The guy told them $100. They did not try to haggle or anything. They were happy and asked if the guy could engrave their sons' names on them. The guy said sure. Those guys went home happy probably saying what a great deal they got. Meanwhile I had bought my drum from the same place for $20 and a case for it for $5.[/I]

A slight change from his "drum story" poster here! LOL.

But at least you would have thought our international "expert" advice giver might have given a heads up to our American brother mongers!

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3039751]No problem posting reports on cheap pussy in cheap places. The problem is constantly posting about pussy at below market rates.[/QUOTE]So there again, what is the limit? A person can only post about pussy at below market rates how many times during what time frame? And while you are at it, where do these market rates come from? Or have you made the decision for all that this supposed market rate is considered the market rate because it is what you choose to pay?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3039834]So there again, what is the limit? A person can only post about pussy at below market rates how many times during what time frame? And while you are at it, where do these market rates come from? Or have you made the decision for all that this supposed market rate is considered the market rate because it is what you choose to pay?[/QUOTE]It's pretty clear you are motivated to post about pussy at below average prices. Maybe you are hoping you can push the market rate down by "educating" people here about what they *should* pay.

Carry on.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3039936]It's pretty clear you are motivated to post about pussy at below average prices. Maybe you are hoping you can push the market rate down by "educating" people here about what they *should* pay..[/QUOTE]We got Captain Save a Hoes, and Captain Save the Market.

A complete waste of time, butt hurt folks who lost their dream date to a guy that offered her a little more money, because he didn't want sit with a Cuba Libra all night waiting for her to come back to the bar with a going out of business deal.

Mongers are no more virtuous than the hoes we fuck, at the time.

When your dick says lets go, you don't start worrying about how your deal is going to affect "the market" LOL.

At least if you are normal!

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3039936]It's pretty clear you are motivated to post about pussy at below average prices. Maybe you are hoping you can push the market rate down by "educating" people here about what they *should* pay.

Carry on.[/QUOTE]What is pretty clear is that you choose to answer no questions about "rules" that you posit, since you have in fact answered none. I really do not give a rat's ass what other people pay because I make my own deals. What you pay has no bearing on me getting chicks.

We are fucked, not me personaly, but the world as a whole.

Before taking a boat from chumpon to tao we got picked up by a van from our hotels, we were the first ones, then for another half hour, we drove to bunch of hotels picking up a lot of backpackers in their 20-30's.

Not even a single one of them said hallo, or kiss my ars or anything when they boarded the van. Not necessarily to me, because I'm used to being invisible lately, but to the rest of the assholes already in the van. Not a single one!

No manners, no parenting done to them. Their kids will be even worse, will not even know what being polite means.

It looks like I have seen my last times in SE Asia. I have been asked to explain why, so here goes.

These are my bonafides: I go back to the days of Soi 0, the old Thermae, the old Nanapong Forum, Woodstock in Nana, Stickman, and no BTS or MRT. I have lresided in, among other places, Talat Phlu, Ekkamai, Phra Kanong, Bang Pho and Spahan Taksin besides numerous monthly trips. Hell, I had 7 entries this year. I have never had any real problem anytime, anywhere and have traveled all over Thailand, including the South. I have also lived in Siem Reap, Cambodia, which was my last home base before I left a few weeks ago. I do not speak Thai. I do have western Hi so Thai friends. The following is solely my opinion and is based on experiences in Bangkok, as I do not do Pattaya since maybe 1998. I am dividing it into sections so that if the admins find any part unacceptable, they can just delete it.

Age: I'm 70 now and while the priapic engine of love still works, it requires recharge. I am not pussy driven anymore, more selective too. Further, as you get older, it gets harder and harder to get around town. That's one of the reasons I left Bangkok for Siem Reap, it was easier to get around to do day to day stuff. Going out in Bangkok can be exhausting enough for young folks, for me now, two nights in Sukhumvit requires 4 days of rest.

The Girls: Gone are the days when you could go to a BJ bar and have some cutie gobble you. Hell, on more than one occasion, I took a BJ girl home. Now, the BJ girls are the bottom of the barrel. All the girls are universally older, the days of hordes of Isaan 20 year old LBFMs are long gone, although gems can be found. Because of changing punter demographics, the girls are fatter, whiter and more surgeried.

The Thais: I will preface by saying that I love ordinary and regular Thai people. I have always been treated with respect and kindness, even by the authorities. The way they run the country is their business, its their country and they make the rules and none of the rules really change my life since I already gave up residence there in part because of their rules and other things which are set forth here. But I feel that Thailand is going to explode. The infighting among the power centers is obvious, illustrated every time an F16 bombs Cambodia. Nothing distracts more than a war, huh? And with an election, the shadow of coups, the infighting in the RTP, the problem of succession, the unrest in the South and the rise of Viet Nam I see Thailand as a powder keg ready to blow.

Changing Demographics: Up to maybe 20 years ago, Thailand was the playground for Westerners. Then the Japanese came, and the Thais opened establishments in kawaii style. Same with the Koreans. You began to see the girls start sculpting themselves and dressing to attract the Japanese and Korean punters, it made it easy to know who to approach in places like Thermae. But the overall vibe never changed. It was Asian exoticism mixed with Western influences. Everything was a bit organized, the Middle Easterners had a place to go (Grace), the Westerners / Japanese / Koreans did Thermae and Soi Nana. Then the Chinese waves and now the Indian waves brought massmarket poor folk. We all agree I'm sure that the Thais don't like poor Chinese or Indian poor people. There are literally hordes of them in Sukhumvit right now. I have never been approached by so many ILLEGAL street watch peddlers and street scammers. While in the old days the Chinese would go to Nana and Thermae, the Indians are either on the street in groups or in their own clubs, you rarely see them in proportions to their numbers. They have hygiene issues and are rude. For the sensitive here, this isn't because they are Indians, they are POOR Indians who probably never saw a flush toilet in their lives and are now in the big city, and based on the number of peddlers I saw, lots are illegal.

The Air: That's one of the reasons I left Bangkok. I've been listening to the same excuses for 20 years. It's worse at the best weather times of the year.

The Money: It's all about value. I have been smashing hardbodied Thai girls for 40 years. I look at my last visit. Almost 6500 B for a go go girl including BF, drinks, cab, that at 32 is $209. That gets me into FKK Sharks and an hour with a lissome Romanian blonde without the Bangkok hassle. And there are super young hotties in FKK sharks.

I left Bangkok for Cambodia before Covid because tof the air, the govt, getting around was getting harder, and the Chinese invasion. I've been back umpteem times since then. Now, with the country in flux, the mass Indian tourism, the rise of the baht, my age and my location change it doesn't make sense to return to Bangkok. I do miss Cambodia though.

Very little of your observations impact me. I live in a condo in Pratumnak, the ladies come to me, I rarely see Indians, and there are few Chinese in Pattaya now.

I venture two or three times a week to hit the bars, yesterday I was on Soi Chayapoon in the daytime, it was amazingly quiet. I was content to sit at Jie Jie bar for a while and watch customers passing by every 10 minutes. Soi Chaiyapoon is being overrun by ladyboys, no idea why.

As for sex, I schedule my sessions so that I don't get overworked, and make sure that the lady meets my requirements of that moment. I have known some ladies for many years, so I know who has a tight pussy, who can get me off no matter what, who does a great BJ, etc.

Today I have my regular massage lady come, about once a month I fuck her, she will do a prostate massage first, and then once I am about to cum, she will hop on my dick.

Tonight I have a "Dee" coming, a "Dee" goes with Tomboys. That means she doesn't like having a dick stuffed inside her. What she does like is riding a dick that is resting on my pubic bone (she prefers riding a pubic bone, but I can't accommodate her (my lower public bone has genitalia in the way). This lady has two Tomboys, she's horny a lot.

I can't complain.

Honestly, it's been so long I surprised myself that I still remember my password. I'm back fellas, and I don't know if this is a good or bad thing. But Thailand still weighs heavy on my mind, and on my balls. But at least I finally got the damn viagra from my doctor. Jesus harry potter christ on a stick, that took years. Not that I need to have it in Bangkok, since the stuff is so easy to find. But at least I got it, and who knows where I can use it wherever I go next.

It's been one hell of a last coupla years for me. I'm amazed life hasn't killed me yet. I swear this though, if I ever find myself in Thailand again, I'll report my exploits here once again, like I did all those many years ago. Good fucking god, I miss Thailand. I just miss fucking working women in general.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;3043925]Very little of your observations impact me. I live in a condo in Pratumnak, the ladies come to me, I rarely see Indians, and there are few Chinese in Pattaya now.

I venture two or three times a week to hit the bars, yesterday I was on Soi Chayapoon in the daytime, it was amazingly quiet. I was content to sit at Jie Jie bar for a while and watch customers passing by every 10 minutes. Soi Chaiyapoon is being overrun by ladyboys, no idea why.

As for sex, I schedule my sessions so that I don't get overworked, and make sure that the lady meets my requirements of that moment. I have known some ladies for many years, so I know who has a tight pussy, who can get me off no matter what, who does a great BJ, etc.

Today I have my regular massage lady come, about once a month I fuck her, she will do a prostate massage first, and then once I am about to cum, she will hop on my dick..[/QUOTE]Good for you, but that changes nothing about the observations I posted.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;3043798]It looks like I have seen my last times in SE Asia. I have been asked to explain why, so here goes. [/QUOTE]Nyezhov's essay on his recollections and opinions are 100% shared by yours truly. Without exception.

I'm 83 years old. I first landed on Thai soil on December 27, in 1970. I stayed at the Inter Continental Hotel. It was so new that you could still smell the fresh paint and there was no vegetation more than 2 feet high. It was located where Siam Center is located today and across where Siam Square is located.

Massages by farm fresh personnel across Rama I were $2 per hour. Anything more was negotiated with your masseuse.

Of course, Patpong was where most of the action was centered. It wasn't until years later that I learned about Nana Plaza, Cowboy and Thermae and Soi Zero.

In the 80's, bar fines from the go go joints were about 100 baht ($5 US) and you could get even the best looking dancers for 500 baht all night. Long time was understood. 90% GFE guaranteed. At 10 am In the restaurant of the Nana Hotel, most every table was occupied by mongers with their loves of their lives having breakfast.

Nana Plaza had bars opening by noon. Hog's Breath, Three Roses, etc. Small bars roughly where Spanky's is located now. One go go opened at 1 pm. Shift change at 6 pm when some of the dancers went down to the ground floor to a sister bar to work some more.

Soi Cowboy had 2 small bars from which to pull or get semi-full service in the open starting about 1 pm. Buckskin Joe's / Soi Zero had regular patronage as well as a few Tea Houses on Soi 1.

Thermae was same same but different. Lots of part-time office girls and food vendors. Not the heavily made up "fashionistas" you see today. 500 baht LT.

These were the days before digital photography and the widespread use of the internet. Photos inside of the bars was not just tolerated; it was almost welcome. Same in your hotel rooms. Of course a certain discretion as to where to process your film required. LOL I never got any curious stares from a photo shop that was located where Stuble Inn is located these days. I'm sure they'd seen it all before.

I'm attaching some photos of some of my dates; many worked at the same bars and I never sensed any of the negative passiveness between the damsels. In fact, some were good friends and were good about sharing me and my precious bodily fluids.

Sam.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;3044088]
I'm 83 years old. I first landed on Thai soil on December 27, in 1970. I stayed at the Inter Continental Hotel. It was so new that you could still smell the fresh paint and there was no vegetation more than 2 feet high. It was located where Siam Center is located today and across where Siam Square is located.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your well written perspective on Thailand from long ago. As a relative newcomer, I found it interesting.

Regarding your cute girl pictures, I find many now who are genetically just as attractive. The main difference is they are now covered with tattoos and a layer of fat.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3043942]Honestly, it's been so long I surprised myself that I still remember my password. I'm back fellas, and I don't know if this is a good or bad thing. [/QUOTE]Glad you remembered the password.

Looking forward to future reports.